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TUE HR 1 081826  Pledge Week, Pastor talks about what to do after the rapture, How man should govern, Sanders and his guests talk about the movie Duy to Disobey, Wendy Lee discusses how the VA covers funeralsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The following program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre-recorded. I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast, What's Right, What's Left is coming up right now.

Coming to you live from Independence, Ohio. Changed our life for the better in many different ways. Heard around the world every Monday through Friday. Esther Sanders is always years ahead of the rest of the media, telling you exactly what they're covering up. This is what's right, what's left.

I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world. A lot of the other news media don't pick up the news items like he does. And bringing to light the enemies of freedom who are to steal your rights, your children, and enslave you. You really get the truth out.

I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. The voice of the Christian resistance.

And tonight, this is Pledge Week, Pledge Week, Pledge Week, folks. And so tonight. Those manning the phones We have Little Lisa. Good evening, everyone. Get over there on the phones.

Hurry up. All right, we have. Ken Klein? and Eric there. There they go.

And uh tonight we have of course In a glass cage we keep him locked in there, make him behave. But he's our producer. And um He's a board up. And he does a pretty good job.

Sometimes I got to whoop him a little bit, but other than that he does a good job. And that is style. Hey, Pastor, how are you? All righty. And then.

Tonight here live in the studio our special yests are none other than Miss Wendy Lee. Hi there. Oh, you gotta say. Hi there. There you go.

And Lola. Laura. Krasner. Noar. Huh?

Kasner. Kasner. Noar. Laura, Noar, Kasner. Good evening, everyone.

And then way out there you've heard of him, he's the legendary. Like this program, he is the legendary. The parson, Pastor Joe Larson, out in The mountains of Missouri. Hey there, live well, and glad to be with you tonight.

Alrighty, this is Pledge Week. And so I've got these two ladies in the studio. Let's hit em up for a grand apiece, Joe. What do you think? You might get flapped, yes.

Well, they just passed out, so. Anyhow, we got a lot of stuff to get into.

So, you ladies, you ready? We're going to get into the Word of God tonight. And the uh title of the message As you remember, it's duty to disobey. And we're going to start where we left off over there and Romans.

Well, Joe, we're going to do it differently tonight. Let's go back. to Romans thirteen where we left off. Let's start back at verse one.

So go ahead and read it. Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. for there is no power but of God. The powers that be are ordained of God.

Okay, so he's talking about government. This was when God gave us the divine institution of human government. here, and so let's jump over to Genesis nine. and take a look at that Noaic covenant. Because God's Word in the Bible doesn't stutter, folks.

And so we look here in verse 1, and God blessed Noah and his sons. and said unto them to be fruitful, and to multiply, And replenish the earth.

Now, this is the third time. The very first command that God gave man was to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth. What do you think Roe v. Wade did with that command? There you go.

You see. tore it into little pieces, totally disregarded it and thumbed their nose at God. This is what we're divine government, or what we call legitimate government that God gave us, okay? Our government, you know, people will say is the best there is. Uh it's not perfect, but it's the best there is.

Well Uh no, it's not the best there is. What God gave us was the best there is. What the founding father gave us was far, far, far better than what we have today, okay? But here By the time you hit Genesis 9, this is the third time. God has given that command to be fruitful and multiply.

And go ahead and read verse 2. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every fowl of the air. upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea. Into your hands are they delivered.

Okay, so here now you're gonna see that there's five points that God gives us dirt in this when He gives us the divine institution, The very first point was to whom it was given, and if you jump ahead Uh two. Verses 9 And I behold, I established my covenant with you and your seed after you. With every living creature that is with you. of the fowl on the cattle, and of the beasts of the earth, Uh that go out of the ark, to every beast that on the earth, I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more. By the waters of the flood, Neither shall there be any more.

flood to destroy the earth. And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I have made between me and me. And you and every living creature. That is for you. For perpetual generations I do set my bow in the sky in the cloud.

and it shall be for a token of the covenant between me and earth.

