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Coming to you live from Independence, Ohio. We change our life for the better in many different ways. Heard around the world every Monday through Friday. Pastor Sanders is always years ahead of the rest of the media telling you exactly what they're covering up.

This is What's Right, What's Left. I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world.

A lot of the other news media don't pick up the news items like he does. And bring into light the enemies of freedom who are out to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. Guess what, Lenny, we've got an echo.

Get that, get that echo. Find it. Hunt it down, Lenny. Okay, Lenny's on the board tonight. And tonight we have with us, well, this is the voice of the Christian resistance on this Wednesday, the March 2nd, 2022. And tonight we have with us here Sarah Cavouras, who is a very well-known attorney, and Brian Kirk. Welcome to the program.

Thank you, Pastor Sanders. Brian, why is your name so familiar to me? You know, I believe I was on your show maybe 30 years ago when I was asked to get Right to Life in Cleveland. And Janet Folger, now Porter, was a good friend of mine, and I think she probably had me come in and meet you. And I'm so glad to hear your voice.

You sound just like you did 30 years ago. Yeah, well, that's it. I remember, in fact, Jan Porter just texted me no more than an hour ago. Oh, wow. She's got a big event coming up here on the 12th of March, March 12th, Saturday.

It's a big breakfast, and so I'll be promoting that with her. But, yeah, I remember. And I spoke at, and you spoke at, and now it's all coming into me. We spoke at a number of events together over the years. I believe you're correct. Yeah. I've been on the air now for 50 years. That is really awesome.

Yes. And as soon as I heard the name, because I do whatever Sarah tells me to do, she said, you know, get ready for a phone call at around 10. And I didn't know it was going to be you, so this is a pleasant surprise. It is.

It's good to have you. Now you can't stay away so long at this time. Well, that's true. We always start this radio program out, and we always end it with the Word of God.

And do you know why? Because there is nothing that ever existed that is as certain as God's Word. And that's why we always start there. Everything else, in fact, according to God Himself, everything else is going to pass away, but His words will never pass away. And so we're going to start here tonight in Isaiah chapter 32. Now, he's talking about a time, now this was written 2800 years ago, and over 28, and he's talking about a time that's going to be both contemporary and yet future.

And so, you know, we go through here, you guys in my class tonight, so maybe I'll just kind of ask you some questions and quiz you a little bit as we go. Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and a princess shall rule in judgment. And a man shall be as a hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest, as rivers of water in a dry place, and as a shadow of a great rock in a weary land. So now, he's talking about a place, this is what he's talking about, is during the millennial reign of Christ, and as we see here, it says that he's going to be, and a man shall be as a hiding place to whom there's only one person that this fits, this description, from the wind, and a covert from the tempest, as the rivers of water in a dry place, and as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land. So that only applies to the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords Messiah. So, when this is written, and he says, In the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.

What do you think that means? Oh, boys. Well, he's talking about, Go ahead.

Sorry, go ahead. He's talking about understanding the discernment of the times we're living in. Now listen to this, and see if this does not apply to today, Lord. And he goes, The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly. So, when he's talking about that, the heart of the rash, what do you think he meant there? The Antichrist, perhaps.

No, when he says the heart of the rash. You know, there are people that are spontaneous. They do things without a lot of planning, a lot of thinking.

They're, like, impetuous, and they move. Sometimes they leap before they look, and shall understand knowledge. So he's talking about that the heart, they're going to understand what's before, what has happened at the time. Now, this is during the millennial reign of Christ.

And the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly. You know, there are people, I knew a fellow once one time, he really, his heart, he wanted to be a preacher. He wanted to be a preacher with all of his heart. And he was just, he would get up and he would start to preach and he would start stuttering. And, you know, he would sit there and the more he started, the worse he would get when people started getting frustrated. And I felt bad for the fellow, but now he learned he was an excellent teacher, Bible teacher in the structure, as long as he kept within that and he could speak to that.

But when he tried to preach, it was terrible. And so, but here he says, and shall be ready to speak plainly. Have you ever had it been the time when you knew what you're trying to say? You're trying to convey something to someone and you know what you mean, but you can't find the right words for that?

