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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this first day of March. Right folks, spring is on its way. I actually saw a little flower out in the churchyard. Spring is on its way and tonight we have there, he's our producer, he's the big guy on the board.

Kyle with a smile. Hey Pastor. Way out yonder. He's our Patriot pastor out there in the backwoods of Missouri. None other than Pastor Joe Larson.

Just a man saved by the blood of the lamb. Glad to be with you boss. And there in our studios of KPRZ 1210, our sister stationed out in San Diego.

We have none other, well, she's our San Diego contributor and correspondent, none other than Ms. Linda Stare. Hello everyone. And our special guest tonight, Dr. Nate Landis and Jeff Ross. Welcome to the program, fellas.

Thanks for having us. We're going to get right into our Bible study. We always do the first 30 minutes as a Bible study and you guys just jump right in. And Pastor Joe, do you remember the title of the message? Things They Say God Got Wrong.

Yeah. And what he's referring to, fellas, is that we had, we played a clip in a church of the Church of England. And they had these bishops, these were apostate bishops, and they were talking about the things that God got wrong.

And starting with Sarah Mahaley and Stephen Cantrell and then Justin Welby. And they were referring to when it come to sex and when it come to marriage, God got it wrong in the Bible. And they know that because they've been talking to the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit told them, yeah, you know, he he agreed with them and not with the word of God. And so Joe and I, we went over yesterday, 2 Corinthians chapter 11, verse 4, where it says, For they that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or you receive another spirit. Well, I kind of don't think that they were talking to the Holy Spirit. I think they were talking to another spirit.

What do you guys think? Some weird spirit out there. Yep. And, or if they come, if they have not received or have another gospel, which you have not accepted, you might well bear with them. And that word there, bara, anakamos, in the Greek means to push it, not carry it like we do, to bear a burden, but you push it away.

You push it away from you. Ah. That false teaching. And that's exactly what it is. And then if you go to verse 12, But what I do, that will I do, that I may cut off occasion from them, which desire occasion, that where in the glory that they may be found even as we. Well, that word occasion obviously means opportunity. Don't give the apostates the opportunity to associate themselves and say, you see, we're like Paul, we're like Peter.

No. And Paul saying don't give them that because they're not. And I've I've had situations in my over my 50 years in the ministry where that's exactly what has happened. I had these apostates try to associate themselves with me and using my name or saying how when they're when they're apostates and they're teaching doctrines of the doctrines of demons. And then here he goes on to say, for such a false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. No marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works. And I mentioned how some years ago I got a call while I was driving down Mentor Avenue telling me to turn on and switch my station, the radio. And I said, why should I do that? And they said, well, because Al Sharpton's on there.

And I said, why? Why would I want to listen to Al Sharpton? And the answer was, he's talking about you.

And so I turned over and I just had him could hear enough of what he was saying before he went off was he mentioned my name and called me a racist. OK. And believe me, Al Sharpton is Al Sharpton is not a Christian by any means. Al Sharpton preaches doctrines of demons. He he just recently came out and said that the Bible clearly approves of abortion. And so there you go.

So we're going to pick it up tonight where we left off. And that would be over in Romans Chapter 12, verses one and two. And you guys, you might be surprised to find out what according to these these bishops in England. And there was another one who we had mentioned how they interpreted these passages. So, Joe, go ahead and read verses one and two.

I beseech you, excuse me, I beseech you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service, and be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Well, it's an interesting thing, because that word that we use there. Where he says.

Reasonable, the same word we use for logical, logical. And here, when he was referring to, well, of course, it's logical, acceptable service unto God. And then here, be not. Now, listen. Now, see, I mean, I can understand this.

There's no stuttering going here. It's really clear and be not conformed, be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Well, here, it's an interesting thing, because, Dr. Landis, do you know what it means to be transformed according to these so-called bishops? And the renewing of your mind is that you're open to change and that as times change, we have to be willing to accept and be transformed into what is the world we're living in. In other words, to accept abortion. And of course, the first thing they said, we have to learn to accept and be able to embrace LGBTQ. That's the renewing of our mind. I don't think so.

