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I know I know that, Claudia, I'm sure I do. But uh She's supposed to get like a real applause here, like A real big applause.

Okay. There you go.

She deserves a big applause. All righty.

Now, what do we got tonight, Je John? We have Uh tonight. Was Karl Marx a Satanist? By Wichard Rembrandt. Richard was the guy that wrote the book Remember Torture for Christ.

uh and he shows you in his book How Communism is Satanism. Oh Karl Marx, so Lenny How Joseph Stalin, how they were all these people were all Satanists and course we know that Communism is described perfectly in God's Word, the Bible, Proverbs 1. Right there it is, folks. All you gotta do is read it. That's communism, not something new.

But it is to a lot of the the young and well, you might call them the young and the dumb and the simple minded, these young people that are out there talking about communisms or socialism they don't understand. Has never really been given a chance. That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, okay? Uh but you know, when people say, Well, Communism has always failed. It hasn't because Uh the goal of communism is not to make a country prosper.

It's not the it's not about freedom, it's not about liberty. It's about enslavement and it's about death. And it's about making people equally impoverished. Am I right, John? Absolutely, Pastor Ernie.

I mean, they've always come to power in time of like revolution, when you see the Russian Revolution, the Chinese Revolution. And then after World War Two, what happened to Eastern Europe and Vietnam, Cambodia. And if they destroy the nations, And they never are rebuilt past earning.

Now, China. may look like an exception, but they basically became capitalists. Yeah, they've got kind of a s a a funny thing there. Their economy is capitalist, but their politics are communist. Yes.

and Russia stayed communist But at the end, they couldn't even make paper clips that they were completely Uh the the world got high tech. And the Russians couldn't keep up with it, with their communism, and it just totally collapsed from. In inward corruption. Not just that, but again Uh communism is about death. It's about death.

And here You know, in this war with Ukraine, Russia has lost a million. They've lost a million, John. a million of their young men. Out there. if somehow the people in Russia Have been over over these years never really, really known freedom, have they?

No. No pest ferny. They've gone from one tyrant to another. And I mean, you can go back to Uh what Peter called Peter the Great. And all, I mean, they they've had nothing if one Tyrant czar after another.

Basically And this and then they switched over to um the Communists. And they, I guess you could say it got worse under the communists, but the Russia has been a. Impoverished nation have, of course, all nations have the rich class, all of them, but The serf uh what when was it Pastor and the 1880, was it? They got rid of the serfs in Russia. Anyhow, we've got that book, the one with Karl Marx and the Satanists in the other book.

The Chaplains and the Clergy of the Revolution by JT HEDLEY This is one of the best books we've ever had, John, because Next to the Bible Answer book, because this here It's a is a a compilation of one hundred of the sermons Of the pastors of the revolution. 100 sermons of the pastors of the revolution, and that was their election day sermon. and these were the men called the Black Robed Regiment that they were so feared by the British. And uh they led the people. And d'ye know what, John?

Both of these books are under mail to you.

So you're gonna help him. And so we have I I have, yeah, a number of radio programs I've read from this book, The Chaplain Clergy of the Revolution. By JT Hedley. And so That is one of the best we've ever. It is really good.

We've sent out hundreds and hundreds of these things. over the years. Anyhow. Oh, yeah. Was Karl Marx a Satanist?

We asked a donation of $25 for that. for the uh chaplains of clergy of the revolution forty dollars Or if you want both of them together, it'll be fifty dollars. You can get for fifty dollars, you can get both of them together. Which saves which saves you quite a bit. There you go.

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or two one six nine zero one zero nine three three. two one six nine zero one zero nine three three. is the regular call in line.

So Folks, we're waiting here for your pledges. This is this is the last night. And listen. If we don't do well tonight.

Now, last night we had $4,000 pledges. Boy, I'd like to match that tonight. If we can match that or uh even like shoot for five. It's very, very important. That we do is because John's a very emotional person.