Of course you can. That's happened to us. Now, listen to this. See if this verse does not apply for today. Now, the vile person shall be no more called a liberal, nor the churrel said to be bountiful. Now, he's talking about the word vile means someone that is repulsive to God, someone that's a repulsive person, repulsive to God, that just prior to the days of the Lord's return, that person, the vile person, a person that's repulsive to God will be called a liberal. Now, at the time that this was written, the connotation on the word liberal was positive. Liberal was someone who was generous with their own property, generous with their own money and their food. Today, liberal is someone who's generous with other people's property, other people's, and especially other people's liberties and freedoms.

Now, when the Lord sets up his kingdom, that's going to change. That word liberal will go back to meaning what it meant before with a positive connotation, but prior to that, and that's exactly the dates we're living in today, if I say, if I say, well, that person's a liberal, you're going to think, well, that person's pro-abortion, that person's pro-sodomy. These are all things that a liberal, you know, calls to themself. That person is going to be generous, you know, with my property, but not with their own, you know. And so, a vile person shall be no more called a liberal, nor the churrel, nor the churrel was a word for miser, miser, and again, today that applies. There are people today that are out there, boy, they're just making, they're giving fun to all these different, burn, loot, murder, antifa, and all these different so-called causes, but it's not none of their money. They always find, the liberal always finds a way to tap into taxpayers' hard-earned money. They always, they're, you know, they're, they remind me of, well, I was going to say buzzards in a way, but, or parasitical, they're more parasitical.

Parasitical always seemed to be eating away at healthy things from the inside, destroying it from the inside. And he said, nor the churrel said to be bountiful, for the vile person will speak villainly, and his heart will work iniquity to practice hypocrisy. Oh my. Did you guys listen, watch the speech last night for Mr.? I couldn't.

You did, wow. Well, no, I couldn't yesterday, I did not want to watch, I watched the Republican response, but since I knew we were talking about this today, I just watched it through a recording, and there in La La Land. Didn't that, didn't that, didn't that just make you feel so proud when, when Joe Obama said that we're, we are going to secure our southern border, and the confidence there was unremarkable. When Joe Obama says we're going to have things made in America, and we're going to become America in energy, independent, boy, did that give me trust.

Right. How long have they been saying this? And it just, it just made me, my heart go out when he, he said, we're going to fund the police, not defund the police. All of these things, it seems like, well, it wasn't very long ago at all that he was totally against all of those, in fact, he still is. Well, what I noticed is when he repeated we're going to fund the police several times, the camera was not on AOC or any of the other members of the squad. Interesting.

Yeah. Now, what a contrast that was here the last time President Trump, a real president, a real president, a man that they kept his promises, who actually worked for America and not for the deep state. The last time he was in, nasty Pelosi was sitting behind him, tearing up his speech, in total disrespect, and when she did that, not only did she disrespect the president, she disrespected all of those of us that voted for him. And, but you know what? By God's grace, that's the last time we'll see her sitting there behind the president.

Amen to that. What was she doing with her hands? She was twitching.

Yeah. And I didn't understand why. And VP Harris looked at her and looked back.

I think she was as confused as everybody else was. What was that about? Well, you have two La La Landers there. I mean, you know, I hate to use that word dingbat, but some of the things that I've heard those two say, I mean, I would just thank the good Lord that I'm not married to someone like that. I mean, those two, you know, we had at a pastor's conference a few years back, we had, and I couldn't believe it, one of the men there who, he travels the world and he films things, and I'm just having one of my senior moments right now. I didn't take my prejudice, but he filmed Nancy Pelosi and one of those sodomite parades in San Francisco.

And if you would have saw this, I wish I could have had that and made people look at that. That wicked woman stood right next to two completely naked sodomite men, sodomizing each other, standing right out in broad daylight, and she's standing there within a foot of these two, and she's telling them, Jesus would be very happy with the way that you men show love for each other. Oh my gosh.

And that's what the doubt, so when I say dingbat, I mean, now here's a woman who calls herself a Christian. Let's see, let's see if I can remember right. Who was it that brought judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah? That's right, it was God, wasn't it? Right, yeah. And was that judgment pretty harsh? Oh yeah. It kind of shows you that God doesn't have a very high regard for sodomy, does he?