Now some So the point one was to whom Did he make this covenant? And he made this covenant with all of mankind for perpetual generations for every living creature. And this spanned all dispensation periods, this spanned all dispensation.

Now the rainbow, when he put his bow, the rainbow, Has Always deals with two things, always with two things. It's it's you'll find it mentioned four times in the Bible. Here You and Ezekiel 1. and Revelation 4 and then again Revelation 10. And and each time it's for first It's for judgment.

And then it's for Mercy. He shows judgment and then he shows mercy.

So the judgment he showed here in the flood. was well, about eight billion people perished in the flood, that was his judgment. The mercy was a didn't And so and then in every case it's mercy and judgment. And there's seven colors to God's rainbow. Going back to The genesis Nine.

Verse 3.

Now that they Second point was the intent. The intent of divine human government, real human government. Go ahead, Joe, read verse three and four. Every moving thing that liveth. shall be meat for you, even as the green herb.

Have I given you all things? but flesh with the life thereof, Which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Okay, so now. Verses one through four is the intent man was to govern for God. man was to govern for God. And then Uh here we get into the third point. This is the entire purpose.

The entire purpose of divine human government legitimate human government, government God recognizes. Read verses five through seven, Joe. And surely your blood of your lives will I require. At the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man, at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Crusoe sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

for in the image of God made he man. And you, be ye fruitful and multiply, bring forth abundantly in the earth. And multiply therein.

Okay, so the entire purpose. The entire Purpose of divine human government was to preserve the image of God that be in man. That was the entire purpose. To preserve the image of God that be in man. Not to destroy the image of God.

And see, this is where our government has power, but it's not legitimate because it allows. the destruction of the image of God. And so then we we move on to the fourth point.

Now The fourth point, you have to go to we we're we're not gonna go all there now to 119 Psalm. is the means by which man was to govern for God, God's laws, God's statutes, God's ordinance, God's covenants, etcetera. This is what man was to use to govern for God. And then the fifth point was that all nations and peoples that were in compliance with the very first four would be at peace and not at war with God.

Now we jump back to Romans thirteen. And we pick it up in verse two. Go ahead, Joe. Let's take adverse at our time.

Okay, thirteen through. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, Resista. The ordinance of God, and they that resist shall receive to themselves. damn nation.

So he's telling you that rulers that that God has ordained rulers That they are to use his word, his ordinances, his cove covenants. uh his statutes to govern by okay And if they're doing that, they're legitimate. If they're doing that, we have to give them fear and honor because they're There it complies with God. This doesn't talk about just Uh You know, pastors being in compliance, we'll go there in a minute. That means whether if you're a mayor, you're supposed to be using this is what God says.

You supposed to be using His words, His ordinances, His judgments. To govern, if you're a governor, if you're a senator, if you're a president, you're supposed to be using God's Word. And if you have questions. You are to go to God's servants, and we'll go there. Jump over John to um Hebrews thir Hebrews thirteen.

I was just thinking while I while I was doing that. If you look in the Old Testament when a king What did the king have to do? The king had to read all the first five books and In his own handwriting. And follow them. Yeah, right.

He had to copy it down in his own handwriting. And read it daily.

So that kind of gives you a precedence that goes with this because, you know. Here's the example we have. He gave us quite a clear example of how to govern right there. Hebrews 13, where do you want to go?

Now, this is where. Whether you're a mayor, a governor, or whoever, you're supposed to go and say, What saith the Lord God? Go to verse 7. Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God. Those Whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Okay, so. He's telling you to go to God's prophets, go to God's pastors. Judgement.

Now go ahead and read verse seventeen. seventeen Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves. for they watch for your souls. as they that must give account That they may do it with joy. And not with grief, for that is unprofitable for you.

So these aren't suggestions, okay? These are literally ordinances. That whether you're the President or whoever, you're due. Ask the men of God, the teachers, the scholars, what saith the Lord God? Um and get wise consul.

Let's go bi jump back to uh Romans 13. and pick it up with verse three For rulers. are not a terror to good works. but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?

Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same.

