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Alrighty, we're back. And, you know, years ago, right now, in the past few years, we've talked a whole lot about human trafficking, especially during the Biden regime, where the federal government, our federal government, was the world's largest. uh body of human sex traffickers, children especially. Our federal government they used Um the NGOs the the uh that cooperated with the government and The intelligence agencies all were apart under the Biden regime. virtually satanic.
The Joe George or Joe Biden was virtually the worst president in the Totally Anti-God, anti- America. He was just a very and he still is a very wicked, wicked man. But anyhow This has been going on even for years, years it's been going on. and it should have been uncovered many, many years ago. We tried it.
We did. Uh in fact, I had I've been threatened and told that I were making very important and powerful people very Uh Well Very uneasy, and it would be good if I were you. Unfortunately for them, there is one very important in. and powerful person, or not even a person that Uh That takes that That takes the leadership, you know. Yeah.
So anyhow But there was a man who was a very good friend of mine, Ted Gunderson, and he worked And he had he worked out of the Los Angeles office. In fact, he worked for ten years. He actually was a Worked right in the Office for Herbert Hoover. The fer the FBI, first FBI President, or what would you call it? Director.
Director, yeah. And he knew him very well, and he told me all of these rumors that they started about him were totally false. I mean, he worked with him every day. In there. And they try to say That he was a a transgender, this and that, he wasn't.
You know, that was uh totally false. But Ted Was a man of very, very high mean, very high integrity, and He worked out a Los Angeles office, that was his area there. But he had he had uh authority over the whole Southwest, in other words Uh Texas, Arizona, New Mexico. California, Nevada, you know, the whole thing. And anyhow, he's going to tell his story, so for the next twenty minutes we're going to hear what Ted had to say, so take it away.
Good morning. Today is July 25. two thousand three. I'm Ted Gunderson. Former FBI agent.
I had it on duty. Retired March 1979. At the time of my retirement, I was in charge of the FBI Los Angeles division. which was responsible for most of Southern California, I had over 700 personnel under my command and a budget of $22 million. Shortly after I retired, I was asked to investigate as a private investigator.
the doctor Jeffrey R. MacDonald case. It was after that. The investigation of this case that I realized some of the serious situations that confronted our nation today. Within ten months of entering the case, I obtained a signed confession.
from one of the assailants. doctor McDonald had been convicted of the crime It involved the murder of his wife, pregnant, and two children, two and a half and five and a half years old. The courts refuse to accept my Confession, the girl's name. was Helena Stokely. saying that she was not credible.
However, in researching the matter further, I learned that Helena had been an informant for the government and also for the local Fayetteville, North Carolina Police Department.
So, in other words, she was not credible in connection with the McDonald case, but she was credible enough before this. to work with various government sources. Alina told me that uh that night was her initiation into a satanic cult. This cult was involved in distributing drugs up and down the east coast. Drugs that were being flown in from Southeast Asia in military and planes.
The operation was by the certain Army personnel and also CIA. She told me that there were generals involved in the drug operation There were police officers and at least two attorneys in the Fayetteville, North Carolina area. As a result of receiving this information, I went public. And from going public on talk shows, TV shows, and so forth. people from throughout the country came to me with the same basic stories.
People from the East Coast and the West Coast.
South, Midwest, and Northwest. It was then that I realized these people who did not know each other were furnishing the same basic information about satanic cults. And of course, as a result of this, I delved further into the situation. The path that this led me down is mind-boggling. Over the last 23, 24 years, I have developed so much information about the situation as it exists in our great country and gone public with it as much as possible.
And yet I'm being ignored. and the information I have furnished to authorities is being ignored. And I'll go into that later on in this interview. But the point in question here is This is when the lights went on for me.
Now in looking through the situation And as a result, of my research Of course. I knew that we were ad advised about Pearl Harbor. several days before the attack on Pearl Harbor, yet It was supposed to be a surprise attack. I talked to the naval intelligence officer who received the message In Washington, D.C., on December the 4th, 1941, that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor. He sent the message on to his superiors.
After the war, he was subpoenaed before a committee, congressional committee. He was told by his superiors at that time Ignore this opinion. You don't understand now, but you will later on. As we all know and is well documented, We knew in advance of Pearl Harbor. It was covered up.
And then you have the Jack Kennedy assassination. There was more than one shooter involved in the Kennedy assassination. Lee Harvey Oswald was a pawn. It was a combination of the CIA. and the Chicago mob Sanji and Canna.