No. But Nancy Pelosi does. She's got a tremendous and unbelievable, so anyhow, let's go back to what he was saying here. He said the instruments, let me see, okay, yeah, and his heart will work iniquity to practice hypocrisy. So he's saying that prior to the Lord's return to set up his millennial kingdom, people, the liberal, the liberal of today, will practice hypocrisy. Are we seeing this prophecy being fulfilled precisely before our eyes?

Absolutely. So he'll practice hypocrisy and to utter error against the Lord. Oh, they don't seem to like God too much, do they? No, and you saw perhaps our resident in chief was asked about his Catholic faith and how he reconciles that with abortion today, and boy, Jill just grabbed him away from the reporter.

Yeah, I'd like to... I did not see that, Brian. When was that?

That was this afternoon. I think he came back from a service and had the ashes, and some reporter, I'm not sure who it was, a female reporter asked, how do you reconcile this with your Catholic faith? And, you know, he had a non-answer, and then Jill rescued him. Well, you know, I've got to tell you this, that I'm not very well impressed with people like Cardinal Dolan there in New York and others that say, well, you know, people that take that stand according to the articles of the Catholic Church, well, they're not supposed to be in the Catholic Church, okay? But I remember him saying, when they asked about Governor Cuomo, why isn't he excommunicated?

And I remember watching Cardinal Dolan and Governor Cuomo hitting elbows, they were like playing a little game together, doing this little dance or whatever. And that's why I don't think it would do any good. You know, that is hypocrisy, to take a stand and hear. But here's the problem within the Catholic Church, if you've got enough money and power, you don't have to worry about it. It's only the people that aren't wealthy and powerful that have to worry about being excommunicated.

That's just the way it is. That's not just true with the Catholic Church, isn't that true with politics? We've got a class of elite politicians who can do anything, make rules for everybody else, don't follow it. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Well, look... I mean, talk about Mike DeWine and his coterie. Well, you know... Well, let's just take a look at what you have with Hillary Clinton. You know, one of the things that Hillary Clinton and Vladimir Putin have in common is they know how to disappear people, people that could cause them a problem, they know how to make them go away.

And if you have enough money behind you, like the way they do, you don't have to worry about ever being prosecuted. That's just the way it's been. And with the deep state here, this is why people have lost, today, the country, they've lost all confidence.

And I hate to say it, but, you know, Sarah, people have really... The judicial system in this country has taken a huge, huge hit when it comes to believability and confidence. When they refused, when they refused to hear those cases on voter fraud and election fraud, when they refused, well, across the board, not to even hear it. In other words, they said, we're not going to do our job. You think that we want to have burn, loot, and murder or antifa on our doorstep?

No. We're not going to stand up and do our job. We're just going to bow down. They've lost. They lost so much. So much confidence was lost. You talk to people out there like I do every day, and I can tell you, it's the same thing with all of the doctors that went along with big pharma, encouraging people to take the poisonous poke, and people are dying left and right from that. And now the confidence.

I have people calling all over people that I'm hearing from whose doctors have advised them to go ahead and take the shot. They no longer have any trust in those doctors, and they're looking for new ones. Well, because their God is the almighty dollar, right?

Yeah, that's it. That's the problem in this country. But with the courts, I do want to say something specifically. The courts have no armies. They have no marshals or any other power but their word, their judgments, their decisions. And if there is a lack of credibility, if there's a lack of integrity in that process, they've lost their ability to garner support, right?

Absolutely. You have to believe that the process is fair for any decision to have any weight, and if they don't look at issues, if they don't take on cases that make a difference in society immediately, then they've lost a chance to show how powerful they can be, right? They are one-third of the government. They're not supposed to be the most powerful part, but they are a check and balance to the other two parts of government. That's what they're meant to do. You're right. And when they failed to do their job, when they failed to hear the cases and the election fraud, they lost credibility, a tremendous amount of credibility. And we lost our checks and balances, as the founders had originally and brilliantly created, right? You know?

Yep, you're right. It's cowardly. It is cowardly.

And we lost a president that, I mean, I hope that he comes back stronger than ever, but time will tell. Okay, I'm going to finish this scripture because we're running up. It says, And the instruments also that churl are evil. He devises wicked devices and destroyeth the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.

But the liberal devises liberal things, and by liberal things shall he stand. Rise up, you women that are at ease. Hear my voice, you careless daughters, and give ear to your speech. Many days and years shall be troubled, you careless women.