So then it takes you back to 119th Psalm where. You say, well, what is good? What is good? It's God's laws, God's ordinance, God's covenants, God's commands. This is by what we consider to be good works, okay, in compliance with those.

And so For example, Uh if you You feed the hungry. Matthew chapter 25. If you House the homeless if you close the naked. These are good works in compliance with God's word. And then go ahead to verse four.

For he is the minister of God for thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, Be afraid. For he beareth not the sword in vain, but For he is the minister of God. A revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. And this is why we use the King James Bible, because the King James Bible is far superior uh in every way to all the rest.

By far, okay. And m a lot of your New Age versions, the ASV or the NIV especially in that. They've changed that word minister to servant.

So what would be What would be the problem? I mean, aren't ministers servants of God? Yes, but not all servants are ministers.

Well, has God used demons as servants? Yes. He's used them to serve his purpose. He used the uh some of the most corrupt people on earth. to serve him.

Uh whether they liked it or not, huh? Right. And so it seems like there was a certain ruler that made this decree that everybody had to go to their city of birth to. signed the tax roll. And uh all just to fulfill scripture, right?

Absolutely.

So We go on to the next verse here.

Now again, for he's a revenger of God to execute wrath upon him. That doeth evil. Evil is when you're in rebellion, and not a compliance, but against. Today, if we look at well, yeah, I gotta just tell you. The entire Democratic Party platform, if you read their entire platform.

It is absolutely in total opposition To what the Bible teaches. Everything in there. It used to, it wasn't that way years ago. I mean, you know, it was. But today And they have turned and all of this stuff about It's it's a lot of show business about the new communists, the new socialist democrat.

They're all Uh they're all socialist. And if you read Proverbs 1, which we ha it clearly describes Communism of today, which is literally Satanism. That's where it started. It started with, not with Karl Marx, but with Satan.

Okay. Right. And so But here this next verse. Again, Karl Marx worshiped Satan, glorified Satan. Yeah, Satan was his god.

So definitely, Satan came far before Karl Marx ever did. Yeah, but you know, uh Joseph Stalin also was a Satanist. But Stalin was afraid to curse God. In other words, a stalin they said. He stopped there at their point.

But he was also a Satanist. Stalin was. And so But Marx cursed God. Mark said he will be as as God, okay?

Sounds familiar, right? Out of Isaiah chapter 14, verse 12. I will be as the Most High. Just like the one he worships, and he's. gonna be in the same place with him forever.

So, uh He got what he deserved. Verse five wherefore he must needs be subject not only for wrath, but also for conscience' sake.

So Joe, remember when we were kids, we were young? And um Yeah, a lot of the stuff that We didn't do is we didn't do it because w we didn't want to get another licking, right?

Some of us got a lot of it. But there were times, Joe, There were times when we obeyed our parents because we loved them, not be Just to be not because we were afraid of getting a whooping, but we just literally loved our parents. And that's why we obeyed 'em, right? Did that ever happen to you, ladies? Oh, I used to get my mom used to turn me over her knee.

Yeah. And so But sometimes you just were. I was just going to say, and then there were times that we went ahead and did what we wanted. What was that old joke? If I do it, I did a whipping, I dood it.

And so So that's what he's talking about. We're we're to obey God, not just Because we fear uh repr reprisal, we're to obey him because we love him, okay. Right. Now here you go, here, this you get into this. Uh here.

For this cause now pay you tribute also, for they are God's ministers. attending continually upon this very thing.

Now this is very important, very important. Render therefore to all their dues tribute to whom tribute is due. Custom to whom custom is due fear to whom fear is due. honor to whom honor is due.

Now I one time had a um And you know, and that means respect too. I had a A black pastor called me And when Obama was in office, And he said Now, Brother Sanders We know that uh I know you don't ag agree with President Obama. But he's your president and you have to You have to honor. His position Uh because he's he's president. And Do you ladies believe that?

Well, I think the position deserves respect. I don't know about honor.

Okay, turn to Proverbs chapter twenty four. You find out that if you give honor to whom honor is not due. Uh And praise to whom praise is not due. It's a sin. And so In Proverbs chapter Twenty-four Starting with verse 19.

Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked. For there shall be no reward to the evil man the candle of the wicked shall be put out. Keep going, John. Fear thou the Lord and the King, and meddle not with them that are given to change. Remember hope and change?

Yeah, I hope it insane, yep. For their calamity shall rise suddenly. and who knoweth the root of them both? These things belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons and judgment He that saith to the wicked, Thou art righteous, Him shall the people curse.

and nations shall abhor him. But to them that rebuke him, and shall be a delight, and a good blessing shall come upon him. For every man shall kiss the lips They giveth the right answer.

So When John the Baptist said Herod! You've taken your brother's wife.

Okay, did John the Baptist see? And this is what these people are saying.

Well, Even if they're wicked people, even if they're like Joe Biden or Anthony Fauci. If you have if they hold an office or a high position, You're supposed to Give them reverence. Uh no, the Bible says we're to give it to what they have coming, okay? And if they're wicked, then we are to what? rebuke them.

You remember what John the Battle of the. And um And rebuke is a strong word. Scripture says reprove, which is a gentle, nice way. Rebuke is a very strong spoken, uh direct Reproach Alrighty, we're gonna Stop right there And we're gonna play a a quick song. For a break here.

Uh Feel so certain about this faith of mine. I'm hanging in there. Doing fine. King Jesus is a friend of mine. I'm blessed by you.

Saving babies. Teaching sinners in Christ. Hell's for losers, heaven's for winners. This work. Is not for beginners.

I am blessed by you. I'm coming home someday. Heaven's my wedding. I'm blessed by Where the saints all stand. Yeah.

Children play time with Where the saints of old walk on streets of gold, I know that I will see that heavenly prize is no surprise. How happy I'll be gonna see my family again Gonna be with long-lost friends Maybe sooner, I don't know when I'm blessed by you Gave me treasures, reaching sinners Hell's for losers, heaven's for winners This world does not ever begin I'm blessed by you I'm coming home someday Heaven's my way I'm blessed by you Where the saints all stay and little children play I'm blessed by you Where the saints of old walk on streets of gold, I know that I will see my mansion on high through glorified eye. How happy I'll be where his glory shine, there I'll apply on those golden shoulders. I'll be satisfied. Oh, some bright day gonna fly away here today.

There, I'll stay. I'll be there with you, cause your words are darker. I'm blessed by you. The very best blessings come from the good Lord. Amen.

And we're going to be playing a little clip here in just a minute. You ready, stile? Oh, ooh, wow, that's right. I forgot all about being pledge week. Wow.

This is Pledge Week, Pledge Week, Pledge Week. We had such a program going. All right, folks, the numbers are 888. 281110 The guys are setting back there. They must have thought I've lost my mind.

Maybe I did lose my mind. Uh I know I've lost a lot of money probably. Eight eight eight. Two eight one. One one one zero.

That's credit card line. Or two one six. Nine zero one zero nine three three 216-901-0933. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to start off by pledging one thousand.

Put me down for one thousand. There we go.

Now we're going to, again, folks, the lines are open. Yeah, I can't believe I did that. That the Are these ones oh i see? Mike and PA pledge 200. Patrick in Ohio plays 100.

And uh I can't believe that I I just got started here. All right. And I just pledged 1,000. Can I get a match for my 1000? Can I get a match for my 1,000?

Let's go. To a little clip. We're going to play a fast clip here because we got something coming up.

So go ahead and take it to the clip. Uh We just came from the premiere of Duty to Disobey, unbelievable film. It'll really wake some people up. Tell all your friends to go because this movie is an absolute must-see. It's amazing.

Be prepared to have your eyes open. It'll shock you to your core. Until you see this film, you really don't understand the gravity of what these folks went through and the impossible decisions that them and their families had to make. It's an excellent movie. I recommend everybody watch it.

This was a really great movie and a very powerful movie. And it's also. A very heartbreaking movie. The Pentagon is going to require vaccines for all service members. Leaders did everything legal or illegal within their power to coerce and influence their service members to get the shots.