What do you fellas think? Well, I would just say God isn't going to contradict his word with the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit was the author of the scriptures and the Holy Spirit used men to do that, but he also helps us interpret it afterwards. And so anytime we have an additional word from God or we hear something from a preacher or we feel something in our spirit, we always have to go back and check it against God's word because he won't contradict himself. So the word transformed is metanoia, which means that we're being renewed and we're being replanted in our minds and we have to plant the seed of God's word back into ourselves. So we're not coming up with our own ideas, but we're continuing to be remade and refashioned according to God's word. So that will either be conformed by God's word or conformed by the world.

And we have to choose which one that's going to be. And God is doing new things, but he's also not going to change his character or change the truth as he makes himself revealed to the next generation. So he's perhaps presenting the gospel in new ways, but the age old method and the truth and the mission and the message isn't going to change.

All right. And Rick Warren in his book, The Purpose Driven Church, I had a chapter in there where it said that you're not going to get unchurched Harry into the church by beating him over the head with the Bible. In order to get him into the church, you've got to kind of conform the church to the world. Now, here's the question. If unsaved Harry's already got that in the world, why would he want to come into the church, right?

Wouldn't make any sense, would it? So when it says be not conformed, it doesn't stutter. And see, this is one of the major teachings now today is to be conformed. And one of the other things that the woke generation is literally now accepting Satanism, the Church of Satan, as a part of their religion. And here we played a clip last night where Joe Biden and the Democratic Party said that they want to make Joe wants legislation, introduce legislation to make abortion a religious right, a religious right. And he's actually right when he says religion, but it's the religion is the religion of Satanism that he's referring to, because that's exactly what the Church of Satan wants to do. They're trying to push legislation to make that to get that through. And so nowadays, I don't see there's really no difference because the Church of Satan has literally become the unofficial official church of the Democratic Party.

It's there. Everything they embrace is sin. We talked about from Minnesota last night, Joe, that the United Church of what they call the United Church of Christ, I called them the United Church of the Antichrist, where they said if you don't believe in a woman's right to abortion, you're not a Christian. And it's about as far left field as you can go, isn't it?

I don't know. You know, I do know that I know that their headquarters right here in Cleveland. And I know if you could invent a new sin tonight, they'd probably have it in their articles of faith tomorrow, because on their platform.

Yeah, they would have it in their platform. OK. And so this is all of what we're talking about tonight is in complete opposition to the Urban Youth Collaborative. Right.

Am I right, fellas? And so this is why we have you here to tell us all about that Urban Youth Collaborative. Dr. Landis, how was UIC started? UIC started when I was a youth pastor at a local Presbyterian church downtown in San Diego, and I was starting to visit the school because some of the students that I knew in the youth group went there. There were about four of them, but the vast majority of the school had no connection to a church and there were about 3000 students there. And the graduation rate during the time UIC started at the school was about 60 percent. So almost like a coin toss.

You flip a coin in the air. Will this kid have a shot at a future or not? And I started to just get involved with the faith club on campus. I got invited as a guest speaker, so I would share about God's word and just started noticing how hungry public school kids were for the gospel. And it was sort of shocking to me because I would work with kids in church and they heard the gospel already and were either excited about it or didn't really care about it.

They sort of had their opinion already. But there's a whole generation growing up now that have never really heard the gospel. The biggest unreached people group, I think, in our country is public school kids. Yeah, because our parents don't go to church anymore. They're one or two generations removed from hearing about faith.

And so even basic things that we would take for granted are no longer really obvious. So you have to start from the very beginning and you can't assume any kind of biblical knowledge. But they were hungry for love, hungry for the truth, and they wanted something to give their lives for. And so I remember being in this faith club and just sharing weekly. And then I went to the football coach and I said, would you let me be the chaplain of the football team? I'll come to the games. We'll do a pregame meal. I'll do a Bible based pep talk before the game.

It'll be optional to come, but everybody can attend if they'd like to. And I'll never forget the coach looked back at me. He had 18 academically ineligible kids on the team that couldn't dress out because their grades were too low. And he looked back at me and said, sir, last year we were one in nine. Prayer couldn't hurt. Like, we can't fall from the floor.

