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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. I'm Radio Pastor Ernie Sanders and indeed this is the voice still of the Christian Resistance. And tonight we have our team here tonight.

They're our producer. None other than the courageous Craig. Good evening everybody.

And we have Randy Gay. Be blessed. No stress everybody.

Alrighty. And of course we have Lock and Load Lisa. Good evening everyone.

Now folks we're going to do this tonight. We're going to start out America. America needs prayer.

America really does. And we stand in the shadow of a holy and a just and an almighty God and a holy God must punish sin. That's what holy gods do. And one America is in trouble.

Big trouble. Now God has given you the remedy. God knows everyone who is listening to this radio program tonight. God is aware of that. He knows you're there.

He knows what you're thinking. You say well how could God possibly do that? Well that's what God does. He's omnipotent. He's omniscient.

He's omnipresent. Now we're going to go to prayer and I'm going to ask all of you to go and pray along with me because there's power in prayer. And believe me God is listening.

He knows. So join with me tonight all of you out there as we pray for America tonight. Heavenly Father, Lord God, we the people, your people here, we're the people Lord that when that court in 1962 in Washington D.C., that court that called themselves supreme when they were only supreme in the rebellion and their sin, Lord when they expelled you from the public school system, when they told you that you weren't wanted and needed now in that school system because well the other guy came in, the opposition, the devil himself, they left that door wide open and Lord we're the people when the pastors failed, when the pastors could not find the courage that they needed to march on Washington D.C. and put that corrupt court on trial for treason against God and country, we're the people that encouraged the pastors to stand. We're the ones Lord that would ask them stand up and fight and don't be afraid.

Do not, do not fail your God again but the pastors all except for just a remnant, just a very small percentage Lord, they failed. They found ways to take and twist Romans chapter 13 in the Bible to make it say that they had to obey a corrupt government because they didn't have the courage to stand up against it. And then in 1973 when that corrupt court again, when they declared you dead and they declared themselves to be God, when they said we will take what God has said is unlawful and we will make it legal by license, we will allow you if you purchase a license from the state with mammon, we will allow you to destroy the very image of God.