Now, he's directing this here to the women, but this actually applies to everyone here. For the vintage should fall, and the gathering shall not come. Tremble, you women that are at ease.

Be you troubled, you careless ones. Strip you and make you bare, and gird sackcloth upon your loins, and they shall lament for their teats, for the pleasant fields, and for the fruitful vine. What he's telling them there is that he's directing that towards the women that are wealthy, these wealthy women, and around them there are people living in poverty and people that could need help and they could care less. It's like when Amos was talking about the cows' abation, those women who would force their husbands to take things away from the needy and the wealthy to give to them because they wanted to appear wealthy and powerful. And so this is what he's telling because they're not paying attention to the Word of God, they're thinking only about themselves, and boy are they in for a rude awakening.

We're going to have to stop it right there, and we're going to go to a quick break and we'll be back right after this. I had this crazy dream about some folks who love this country who all began to dream the same dream. And when the morning came there arose across this nation people thinking one and the same. And they awoke to find their freedoms and all their liberties had gradually been taken away. And when they realized the danger to their posterity I heard those patriotic people say, We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.

She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. I remember golden days when the stars and stripes forever symbolized her glorious name, America. But now it's all been changed, and when we gaze upon old glory it's hard to fight back feelings of shame. We're wrapped with lying politicians and greedy corporations who have sold us out time and again. And we're sick and tired of sending our soldiers off to wars that we were never meant to wear. We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.

She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Now we know our cause is right and our victory's on the way, and we won't give up the fight till we hear 200 million say. We want this country back.

We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back. And we ain't taking anymore back. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now, and we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it. Some of us haven't been. We've been pushing back for over 50 years and we're gonna continue to push back until the Lord takes us out of here.

But we're not gonna take it. Right, Brian? Right, Sarah?

Amen, brother. All right, I gotta give a couple quick commercials, okay, if you guys will bear with me. And then we're gonna talk about Sarah and what's going on. She's running for her. I'm running for the 11th District Court of Appeals in Northeast Ohio.

It's been a public judge. Sarah, you gotta talk right into the phone. Can you talk right into the receiver? Can you hear me better now, Pastor?

Yeah, but still not very loud. Okay, I'm taking it off speaker. I hope this helps. I am running for the 11th District Court of Appeals, which is the appellate court in Northeast Ohio that covers five counties, Lake, Portage, Geauga, Ashtabula, and my own, which is Trumbull. And I am running in a Republican primary against a liberal. And he's a Republican liberal and he has voted against the Heartbeat Bill, against Stand Your Ground, and that's after promising and meeting with representatives of Buckeye Firearms stating that he would vote for Stand Your Ground.

He has been soft on convicted criminals, and Brian can give you a little bit more information on that, as well as a slew of other liberal legislation that he has attempted to pass. Brian, you want to speak to some of the issues that you're passionate about? Well, yeah, Pastor, is this a commercial break coming up? Let me give one very quickly here, for the Agape Christian Academy is holding an open house on Tuesday evening, March 8th, from 5.30 to 8.30 p.m. at its campuses. Parents and children are invited to attend and meet our teachers and our staff and see our classrooms and gain insight as you consider the many benefits of a Christian education for your children. Learn more about your small class sizes and academically rigorous curriculum with a biblical worldview, academic intervention programs, and ambassadors for Christ in sports and teams and local and international ministries, college credit courses, and a loving environment. The school serves students at two campuses, the Burton Campus House and the preschool through fourth grade students, and it's located at 14220 Clarendon Troy Road in Burton, just a few miles north of the Burton Square. The Troy Campus houses fifth grade through high school, and it's located at the intersections of Routes 700 and 422 in Troy. For more information, you can visit the school's website at www.agapecca.com or call Susan Gifford at 440-834-8022. Sarah and Brian, I've known Russ and Sue Gifford for years. In fact, we helped them get started when they opened the school, I think, about 20 years ago.

And it is, I praise the good Lord. You know, Brian, I don't know if you remember, but I was one of the pioneers of homeschooling here in Ohio back in the early 70s. I do. Yeah, myself, well, actually, Martha Lippett was the lady that really was the impetus behind it. When the ACLU got after her, remember, she had a one-room schoolhouse, and the ACLU got after her because she had a Bible on her desk.

