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Well, you know, he he's got his own fan club now and he's getting mail sent to me to give to him. You know, like a star is born With style. Little do you know, it's all hate mail. All right.
Well, you know Jimmy Rogers was a good friend of mine. Jimmy Rogers sang a lot of songs, 25 gold records, and One of them was a honeycomb, and in that he says And with a hank of hair and a piece of bone, she's a walking, talking, walking, talking, walking, talking, walking, talking. Look all these up. Good evening, everyone. Did we get to walking?
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Uh and then He's big. And he's bold. He's an elder that's not that old. Randall Barkley. Good evening, everyone.
There you go. You know, Randy's the only one of us here It keeps us tan all year round. That's right. That's right. We try.
Uh He Yeah. With a corrupt judicial system. went after him. For his Christian patriots stand, He stood his ground Like Job. He kept his integrity.
Pastor Richard Lewis. Thank you. Welcome, everyone. Glad to be here. Nope.
She loves her God. She loves her country. She loves life. She's a little lady, but she's got a great, great big uh job. She's taken bringing America back to life.
And that is the president of Cleveland Right to Life, Miss Janine Jones. Hey, Janine. Hi, Pastor Ernie. Thanks for having me.
Well, what a pleasure it is to get you here tonight. And um You're probably not used to a program like this, are you?
Well, no, no, I haven't participated in one like this recently, but I'm happy to be here. What we do is uh we're gonna we go with a Bible study and And then we're going to get in, and you're going to tell us all about bringing America back to life. But Uh we're gonna start tonight. with Genesis CHAPTER nine and uh the Noahic covenant.
Now there's something very special about the Noe Covenant. And we'll read verses one through seven. And so and God bless Noah. And his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth. The very first command that God gave man was to be fruitful and multiply.
Um That's not exactly what our government teaches today our judicial. and the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, and upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea. and in your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that shall live. shall be meat for you, even as the green herb have I given you all things.
But flesh for the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, you shall not eat. And surely your blood of your lives will I require at the hand of every beast, and I will require it at the hand of every man. At the hand of every man's brother will I require it. The life of man Whoso sheddeth man's blood of a man Shall his blood be shed? for in the image of God made He man.
And you, be you fruitful and multiply, bring forth abundantly in the earth. Multiply therein.
So again, that very same, by the time we get to Genesis 9, it's given four times in the Bible to be fruitful and multiply.
Now, Here's an interesting thing. Because in this covenant, this is the Noate covenant, okay? Uh he makes five points, five points very clearly. The very first point was to Whom was this given? Whom was he talking to?
And you find that here in in uh Versus nine and ten. And I behold, I establish my covenant with you and with your seed after you. and with every living creature that is with you of the follow of the cattle and of every beast of the earth with you. From all that go out of the ark, To every beast of the earth. and I will establish my covenant.
with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more. by the waters of a flood, neither shall there be any more flood to destroy the earth. And God said, This is a token of the covenant which I made between me and you. and every living creature that is with you for perpetual generations.
So Here this covenant that he makes Um It spans all dispensations. It spends all the dispensation periods. Every living thing.
Now, So that's who he made the covenant with. The second point is the intent. The intent we find in verses one through four that I just read man was to govern for God. Man was to govern for God. But, Janane, here we get to the most important part of this.
The most important part of this is this this is the entire purpose of divine human government. And and what I mean by that, I mean The legitimate, the real thing, okay? What we have is nowhere close to what God has given us. The entire purpose Of divine human government you find in these three verses, five through seven. Ready?
By the way, this is where you get the statute of the death penalty. And surely your blood of your lives will I require it, the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man. At the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood by man Shall his blood be shed for in the image of God made he man And you be fruitful, and multiply, and bring forth abundantly the earth, and multiply therein.
So The entire purpose of divine human government was to preserve the image of God. That's the entire purpose. It doesn't seem like a lot of people know that, Richard, you know. No, it's uh They they uh There's a Lack of reading the Bible is the problem, not so much as not knowing it, but they are ignorantly. Biblical illiteracy is very much so.
Yeah, and that's a shame. It's a shame, because there's so much in this.
