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A discussion on the relationship between Christianity and government, exploring the role of the Bible in guiding moral decisions and the importance of resisting unjust authority. The conversation touches on the concept of legitimate government, the need for discernment, and the impact of Biblical illiteracy on society.

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And bringing to light the enemies of freedom who are helped to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is what's right, what's left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders.

Good evening, and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left, the Voice. of the Christian Resistance on the sixteenth day of January. 2026. And uh tonight Well, folks, let me tell ya. The mighty Andrew He is in the studio.

There's a saying, Who can do it? and if anyone can, it's Andrew Mann, because On Friday night is when the demons come out and the and uh attack us and and they try to get into all of our equipment. But the mighty injury He's there tonight. And when Andrew shows up, the demons disappear. Hey, mighty Andrew.

Thank you, Pastor, and absolutely. You are right. You're there tonight. Already. When we have way out in the heart of Texas out there, he's the co-founder of Cops for Christ National and International.

He's my long time co host. none other than Vig John McTernan.

Well, hello, Pastor Ernie. I'm very happy to be here tonight. And may God bless all our listeners, and may we have a wonderful show in Jesus' name. Yep, later on we may get another guess. We're expecting Uh another guest.

And we'll t we'll talk about that when we get there now. We're going to start tonight. Uh And uh a very familiar passage of scripture, and but we're going there because uh it's a timely time. Romans chapter thirteen.

So are you ready to get there, big John? Yep, just give me a moment. And I'm there. How's that?

Well, okay, you did it, you're pretty good. Even with your mechanical Bible, huh? No like your Bible.

Alrighty. Uh Let me ask you this. We let's take a let's really take a close look at Romans 13, okay, because Uh The the teaching Uh to a higher level, but that's what we're here to do, aren't we?

So Let's start by asking a couple questions because you hear a lot of these. Over the years I've had Some real and I know you have hard, hard Um disagreements with These principal preachers, the apostate preachers, that have said Well, we won't I won't stand against abortion or euthanasia. I won't stand against sodomy or Or Same-sex marriage, as long as it's Legal we have to obey the government. And uh that That's a lie told by liars and that's a a cowardly, cowardly thing. But we have to take a look at tonight and see what actual government is because now today.

People Uh you know what when Biden was in office You know, we were totally against about everything he did. About everything he did was anti Christian. But we were accused of being anti-government. And our government was corrupt. I mean Probably more corrupt than it's ever been in the history.

Under Biden. With the With all of the intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA. Totally corrupted, totally corrupted. But let's take a close look at Romans thirteen, starting with verse one. First of all, Let me ask you this.

Who Did Paul write this to, this letter to, this epistle?

Well, he wrote it to believers in Rome. Right. He wrote it to believers in Rome. Those are Christians, right? To the saints in Rome.

He starts off by talking about the saints in Rome, right? Yeah.

So he wrote it to the saints, so then As we take a look at this We're going to take a look at what government is. what legitimate government is and who these higher powers are according to the saints.

So he said Uh verse one. Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers, for there is no power but of God. The powers that be ordained of God. All right.

So that word powers, what is it what do you think that means?

Well, I I I'm looking at that as uh people with authority, you know, government authority passed through. All right, so Let me ask you this. Are you an ambassador for Christ? But First Corinthians, uh chapter five. Verses 19 through 21.

Absolutely. That means you have some authority, huh? Would you do this? Turn to Romans chapter to Hebrews chapter 13. And read me verse 7.

Okay.

Okay.

Well you gotta hold on just for a moment, Pastor any 'Cause they spelt Hebrews wrong. That's crazy. Uh Hebrews thirteen. Uh no only a verse seven. Yeah.

Remember them which have rule over you. who have spoken unto you the word of God. whose fate follow considering the end of their conversation.

Okay.

Now Read me verse 17. Obey them that have the rule over you and submit yourselves.

So they watch for your souls. as they that must give account. that they may do it with joy and not with grief. But that is unprofitable For you.

Okay, so Who are those people that he's talking about that have the rule over you?

Well, that would be uh the pastor and you know leadership in the church.

So now Going back to Romans 13, Yeah. When we read this when he says Um Let every soul be subject to the higher powers, for there is no power but of God. The powers that be ordained or ordained of God.

So now If you and I let's just say that you and I We're governors. of the state, okay? As Christians We are to govern Bye. By what authority And By what powers?

Well, as Christians pastor any Um like our power here in America So the authority would come from the Constitution. And then the state, you know, depending upon what state it was, But ultimately They're under uh God's authority, Master Earth.

So What we're talking about The the higher power There's only one higher power, God. and his Gory Governor authorities as we govern If you and I uh or say governors, we are to govern in accordance with God's authority. God has given us there is there any higher authority than this King James Bible?

Well uh no well no Pennsylvania. Yeah, ultimately, ultimately. The governors here will say in America of the states, They have to do what's lined up with the Bible. Otherwise, they're like illegitimate.

So, this is being written to Christians. We're talking about legitimate government. And so what comes first to us? our positions as Christians or our positions as governors.