This is very well documented in a T V series that's appeared on A and E about every six months as a matter of fact. It's called The Men Who Killed Kennedy. by Nigel Turner, an English producer. And then we have Bobby Kennedy assassination. Bobby Kennedy's assassination, there were more bullet holes in the walls and the doors.
Than Saran Saran's weapon, gun, could hold. There were more people involved in that, another cover-up. And then we had the most notary of all at that after that subsequent was Ruby Ridge. Randy Weaver refused to be an informant for the government. He was set up.
and he had refused to appear in the courts. And as a result, we had the Randy the Ruby Ridge. Fiasco, we're an FBI sharpshooter. killed his wife while holding the baby. Another cover-up.
And then we had Waco. Uh Waco was um an unbelievable situation because the military was there And it took on the Quresh and his followers And that's in direct violation of Pasikomitanis, whereby the military is not allowed. To become involved in the enforcement of civilian population. Of course, the FBI was there also. and BATF was also there.
There were four a body there were four um BATF officers who were shot. And the crush people were blamed for the shooting.
However, In researching that matter, I have learned that all four BATF agents. took a shot to the head.
Now this means that there was a sharpshooter there And in one instance, the bullet came from above into the man's lip and down into his body. That was just one. In further research in the matter, I learned that these four VATF agents. Had at one time Then a bodyguard for Bill Clinton, the President of the United States. And next we had the World Trade Center bombing.
in February 1993. Unfortunately, There were six people killed. But What happened there was The FBI had an informant, Salam, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer. And he wore a body guard, a body mic when he went uh in on his contacts with the terrorists. And as a result, they had an open and closed case at the trial.
However, he testified at the trial that he also wore a body mark when he was interviewed by the FBI agents. And uh at that time He said that, hey, I've been commissioned to put the bomb together by the terrorists. We're going to use a dummy bomb, aren't we? His superiors in the FBI said, no, we're going to use a real bomb. The point being The FBI not only knew in advance of the bombing of the World Trade Center in February 1993.
The FBI furnished the ingredients for the bomb. Documentation. The New York Times article, October 23. But then we had Oklahoma City. And in Oklahoma City, which occurred in 1995, They claimed that Tim McVeigh and Nichols were involved.
I personally made two trips to Oklahoma City out of my pocket and investigated the case. I have a 220-some page report that's available to the public. Concerning this situation, And I was told by an inside investigator that there were at least 11 other people involved in Oklahoma City. And then after Oklahoma City, we had the World Trade Center. Of course, September 11th.
two thousand and one. And it's been well documented. through numerous sources And I'll go into that more in detail in a few minutes. that there was much more to this. than we've been told by the mainstream media.
And as a matter of fact, if you look at those last three uh cover-ups world trade center february 93 Oklahoma City. and World Trade Center 2001. you will note that there is a Middle East connection in all three of them.
Now, after the Jeffrey McDonald case I was involved in a number of other investigations. Which I have learned have also been covered up by authorities who are responsible for investigating these matters. In addition to the Jeffrey McDonald case, I investigated a case on the west coast, Manhattan Beach, California, called the McMartin. trial, McMartin Preschool case. The children said that after they were dropped off by their parents in the morning Uh the um authorities, the teachers, in a number of instances, took them down through tunnels, And up into a trapdoor, the triplex next door, place them in automobiles.
took these two, three, four-year-old children out into the community. where they were prostituted. The authorities again claimed that this is not true. The children were exaggerating. They were influenced by their therapists.
Well, in 1990, I had an opportunity to gain control of the McMartin school property. I hired an artist, along with some of the parents, of course. I hired an archaeologist, Dr. Gary Stickler from UCLA. and we began an excavation of the property.
The authorities had looked for tunnels under the school in 1987, said there were none, they could find none.
Well, Dr. Gary Stickle, after 34 days, specifically stated That there were definitely tunnels there. He came up with this conclusion in the middle of the second trial of Ray Buckeye. We called the district attorney's office. He sent an investigator named Perez out who argued with Dr.
Sickle that there were no tunnels in the school. The authorities ignored the fact that we did find these tunnels. In other words, the children, in my opinion, were telling the truth. At least they were telling the truth. About the tunnels.
Now uh other activity that the children claimed they were involved in or were exposed to Were adults in robes chanting with candles. They talked about the burning and the sacrifice and the murder of babies in ceremonies. Obviously a satanic ceremony. This is just a touch of what I've been involved in. I might also mention that in the late 1980s, I was actively involved in what's called the Franklin cover-up.