Well then Point number four was the means by which Man was to govern for God, God's laws, God's statutes, God's covenants, God's commands, so on. But the fifth point was all peoples and all nations that would be in compliance with the first four. would be at peace and not at war with God. We look around on the earth, we don't see too many too many peoples that are not And yeah. A conflict with God.
Yeah, well, the scripture tells us that that's now with Jesus Christ, we have that peace that passes all understanding. We we have that peace, but as far as the world goes, no. No. His people too, yeah. Yeah, uh As far as the world goes, no.
This This country is not in compliance with God in so many ways, okay? And hasn't been for a long time. And that's one of the things I'll be preaching on. Let's go over. I want to jump over here.
And Janine. Uh as we go through here, if you have any questions at all, just jump in and ask, okay? Exodus chapter twenty one. Verses 22 and 23. You want to do that, Richard?
Yeah. If any man strive. and heard a woman with child so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follows. He shall be surely punished. according as the woman's husband will lay upon him, And he shall pay As the judges determine.
And if any mischief follows, Then thou shalt give life for life.
Alright, so now here What is he telling you? The mischief that follows is If they struggle and a woman jumps in and tries to stop it, Uh If she gets hurt, okay. if her fruit departs from her. Then that's mischief mischief has followed. If the baby dies then that man has to give the one the offender his life.
For life. Does that have a message about, um The personhood of man would you would you say, Jeanine?
Well, definitely. Uh reflected in our laws today. where you know many times we're you know you can't It's so difficult to sometimes reconcile our legislative or our legal system. You know, killing a baby is legal. But if you if as in those verses that you just read, if a woman is is hurt, it's harmed, and she's pregnant.
That is considered a form of manslaughter, and two lives would be lost. in our even in our laws today in many places. Um, whereas when, you know, when they wanna kill a baby in the womb Okay. I no holds barred. It's such a contradiction of right of you know uh of logic.
It's such a contradiction of logic, but that's exactly what what you're right, okay? If we go over to Leviticus chapter 20. You want to take that verse one through five? Sure. And the LORD spake.
Unto Moses saying, Again thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel. That giveth any of his seed onto Molach. He shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man.
and I will cut him off from among his people. because he hath given his seed to Molech. to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if a man of the land Do anyways. Hide.
their eyes from that man. When he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not. Then I will set my face against that man and against his family, and I will cut him off. And all that go ahooring after him, to commit whoredoms with Moach, From among their people.
Okay, so now he's making a point here. The point is. Not only uh to kill that child Was that man uh Thank you. be given the capital punishment. But, no, God's immutable, right?
So he doesn't change. Jesus said heaven and earth will pass, but what? His words will never pass away. Amen. But he's telling you that the if the people know.
That he has killed someone. And they do nothing about it. Then those people are blood guilty too. And again, God doesn't change. His laws remain the same.
And again, America we are standing in the shadow of a holy and a just God, okay? And I I gotta tell ya, It you know, we have such a dulness, a blindness out there. Because Those that are supposed to be In the church, they know this. They know this. out there.
And yet they allow it and That's one of the things I'm I'm going to be preaching on Lord's willing this week. Um a number of things that people know and it's like, well, You know, God's got to understand this is 2026. You know, things have changed.
Well, I'll tell you this: God does understand, that's for sure. And you will too, right? Yes. All righty. I want to go over to.
Well Proverbs chapter twenty four, verse ten, eleven, and twelve. And go ahead.
Okay. If thou faint, in the day of adversity Thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain, If thou sayest, Behold, we knew not. or we knew it not. Doth not he That pondereth the heart consideret?
And he that keepeth thy soul Does not he know it? And shall not he render to every man according to his works?
Okay, so here he's making a very clear point, right? Yeah. Now, I heard uh one of these mega church preachers on the radio. Uh somebody actually called him and asked him about this verse. Uh, if that is true, why aren't you you guys taking a pro-life stand?
Because, you know, Um Th these preachers were saying, Well, If it's legal, then you can't stand against it. As long as it's legal, you can't stand against it. Right. And so. He said Well, when it comes to those three verses, that's not referring to A literal Uh but that's referring uh to a spiritual.
Well, I got news for you. All you gotta do is read the first nine verses before that and it'll be very, very clear that it's it's talking about literal, okay. And so In other words, God is making it very clear. You can pretend. I remember after World War II, There were a number of G uh Germans came from Germany over, and they were working for my dad and uncle, and I would.