And if we don't do well tonight, he he's gonna feel it's he's it's his fault. And so and it might be so So this is why it's very important that you call at eight eight eight two eight one one one one zero. And pledge, right, John? That's right, Best Bernie. I'm very tender, so that's You got a pledge so I don't start crying.

How's that? All right. Actually I'd we'd kinda like to hear you cry a little bit. See what their sounds. I heard you.

I heard you singing once and Well It was different. In one time. I don't know if you remember this. But one time he called me up and I was driving in my car. And And the conversation got around to animals.

And you started making animal sounds and you didn't know I had a whole car full of people. I had a whole car full of and you're making these animal sounds, and everybody is just busting up in there, okay? I remember that Ernie. Yeah, I used to my my throat, I guess with age Like everything else, there's muscles and vocal cords and all, but I can't. Make those animal sounds like I used to.

And we were hoping you'd do them coast to coast. But anyhow we we gotta get we gotta get into the study tonight. Uh the title of the message Well actually The title of the message was Duty to Disobey, Duty to Disobey. and this is the last part, and we're going to be in First Corinthians chapter six. First Corinthians chapter six, and we'll take it like a verse at a time.

Here.

So whenever you're you're ready. And folks, again, those What verse did you say we're starting at? Verse 1.

Okay. Alrighty. But let me give those numbers out again real quick so because the guys are all there sitting there. And they they're looking at those they just look at the little phones to see the lights light up. And if they if the lights aren't light enough, they have to look all the way across here to look at me.

And you know. I I I get a feeling they'd rather look at the lights than look at me. But uh Or sometimes what they would be looking at would be the back of the mighty Andrew's head. And uh Mm-hmm. I'm not going to describe that right now, but let's get into it.

Let's start with verse one of chapter six of First Corinthians.

Okay. Dare any of you having a matter against another? go to law before the unjust and not before the saints.

Now remember Paul. was the one that wrote Romans thirteen too, remember? And how all the neo evangelicals and a and all the apostates said That he was making very, very clear that we had to obey the government. Uh, no matter what.

Now the Apostle Paul Um He kind of really does a a message there in Galatians chapter 1 on on the Jews' religion, didn't he? Yeah, yeah, he talked about them. coming under like the law with circumcision and all of that, and showing how that has nothing to do with really salvation in Christ. And so Now the Judaizers, they said, Well, For the Christians is is faith in Christ plus Keeping the laws of Moses, the Mosaic laws, right? Right, right, exactly.

And Paul was really Coming down on them, really criticizing basically. You know, he was saying you started off in faith. And now you're going to works. Who's bewitched you? Is that, I think, the way he said it?

Yeah, well, not only that, but remember what he said. He said if you preach any other gospel than what we've preached than what we preach, let it be Accursed, hoquet. And that's pretty serious, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

And he in fact Uh As we go through here uh tonight, as we we look at this, He's talking about I d dare any of you having a matter against another go to law. before the unjust and not before the saints. No. the unjust are Those that are not saved, am I right? Yeah.

Right. Uh the world, Pastor Ernie. Go ahead with verse two. Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? And if the world shall be judged by you, Are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

What do you think Paul's motive is here for saying that?

Well, what he's trying to show is God has this. In the future. I guess that's a the second coming of Christ. I don't think that's the white throne judgment. No, judge the world.

Um so God's going to entrust in in us to judge The evil world it's that's like large, big, powerful, And then he says, can't you judge each other in small in small matters?

Well, he's talking about that during the Millennial Kingdom will be. we will be judging the world during that millennial kingdom. We will be actually holding offices and glorified bodies. Uh and so Yeah, I I Judge the world. Yeah.

See, when I think of the world, I think I don't think of the millennial reign.

Well, he's going to be shall judge the world. Yeah, Jerry. I look at that. that the world system when he comes and the people that were in that system and all We'd be judging them.

Well, we'll be under under the uh uh in in the kingdom age, it's going to be Christ ruling.

So there is no the world. Right. Christ is going to be on the throne.