This is a case where children were Flown from Sioux City, Iowa to Washington, D.C. for sex orgies with congressmen senators, and it goes all the way at that time up to the White House. And this case again was covered up. I've written letters. To the Attorney General of the United States.
to the Attorney General of the State of Nebraska. and documented this. And as a matter of fact, I have a report that contains details concerning this case. And it ties into an organization in Washington, D.C. known as the Finders.
This is my report. on the finders. And this not only is documented out of my investigation with former State Senator John DeCamp. It's documented through the U. S.
Customs. In 1987, the Tallahassee Police Department Received a phone call. anonymously uh from an individual who said that there were two well dressed men and a number of children in the park The police went down, arrested the man, looked at the children. The children didn't even know how to use toilets or telephones. They traced the case to Washington, D.C.
to the finders. And in researching this, and as a result of the information furnished by the U. S. Customs Agent. In fact, I have the U.
S. Customs Agent report here. It was uh noted that The finders an organization established in the early 1960s was involved in kidnapping children. And I have the last paragraph of the last page of the customs report in front of me. And let me just uh read uh this portion to you.
This customs agent arrived at the scene of the finders. on April the 2nd, 1987. And he was told by the Metropolitan Police Officers who had conducted searches there through search warrants. That the circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the activity of the finders. had become an internal CIA matter.
The Metropolitan Police Report has been classified secret and was not available for review. I was advised, this is the customs agent. That the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior, and that the FBI foreign counter. Intelligence Division, that's Division V. Had directed the Metropolitan Police Department not to advise the FBI and Washington Field Office of anything that had transpired.
The Washington Field Office is the investigative branch of the FBI in the Washington, D.C. area.
So this was not only withheld from the public, It was also withheld from their own agents within the organization. The kidnappings of children, the missing children in this country, is a very serious matter. I have in front of me a July 1982 Reader's Digest article. about missing children. And this article states that 100,000 children disappear.
every year and I never heard from again in the United States.
Now we're not talking about the runaway teenagers. We're talking about two, three, four. four-year-old children. I have personally made formal complaints to the FBI on this case. on six occasions and been ignored.
By the way, let me also show you a headline in the Washington Times which uh is dated June 29, 1989. And this headline points out the homosexual Probe and snarls officials of Bush and Reagan. What better documentation do you need? Again, I have been ignored. And it's un inconceivable that a person with my credibility a person who at one time was one of the top executives in the FBI.
We file a complaint. with the FBI and be ignored.
So we have a cover-up in Pearl Harbor, Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Ruby Ridge, Waco, World Trade Center 93, Oklahoma City 95. Uh we have a 911. in two thousand and one. And then I personally go out In the interim and during that same period, and develop information about criminal activity that's taking place in this country. And I am ignored.
Well In order to understand this situation, Let me tell you a little about Promise Software. Promise software was a computer that was developed by Bill and Nancy Hamilton out of Washington, D.C. It was able to gather together and contain. Uh information, compile information. Concerning law enforcement, the court procedures.
Um The judge activities, of course, as far as the courts were concerned. And other activity at various levels, all levels basically. What it was, it was an intelligence gathering device. and the Department of Justice leased this from the Hamiltons for two years. At the end of two years, they refused to pay the Hamiltons the $10 million that they owed to the Hamiltons.
The Hamiltons went into court. Bankruptcy court. Filed a lawsuit, they won in court, but the court said, You're in the wrong court, you need to go to the district court. And of course, they had spent over a million dollars at that point and couldn't continue to carry the case out. at another level.
Now, after the Department of Justice refused to pay the Hamiltons. They gave the Reagan administration through former Attorney General Meese. I gave the promised software To a fellow named Earl Bryant. Earl Bryant's former owner of the United Press International. Bryant then took this computer promised software Sold it to the Canadians.
the English, the French, and the Israelis. And what the British Canadians, French, and Israelis didn't know at the time. was that we had put a trapdoor in that computer So, all the information, intelligence information that those countries gathered was also available to us, unknown to those countries, of course. the person who put that trap door together was an individual named Michael Reconisudo.
Alrighty. We're back. to make clear was that um You had in the administration that that went to the Bush and Reagan administration now. It wa it didn't uh It did not accuse Bush or Reagan. In fact, it was You know Reagan would have nothing to do with that.