It doesn't get any any worse. So why not? And so he accepted our offer to do these chapel services. And we found some tutors for the team. One of my other dear pastor friends found some military tutors for the football team, and we were able to help them academically and athletically.

They started making some strides. But the most exciting thing was during the faith club and during these chapel services, we were able to watch kids in front of their friends in a public school, raising their hands, giving their lives to Christ. And it really opened my eyes to the harvest fields that the Bible talks about. The harvest is plentiful.

The workers are few. And we're instructed to pray fervently to the Lord of the harvest to send more workers out into the harvest field. So Urban Youth Collaborative started by seeing the harvest and then realizing that these kids won't accidentally make it into church. I remember one day I was in front of this high school and the bell rang.

And I was sitting there in my Nissan exterior getting ready to pick up all these linemen for this pregame football chapel that we were going to do. It was voluntary to attend, but everybody came. Food was good. The fellowship was good.

The teaching was good. And as I'm watching all these faces, I just was convinced that they're not going to make it into my well-endowed Presbyterian Church castle on their own. If I open up the door, they're not going to just come. If we build it, they will not come. I think that's sort of the riddle of youth ministry, as we assume.

If we have a good program and we make it already, they're going to find their way there. But that's not how Jesus did it. He didn't wait for us to stumble into heaven, fortunately. He put on flesh and blood and became a person. God became man so that he could show us the way.

He came on our turf and learned our language and made his presence known in a way that was transformative. He even encouraged his disciples to go to the highways and the byways and teach there. So you're essentially bringing the church to the kids.

We're helping church go to where kids are. So just to land this story really fast, I was in front of the school and I'm watching all of these faces. And I have this moment of clarity where they're not going to come to us first. It was like a moment of honesty for me. And then the next word really wasn't from me. I think it was what I believe is the voice of God. It was God saying, well, who will go for us?

Who can we send? Because I'm watching all these faces and I couldn't drive because there were too many kids in front of me and there's a lot of paperwork in California if you hit kids on your way to start a campus ministry. So I had to just sit there and watch all of them walk by. And I started to cry. I raised my hand in my heart that night and I said, here I am, Lord, send me. And I had a good job in youth ministry with an MDiv.

Presbyterians do buildings and budgets well. And so I went home to my wife 18 months into our marriage. I said, honey, I've got a great idea. I'm going to quit my job and I'm going to go after the kids that not enough people are reaching. And this is how good I drafted Linda as a wife.

My wife looked right back at me and said, I think that sounds fantastic, sweetheart, and didn't hesitate. And so I gave our church six months notice so they could hire an intern who got the job. And we left the church well and then stepped out in ministry doing public schoolwork for several years. And then in 2009, we became a nonprofit. We got enough momentum with other churches for more people to do this. So that's how it started in front of a high school. And it was the beginning of, I believe, a movement that God wants to use to get more churches to kids.

We're bridge builders, so we want to get people from the church going over to school and then vice versa, people coming from school over to congregations so they can be disciples, so they can grow in Christ and find a community of faith. Right, right. Well, Jeff Ross, you're actually out there doing it every day right in my neck of the woods, which is Oceanside, California. And you gave up a beautiful home in Spokane, Washington.

And you essentially said the same thing to your beautiful wife, right? And you packed up with how much? From a 4,000 square foot home to a suitcase. Yeah, I was the director of Youth for Christ in Spokane, Washington, reaching close to about 700 at-risk gang kids a week in four different locations.

They were called City Life After School Drop-In Centers. And then the Lord, through some circumstances and meeting Nate here one day, said, Sell everything you own and move to Oceanside. And so we walked away from everything. And like Nate said, we lit our boats on fire.

There's no coming back to come here to rewrite history all throughout Oceanside and North County to win souls and make disciples and really focus in on what Jesus really called us to do at any cost. And so here we are. That's right.

The steps of faith that God called us to. Yes. Absolutely. He's been good for it.

He's taken care of us. So Nate, how is it legal that you can get into the schools? That's a great question. A lot of people assume the separation of church and state is this bulletproof wall that can't be penetrated. But it's about knowing the right keys and the right doors that work. A lot of pastors and principals sincerely believe that it's impossible.

