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This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left: The Voice of the Christian Resistance. on this tenth day of april twenty twenty six. And uh tonight folks You know, he's taken the Friday night challenge again. fearlessly, fearlessly The mighty Andrew as our producer.
Hey, Andrew. Hey, Pastor, and everyone. You're there. You're not going to back down tonight, are you? Oh, absolutely not.
There you go. He's ready to face the darkness. And he's a man Of indubitable character. A man of many, many talents whose Fame reaches far beyond this radio broadcast. none other than big John McTernan.
Well, Mr. Ernie. Thank you for those accolades. I appreciate it. Keep them coming.
And God bless you and all our listeners. May this be a great show. Amen. I wanted to take a quick mention too for just a couple. a very special ladies who have gone home to be with the Lord.
But in doing so they also Uh left it an inheritance to to this radio ministry and to doers of the word church. and that's uh two fine l wonderful ladies Carla Hawson. any hole. And th and they did this uh a couple of years back but I just felt like just giving him a a heads up because they've been in heaven for a while. Anyhow, John, we need to really start off in prayer and ask all the folks out there.
tonight to pray with us because Uh yeah. You know how the enemy attacks. I mean One of the things that and I can ab absolutely say that in over fifty years we haven't had one boring day and and just in just a little more than six weeks Uh here that I had two tornadoes come through my yard. Believe it or not, John, there are people that have lived out there without ever having one tornado come through the yard. And uh but I had Two of 'em.
in less than two months. And then Legis by a by a hair by By God's grace, I had a flood diverted. It got right up to the to the level of spilling over And it stopped. It stopped. And so That, I know, was a miracle from Almighty God, so I want to just thank the good Lord for that.
But let's pray tonight and get the folks out there with us because it is Friday night. And you know how the things that have happened. Last week we we did good. Uh, but s j you've had it. Do you ever have those times where You can just feel evil lurking by.
Are you asking me? Yeah, you're the only one out here with me.
Well, that's true. I didn't really realize that. I'll tell you where I really felt it at the abortion center. Oh, yeah. That that was the place of evil where they sacrificed children.
sacrifice children to their god of greed.
So yes, that's I mean you could you could There was an aur the evil aura around it. Yeah. Yep, you're not kidding about that. I know many, many years a The four Forty-five years I spent on those streets like you have in in front of those abortion mills. We saved many, many babies.
We preached the gospel. And uh we had a lot of excitement there too. We're How many times did they try to kill us out there, but Uh god intervened in the There's nothing can happen to us until he allows it. When he allows it, that's the time we go home, right?
So We so we have to be fearless. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because the Bible says the righteous are as bold as lions. But let's let's pray.
And I'm going to ask all the folks out there to join with us. And and help us says we have a a situation Our phone system has crashed. And uh We are there in the process of replacing the entire system.
Next week is Pledge Week. Pledge with and without the new phone system, folks We're dead in the water on Pledge Week. We have to have those phones in on Pledge Week. And so I'm going to pray and and ask all you folks out there to help us. We've been here And I can honestly, honestly say We're fifty one years now.
We have never, ever compromised Never once have we given less than our very best. uh in this ministry and we have never, never compromised, never bowed down Never stood down to the enemy. We've always stood our ground and never backed up. And so And all of that time, and is and and we paid a price for it. I mean They've come after us in in every way you can imagine.
physically, emotionally, uh try to kill us. But we're still here and we're still going at it. if ye would join with us. Um and uh and uh Pray. There's much, much power in prayer.
And the more power, the more people that are praying, the more power.
So let's pray. Heavenly Father, Lord God. Lord, I would ask, just as I'm asking, Father, all those folks out there to stand with us, I'm asking you to stand with them, with each and every single one of them. Lord, that are praying here with us tonight, I'm asking you to stand with them too in their time of need. And Lord, I'm just asking too, that that this is Friday night and And Lord, that you, whatever, whatever enemies of the light, whatever the.
