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So I work for an organization called the Colbay Center for the Study of Creations named after St. Maximilian Colbay, who was a martyr during World War II, and it's spelled K-O-L-B-E. So our website is www.colbaycenter.org. And if anybody has questions about any of the things I'm about to say, they're welcome to reach out to me through our contact page on that website. All right.

Thank you very much. Go ahead, Del, and answer Randy's questions. Sure. So Randy, you asked, you know, why are border fetal cells used in vaccine development? So this is something I can speak to. Yeah, when I had heard you speak at the Ohio Right to Life, well, the National Right to Life. But I was thinking that I thought that people would find it most enlightening about the fact of why aborted baby parts are used in virtually every vaccine. And if you could, you know, give like a brief synopsis of like the history, the sinister history of this stuff, because most people don't realize that we probably all had some of it.

Yeah. So there's a really amazing organization that I became familiar with in high school called Children of God for Life. And they publish their website is COGFORlife.org. And they publish an update pretty frequently, a list of unethical vaccines. And they keep track of exactly which vaccines are produced with the border fetal cells, which fetal cells are used in those vaccines, and how they're used. And they provide all the documentation for that on their website. So it's, if anybody, you know, misses anything, or has a specific question about any of those vaccines, or, you know, oh, no, you know, I don't want to give these to my kids or things like that.

And you can't remember which ones, you can go to their website and download their charts, one page PDF, it's pretty cool. But I spoke, I think, in the conference a little bit about like, how aborted fetal abortive fetal cells are used in vaccine production, and then which vaccines use aborted fetal cells. And then just a little bit about the history of that.

So I'll kind of go through that if that sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. And so the, the vaccines that are currently on the market, um, well, let me let me back up and say, first, how how they're used. So many vaccines are actually live virus vaccines. So this includes chicken pox and MMR and measles, and are some measles, monster Bella, the hepatitis A, and a number of other vaccines. And so a virus is a really, really complicated piece of molecular machinery. You know, there's a debate over whether they're they're alive or not.

And we could go on about that all day, but it's not really relevant. But the point is, you can't actually build a virus in a test tube, you have to build a virus in a cell. Because viruses in nature, when they make you sick, they're what they're doing is they're hijacking the machinery of your own cells, and causing yourself to make lots more copies of themselves.

Those are those are going on to infect other cells. So you need a cell to make a virus. And if you are making a virus in an animal cells, you can have problems when you use the vaccine with allergies.

So some people have egg allergies, and so they can't take the flu vaccine, because those are produced in chicken eggs. There have been some issues with vaccines are produced in monkey cells. Sometimes there's some some viruses that can cross over from from monkeys to humans. And there have been vaccine batches that have been decaminated with viruses. And so people have actually been injected with flies, monkey viruses, as well as the vaccine virus.

And so there's just a lot of problems, kind of no matter what you you grow your virus in for your vaccine. But the biggest problem, in my opinion, is actually when they started using human cells, because they, they were looking for a source of cells that was, you know, easy to obtain, relatively, you know, long lived, so and then also free of any kind of viral contamination, or any genetic defects. And it actually goes all the way back to the 1930s. Which surprises a lot of people because they think, Oh, well, you know, abortion wasn't legal until the 1970s.

You know, how could we be? How could people be doing aborted fetal tissue research in the 1930s? But this was actually developed in part for the polio virus. So if you've taken the the oral polio virus, the one that was on the sugar cube, you've actually taken a vaccine that was produced and developed using aborted fetal cells and required quite a few abortions to do. Because the fellow who developed that was looking at a new way to grow viral vaccines.

He wanted to do it in human cells. And they started contracting with hospitals that were doing forced abortions on women who were deemed unfit to breed, which was actually a practice that became common after the the Buck versus Bell decision in 1920. Where a number of states implemented model eugenics laws, and they were trying to make sure that that people only had babies that were going to be, you know, healthy and smart and productive members of society. And, you know, the same people that that, you know, are working on birth control vaccines now, the same kind of people that are working on birth control vaccines now are probably deciding who is fit and unfit to have children back then. So it's kind of a continuous unfortunate legacy from the beginning of even the polio vaccine development, that we've, we've taken advantage of people who were deemed lesser or deemed being unfit. So these researchers were looking for a cell line that they could grow their vaccine in, and they wanted a human cell line. And, you know, if you, if you were looking for a cell line that could grow their vaccine, and, you know, if you, if you have an adult donor, you have issues as the cells won't live as long, they won't, they might be infected with viruses, or some other kind of problem, they're going to have accumulated potentially more mutations, because they've been dividing any human body longer, they're, in a sense, a little bit harder to culture.