And so it's encouraging. I want everyone to know tonight that there's hope that the separation of church and state is supposed to originally keep the state from meddling in the church. What's preached and what doctrine is disseminated and so on. But what's happened instead is it's become this real misunderstanding that there's no way to have a religious conversation in a public school. It's sort of like people assume kids drop their identity at the door and they stop being who they are when they walk on campus. But if a Christian group of kids, a single student or a team of students start a faith based club. And this is the same exact strategy that other religions and there's a Satanist group in several parts of our country now doing the same thing. So the legal structures out there, whoever wants it more is going to win.

And I want more believers to know this tonight. So I'm glad we can be on the show to talk about it. But if it's a student led meeting, that means kids are the ones carrying the water and setting it up. And if it's voluntary to attend, the teacher or the coach doesn't reward or punish someone for being involved. And then it's during non-instructional time, that's before school, after school or lunch, then you can have a meeting and talk about whatever content you want to talk about as a student, whatever is important to you. And then you can invite in guests. So Urban Youth Collaborative links up churches as guests of student leaders. So Jeff can be in Oceanside High School as a pastor invited by students and the students can lead the conversation. The guest speaks on behalf of the students and we can read the Bible, we can pray, we can invite kids to respond. We can let them know about church activities. And as long as it's in the limited open forum, that's the technical word for everything we just said with student led non-instructional time, voluntary attendance, and then everything can happen.

So that's the shocking part. And then the other thing that's really encouraging for me is there's a lot of other needs that every principal can agree with us on. Like they want their kids eating food that's healthy. They want kids having access to clothes. They want kids having the opportunity to develop their leadership gifts and participating in gang activity less, community service more. There's some of these things, graduating more, having a sense of purpose and destiny in their life and something to say yes to and not just something to say no to. So all of those things too are attractive.

But the core is the gospel message of transformation, metanoia that we talked about in that Bible study where I was heading in one direction and my mind got renewed and somebody discovered me and led me to Jesus. And now we've got students who can do that all over. So that's the legal structure. You can also do facility rental agreements. You can also do some other acts of service and community engagement that the school really needs.

A lot of schools are run down. So if we do beautification work or we can help with tutoring and so on and all that information is outlined in your book. It is.

It's available on your line at That's right. And the name of the book is a wonderful book.

It's called God Wants His Kids Back. And it tells everybody how to do it. A lot of options. It can be done in California. It can be done anywhere. That's right.

Yeah. These laws we're describing tonight are federal laws. So anywhere in the country, if kids want to do this, they can't be muted. The only thing that can mute a kid is themselves, even if they feel intimidation.

Sometimes there are adults on campus that don't know the law and they're either intentionally misinformed or honestly misinformed because they don't know. Well, that's what we're going to talk about. We're coming up to a break. And when we come back right after the break, let's go there.

We'll be right back after this. A little girl lay dying. She was only eight years old. She said, I want to see the future.

So they left that alone. Will you make me a promise? She said as he walked in. He said, tell me what I can do.

She said this to him. Tell mom and dad about Jesus and all the pain that he had to bear. Tell mom and dad about heaven above. Tell them they can see me there. Tell mom and dad about Jesus. Tell them all you've done for them. Tell mom and dad about Jesus, please. So I'll see you there.

She said, I know I'm dying, but that's not my sad. I know I'll go to heaven, but what about my dad? I told them about Jesus, but I could not make them see.

So when they come to my funeral, would you do this for me? Tell mom and dad about Jesus and all the pain that he had to bear. Tell mom and dad about heaven above. Tell them they can see me there. Tell mom and dad about Jesus. Tell them all you've done for them. Tell mom and dad about Jesus, please. So I'll see you there. She said they dropped me off at Sunday school, and I'm so glad they did.

But how great it would have to be in a church service in them. She said, promise me you'll tell them. As she faded off to sleep, he said, sweetheart, don't worry. That's a promise that I'll keep. Tell mom and dad about Jesus and all the pain that he had to bear. Tell mom and dad about heaven above. Tell them they can see me there. Tell mom and dad about Jesus.

