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The legendary voice of the Christian Resistance. on this august fourth, twenty twenty six, and uh to night At the helm steering the program is my producer, Style. Hey, Style. Hey, Bastard. And uh tonight I have two lovely guests with me.

Tonight Uh my special guest is Judy Harness, President. Of Right to Life Action Coalition of Ohio and uh From Chillicothe, where I've spent many, many times many days in Chili Coffee visiting to the prisons there. And that she was her nursing background, Ohio State University researcher, specialist, certified in Reproductive restorative reproduction medicine. And wife to Danny, and mother to and grandmother. And then we have.

A long time, friend. Uh we've been Together now, since about nineteen sev seventy three, Um And T is the president of Right to Life Action Coalition of Ohio Education Fund. And she Well, anyhow, she's the wife of Luke, who passed away, went home to be with the Lord, and mother and grandmother. and a wonderful lady. Both of these two are wonderful ladies.

And one of the things that um That has been a blessing in working. I've been working in the pro-life movement since it started. In fact, we were together when it started. But working with pro-life ladies, they're ladies, not like. Those I've had to go up against out there, uh Not like the feminists, and these ladies don't want to hurt me like Hillary.

But anyhow. Welcome to the program, ladies. Check. Yeah. Really glad to be here.

Thanks.

Alrighty, we have a you never know what's gonna happen here, huh? Hey, listen, I I I left left you a text. That we were going to be in Romans chapter 7. I don't know if you got it. I probably left it late.

Yep, nope, we've got it.

Okay, well, if you've got your Bibles there, it'd be go good to go along with us. And we're going to get right into the scripture. And we're gonna pick it up where we left off and That's in verse 7 of Romans chapter 7. Uh seven Yeah. What shall we then say?

Is the law sin and God forgid. Nay, I had not known the sin, but by the law, for I had not known The lust Except the law said had said Thou shalt not covet.

Well Here one of the functions that's one of the many functions of the law. I was uh saying that um Here That the functional is to Reveal what sin really is. And Uh Here we go to verse eight. But sin taketh occasion By the commandment Rod and me. In all manner of concupiscence.

for without the law sin was dead. And do you ladies know what cucupicises? It means A very strong sexual desire. It's about a very strong sexual sympathy. The Apostle Paul.

Being a man and being in his situation. Um he was talking about The sins of the flesh here Um The old A man.

Now we're talking about two types of law here. We're talking about Well actually we're talking about three types of law. We start out in verse one. by saying Know you not, brethren, for I speak to them that know the law. how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth.

Now He's talking here to believers that are um Jewish believers. and of course they were under the Mosaic law, But also, are they they were under Mosaic law at the same time? Being Born again, receiving Christ, And you read that in uh Here In verse 4, Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law of the body. That's the letter of the law. That's the letter of the law.

Uh Of Christ, that you should be married to another, even to him that is raised from the dead. that we should bring forth fruit unto God. And so he's referring to there because he's using the analogy of marriage here. And he starts off by saying if uh Uh if a woman which had her husband is bound By the voice, Um, as long as her husband's so I liveth.

So both under the Uh mosaic law and under At that time the civil law there Uh in Rome. That uh Mm-hmm. As long as the husband was alive, the wife would have would stay with him, was bound by the law just to stay with him. And so here now he goes on to say, bouncing back to verse 9. For I was alive without the law once, But when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.

So he's talking about dying to the letter of the law.

Okay. And being alive. Under the spirit of the law. And so It's one. What do you ladies think?

Do you think that The letter of the law is still alive today.

Well Hmm. All right, let me ask you this. Go ahead. I was just going to say, this is Judy. I think that This recently has been, I've been hearing a lot about this and learning more about.

the Jewish people and the Jewish tradition that really died When Christ was resurrected and and started the new letter of the law. which we follow as Christians. and the temple's never been rebuilt.

So The letter of the wall has been re reborn or or renewed. uh through Jesus Christ and That's the only way now to get to get to heaven. You follow Him.

Well. Ear. Uh You're kind of on the right track, but you gotta backwards. See, we're actually Through Christ, we are under the spirit of the law. We are under the spirit of the law.