Okay. Yeah. But there's going to I mean And the population is going to be there. The person born on the first day will live a thousand years. Judgment will be instantaneously.

But we will be holding offices. I mean, when we return with him. in our glorified bodies We're not just going to be h uh hanging around the pool hall. We're going to be judging out there. We're going to be like mayors or Uh You know, whatever that, you know, police chiefs or whatever during that time.

We'll be holding whatever offices are there. and in that sense we'll be judging that But let's go to the next Oh. Yeah, I think the word world that uh That kind of has me looking at it as a different way as a different way. But verse three? Yeah.

Know ye not that we shall judge angels how much more things that pertain to this life.

So now that's that's uh That's pretty powerful, isn't it?

Well yeah, well obviously it's the fallen angels pastor any.

Well, you don't think we'll be judging unfallen angels then either. I mean those that regular angels. I don't think so. They've been obedient to Christ. They've fallen.

Those that rebelled. Those that are reserved in judgment in 2 Peter 2:4? Yes, yeah. Yeah. But aren't they b you know They've already been judged the fallen angels have already been judged.

They're destined for the everlasting fire. Oh. But I think what he's talking about, we're gonna more likely we're gonna have authority over the holy angels. for they were created for this very purpose, being sent forth to minister, For um that is to serve Them to whom shall be the heirs of salvation. That's what they're there.

And. That's us. Yes, funny. You're making a lot of sense there. I just have I do that.

I make a lot of sense. Occasionally. Occasionally, occasionally. Yeah. Yeah, that's what he's talking about.

The fallen angels have already been judged. They've been judged. They're. They're going south. It's not gonna be good.

They are south already. Yeah. And so We're in TARDIS. They're reserved for judgment in TARDIS. Yep.

And so we will be judging regular angels that God has made. And um And so when so here When Paul says Oh, this is a key verse. This is a very key verse right here. I speak to your shame Is it so that there is not a wise man among you, No not one Oh, wait a minute. I missed a verse.

Let's go back to verse 4. Yeah. If then you have judgments of things pertaining to this life, Set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

So in other words, he's talking about those That are uh n new Christians, you know, new fairly new born again Christians. Uh So he he's Telling you That that even the least babe in the Lord Christian Uh The least esteemed Christian is far better off to judge righteously than someone who's been sitting on a bench for forty years and is not saved. Yeah. I mean, just look out there what we're seeing now With the judges at all levels in state, federal, local, I mean, they're worse than like the politicians in corruption. Oh boy, you're not kidding.

Boy, you're not kidding. There are some bad ones. Oh, you know what?

Now that brings me up to Something I'm gonna uh say out here. uh about what's going on with these um I I'll wait till after the break these Well cameras that they're they have in setting all up all over the place. These flock cameras Yeah. Um you know, I I think we're going to start a crusade against him here. And we're looking to p maybe put together Um Well, I'll talk about it after scripture here, but He says, I speak to your shame.

Is it so that there's not a wise man among you? No not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren. Here why would this be Uh the importance or so That this, that he's saying this here to the church in Corinth. Why would that have such an impression on the Church of Corinth? Uh the trick to Corinth past earny in history was really corrupt.

I mean, the city of Corinth was one of the Worst cities in the world. In fact, it was a derogatory term. They would call people Corinthians. You're a Corinthian was a severe derogatory term. And it seems that the church That they didn't get free from that past journey.

There was a lot of corruption in that Corinthian church.

Well, what about what was it on the weekends instead of you know, going to the ball game, they would go downtown, go to a pavilion or a place And these Greeks like to try to impress each other with their philosophy. Greek philosophy. That was one of the main things that they did as they would like to boast of their knowledge. And Paul is saying to him, I spake to your shame. Is it so that there is not a wise man among you?

know not the one that shall be able to judge between his brother and so he's talking about the the great converts there. Or Least there would be an application to that, don't you think?

Well, again, Pastor Ernie, I didn't know Corinth was like that. I knew Athens was like that. And Paul Was up on Mars Hill, if you remember that. Oh, yeah. Well, it's the same thing, yeah.