We will place ourself as God. And again we were the people, your people Lord that encouraged and told the pastors stand up pastors, stand up, it's your time pastors, stand up, march on D.C., go in there, put that corrupt ungodly Satan filled court on trial for treason against God and all humanity but you pastors, they failed you again Lord but we didn't, we tried, we stood, we fought, we continued and we fought and we've been fighting against the evil all of this time when the vast majority wanted to stay in the comfort zone. They feared government more than they did you and they definitely did not want to lose their 501C3, my gosh no, they wanted to hold on to that and they didn't want to offend the corrupt courts, they were afraid the IRS would come and take away the property but we were the ones Lord remember that continued to try to make them stand up and be men and play the men and then Lord when they went in, they took your divine institution of marriage and they made something dirty out of it and they polluted that. Where was the outrage, well you had a few more, you had some, I praise the Lord, I praise you for the ones you did raise up, the ones that had some courage to stand up and say this is wrong but again they failed to put that corrupt court on trial and here we are again now Lord as we come before you, we're in a police state, we have a government that is so corrupt, we have a man in the White House Lord that's a pedophile who's evil to the bone, who hates you and he hates your people, we have an attorney general who hates you, he hates pro-lifers, he hates Christians, he hates patriots, he's a corrupt and extremely corrupt man, we had the FBI which was at once, at one time it was an agency that had some integrity, they actually fought against the horrors of communism and today those in charge have gone over and they've become the very enemy of America that they once fought against and tonight here we come Lord, we're here to you and we're asking Lord, do you remember us, put us in that book of remembrance where those that we've stood our ground, we didn't back up, we didn't stand down, we continue to ask you Lord God to raise up, to raise up the righteous, we know Lord God and that in your righteous vengeance, your righteous vengeance, you use your elect to execute judgment on the wicked and the evil and Lord so we're asking you tonight to raise up your righteousness, your bold and godly people, pastors with the courage to rebuke and refute these corrupt judges that have gone a whoring, these corrupt politicians Lord that have gone a whoring, we're asking you Lord to raise up righteous and bold and honorable and courageous men to stand in the gap for our nation, we know Lord that our sewers run red with the blood of the innocent because the pastors failed you, they failed you, when the time come to stand and be bold they tucked tail and they ran and so Lord we're asking you to raise up godly, righteous, bold men, Father God out there to stand now in this time and to rebuke the corrupt judges, to rebuke these corrupt politicians and to lead the people as Christian soldiers with their eyes upon that cross of Jesus, so we're asking you Lord tonight to remember us and to hear us and to answer our prayers, this we ask in Jesus name, amen, amen, amen, that was almost a sermon, amen, yes, already now speaking of messages, the title of the message was God's righteous vengeance and God does use his elect to execute vengeance on his enemies and tonight we're going to go to 1 Samuel chapter 15, I'm going to read verses 1-14 and you pick it up in verse 15 Randy, alright got it, Samuel also said unto Saul, the Lord sent me to anoint thee to be the voice of the words of the Lord, thus said the Lord of hosts, I remember that when Amalek did to Israel, how he laid waste for him in the way and when he came up from Egypt, now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but slay both man and woman and infant and suckling ox, sheep, camel and ass and Saul gathered all the people together and numbered them and tell them 200,000 foot men and 10,000 men of Judah and Saul came to the city of Amalek and laid weight in the valley and Saul said unto the Kenites, go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites lest I destroy you with them for they showed kindness, for you showed kindness to all the children of Israel when they came up out of Egypt, so the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites and Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to shore and over against Egypt and he took Agag, the king of the Amalekites alive and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword but Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep and of the oxen and of the fatlings and of the lambs and all that was good and would not utterly destroy them but everything that was vile they refused, they destroyed utterly. Then came the word of the Lord unto Samuel saying, it repenteth me that I set up Saul to be king for he turned back from the following me and hath not performed my commandments and it grieved Samuel and he cried unto the Lord all night and when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning it was told Samuel saying, Saul came to Carmel and behold he set him up a place and has gone about and passed on and gone about down to Gilgal and Samuel came to Saul and said unto Saul and to him, blessed be thou the Lord I have performed the commandment of the Lord and Samuel said, what meaneth then this bleeding of the sheep in mine ears and the lowing of the oxen that I hear and Saul said, they have brought them from the Amalekites for the people spareth the best of the sheep and of the oxen to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God and the rest we have utterly destroyed. Then Samuel said unto Saul, stay and I will tell thee what the Lord have said to me this night and he said unto him, say on and Samuel said, when thou was little in thine own sight was thou not made in the head of the tribes of Israel and the Lord anointed thee king over Israel and the Lord said, sent thee on a journey and said, go and utterly destroy the sinners of the Amalekites and fight against them until thou consume us, wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord and did not fly upon the spoil and dost evil in the sight of the Lord and Samuel and Saul said unto Samuel, yea I have obeyed the voice of the Lord and have gone the way which the Lord sent me and have brought Agag the king of the Amalekites and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites but the people took of the spoil sheep, oxen and the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God and Gilgal and Samuel said, hath the Lord as great a delight in burn offering and sacrifice as in the obeying of the voice of the Lord, behold to obey is better than sacrifice, to hearken than the fat of rams, for rebellion is as a sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as an iniquity in idolatry, behold thou hast rejected the voice of the Lord, he hath also rejected from thee being king. And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and thy words which, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice, now therefore I pray thee pardon my sin and turn again with me that I may worship the Lord. And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee for thou hast rejected the word of the Lord and the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel. And Samuel turned about to go away and he laid hold upon the skirt of the mantle and rented and Samuel said unto him, the Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day and have given it to a neighbor with thine that is better than thou and also the strength of Israel will not lie nor repent, for he is not a man that should repent. Then he said, I have sinned, yet honor me now I pray thee before the elders of the people and before Israel and turn again with me and I may worship the Lord God, so Samuel turned again from Saul and Saul worshiped the Lord. Then said Samuel, bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites and Agag came unto him delicately and Agag said, surely thy bitterness of death is past. When Samuel said, as thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women and Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord of Gilgo and Samuel went to Remah and then Saul went up to the house of Gibba, of Saul and Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death, nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul and the Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel. Okay so, how do you think you can justify the Lord killing all the men, women, children, even the babies, how could you justify that?