He was above that. Daddy Bush was a member of the Skull and Crossbones, but there was never an accusation, but there were people in the administrations Just like, you know, we've known that, you know. And this is why, you know, I keep begging people to to wake up because. We're living in a time the apostate church is filled with paedophilia. is Satanism, you know.
Um United Church, what they call United Church of Christ, I call it the Antichrist. You notice that a lot of them they would have daycare centers to make children available to sodomites. They embrace. the worst kinds of sin. We've been tr and you know, we try to warn uh people about all of this and this way We've got to weed them out.
We've got to. Uh route the The Devil Mm-hmm. Out of the out of things, folks. You know, resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
And so I knew Randy Weaver. He was a friend of mine. I knew him very well. This radio program is response they would have Uh burnt him out his cabin And what happens? There was one.
When this was taking place, when they went after Randy at Ruby Ridge, and by the way, Do you know what that was all about? Uh Kenny They they wanted Randy to go into a church. out there inspyin' the church uh the you know, the Clinton Mub They wanted him to go in And uh they wanted us to c to accuse uh this church of uh wanting to of arming of becoming an armed uh And and uh overthrow the government anyhow.
So Randy was former Marine, Randy did go in. Uh and Uh He went in under cover. He was doing this as patriot in He come back and he said, They're not doing any of that. They're not s stocking up on firearms or anything like that. They're not th th th that's not the kind of church Yeah, he said, So I'm not gonna I'm not going to do that any more.
And they said You don't walk out on us. You do what we tell you. And he said, No, I don't.
So they sent a guy in. And Ro Randy, one of the things Randy did is he would work on guns. He kind of a gunsmith and things. And they this guy would ask Randy to give him a shotgun to make him his uh and the barrel was one quarter inch He said it had to be exactly this. this size, exactly to fit in a a certain compartment or whatever.
Right, to to make it just small enough to be illegal, correct? And he right, he did it one quarter inch under the legal limit. And That's all they needed, and they came after him. For doing that. They set them up.
When he refused to go to court, uh, 'cause I knew him and I you know, him and I talked He told me They came after him. They came to his place, and then finally they came up there. on his mountain, where he lived up there. And they came up And they shot first of all, they shot his dog, And wh and uh when Sammy Sammy, I think, was like twelve or thirteen, but he was small for his age. He was out hunting deer on the side of the mountain.
he saw what happened. He sh he shot back at these Federal agents, these corrupt Federal agents that were up there, And one of 'em Uh his name was like Harris Schirp I'm trying to remember it was like Maharaj or something like that. Um I remember he was at Waco shooting the children as they ran out. Of the burning building, folks should know. I'm telling you all this because this is what will happen.
Remember what they did for the J Sixers.
Okay, remember how they were they're going after uh if Biden had won again I'd probably be in prison today, okay? Or not alive. Right. And so Then they came Vicky Was standing in the doorway. She was holding her baby, it wasn't even a year old baby in her arms, standing in the doorway.
and he shot her. Right in the head. That coward, an unarmed woman holding a baby. And he got a promotion from the Clinton mob. Of course, he did.
Yeah, that's how Democrats are. That's just how they are.
Okay.
So anyhow, this is why I'm telling you folks you got to go Don't get lazy. Right, you've got to start, not just that, but you've got to start telling others that, you know, we've got to get out, we've got to vote. Because the voda fraud's going to be unlike anything you've seen. The opposition is is in a panic, okay? And they're afraid of what's coming out.
They know If Trump uh If if We win that, we win the house, we have more power. More of them are going to go to prison for their crimes. Anyhow, when it comes to the best. They're looking at these midterms right now as their last stand. Yeah.
And if they if they can if they can get the midterms and if they can take control of the House or the Senate or or Forbid both, you know. I mean. If they can get both, then they're going to do everything they can to. Undo anything that Trump has done and to impeach him, impeach Christy Noam, impeach. Cash Patel, every single one of them.
Every single one of them, they'll try to. They'll try to impeach, and at the very least, they'll try to s stop them from getting their job done. Absolutely, they will. And you know, here. You know, when it talked about Waco, we actually had p p Pastor Charlie McN uh My damus was there, Charlie Mannis was there, anyhow, and we had people there that were on the ground watching everything that was happening.
And here You know what took place there. Not only did they set the place on fire, they had federal, they used the military. But three of those federal agents were bodyguards to Bill Clinton. Do you d did you ever hear of Talgate? Yeah.