The letter of the law was the Mosaic law. Right, right. And so what happened. Uh I was I remember one time I was challenged on this. Teaching, speaking at a Christian academy, senior class, and I had two young p st students that it was an amazing thing because My talk was only an hour, but I was I was there two hours after that answering questions for these young young people.

But the interesting thing, so I had this young woman stand up, and I was referring through the Lord the Old Testament and say, Uh there is no longer Any letter of the law. There is no law. I said, Really? And so the young man stood up and he said, That's right. Uh we're we're under the spirit of the law.

And I says, Why? Why are why are we under the spirit of the law?

Well, because we got saved, as it says right here, Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law of the body of Christ, but that you should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead. uh who should bring forth fruit unto God.

Well, Yeah.

So I says so. Yeah. That means you mean once we're saved, they were under. The spirit of the law, that's correct. And we're no longer under the letter of the law, that's correct.

So then is everybody saved? Uh They just looked at each other. I said, What about those people that aren't saved? More more people are not saved than are saved, okay?

So those people that are not saved, they're still going to be judged by the letter of the law. Quicker.

Now when you're judged by the letter of the law, Uh is there any future in that at all? No, because let me go on and I'll tell you why right here. It says And the commandment which was ordained to life. I found to be unto death.

So What do you think he meant by the commandment which ordained to life? The law. Uh was given us had Not sin entered into Adam and Eve. They would have lived forever under and they would have been under the letter of the law, God's law. But sin entered in And so What?

the law being perfect being perfect And then Adam and Eve at that point No longer were perfect.

So the letter of the law The only thing he could do to them would be to c to judge and condemn them, eh? Yeah, right. Yeah. So he says here For sin taketh occasion By the commandment, deceived me. And it slew me.

Wherefore the law is holy. And the commandment is holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin that it might appear sin.

working death of me By that which is good. that the sin of the commandment Might become exceedingly sinful, okay. No, when we talk about exceedingly sinful, he went back, you were talking about When I was over there in verse 4, we dealt with Uh we talked about bringing forth the fruit unto God. The fruit he's referring to is obedience, good works, good works.

Okay. Okay. So in the pro-life movement We're out there doing exactly what God's Word, the Bible, says, rescuing those being led to slaughter, drawn to death, being a voice for the voiceless, right? And so we're bringing forth that, of course, the Great Commission. but now those on the other side Those on the other side, those on the left, They're they're That they are bringing forth Nothing but Evil works.

They're still under The letter of the wall And they're they're not even aware. They're not even aware. of the spirit of the law in most cases. They're clueless.

So he goes on to say here Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. but sin that it might appear sin worketh the death in me by that which is good. It's sin by the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual, But I am carnal, sold, under sin For that which I do I allow not.

For what I would do, that I do do, but what I hate, that I do. Trust me. You know, Paul recognizes that the law is spiritual because it's God's law and he is carnal, a slave to the power of sin. But he also recognizes that Christians have the will uh one to serve God. and the other to serve sin.

We have that.

So have you ever seen two things here? Do you ever seen uh in an eagle's nest, when when an eagle lays her eggs. And there's usually like three or four, you know, little chicks. There's uh usually a runt in there. There's usually one small one.

and then there's usually one who's the biggest one. And When the mother comes with the food, that's the one that gets the food, he gets stronger. and the runt seems to get weaker. And That's the way it is, you know, in the wild. Mm.

And it it's the same thing with whichever Um Man, the old man or the new man That you you feed. In other words, if uh the more you feed The m the good man Yeah. your spiritual, your new man, he will become stronger, it'll become easier to do good. And that's the way you talk, the way you walk, and everything in your life, the way you live your life, your attitude. But when you give in to sin, when you give in to temptation, The more you do it, the easier it is, and the stronger the old man becomes.

And when it says here For that which I do I allow not for what I would that I do. Not but what I hate that I do. Mm-hmm. Uh it's really amazing thing because I had a a friend I g I grew up with. We were kids together.