I just looked at Corinth was. I mean, with sexual sin and immorality and they had the Temple of Diana there, didn't they? Yeah. Yeah, it was really bad.

So. You may be right. Again, we're looking at it a little different ways, but you're making some good points here. But brother goes to law with brother. And and before not before the unbelievers, Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you because you go to law one with another.

Why do you not rather take the wrong? Why do you not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? Nay, you do wrong and defraud. You know, just like in today, So often we have s we have so much corruption in courts. I mean, there's Just so much corruption in our judicial system today.

I really found that out in all my years in, you know, doing the prison ministry 'cause I would ended up going to courts often with a lot of inmates and Wow did I get an education there And of course, you have too being. Pastor Ernie, of course, you remember John Holman. Oh, yes, absolutely. And me and him worked really hard about the corruption in Pennsylvania with the elderly and stealing their estates and all of that. And that's where our eyes were really opened with the courts, how corrupt they were.

I know. Remember, I was the one that wanted me to get them on the radio program, the prosecutors. They were scared to death. I would call them and they went to a panic. I had that one police chief that Started yelling, I'm not involved in this, I don't want anything to do with it.

He he went into a real panic. He said, I told those people But you're absolutely right, the corruption, and it's still that way today. But we'll be back after this. That used to sit on the public website of a religious tribunal operating just outside Dallas. If you searched for it today, you would not find it.

The tribunal changed its own page. But before the language disappeared, a congresswoman from Wyoming printed it, carried it into a House Judiciary hearing room, and read it into the permanent record of the United States Congress, where nothing can ever be deleted. The exact words are in the back half of this video, and they're stranger than you are imagining. There is a little girl in a Texas suburb whose entire future runs through that paragraph. There are two organizations named under oath in that room, and there is one word answer at the very end that closes the whole question.

The hearing room was a White House Judiciary Committee chamber on the third floor of the Rayburn building. The witness at the table was identified for the record as Miss Melklenberg, a researcher and former member of a Muslim community who had spent more than a decade documenting how Sharia. based tribunals operate inside American cities. The Republican across from her was Harriet Hagman of Wyoming, a constitutional lawyer who argued federal cases for 25 years before she ran for Congress. You may have already seen 30 seconds of this hearing.

One sentence from this testimony traveled across social media within two days. The sentence in which the witness claimed that councils operating in America had issued religious rulings saying apostates and blastomeres could be killed. That sentence became the headline. But the headline skipped the part a courtroom lawyer would call the evidence. Hegman did not build her five minutes around an accusation.

She built it around a document, a printout of a website that no longer reads the way it did when she printed it. Most of the coverage missed what that document actually said. This video is about the paper on her desk. Start with the word the tribunals use to describe themselves, voluntary. Every tribunal identified in this hearing presents its services as something members of the community freely choose.

A private alternative for marriage disputes, divorces, inheritance questions, and conflicts with people in positions of leadership. Hagman took that word apart first. First, she asked Mecklenburg whether participation can honestly be called voluntary when the person walking in faces social pressure, family pressure, and community pressure to stay out of American courts. Mecklenbeg said yes, people have been coerced into these bodies. And then she went further.

She described communities across Texas where a person can now be born, raised, married, and buried without ever dealing with anyone outside the faith. Her phrase for it was fully operational parallel societies. Inside those societies, she said, there are courts. Therefore, the question stopped being whether these tribunals exist. The question became who runs them?

And this is where Meckelberg said something no previous witness had put on a congressional record. The men acting as judges, she testified, are largely coming in from outside the country. They introduced themselves under many titles. An imam, a Sharia expert, a Sharia jurist. But look closely, she said, and they are functioning as judges.

There's a name on the printout on Hegman's desk we're getting to. And the organization behind that webpage knew exactly what it was building. Here is where the paper comes in. The webpage Hegman printed belonged to one specific tribunal operating near Dallas. Not a rumor of a tribunal, a functioning body with a public website, a stated mission, and written opinions about the American legal system.