But, the moral aspects of using adult cells far outweigh the slight advantages, you know, from a biological perspective of using younger cells. So how old is this? Just like the technology you're talking about now, this has been going on for how many years? How many years? Almost 100 years.

I think the first paper that I have evidence for abortive fetal cell lines is from the 1936, 1936. So it's been 84 years. So this has been going on, and this is all leading up to where we are now? I mean, isn't that true? Yeah. No, no, I think it's very much all leading up to where we are now. So, because you, if you start, you know, killing people to make other people well, you know, that, that leads to really bad things. You know, so these, these cell lines were obtained, and I'm actually going to read a quote from the paper here.

I'm sure this will bring America back to life. This is a quote from a research paper by Albert Sabin, who was working on developing the vaccines. And again, this one's from 1936, so 84 years ago, or 86 years ago.

86 years ago. And he says, he's talking about making cell lines, and he says, a new approach was made by the use of three to four month old human embryos, which were obtained aseptically via cesarean section. And most people are very shocked when I say that the babies that, you know, were were used to make these cell lines were delivered via cesarean section, because they're like, well, but cesarean section is used to deliver live babies. And why would somebody who was going through an abortion have cesarean section? Well, if you if you do, so another way this is sometimes described in the scientific literature is abdominal hystereotomy.

So, which is just a generic term for a cut in the abdomen. So you can sterilize people while you have their abdomen open. And so there were a lot of forced sterilizations that were going on because of the model eugenic clause two. So sometimes this was a kill two birds with one stone kind of practice just like, you know, somebody had been deemed unfit to have children, well, we'll force her to have an abortion and we'll sterilize her while we're at it. But also, you know, people people don't think this through all the way quite when they think okay, well, there's aborted fetal cells that are used in vaccines. Well, that came from an abortion that's obviously bad.

But they they usually think I think of, you know, well, the baby was dead. And then they cut it up and they made some cell lines and that was a horrible thing to do. But they don't realize that that would involve actually having like basically resurrecting dead tissue in the laboratory. You can't make a living cell line a cell line that's going to continue in the laboratory to reproduce and to grow, you know, for for 4050 60 years. You know, in laboratories all around the world, you can't you can't have a cell line that does that.

If you start with that cell. All right. You just brought up something new. Hang tight for one minute because I sure I've got some things to ask you. But first we have just this Monday, one of our contributors here on our co host, John Holman had a massive heart attack. And John McTurden from former Cops for Christ International is here. He's going to give us an update on John. So would you bring John McTurden up? Okay, John, give us give us an update on John Holman if you could.

Yeah, Pastor Ernie. He's still in on resuscitator there. He's still in critical condition. They have put a pacemaker in and three stints in his heart. They checked him over now he's still you know, he's still in a coma. And they're going to give him three days and then try and revive them. See if his heart can function. So from what I understand, he actually died, but they he brought him back temporarily, but now his heart is not pumping.

They're pumping using artificial means. All right. Just a little more Pastor Ernie about it. He began to develop like a chest issue pain kind of really of like heart problem. And he went to call his doctor, the doctor said, come right in, he came right in the doctor kind of cleared him and said, No, your heart's fine.

He was he didn't accept that. He went to the hospital and the hospital, whatever happened because I know I'm hearing second third hand about this. Whatever happened, the hospital sent him home. He got home and he couldn't breathe. He checked his pulse.

It was 200 I think. And he called the ambulance. EMTs came, they took him to the hospital on the way to the hospital. His heart stopped. So they had to revive him in the hospital. I mean, in the, you know, on the way to the hospital. But the fact that they put the pacemaker in the stents means that they they believe that there's a chance of recovery, right? Yes.

Yes. All right. Folks, please keep him in prayer.

Please keep him in prayer. I want to go back. John, say hi to Pamela Acker. Hello, Pamela.

OK, Pam. Now I wanted to and John is a long time pro-life activist. John has, in fact, he's he's battled. He's been in the battle like all of us. And, you know, over the years, I've probably been sued more than anybody I know for being out in front of the bloody abortion mills, charged with every kind of crime you can imagine, for preaching the gospel and saving babies.