The darkness that comes against us tonight, Father God, Lord. that you would disperse it. And I'm praying, Father God, Lord, too, that Uh you keep us on near. Lord God. And and Lord, I'm praying too that uh We were able to meet our financial needs as we need to.
And we thank you and we praise you for more blessings than we could ever count. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. And so Oh Let's start tonight, John. In Ephesians chapter 2.
And um Here We start in in verse 1. Whenever you're there, let me know. I'm ready. In verse one Now this is interesting because A lot of times we don't think about this, but The very first word of verse one and is You know what that word and does, that one word, what it does, it. It ties Uh this statement here with All the previous statements we've read in in chapter one.
Um And so Uh That Christ was raised, Christ was exalted, and at all.
So And you have He quickened. who were dead in trespasses and sins So what do you think that means quickening? Quicken us it means what? It means to say it was raised. To give life, Past Ernie, to bring to life.
Yep. Wherein in times past you walk according to the course of this world. according to the Prince of the Power of the Air. And the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedient.
So let's start with the course of this world. Uh how would you today compare that today w with the the course that w what uh the worldliness out there today. What would you say? The world system, Pastor. It's the world system, all that's out there, lust of the flesh.
close to the eyes and the pride of life. What show? Here I was just reading Uh some of these uh apostate preachers that were saying Well, one of em was Rick Warris. We'll talk about that. Rick Warren.
Remember Rick Warren and The chryslum But they were saying how Uh they they they were asked the question Uh if you go to hell, well you go to hell for committing the son the sins of sodomy. They didn't phrase it that way. They said uh for being gay. Will you go to hell for living as a gay man? Uh unrepentant.
And of course Rick Warden's off The answer was no. What do you think of that?
Well, we gotta go by the scriptures, Pastor and Ian. Of course we we look at um uh Romans chapter one is the ch is the Sort of chapter about that. But also in um What is it? 1 Corinthians chapter 6, Pastor Ernie, where and it says, All that do these will not inherit the kingdom of God. Uh 1 Corinthians 6 deals that deals with Uh we we will be judging deals with us judging angels.
and judging everything. But you're talking about 2 Corinthians chapter 6, starting with. I think verse fourteen through eight eighteen. Oh, you know what? No, you're right.
At the end of that, 1 Corinthians chapter 6, yeah. That's uh I think it started with verse eight, yeah. And it's all that do these things.
So Pastor Ernie hits a question. Outcome Homosexuality gets a pass. with these um I don't know, these preachers there that that are so soft on it, I mean, are they soft on adultery? And it talks about murderers and But and right in that list of sins that'll not inherit the kingdom of God. is homosexuality and they They wanna give it a pass.
It it's like a special scent. Have have you noticed that? That's turning. Yeah, you know, they have they interviewed that pastor that's the Hillsong. Have you ever heard of the Hillsong Church?
Uh yes. And so he was on PU the view. where you have those very, very nasty old women, unclean old women, what they call their programme to view. And of course they asked him You're a Bible teacher. Does your church Condemn women.
for having abortions, in other words And he says, Well, It all depends on uh who the woman is and and the circumstances. In other words, the man that pastor, or I guess he's the former pastor now. He lied. He he sat there and he lied. And why do they do these things?
Because God's word, the Bible, is so very clear, John. It is so there's abortion is a horrible h sin. It's a horrible sin. He tells you very, very clearly That For you to destroy the image of God or transgress God's dominion, You deserve first to die, but And if you're unrepentant, you deserve to burn in hell. I mean It it doesn't stutter.
It's very clear. And yet they'll These pastors will dance around that and they'll And because why were they not saved? You see, if they were saved they'd be bold as lions, and they would be telling the truth. But they're not, and the vast majority of 'em, John. The vast majority of them in the pulpit to day are not saved.
At all. They're not real churches, John. You know it as well as I do. I know as well as you do, but why is Homosexuality a special sin, Pastor Ernest. Why?