Because all that is corrupt is like, it's like leaven, it will ultimately work its way back through the people, permeate the society and then they'll turn from him. But didn't God himself say to Jonah, should I destroy those that don't know the left from the right, in other words those that are not at the age of discernment in Nineveh? But while they were a threat, God gives everybody time and there's an end to the patience of God because when they came through the first time, he had them not wipe them out, not destroy them, but it had continued. Okay so, the Amalekites were the very first people to attack Israel when God sent them into the Promised Land.

You said go into this land, now I'm going to give it to you. Was it God's to give? So now, let me ask you this, they were a wicked people, the Amalekites were, they were like Democrats today, they were like Democrats and I'm not saying that to be mean or nasty, it's just true, Democrats are for abortion, they're for sodomy, they're for pedophilia if it's a sin. And they're against God too. Yes.

And they're totally against God, okay. In fact, we're going to be showing Lord's Willing a film in church on Sunday and it's one that shows, it goes in especially Hollywood and it shows you some of these people, that fellow that played in that movie, oh and I'm having one of my senior moments where it was the fellow that was in the Vietnam War and he got out, he made the statement that mama always said that life is like a box of chocolates. Oh, Forrest Gump. Yeah, well the guy that played Forrest Gump.

Tom Hanks. That's who I'm trying to think of, he's in there and this guy watching what he's doing with these little girls in this film, it shows you just how corrupt my boy and all of NBC, ABC, CBS, they all know this and Fox News and yet they idolized this wicked man, Tom Hanks and but when you see what he's doing, okay, so here the Amalekites were very, very wicked people and if God had destroyed just the adults and not the children, what would have become of the children? Well, they'd have become the adults, you'd have still had the same issue. Yes. No, children need adults to raise them, you see little children cannot raise themselves.

Oh, you're talking about the very small children. Yes. Well, yeah, but you see now here, let me ask you this, okay, is God omniscient, does he know what the future holds? Sure. Yes.

So does he know that those children, because of the wickedness, because their parents would offer children up as sacrifices, was God totally cognizant that the children would be better if he brought them home with him? Yes. Yeah. But now if we say that, won't the opposition use that very same logic for saying, well, therefore, that justifies abortion? Well, they might say that, but that's not true, because only the giver of life can take life.

Yes. All right, so God says, if I decide if I choose, okay, to kill and then make a life, who can argue with me? Well, God owns everything, he created everything, so God has that right.

And nobody else does, because nobody else has that right or that ability. I'll bet Craig thinks he does. All right, so now here, so God knows in advance, his ways are so much higher than our ways. Did he know from eons ago that this was going to happen, it was going to go this way? Yes, he did. So he was all prepared, isn't he? Well, didn't he say, as they exited the promised land, that the iniquity, the amorites was not complete yet? In other words, he knew they were going to do what they did, but they hadn't done it yet.

And that's exactly what he meant. Was Saul more concerned with pleasing the people and being liked among the people that he was pleasing God? He absolutely was, because he never really repented. He was more concerned in this whole episode with saving face, when he said to Samuel, okay, I've sinned, but honor me in front of the people, don't do this in front of them. Well, he said, you know, it was the people, the people kept all those sheep and those oxen and all those things.

The tradition back in those days where normally when you would go to war with a tribe like that, that they would kill off all the men and they would keep the women as servants, but the men that were of fighting age would be killed off automatically, and the children would be kept as servants. Now, what God told them, no, don't do that. So Saul, he didn't take responsibility, he said, you know, it was the people, look at the people here.

You know, they, you know, I feared the people, right? Well, exactly, he felt the people mourning God, because the people wanted to sacrifice, so he let them sacrifice, and he said, we're going to sacrifice to you. But it's in direct contrast or conflict with what God had told him to do. So did Joe Biden, did he fear AOC and the squat and Bernie Sanders and these people more than, and Obama, did Joe Biden fear them more than God? Yes, he does.

So he wanted to please them more than God? Yes. What about Mary Garland?

Did Mary Garland want to do that? Absolutely. Yes.

Okay. Now, Samuel, he called Saul out by name. Yes, he did. Should not the pastors in this country be calling Joe Biden out by name? Yes, but they fear the people, too. They fear that the IRS, the 501c3, they don't want to lose that, do they? They fear other things more than God, whether it's getting reelected, whether it's being at odds with the squad, there's so many factions that they're afraid of, you name your poison, whichever faction they feel helped them become what they are. It's like whoever helps you get elected, that's who they fear. So do they need to repent of that? They need to never have embraced that. Big time, huh? Yeah. We'll be back right after this. Don't go away.