But in John also and John Holman, too. But anyhow, this brings me to something that I know is happening. It's a horrible, horrible, horrible thing. And that's what I believe that these women, well, like we just recently passed out there in California and what they passed in New York, where where a baby that is born and is alive. And even, you know, I mean, babies are alive before they're born, too, obviously, or you wouldn't. But so but now they want to be able to keep them as long as five, six, seven days after they're born more and then kill them.

But I have I have a bad feeling that what's happening. There are some wicked, wicked people out there that these women will actually bring a live child, bring it and deliver that baby alive and sell it for research. And I know that when they when they use these babies parts, they don't give them anything for pain. They dissect them alive. And I got a bad feeling that that that is happening more and more frequently.

What do you think? I can I can attest that the human fetal tissue research field is expanding. There's more demand for human fetal tissue research.

There are entire organizations in other countries that, you know, subsist on procuring and disseminating human fetal tissue to researchers, you know, and, you know, whatever you can write to them at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden, for example, you can write to them, tell them your research proposal is how what kind of fetal tissue you need, how often you need it, and they'll send it to you fresh on ice. Um, you know, so it's, it's, um, it's pretty horrible. It's, it's something that goes much, much, much deeper than, you know, oh, you know, there was one abortion in the 70s.

And that's, you know, that's the cells that are being used to test the COVID vaccines right now. And so, you know, then, then it really doesn't matter. I'm 50 years removed from it, you know, etc, etc. That's just not that's not the case at all. You know, there's researchers at the University of Pittsburgh, there's a big, you know, kind of had the cover blown off of the fetal tissue research they're doing there.

And I'm not going to go into all the groups and details of it, because it's horrible. And, and, you know, these, these things keep moms awake at night crying. You know, but there, there absolutely is a market for human fetal tissue in the United States at this time. There people think, you know, oh, why aren't there laws against this sort of thing? And well, there's, there might be some ethical guidelines on the books. You know, those keep getting relaxed, as we as we go on, you know, from from the Clinton era onwards. And, you know, that includes by President Bush as well, you know, so it's both sides of the fence, the Democrats and the Republicans, both have relaxed laws on these kinds of things. And there was an ethics committee that was set up in, I believe it was in 2019.

They met once in July of 2020. They reviewed 14 different proposals for fetal tissue research, they rejected 13 of them, because those did not meet their very, very, like, you know, not terribly stringent, in my opinion, ethical requirements, you know, in terms of, you know, the papers or their proposals justifying, you know, why they would need to use field tissue or making sure they obtained a proper consent, things like that. So 13 of those proposals were rejected, the there were about 64 organizations that got together and wrote a letter to President Elect Biden in January of 2021. And they said, Hey, you know, we'd like you to remove these, these restrictions. We'd like you to disband this ethics committee because it's having a chilling effect on scientific research. And so that ethics committee was disbanded, it no longer exists, and there's currently no oversight on fetal tissue projects in the United States in terms of an ethics committee, or anybody like actually looking to see if anybody is following any of the regulations that are that are, you know, technically on the books.

And a lot of those regulations are kind of like link and not regulations anyway. You know, where people can get around it by finding private funding, they can they can know there's a lot of ways to get around it. So unfortunately, I can I can definitely confirm your suspicion that this is more widespread and deeper and more horrific than most people realize. And I think I think there's a special hot place in hell for these people that do that.

Yes. And, you know, God's Word, the Bible is very, very clear. That's transgression, God's dominion, destroying his image. And that's a horrible, horrible thing.

And I and I look at these people at University of Pittsburgh, it's animals, I look at them as animals, anyone that would do such a thing. And so, anyhow, again, I truly believe there's special hot place in hell for those people. Just you know, just to think of that, john mcternan, do you want to comment? john mcternan. Are you there, john?

Yeah, I'm here. Do you want to comment on that? Yeah, it's a total disrespect of life, and that we're created in God's image. And of course, that means nothing to them.

They're, they're basically all of them, basically evolutionists. And so there's no fear of God, no respect for human life. So they can do anything that they want. They'll do it in the name of science. And they'll say, we're doing it to advance research to cure this disease and to do something else.

So I don't see them stopping it, Pastor Ernie, right now. Because they're, there is no reason in their mind to stop it. There's no difference between there's no difference between a human and any other animal in their thinking. Yeah, well, I think they take it even farther and think that humans are worse than other animals. You know, that seems to be a lot of what people people kind of say in the environmental movement and things like that they treat humans as their blight upon the earth.