Okay, Talgate was w was took place on a one of the large naval ships I think it in fact, I believe it was aircraft carrier. Where Clinton was on they had a huge party on that ship. And we're Um Several of the female officers were raped. And three of Clinton's bodyguards there were were three were the three men at Waco, the three Uh feds that ended up getting shot in the head. And they weren't they weren't shot by any Well, that's a coincidence.
Yeah.
They knew everything, okay. And so they were shut up, they were eliminated. A lot of this stuff, folks, we brought this out years ago. You know what else we brought out? John de Camp.
Uh when uh And the Franklin cover-up, the finders, all that. We talked about all of that years ago. We expose a lot of that. That's back, you know, that's when I was getting all those threatening phone calls. But anyhow, Let's open the phone line.
Let's go to a quick break. And this song was about Ruby Ridge. We'll be back after this. The phone lines are open at 888-677. In the mountain.
Up near Sanpo. North of Naples, Idaho Eagles gathered there together Are the truth?
So you might know Down the road that followed Deep Creek, at the turn that crossed the bridge, Federal Marshals had the road blocked. Mark the siege of Ruby Ridge. There the armies of the enemy slayed your bride and only son. Nearly killed your close companion when the shrapnel pierced his lung. We stand with you, Randy Weaver, cause your Lord and Savior lives.
Wheresoever eagles gather, that is where his body is. On that evil. in late one August You were forced to take your stand. There two strangers as they trespassed Drew first blood on private land Governor Andres back and boise Let the enemy tell him lies And from his antichrist decision Sam and Vicki lost their lives Federal agents, US Marshals and FBI men stormed the hill All on false, fictitious charges, given orders shoot to kill. We stand with you, brandy weaver, 'cause your Lord and Savior lives.
Wheresoever eagles gather. That is where his business Oh yeah. Though the armies of the enemy. may surround us. in the night.
There's a host of heavenly angels hovering near, ready to fight. We stand with you, Randy Weaver. We are proud to call you friend. As we gather here together to stand beside you till the end. We stand with you, Randy Weaver, cause your Lord and Savior lives wheresoever he grows.
Together, that is where his body is. Wheresoever. Eagles gather, that is where his body is. Yeah, the phone lines are open at 888-677-9673. And uh Kenny Again, you know, because of this radio program, they would have burnt Randy out.
But Jack McLam and Bo Grace were down and they were talking. To the federal agent in charge. Again there were people on the side of the mountain With uh binoculars and telephones, and they were they called in live on the radio program live. I was on in the afternoon then. And they told me exactly what happened and so Here, when Jack McGlam and Bo Grice were done to negotiate, by the way, there was.
There were probably A couple of hundred of Randy's neighbors and friends. you know, from that area out there uh up against the Federal agents. They One of the Federal agents went down and told the guy in charge, There's a guy back in Cleveland on the radio. He's telling everybody. What's happening?
They had a helicopter. They were going to dump uh Airplane fuel on the cabin and burn them out. Unreal. Like they did it, yeah, like they did at Waco.
Okay, they. And so See, that's a test. They want to know. Just how much the people will tolerate, how far can they go, how far can they push, how much. Control can they get?
And uh Again, can you imagine if Hillary Clinton had had won the Presidency? What would have happened? And this is why we keep telling people, you know. I had John DeCamp there from the Franklin cover-up. He was the state senator back then.
I had him on the radio program. And boy, I'm going to tell you, he was he dropped a number of names of what they were doing. And again You know, we expose a lot of that.
So at least they have to back off for a while. And it's just it's just so deep, and that's just like this whole thing with the Epstein thing. You've got such wealthy, wealthy people involved in this And we have to come clean. You know, there there's gotta be a time where It's gotta come clean. We just gotta we gotta have the the courage to do the right thing.
And so There you go. Phone lines are open at eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three. I'm hoping I'm on the air. You don't know anymore. Yeah, you know.
Yeah, you're on. At least in Massachusetts, we know, because we got Jeff.
Alrighty, let's go to Jeff. Hey, Jeff! Oh, thank you very much. Great program tonight, and I want to add some good stuff to the program. Uh number one, look up Alexi Stubb about a decade ago.