Tell them all you've done for them. Tell mom and dad about Jesus, please. So I'll see them again. Tell mom and dad about Jesus, please. So I'll see them again. That's what we're talking about, telling mom and dad about Jesus. Well, telling everybody, but right now we've got a very important message for the people out there, because many of you have received in the mail these COVID testing kits, and I know myself at my home, I've received six of them, and they've sent them out to, some have sent as much as 50 million homes. So there's a message you really need to hear and spread the word.

Go ahead and take her away. For the 60 million people who are receiving those free government-issued at-home COVID tests, the extraction tube in many of the kits includes a chemical that can be harmful or even deadly. It's colorless, tasteless, odorless. It's a powder that's found in things like airbags and pest control solutions. Maya Belay from our Cleveland station checks in with Poison Control for a look at the potential dangers. Ohio Poison Control centers are sounding the alarm surrounding a liquid substance called sodium azide found in some at-home COVID testing kits that could be toxic to children as well as adults if used incorrectly. Our toxicology community has been both surprised that this was an ingredient in some of the kits and also concerned. We have seen exposures in all age groups. The Drug and Poison Information Center at Cincinnati Children's Hospital reports an increase in calls to their hotline related to accidental exposure to the substance. So far, nearly 40 exposures were reported there, and the problem is nationwide. We are one of 55 poison control centers, and nationwide other poison centers have been reporting a similar finding, and there have been more than a couple of hundred exposures nationwide to sodium azide in test kits. Doctors advise parents to keep the kids out of reach of children, and when testing children for COVID at home, to make sure they are supervised in order to avoid any adverse side effects from exposure. Sodium azide can be toxic to humans, to animals, and things that it can cause that we would want to look out for would be like low blood pressure, weakness, fatigue, people passing out.

If an accident occurs, call the nearest poison control center. Alrighty, we're back, and I think we need to maybe play that a couple of times during the week, but anyhow, because I know I've received those kits myself in the mail, and I can't believe it, I'm glad I didn't open them up for any reason, but we're back, and to tell mom and dad about Jesus, that song that we just played there, back in the early 1970s, and Pastor Joe here remembers, we kind of had a campaign here, I was contacted by a wonderful lady named Martha, who was a public school teacher, she had an actual, just like in the movies, a one room school house, it was like the little red school house there, and with the ten commandments on the wall and a Bible on her desk, and that little one room school house, the communists came, and they came in and they demanded that she remove the ten commandments and the Bible. Anyhow, she called me, and we got into a fight with the ACLU here in Ohio, and it resulted in the start of homeschooling. We really started promoting back in the early 70s homeschooling in Ohio, and it really took off, really because our battle with the ACLU became louder and clearer, and so here with the curriculum, because at that time there wasn't really a lot of curriculum for the homeschoolers, now there is so much Bible-based, and it's Bible-based curriculum, and we praise the good Lord for that, and also we see a lot of new Christian schools opening every day. But again, what you guys are doing into the public schools, I remember very clearly when Madeline Murray O'Hare had God expelled, there was a corrupt court, a corrupt court that really, what they did is they were treasonous. They were treason against God and country in this United States when they expelled God from the public school. And do you know what happened with our curriculum starting from that very time in 1962? At that time, America was number one in the whole world in curriculums today, scholastically.

Today, the last I heard, they were like 46. What do you have to say, Nate? We are a country that has the burden of caring for the next generation, and I think it's been said that the measure of any society is how we treat our children. And as I look at our public schools now, I see that we've got a lot of kids going to school named after a president of the United States, but they're really struggling to capture any type of the American dream.

And so that's ironic. And I think to study something without motivation or without purpose in why you're here and what your life's about and what the big picture is, it's really hard to be motivated. And so I think the fact that we have now kids growing up not just without biblical moorings, but just without a real sense of purpose. I think they're looking for something to give their lives to and something to be a part of that's going to give them their identity, and they're having to just improvise because we've taken the Creator out. Sort of like when you take a fish out of water, and the fish is flopping around, and any time we try to do life without God, we're unplugging or extracting ourselves from the one in whom we live and move and have our being, the one we were created for.

Fish were made to live in water. Kids were made to have a relationship with God. And we've now taken that out of the curriculum. And so we're working as a ministry on ways for kids to hear about Jesus and have that reintroduced.