So it goes even deeper, I think than than just equating humans with other animals. But at the same time, you know, the individuals that are that are, they're doing this, they have souls to save, just like us. And they might be in a lot worse, you know, regarding that right now than we are, but they definitely deserve our prayers. Because God can and has, and I know that you probably have experienced this in your own life, and of course, in scriptures, can take the worst sinners and turn them into the greatest things. Well, you can, but you know, there's got to be repentance before they can happen. And that's absolutely, absolutely. And I don't see with these people. Somebody's got to merit that grace for them.

That's why we have to pray for them. All right, you ready to open the phone lines and take some calls? Let's go ahead. Open up and let's take bring up cliff. Go ahead, Cliff.

Yeah, hi, Pamela. This idea of I'm a little bit curious about several things, but one of my main questions was I had heard one of your interviews on YouTube. And there was this idea of women getting a cesarean that were maybe eight, nine months pregnant, and giving up their child to take to extract their kidneys.

Now, I don't understand what what countries is this in multiple countries? Is this all these woman, the mentality, it's hard to believe a woman would carry a child for nine months, eight, nine months, and then give up the child in this format. You know, you could actually make money giving up the child for adoption, if you were looking to make money, like what are they doing to these women?

Sure. So I think you're filling in some blanks in in what what was said versus what was not said. So this was done, the delivery of babies for fetal tissue experimentation was done via cesarean section prior to about the 1970s, at which point they switched across the gland and abortions, which results in live delivery a lot of time. And these babies are actually usually around three to four months gestation, not around eight to nine months gestation.

So that's, that was something that I don't think I've made clear in other interviews. So when you're talking about a cesarean section abortion, you're not talking about an eight to nine month old baby that's, you know, just about to be delivered, and and would be, you know, otherwise, just, you know, placed with a foundling and, you know, for adoption or something like that. There, this is this is this was actually done, the cesarean section method of abortion was done on much younger babies. And it was done prior to newer methods of abortion that we would be more familiar with, in our day, there are the chemical abortions, and then they don't use the the abortions that involve forcibly using forceps to pull the baby out of the of the woman's womb, when they're doing fetal tissue research, because they want to make sure that the specimens are unmacerated, they're they're not cut or torn, because that would involve trauma to the tissues, which causes a lot of different changes in gene expression and changes in protein expression. And they also don't want to introduce any possible infection, they want the the tissue to stay sterile. So, um, you know, again, when you're talking about like, why, why would it Why would a woman choose to have an abortion?

Why is the question I can't answer? Um, but it's, it's, you know, maybe a little bit more understandable. Not understandable, in the sense that I would agree with it. But it is, you know, you're, you're not actually talking about women who are carrying for eight or nine months. And right. And the question is, what these particular sets of so called vaccines, what they submitted through this warp speed process, were they using what appears to be in them, such as the, what do you call it, the various chemicals that are alleged to be in the nanoparticles, such as the graphene oxide, the luciferase, was that within their trials?

Or did they subsequently add that to the product after they did not use them in the trial? You know, I'm here to talk about abortion and vaccines. And I can't comment on that. I don't have enough. All right. All right.

I've got to move on. But thanks, Cliff. Let's go to the Rick in Chicago. Hello, Rick, you're in the air.

Go ahead. Hi, um, I wanted to know what part of the child they use for these viruses. So there's three cell lines that are currently used in vaccine development, PRC six, WI, oh, I guess there's four, there's WI38, MRC5, and HEK293. And HEK293 is a kidney cell line. And then two of the others are lung. And there's one retina cell line. So they're using kidney tissue, lung tissue, and retina tissue to develop these cell lines. There's no chance they could use placenta or the... Oh, yeah. So, um, there's a... So you wouldn't have to use a newborn child's parts, leftover parts?

Right. So there's an organization called the John Paul II Research Institute in, in Washington, I think it's in Washington, DC. They're working on a cord blood cell line. So you could actually, you know, you could take blood from the umbilical cord, and you can actually get those cells to proliferate in culture. And you could use a totally ethical cell line. You could use adult cells. There's a lot of cancers, human cancer cell lines out there. There are a lot of human cell lines out there. Most of them are ethical.

The only human cell lines that I know of that are being used in vaccine development are actually aborted fetal cell lines. And, you know, again, why? I can't answer the why. It doesn't make sense from a moral perspective. Well, it does from a biblical perspective. They, what God loves the most, they hate the most. And all of those that hate God love death. And an innocent child, you know, the Lord said that their angels are before him continuously. And he said, woe unto those that harm a child.

