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Pastor Ernie Sanders and his co-host discuss the Christian Resistance, UFO disclosure, and the implications of alien life on society. They also touch on NATO's role in European politics, the growing influence of Islam and Sharia law, and the threat of communism. The conversation is a mix of biblical analysis, current events, and personal experiences.

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The following program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre-recorded. I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast What's Right, What's Left is coming up right now.

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I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. the voice of the Christian Resistance on this third day of april, twenty twenty six, And uh tonight Yeah.

This is Friday night, all right? And tonight we have the mighty Andrew. He's ready to do battle. with the forces of darkness and a But I guess you won't be going on that crazy hair tour, huh? No, absolutely not.

Okay, but uh Anyhow, you heard the cackle. She's cackling Annie. Little Lisa, she's here to Good evening, everyone. She's gonna throw her all of her eighty four pounds behind Andrew when he has to face the forces of darkness. And Colin.

From deep in the heart of Texas, right from the McTernan mansion there. My long, long time co-host. My good friend. A man of standing. Chaplain for many years.

And he's on my preferred list. of an organ donor if needed. none other than big John McTurdin. You got me, I can't talk left. Chaplin for 46 years.

And how long, how long?

Well, we've been friends since the mid-90s. Uh yeah. Time's yeah, but how long, how long have I been on this show? I remember you calling up begging. You begged me to come on, begged.

You remember? Yeah. Yeah. I remember. But I don't remember when I started this journey at all.

Uh Yeah. I d I was trying to remember where we first met years ago and I c couldn't and was under repair and you were in a like uh one of those Uh, you know, moving the mobile home type of office. Oh, yeah, they had us working out of a trailer while they Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And uh you were just going from trailer to trailer, you know, uh W you asking for donations or something? I was on a speaking tour and you were on the tour. That's right. I was on there with. None other than Noah Hutchins, huh?

That's right. Yeah, Noah was brother Noah. The great Noah Hutchins, absolutely.

Now it's all coming back. I miss him, Peter and I I miss Noah. He He was like a spiritual father. He got me going in the ministry. He.

He liked my thoughts and asked me to write a book. He said when you get a hundred pages Of information in the book, you call me and he said, I've got I'm hooked up with printers, and we'll print it and we'll put you on the show. He did it. And so that's how I got my my start like that, was with Noah.

Well, I I got my start on there because I knew you. Yeah. I actually I had done on my program many, many times. You know, I've been on the air fifty one years. Noah.

was on the air sixty two years when he died. He was in his nineties when he died, but he he and I were friends for many, many years. Uh Pastor Ernie, what's so funny about Noah Hutchings? When I first met him, Oh. I couldn't tell you when I was in Washington DC at a that conference And he looked to me to be about sixty five, seventy years old.

And then all the years that I knew him, the last time I saw him, he looked to be sixty five or seventy years old. He he never aged. No, he didn't change very much, did he? No, he didn't. One time That ran in the family because one time I was having dinner with him in Cincinnati I was speaking of the Cincinnati tour that they were doing, and uh his daughter joined us for dinner.

And gee. She didn't look anywhere near her age either. It was amazing. But anyhow, We got to get into we got a lot to do. Two things happening here tonight.

First of all. We have a prayer request. There's a A young couple Katie And uh Dawson, Katie and Dawson. And Katy's mother is a wonderful, wonderful lady. I have known her for a very long time.

and she is so concerned about her daughter because you know, her daughter used to go to church and used to Um you know, being Vald used to read the Bible, she doesn't anymore, it's like she's totally left and and even though she has a profession of of salvation, Her husband, who also has a profession of salvation. Um but it was an interesting thing because it's His Bible knowledge was very limited. He He wanted to know what this um this book of Exodus was all about. You know, this is um And here's the guy that's profess you know, professing Christian, Had no idea what exodus meant, so Well Anyhow, Cheese Chee is very concerned. About her daughter, and she's a wonderful lady, and her husband So she's asked us if we would ask the folks out there They're because she doesn't think they're safe.