Before this hearing, that website said something remarkable about what the Tribunal believed itself to be. I'm going to hold the exact wording a little longer because the order in which Hegeman used it matters. First, she laid the constitutional floor. She named the fifth, sixth, seventh, and fourteenth amendments out loud. The guarantees of due process, counsel, a jury, and equal protection that follow every American into every courtroom in the country.

Then she listed what those guarantees look like in practice. Public records anyone can request, decisions that get filed, attorneys in the room, a transcript of every proceeding. That is the machinery that lets you appeal a bad ruling, expose a biased judge, and prove what was said. Then she turned to the witness and asked how much of that machinery exists inside a Sharia tribunal in Texas. Mecklenburg's answer fits in a single breath: it does not.

Nothing to request, nothing on file, and no transcript of what was decided. A ruling handed down in a room the United States government cannot see into over the marriage, the children, or the inheritance of an American citizen. Which brings the hearing to the two names. Mecklenburg identified on the record the organizational lawyer above the local tribunals. The Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America.

The FIC Council of North America.

Alrighty, we are back and uh Here John in Texas pledges forty dollars. Thank you, John. The numbers are 888-281-1110. That's credit card line. Uh or two one six nine zero one zero nine three three.

That's two one six nine zero one zero nine three three.

So Uh John, what we're talking about here This was entered into the congressional record right now. Nancy Mace, the Congress or the Senator, Nancy Mace. Um, she has is she a congresswoman or a senator, Nancy Mays, John. I think she's a congresswoman, yeah. Uh she has come out and she has South Carolina, Pister, and she's from South Carolina.

And she said out here t that Every single Muslim that's holding off a Trojan horse And every single Mo Muslim that's ov holding office in America today. Um is a threat to the security and the safety of American people.

Now, uh, she's not saying that Muslims are bad, it's their They're I don't know, is that a religion or is that Their religion and is that their government They're the Sharia law. Pastor Ernie. It it all goes together. Their religion, their economy. Uh the law it all it's all wrapped up in one.

And they believe that we'll just say Shahira law is ordained by God. It comes directly from God. It's God's law from heaven.

So if it takes if it's a choice between the Constitution of the United States and Shi'era law, They're going to take Shiera law all the time, all the time, Pastor Nee.

So their loyalty is to Islam And not to the like the government or the Constitution of the United States. No, they they're not. They Not at all. And yet Um They're right there's what, something like forty six offices now. that they've been they've been elected to around the country.

Whether it's uh mayors, m uh, and now you have all these c I believe there's what, like 14 now congresspeople that are supposed to. Or the ones you have the squat. And if these others get during the midterms, if they get elected, these new ones that are running. that'll make like fourteen Muslims in Congress. And um we've seen what what they have done throughout, you know, And the other countries now are pushing back.

The ones that they have taken over, you saw what they did in Britain. And in Britain it was so bad. We mentioned this several times. that recently just recently in uh England, they've come out and they've they've they put enough flyers and they made these flyers mailed out to all the citizens. of showing em that Rape in Britain and in the U UK, rape is a crime.

It's a serious crime. And also Pedophilia is a serious crime. and they sent these flyers out because a lot of these these Muslims are saying in their culture rape's not not really a big deal, okay? And so It would be a big deal, Pastor Ernie, or it could be a big deal if it's a Muslim woman. Um There is some controls on that, but the the uh the women that aren't Muslims.

is very is very dangerous. And that if she brings out If she said she was raped, and points out who it was and all that, they'll arrest her. Little restaurant pass journey. Huh, well But now here What's happened is they've been raping all these b young uh British girls, English girls. and the people are pushing back and they push back very hard against that.

Uh the same thing they did it in Germany, same thing they had the same situation in Germany. and so also in Denmark now. Denmark has pushed back big time. And so, uh That's good, you know, that's good news, but of course, that's what they're trying to do here. They're trying to get a foothold.