You'd be better off to have a millstone which weighed 4,000 pounds and hung around your neck. They're just wicked. It's wickedness.

It's evil. And that's the reason, Pam, right there. All right. Thanks, Rick. We're coming up to a break here. And then afterwards, we'll take a few more phone calls if you're up to it. But let's go and take that break right now. We'll be back right after this with more.

And they support a woman's right to choose. Mommy, I wish you could call me once before I die. You show mercy to the ones that never show it and none to those that need it most of all. You've got the nerve to call yourself a Christian when you'll see a killer walk before you'll see a baby cry. Mommy, I wish you could tap my fingers and my toes and dress me up just one time in some little baby clothes. I wish you could see me smile or even hear me cry.

Mommy, I wish you could call me once before I die. Down through the years the churches have been known to make a stand. But now we see some churches bending to the will of man. They used to set a standard and they seldom let it down. Church used to change the man.

Now it's the other way around. How can you say I'm not alive when you can't feel me move? I'm not a thing to throw away, Mommy, I'm a part of you. I wish I could touch your heart to somehow change your mind.

Mommy, I wish you could call me once before I die. Alrighty, we are back and we have Pam Acker with us and Pam is an author and a biologist and Pam, one more time tell the folks how they can contact you with your questions. So our website is kolbecenter.org and there's a contact page on that on that website and if anybody has any further questions for me they're welcome to get a hold of me that way. Alright, the topic tonight is abortion and vaccines or the COVID vaccine if you will or vaccines in particular. Let's go out to Jeffers in Ohio. Hello Jeffers here and there. Hello. Hello, Pastor Ernie. Hello, John. Hello, Pam. Hello, how are you?

Yes, I'm doing great. I've been a listener to you guys for many years and it's my first time on the program. Do you have a question for Pam?

No, I was just reading about the Pelosi husband got charged with a DUI. You know what, I know that's that's not what we're talking about tonight. We have to stay on the topic that he cut it doesn't fit into the program tonight.

But listen, thanks for calling anyhow. Alrighty, let's go to yeah, alright. So we're back and we have Pamela Ackerman. Pam, again, it's a horrible thing to think about, just to think about the children, you know, what they're doing and that but you know, we got to talk about it and that's what we're doing. We're exposing that tonight and we're doing it from coast to coast. A little no little Lisa, she's got it. She wants to make a statement here.

Go ahead, Lisa. Okay, it says here that data from National Statistics in England reveal almost 530,000 vaccinated have died, including non COVID deaths between January 2021 and March 2022. A lot of what we get what we talk about here comes from Europe and other news sources because you know, you cannot trust the Western media at all. You can trust them to betray you and that's what they've been doing. Why do you think it is? Maybe you can't answer that, but there's such an anti-life bias and that fellow Jeffress, he mentioned Nancy Pelosi. To hear Nancy Pelosi say that because she is a good staunch Catholic, she believes in a woman's right to abortion to kill her child.

Where in the world do you think that comes from? Well, there's nothing there's nothing quite so bad as a bad Catholic. But yeah, so Miss Pelosi unfortunately doesn't represent any of the true beliefs of the Catholic faith. And you know to say that you believe in a woman's right to choose it. I mean, what does that even mean?

What are the terms mean? You know, like I believe in a woman's right to choose what flavor of ice cream she wants. But like, you know, I mean, you know, you can't you can't say that you believe in someone's right to choose whether to kill somebody else or not without seriously violating, you know, this man. So it's just... Well, you know, when they say that somewhere in the Constitution was emanations of a penumbra that said a woman's got a constitutional right to kill their baby.

And I looked all through the Constitution and read it from the first word to the last and it doesn't mention it. No, it's not in there. But let me ask you this here. Here's what else isn't in there. It's my body. It's my body.

Now listen, you know what? I had a mother I was born I wasn't her body. But they keep saying this like it is my body unless she's got what four arms, four legs, four eyes.

Right, right. It's not her body at all. It is actually a separate entity from the moment of conception. That baby has its own unique genetic signature. It has, you know, of course, if it's a boy, you know, obviously it's not her body. Because we do believe that, you know, you can tell the difference between a boy and a girl.