So we're going to ask the folks out there tonight We'll start by asking him to to pray with us for Katie and Dawson. for their salvation. Let's do that. Heavenly Father, Lord God, I just would would ask the folks out there that they would join in with us. Lord, and just and just agree with us in prayer.

a Lord for this For Katie and Dawson, Lord God, when you have a mother that's as wonderful as Katie's mother Lord, she she loves you with all her heart. And so we're asking the folks to join with us and ask that this be the very night That You break the heart of Katie and Dawson. You bring him to repentance and you bring him to you and you bring him to salvation. This we ask in Jesus' precious name. Amen.

Amen. All right. No. Here's the other thing. This is Friday night.

This is Friday night. Oh, dear.

So, John, we have the mighty Andrews standing guard, but. It's Friday night and we know strange things it already started today already. uh you know, with the uh the internet And so Would you Lead a prayer, and folks all around the country join us so we can go through this radio program tonight without being knocked down. Is it always o always happens to us. We just had three tornadoes in our area up here, too.

And and We survived. I mean it's it's it's been a very interesting week, John. A very interesting week.

So Would you lead us in the prayer to that so the Lord would It would keep us on the air and come against the forces of darkness tonight. Yes, and past the earning, I I do feel that And we need a lot of corporate prayer about this. because it's just not me praying. I mean, we need everybody because of what we've gone through in the years on Friday nights. Yeah.

Yeah, so Heavenly Father, we're before you in the awesome name of the Lord Jesus Christ. And Lord, Bizarre. Things have happened here. on Friday nights. hindering the show going forward.

So I'm asking in the awesome name of your Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. that this would stop, that it would be ineffective tonight. That the show would go forth? and the prayer time at the end for his salvation would go forth. And that people's knowledge would be greatly increased and they would obtain knowledge that they may not find any place else.

And the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. Go forward. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

Thanks, John. We're going to get into our scripture. The title. This week was the triumphal entry And so here we're gonna be starting picking it up tonight. In Luke chapter twenty two with verse twenty one.

And um So that's Luke twenty-two with verse twenty-one.

So whenever you're ready, John. We'll let you. You get that mechanical vibral, don't you? Mm-hmm. Yes.

Uh Mel 22 verse 21. Yep. Mm-hmm. And how far do you want to go?

Well, we're gonna. We got about 15 minutes. We'll go as much as we can in that 15 minutes. No, no, no, no, no, Pesperly. I meant.

On in Luke. How many of you have?

Okay, uh, just read verses twenty one through twenty-three.

Okay. But behold, the hand of him that betrayed me is with me on the table. And truly the Son of Man goeth as it is as it is was determined. But woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed. And they began to inquire among themselves which of them.

Okay. was that should Do this thing.

Now we know that Satan had entered into Judah's home. And and uh There are many today that think that Judas is going to be the Antichrist.

Well, it's that same spirit of Antichrist, okay? but it's not Judas himself. And so we go ahead and we say And there was also a strife among them, of which should be accounted the greatest. And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercised lordship over them Did they exercise authority upon them, and are called benefactors. But you shall not be so.

But he that is the greatest among you let him be as the younger. and he that is the chief, let him be as he that does serve. For whether is greater he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth. Is it not he that sitteth at meat? But I am among you as he that serveth.

Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. And I appointed to you a kingdom As my Father has appointed unto me, and that you may eat and drink at my table, in my kingdom and set it on the thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Soon That's gonna take place during the Millennial Kingdom, right? And so you're going to have the twelve apostles sitting with the Uh heads of the twelve tribes, the leaders of the twelve tribes of Israel, and they'll be judging The people, won't they, during the Millennial Kingdom. Oh, yeah, Pastor Any. Ver very clear the way the Lord laid this out here. And we also will be there with judging also if we read 1 Corinthians 6.

And we'll be judging not only the people during the Millennial Kingdom, but angels too. Absolutely.

Okay. So pick it up with verse thirty one through thirty four. And the Lord said, Simon, Simon. Behold, Satan hath desired to have you. that he might sift you as we.