Uh, same thing. Get elected to mayor and then Uh Congress. All right. Paul in Ohio pledges fifty. Oh, excuse me, Pastor Nik.

Go ahead. Paul in Ohio pledges $50. Thank you, Paul. Arlene in Illinois pledges $50. Joan in New Jersey pledges 105.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. 18882811110. They're doing this for you, John. They don't want you to feel bad. They want you to know that.

After hey, Dearborn, Michigan is the perfect example of it. Yeah, let me ask you a question. Did you see all of the news the news talking about how all of these Um Crusaders that came to Dearborn. Uh, to s stand up for Jack Lane. You know, Jake Lane.

We had Jake Lane here on the radio program, the J Sixer. Do you remember him? Yeah. Well, he went to Dearborn and he was street preaching and they stoned him. And he had to he ran and he got and a cop let him in the back of his car.

They would have killed him. And so you had a Uh I guess they said thousands of uh from all over the country had a huge a huge uh group of bikers. come in, you know, Christian bikers. command to stand up for him, But it's the interesting thing if you watched what is called the legacy news media now. They were talking about how These Christians that came storming in, these stormtroopers, into a peaceful Islamic community.

Um the police chief was was telling people Please do not come here please do not come here. Uh but I you know, here and prior to that, They had a town meeting and the mayor told Christian pastors You are not welcome here in Dearborn, Michigan. Christians are not welcome here, especially pastors.

So There you go. You know, what happened to their First Amendment rights? Under Sharia law, we don't have First Amendment, do we? Oh no. Oh no, Pestinery.

Absolutely not. And you dare not say it's a death sentence for speaking out against Mohammed. All right, we have Dorothy in Illinois pledges 100. Thank you, Dorothy. And um It's did I get that right?

Is that Dorothy?

Okay. Alrighty. We're going to go back, and we're going to play another five-minute clip, John.

So listen, and I'll be right back. She described the Assembly as the legal arm inside the broader network, the body that issues fatwas, the religious rulings that tribunals on American soil are then expected to enforce. And she told the committee that a current category of those rulings concern what should happen to people who leave the faith or insult it. That claim is hers, delivered under oath, stated twice, and it is the sentence the internet already knows. What the internet does not know is what Hegman was holding while the room went still.

She never waived the printout. She never raised her voice about it. A trial lawyer for a quarter century, she understood that the most damaging thing in that chamber was not an accusation from a witness. Accusations can be argued with. The most damaging thing in that chamber was the tribunal's own writing, composed by the tribunal, published by the tribunal about the country it operates in.

Before the tape rolls, you should know two things are coming after the big moment. Watch what the tribunal did to its own website and watch the single word that ends the exchange. Here's what the paper said. I'm quoting it exactly as it was read into the congressional record. The tribunal describes itself as a unique institution of its kind in the United States, established with the intention of setting a precedent that would be emulated and duplicated.

Throughout the country. Not a quiet community service, a prototype, in its own words, meant to spread. And then the website graded the alternative. The courts of the United States of America, the tribunal wrote, are costly and consist of ineffective lawyers, a body operating on American soil, ruling over American citizens, publicly declaring the American judicial system beneath its own. Read that line again.

Then hold on to this. Hegeman noted on the record that the tribunal has since altered its website. The founding language is gone from the page. It is not gone from the congressional record because nothing ever is. The words the tribunal no longer once read are now preserved permanently by the government it dismissed.

Moments later, Hegeman asked the witness to confirm that what she described violate the Constitution and the rights of the individuals inside those tribunals. One word came back, correct. After the gavel, the clip of this exchange spread within two days, and almost Every version of it cuts straight to the thoughtless sentence. The paragraph you just heard barely made the coverage, even though it is the one piece of evidence written by the other side.

Somewhere in a Texas suburb, the little girl Mecklenburg described is growing up inside a community that will not tell her what she is owed under the 5th, the 6th, the 7th, and the 14th. The paragraph that dismissed her country's courts has been scrubbed. The record of it has not. And one more thing: there is an 11-page tribunal proceeds document out of Dallas that never made it into this exchange. That is the next video.