I I the verse here is um First Corinthians six five. Know ye not that unrighteousness shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators nor idolaters. nor adulterers, nor effeminate, and that now the way of saying homosexuality, nor abusers abusers of themselves with mankind, nor the thieves, nor covetousness, nor drunkards. nor reviolence, nor extortion is shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Well, they and all those other things they may say is wrong and bad and all this. But when it comes to homosexuality, there's something Uh th there's something special about it to these people.
Well, first of all, Well, many and many of those are practicing that sin. The last verse in Romans chapter 1, the very last verse in Romans chapter 1. It kind of explains that. And many of those practice that sin in the pulpit, okay, especially. with what is called United Church of Christ, okay.
Uh they're loaded with um with lesbians and sodomites.
Okay. And so Well And so, what do they do? You know, you have. The the five worst versions of Scripture, many of those they don't condemn. They really don't condemn the sin of sodomy.
They have some of those to day that actually tell you that At Sodom and Gomorrah, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, not for the sin of sodomy. but for the sin of inhospitality. And so They've taken God's word and they've turned it and they've twisted it and they've spun it and they've perverted it. And that's and and so many of those have done it from the pulpits. You have a tremendous, tremendous dearth.
of courage from the pulpits and the churches And I've and I think John had started back, I think right about in the nineteen sixties, in the early nineteen sixties, is when I think, in my opinion as witness huge lack of courage started emerging from the pulpits. What do you think? I think that's a good point. With the the whole revolution that kinda hit them, yes, Ernie. You know, it it was like uh the dress changed, the music changed.
The um uh remember um Birth control came in, Pastor Ernie, at that time too. The divorce rate the divorce rate skyrocketed. Abortion became legal I mean, huge things happened in the sixties best earnings. Huge. The government of the United States of America, the judicial and the government, they turned their back on God.
Unfortunately, those in a pulpit whose responsibility was uh you know to bring them to task failed. They failed God, failed God, and failed God over and over. But here he goes and he says It uh where he talks about Where the prince in the power of the heir, Now we know the Prince of the Power of the Air is Satan ruling the a vast, vast, vast multitude of fallen angels And you had spiritual wickedness in high places. Uh Which means in heavenly places. opposing God and opposing God's people.
And so Then he says, Go ahead in verse 3. Among whom also we all had our conversational lifestyle. In time spares. in the lusts of the flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, And were by nature the children of wrath even as others. That's really powerful.
That whole section there in Ephesians is powerful.
Well, you're right. That that word there conversation or cake that's the old English Expression for what, like you said, a way of life or a way of life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I I use the word life style for that. Uh And so Then it goes on. Again And among whom all We all had our what w when he says we all had R. He's talking about Every one of us We were all saved to say we but before we were saved we were all lost, huh? Yeah, we were all under the power of sin.
And the penalty of it. And so There was ever never anyone who was sinless besides the Lord Jesus himself, huh? Right, and that's why he could be the savior. He didn't need a savior because he was not under the penalty of sin, he never committed sin. One cent.
So he could be the savior. Everybody. That uh that Sins needed to save you from the penalty of sin, everywhere. And so Here And the good news is only sinners can be saved, huh? And so but now there was a pretty I'm having one of my those.
Senior moments, but there was a pastor, a preacher. He was a preacher. And he had two sons and they had a big radio empire some years ago. And he and I would would kinda go at her from time to time on the air and uh And I can't re I I can't remember his name even though But he spoke with kind of an English accent. He had like an English accent.
And um He would say that he never sins. He would say that I never that he never sins. You know what 1 John says about that. Yeah, I do. And uh I know at first John what does John McTurnet say about that?
Six. No, we're all spins. We've all seen 1 John 1 says, if we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and the truth is not in us. Yeah. And and I would read that to him and we would go back and forth.
And um Where was his show from? Wh where is he from, Fisker? I'm trying to remember. It was uh some some place there up here in the in the northeast, the New England type area, in their area there. But he broadcast it all over.