But I have prayed for thee. But thy feet Fail not. And when thou art converted, Strengthen thy brother. And he said unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee both to into prison and to death. And he said Tell me, Peter, the cock Till not crow this day.

before thou shalt Um Trice than I that thou knowest me.

Now, old Peter wanted to argue about that, didn't he? He said no, I would never do that. I would never that But the Lord said Before the cock crows, you're going to deny me three times, Peter, and so Here Uh, it was like, uh, you know, two thousand years earlier There was another one that uh Satan went after to use. And his name was Job, huh? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that that was a real that was. In the scriptures, there, the Lord let us see what was going on, like behind the scenes. But he but Satan didn't learn his lesson there, did he? No. No, he he was thoroughly defeated Uh, Joe thoroughly defeated him.

So then he picks it up here. And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse and script. and shoes liked you anything? And they said nothing.

So he said, Go out there. Forget forget your shoes, your script. Def don't worry about your money, your purse. I'll take you'll be taken care of. And they were.

people just uh you know they provided for 'em and when they would go to a house they would be given meals and that And if the people Refused them what were they to do? Uh move on, Pastor Ernie. Knocked the dust off their feet, huh? Yeah, move on. No, it would be like a curse would ho uh hover over at Past Ernie.

And then he goes on to say, Then said he unto them, But now he that hath a purse, let him take it. And likewise Script, and he that hath no sword, Let him sell his garment by his sword.

Now Peter's thinking, Whoa The Lord is telling us this because what He just said I'm gonna need to get a sword because I'm gonna have to protect the Lord. and and and each other this very night. For I say, do you think those thoughts were going into Peter's head?

Well, it obviously does pass the earned because we know what happens. He uh He sep separated Ma Mal Malchus and Azir from each other, huh? I was one of the soldiers and Peter swipe took a swipe at him and cut his ear off.

Well, he was the. the temple, uh, he was the high priest's servant there at the temple. For I say unto you, That this That is written must be accomplished in me. and he was reckoned among the transgressors, for all these things concerning me have an end, Well, you know what that is, don't you? That's which that was a That was in Isaiah fifty three.

Uh And in fact Wow, he head down. Also, I think that was uh uh here You might find that. And um I think the ninth song. But anyhow.

Well, and when he said among the transgressors, that was Isaiah 53, verse 12, wasn't it? There is a boss pair for me. It was you know, buried amongst the transgressors or died amongst the transgressors. Yeah. And they said, Lord, behold, Here are two swords and he said unto them, It is enough.

So here Again Peter was thinking, All right. You know, how well How how important how big a deal was it to sell your garment to buy a sword?

Well, I I don't think they had many garments past the early. No, they didn't. They didn't have it. Like, you know, we go into a closet and we get a number of different shirts, right? Right, right.

I don't think they had many. But in fact, I mean, there's indications that the Lord just had that one garment. Yeah. And it was um it was rather nicely made. Because the troops were The Roman army there was interested in it.

He didn't say sell your garments he says sell your garment. Singular, huh? And then Yeah. And so the the point of it was he was telling them that uh Yeah, because It gets cold at night without a garment, doesn't it? He goes on to say.

Will you want to pick it up in thirty nine and read it through forty six?

Okay, just hang on. He came out and went as he was wont. to the Mount of Olives, And his disciples also followed him. And when he was at the place, he said unto them. Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

And he was withdrawn from them about his stones cast, and kneeled down and prayed. Saying father If thou wilt be willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless not my will, but thine will. And there appeared an angel unto him. From heaven strengthening him, And being in agony, he prayed more earnestly.

And his sweat as it were. great drops of blood falling down On the ground. And when he rose up from prayer, It was come to the disciples. he found them sleeping with sorrow. and said unto them, Why sleep ye?

Rest rise and pray. Least he enter into. temptation.

Okay, so when we go back there Um and he says To them. And he came out and he went to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples also followed him. And when he was at that place, he said unto them, Pray that you Enter not into temptation. He kept Saying this because there was going to be temptations, and one of the temptations was going to be.