Who would have ever thought? And the Ten Commandments on the law, she called me, we put her on the air, and we started a battle. We started promoting homeschooling, and it started growing and growing and growing. But homeschooling, and we helped several Christian schools get started, too. And they work with homeschoolers, and Sue and Russ are two great folks, and they really love your kids.

And you don't have to worry about all of this transgender stuff and all this other stuff that takes place, these drag queens and all of this ungodly stuff that takes place in the public fool system out there, folks. If you love your children, get them out of that public school system. Yeah, my grandchildren all go to Christian monastery schools, and it has been an amazing atmosphere. It's not just the schools or the teachers, it's the parents who are there. Yeah, that's where my grandchildren go to hear, to copy.

But now listen to this. Do you know what's coming up? You know about the Northeast Ohio Conservative Club Lincoln Day Dinner, right? That's Saturday, March 12th?

Yes. And you're going to have a number of people there. Keynote speakers are Jim Monacy, Joe Knapp, Sarah Thomas-Kavor, Mike Gibbons, Josh Mendel, Jane Tempkin, and more.

I have one of my senior ladies running for Congress and more that are running out there. Bevin attended a church, our church, so anyhow, that's going to take place there, and it starts at 6 p.m., and tickets are $50 apiece. Now, for more information, you can call Mario. Say, Hello, Mario, at 216-520-1977.

216-520-1977. Just tell him pastor said to call you, Mario. And now we have one other thing that's happening that same day, and on that same day, no, not that same day, the day before, by the way, they've asked me to open that up that night, so Lord's willing I'll be there to open that up. You have our dear friend, Jen Porter, she is going to have on the, that's going to be the 11th, and she has asked if I could come to that, but I've already made a commitment, but she's going to have her day, which is going to be a Faith to Action breakfast with David Barton, and that's Friday, March 11th. Yeah, and that's Friday, March 11th, at the Weymouth Country Club, and anyhow, she's asking me if I could come. I can't be at two places at once, because I've already committed to being there at Molly's, bringing America back to life. And so, that is going to be Friday the 11th, March 11th, and David Barton, and Jen Porter, and I'm trying to give you more, and that's at Weymouth Country Club at 3946 Weymouth Road in Medina, Ohio. And, Jen is saying, get some tickets, get some tickets, and I'm looking for, and I'm trying to, well I'll just go ahead and get her tickets of $30, or $60 a couple, and you can get a table for $8 for $240 for a table of $8 to reserve your table, so for March.

Okay, so, you can go up on the internet to F2A, that's the letter F, the number 2A.org, that's F2A, Faith to Action, the letter F, the number 2, the letter A.org, and you can order your tickets that way. Alright, now... Do you see a lot of Christian conservatives running in political elections throughout the country now? Yeah, I do. Yeah, there's a lot of them, in fact... Why do you think that there's this resurgence or emergence?

Well, I know why. A lot of them are scared to death, they're seeing what happened, they could not believe, you know, because they were asleep for so long, and a lot of these people didn't realize, the parents didn't realize what their children were being taught in school until the COVID thing came, and the kids came home. This critical race theory, where they're teaching the children to be ashamed if you're white. You should go home and tell your parents they should be ashamed for being white. Or that you're a victim if you're black.

You know, it's teaching children to categorize other children based on the color of their skin. Well, you know what, that reminds me of something, because I'm a little suspicious of you. You're running for judge, and I heard Joey Biden say that, well, he's nominated chimpanzee Jackson Brown for judge, because she's a black woman. And so, I mean, you're not black. You know, I know, how do we do that?

I'm trying to think of, I mean, like, so what's the next... I would never want any position where there's any power, whether it's my surgeon, my dentist, my accountant, my lawyer, based on their ethnicity or their race. I think qualifications and their skill set is the most important thing. If that's there, then, you know, and everything else is equal, then they can determine what they want, but I would never start a search with a particular ethnicity. I think it's... You know, Morgan Freeman said, if you want to stop racism, stop talking about race. Well, you know, here's the thing, Sarah, no matter what, whether this woman's qualified, and I know Biden would never nominate her if she was pro-life, if she was the type of person that I would consider a clean person, because, you know... Right, if she was a black Amy Barrett, she wouldn't be nominated.