Military members are expected to just roll up their sleeves and get any and all shots that the government mandates. They didn't get the license COVID shots that they were told they were getting, and that was illegal. They stood up for their rights, they stood up for the Constitution. They had a duty under the military code to stand up. In the military, we are oathbound to obey lawful orders.

However, when those orders are not lawful, we are. Duty bound to disobey.

Soldiers were psychologically tortured, who were isolated, thrown in the break because they wouldn't get the shot, attempted to be forced vaccinated. It's a critical movie that the whole nation needs to see. There are so many injustices, so many wrongs that need to be righted. 8,000.

Well-trained men and women were fired. I lost my ability to feed my family. I mean, I'm being told you're getting dishonorably discharged. Seeing a movie like this. Is absolutely critical.

I have a tremendous amount of admiration for all of the people who took courageous stances and said no. At some point, the tables turn, and those who protect us need protection and defense. This should never be allowed to happen again. And honestly, there needs to be accountability. We need more of this to come out now like never before.

If you keep saying yes when you shouldn't, you will not be able to say no when you should. We see what happens in the absence of compassion and in the absence of love. Everything falls apart. These are the finest among us. The injustice.

caused by the response to the pandemic. is large. And if and if people don't listen, we're going to keep repeating this problem over and over again. If this is something that's going to happen to the military, that the civilian population are the next ones to come. What happens in the U.S.

military, which comprises over a million people, ultimately does happen in the general population. This is what is in store unless we turn it around. If you care about America, if you care about the world, if you love our military, if you love family, you have to see this movie. It is not conjecture. It's not conspiracy theory.

It's there. The evidence is there. The people are real. Please go see it. Have an open mind.

Take some friends with you. Share it with others. This is something that's critically important for our entire nation to see. It's a must-watch. Go out and see it.

It's coming to a theater near you. Folks, again, we're back. This is Pledge Week, Pledge Week. And uh the Numbers are that But before we get to that, we have this week Was Karl Marx a Satan? This is one of the most popular offerings that we've had out there.

Was Karl Marx a Satan by Pastor Richard Wormbrat? Remember. He wrote the book Tortured for Christ. and it goes into and it shows you what we've been telling you for such a long time here. on this radio program.

Marxism, Socialism, all of these, they come right from the pit of hell. And then the other and we're asking a donation of twenty five dollars or more. The other one is the ch n and the other one Next to the Bible Answer book that we have. It's probably one of the best that we've ever had. Is The Chaplains and the Clergy of the Revolution by J.T.

Hedley. This book is gives you 100 examples of pastors Who preached the led the revolution. These were the pastors that led the revolution. And it was there. Uh The election day servants that they preach before the days of the election.

And so Oh. Before they stepped out, they took off their black robes. That's why they were referred to as the black robed regiment in those days. It was custom. for a preacher in a pulpit to wear a black robe over his regular clothes, and they would take off the black robe and often be have a uniform underneath it.

and they led the war for independence. Again. Donation of $40, or you can get both if you want both. Uh we ask for a donation of fifty dollars and you save fifteen.

So All right. Peter in Massachusetts pledges three hundred. Thank you, Peter. Uh go ahead, Laura, tell us about this film.

So, this film was shown in Independence back on June 30th, a few weeks ago. And there was a young woman who her name is Jen Waliki Israel, and she served in the Coast Guard.

So she hosted this film, and they they had a room set up at the Ramada in Independence for about 200 people. And sadly, there were only about 50 people there that came to see the film. Um But it was really powerful. Um It brought me to tears. And I felt Like, I need to do something to share this film with others.

So, I were going to show this film at my church on. october fifteenth which is a Thursday at 6.30 p.m. And my church is Liberty Valley Church. at nine eight five one Old Eight Road in Northfield. Ohio.

Um people can that that uh trailer that you just Played. People can go look at that again at duty to disobeyfilm.com. And let me just, in case there's somebody joining late, let me just read. Um a little thing here that I have on my flyer. They were trained to follow orders, but also sworn to defend the Constitution.