Uh he passed away Boy, hi his sons took over In fact, uh they wanted me to be on their broad on their network uh But it was an interesting thing too. Uh Because uh he had a A very negative view of women And Uh I'm tr trying to remember. I know we had s had some real problems Uh he believed that women were lesser were lesser people. uh that they they weren't Um and their humanity They were less than men, okay? When you know you know, the Bible teaches the natural order of things, the The man is the head of the house and and uh the and the head of the wife and The parents are the head of the children.
But and that's and that's the the order that God gives us, but In our humanity, the man, the woman, and the child are all equal in their humanity, just like. With the Trinity. In the Trinity, the father gives the marching orders, the Son carries him out. Yeah. And the Holy Spirit provides the power.
But in there divinity They're all equal in their divinity, okay? And their holiness is so And and that's one of the argu and this guy wanted to argue that women were and children were lesser people, if you will.
Okay, and I He came up with some really good stuff, I tell you, we we I Uh-huh. And he was slick in his sense. where he would he would set you up. Uh and in a way to try to gets you to Uh to agree with him, okay? And so Of course I never did, but I got to give him credit.
He has some ways uh with words. And so he goes ahead and he says But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in our sins. hath quickened us together with Christ, By grace are you saved. Uh, you know, it's uh But uh Rick Warren had said He said though. That you won't go to hell for the sin of sodomy, You go to hell because You rejected the grace of God.
uh not for unrepentant sins.
So Is there if there's no repentance, is there any forgiveness? Is repentance required for forgiveness?
Well, Pastor Ernie, when uh the Lord was giving the gospel before his ascension, S He said that repentance and remission of sin should be preached in my name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
So repentance i is It's a requirement. I mean, how can you Like not h how can you go to be with the Lord and not repent of sin.
So, you know who you asked about that? The word of faith movement. The Word of Faith movement, they preach that repentance is not necessary for salvation. Minister Ernie, I remember probably it was the s the group that you were talking about. And th this man was arguing with me Saying that repentance is um works.
Yeah, that was his excuse. Yeah, that's what they say. They'll tell you that. The grace of God, salvation is a gift. And so There's no repentance necessary.
But the very first thing Jesus came preaching was to repent. Or perish. The kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. But how many other times during the the Gospels did he say repent or perish?
A lot of times, and even into the book of Acts, there's a lot of. Uh repentance. Break. Repentance is absolutely necessary for forgiveness. And we'll be right back after the Yeah, you have to give up the sin pastor when you come to Christ.
Very good, we'll be right back after this.
Now you've heard this. Story about the king of kings who was born of a virgin, and above all things, yes, he was, and he wasn't, and he is, and he's yet to come. And how he went to the desert and was tempted thrice By the serpent who was Satan and the father of lies How he did all the things that he did cause he was Yahweh's own son He said, I am the way and the truth and the life.
So they hung him from a tree till he was crucified. Then they carried him and buried him in a tomb three days and three nights long. And with a bang and a clang and a great big boom The angel removed the stone from the tomb, and when they all went looking inside, well, Jesus, he was gone. And now you know there ain't no skeleton. In Jesus' closet.
The Father caused it for the Son to be redeemed. When you're resurrected from the grave, you leave no deposit. Yes, there ain't no skeleton in Jesus' closet.
Now, as the spirit moved and the church caught fire, And the gospel spread through the Roman Empire, That old devils, old world order was turned upside down. It seemed the more that he martyred and he crucified, the more the Holy Ghost of Jesus Christ was multiplied. Until the gospel of the saving grace of Christ was finally spread the world around. All because there ain't no skeleton. In Jesus closet The Father caused it for the Son to be redeemed.
When you're resurrected from the grave, you leave no deposit. Yes, there ain't no skeleton. In Jesus' closet. Hmm.
Now the Muslims say it's down to Aliyabao The Hindus pray they'll come back as a cow The Orientals say only Buddha's the way But what are they gonna say on Resurrection Day?