Well, to abandon him, huh? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. and he was withdrawn them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down and he prayed. Saying father Yeah, if they'll be w willing remove this cup from me.

Nevertheless not my will. But thine be done. Let me go back to verse one. We we missed this or verse thirty nine rather. And he said unto them, And he went as he was wont.

He went as he was wont, W O and T. Uh That was talking about he went That word there is the same word we used for accustomed, as it was the accustomed to do, huh? And here So we're so th all of these things it's like it's very well Everything here is very well orchestrated. Like, it's already taken place already And it had already really taken place in the mind of God. All of these things have happened.

And as we go on And um Yeah. I've often uh I've often said, you know, it's kind of strange. Like, God. God is not controlled by time. You and I, you know, time time has taken its toll on us.

Uh Time tells us what we have to do, but With God time is what God says it is. And it's almost like Here everything is written in a book in a way has already taken place. And it's just about to take place all over again. Do you ever get that that feeling, John? From from reading the scriptures?

Yeah. Wow. I I I have to think on it. I just off the top of my head, Pastor Ernie. I can't say I did.

You know, it's like It's almost like a a movie, you know, it's it's already taking a place and like you showed over. I mean I I get this a feeling, you know, with with a prophecy Anyhow And he said unto them, Why sleep ye? Rise and pray. lest you enter in temptation.

So again He he goes one more time about the temptation. He talked about that over in Matthew chapter 26 quite a bit. We're gonna have to stop there 'cause we're out of time for now, but We'll be back right after this. Oh, you know what we got yet? I tell you before we go there.

Uh Other strange things that are happening. Here Oh. We have Have you ever heard Congressman Burchett? E. Pesterney, Congressman.

Burchett, yeah, he's a. He's a. He's still a congressman right now. I think I think he's getting termed out, or I think he's going to. Uh this'll be his last term, I'm not sure, but anyhow.

He's got some very interesting things to say about Um What has been taking place, there's been a a lot. of uh people that are involved With um This this the NASA, the UFO, you know, all of these people, and even the military that's involved in this. Yeah, I'll let him tell the story. Take it away there, Andy. Heard about this, an absolutely wild story at a time when we could be on the verge of some kind of disclosure about alien life and UFOs from the White House.

They've said this. Four people who worked in government programs and knew a whole lot about that topic have either vanished. or have been murdered. The first was retired General William Neal McCasland, who had ties to UFO programs in the government. He disappeared suddenly from his home in New Mexico in February.

He left his phone, his glasses, and his watch at home. He also worked at an Air Force base that reportedly held the debris from the Roswell, New Mexico crash in the 1940s. Then it was Monica Reza, a former NASA engineer who worked directly under General McCasland on advanced propulsion engines. She vanished while hiking in California last June with friends who say, They have no idea what happened. Then it was Nuro Lareo, the director of plasma science at MIT.

He was murdered in his home in Boston in December. And then it was Carl Grillmar, a Caltech astrophysicist, who discovered water on another planet where there may have been life. Carl was murdered randomly in his home last month. Our next guest says this was not a coincidence. Everybody's thinking it's UFO, but he had some nuclear secrets.

There's just too many of them disappeared, Benny. I'm just, nothing happens by coincidence in this town or around this town. Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett is joining us. He's also a member of the Oversight and Foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman, good to see you.

What do you think's going on here?

Well, I don't know exactly. I just know there are no coincidences in this town. These folks have disappeared or died mysteriously. There's only thing that ties them together is the fact that they work on things that are dealing with. With outer space, whether it's UFOs or nuclear secrets or missiles or what have you.

But I think we need full disclosure. You know, when I'm in a meeting, In a closed door meeting, and I asked about the president's points on these, and then I'm told by some arrogant unelected bureaucrat that the president is on a need-to-know basis. I think that says everything that needs to be said about what's going on. I think there's an arrogance, there's an underlying You know, I talked to the president about this. I said, you know, it's just layers of the onion, Mr.

President. You peel one off, and there's another one underneath. You put your top people in. And it's just too much to clear out in four years. And it's just we've got a real problem, I think, in this area.