Well asked them 'cause I was a kid at the time. And I would ask him, uh Why did you guys let Hitler do that? You know, you saw what happened on TV and.
Well, you could always tell even as a kid I knew when when they dropped their eye contact when they didn't no longer look me in the eye. They said, Well, most of us didn't know about it, okay? But I could tell as a kid that they did. God is tellin' em here. Listen.
I know. I know that you know. Yeah. I look upon your heart, okay? That's right.
If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. We're living in the day of adversity, believe me. Oh, yeah. Killing children. uh is an abomination.
And I I can tell you this too. From Genesis to Revelation. God brought the harshest, the harshest judgment on people for killing their ch for sacrificing their children.
Well, and God means what he says. You know, these people that want to try to Sidestep it by saying, oh, that's a spiritual, uh, spiritualized scripture. You know, The thing is, if it's so obvious it's actual, it's what God is telling you. Wh how in the world, where do you get this spiritualizing of it? That's how you justify not being a doer of the word, but a hearer only.
Yeah, exactly. Deceiving your own self. Yeah. But that's so funny how people try to. Oh, well, no, that's spiritually.
What that really means is like they have some. Inside dope on it. You know, God says what he means. And he means what he says. Amen.
Let's go over to Jeremiah chapter 1. Read verse 5, Randy. All right, it says, Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee. and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee. and I ordained thee a prophet Unto the nations.
He's talking about predestination here, didn't he? Didn't he? No. You know, Janine, we often Pastor Fred and I, one of my associate pastors, he went home to be with the Lord, but Oh Neither one of us are are kids, right, Richard? No, we're certainly not.
Yeah, we've been around a little bit, but Pastor Fred and I used to. get each other about being older than dirt. But did you know that in reality We are older than Dirk. Because he tells you in Ephesians 1 that before the foundation of the earth, before God created the earth. We existed in the mind of God.
And he tells you that we existed. We even have names, okay? In the mind of God. And so he Here he's telling Jeremiah. Here Jeremiah exists not only in the mind of God, Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee.
And before thou comest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee. I ordain thee a prophet unto rest. The nations. I think that would be a great argument for personhood. What do you think, Janine?
Oh, definitely. you know, just to think about God even thinking of us, but to to think that he was thinking of us before all of this was formed. It just reinforces that love and the relationship that we have with him if we want it. And, you know, on the predestination topic, it's probably too late at night for me to try to be explaining this, but we have a book club, Clive and Rank to Life, we have a book club, and we most of the books we tend to read are actually spiritual in some form. Um and so last year we read Mere Christianity by C.S.
Lewis. Um in there he gave Predestination has always been something that obviously it's it's hard to conceptualize. Um, but he did a great job of explaining it in a way that really i i if I if I look at it visually, it helps me.
So the way that he he kind of explained it is that Um you know, we look at At life and time in a serial fashion, and you know, one step after another. And if you were to imagine, say, a line that's drawn across a piece of paper, a horizontal line, and then if you were to put vertical lines all across that paper. And then fold it over so that it so that those lines almost form like a circle. And At one point, all of those lines where we're looking at them in a serial fashion, they actually meet up in a dot, like a globe.
So it would be almost as if the North Pole, you've got all of those dots connecting at once. That's God being able to see everything at once. And here we are, moving along in time, and just one step after another. That helped me to conceptualize that concept of predestination. And um And just to remember, you know, God has us in his thoughts always from the beginning of time.
And I love that.
Well, yeah, it it's it's beyond our ability to even begin to, as you say, conceptualize. Um being omnipotent. Being all-powerful, having Uh No weaknesses, no You know Where He is and he tells you that he's he's Has no limitations. And that's really hard for us to grasp, isn't it? Yeah, and he's not controlled by time, too.
I mean, that's. The awesomeness of God, we can't put it in our minds. We can't understand God, really. That's why we have the Word of God, and that's why Jesus came, so we could relate to some extent. what God was like, but to really understand.
God Almighty, and all that He does is I I I don't think anybody can wrap their mind around something like that. It's just it's too Too fantastic, too awesome. Right. That that fellow named Albert Einstein, you know, he he said that when it comes to this God never has to theorize. In other words, He is the beginning, He is from the end, He knows the answers.