Now the world's got leaders that are trying to lead But the truth of the matter is they're all deceived Cause they've all got secrets in their past they're trying to hide So when See steps up to make his deals, he threatens to tell all the other big wheels, so they all conspire together to save their own hives. But you know there ain't no skeleton in Jesus closet The Father had caused for the Son to be redeemed When you're resurrected from the grave you No deposit, yes there ain't no skeleton In Jesus' closet, yes there ain't no skeleton. In Jesus' closet. Absolutely, there ain't no skeleton in Jesus' closet. And that's and that's got the Democrats shaking in their boots already.
Uh folks gotta tell you this. Every now and then, John. You run across someone who, a local business, who gives exceptional service and And we have some of those in our area, and they're very good people. And they deserve a heads up and I know This this program was all over the country, but for the folks in the Northeast Ohio, especially the Geography County and and uh Lake County area. Uh there's a business called the Middlefield Sign Company.
And that's out there in Amish country. But There's a fellow who runs a Jacob Lash's And he's very, very he works with us. His dad was a good friend of mine m and his dad died of the At an early age his dad died, but He raised Jacob right and uh Here They they give you really give you your money's worth. Good work. On-time work.
uh and very pro-life cr very pro-Christian. And Jacob is very active. He helps us in the in the pro-life movement. He comes out, they set up the booth and everything, and the big fair for us so we can Save babies. And so I just wanted to say He gets signs, indoor signs, outdoor signs, vehicle decals, banners, magnets.
Um Wide format printing, yard signs, stickers, And again, they do a great job. They've done helped us out a lot, come out and uh put up signs in the church and In the fair so that Smithelfield sign and their phone number in Middlefield, Ohio. If you're looking for signs, And not just that, but those little magnet bumper stickers. I have those o on my car. It tells you if you were to die to day, would you go to heaven or hell?
And I got him big. And boy, I'm going to tell you, a lot of people see those and they'll come up to To talk to me, there's a great witnessing tool. But anyhow, he's got all of those, and those those magnetic bumper stickers are tremendous. But anyhow, folks, the phone number there for for Middlefield's sign is four four zero six three two zero seven zero eight. That's four four zero six three two.
zero seven zero eight If you need a good sign, that's the place to go. Anyhow, Guess who I saw on television today, John? And. Uh it wasn't. One of your A famous famous People Camela, Camela Harris.
Camela, I I'm pretty sure. She was drunk. I I think I I'm pretty yeah. Uh G Gee was trying to sing. And uh she was referring to to President Trump as a gangster.
And uh You can tell when you know when people when they they start feeling good are just You know, hitting that uh point before they are passed out drunk. And but this I'm I'm I'm sure that she was drunk and and this was like eleven o'clock in the morning. But anyhow We have a clip about Camela and the DOJs. Take her away there, handy. Yeah.
About five or six California DOJ agents started stomping through my apartment.
Some of them were armed with AR-15s, some of them had canine dogs with them. Kamala Harris is the single greatest threat to First Amendment civil liberties that our country has ever seen. April 5th, 2016. This is an idyllic Southern California spring day. As I'm walking out to take the kitchen garbage out, I turn around the corner.
and pass a big white Windowless van. All of a sudden, the door swings open, and this tall uniformed guy steps out. He has a piece of paper in his hands, and he says, Are you David DeLeiden? And he says, I'm with the California Department of Justice. We have a search warrant for your home.
And he hands me the warrant. I think to myself, Oh gosh, you know, what's going to happen next?
So, about five or six California DOJ agents started stomping through my apartment. The other five of them standing on the lawn outside.
Some of them were armed with AR-15s, some of them had canine dogs with them. They had come for me. In 2013, I began and orchestrated an almost three-year-long, very in-depth, comprehensive investigative journalism study about the harvesting and trafficking of body parts from late-term abortions. There's multiple violations and multiple issues that you very quickly start to learn about when you look into it. There's the basic problem of selling body parts, where you're basically creating a system, creating transactions, creating business relationships that incentivize the objectification and the destruction of human beings in order to keep the business going.