More to come. There's a man who leads a life of bondage to the federal government, he pays his homage. Seems the more he tries to make, the more they tax and take.

Odds are he won't live to pay his mortgage. U.S. citizen, U.S. citizen, well, they've issued you a number for which you've signed your name. Back when we were strangled by depression, while FDR was selling out the nation, there was devised an evil scheme, it was a wicked tyrant's dream, nine numbers now that chain you to their system, U.S. citizen, U.S. citizen, well, they've issued you a number for which you've signed your name.

In March of 1933, President FDR declared the bankruptcy of a private corporation known as the federal U.S. government. In order to calm the American people into paying this fraudulent debt, he set up the Social Security Act. When you sign your Social Security card, you unwittingly become a federal U.S. citizen, pledging your life, liberty, and property as surety for a debt you don't owe. In other words, you become a federal debt slave to your federal master, Uncle Samuel. Don't despair, there is a sure solution, sure to start a righteous reformation.

You can refuse to play their game, we send the number off your name, just file the forms and drop out of the system, U.S. citizen, U.S. citizen, well, they've issued you a number for which you've signed your name, now you don't have to play their game, don't let the fraud enslave your name, we send the number off your name. We are back and again we have a whole lot to talk about tonight. Alright starting here, DOJ resurrects civil war era charge against patriotic Christian that faces rarely used accusations and the article, now I will say to the folks that we have changed some of the words in here because it's the right thing to do. We're telling the truth, right? The corrupt democratic prosecutors claim this civil war era charge strikes to the heart of what happened that day, which they believe was a coordinated effort to stop the transfer of presidential power, they don't believe that, they lied. They're corrupt to the core and they know that, okay? Stuart Rhodes and his followers are the first January 6th defendants to stand trial on such a charge.

The corrupt justice department hasn't tried its audacious conspiracy case in a decade and hasn't won a guilty verdict since 1995, the prosecution of Islamic militants who plotted to bomb New York City landmarks. The corrupt democratic prosecutors claims that Rhodes and the oath keepers spent weeks preparing to stop Joe Obama from becoming president. Rhodes a Texan allegedly recruited members to come to Washington, amassed weapons, that's alleged this, oh my, and organized armed teams to be outstanding by outside the city in case they were needed, authorities say. The plot came to a head according to persecutors on January 6th when the Christian patriot oath keepers were captured on camera moving through the crowd of presidential Donald Trump's patriotic supporters and moving into the capital in a military-style formation. The patriarch Christian oath keepers for their part have said that their preparations, training gear and weapons were to protect themselves from the potential attacks of the fascist antichrist left-wing Antifa activists or to be ready if Trump invoked the insurrection act to call upon militia to support his bid to stand in power, which was rightfully his and Donald Trump is still the legitimate president of the United States and all of them in fake news media that say that's not true.

They're lying and they know they're lying and there's not one of them out there, not one of them would have the courage to come on this program and set across from me, not one. Rhodes said there was no plan to attack the capital and the members who went inside went rogue. Jury selection started on Tuesday for the trial that is expected to last several weeks. What is seditious conspiracy? The law was enacted after the civil war to arrest southerners who might keep fighting the US government. In order to win a seditious conspiracy case, corrupt democratic communist prosecutors have to prove that two or more people conspired to overthrow, put down or destroy by force the US government or bring war against it or they plotted to use force to oppose the authority of the government or to block the execution of a law. Rhodes, Kelly, Meigs, Jessica, Watkins, Kenneth, Harrelson and Thomas Caldwell aren't charged with conspiring over to the government or a levy war. Instead persecutors charged that they conspired to forcibly oppose the authority of the very corrupt federal government and forcibly block the execution of laws governing the transfer of presidential power.

Specifically the elk keepers are accused of conspiring to forcibly obstruct the execution of the electoral count act and the 12th amendment of the constitution which addresses seditious conspiracy and calls for up to 20 years behind bars if convicted. I'm going to tell you right now, not one of those you would be, they would be so hard, so hard pressed. Bring on John McTernan is with us here. Big John, are you there? I'm here, Pastor Ernie. I'm reading this article here, the DOJ resurrects civil war charging against the Christian patriots.