You know, at least we can. I don't think the Democrats can and they're their latest Supreme Court Justice can't. And they the AMA, the AMA said they didn't they didn't know how to do. They didn't know how to define the gender that has to do with chromosomes. But, you know, they'll have to figure the rest out on their own. But, but yeah, there's just no, there's no, you know, there's, there's no reason to take an innocent human life, because you don't feel like supporting that innocent human life.

If you don't want to get pregnant, don't do the things that make you pregnant. That's, that's your, that's your moment to choose. Um, you know, when people are going to want to say, Well, what about race? Well, what about this and that?

Well, what about, you know, whatever. And it's like, okay, so woman's been raped, that's a horrible violation. So you're going to go in and kill the baby that was conceived to be pregnant. And you're going to go in and kill the baby that was conceived during that, which is another horrible violation of her body and also murder.

That doesn't make her feel better. Well, you're right. But I get, like you said, you have someone who is perpetrated a crime, you want to take the innocent victim and kill the child. And that is that is insanity.

That's what that is. Yeah, well, it doesn't it doesn't fulfill any any justice. And it really doesn't actually take away the pain of the woman is that I think people think, Oh, well, well, how could she possibly, you know, deal with the situation and the pain of the situation and like, you know, you got to understand that that nothing happens in the world without, without God's consent. We believe in an all powerful God, right. And if we really believe that he's all powerful, we really believe that he actually like willed that baby to exist. If he didn't will that baby to exist, that baby wouldn't exist. And so if you will that baby to exist, it's not just for that baby's sake. It's also for its mother's sake. Well, there's a mindset out there that God has to conform himself. God has to conform himself to politically correctness or whatever there. I mean, there is this this mindset out there.

It tells you in Proverbs chapter two, or one, the Lord refers to it as simple mindedness. Let's go to Sally. Sally, you're in the air.

Or Solisio Solisio, you're in the air. Yeah, I was wondering, somebody not to take that and they said, well, if you take it, you know, the effects are less. They don't, they don't hurt you as much. I was wondering what would the nurse response would be to that? Could you hear him? He wanted to know, if you if you take up, if you you people take the poisonous poke, and, and some people say that, pardon, the clock shot, it's kind of my favorite, the clock shot.

That's a good Yeah, very good clutch shot. When, when you're told that it's not going to affect you, or some people say won't affect you. How do you how do you know if it's going to affect you or not? So you know, what the question is, when they when they respond that it's not going to the effects of the vaccine is not going to hurt you that much.

What would be your response? Is this going to kill them in the long run? So my response would be show me the data that demonstrates that. Show me the data. Show me the long term safety studies.

They can. It's been it's been less than two years. There's no evidence that this shot is not going to hurt you that much. All right, thank you. Let's go to Carolyn San Diego. Hi there. I'm so sorry for tuning in late. But I was at school board meeting tonight. But my question is, what about the shingle shot?

And maybe I missed you discussing this. Does it have any stem cells in it? So there's one version of shingles, the shingles shot that does use abortive fetal cells and the other does not. So the version that is unethical is Zostavax. It's produced by Merck. The version that is ethical, the one that that produced in hamster cells is Shingrix by GlaxoSmithKline. So if you get the shingles shot, which, you know, I don't necessarily recommend anyway.

But I'm not a doctor, so don't take my word for that. But if you if you do get it, you can ask for the ethical version, which is Shingrix. And if you forget that, that is posted on that Children of God for Life website that I mentioned earlier, that'll have all of the unethical versions of vaccines and any ethical alternatives. Great. And can you give us your website or that what you're referring to so that I can go to it? I'm so sorry too late.

Oh, no, you're good. So that that website is cogforlife.org. And they'll have a page.

It's under their their upload section. That's useful charts. It's the abortion tainted vaccines. And you can just download a one page PDF that has all of the data on that. They've got a separate page on all the COVID vaccines, the clock shots. Um, so that that that's a that's a separate page, but none of the ones that are available in the U.S. are ethical.

So, you know, and none of them are safe. You know, I wouldn't worry too much about that one. Thank you. Good night. All right. Thank you. Let's go to John in Minnesota.

You're in the air. Go ahead. Hello, Pam. I just want to express to you how I think you're probably in one of the hardest areas to work in Christian ministry. And I just I want to personally thank you for that. And I'm amazed at people like you.

So thank you for that. I want to ask you a question. In 2015, I sent a letter to the president of the University of Minnesota about field research. And he asked, he had it, he farmed it off to the director of research at the U of M. He sent me a very honest letter saying that they'd been doing it for quite a while. And they do use fetal research in that there's many other universities that do it, too.