Uh not only does time not control God. Time is what God says it is. And so and that's again a hard thing to get a hold of. I want to take it over here because now we're going to talk about some of these democratic women. Oh, we're gonna talk about 'em.
Jeremiah too. You ready? Verse thirty three Why trimmest thou the way? To seek love, therefore Hast thou also taught the wicked ones the ways? Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents.
I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these Yet thou sayest Because I'm innocent, surely. His anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will plead with thee. because thou sayest I haven't sinned. Why gaddest thou about so much to change the way?
Why hast thou changed? and be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria. Actually He didn't really write this about the Democratic women, although it it does apply to them. But do you know do you know what he's s te saying here, Janine? These women whose skirts were filled with the blood of their innocents, And they're telling him we didn't do anything wrong because we were allowed to do it.
I kept the law. I didn't break any law. Uh, because God says, No, no, you're in more trouble than you can imagine, okay.
So, anyhow, that was the point that they were trying to make. And Yeah, and I think that that is I mean For women, if we relate that to women today, you know, everyone's got a conscience, and everyone's got really the truth of. God written on their hearts. And for us on the topic of abortion, whether women want to admit it or not, they regret it. And they have that lingering pain that goes on for years and years.
And it may not be something that they can even express verbally, but it's there. And Um, yeah, so when you see the signs of women who are, you know, bold and strong enough and um you know, willing to To be honest with themselves, when you see them carrying those signs that say, I regret my abortion, I mean, there's really so much truth in that. And it you can't get away from the fact that God has written a conscious conscience on all of our hearts. I've had many of those women on the program over the years, over the past 51 years. They've told their stories.
In fact, some of my Over the years most active prolifers were women that d uh did that and And that's true repentance is to turn around and go in the opposite direction.
So they That had killed her baby, spent her time trying to save him and keeping other women from doing the same. We'll be right back. On a cold winter's morning on a sidewalk in the city. A lost soul approached me. as the snow was Yeah.
I could see the look of death in his face. It was there in her eyes now. as I begin to preach. She begins. She said.
I'll admit it. I've come to kill my baby The whole world is telling me. that I have that right. But deep down inside me I have to read. Watch your free change.
Children are a gift of God. We've gotta give them light.
So I put my arm around And I gave her the gospel. It was right there. in the darkness that she received a light. few souls were a saving. What here?
And her baby. If you're called to do the Lord's work, you had better learn to do it correctly. You've got to know how to please it. Not just to please him. Don't try to walk away from it.
You can show the blessing. The keeper of your son. He's God the Son.
Now every creature knows the rock of his salvation. I will separate that comes from all issues. All men are sinners. They all need to save you. The only one to trust in is your soul that he'll keep.
And when I finish the preacher, woman was a believer, a baby. Her womb I knew she would keep. And now, 25 years later, her baby is a young creature. She's so very proud of the baby that she decided to keep. You got to know how to please him, not just to please him.
Don't try and walk away. He better count your cluster. The reason why you're aiming, he's the keeper of your soul. And he's got something you got to know how to feed. Not just to please.
Don't try to walk away. There's nowhere to run. You better count your Bless and do it while you're able. He's the keeper of your soul now. He's got the son.
You got to know you how. Not just a picture. Don't try and walk away from it.
Nowhere to run. You better try the button while you're aiming. He's the keeper of this soul. He's got the song.
Alrighty, we are back. And you know, Janine, that's the true song. That uh I wrote that about uh thirty years ago when uh When it took place, when that happened, I was there on Blood Alley, Shaker Boulevard, early in the morning. It was still dark out. It was b around I I think More around February and it would uh It was about seven o'clock in the morning.
And in front of the it used to be s the Surgery Center abortion mill at that time. which uh and I looked down along the tracks and I saw This woman approaching and it was way down the sidewalk, but you could see this black, like an aura of death around her, and I knew she was coming here. Right that we were the only two on the sidewalk. And as she got up close, I said to her, I said, You've come to kill your baby, haven't you? She said, Yes, I have.