And I think you've got some arrogance. When I sit in a meeting and send a little punk with a man bun, Is sort of running the show, and you have decorated. officer military officers in the meeting there. That are basically unallowed to say anything, and you can read their faces what's going on.

Well, General McCaslin, he was not a minor player at Wright-Patterson. Air Force Base. He was there for more than 35 years. At one point, he was the top guy at that base, and he just disappears. His family has no idea.

What happened? Do you think the cases are connected, or do you think this is just some absolutely wild coincidence? Because all four of these people are also connected in some way. Yeah, I think some of them could be a domestic issue, but I think overall, I think there is a connection there.

Okay, so you do think that's a good question. I don't think probably we're ever going to know because it'll come out and it gives enough time for the trail to go. You know, it's like when a kid in Washington, D.C. gets. They find him dead and they claim that he was mugged, yet his watch and wallet, and he's got cash on him are not taken.

But that's just the story that's put out, and that's what we believe.

So I just do not believe this is by coincidence. And people just do not disappear in the connections between all four of these people. Not in this day and age. No, yeah.

So you've got to have some real. In God. Type of operation.

Okay, I want to play you a sound by a former colleague of yours, Matt Gates. Making some Pretty shocking statements yesterday about aliens. Take a look. And I had someone come and brief me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States Army, that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication. Aliens that were living were in forced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants.

All right. I don't have the tinfoil hat on just yet, Congressman, but I'm wondering. You know, kind of how you react to that because you are connected, you're on the UFO subcommittee. I mean, I'm just wondering what you make of that. Have you heard anything like that?

Well, I'm still a member of Congress, so I can't really comment too much on what Matt said. But I will say this. Wait, seriously? Are you being serious? Or is that tough?

Being 100% serious. I've been 100% serious. I've been briefed by just about every alphabet agency there is. And I'll just tell you this: if they would release. The things that I've seen.

You would stay up, you'd be up at night worrying about or thinking about this stuff. We just need to disclose it all. I'm sick of it. You're.

Well, I was briefed. I'll just tell you this: I was briefed last week on an issue, or excuse me, two weeks ago. And um It would have set the earth on this. This country would have come unglued, I think, if they would have heard all that I heard. They would demand answers.

And we need to. But, you know, it's never going to get, unfortunately. It just keeps getting covered up and covered up, and the people that know are dying or disappearing, as the case may be. And for the record, I'm not suicidal, and I don't take risks. I'm glad you said that.

I'm speechless, Congressman. We will. You should be. You should be. And I told the president, release it all.

And the problem is, the people that are around the president don't know the and the president doesn't know the questions to ask. A few of us are going to have to get with the president and tell him what he needs to ask and where he needs to look. I mean, you know, we're. We're in meetings and they give addresses and tell locations of items, I'll just say. And um The public has a right to know, Dad Gummet, it's your tax dollars.

Absolutely.

You got my attention, Congressman. I appreciate you being as forthcoming as you have been tonight, and we look forward to having you back. Look, I know Donald Trump wants to disclose something. He hasn't done it yet, but I think he wants to be the president to do that. Tim Burchett, thank you.

He does. He does. Thank you, brother. All right. The only way I can do it all this is to Say big job return What do you say?

Uh Pastor Ernie, um You're an old timer like me, right? Yeah. And uh Can't we remember back into the fifties With it. This has been going on for quite a while, and the government. be involved in it, hiding it.

People were saying this, they saw this, they saw that. It's gotta come to a head. and come out with evidence that we can see. And tangible evidence. Right?

Yeah. Well, they've actually taken a lot of these things and and made made um movies out of 'em are like like the X-Files. A lot of this stuff just happened.

Now, I remember when I was in the military, We we were briefed on something that took place in Arizona where they found a bunch of cattle that they had had their organs removed. These cattle were found dead, but they were It wasn't, you know, like uh people that would go out and kill them and butcher him. They were removed with surgical instruments, in other words, very precise. And Uh You know, that you know, the military w said, uh They were very very concerned at that time about.