So hang with me here. Seditious conspiracy calls for up to 20 years behind bars if convicted. Rhodes and his associates also face several other serious charges. A total of nine members or associates of the elk keepers are fighting seditious conspiracy charges. A second trial for the elk keepers charged in the case is to begin at the end of November. Three other elk keepers have already pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy or cooperating with investigators that could testify against Rhodes and at trial. Rhodes lawyers have claimed in court documents that these elk keepers are lying and pleaded guilty only because they were pressured by the government and hoped to keep, to get lighter sentences.

I'm going to just stop there. You know, I spoke on more than one occasion to the elk keepers. I went down, every one of these, every one of these men that I met made a profession of the Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior.

Every one of them believed in God, the Bible, the constitution, and the American way. That's not, that panel, that corrupt, corrupt, and I mean extremely and completely and totally corrupt panel in Washington DC. They're not worthy to tie the shoes of these elk keepers.

What do you say, John McKernan? Well, Pastor Ernie, if they're upholding the constitution and they're within the bounds of the constitution, absolutely right. I mean, we have seen time and time again, look what the FBI did to President Trump, knowing they used documents that were falsely presented to the FISA court, knowing that it was really coming from Hillary Clinton, isn't that correct, Pastor Ernie? Absolutely. They knew it, that they were to protect Hillary with her hammer, her smashing, you know, all the corrupt things she did, they were to protect her no matter what. Right. And they, Mueller, with the special prosecutor, knowing that all of this information was lies, they kept on year after year after year with President Trump.

So they have no credibility, Pastor Ernie. Now, even going into what happened on January 6th, there were loads of FBI agents there. I see them as, majority of them were agents called agent provocateurs.

We know that windows were open from the inside, doors were open from the inside and all. So this was a government, for the most part, it was a government operation against luring the people in and then ending up with this. This was planned. What they have now, going on now, I believe was planned before January 6th by the FBI and the Justice Court.

Well, you're right. We're going to be playing a clip at the, after the top of the hour by John Gundolo, who is a former FBI agent, an IRA agent. And he's saying exactly what you did.

He was there. They recognize a bunch of these rogue FBI agents. They're doing exactly what you said, John. Well, so the FBI has zero credibility, zero, no credibility. It is actually a criminal cartel now. That's what it is. Well, you better watch it. About 150 of them is coming to your house.

Let's just say you're in your 70s, so it wouldn't take no less than 70 of them with all their toys and guns to come and get you. Well, Pastor Ernie, I do have, I still believe that the me and you have a First Amendment right. Isn't that correct? Yeah, we do. Now, of course, with them, it doesn't really mean that much. But what we have spoken here, isn't it the truth? Well, absolutely.

And I want to say this. Look, I don't, I'm not, I still know some FBI agents that are not that way. They're every bit a good American as you and I are, and they believe in the Constitution. And so I don't want to lump them all together with these cowboys, these little fellas who got all their new toys, and they got their combat gear, and they want to go out and knock people's doors down and point guns in the face of little children and scare them, okay, maybe shoot their dog.

You know, no, I'm not comparing these other FBI agents. And my question to the to the good guys, is this what you signed up for? Is this what you signed up for? Now, I'm going to tell you something, you have a responsibility. You may have heard me start this radio program off. And we said a prayer and we prayed and in that I'm a pastor business been one for half a century now. But we prayed because we recognize that the people that have failed our Lord more than any other, even more than the FBI or pastors. But it was my responsibility to tell the truth. And you guys out there, you FBI agents that are still in there and you say, well, you know, I just want to kind of keep low key until I can retire.

Get out of here. I want to get know you have a responsibility. You have a responsibility before Almighty God in that nation, that oath you took to your country to do the right thing.

And I'm going to tell you, you'll either do the right thing or you will regret it as you know, read the word of God. So there you go. What do you think, John? Well, you're absolutely right, Pastor. And what's happened, though, is how do we know the good FBI agents from the bad FBI agents now? I mean, it's so tainted.

Well, John, the gondola will tell you the good FBI agents will be the ones that are blowing the whistle and sounding up, speaking up to the corrupt ones. Well, yeah. Yeah.