And I said, Why are you going to do that? And she said, Well, they told me my baby would be born without a brain and a cephalic and I said, Oh, I see. Uh She was a white woman and I said You're the the father's a black man. She said, Well, how did you know? I said, They tell all the girls coming here that, you know, then they had another one for the whites and uh and uh she said, They do?
I said, They do. I hear that st I've heard that story so many times. Mm. And I said, Well, listen, I said, If you go in there to kill your baby Good chance you could die too. That happens a lot.
And uh I said, if that happens, are you going to heaven or hell? She said, I'd probably go to hell, wouldn't I? I said, yeah. I said, what are you going to do about it? She started crying.
She said, I don't know what to do about it. She was crying. And I I told her I I Give her the sinner's prayer. I didn't ask her. She got on her knees and it was snowing.
Snow was probably six inches deep. She got on her knees in that snow. took my hand and she said the sinner's prayer. And when she got up, She didn't even look the same didn't even her whole countenance was changed. And I said, Let me ask you a question.
Who's bigger, your problem or God's? She said, God's bigger, isn't he? I said, he is. She said, I'm keeping my baby and uh one year later she c she came came around with a baby. His name was Adam.
and guess what he had a brain. You know, and uh yeah, not a thing wrong with him at all. And so Wow. Anyhow. God bless you, Pastor Ernie.
What a story. Yeah, there's we had a lot of those over the years, and I'll never forget the when we had in DC one year I was speaking there at the National Right to Life Convention in. Here they had a banquet, banquet hall and I came in And um I hear There was a woman named Carol Everett. She had ran a bunch of abortion mills in. uh, Texas and she got saved and she came out of there And but I really didn't.
At that time want to talk to her for certain reasons. Anyhow, as I was wa she wanted to talk to me and I I guess I kind of put her up sh and she ended up we ended up being very good friends. But as I walked in, you know, I looking for my people 'cause they had tables of ten. And there was um Carol was sitting there and there was a An empty seat next to her and then next to that was a lady. and she had uh one of those little strollers with a baby in that stroller.
So as I went walking by, she stuck her head in my back pocket and pulled me back. She says, Sit down, we're going to talk.
So I sat down you ought to say this, Janine, as I sat down My hand went on on that little stroller there. Or what do you call it, a carriage? Yeah, and then As that happened, That baby in there grabbed a hold of my finger. And I mean, I had a hold, a tight hold on my finger. And so The lady sat next to her, the mother, says you know she was saved from abortion.
She said That um The mother had taken her into an abortion mill in Cleveland, and there were a pastor out there. And that pastor had confronted her and talked to her. I was the only pastor at that time. I was the only one at that time that was out there in front of those abortion mills. Man.
And uh. I said, I'll tell you now that pastor was me, okay. And uh That lady said, Look, it's it's almost like she knows it. God You know, God has done so many miraculous things, just amazing, and yes, so yeah, but guess what. Bring America back to life march thirteenth, Friday and Saturday the fourteenth.
I'm going to be there at the Embassy Suites at Independence. And uh there's gonna be Janine Jones is gonna be there. She'll be the pretty one, and I'll be the one that's not so pretty. But I'll be there at 5800 Rockside Woods Boulevard. Tell us what's gonna go what's gonna happen there, Janine.
All righty. Well, we've got a really packed Program this year we're excited about. We've got two really special gala keynote speakers. The Friday evening, Scott Klusendorf, who is a Pretty w world-renowned pro-life apologist. Just had him on the program about a week ago.
Oh, did you good? Good, yeah. And um yeah, so he'll be talking pro-life apologetics and um you know is As you know, Pastor Ernie, you know, anyone who's Oh, talk to people on the other side of this issue. You know, sometimes it's easy to kind of get tongue-tied and.
So he'll help us with getting those words out in a a godly and winsome way to help persuade people. He's very good at that. Yeah, and then on Saturday night we have Laura Logan, and so she's a know, famous journalist. She was she worked for Sixty Minutes for years and uh she's from South Africa, has a really interesting life story. Um, back during the Arab Spring um in twenty twelve, she was reporting about Oh, the fall of Mubarak in Egypt and she was attacked violently in Tahriri Square and she was raped by multiple men and So just, you know, she'll, her topic of her talk, and she travels a lot, she's got a whole, really a global perspective on things.
Um but her uh topic is America in crisis.