Well, about aliens. These aren't Democrat aliens. These are Space aliens supposedly. And you hear a lot of stuff, John. What about, you know, like I've heard for years and years, we've heard about.

How so s That there's uh up in the Arctic, there's kinda like a tunnel that goes into the ground. And underground there's kind of a different world, a whole different world. They even made a movie about that. That one with Pat Boone, and I'm trying to remember.

So, what do you think about that? I mean, We've we've been hearing about this stuff for years. Um I don't know. I mean bruchette Uh he he he believes what he's telling us for sure, doesn't he? It seems that way, Pastor Ernie.

My my ultimate If if this is true. and there are manifestations of these I believe it's demonic and it's coming from the earth. I don't think it's coming from Mars or some other galaxy and all that. I think it's related here to the earth and its thermometer. If we go back to Genesis, the flood and Genesis 6, and then the fallen angels, when they were cast out, they were given orders.

to have nothing to do. They were not to interact with with people, with humans. But of course They didn't they they didn't get thrown out of heaven for obeying God, did they? And so Uh they did that, and we ended up with Nephilum. Uh Do you think something very similar do you think possibly when the flood was upon the earth, That there was some Validity to this this thing about this underground Earth.

situation where maybe these these uh went to s went to live. and continue to live. I don't know. What do you think?

Well, I think as during the the Nephilim. Um The last ones was uh wasn't it um Uh I see no words in my mind. Uh The one there that David slew. David and Goliath.

Well, he had four brothers. Yeah. Right. And those five were like the last of the Nephilim. Yeah.

I d well th they're the last of the Nef ones on Earth, right? The the ones that were on earth. But what about under the earth? Because the Bible talks about that every knee is going to bow for all of those on earth and f and everyone under the earth. It says everyone under the earth, their knees will bow too.

Was he yeah, that's true, Captain. That's a good point. Really, that's that's a really good that's that's Yeah, that makes you think, that's fair. Yeah, when when you hear about the underground We we might have a whole different uh The idea of what the underground is nowadays, huh? Anyhow.

There you go. A whole lot of stuff to cover tonight. Um one of the things Uh that we had Where'd it go? I just had my. what's happening here.

was There's a it seems like there's been an uptick in Canada, France, the Netherlands, And the United States now. uh with church fires. Uh it's been happening here. And uh uh you know the Well, well, people are saying it's the It's Muslims. are setting churches on fire.

Uh, what do you think? Yeah, well, I believe I believe An imam issued a fatwa. Fatwa is like a a a decree that Muslims are supposed to follow. And that was for this week and into into Resurrection Sunday they would have b burned uh churches. I heard Damondi that Moran Damondi the Mayor of New York, And he was singing that prayer and it in Islam And it was talking about killing infidels, killing infidels, singing a song.

an' that's the Mayor of New York an The I guess they're ten percent. The population of New York City is ten percent Muslim. And and there they're singing about killing the other ninety percent. I dunno, what do you think?

Well, Past Thursday, it's amazing you should say that. That's the first I heard. about the pop Muslim population in New York City. But through the years, um, I have um I've learned a lot about Islam, and there's been Research done. About when two percent of the population is Muslim, what happens?

Four, six, eight, up to ten. And ten is the number in which they begin to accumulate power, especially political power. And they become dangerous after that past earning. That's how we've seen him do it in a number of different countries now. Over in France.

Fran France is the one that and France in particular It's more than ten percent of the population but in particular areas of Germany. I mean, the cities are falling to Islam. And they've got shit era law. They're they're they're practicing Shara law like in the streets. There in Germany.

So that's what we have to be very careful here. tested earning in the United States. Uh, the worst is in the UK, where I mean, virtually most all the cities now have uh Muslim mayors, huh? The topic cities. the largest eight cities In in Great Britain, uh the mayors are uh Muslim.

And Prince Charles is a Muslim. You know, Prince Charles, he's the head. The head of the Church of England is a Muslim. Yeah, that's very interesting you should say that because. The king of England is that's right, the king, now king Charles.