And I'll I'll never forget this because this fellow Um He worked he he he ended up being a a tough guy. He spent about the last thirty something years in prison. And he he was He had a really, really bad childhood, and I don't want to go into it, but it was a very bad childhood. He was. really uh mistreated.

But he ended up being one of the roughest, toughest characters you ever want to run into.

Now, One day when I came into my office, it was still early in the morning, it was still dark. And uh I had a f furniture store. He worked there for me. And I heard I heard this weird sound. And uh I thought, What in the world is that?

And so I went in, I followed it into my office. He had a h a history of pranking, you know, and a lot of times sometimes the pranks were funny and sometimes they weren't. But he's sitting at my desk and he's got this little light there on my desk and he's got the Bible open. And I come up there and I says, What are you up to here? And he was crying here this to see this guy cry.

Well, I'm going to tell you, you wouldn't, you never would have expected to ever see him cry, but he was crying. And he said, This is me, this Paul.

Now I had been witnessing to him for a long time. And he He pointed out and he said, This is me, this Paul, this is me, he said. For I know that in me that is in my flesh dwelleth no good thing, for to do will. is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not, but the evil which I would not that I do.

He said, this is me. He says, No matter how hard I try to do good, I don't. I wanna do good. I I wanna do good. I want I want a m I want to help people.

I want people like me, he said, but I can't. And he said, All I even do is end up doing is evil. And right there is where he got saved. Right there is where He said the sinner's prayer right there and He got saved. But it was kinda late because he had already been Committed a number of crimes and they were already looking for him and he spent over 30 years in prison.

But um Anyhow, I'm gonna stop right there. With this cheerful story. And we're going to pick it up here. I'll pick it up. Go ahead.

But praise praise God that he came around when he did. I mean You know, you you hardly I I rarely think about all of this in regard to Just being pre-saved and then being saved, that you're still under the old law, but you certainly are until you finally make that commitment. Yeah. Praise God he did it.

Well, the thing of it is is You know, our sins are forgiven. past, present, and future, when you get saved. But At the same time, even though they're forgiven uh Uh that doesn't mean you don't sin. You still sin. But what is required there's There's forgiveness, but there's always consequence.

There's always consequence to sin. And I think probably One of the uh Best passages of Scripture that that refers to that uh is over in uh First Corinthians chapter three. In the first Corinthians chapter three, We read this. Um if a man's work abide When he is he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, He shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved.

yet is by fire.

Now He's referring to Uh at the BEMA seat judgment. you know, the topic came up that the topic came up that Uh they asked me um If a man committed suicide Would he go to hell? No, not if he was saved. If he was saved, he would not go to hell. You cannot lose your salvation.

You can't lose your salvation. it isn't a very good reason for that. because the G Bible says one is kept in heaven by God, Jesus Christ is the sealer, the Holy Spirit Himself is the seal.

So, you can't lose your salvation. I've heard people say, Yeah, but you can. You can give it away. No, you can't do that either. You'd have to be able to, if you're truly saved, Find a way to get to the third heaven and wrestle it away from God, and that's not likely, okay?

Yeah. And so That's it, but there's always consequences. And what he's talking about here, wh whether your works be of gold, silver, or precious stones, or wood, hay, and Stubble. And um So, in other words, it's what the value of your works. See, if you take because your works are going to be tried by fire.

And if you take gold and s and uh silver and precious stones, you You put it under the fire, they become pure. But you take wood hay and stubble and put it under the fire and it goes away. And I'm gonna stop right there. And we will be back right after this, I ain't telling. Um On a cold winter's morning.

on a sidewalk in the city. A lost soul approached me. as the snow was getting deep. I could see the look of death in you. It was there in her eyes now.

as I begin to preach. She began to speak. She said, Peter, I'll admit it. I come to kill my baby The whole world is telling me. But I have that right.

But deep down inside me I have to read. what you're freeing. Children are a gift of God we Gotta give them light.

So I put my arm around And I gave her the gospel. It was right there. In the darkness that she received a light. These souls were saving them. Was her and her baby.

If you're called to do the Lord's word, you know. Better learn to do it right. You guys can know the movie. Not just the police. This is no fun or why?