So that should be a very interesting uh talk. And then you know, as you know, Pastor Ernie, you've been a part of this for so many years, but we we kind of cover the spectrum of issues within the the life movement.
So This year we have a special emphasis on assisted suicide. We have two speakers, one on Friday and one on Saturday, but Alex Schadenberg, who's from Canada. He'll be our keynote on Friday, lunchtime. And he's going to help to bring us up to speed on what's happening in Canada with all of these medical assistance in dying laws that Are killing now. I think I read the other day, seven percent of their population dies due to assisted suicide now.
That's amazing. I know. And LifeSight News came out with an article where you can put in a request for assisted suicide and have it performed on the same day. But you have to wait months to see a doctor. Yeah.
So, um, things are horrible in Canada and they're They're trying to do the same thing in the UK. And of course, they're trying to do it here too.
So there are 13 US states where they have some form of legalized assisted suicide. And we're trying to get ready in Ohio because we anticipate that they're going to have their sites on us soon, too.
So the next day on Saturday, we have another lady who handles this topic in the United States, but more from a national perspective. Her name's Jessica Rogers, and she'll talk to us about this as well. And I think she's going to get into more detail on like New York just passed a law, but It's bad, obviously, but the good news is it took them 10 years to do that. There was a lot of resistance, and there was bipartisan resistance.
So, we're going to try to learn. from some of these kind of best practices of where there have been Successes or near successes in this battle.
So that's going to be something on the horizon that Ohio needs to be aware of in the next year or two. Um but then we've got some other incredible speakers. Um Marcia Matzker. She's going to talk to us on Saturday afternoon about AI in schools and how it's. not just impacting the children while they're in the classroom, but this technology is following them home.
And it's um the the schools are using it and the AI companies who are collecting all of this data on kids. And on their families. Are able to bypass the family in instances.
So just imagine, you know, you've got like a 11, 12-year-old boy, he's got a device or he's got a A sign-on for a device, and he's doing maybe some searching online that he shouldn't be doing. And the school is going to know about that. AI is going to know about that. And so a parent might get a knock on the door from CPS. and not even know that there's an issue.
So It's just we're in a whole brave new world with schools and AI.
So she'll talk to us about that. Oh, we've got a lady who's going to come. Her name is Dr. Janet Smith, and her specialty is contraception.
So she'll be the topic of her talk is contraception, why not? And so she'll talk about, you know, physiological uh effects on women. when they take different forms of contraception, but also the mental and spiritual. One thing I'm excited about is we have a really good panel on Saturday. We're calling it the Compassionate Action Panel.
And what we're trying to do is highlight some of the incredible work that's going on in Northeast Ohio from various different groups. We've got six different representatives from six different groups that do things like meeting material needs for women, maybe diapers or formula or clothes for their toddlers or babies or for themselves.
So, groups like Birthright and Womankind, and then we've got other maternity homes: Deli's home, Hannah's home. They'll be talking to us about the kind of the special niche work that they do with women. It's ongoing. It can last for two to three years, whether they're working with a particular woman and maybe her children. And then we've got the medical side of things with Veranova Health.
They provide for various different testing, prenatal testing, postpartum testing. They've got doctors and nurses on staff. there's a whole range of things where women in need, those needs can be met, especially in a more of a metropolitan area like this. And even post-abortion, Bethesda, the House of Mercy, they do an incredible job with Just comforting women and counseling them through their post-abortion trauma. That can go on for years and years.
So, want to try to highlight those good groups in the area and give them a little bit more exposure. And then we've got a couple of folks who are coming at things from more of an international perspective. Michael Hicksborn, he, you know, back last year, there was a lot of talk about. Uh the various NGOs and how much money they get, like USA ID. The money that goes to these various different non-governmental organizations.
You know, you assume that it's being used for good and for like feeding people and that type of thing.
Well, we learn through Doge that that isn't really happening all the time. Michael will talk to us about population control as foreign aid and how A lot of our tax dollars are going towards things that we just do not agree with. Yeah, it's like child sex trafficking and the NGOs have been involved in that. And the reality under the Biden administration, the reality, the our federal government was the world's largest sil child sex trafficking. And that's that's a fact, you know.