And it's something they're really just eager to have. We have some kids that are not interested, but the vast majority are interested in spiritual conversations and want to know about the truth and want to know why they're here and what life's about. And so I think we're going to, I think, see a reversal as more kids realize that there's more to life than just getting a good date to prom and getting into a good college. And we have some kids that can't even do that. There's some kids that are failing at that much lower bar, and we want them to know that there's a reason for their life. There's a person who loves them in us, but we're reflecting the love of Jesus.

And that's the reason that we're all here. And so our country as a whole will continue to drift if we don't have the moorings and the anchors of God's word. And that's what we're trying to put back in schools by running this ministry that God's given us.

Yeah, well, Jeff, what is your experience in the blue state of California and other blue states that are teaching CRT and multi-gender encouragement and abortion, lack of true history lessons? What's the feedback you get from these kids as you bring the Spirit of the Lord to them? Well, when we go into a Bible club, you know, I'm just thinking about, I try to attack that stuff from God's word. God's word is a powerful weapon. It's a living organism, right?

So if I can get this living organism tucked inside their little spirit, it's going to grow. Think about Hebrews 4.12. For the word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than a two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing assent of soul and spirit and joints and marrow and discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the heart.

See, like God pre-wired us for a relationship with Him, only Jesus can fill that cork. The word of God is so powerful. So as we meet in these schools and get the word of God into these kids and they come back week after week, I'm doing some stuff where we give them a Bible verse because they come back next week and they recite that verse. And so that changes their life. See, God's word, it has such a deep impact and will transform their thoughts.

You know what I mean? Like when I came to Jesus, I was so jacked up. I came to Jesus on my 10th suicide attempt with an AK-47 in my head, $10,000 a month addiction. But one, I got in God's word and was filled with the Spirit.

Nobody had to tell me anything. See, those things instantly shifted because I had the Spirit. So God's word is so powerful. And so that, when we love kids well, man, these kids are so jacked up. They come from dysfunctional homes, single-parent households, no dads, lots of no dads in the family.

They're with the kids. And so the fatherless generation, when you love kids well, it doesn't matter where they're at, where they come from, what they believe. They're drawn to Jesus' love flowing in into the life of a believer and out of the life of a believer. You know, Jeff, for 45 years, we had a death row ministry.

I was going to death row. And one of the things that they had in common, I mean, virtually it was 100% of those men up there had no father in the home. And I learned early on when I first started going there, I was under the impression that without a father in the home, a single mother would be drawn closer to her son.

But it doesn't work that way. It worked just in the opposite way. Those young boys, as young boys became very angry towards their single mothers. I was going to share a quick story, just about like the LGBTQ story, right? So like I was launching out a new Bible club, right? And it was packed out, man.

There was 42 kids that came in that classroom that day. And I preached the word of God. We shared testimonies how Jesus saved our life. We led kids to Christ. We led worship in there. Kids' hands raised.

It was so powerful. So those kids left that day. Every one of them asked for a Bible.

We had a whole case there. We didn't try to push that on them. They wanted one.

Praise God. These are middle schoolers. They came running up to us saying, we love you.

Thank you so much for coming. It so caught us off guard because we weren't expecting that from them. But they were so thankful. They got a taste of the real love of Jesus, which will break through the hardest of hearts. And they were loved unwell and God's word. So anyways, a student who came from that, you know, the demographic there, wanted to ask a real question. Hey, what does the Bible say about this?

Right? So it was a student led question. And one of my volunteers answered that question, what the Bible said, right?

And oh my gosh, it blew up so big. About being gay? Yeah, just about being gay. Just kind of what the Bible said about that. And you know, it was God's word. And the student asked in an after school rental agreement program, you know, a real honest truth. Hey, what's the Bible say about that?

She felt comfortable with the leader to ask them that question. Anyways, man, big explosion. And I learned that, man, there's some topics you should probably take somewhere else. Because of the warfare and stuff I had to deal with, that was so crazy.

And that club shrunk so fast with all the chatter, this and that. And the mom was angry, all this stuff. And so here's a testimony. When the enemy was trying to get me to retreat my tent pegs, God just said, stand, stand.

It was the hardest thing for me to do. Ephesians 6. But you know what? We're soldiers. And soldiers only go one way.