So for about 30 months, we went undercover with the explicit purpose of partnering with some of the biggest Planned Parenthood abortion clinics in the country to send their technicians in, harvest body parts from the abortions that were being done that day, then package up the parts and ship them off to different customers all around the country, sometimes around the world. In July of 2015, we began to release the undercover video series. I had been hoping that this was something that would, you know, that would maybe generate 100,000 views or something. Instead, what happened was even bigger than I could have imagined. Within less than a week, we had close to 3 million views on YouTube of the first video and multiple congressional committees announcing that they were launching federal investigations of Planned Parenthood's involvement in fetal trafficking and fetal experimentation.
The truth got out there, and the words of Planned Parenthood's own leadership describing their organization's participation in these activities went viral and was being being publicized for the whole world to see. Looking back on it from the information that we know now, I now know what was going on. was that Kamala Harris, at the explicit instruction of Planned Parenthood, Had targeted me and me alone among all undercover video news gatherers in the state of California. To enforce the California video recording law against me and to punish. me for speaking the truth about her powerful campaign donors at Planned Parenthood.
What we've come to learn in the years since, just two weeks. before serving the search warrant on my home. Kamala Harris had a secret meeting in Los Angeles with several top-level executives of Planned Parenthood in California. We then found out from the California DOJ investigator reports that Planned Parenthood's top lawyer in California had specifically instructed the California DOJ agents that Planned Parenthood wanted the video equipment and the computers that I was using to publish the videos to be seized. In order to shut me up, in order to prevent me from continuing to publish the truth about Planned Parenthood's involvement in fetal trafficking, and in order to punish me for speaking out with a message that was disfavored by Planned Parenthood and by Kamala Harris in the state of California.
I think what people have to understand about organizations like Planned Parenthood and about their political backers like Kamala Harris. is that they're shameless. and they will do whatever they have to do in order to promote their agenda. They'll say whatever they have to say and they are not afraid to use every bit of power at their disposal to force their agenda through. Kamala Harris is the single greatest threat to First Amendment civil liberties that our country has ever seen.
If Kamala Harris is elected to be a heartbeat away from the highest office in the United States of America, you will have someone in the White House who has a radical contempt and disrespect for First Amendment civil liberties, someone who believes that she's entitled to use the powers of her office in order to punish the viewpoints of citizens who disagree with her. One of the things that she was doing. Uh John. was two. when uh you had anifah, where they were literally hitting elderly people in the heads with bricks Uh Here sh uh shooting former police officers.
Killing people, and she was getting these people up. Remember The Summer of Love? Yeah, you talking about uh what's that, twenty twenty? See ya.
Well, no, the Summer of Love, uh, yeah, I think it was. It was twenty. Oh.
Well, if we go back Uh Yeah, it must have been twenty twenty. I'm trying to I'm trying to remember that guy George Floyd was it George Floyd George yeah it was George Floyd that's when it all started With George Floyd. Yeah. And so But they were burning cities down there in in Oregon, And what in the in W state of Washington? I mean, they're just, you know, in Chicago.
And anyhow, she was bailing out these people that were these rioters, these communists, these thugs, these murderers, these killers. She was making sure they got bailed out so they could go back out there and continue. That was Camela. That was Camela. Okay.
And uh you you talk about uh And you remember? When she, the very first campaign stop that she had, when she ran. uh for President the very she started her campaign at Planned Predators. At a plant there in California. That's where she started her campaign.
And the P Planned Parenthood is the most wicked. the most evil, the most ungodly, The creeping, crawling purveyor of death on planet Earth. They've killed more people. In any army on earth. They're wicked.
There's nothing about Planned Parenthood. that they don't do. They don't they'll sell baby baby a baby body parts uh these those women there are as wicked as wicked gets. I mean it doesn't get any there there's witchcraft all kinds of witchcraft. Here They had these these human traffickers.
Uh these illegals that came over here trafficking these young girls, these teenage girls in prostitution, When they would get pregnant they would go to planned predators And planned predators would abort those babies. And those whores had planned predators, those whores have planned predators. They've worked right along with the human traffickers. That's how evil they are. Evil is evil gets.