And they were using those NGOs. Many of them are involved in that. Yeah, and then along with that, um, Les Yor, she'll talk to us on Saturday at lunchtime about this whole globalist elite and the cabal of really satanic pedophiles and what's happening there.
So so she'll kind of bring in some of the current stuff regarding the Epstein files.
So we've got a broad spectrum of speakers touching on various topics. That's not just about abortion, but you know we really do try to to think about the like I said, the spectrum of issues But also Try to do it like seeing across the horizon so that we can bring our audience up to speed and they can be prepared. I mean, we're really. really trying to educate people. That's our main mission, is education.
So that's why I want to give these the women who are doing a lot of the hands on work, I want to give them a little bit more of a platform because they're They're doing yeoman's work and they're in the trenches in the midst of it. And not that we're not that we don't have value, obviously, we do, but our mission is education.
So, um You know, we want to really try to help, especially parents, understand. What are those things that are being done to their kids that they're just not aware of? And that's by design. You know, the schools don't want 'em to know what's happening.
So I just wanted to read one little Bible verse out of Deuteronomy chapter 30. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you. that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life that both thou and thy seed may live again. Abortion is America's national sin.
Um we stand this this country and I I've been preaching this for over fifty years and You know, here we're a nation standing in the shadow of a holy and a just and a righteous God. A holy, just, righteous God must punish sin. And boy, I'm gonna tell you, this country's got a lot to repent of and I've been preaching on this, Janine, for over a half a century, you know. Back in the early days, I was with Dr. Wilkie and Barb in the in the very beginning there.
And we have Linda Tice was with me back in those days. I love her. She's I'll see her. What a sweetheart she was. I met Dr.
Wilkie when I was in college. He came to me, I was at Miami University down in Oxford, and he I remember he came to speak, and you know, at that time I was a young, you know, eighteen, nineteen-year-old. I had no idea what a giant I was in the presence of, you know.
Well, we were sitting having lunch one day, and he He looked at me and he said, You know, he said, I won't see it in my lifetime, he said, but you may see it in your lifetime. We're in this and Back then I said, No, I'm I'm not gonna wait. you know, thirty years, we're gonna we're we gotta stop this sooner, of course. And that was fifteen oh fifty years ago and we're still fighting You know, we got Roe v. Wade overturned.
Uh but we're still fighting the fight. And he was right about r overturning Roe v. Wade. back in those days and But again, you know, there's no priority greater than life, whether it's physical or spiritual. That's the number one.
That's issue number one. And I'm gonna tell you. the one place where our Lord our God has been the most dishonored and disrespected is from the pulpit. They're the ones the the preachers, the pastors in the pulpit, are the ones that have the number one responsibility to stand against that. and when when they passed that Roe v.
Wade, We went to w we went to DC. There was a hundred of us. Um Janine, there's a hundred of us. But there should have been a hundred thousand of us. There really should have been that w that marched there.
I'm talking about pastor, I'm talking about clergy back in those days. But, uh But it's been a battle and we've been fighting a good fight and God knows Like we said, who was trying to rescue those being led to slaughter and drawn to death. You have such a job. I'm going to say, what a What a that is a great, great, big job you have, and anything that I can do, that any of us can do to help you. Uh you let us know because what a It is a A huge, huge uh task putting on this conference and Uh, I believe this is the largest pro-life conference in the country, is it not?
Well, of its kind, I think it is. You know, we've got two days of twelve speakers and Gosh, we used to have 18 speakers, which was a lot. But Pastor Ernie, we couldn't do it without our volunteer committee. We had the most incredible group of people and You know, once it's starting about mid-January, we get on a Friday morning, in fact, we've got our call tomorrow morning and Everybody's got their various different tasks and things that they work on. And so we do a weekly update, and we've just got an incredible group of people and volunteers and people like you who step up.
And you're going to be given one of the meal blessings at the convention. And I want to thank you for that. And I'd love it if you'd mention those stories that you told me today about the, you know, the babies that you saved. That will just resonate so with our audience. And I.
Well, you give me the platform and I'll get up there and talk all over the place.
Okay. All right.
Well, good, and thank you for your support through the years 'cause you're you're just always reliably there and um And you know, I needed someone to give a meal blessing and I knew I could reach out to you, so thank you for that.