Away the best rock, you had Joe Wesley. He was able to keep her of your soul. He's got the Son Now every preacher knows your rock is salvation. I'll separate the ghost from all the shit. All men are sinners, they all need a Savior.

See only one to trust in, but your soul that you'll keep. And when I finish, the preacher woman was a believer. A baby in her womb I knew she would keep. And now, 25 years later, her baby is a young creature. She's very proud of the baby that she decided.

You got to know how to please him Not just to please him Don't try and walk away Reason why you're ain't a bigger of your soul He's got something You got to know how to please Not just to please him Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run. You better count your blessings. And do it while you're able He's the keeper of your soul He's got the son You got to know you how.

Now chose the beats of the Don't try and walk away. There's nowhere to run. You better come with your love. Freezing while you're able. He's the keeper of his soul and he's got the soul.

Amen. Do you remember that song Lend Up? I made that back, I believe it was back in the eighties. That's an old one, Pester. That was that was on one of the very the first C D I think we made that was one of the songs on that.

Yeah. Oh, my God. That was boy, the years. The years just keep flying by. Boy, do they.

I mean, they really have been and uh But you ladies, we got a gala that's coming up. And uh tell us all about it. Oh, well, I want you to know Judy here because Judy is going to explain what we're doing. It is going to be so fun. But it was her brainchild, and she actually thought about doing it a couple of years ago.

Pastor Ernie, do you remember when we did our Our um founder salute two years ago. You came down for it in Columbus.

Well, at that time we were even considering doing this, but we put it off, and it's worked out great to do it this year with the 250th birthday. Of our country. It's worked out great.

So, this was Judy's idea for a couple of years, and now she really has pretty much put this together. Judy's our president from Rights of Life Action Coalition. She's on the C4 side. I'm on the C3 side, which is the education side.

So, we work together side by side on all of the issues, always protecting life from the moment of fertilization with no compromise. Straight across the board.

So Judy is a great woman. You are going to just love her. She's down in Killicothe area. Her husband actually has worked in the prison down there.

So maybe you've seen him somewhere along the line. You'll love Danny as well, and he's going to be at the Gala with us.

So, Judy, do you want to go ahead and kind of explain what we're doing with the Gala so that folks know what's happening? I sure would love to. Thank you. And, Pastor, it sounds like you had been down to the Chillicothe area, I heard you say in the intro. You probably have walked past my husband maybe a time or two.

He retired out of Roth Correctional after. thirty two years down there.

So uh that's a long time. But We're very excited about the gala. The idea is for Ohioans, really, that Uh love life. That have worked hard for any life issues to join us to celebrate this remarkable year of. 250th anniversary of our country.

but really focusing on the life and liberty, which go hand in hand.

So we just want to invite and welcome everybody that needs to join us. At the historic Valleydale Ballroom, which is in Columbus, Ohio. It's on Sunbury Road. This ballroom has been home to entertainers Since the turn of the century, including Everybody that you can think of, Frank Sinatra, the Rat Pack. Um on Glenn Miller band, uh Jim uh Tommy Dorsey.

I can't even name them all, but their pictures are up all around the ballroom. And so it's kind of a a throwback feel. To kind of what you used to see, what I used to see on TV when I was growing up watching old TV shows like I Love Lucy. Ricky had the Copacabana. To be able to go out and have a feel like that, that's kind of the aura in the building, and to hear a great orchestra.

Play music for us and entertain us, and there's going to be some patriotic themes, but a lot of dance music. Um for everybody that would like to dance. But just really, again, an opportunity to share time together. We just need to. have a chance to relax not Might focus on talks about Abortion and assistant suicide, which are important topics for sure.

But we all need a chance to get together and become a community of pro-Life Warriors, and that requires some downtime. And that's really what I was hoping for. I found support within our organization, and I'm talking to people across other organizations. Yeah. Center for Christian Virtues, talked to Peter Range about it, just talked today to Carrie.