No, I understand that. And hey, and thank God for them. Praise the Lord for them. The FBI is so corrupt now that they'll do anything to destroy, I imagine, an agent telling the truth about them. But us as citizens, how do we know if we engage in the FBI and FBI agents that they are going to be a good guy, a white hat or a black hat? Well, you don't. But what you have to do is you have to have discernment. And discernment means we know what's happening. And so we don't trust them. We don't trust them at all. Not one little bit.

OK, that's what I'm saying. You know, years ago, OK, some there was an FBI agent or any federal or just any federal agent or the FBI that was caught. I remember there was an FBI agent years and years and years ago that was in counterintelligence and he was a big spy for Russia.

I don't remember his name, but I remember that happening. Now, I don't at that point, I didn't think all FBI agents were corrupt and all. I was glad that they got this guy and stopped him leaking vital information and all. But it's come to 2022 when I don't trust any of them. How can you now? How can you? They've destroyed their integrity.

And here's what happens, Pastor Ernie. I'm sure, I don't know what the polls say, but I'm sure there is a very large, significant percent of the population now that has tremendous mistrust in the FBI as an organization. So the organization taints everybody. And the FBI has to really operate with the people behind them, right?

I mean, otherwise, what do you have? They can't alienate 60, 70 percent of the population and expect to be, like, effective. They become more like the way the KGB was with the people. They are.

But John, you know, I think he's going to speak to that, this former agent, John Gondola, will be playing it. And what he says, basically, is that the majority of those agents, they still want, you know, they still hold to obeying the Constitution. And they're ashamed. The majority of them are ashamed of what the cowboys are, you know, and I shouldn't use that word cowboys because, you know, what it does is disrespect real cowboys. But what those guys, what the dirty cops, what the dirty 30 are doing, the majority of the FBI agents are totally against that. But they're not the ones in charge, the ones in charge, like Chris Ray and others. And so they just want to hang in there and they want to get their retirement, take an early retirement, just get out of there. They just want to get out, jump ship, and because the agency has gone so bad.

Can you picture this? Look, let's just say you're in a Baptist church. Now, you know, children, you know, children have, you know, good meetings sometimes, but children are children. And so you're an FBI agent and you go to a church, say like our church, and you're in there and you're born again, Bible believing. But one of the children in the church says to the FBI agents, children, you know, my mom and dad says that the FBI is really corrupt. You guys are doing bad things when you're really corrupt and not good people. How do you think the FBI agents, children, are going to feel about that, even though they're good, clean Christians?

Are they going to be crushed? Well, that's what's happening, according to what some of what we're hearing out there. And so this is why we're encouraging those agents, the good guys, the clean agents, to stand your ground. See, John, is it now or never? I mean, it's right now, is this the time they have to stand their ground and do the right thing or is it never? Pastor Ernie, it's every single patriot out there's time to stand their ground. Now, I think we can't expect maybe the FBI, the clean ones, to stand their ground if the people behind them out here aren't.

All right. We see the Bible always starting all the way in Genesis with Noah. We see the doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate, the doctrine all the way through Revelation. We see it with Shiphrah and Puah and Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. Well, just go to Moses, just go to the book of Hebrews chapter 11, the heroes of the faith.

It's filled from top to bottom. And the doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate, when those, when the king failed to do the thing that's right, then his people are charged with stepping up. Does that not apply? Does God not expect those in the FBI to stand up and become the Lesser Magistrates? I would expect that he would, Pastor Ernie, that first of all, they have the spiritual, what you just mentioned spiritually, but we also have the Constitution. And the oath that you took when you became a federal agent is to defend the Constitution against enemy's father. Yeah, but yeah, but John, who did you take that oath to? The Bible, and God trumps the Constitution.

Well, no, what I'm saying, Pastor Ernie, there's a double edge, there's a double thing in that. There's to God what we owe to God, but also when we took the oath about the Constitution. I took it when I became an agent.

I took it too. And I've done, I can honestly say, and I know you can too, I've done my very, very best. I, to keep the oath, I've never, I've never stepped back on it. I'm tongue tied here, but I'm going to say when I was an agent and I retired in 1998, that never once was I put in a position to compromise myself and working with the other agents, we never really felt that we were being put in positions to compromise ourself because I wouldn't do it.