And we only extend our tent pegs. And so as we prayed and kept pushing through this thing, holding our ground, when I was losing all hope. Honestly, just being real with you. Guess who started coming back to the club? A homosexual girl.

Even with her girlfriend. And guess what? They're in the word. They were just there last week again. They're so excited. They're going to be helping lead and launch out Project 25, one of the girls is. And it's just exciting because see, I said, are you kidding me?

They're coming back again? Praise God. Only God could have planned something like that. But they were really drawn to the love of Jesus in that classroom. You know what I mean?

They don't get that anywhere else. And so He draws the hearts back to week after week after week. And they're growing in their walk with Christ. And so me, before Christ, when I came to Jesus, just spending time in the word, it renewed my mind. I was renewed by the transforming of my mind through God's word, which is absolute truth.

See, I don't have to tell them this and that. God's word will reveal that to them in time. And so as we love them well, we push Jesus, God's word, into their lives and they grow in that stuff.

That's where ultimate transformation will happen with stuff. And so that's just a little testimony. I've done ministry over 26 years with kids in the hood, gang kids. A lot of the kids from the LGBTQ stuff, whether I was doing skate church in Spokane, Washington or this and that. Yeah, let me break in for a minute because, you know, this year, normally I do about three funerals a year, two to three funerals a year. And I've been doing this for a lot of years. Well, this year we did nine.

And well, not this year, last year for 22. And I see a lot of, in our church, I've buried almost 50 people now over the years. And most of the folks that I've done recently have been folks that were at the age.

They were in their 70s or 80s and, you know, that's the way it's supposed to be. But now we're seeing a lot, these young people are seeing, because of fentanyl and others, a lot of their classmates. They're seeing their classmates dying in large, very large numbers now. And there seems to be, in the country, whispers almost of a revival taking place. These kids now are, they want to get away from what has been taught in the public schools.

The anti-Christ, the world thing, the couple of virtual cultural Marxism. That's what's been in there. So we're seeing that happening now. And so this is the time, we have like a window that's open to reach many of these kids right now because of that, don't we?

Yes, we do. I remember when we just first started Urban Youth Collaborative, one of our pastor colleagues, a senior pastor that went as a guest to one of the local high schools in southeast San Diego, near where I live, and he asked this room full of 50 kids, sample group, who had come to the faith club. He said, how many of you live with your mom and dad in the same house? 50 kids.

Nobody raised their hand. And so then he told me this as we were having lunch. And then a couple of days later, I was at another neighborhood school, not far from that one. And I had 60 kids in the room as the guest speaker that day. And I asked 60 students, how many of you, as soon as school's out today, if you wanted to, know exactly where you can find drugs?

And all 60 hands went up. And so when our communities have situations where it's easier to find drugs than dads, then the emptiness of the human soul will just be on full display. And so the love of the Heavenly Father is what these kids are craving, and Jesus is the one who makes that reconnection possible. And I think that is where the revival is going to start, when kids realize there's something that satisfies me more than fentanyl.

Because fentanyl will help you forget your problems for a couple of hours, but then when you wake up, you've got more problems. And it's going to end up killing you the morning after, the minute after. And so the love of God is the only thing that satisfies a human soul. And once kids get a taste of that, then they're going to want to share that with their friends, and they're going to want to be a part of what God has in store for their life.

And then that becomes electric. That becomes like a fire, where one kid has that fire inside them, and somebody else is cold and empty, and that fire can spread to their heart. And I think we're seeing that among college kids, the Asbury revival has been going on and hitting the news where people are confessing sin, and they're saying, life on my own doesn't work. That's what it means to confess sin.

The fish is like, I'm made for water, and I've been spending a lot of time outside of water, and it's not working very well for me. And once you find out that we were made for God, then everybody starts to experience that. And then prayer is talking to God again, and worship is acknowledging the value of Christ and praising Him.

If you take a ring to a jeweler, you get it appraised. And when we were worshiping God, we're appraising His value, and declaring who He is, and then we're realizing we can't live in a spiritual desert. And the public schools right now spiritually are a famine, and we're serving physical food and spiritual food to kids that are starving for both. And once they taste it, it's an acquired taste, but it satisfies you.