During COVID-19, United States military service members were given orders that many believed were unlawful. and told their careers depended on compliance.

Some obeyed, others refused. nearly all paid a price. Duty to disobey reveals what happened to those who refused. and why their story matters to every American. This is a film about courage under pressure.

Institutional failure. in the quiet line where lawful authority ends.

Alright, so there. Uh, you know, I started out This message with a little commentary. Let me just jump back to that. Um This is, of course, we just talked about this new documentary movie. hitting the box office soon.

called duty to disobey. It's a revelation of what took place during the Tragic years. uh of Joe Biden's presidency. It um Here Our military was forced to take the kill shot. called the COVID-19 vaccine and I want to remind you Three weeks before the very first person took the very first shot, we were here on air telling you it's not a vaccine.

This thing is is not a vaccine at all. It's a bioweapon. And so here Uh he we go on to t to talk about how When sworn into the military, we took an oath to obey the Constitution without exception, unless the orders given were unconstitutional. And Joe, we've all seen had some of those unconstitutional orders. And I'm not sure.

of the number, but in this uh documentary it says eight eight thousand, right? I believe we just said eight thousand. But anyhow. And and so they they were refused to take this unconstitutional and place themselves in danger. And so As Christians, we have sworn to obey even a much higher authority.

Uh than the Constitution And that's the inerrant Word of God, the King James Bible. And today in America And the world we have a plethora of oppressive preachers. Spineless uh that choose to obey a corrupt government rather than The Holy God. and refuse. To stand against an unlawful act such as abortion, sodomy, pedophilia.

etcetera. And most won't even uh won't even preach against these horrible sins. uh they try and justify their Cowardly actions by twisting, spinning, and perverting Romans 13. That's why we went to Romans 13 here. Whether that's the one they use and The New Age Bible perversions twist that Scripture uh purposely to make it say, well, In fact, I had a fellow call in one time.

uh on a radio program that that's set in. It's a long story, but I was in the presence down at Deathrow Pastor Lenz was supposed to be doing the program. He got sick at the last minute. He got a replacement for himself. And this guy actually came on and said As long as abortion is legal, you will not see me to stand against it.

If it's legal, we are not to stand against it. We are to obey the government, okay? And he didn't know I was listing on the way home. And I I gave him a call and uh he wish he had never said that, okay. But anyhow, What did Peter say we must obey God rather than man?

Okay. And folks That's why it is so very important that what we're talking about here. and Laurel I are I think what's happening Joe We're seeing s uh a real big divide in our country today. Those on the right are going farther. Like the Bible says, the righteous will become more righteous and the wicked become more wicked.

And those on the left are going farther to the left, okay? And in between you've got that in between That uh Well That little bit of a weird group in between that don't know the difference between right and wrong and. kind of tend to lean one way and then the other. They're the ones that straddle the fences that don't believe in anything. I heard a guy tell me one time, he says, Well, it's this ignorance and apathy thing.

I don't know anything about it and I don't care to. Yeah. And I mean, that's and that's what's going on, huh? Out there today. Exactly.

But there's no in between. We've got to take a side or run to this battle. All right. I've got to give those numbers, folks. The lines have got to ring tonight.

The phones have got to ring. This is very important. This is Pledge Week and it's very important and we really got off to a late start. eight eight eight two eight one one one one zero Well, I I was seduced by the word of God. That had me we were so Into the word o' God we We forgot it was Pledge Week.

Mr. Ernie? Yes. I want to tell people that's happened before because first and foremost. We're here to preach the word, to warn the people, be the watchman on the wall.

And that always comes first in the mind The raising money is yeah, you'd think it'd be on our mind during pledge week, but this has happened to us before. it's happened to you because the word of god comes first and foremost And that's what makes this ministry different from most of the others on air. It's we're not symbolism over substance. We're f we actually truly believe what we're doing, huh? Right, and we don't have the built-in automatic commercials every few minutes.