The king. Yeah, yeah. They are over the uh Church of England. And this uh uh resurrection week here. He refused to make any type of proclamation or anything.

But he did follow Ramadan. That's because he's a Muslim, yeah. I mean, it's it's I mean, think about how crazy that is. Uh I mean England has really gone off to deep end, hasn't it?

Well, Pastor Ernie, I'm going to say something that I believe with all my heart. Did y yeah, I I'm sure you were aware of how by what's going on in Iran Uh um Spain. Germany and France refuse to allow Our planes to fly over? there? And they wouldn't allow us to use the bases The military bases.

Yeah you you're aware of that, right?

Well, yeah, and Trump is Trump is saying, guess what? Tonato, uh it's time we pull out and he and he's telling NATO the heads of these countries. that uh well here you go. I've got an article right here. Let me just read this to you.

President Donald Trump is floating an exit From the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Coin The Transatlantic Alliance a Paper Tiger. As European powers refused to enter into the conflict with Iran, Secretary of State Marco Rubio also was declaring a need to return. Re-examine the US-NATO relationship. Asked by The Telegraph in an interview published Wednesday.

He is reconsidering America's NATO membership. Trump replied, Oh yes. I would say it's beyond reconsideration. I was never swayed by NATO.

So he added I also knew that they were a paper tiger, And uh Uh Russian President Vladimir Putin knows that too, by the way. Anyhow, he goes on to say No European nation has ever directly supported the United States' military action. Against Iran. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez. who leads a NATO Member State has denied the United States the use of Spanish.

airspace and joint military bases for the conflict. Other powers have provided assistance to the United States. while shying away from direct participation in kinetic strikes. United Kingdom Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Has said the UK will take action to defend ourselves and our allies, but will not be drawn into this war.

Here's the thing. I mean They want the United States to come to their aid. Uh But they d they don't want to help us, right? And so You know, I think we should withdraw. I think we should get out because Trump told him, look.

Get your own oil. Don't depend on us. We're not going to protect you. Look, we have military bases in their countries. Our military bases are there.

to keep them from being attacked. From The the communists And yet they're saying, well, you can have your bases here and your people here to protect us. but don't count on us to help you. Uh I don't think that gets it. What do you think?

Well, Pastor Ernie, I believe there's several issues. But I w I want you to give this a lot of thought. Um all those European countries have a lot of Muslims. And if they allow uh like Spain, for example, all of them. Uh that have a lot of Muslims.

They could be they could face rioting, massive rioting in the street, Pastor. And I think that, that was the big Reason they didn't cooperate with us, and they can't make it public. The Muslims now. Have these countries on the they they've got political power. and they will riot, they will be violent, they might even shed blood and kill.

And the the they're afraid, that's certainly. You're afraid.

So the Muslims have gained a good proportion of it has gained control over Europe. And that's exactly what has happened throughout history. I don't know if it's Well, yeah, when we when we take a look at it, it's it's almost you know what it reminds me of, John? It reminds me of of the church here in America. and the government sees her.

Uh you know they They claim that they fear God, but in their actions show And I'm talking about from the pulpits that they really feel s fear Caesar more than they do God. when it comes to standing up. In other words, When it comes to especially the killing of the children, abortion, uh and defending the pro-lifers and defending Uh What is right taking a stand, you know, for The home schoolers Um I remember hearing these pastors at a meeting saying as long as it's legal We can't stand against it because we're not allowed to stand against the government. That was a lie told by cowards. That was a lie told by cowards.

From Genesis to Revelation, Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. And And that's the problem. That's why we have so many dead babies in this country. Um because it was supposed to come from the pulpit. And that's where God they failed God.

I mean God has never been more dishonoured anywhere than from the pulpits. in this country here. I mean, it's a pitiful, pitiful shame. And I know I remember One time at a pastor's meeting when I was talking about this, some of the older pastors said to me, If you continue preaching that You're going to bring the government down on all of us.

So what do you think? What what were they telling me, John? Yeah, Pastor Any. Um That's how politics work. Like They were they had pol politics within the church.