Snyder with Ohio Right to Life, and it sounds like Carrie's going to be able to join us. And I just this is just the Holy Spirit moment to unite the people that work so hard to protect and defend life in Ohio. And they deserve a treat, and we deserve a treat. And we hope we make some money to help support what we do, but. Honestly, I think we all agree that this is just a chance to.

To knock down some walls, maybe, and become better, stronger together, yet apart, because we all have our own organizations. Really, I want to just invite everybody to come out and have a good dinner with us and a good evening.

Well, like you said, it's kind of an R R and R, if you will. It has been. I mean, the the battle the battle continues. We fight every every day on the radio. We still have p uh push the pro life movement out there.

And we still have our people on the streets every single day out in front of those abortion mills. Uh and we're still still saving babies. And so but it's It's right. It's it's good to have um an R and R uh if you will, uh to get together. and go over old times.

Like, um like Linda Linda and I know that There's not many of us left from The original board. Uh That's right. As a matter of fact, Pastor Ernie, I was just thinking tonight. I'm sitting here at my desk and I've got that picture that you sent me of you and I at Ohio Rights of Life when we were on the board back in 1974, five. I don't know.

It's way back. I'm going to bring that to the gala and we're going to put it on our table because you're going to sit at my table. And so I'll bring it and put it on the table so we can all laugh about the old days. I love it. That's a great idea, Linda.

It's really, it's just really going to be fun. We have, it's not a political event at all, but we do, though, we do have a lot of legislators that want to come.

So, we'll have some sort of influential people there, though it's not going to be a political thing. You know, we'll recognize that they're there. We're going to get some awards to some folks and some recognition for the things that they've been doing, you know, to help and the movement. And then we're also going to do a really fun auction. We've got some beautiful items that we're doing.

I got one of those. pictures of George Washington on his horse at Belley Forge. And it's it's it's the two hundred and fiftieth. Um for this celebration for the 250th. We got the print and got it got it framed and it is beautiful.

And that'll be one of the things that we'll have on the auction. And we have a flag that's flown over the Capitol in Washington and some other some other patriotic things that we're going to do.

So it's just going to be a fun evening. We're going to have a great Italian clezbine and Italian cookies and Just get a chance to everybody be together and celebrate the birthday and celebrate life and liberty with all of our friends from across the state.

So we hope that you'll come. Anybody who's interested in coming, we do have sponsorships that are available as well. We can get all that information to you, though, if you go to our website. If you go to RTLA Ohio. That's rtlaohio.org.

All the information is in there. The cost is going to run $100 a ticket, though. It's only $150 for two. And we know that's gone up a little bit, but we're pretty low by comparison to a lot of other fundraisers now, too. You know, you're not going to go anyplace and get entertainment all night with an 18-piece big band and two singers and dinner and all of that for.

For any lesson, that's for sure. And this way, you can support life and liberty. It'll just be a fun evening. All right, two questions. One, Uh Yeah.

Now, be honest, that picture that you're going to bring, and you're going to put that on the table. Do you do you wish that we still looked that way? Oh boy, do I. All right. Of course I do, Pastor.

What are you thinking? Listen, I've got a lot of there's a lot of folks out there listening, believe it or not, are not on the Internet. We have we have listeners that have no television, And they have, we have listeners that still have only a landline, okay. But they have radios. And here so they they're going to need, since they don't have the internet, a little bit more information like.

the date and the the location Can you give us some of that? Yeah, we can do it. Yeah, so September the 4th, it's the Friday night of Labor Day weekend on purpose. We wanted to. Turn Labor Day.

We know that's about work, but it also happens to be what happens to a woman when she has a baby.

So it's kind of a cute weekend to try to do this.

So Labor Day weekend, Friday night. begins to open the doors to open. I think we said 5.30. At the historic Valley Dale Ballroom, which is on Sunberry Road. It's right down the street from Ohio Dominican College in Columbus, Ohio.

And um You can look that up pretty easily on a map. It's been around for a very long time, like I said, early 1900s, I believe. And uh Yeah, if they want if they don't get on the computer or they don't have access to the computer, um, they could uh Send an email, I suppose, to Me or Linda, maybe get a hold of you, Pastor Ernie, and you can tell them how we can get back to them. We can make a phone call or whatever needs to happen. I could even give my cell number right now over the phone over the radio if that would be helpful.