He's a Hezbollah terrorist and he was taking surveillance photographs of the Prudential building. I think Fenway Park and other Boston and New York landmarks And the reason why I'm talking about this is because we're about to go to war with Iran. But what the American sheep don't realize is that if Iran blocks off the street of farm moves, and activate the activates his terrace Guess what you'll have? you will have prices spike up along with food prices and other things. and terror attacks, the possible takedown of buildings, And and the beginning of the dividing of America.
Because once Normie goes hungry, He will realize basically Oh my goodness gracious, we gotta do something about this. in Massachusetts. We Massachusetts w will become a a communist Islamic area where women will be wearing burqas. by twenty fifteen or by two thousand 50 or later on. And the South and Midwest will become very Nazi-like and de-Islamized.
their areas because once Once the people of South and Midwest realize these are not Catholic and other Jewish rabbis taking down these buildings, They're gonna lose it. What do you think, Pastor?
Well, I think you're right. And the Democrats will they will go along on the side of the terrorists and the Ayatollah. has warned you know, about his sleeper cells here. He's w he's warned about that, that uh that he activates those sleeper cells And again, you can expect the Democrats to support The enemy, okay? And this is why We we we need less and less.
We we Democrats, we got to Well, we gotta get out. We gotta. Gotta get to the polls. This midterm is very, very important. But We have to let The Justice Department Because I believe that uh they give it enough time.
They're going to go after the The the Democrats One at a time. It's not revenge, it's justice. These people are very corrupt. and ninety nine per cent of them Are those child molesters? My guess estimate about ninety nine percent are Democrats.
Oh, oh oh, Pastor, I'm gonna wrap up the call with this. I worked for Liberty Neutral as a security officer in Boston for 11 years. And I was right by the John Hancock Tower. One of the things that scared me was Was a car bomb taking down the John Hancock Tower. That's why I left Boston as soon as possible.
I tell people don't go around that area if possible. Because you see, we got the biggest mosque in New England in Roxbury, Massachusetts. And it's a radical mosque. And there's been lawsuits filed against it. This is for real.
So so don't be surprised if you see Any Boston landmark or New York landmark being taken down, and we're under a state of martial law with $50 a pound hamburger. Pastor, thank you for having me on. God bless you. Keep up the good work. Thanks for calling.
You do the same. God bless you. All righty, very good.
Well, we do have open lines. Uh 888-677-9673. If you're out there and you could hear, call in. Yeah.
I would have thought, uh you know, after Friday night that tho those phone lines would be You know, they they would be brigging off the hooks. But anyhow, So, what happened in that case with, like I said, Randy Weaver. You know, what they did is set you know, we talked about that, they they attacked The the family un unbelievable there. And uh These are the peop kind of people we're dealing with though. You're absolutely right.
They are. They L let me tell you, Hillary Clinton would have no problem Eliminating every conservative Christian, every Christian. Not a problem with that. Man, woman, or child. And I and I feel the very same thing about um Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Uh, they would you know, you saw what Biden did, how With the January Sixers, he's the January Sixers with all the the COVID restrictions, the pro-lifers, you know, sending for praying. They went after home schoolers, okay. Right in some right in our area, they went after some houses right in our area where people were simply home schoolers, okay. These are people j like like our own Amy Act and who's running for governor of Ohio. Oh.
Said that strip clubs and liquor stores are essential businesses, but your church isn't. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, you could. You can stay they can stay open for COVID.
Amy Acton, who was running for governor. And and uh where churches had to close. That tells you something right there. And see the the ironic thing is all these people like Hillary Clinton profess to be Christians. They're professing Christian.
I know. I know. We've got Lou in Michigan. All right, very good. That means we're on the air in Michigan, at least.
Hey Lou. Good evening. Good evening. How are you? call up to see if I can make another donation since you lost last Friday.
That's all I was calling about. Absolutely. You can make a donation to us at the do you get the newsletter? Yes, I do.
Okay, you'll have a little return envelope and that we could use it because we got we really it hit us at a hard time. Yeah, you I heard you earlier talk about it. I was just calling in and letting you know that I was going to give you another hundred. Thank you very much. We appreciate it.
Every little bit helps.
Well, I'll thank you for what you're doing, and you hang in there, brother. I will. God bless you. Lou in Michigan, $100. All right.
There you go. There you go. All right, thank you. There you go. Very good.
Nice. All right. Little uh impromptu pledge day. We got time for maybe one more phone call than Pastor Well, we've got Pastor Hell on hold. Um And unless someone else wants to call in, we can go to Pastor Howell in.
Yeah, we got wa wa just enough time for one quick call.