It fills you up and makes you hungry for more. And then you start inviting your friends over. Like you were talking about the box of Bibles, Jeff, where kids are like, can I get another one? And can I have one for my friend?

Can I get one for my brother? And just like in other countries where people have to fast and pray for Bibles for years, we've got a whole generation here that haven't held a Bible, haven't opened one or read from one. And so this is our opportunity to address the famine. And so I'm praying for a revival and for more and more of these public school kids. I saw something on our social media today that somebody had one of these Bible clubs that we're supporting and a student leader speaking to his friends, and the tagline said, what if the next revival is happening in our public schools? And the district can't stop it.

They've tried. If you read my book in Chapter 3, I talk about the fall of 2015 when one of the biggest districts in the country came after us by name and tried to stop us and slander us and imply that we were illegally operating. But the law and the law are on our side, and if kids want this, it literally can't be stopped. And we want to get the word out about what's possible and about what churches can do and about what students can do, because I will say this, as a parent, my wife and I are foster parents. We've had seven of other people's kids in our house.

After my big ask of I want to quit my job and go after kids in public schools, my wife had a big ask for me, which was let's have some of these kids come into our own living room. And so we've had seven of other people's kids in our house, and we have three of our own. And I understand the desire to protect our kids, and I have some kids in public school now. I have some kids in private school now based on what's good for them. But we have to have a solution for public schools because COVID has changed it a little bit with private schooling and with homeschooling, and I have deep respect for Christians that want to protect their kids and not have them exposed to all this.

And yet we still have 55 million kids in public schools that aren't going to necessarily go to a homeschool environment because their parents aren't concerned about that. Okay, Nate, I've got to jump in because we're coming up to... You got it. Tell the folks how they can contact.

Right now we have a year from coast to coast, and there's many, many... Wonderful, yeah. You can find us at UYC. That's Urban Youth Collaborative.

I say Umbrella Yellow Charlie on the radio with consonants because they're fun. That's We have our bookstore there. We've got some online training and courses, and we have lots of ways for student leaders and churches to get involved, and we're looking forward to what God's going to do in this time. We talked about the critical time that we're in, and right now the laws haven't changed, and these are federal laws.

Our lawyer tells us it might be five or ten more years until there's an attempt to change the Equal Access Act. So we want to make the most of every opportunity while we have the open door, and is the place where churches can go and student leaders can go, financial partners can go, to help us get more workers into the harvest fields. Dr. Landis? Yes, go ahead, Joe. Pastor Joe, can I ask you a big question after the break?

Something that pastors need to know and don't. Maybe you can help. I'd be happy to answer it if I can. All right. All right. We're going to be going up to that break, and then, fellas, when we come back, Joe and I, we have to do some lightning rounds.

We want you guys to stay right there with us. Right. First I've got a big question for you.

All right. And then, a little later, we're going to open the phone lines, and we're going to take calls from around the country. So we have a very fast program tonight.

Every night we have a very, very fast program. So, Now, I guess one of the other questions we're going to find out is how is the fact, how are we affected by the fact that the so-called Justice Department and the FBI, they have been, well, not too friendly with Christians and parents going to the school boards and wanting to get the pornography out of the school books and wanting to get prayer back in, but we see on the other side of that. I know here in our area there might not have been a red wave in Congress, but there was a red wave when it comes to the school boards.

We took back a lot of school boards with people, with Christian people, Christian parents. So we have that going in our favor. Right? Right.

So anyhow, think on that because we're coming up to break, and we'll be addressing that. And then I know Joe's probably got a really, a really, really intense, very, very smart question. He's deep.

Joe is deep. And so. Hey, you know what? I used to pray for revival until I witnessed what God was doing in the schools.

I quit praying for revival because I believe that revival is praying for us as believers just to go through the doors that God's already opened. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I hear you. Like for real. Yeah.

It's crazy seeing what the Lord's doing and the hunger and thirst for these kids, for Jesus and truth and prayer. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Well, this that's something else, too, because we will talk about it when we get back.

When I was in middle school, we started every day with a prayer. But we'll talk about that right after this, because we're up against a hard break. Right. That's a countdown.

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