Alrighty, that's uh very good. I'll have to get up with you later. I give you the list. I hope you got all those people that we're bringing because we got a table there. And uh you know we're bringing a bunch of our folks here I've been to every one, uh, from the very first one and And uh so as long as we're alive, I think I'll I'll keep coming to 'em, but Yeah, this is our 17th years, and I know you've been at every one.
And we've got your folks registered. I know that.
Well, yeah, what a like I said, it is quite a an accomplishment uh w in You're doing you're doing a great job. I mean, the way that uh I've been communicating with you and you have everything under control there, so Anyhow, let's tell them what it's going to be. Bring America back to life, March 13th, Friday. It starts at what, eight o'clock in the morning? eight o'clock in the morning, and then we wrap things up after our final talk.
Everything will be pretty much wrapped up by nine o'clock that evening. All right.
The tickets, if you want to just come in and just see the speakers, the tickets are thirty five dollars. But if you want meals, you can add those on individually. You know, you don't have to buy all the meals, but you can buy individual meals there on our website. The website is bringing America Back to Life.org. And so the speaker, $35 speaker pass will get you in for the full day.
If you want to do two days, it's $35 a day. And we still were close to selling out, but we've still got you know we've still got plenty of tickets here. If you get your tickets here before the weekend, I think you'll be fine. And we've got sixty booze of different vendors with all kinds of different um Oh, services and things to sell and information.
So it's just, I think people who attend they walk out of their energized. I've run into a number of people that come from out of state, a number of people from Michigan, Pennsylvania. And uh you know we've had people from 18 different states uh through the years, yeah, yeah.
So, can I give the phone number out? Uh, it's Two one six six six one three thousand, is that right?
Well, that's the number for the store. The best way to get information is really to go to the website, bringing America Back to Life. org. Or you can email me at it's very simple, jjones at ClevelandWrightTolife.org.
So All right, very good. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me on, Pastor Ernie. I really appreciate it.
Well, thank you. I know how busy you are. I know how hard you worked, and we kept you up late tonight. But God bless you. Looking so forward to seeing you again.
Well, same here. Thank you, and God bless you. Thank you so much. Have a great night. Bye-bye.
Oh, righty. She's a real sweetheart, that lady is. She's a real a hard worker.
Okay. All of those ladies there, I mean at the the right to life move what a difference between them and you know, I've I've had my runs with a feminist. And uh you know there's they have a lot of anger in on those feminists.
Well, they've called me a lot of bad names. Yeah, trying to put a program together like that is a lot of work. Yeah, it is. I've done a all day s uh grouping thing like that wi when I was with ATNT for other reasons, of course, but uh It's a tremendous amount of work and a lot of planning, and it takes a lot of everything coming together at one time. I don't know if I have the patience to do it anymore.
I mean As we get older, you know.
Sometimes, but Yeah, they they just do a tremendous job. Yeah, it's tremendous. A lot of work. And, you know, when we were talking about Uh the original Right to Life when we started Oh Ohio Right to Life back oh, it's been a long time, but over fifty years, I think about fifty three years ago and There's only that that I know of, only two of us from that original board still alive. She's gonna be there, the other one.
She her and I are gonna be there. And that uh So yeah, Pastor, I'm glad to hear that she's also she was covering the situation in Canada. uh with the assisted suicide and now they're trying to Passed that legislation for also those that have mental illness. And when I think about the fact that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination. When you think about those that have mental illnesses, their processes and thinking is not the same.
And it's just like many times like a child that can't defend themselves. But that's the legislation that they're looking to pass over. Their legislation, you know, you have. uh where people go through bouts of depression.
Okay. And um Here Uh They Okay. You know, you've heard people say, I just wished I was dead. I mean, at one time or another in our life, we all wished that we weren't, you know, when we were up against something very hard. Uh And what happens is They have a a bad day.
You get some really bad news, you're really depressed, so you go. And you can you can be euthanized that same day, they'll kill you.
Well, I thi I think that goes along with the women that are facing uh all of a sudden they're with child. And uh that's a almost a form of depression. And then they talk them into having abort oh, abortion's gonna resume all this and now you won't have any more problems. We're gonna take your problem away for you. And they have no idea.
And you have that postportum. How much time do we have left here? All right.
The postpartum is another thing there.
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