So What do you think of that?
Well, um Just look at the people at work there. Look at the abortionists. And uh the Planned Parenthood abortionist There in York, Pennsylvania. And you were helping me by uh announcing it uh over the airways, what was going on there. Yeah.
The ho the county and the city was all black. Back uh backing Planned Parenthood. Isn't that amazing? The the mayor here. Uh the uh They were they were whoring themselves they all went ahooring.
Unbelievable, the corruption. No honor. No honor at all. Totally. Yeah.
And then the police uh they had no conscience. And they would um lie. I I it it was astonishing. You know, I please Pastor Any, I know that there are corrupt cops, but To actually be there and hear them. I knew what happened.
And there's the police um perjuring themselves in court. to protect Planned Parenthood. It so that's the depth that this corruption can take them past earnings. And we actually had The district attorney, Stanley Riebert, was his name. He's probably passed on by now.
But he actually would come and sit in the in the courtroom and watch the uh attempted um um conviction of our people. But the district attorney himself would That's how ingrained Planned Parenthood was in York County, Pennsylvania. They were bought and paid for, weren't they? They weren't. I I I did um uh freedom inform in information requests.
and the police were getting thirty seven fifty an hour to come there. They were off duty, but they came with the Police car. Full uniform. Carrying the gun. and working for Plant Parenter for thirty seven dollars and fifty cents an hour.
I wish she'd not. I'd have made I'd you know, if they did that up here, I'd think I'd have maken some of those uh magnetic signs to put on the side of the cars and uh Instead of police department. You know, I would have put on their bought horse You know, no integrity, no honesty, no decency. We sell ourselves cheap here. And so that's, you know.
I don't know if I ever told you this or not, but. The uh We we were we were winning in uh and not in the local court, in the court of appeals and when we appealed this.
soon as we got outside of York the city of York, we would win the cases.
So The mayor told uh the chief of police to meet with me.
So uh they they We set up a meeting and I went in there and I was talking to the the top lieutenant. and the chief of poli the chop top captain and the chief of police. They actually Pastor Ernie, I'm not making this up. They actually bragged to me that they talk to the judge And the uh that that and the ju and the judge cooperated with them. basically three months.
They actually told me in my presence they told me it. Yeah, well, that's that's how that's how arrogant they were. That's how they had like sewed up tied up the uh city there. And and well, actually the county, when you look at the district attorney the county attorney also.
So but yeah, bold, completely bold, bragging about going to the judge. to run the troublemakers out that that we weren't from York and they wanted the troublemakers run out of York. Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Well, praise God for people like you that will stand up to em.
So, anyhow I want to jump over here for real quickly. Remember, we had talked about Rick Warren, and the reason was. If you remember right around the year 2000, go back about 2000, uh when he came out with his purpose-driven church book. And uh I remember say in that book Somebody brought one and I couldn't believe I s you know I mean people cannot possibly be this stupid. I mean You cannot possibly be this biblically illiterate here.
And here he was going on on uh Fox News and America's pastor Remember they were saying he's America's pastor. And I'm looking at it. And he had gotten did you know that worldwide on a worldwide a basis he had gotten about four hundred thousand uh pastors involved. He shipped his book out. And here Steve Doocy on Fox News was saying The gospel of Rick Warren, the gospel of Rick Warren.
No longer was it, you know. The Gospel of Jesus Christ. No, it was the gospel of Rick Warren out there. And of course, you know, again, on on Fox News, they've unfortunately they've had a number of people. On there that may have good intentions but are biblically illiterate, they've got no idea what the Bible actually teaches.
And you know that by what by what they say. But anyhow Here Uh He uh His churches, he followed up You know, he had five purposes that he he uh proposed in his purpose driven church Uh and then these were the seeker sensitive. They were One was no hymns Uh the uh Instead of singing hymns, you didn't sing any hymns, you had rock bands. He used to bring rock bands in. No preaching against sin.