I think it would be helpful. Go ahead. All right. Let's do it 740. Six four nine.

Five, two. Yeah. And if you don't get a hold of me, if I don't answer, because I don't recognize your number, please leave me a message and I'll call you back and we'll take care of you. We'd love to have you come. And for people that are traveling kind of far away, if you're more than a couple hours, maybe you don't want to go back home that night.

We have worked with the Holiday Inn at the airport for a reduced rate for an overnight stay at the Holiday Inn there.

So, I can give that information as well if you call me. And it's also on our website. If you do have a computer, go to the website. Thanks.

All right, it's I may just do that because uh I'm gonna have to course Uh What time is see? What it starts at 5:30. What time does it go to? I think we said we ended at 11. But you can leave whenever, you know, I mean, if you need to get out of there a little bit earlier than that and get over to the hotel and get a good night's sleep, you know, that'll work.

And there is a reduced rate that ends at the end of next week.

So or actually, I think by Monday.

So make sure you get that taken care of. You can call the holiday in at the airport and ask for the special room rate for the Gava for Life and Liberty, and they'll take care of you. Already. Yeah, I would need to uh get out and be because get on the radio and tell p everybody around the country. What I just was at.

Okay. And so the last time was was great. And so again, that's uh the Valleydale Ballroom. That's September fourth, starts at five thirty, goes to eleven, and that's at Sunbury Road. And uh Yeah.

Okay. All right. Okay. We're just going to have a really, really fun time.

So anybody who's interested in coming, come. And if you can't and you want to help support us, we would be more than happy to accommodate you as well from that perspective. We do have sponsorships available. And we have a lot of things that we That we need to put on the agenda for next year to get done. We're doing more.

Um, baby boxes, you know, the safe haven baby boxes across the state. We'd like to put, you know, one in each one of our five districts around the state next year. We have students. apologetics classes and coursework that we'd like to offer scholarships for for students. And we'd like to get billboards up near the abortion facilities, plus the ones that are that are chemical abortion facilities as well and universities.

Um about abortion till reversal. And there's just so much that needs to be done across the state, and we usually try to help out our local organizations too. We act as an overarching Coalition for the major organizations and a lot of the minor organizations around the state.

So, all of the cities are part of our coalition. Lots of the county organizations are part of it. And so we and we work all as volunteers. from our perspective.

So we don't have an office. We don't have a paid lobbyist. We don't have an executive director. We have a lot of professionals. But they all work.

as volunteers. to pull all this together.

So any dollars that we raise go directly into our services. to help our organizations to do all of this education. A lot of media things need to be updated and done well. We'd like to do some videos. And there are lots of things that we'd like to do educationally next year.

Because even though we passed issue one here a couple of years back, and we can't outlaw abortion per se in Ohio, there are a lot of things that we can be doing. We can be looking into what's going on with the water systems. You know that we've got the chemical abortions. situation is going right into our sanitary system. Here, just like they are all across the country.

So, there are a lot of things that we can be doing in Ohio to bring people's attention to all of the different implications of abortion and all the way to the end-of-life issue, too. Because just recently, as many of you have seen across the United States, You know, they're bringing up the assisted suicide stuff everywhere, and it has been introduced in Ohio as well.

So we're putting together a coalition to work on that. Judy's been working on that really hard over the last couple of weeks in particular.

So we have a lot of work to do. And if anybody wants to help us out with any of that, we would be most appreciative.

Well, you know, today's the fourth and uh September fourth we have a month Uh we need to promote this big time between now and then. And yeah, we've been um especially uh where it comes to um The euthanasia, I've I've done many programs on that. And we're going to continue. But you're right, they're pushing hard at the culture of death. It's the culture now.

Here uh with you know with this communism rising And people don't understand communism. You know, you y I had um One of the things we have that we give uh But that we mail out when we have fledge week. It's a book called was Karl Marx a Satanist by Richard Wirmbrand. I had I had Richard Wirmbrand on my radio program. He he's the one that wrote the book Tortured for Christ.