And they go by the protocols that have been established, although he didn't define those, of course. But the whole the whole gist that I got out of the letter was that this is these guys are monsters. These people are monsters. And my question to you is, is this proliferating all through the country right now in other research universities like Rochester Mails near us in Minnesota? There's many other that we know are doing them. But is it is it a growing trend?

And if so, what can we do about it politically? Yeah, so it does seem to be an expanding thing. I couldn't give you a list of specifically which universities do and which universities don't, you would have to manually go through and come every single research paper that's published in every single lab. But the UK 293 cells, which are an aborted fetal cell line, the one that's getting so much press now with the COVID vaccines, those are used almost ubiquitously in various kinds of basic research. So I would think that almost every research university in the country is at least in possession of aborted fetal cell lines, if not currently engaged in human fetal tissue research. And in terms of what we do to stop that, I don't think anything is going to stop that until these cell lines are simply no longer available for use.

So unless we destroy them, and start over again, companies are going to continue to use them because they've developed those protocols that you were talking about, their procedures and their methods. I was actually pursuing a graduate degree at a Catholic university, and my advisor was unfortunately an atheist, and he didn't care that the church had ethical guidelines, and he started using aborted fetal cells on the project that I was working on, and that's why I don't have a PhD today, because I wouldn't do it. Well, God bless you for that. Well, thank you. He's left me a lot. You know, so I left that lab, but his justification for doing that was like, well, this is what's in the literature, we're under grant pressure, like, you know, sit down, shut up, check your ethics at the door, you're never going to be able to do science.

And I think, unfortunately, that's the ubiquitous attitude. John, I have to move on. Let's go to Pastor Hal.

Pastor Hal, you're in the air. Uh, you know, in the Old Testament, they worshiped the devil by killing babies. They had the babies scream and cry, and the more pain they gave the baby, the more they thought Satan would bless them for it, you know.

With pleasure. The more pain the babies suffered, they believed that the more sexual pleasure they would receive. Right, and that's exactly what you got today, you know, with these heathens out here that murder their own babies. These women that murder their babies, I can't understand why, if somebody murdered their baby, they'd get charged with murder, but when they murder their own baby, then, you know, they get a pat on the back from all the other murderers like them. I think anybody that has an abortion ought to get charged with murder. But as far as the invitation goes, how much time do I got for that, Pastor?

You've got plenty of time left yet. You've got, how much, okay, you've got about eight minutes, so you go ahead and use up a couple, or if you have a question for Pam, and then... Okay, they had a guy a few years ago that he murdered his wife who was pregnant, and they charged him with, the state charged him with two counts of murder, her and the baby, and it just, it's incredible how they would charge him with murder, any woman could kill her own baby, and they all of a sudden act like it's a lifeless thing that, you know, you can do things with and not get charged with murder, you know, and I can't understand that, but anyway, it's a form of state worship, and that's, these people got to realize they're doing exactly what the devil wants them to do when they kill a baby that was made in the image of God. That's exactly what Satan wants them to do, and, you know, they're without natural affection, and that's one of the signs of the last times before the Lord comes back again, when a woman could kill her own baby, and actually glory in it and everything, that's madness, that's pure insanity, and she needs to be, they could give these people the electric chair as far as I'm concerned, you know, that would do something like that, and I don't know how you feel about it, but... All right, well, let her tell you, and then you have to give the invitation. At this, this is the most important part of the program, Pam, is when we give an invitation, invitation for people to call upon the name of the Lord and receive Christ as a Savior, but did you have a, did you want to respond to all of that? I pray every day for the women who have chosen abortion, that they will repent and find mercy in God's grace, like the rest of us have, and I pray every day for the women who are tempted to abortion, because they feel desperate and scared that they won't do it, that someone will come and help them, so that they don't feel like this is the only choice that they have, and that's the last thing I'm going to say tonight. Well, you said it very, very well, and I thank you very much. God bless you.