So, but that call will have to come within the next minute. In other words, They'd have to call it. Yeah, you better be dialing, folks. Because Pastor Hal is up next. He's going to tell us how to get to heaven.
And uh that's a There's nothing that means more than that. There's nothing as important as Because we're all gonna leave this world. But until we do, We have to be doers of the word, not just hearers only. We have to run to the battle. Yeah, it's important what we do while we're here.
Right. Romans chapter twelve verses one and two that we use our bodies as a reasonable sacrifice our living bodies, in other words, in service to the Lord, And so And that's what we that's how I finished this week's message with too. Uh in Ecclesiastes. Uh you ready for one more? Yeah, we're ready for one more.
Yeah, Randy in San Diego. Hey, Randy, you're in the air. Morning, Pastor Ernie, how you doing? How are you? I'm doing all right.
I took a tumble on a hill in the rain. Oh, no. Act's okay. But I'll tell you what, I'm blessed. Got out of church, and it was a great service.
with a missionary going all over the world. Are you banned? Oh, okay, up here, Randy, we have snow. We have a whole lot of snow. I'm foot deep.
How deep? Yeah, it's at least a foot the last time I came in. Yeah, that's pretty pretty amount a large amount of snow you got going. Yep.
So it's been a little while since I spoke with you because I've been real busy. That's why you haven't heard from me, but I want to get back in tune with you. Be a regular. I wanted to comment. Last year, I said I'd be on your show for 53 times, it was actually 53 the day before my birthday, which was January 30th.
So yeah, I've done it fifty three times.
Well, happy belated birthday. And we're thank you. And we're still supporting you. We'll still send you some more funds, and I'm telling people out in San Diego about you, of course. All right, well we've certainly appreciated it.
We need it right now. But right now I gotta go with Pastor Hal. But thanks, Randy.
Okay, Pastor Howe, you've got about seven minutes. Tell the folks out there how they can avoid that burning lake of fire, how they can get to heaven. Every one of them that's listening tonight. They're listening because they're alive, and every single person that's alive some day won't be. And uh Well, and that's reality.
So let em have it, Pastor Hal. Tell em How to get to heaven.
Okay, first of all, it's the devil's job to try and keep you from hearing the good news of the gospel. The devil has blinded the minds of most of the people in this world to the glorious gospel of Christ, and that glorious gospel is found in the Word of God. God made a simple plan of salvation for all of us. And you know, when Jesus Christ died on that cross, God was allowing him to pay the payment on that cross for every sin we've ever done. In other words, God hates sin, and he cannot let sin come into heaven, no matter how much he loves you.
So, what he did was allow Jesus to transfer your sins upon his son, and when Jesus died on that cross, He was being allowed to pay the payment for every sin you and I have ever done. And right before he died, he said, It is finished, which means all the work necessary for our redemption has been accepted by God the Father. But now that payment doesn't become yours automatically. First of all, in Ephesians 1:7, it says that we're saved through the blood of Christ. That's what it tells us.
And it's through his blood that we have redemption. It's not through your good works. Most of the people that I used to deal with out on the street when I had a street ministry. Me uh Presbyterians, Methodists, whatever, They all were told in their church that if they live a good life and try to keep the Ten Commandments and all this stuff, If their good works outbalance, their bad works, they'll go to heaven.
Well, listen, folks, if you could quit sinning right now, And never sin again to the day you died, which would be impossible. Just the sins you've already done would keep you out of heaven. That's why you need the blood of Christ to be applied to your soul to wash away every sin. And so God sees the righteousness of His Son in you instead of your own sinful righteousness. John 1:12 said, But as many as received him, To them gave he the power to become the sons of God.
Is not just knowing about what Jesus did for you on the cross, but receiving the payment He paid for you on that cross, opening up the door of your heart and asking Jesus to come in and give to you the payment he paid in your place so you don't have to die and go to hell. And now this is the greatest news you could ever receive. If you do something with it, it'd be the best thing you ever did. And Ephesians 2.8 and 9 says, For by grace are you saved through faith. It's not of yourselves, it's the gift of God.
Not of works lest any man should boast. In other words, nobody is going to be walking around heaven, patting himself upon the back and saying, I got here because I was such a great churchgoer, a great person, a good Methodist or Baptist or whatever. We're all going to be given Jesus Christ 100% of the glory and praise for getting us there because he's the one that did all the work to get us there. All we had to do is by faith repent of our sins. That means admit to God that you're a sinner and that you've sinned against him.