In fact, he wrote several and his and his son both Of my program. He testified before Congress. I remember it was back, I believe, in the. Late seventies, early eighties. Uh he was sh he took his shirt off right there at the floor of the house on the house yeah, and showed the holes in his back where they had stuck hot irons in him.

But um here people don't realize it The communism they say it didn't start with Karl Marx. Communism is Satanism. Communism is Satan. Everything uh effect Karl Marx was a hard core Satanist, and so so was Stalin and Lenin. They were all hardcore Satanists and a lot of people don't realize that today.

And these young people you know, they're this indoctrination thing And the worst part of it is is being mostly led by college ed educated white women. Many of them that are coming out here And here's what's happening. They're taught that they They they are educated, so they should be in charge. But they're not educated, they're indoctrinated. and they don't know the difference, so they come out and they can't understand why they're why people don't listen to them.

Why they're not in charge. I mean, they come out, they majored in women's studies or something like that, and and they don't understand that. And why the men now are going in the other direction, these younger guys, they're going to trade schools for the most part.

Now some of these young women are are learning that.

Now they're starting to go to trade schools too, but But the men have been going and that's where the money's the money's in the trade schools, but This whole thing, one of the major things with communism is depopulation. That is, they're they're taught very clearly that Uh the bourgeoisie. And the bourgeoisie, ladies, are capitalists. They're what they call people that have earned their. Capitalist.

and they're taught that You know, Marx and Lenin both taught that. that it's morally acceptable Two Kill the capitalists and take their property because they became Wealthy over the backs of the proletariat. And this is a mindset that's out there more and more of these people. And so I mean, we have some real crazies and what's happened is They have hooked up now. They formed an a confederacy, an unholy alliance with radical Islam.

And it's what they call the red-green alliance, okay? And um There They they they come right out and they say, The enemy of my enemy is my friend and and They referred to The uh The Saturday people and the Sunday people are the enemy. That's the Christians, the Jews, and the Christians. And so this is why it's it's right now because there's a big movement on. And that movement is death.

That movement is depopulation.

So we really got to get gear it up for a battle, don't we?

Well, Pastor, you remember many years ago when we first started doing all of this, people would say, why do you just work on this abortion thing? There are other things to work on. And we used to tell them, and I still tell them today, everything is based on life. everything. If we're willing to kill our offspring, we will do anything.

And look what has happened over the years. Look what's happened.

Now we're at the same point with the elderly and the people who are ill. Um you know we're we're trying to To kindly make them feel like they have a responsibility to die and get out of the way. And it's all done with a little bit of compassion. Just a little bit to make it look like You know, like we're so kind. It's just like the choice word that they used for, you know, the whole abortion question.

It's the same thing here, it's the same kind of compassion that they want to use.

So we've got to take that narrative back, and we've got to be gaslighting people from our perspective on the truth. The truth instead of all the propaganda, because what they're getting now is straight propaganda. You're exactly right. Exactly. It is.

And well, you know, just north of the border there in Canada since 2016. They've had over two hundred thousand euthanasias. Two hundred thousand. And you know, in Canada's not n th they don't have that large population. And here but some of these are are Uh depression.

And and and some of these these young These young girls That are being dep you know, having depression, they're allowed to kill themselves. You know? Oh yeah. when all they'd have to do is have a, you know, change of scenery, you know, get out of their depression. But it's a It's an amazing thing, but so Oh.

So we're still here, we're still still uh going to carry this fight on until the Lord takes us home, aren't we? You betcha. You betcha. And in the meantime, we keep trying to bring people to Jesus because if we can bring people to Jesus, they will get it. If they don't come there, sometimes you just have to dust your sandals off and go to the next one because we spend a lot of time working with the people that are already given over, and that's no good because it's a waste of our time and energy.

We just need to keep moving and keep a positive attitude and just keep bringing the truth to life, the truth to life, because that's what will bring them to Jesus. And if they come to Jesus, then they'll out they'll get it. They'll get it. They'll understand. Absolutely.