I would not do it back in those days. It never really even entered my thought, but it somehow, I could kind of see it coming when I retired. I, the people that were coming in and politically and that I could, I'm not surprised that things are like the way they are now. But I'm glad that I was an agent when I was, Pastor Ernie, that you wouldn't be in a situation where you are now.

And I work with many FBI agents. When I get out of the service and I came home, my dad told me, he said, I hate this to tell you this, but this country is going to, it's going to go communist. The communists have infiltrated this country.

They've infiltrated every aspect and they're playing on the ignorance of the people and the apathy and little by little, they've infiltrated, they're parasitical and someday the communists will take over America. And I said, not as long as I've got a breath in me. And he said, well, that's the problem. He said, you'll be one of the few to stand and fight. And he said, I'll be gone when this happens. He says, and he was, he was exactly, absolutely right.

He was. I guess Pastor Ernie, you got your wisdom like that from your dad. Yeah, I'm smarter than I look, I can tell you that. No comment, no comment. Alrighty.

Alright. We'll, we'll, we'll let that go. Ernie, listen, Ernie's, Ernie's got an article he's been wanting to get on this.

He just, he's sitting over there. Yeah, yeah. This one, I think this is a great article, elderly Michigan lady shot while campaigning against pro-abortion ballot proposal and 84 year old volunteer canvasser in Michigan was shot following in an argument while distributing pro-life pamphlets door to door in her own community, which was Odessa, Michigan, which is near grand Rapids, about a state abortion proposal. She was taken to the hospital for treatment and later released.

She's strong, dedicated, longtime pro-life volunteer who is not easily intimidated and we're happy she's okay. What's disturbing about this is that proposal three is known as the right to reproductive freedom, RRFI, and is supported by a reproductive freedom for all, a coalition of groups, including the Michigan ACLU and Planned Parenthood. The briefs says in part, if passed, the RRFI will endorse Michigan's constitution in Michigan's constitution, the most extreme abortion law in the country. It creates a new, unlimited, unregulated right to abortion, and in addition, undefined right to a reproductive freedom. It also allows a minor to have an abortion without the knowledge or consent of the parents and gives the child the right to procure a sex change without parental knowledge. The Great Lakes Justice Center is also part of this and it also contends that sex between an adult and a minor will be protected by the amendment as long as the child is in consent. The Great Lakes Justice Center also concludes by stating that the new reproductive freedom right would invalidate numerous existing state proposals before protecting women and children and parents.

That's really kind of disturbing. Okay, John, here's what I'd like you to do, and I'd like all the people out there, all the people listening, listen, if you're for real, I mean if you're really for real, if you do believe the word of God, now let me tell you, God's word says abortion is murder. God says abortion is murder. God has said all of those people that come up with that legislation are unclean people. That's what the word of God has said. Now, they call a murder reproductive rights.

They call pedophilia a right. John, would you please have the people all across the country, we're going to ask them, would you lead us in a prayer asking that God would remove the wicked people that came up with this legislation? These people are wicked, they're ungodly, they're unclean, and that God would raise up some pastors to have the backbone to stand and stand against that.

Would you do that? Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Heavenly Father, we are before you in the name of Jesus, and Lord, we are becoming a unclean nation state by state before you, Lord. Lord, there are people who will make a living out of, and they are driven to kill babies in the womb. There's something about, there's a blood lust in them, Lord, literally a blood lust. They can't kill enough babies in the womb. And it's expanded now, Lord, to mutilating little children, wanting to mutilate literally little children, sexually confused, easily led, and mutilate them sexually, Lord.

And then, Lord, they want to, again with children that don't know enough, they haven't matured, they want to legalize molesting them, Lord. This is pure, like it was in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, in the days of Noah, and we're asking, Lord, that you, this is in Michigan, and that there would be a, as your people become aware, they would stand up. This is like all hands on deck, Lord, to port this, and not only that, but to cry out to you that people like this can do this. So, Lord, we're asking now from your people, leadership from the churches, that this would go like wildfire from one end of Michigan to the other, that your people would be running to the polls on election day to vote against this, Lord, that you would raise up a boldness in your people no more, no more in Michigan, no more in the states here that still have righteousness in them, that we wouldn't tolerate this anymore, and Lord, the people that are perpetuating this, they hate you. John, we're up against a hard run. Thank you. Hang tight.

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