Go ahead, and Pastor Howe, give that invitation. Okay, everybody out there listening to this show tonight, you've got a soul that's going to spend eternity either in heaven or in hell, and God shows you how you can go to heaven. I mean, there's a lot of different religions out there, there's people telling you different ways that, you know, you can get to heaven, but God is the one that actually knows, and it's like I tell these truck drivers, if you want to go from here to Boston, you might ask 20 people and get 20 different answers, but if you're smart, you're going to look at the road atlas, and the road atlas is going to tell you how to get there. Well, God's road atlas to heaven is the Bible, that King James Bible, and he says right there that, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

The unborn again happens when you go to God and you, by faith, ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart and be your Savior. You know, God let Jesus die on the cross and pay the payment for your sins and mine, because he knew we couldn't pay for those payments. One sin to keep you out of heaven, and we sinned every day of our lives in thought, word, or deed, so we got to get those sins washed away, and the only thing that does it is the blood of Jesus, what Jesus did for us on the cross. The Bible says in whom we have redemption through his blood, not through the city's water system, not through some church or church leaders, not through some Pope giving you or priest giving you absolution and all this other stuff.

Now, it wasn't them that died for you on the cross. It was Jesus Christ. He said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.

That's John 14, 6. It wasn't Mary. It wasn't Peter. It wasn't Paul.

It wasn't your Uncle John or Aunt Mary. And it was Jesus Christ. And it's a free gift. That's what really got me when I was brought up a Lutheran. I thought you had to work your way to heaven, just like most Catholics think that.

But the thing is, it's a free gift. Ephesians 2, 8, and 9 says, for by grace are you saved through faith and not of yourselves. It's a gift of God. Jesus did all the work to get us to heaven, and then he said, it is finished. That means all the work necessary for us to get to heaven, he did for us. And he's telling us that that was accepted by God the Father as payment in full for us to get to heaven.

But that payment doesn't become ours automatically. John 1, 12 says, but as many as received him to them gave you the power to become the sons of God. You have to believe that Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood in your place for your salvation, and then pray and ask him to come into your heart in simple childlike faith, and he'll do it. And Revelation 3, 20 says, behold, I stand at the door and knock.

If any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come into him. That means right now while I'm talking to you, God hears me talking to you right now, and he knows what's going through your mind and through your heart right now. You could be the worst sinner that ever lived, but the blood of Christ can wash away all your sins. Or you can be the best person to ever walk the face of the earth, but one sin would still keep you out of heaven.

It's when you come to God and say, God, you know I'm a dirty, rotten, lousy, stinking sinner, and I hear now ask you to come into my heart and say to me that he does that. Jesus said that except you repent, you shall all likewise perish. And that's admitting something to God that he knows already anyway, that we need his salvation.

We need his blood atonement. So if you want to receive salvation through Jesus Christ tonight, he hears me talking to you right now. And if you pray and ask him to come into your heart, he said in Romans 10, 13, for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. So if you'd like to do that with God watching you and knocking at the door of your heart right now, let's pray.

I'll lead you a few words at a time if you'd like. So even though we're praying together, it's directly between you and God. He said, Dear God, I know I'm a sinner and I need your forgiveness. Lord, I believe you died on the cross and shed your blood for my salvation. And I hear and now, Lord Jesus, ask you to come into my heart. Forgive me for all my sins and save my soul. I'm trusting you right now, you and you only, for my salvation. And I thank you for saving me. In Jesus' name, I pray this.

Amen. Now, if you just prayed that prayer, 1 John 5, 13 says, These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. It's a free gift that God gave you the moment you sincerely asked him to come into your heart and sorry about the fact you're a sinner. And when he said believe on, that didn't say believe about. Even the devil believes about that, you know, that Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood to save your soul. But the devil didn't want you to reach out and receive it. It's like if you were out in the ocean drowning somebody through your life preserver. You could believe if you reached out and received it, it would save you. But unless you reached out and received it, you'd still drown as if it was a million miles away. And that's why receiving Jesus is what gets you saved. Not just knowing about him, but receiving him, receiving the payment he paid for you on that cross.

So according to God's promise and your prayer, if you were sincere, when you prayed that if you died right now, you know, you can know you have eternal life because God made you a promise and he cannot lie. Good pastor. All right. Very good.

I think you you said it. I wanted to make a couple very quick announcements. They're doers of the word. We will not have an evening service. We're going to have baptism and there will be a church picnic after the morning service and also Saturday at 10 a.m. All you doers of the word, we need the cleanup crew to come on out at the pavilion and pull some maintenance, some cleanup work out at the pavilion. And so there you go. That's this week. Doers of the word Baptist Church.

There will not be an evening service. And so and so we're at that time where we get here every night where we sign off by saying good night. God bless.

And always, always, always you ready? Let's get it done. Keep fighting the fight.

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