You know, though, One of some of the the best was you know, workers or warriors we've had. in the ministry are are these women that have killed their babies, you know. And and once they get saved, Uh they're Well, they're some of the very, very staunchest pro-lifers there are. I know, because we've. We've uh had several of them that were killed their babies and listened to this radio program.

And got saved. Got saved by listening to the radio program. See, that's you know, again. The Bible says that judgment begins in the house of God, and in that house it begins in the pulpit. And let me tell you, the responsibility more than anybody else belongs to the pastors in this country.

They have failed God more than anybody. They have failed God more than anybody. And uh Here, and that's where they need to repent. Lack of courage, a lack of courage, afraid to. to preach with boldness.

And you know what? The the Bible says about when it comes to abortion Here's what the Bible teaches, and you find this there. Um in the No Eight Covenant. When God gives you the five points of divine human government, and the third point is the most important because the third point is the entire purpose. The entire purpose of divine human government was to preserve the image of God, that being man.

That was the entire purpose. The other four points was who would. Was and uh the the means by which man was to govern for God. And so on. But um And here's what it says It says about abortion by an abortion that if you commit an abortion, one, You deserve to die you deserve to die too.

If you're unrepentant, you deserve to burn in hell. That's what the Bible actually teaches. And so People need to understand the seriousness and these preachers need to preach. The hardness of that message, okay, and so. if they did that.

I had a A Presbyterian preacher tell me one time He said, You know, I I agree with everything you preach on the pro-life. But he's I could never preach at my church. He said, Because he said, I've had so many women in there that have had abortions. I would offend so many of those women. And I asked him, I says, Do you think maybe if you'd been preaching against that horrible sin, you wouldn't have so many women in there that had committed that?

And he said, You make a good point. Pastor Ernie, I had that very same thing happen to me one time when a pastor has. He wouldn't run some things in a bulletin for us for January 22nd. And we went over to meet with him and asked him, why not? And he said, because I know all the people in this congregation who have had abortions, and I don't want to make them feel worse.

I said, but pastor. If you don't tell them the truth, And aren't we about forgiveness? We offer forgiveness. We don't condemn them. We condemn the sin, but we offer forgiveness.

And if we don't offer the forgiveness, they're going to sit in those pews and just never, ever deal with it at all. And then you're going to end up with many more people in your congregation because they won't know the truth on the inside of things before they make the decision.

So you're, I think you're just exactly right. I think they're afraid to offend anybody, but We have to tell the truth. We have to do it in kindness and in love, but the truth is still the truth. And we have to offer. a way out, and that's where the hope and the trust in Jesus comes.

I mean, that's the freedom that they're looking for. And we owe that to them. We owe that to them from our perspective when we're working in the pro-life movement. And the pastors and the priests owe that to their congregations as well when they stand in front of them and talk about the Word of God. It's really unfortunate that so many have gotten gotten very woke and are afraid to deal with it because that leaves people vulnerable in the pews.

Well, you're absolutely right. And and I and I I know that Again, over these years um We have I can actually say, like it says in Second Timothy chapter three. Uh you know we've Our chapter f yeah three. We run a good we've Fought a good fight, we run a good race. I know I can say that about you and so many of the people there.

Uh on the in the pro-life movement. They're dedicated and they'll hear those words, Well done, my good and faithful servants, some day. I'm coming up to a break here. Uh it's just a hard break. It won't it's a very short break.

And when we come back. How much time do I have there? Style. When we come back from that break, I'm gonna uh I want you ladies to give it again, tell the folks exactly that uh Yeah. The time and the place and everything and what What's going to go one more time and then if you Want to stay with me?

I'm going to do some lightning rounds for the rest of the program. Uh and you ladies are welcome to stay with me uh uh if but I know it's late, but uh You ought me just be my co-host. How's that sound? Oh, thanks, Pastor. I don't know.

I've got a really early morning, so I might zip off. Before the end, I might stick around for a little bit if I can. Thanks.

All righty.

Well, all righty.

Well, we're coming up to that break, so as soon as we get back, give us. Give you a commercial again, and then you can stick with me for a little while and go get your beauty sleep.

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