See it for yourself. Thank you. In our previous hearing on this topic, I focused on how Sharia-based tribunals will jeopardize America's rights to equal protection and due process under the law, particularly in cases involving women and minors. We learned that the presence of Sharia-based tribunals in the United States dates back decades and that it is common practice for these tribunals to stray from traditional judicial proceedings, meaning that participants risk losing protections guaranteed under the Constitution, as was just being debated. One example of such a tribunal operating near Dallas, before altering its website, actually prided itself on being a unique institution of its kind in the United States with the intention of setting a precedent that would be emulated and duplicated throughout the country.

That same tribunal further claimed that, conflicting problems within American Muslim society may range from personal and family matters such as marriage and divorce, as well as disputes among community members and those in positions of leadership. The courts of the United States of America are costly and consist of ineffective lawyers, end quote. To be clear, conformity to the Constitution is the governing factor behind the operation of our judicial system. The Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Fourteenth Amendments are there to ensure that everyone has a right to a fair trial. While the First Amendment is intended to ensure that every American citizen can practice the religion of their choosing, it does not permit any parallel tribunal or body to supersede the role of our judiciary in the protections of those constitutional rights.

Ms. Meckleberg. Sharia-based tribunals often label themselves as offering voluntary services, but is it not true that individuals have been coerced into using these bodies because of social, familial, and other community pressures? Yes, I was actually saying earlier that right now in communities all across Texas, all across different places throughout the United States, from birth to death, they now have full operational societies.

Alrighty, we're back. And uh, John, what do you think it is that um? Like Texas seems to have a uh a a large, large Muslim population uh uh Why do you think that that is?

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, Pastor Ernie, I don't know if it's my phone. or you, but you're breaking up and I couldn't even hear That um everything was fine until you put the that five the last video on. And I I I it's you your voice is breaking up now also.

Oh boy.

Well, it's it's you know, everything here is is all right. It's fluttering. It's Friday night. Let me call back. Let me call back, Pastor Anyway.

All righty.

We're going to wait for John to call back while he's calling back. Ryan. In Ohio pledges fifty. Thank you, Brian. Uh the numbers are Mm-hmm.

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The regular line is two one six. nine zero one zero nine three three. two one six nine zero one zero nine three three. This is Friday night. We c you know, we call it Friday, Friday night because This is usually the night these things happen to us more than any other night, but uh So, uh oh, that's that's John's calling back in, so we're gonna see if we can reconnect with him.

Yeah, I I hear you now, Pastor Annie, but the moment That um well video came on. It was all fluttering. Bad.

So I don't know if it was only May, but it that that happened.

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Anyhow Can we get a pledge, a match from one of you? for that amount of money out there. And don't forget We've got Was Karl Marx a Satanist by Pastor Richard Wirmbrat or The Chaplains and the Clergy of the Revolution by JT Headley. uh folks. And by the way, Uh If you don't get the newsletter, you really should get the newsletter.

It's we we sent out some interesting articles. Have you gotten your newsletter yet this month, John? Yes, Perth Harry. And we you know, so folks And you have these articles to hang on to if you want to to persuade those friends and relatives that that are that don't get it, you know, that uh are out there in La La Land and show 'em that the The things that we tell you that are actually happening out there, things that you don't hear about on the mainstream media. Oh.

Annie in Pennsylvania pledges 140. Thank you, Annie. And so it like I was asking you before too. Um If you heard, have you heard uh anything on the so so called legacy media about what took place there. Uh In Dearborn.

Nothing really, Pastor Ernie. One little article. And it claimed pastors were upset and that they weren't living there were two pastors and I don't know how many others, but they they quote commented on two pastors saying This is in America. You know, the Muslims are only. like one percent of the population and they're taking over and Airborne is under Shairo law, it's not under American law.