The church didn't do If the passes compromise, And they set up a church compromise. And big issues like you just mentioned, they're compromised. And half the church is going to walk out big donors are going to walk out and all of that.

So they they go political.

Well, that's political. And I'm not going to get we're not going to get into political. Right, isn't that the issue? Yeah, that's it. You're right.

Now, Peter, with the Muslims here in America. Think how because they'll all vote high, high, high voting. And So not the Republicans so much, but the Democrats. If they don't go along what the Muslims want, even though they might be. like a majori a minority They're going to lose.

They're going to lose.

So you got the tail wagging the dog, and that's what's happening across America. Mayors, congressman, state state congress. School boards, all of this. We're in a dangerous situation. But the Muslims here test them.

Well, in the Netherlands they're restricting em no more They won't allow any more Muslims to come in and and they're They're watching what Trump has done and they want to they want to start um deporting them out of the country. And that's when I think they're they've got too big a stronghold now. Uh And of course in France or England And it's it's it's g getting close to that point today in Canada. where you know they've they've they're getting such a stronghold Um here in this country There's enough of us that they're going to run into a lot of resistance, I think. Um, you know, you there's supposed to be Uh Uh, they're supposed to blend into the s the society.

Uh you know, we're We're in a country That allows them to practice their religion as long as they don't try to force it on the rest of us. And they're deciding to force down the rest of us. The Bible says Um my people perish for a lack of knowledge. I've been shouting from the rooftops for Decades. Since the late nineties what I learned Islam.

There's two parts to Islam. There is the Medina And is the Meccan. And the Meccan is: oh, you're friendly and you're nice. And all of this, because they're weak. But and so the the Muslim can open up the Quran and say, Here, look, you're of the book, I'm supposed to listen to you.

Then you go over to the Medina, and that's when he left. Mohammed left. Mecca. and he made his journey to Medina And there the warlords and all kind of signed up with him. and he became a powerful warlord.

And the the pagans cut their right hand off, their left uh leg off and stuff like that. But that's Where Mohammed So, just two parts to Islam.

So, right now, In America, they're they're weak.

So they're functioning on the mid mid uh the mechan. section of the scripture. But as soon as they get strong, it isn't that Mandami guy, do you hear what he's saying, Pastor Ernie, and the people around him? You see how aggressive they are, and it maybe it's time we kill the infidels, right, Pastor Ernie? He was singing that song today.

It's time to kill the infidels. Exactly. They wouldn't have said that five years ago. But he's elected now, and he's pointing people like him in all positions of the city. And they've got their five prayers a day blaring from the the mosques throughout the city.

Yeah. So this is this is a and it's only how many years since nine eleven? Yeah. See so The politicians here are dumb. And the m the Muslims m a lot of them had a lot of money?

The schools, the universities, they poured money in it from Qatar. and Saudi Arabia The college campuses, a lot of it has become a lot of it. Like look at the year look at Harvard, for example, it's gone. Harvet is gone. It's it's communist and Islam.

Yeah, I know, and that's a very interesting thing. Uh Because I've been shouting this past Saturday. I've been shouting this. S for twenty-five years now. And if without knowledge Oh, it's just a religion.

No, it's not a religion. It's a political from one perspective, it is a political system. It's a legal system. they would replace our everything in our Constitution would be repaid replaced by Shahira law. Shira law craze all our freedoms, all of that, it's all gone.

Everything is gone. Women's rights, it's all gone. That's how they operate under Shi'era law. That's what they want to do to America, overthrow it. and and have everything under Sha'iro law.

Well, the idea and they say that The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

So they have formed a an Confederacy in unholy alliance with the communists, Democrats are communists. Communists and are Democrats Democrats or Communists. And they formed this in ho you know The Democrats will always take the side to the enemies of the America over Americans. Like right now, they're taking the side. 100% right, Pastor Ernie.

100% right. Always, always, always. We're coming up to a break. When we get on the other side of this, I want to. We'll comment more on that what what they're doing.

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