We're selling this, selling that. all the time, every time that the program airs. You do it once a week, try and do it as little as possible to get the funds needed to keep the ministry going.

So Maybe the audience, the people out there listening, will understand we need your support. We need your help. We need to keep this ministry on the air alive and well. I was looking at all the things around me that I was looking at, different stories that are going on. We're living in crazy, crazy times in a world that's falling apart.

And the Word of God needs to be preached now more than ever in my lifetime. No, you're not kidding about that. For letting God's word take precedence over other things. Absolutely right. I wanted to, we have here with us.

When they lead tonight. And Wendy is going to tell us a little bit about what's happened. I was telling these ladies how the VA has really been a blessing to me, Joe. Uh I mean they offer things that I never asked for. They really actually care about SOVETS.

The VA really actually cares about SOVETS. And I know that uh Uh they've been pretty good to you, too. And so But there are benefits and I gotta tell you what we did because we have with uh little Isa and Eric in here. They both, you know, prepare for their burial and l and Wendy works at the funeral home, so when they came in here, I I told him Wendy had her tape she came to measure em. But uh but anyhow But tell us tell us, Wendy, about the the the benefits you have for the V for the pet uh veterans when it comes to burial.

Thanks, Pastor. Yes, I work for DeJohn's funeral home and crematory. And I met you, Pastor. You came in, brought Lisa. And um We started talking about veterans and what we could get for veterans.

And I don't work for the VA, so don't think that I do. I work for DeJohns, but I am a veteran spouse. I come from a family of veterans, so I am very passionate about it.

So I want to make sure, and so does DeJohn's. We are a military company that Ross Dijon actually was in the Army.

So we honor our veterans.

So, one of the things I just wanted you guys to know: if you are a veteran, you know, you are entitled to some veteran burial arrangements. If you have, if you need a burial space, you are entitled to a free burial space. You actually get everything at the Veterans Cemetery if you qualify. You would get a burial space for you and a spouse. You would get your burial vaults.

You would get the opening and closing. That's the excavation of the ground. You would get eventually headstone. If you're being cremated, they have beautiful niches, a niche bank where you could put your cremated remains in.

So everything would be paid for. You would need your DD214. That's your discharge papers.

Now, you can go on VA.gov and find all of these applications. You can actually go on and find out if you qualify.

So maybe you're questioning, I don't know if I have enough time in, or maybe you served in the National Guard and you're wondering if you qualify. You can actually go on, and there is a pre-arranging document that you can download and fill it out. And if you have your DD214, you can email it, fax it, or mail it in and actually get pre-qualified, and they'll tell you exactly what you're entitled to. There are so many benefits out there, and it hurts my soul to think that folks don't know about it. We, you know, veterans, if you're going to a regular cemetery, sometimes cemeteries will give a free burial space to a veteran at a cemetery or at a discounted price.

But you are entitled to a free headstone from the government if you go into a regular cemetery. You still need to have that DD214 to qualify for that. They will charge you to install that headstone, and you may need a base for it to go on, like a granite base. But if you don't have a DD two fourteen or you forgot where it is, don't worry. You can go back on that website and they actually have a form where you can get that DD two fourteen.

So don't don't worry about that. And I will tell you, if there's anybody out there that needs assistance trying to figure this out, I would be more than happy to do this and help you figure that out, those forms out. Um There's also, say, you already got everything, and um. You know, you got your headstone, you got everything, or maybe you have a parent or somebody that has a headstone, and every year comes Memorial Day, and they always get passed up because there's nothing on that headstone that says that they are. A veteran or served in the military because that's how the Boy Scouts and the VFW.

Determines whether a person gets a flag on Memorial Day.

Some of the smaller cemeteries they have a list, but most of the times they're looking for some insignia to put a flag out on.

So they actually. If you already have a loved one out there and they need something to, To show that they were a veteran, there is a claim form for a government medallion that can be placed on that. All you need is that DD214 to get it. There's an application for it, and it comes in three different sizes. It looks like the flag with stars, and then it tells what type of branch of service that you were in.