So that they did speak out real clear. Yeah, I I know that that was a and the one was a black pastor, and he was very, very vocal. They had uh Mm. wh what had had taken place is a number of converts of former Muslims that converted to the Lord Jesus I came back. And they you know, and they came back to their own people there.

And uh They were they were treated A little better, but but but looked upon as traitors. And so Anyhow. Uh How big a threat do you feel that this is here in America today?

Well, Pastor Garnie, in in combination with the Democrat Party, I think it's a big threat. They look at Mondami's already the mayor of New York. The largest city in America. Yeah. Yeah, and if they wherever they get in power, they're going to run it into the ground.

You know? Yeah, look at um uh of uh Minnesota. With Minneapolis, and the Attorney General there is a Muslim. In Minnesota? And the mayor might as well be a Muslim.

I I believe the mayor is Minneapolis is a Muslim. I believe so. And a lot of your police, a lot of your police officers are Muslims. In fact, do you remember? here a couple of years ago.

when that woman called uh she called the police and one of the officers in the car was a Muslim, and she was in some kind of an emergency. She came running towards the car, Uh and but she was wearing her nightgown. and the Muslims shot her and killed her. Yeah, and he was found guilty of that. Yeah.

You know, it was a bizarre. If anybody was going to shoot her, it was the driver of the vehicle. He was a. like a a a passenger And he had to reach across the driver, who was a police officer, and shoot her. They found him guilty of I guess it was manslaughter.

Do you think he did that because uh the way she was dressed? I have no idea. I have no idea, Pastor Annie. All right, Joe's a complaint. She was the complainant.

She called About whatever the issue was. She called, and when the police came, she came like running out of her house and she came running to them I think maybe someone had tried to molest her or hurt her or something. And so she came running to the police like for help. And he shot and killed her. Yeah.

There was a lady that was unarmed. Why in the world we do that? She was unarmed.

Well, there was something in the article that said it was. uh b be because of of the way she was dressed. That uh I I remember the article, and he was offended by the way she was addressed. Or Uh, you know, yeah, you know, and she was wearing a a nightgown. I don't know, you know.

what that's got to do with with Shereaf. I guess she was pretty much covered up. But um Anyhow Joseph in Ohio pledges three hundred. Thank you, Joseph. Boy, this is a big night for Ohio.

You got a we got a a bunch of uh for Ohio tonight. Anyhow, th the numbers are eight eight eight. Two eight one. One one one zero that's credit card line or 216-901-0933. We've got uh five one more clip on this here.

John, so listen, Haimp, and we'll be back right after this.

Somebody could actually be born in America and never have to operate outside of and deal with any kind of non-Muslim.

So, within these societies, they have their courts. And if you notice, most of the Imams that are the heads that are coming from outside the country are Sharia judges. And these Sharia judges hand down. These different, they use many different names. They will say that they're an iman, they're a sharia expert, a sharia jurist, et cetera.

But if you go and you look, these are the people who are acting as the judges within these communities. And there's an entire organization around this. If you look up the Assembly Muslim of Jurists in America, they're issuing fatwas. We have Fiqh Council people who are also, again, that's a Sharia judge. These are people who are putting out fatwas that you can kill apostates, blasphemers.

This is happening inside America. That's clearly a violation of the Constitution and the rights of the individuals who are involved in those tribunals, correct? Correct. Uh John, when I was in. A couple of years back, several years back, very quickly I'll tell you this, we had a Muslim fellow call me and ask me if I could come talk to him.

He listens to me on the radio. He was living in a church there in Cleveland. And um They gave him a place a little in the basement. And I asked him, well, why didn't he just come out and see me? He said, I can't.

He said, if I leave this church, if I come out of here, they'll kill me. He was talking about his family. And so You know, there you go. And and this guy was he was a He was serious, so I d I went went down to tell him and he said that these people are very, very serious uh about that. We had another situation where Uh they killed a uh a father killed his own young daughter.

Anyhow. We'll be back after this with a whole lot more, a lot more to come. Folks, the phone lines are open. 888-281-1110. Be right back with more.

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