People knowing that there was no preaching against sin. It just offended people, okay? Uh the marketing you You have a marketing, you marketed Jesus. You did that in conf conferences and you did it in seminars. Uh For papal That that didn't want to go along with him 'cause he had these big conferences There is saddle back.
and some churches from around here, their pastors what their pastors were told Do not wh when you go back, do not Tell your congregations what we're doing here today, okay? but he was actually telling em look Um he had some s things um Where he uh The statements that he made in the five-point plan was That I'm trying to rem oh yeah. They called secret meetings, called secret meetings with like-minded New Age members of the church. Vote all, and they did that to some churches right here. This took place.
Uh one of the ladies I know told me her pastor, and I knew him. He went to a seminar conference with Rick Ward as saddleback. I said, you guys better get ready. You get ready then. uh because bad things are going to happen.
Well he had Come back. I said, Listen.
Now this she was one of the founders of the church. And um I said, what they're trying, what they're doing there. Is there training people to come in and ha have secret meetings and then vote the founding members of the Church out vote 'em out and and uh they they can all do this legally. and then encourage him to leave. And uh And you had to play hardball with him.
And so what what he said was, Uh there's no growth. There is no growth without change And there's no change without pain, and Um you have to in order to bring in new people Unchurched Hairy. To get unchurched hairy and you can't beat him over the head with the Bible. You've got to conform the church to the world. And then Harry will come in.
Well, let me ask you a question, John. Why would Harry want to come in? He's already got all that out there in the world right now.
Well, that's really true, Pascal.
So you have to make it some sort of like a a club. You know, you remember the old Lions Club year ag here, the Moose Club and all that years ago, Master and these sort of They had to make it more social, I guess. And and that so people would want to come in to have uh friendships in that. Yeah. Well, here in the United States over four thousand churches Split.
Because of this, they split the churches and they collapsed. Many of those churches shut down. And they collapsed, they broke apart.
Okay. Let me ask you a question. Was he involved working with the government? And with the churches and the government. Yeah, he was involved working with the.
Barack Hussein Obama. And uh that's what I thought. That's what I thought that's very And so, yeah. See, I I didn't know anything about him. Because I watch Fox News a little and he seemed to be on it regularly.
Oh yeah. And so he sounded good to me. True sense. hearing them, you know, five minutes on Fox News, whatever it was. But then I found out that he was um you you mentioned Krizlam.
And what what he did was, um, he had Muslim Imams come to uh to his church. and offer prayers and speaking at from the podium. And once I heard that That was it. I I knew that there was something you know, this was really false.
Well, he was trying to yeah. He was trying to incorporate and marry the teachings of Christ with Allah, the teachings of. you know, Allah, okay? And y y you know, this is uh lunacy now. I went to Um there was a pastors c conference they had nothing big, just, you know, was about a dozen pastures and I had got in there And I can't even remember for sure what but when I got there they had they had these purpose driven church books.
I said, Have you guys lost your mind? Have you read any of these books there? And they said They were offended. They said The first question I was asked was Well, if God's not in it, why is it prospering? Why is it spreading?
I said, I don't know, ask Hugh Hefner. Why does Playboy prosper, right? You know, uh and hear that these guys were not thinking.
Well, we exposed it. I went on a radio and I really, really went after him. Do you know who it was that that we went on the radio with me? Noah Hutchins. You remember Noah Hutchins?
Oh, pure past energy. Yeah, of course they know remember NOAA. Yeah, well Noah in fact he actually was on on it before me. He was He was actually on this. And when I contacted him, he said, Yeah, he said, We're on top of this, let's take it.
And we took it to the airwaves, and uh We exposed it because guess what? They moved into his church. went in into the very church he was attending. that that crept into there. And so Here Uh it was just unbelievable.
And so we're coming up to how many seconds do we have? Yeah, we're coming up to a break. When we come back from the break, But we have a whole lot to cover tonight, so we're going to have to do some lightning rounds, I think, tonight, John.
So we'll be back right ahead. Yeah, I got some very important stuff to share. All right, we'll be back right after this. Don't go away. More to come.
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