Absolutely, but see, but think about this. She'll, even, it doesn't matter if she was, just say that she was a righteous person. It doesn't matter, because if she does get the nomination, then she'll probably be well, because we've got some spineless, spineless, spineless Republicans out there like Lindsey Graham that will, they'll bend down, they'll sell out. Anyhow, but she'll be known... If you want to talk about spineless Republicans, Brian should tell you what he's had to deal with spineless Republicans in the Ohio Senate.

Oh, yeah. Well, she'll be known, Brian, that woman will be known, that's all she'll be known for, her entire time in there, as she got there, because she was a black woman. That's the only reason that she was appointed, because she was a black woman. Whether she's qualified or not, that's what she'll be known for.

I wouldn't want that. That's the curse of affirmative action. In fact, Clarence Thomas does not hang up his Yale degree, because he thinks it's worthless, because every time someone sees it, they assume he's an affirmative action beneficiary.

It disgusts him. Can I say something? You mentioned Janet Porter's event, and it's funny, because I was going to mention David Barton, because we were talking about the judicial branch is co-equal, and there's three branches. And it was David Barton's book, The Myth of Separation, that taught me, and I believe it's Isaiah 33, 22, which says, I'm the Lord God your king, the Lord your lawgiver, and the Lord your judge. That inspired French philosopher Montesquieu to come up with the doctrine of the separation of powers, which informs our Constitution.

So that's a tidbit I learned from David Barton, and I also learned so much from you, Pastor, and also Janet Porter, so this is a beautiful time that I'm spending with you. Let me give you the real quick rundown. In 2015, my grandmother was murdered, and in 2018, the juvenile offender, who was her killer and also attempted rapist, was sentenced to life without parole by a Democrat judge, W. Wyatt McKay, in Trimble County. And in 2021, I learned that Ohio passed a new bill called Senate Bill 256, which retroactively gives juvenile offenders, like cop killers, rapists, and my grandmother's murderer, it retroactively gives these offenders a parole hearing every five years. And it's after they serve a minimum of, in my grandmother's case, he needs to serve 18 more years, and then my family gets to defend our safety every five years for the rest of our life. Thanks to Mike DeWine and a so-called Republican Senate where a fellow named John Eklund, who happens to be the opponent of Sarah, referred to my grandmother's murderer and others like him as, quote, some of the most potential laden human beings we have in our state. So that's my particular issue that has me fired up since April of last year.

Well, I can understand that. Let me just say this, too. If I were the king, if I were the king, and my words were law, the very first people I would send to prison for life would be the abortionists. They would be the very first. But after them would be the Ohio State Parole Board. They would be very next on the line.

That's wonderful for you to say that because let me tell you why. Here you had, in most cases, you have juries hearing these cases. There are convictions. There's a judge who has heard this case, the facts, the witnesses, the victims that are left, like the family members here, and they decide the crime is so heinous, and the perpetrator is so irredeemable. That life would stop parole is the just punishment. Now, with the Republican Senate, led by, at that time, former state Senator John Eklund, with this HB 256, making it retroactive, and a ban against life without parole, who's going to decide? Parole Board. In 10, 15, 20 years, you don't know who's going to be on there, how much time they're going to be able to review a case, how much time do you think they're going to understand the facts or, you know, what the reasons were for the conviction?

They're not. They're going to have a few minutes to review these cases and make decisions that impact not only the families of the deceased victim, but the community at large. And it's a very dangerous thing.

Yeah, I would say so. You know, you have our judicial system, our prison system, Department of Corrections, is in really bad shape. There's so much corruption, it's just unbelievable, the amount of corruption that most people don't know. It seems like, you know, when I was a young man, I used to go early into prison ministry some 45 years ago when, you know, I went to, I was upon death row for 45 years, I would minister up there, and I know a number of the men that they were executed were innocent. At least three. And that's three too many. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't seem like in our judicial system that really guilt or innocence really means much anymore.