And it comes with like an epoxy. I would go through the cemetery to have that installed because if for some reason something damages that headstone, then. Of course, they would be liable to fix that. You have to know, guys, I've been doing this 30 years and I started on the cemetery side, so I have a little bit of background. On um The benefits for veterans and um.

And then I moved into the funeral side of things. Uh The other things, as I was going through, not only do you have these burial things, guys, you also have, if you're having trouble. Like, if you're going to the VA for medical purposes, if you're having trouble paying for gas, you can even get reimbursed for your gas. You can um Uh, there's a form that you fill out. You have to be under a certain income level, but you can get some of those funds reimbursed back to you.

I got to jump in here for a minute.

Okay. And give that number. That number is 888. Two eight one one one one zero that's credit card line. Or to 216-901-0933.

Mac or Jack in Michigan pledges 400. Thank you, Jack. And folks, again, I remind you. The Chaplain and the Clergy of the Revolution by J. T.

Hedley. This book is absolutely dynamite. Uh again, was Karl Marx a Satanist? If you want to These young people that that all of a sudden don't know any better think that all that this new new thing to them, socialism, is a is a great thing, it's never been tried, yeah. Folks, let me tell you, This book here tells you, shows you exactly where it started, what it's all about.

but the chaplains and the clergy of the Revolution You have one hundred one. Um Sermons And it uh tell anybody. I actually heard I've actually heard some preachers saying that the pastors at in the early church were Uh They were rebelling against God and they never should have broke away from. Britain. They really believe that.

I had a chaplain who I've known for years and years, Um Actually tell me and this was during the time when George Bush was President, That if Uh Jesus Christ was here right next to us today, he would obey George Bush. He actually told me that, okay. And see, in some of these uh Folks This is what's gotten into some of these seminaries. And some of these ministries, in order to get into into the prisons out there today. We spent But we're still in the prison ministry, but I spent forty five years going up to to minister on death row, we had a team of men Uh doing that.

But some of what they were teaching Some of these prison ministries that I wouldn't have anything to do with Taught you that you had to look the other way when you saw things you shouldn't see, say nothing. And the important thing was whatever you had to do, if you had to compromise, compromise To get in there so So you can minister. And God never wanted us to compromise, never. All right. Uh Denasio?

Did I get that right? Dionysio Signor pledges ten. Eight, eight, eight. 281. One one one zero.

Okay, 216-9010933. Go ahead, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Oh, yeah. No problem. I just want to make sure that our veterans out there are.

Are covered completely because if it was not for them, we wouldn't be on this radio right now. I honor them.

So, We got your veterans, your burial. The other thing that I was, you know, came across is aid and attendance.

So if you have someone that needs help, maybe at home, that needs extra help with daily living skills, or they need help, you know, with some extra help with bathing. Feeding, that sort of thing, you're deciding to go into assisted living or even skilled care. If you fall under a certain income level, they would be entitled to a certain income, and it's pretty substantial.

So there is an application for that as well.

So there is a ton. of benefits out there. For our veterans, and we want to make sure that they get everything that's deserved to them and nothing falls through the cracks. Um So uh That was the main thing that I wanted to say. We are at DeJohn's going to have a uh A flag retirement ceremony on September 12th.

It's the twenty-fifth anniversary of the. The horrible 9-11 incident. Any veterans out there? Please, please come out. We want to honor you.

We are going to have the VFW, the American Legion. We are going to have a flyover from the Ohio State Highway Patrol. We're going to have some folks speaking. And we would love. to pay tribute to you.

and honor you for what you've done for our country. Um if there's any but Anybody out there that needs some kind of help filling any forms out, or you just need help printing them out, please reach out to me. Is it okay if I give my number? Sure, absolutely. My number is 440-278-7117.

That's 440-2777. 278-7117. My name is Wendy Lee with D. John's. I will help you fill anything out.

I have a book that I will give you at no charge to put all your arrangements in. All you need to do is reach out to me and I'll give you a little bit of a break. Coming up for a hard break, Wendy, hang tight. We'll be back right after this. with a whole lot more, so don't go away.

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