Be sorry about the fact you're a sinner. Ask Jesus to come into your heart and he will. And so God hears me talking to you right now. God knows what's going through your mind and through your heart right now. And in Romans 10, 13, he told you how to receive Christ.
He said, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. That means if you believe in your Mind in your heart that Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood to save your soul, which he did, and that's what the Bible says he did. And then you ask Jesus to come into your heart and give to you that payment. But as many as received him, remember that, John 1:12, that's how you receive Jesus. You pray and you ask him to come into your heart, being sorry about the fact you're a sinner, and he'll come in right there and give to you the payment he paid on your place on that cross so you can be sure of having eternal life.
And the Bible says when you ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart, you become a new creature in God's eyes. Old things are passed away. All the sins you've ever done are washed away by God, no matter how bad your sins have been or how many. God's blood is more powerful than all that and can make you a clean creature in God's eyes. And then you just live for Jesus after that, but at least you'll be saved.
Saved means saved from hell. John fourteen, six says, Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life No man comes to the Father but by me. That means, you know, no Catholic priest can save you, no Protestant preacher can save you, your good works can't save you. It's just between you and Jesus. Do you want to go to heaven?
You've got to open up the door of your heart and pray and ask Jesus to come into your heart and save you. He's making it a free gift. Because He's God, He could force His way into your heart, but then salvation wouldn't be a free gift. It'd be something He forced on you. It means more to God that you come to Him and want to be reconciled to Him through the blood of Jesus Christ, through what His Son did for you on that cross.
That means everything to God. And so it's a free gift He's offering you right now. Revelation 3.20 says, Behold, I stand at the door and knock. That means right now Jesus Christ is standing at the door of your heart and he's knocking. But only you can open up that door and let him come in.
And if you open up that door, he'll come in and give to you that payment he paid in your place on that cross right now.
So let me, as a preacher, I'd be glad to lead you in a simple sinner's prayer, they call it Romans 10, 13. And we can pray and you ask Jesus to come into your heart and save you. And so if you want to do that, it'd be the best thing you ever did. If you put it off, it'd be the dumbest thing you ever did. Because the devil might say, well, yeah, you need Jesus, but you don't need him right now.
Just go ahead and put it off. And that's the way he gets a lot of souls into hell, making you procrastinate something you need to do right now.
So, Jesus is not going to endure your heart. What do you say? You open up that door in prayer and ask Him to come in. And once you do that, it's permanent. Nobody can take it away from you.
That's pretty. Oh dear God. I confess unto you that I have sinned in thought, word, and deed, And that you died on the cross and shed your blood to wash away my sins and save my soul from hell. Lord Jesus, right now. I ask you to come into my heart.
Forgive me of all my sins and save my soul, because I believe when you died on that cross and shed your blood for me, You paid the payment in full for my redemption, for my going to heaven. And so, right now, Lord Jesus, I receive you as my personal Savior. In Jesus' name, amen. And now folks, in 1 John 5, thirteen it says, These things that are written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, and that word believe there meant believe to the point of receiving what you just did. Why?
That you may know that you have eternal life. Not that you may wish it, wonder about it, or hope for it, but that you may know you have eternal life. That's 100% certain. How can you know? One minute, Pastor Hell.
One minute. How can you know you have eternal life right now? Because God made you that promise, and God cannot lie. And so when I was in the Marine Corps, some Baptist preacher I was brought up a Lutheran, some Baptist preacher asked me, Do you know if you go to heaven? And I say, I hope I would.
He said, You don't know? I thought the guy is crazy. How can you know now? He told me what I just told you, and he showed me where it says that in the Bible, the King James Bible, God's Word. And I right then and there, I prayed and I asked Jesus to save me, trusting him as my savior.
And I'll tell you what, the only regret I ever had was that I didn't do it long before that. But anyway, I know I'm going to heaven right now. If I had a massive heart attack right now, I'd be in heaven before my body hits the floor. And I want you to have that confidence too. Nothing's greater than knowing you're a born-again Christian.
Born-again means you were born the first time physically, the second time is a spiritual birth that takes place the moment you ask Jesus to come into your heart. That's when God's Holy Spirit comes into your soul and gives you a spiritual birth into the faith. Amen. We're out of time, so we got to say good night. Good night.
We got to say God bless. Thanks for being here. And then we have to say, as we always do at this time, and always, always, always keep fighting. The fight. Fight fight.
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