It's how you play the game and how you perform. In fact, I remember, I remember walking out of an elevator, I was in the courtroom, one of my men, his name was Danny at the time, he was in prison for killing a guy, and long story short, these two, they lived in the same house. His family and their family is a two-family house, and they got into an argument. Now, Danny weighed about 160 pounds, the other fellow weighed about 260 pounds, and after they had an argument, the other guy came up behind him and jumped him from behind and had him down on the ground on his stomach and he was choking him. Danny managed, he had a fishing knife, a small fishing knife, and he managed to get it out and he, you know, poked up under his arm, he tried to lift his arm and just kept poking, hoping he could poke this guy, and he poked him, got a poke right to the heart. And there were witnesses to watch the whole thing. To make a whole long story short, you know, that that should have been against self-defense, but it wasn't. And I remember at the court when Danny was found guilty of not first-degree murder or second-degree manslaughter or whatever, I think it was, walking out, the two lawyers, the defense attorney and the prosecutor, and the defense attorney is saying to him, he was innocent, you know it, and the prosecutor says, sure he was, but a win's a win. Let's go to lunch. And I was right behind him, okay?

And not only was I right behind him, but Danny's. See here, you don't understand. The way you get, see George Soros understands, he has a shopping list of prosecutors, okay? And he says these are the ones that we send out. Now, these prosecutors have to be prostitutes at the same time.

They have to be willing to prostitute themselves. And so he sends out a shopping list, and he buys them, he'll buy them away to attorney generals and to be major prosecutors in your major cities out there. That's our corrupt judicial system out there today.

This is why people have lost so much confidence in it. Well, I have to say that Trumbull County prosecutor's office, I worked there for years, is the model prosecutor's office. I think they really try hard, and I think Brian would agree because his grandmother was murdered in Trumbull County. They have actually gone against John Eklund because they find that the legislation that he's championed is dangerous. I mean, TJ Lane is a case in Chardon, and this was a few days ago, was the 10th anniversary of that school shooting. And Eklund tried to get legislation in where TJ Lane could have been paroled. It didn't pass, but he tried by making an exception to the Life Without Parole ban, which is if it's serial murderers limited to two or three or more.

Three or more. And that didn't work, so TJ Lane cannot have Life Without Parole, but he tried. It doesn't make anybody feel safer in Chardon.

Or anywhere else in that matter. Yeah, no, I think they called it the TJ Lane exception because they knew that if he could ever come up for a hearing, that the bill would probably fail. So they made sure to lock him up forever, but not everyone else. But he's the one who also tried to escape from prison, too.

That's true, that's true. The prosecutors now that I'm really worried about are the ones who don't want to prosecute cases. They're more interested in prosecuting police, first responders, than going ahead and filing charges against people who commit crimes.

Those are your sorrows bought and paid for, installed. He's bought and paid for and installed them all over the country. We've been telling you for years, I've been here on this radio program telling you that he has been paid, bought, and if you look at their campaigns that they had, all the money that was put in there, George Sorrows, up to half a million dollars in some of those to get some of those prosecutors in office. One of the biggest jokes was the Suffolk County, Massachusetts prosecutor.

I don't know why she should have been a public defender, not a prosecutor. Yeah, well, yeah, see, that's the whole point. It's crime. These people are corrupt.

The entire deathocratic communist collective is corrupt, completely corrupt. You know, they're involved. Here, see, Brian, I can tell you this, that the Biden crime cartel works hand in hand with the drug cartels on the southern border, the Mexican drug cartels, and those that are human smugglers. The Biden crime cartel works hand in hand with them. Now, you know who said that?

They did. And so there you go. They work hand in hand. And it's known. I mean, it's not like it's a secret. So these are the days we're living in. The corruption is out there. It's in your face.

It's all over the place. It is and imagine I'm a lifelong Republican. I used to work for the Ohio GOP.

And here was a democrat judge and a democrat prosecutor who did the right thing in Trumbull County, and my own Republican Party that undid 42 months of hard work with some feel good, do good or misguided bill. So it is upside down. And I'm glad you brought up Isaiah 32. I took notes because I think that describes what's going on perfectly. It sure does. Boy, it does. Yeah.

And if you want to add to that, take it to 2 Timothy, Chapter 3, and it'll pick it up from there perfectly. I don't know if it's just misguided either. I think you're giving way too much credit to these legislators. Thank you.

Because there's no conviction. There's no consistency, at least in some of the things I've seen. We're coming up to a hard break. So hang in right there, folks. We'll be back. We've got a whole lot more to come. So don't go away. What do we got?

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