Well, uh ul ultimately it's uh the Bible, Pastor Enny, that uh uh uh as believers in Christ.

Okay, so So then When we're out there And When you and I w we we we used to go out and save babies. Uh yeah, a a lot of babies.

Okay.

So we were in a th in compliance With the government of God here But we were totally at odds with the governments that we were. that uh try to prosecute it.

So We used to get arrested a lot.

Okay, I used to get arrested a lot, I know. And so Uh but we were I was in compliance. With The government of God.

So which of the two governments were our legitimate government. Oh The one that's under God, and that's what's revealed in His Word, Pastor Ernie.

Okay.

Alright.

So whosoever therefore resisteth the power So we're talking about the legitimate government of God. Let me ask you this. Uh back in the days of King David and that, when they had the the kings and those Who did they go to to find out what saith the LORD God? Oh, the profits. That's right.

They went to the prophets.

Now to day As Christians, let's just say that you and I were Christians. But we were clergy, we were'd pastors. But we were Christians. And we have decisions to make. Uh who do we go to?

and ask, What saith the Lord God? Uh I would say the Bible pass here any Let's go back to over to where we were at. In Hebrews chapter thirteen, verse seven. Remember them that have the rule over you, that have spoken unto you, The word of God, whose faith follow, consider The end of their conversation That means the outcomes for an outcome. Verse seventeen Obey them that have the rule over you, submit yourselves, for they watch for your souls.

as they must give account, that they may do it with joy and not with grief. for that is unprofitable.

So you and I We are accountable directly to God, aren't we? Yes, absolutely.

Okay, so Here now. Uh God's word hasn't changed. God's authority hasn't changed at all. And so, as believers, when we hold to the Word of God, we have to hold to it exactly what it says. As in the old days, When the kings and the princes they would go to the prophets and say, What saith the Lord God?

Today Do you think that congressmen and senators Uh That are Professing Christians that are should go to or supposed to go to the pastors which to day we still have profits. But they're they're fourth tellers today. They're fourth tellers today. And so when they would come to us and I do have politicians Some call me and ask me judges. I've used to have a number of judges What has God's word to say about this?

And Today, do you think The government would be much, much better if we were to do that today, like they did in the old days. Any government the Bible says blessed is the nation whose Lord is the go is the God is the Lord. And that's where the blessings come, Pastor, Ernie. Like the way what we're experiencing now in America is because we're not lined up with God's Word. And because of that there's all sorts of uh turmoil and terrible things happening.

Uh because we're not lined up with God's Word. I mean, it actually is that simple. What you just said is. Actually, the the truth is not a It's not a very complicated thing. We have six thousand years of history to show you.

That when people were in obedience to God's word, things weren't went well. but when they were not, when they were in disobedience, Today the problem is Biblical illiteracy, isn't it? Yes. Yes. The vast majority of people out there are totally clueless to what the Word of God says, huh?

Absolutely. Yeah.

Even those that go to church that are real believers, unless they. study the word. They're ignorant, and my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. And that's what is with the Word of God. Absolutely.

You couldn't be more correct.

So let me ask you this. What percentage of what you see as assemblies or congregations out there today, are actually Christian convers congregations, and what percentage do you think are apostate? I'm not ducking the question, but I I don't know, Pastor Ernie. I I I would say it's a pretty small uh percentage. Would you say a guesstimate would be maybe ten percent?

I think it's where you are. Uh I I think it's uh very low in uh Massachusetts and New York City and other places and you know, like that, uh, Los Angeles, California. But in other places I think it's um it it's m higher much higher passenger.

So Well, I but yeah, you would Obviously there'd be, but I don't believe. Today, when it comes to actually teaching The word of God, and I mean Really? Uh teaching uh and holding to the Word of God. I would s I would say no more than about ten I would guess about ten percent of those that are actually Hold in tune the word of God. I can tell you this.

I remember a um what what do you call it, a poll, I guess it would be, a survey And they were surveying pastors.

Now Uh it boiled down to t about ten percent of the pastors. preach and hold the authority. of the King James as the word of God. About fifty percent of the people pass thirty. Uh read the King James.

So there was a huge difference. Between Um the pastor in the pulpit and the people sitting in in, you know, in the church. You know, one of the things that you don't hear too many pastors. I'm not sure if I can do it. is when you s when you go to the Word of God Uh and especially when you're preparing a sermon or whatever.

What is the first thing you should do Uh if you really want uh Discernment. Should you not pray and ask God for discernment? I mean, isn't that what He tells you? What percentage of the people do you think that actually do that? I guess it's low pastor, Ernie.

You know, I guess it's low. Yeah.

And so it probably depends upon the church. You know, the church. If the pa you know, your at your church, the people that would Fit comfortably in your church, they would do exactly what you were just saying. They would. be very comfortable and the way you were leading them and the way you were presenting the word of God and minus the authority of the Word of God and all.

So it depends. I think the people reflect The pastor p p for the most part pissed earning in the churches.

Well, yeah, I think so too. Let's go to verse three here.

Well, let's go to verse 2. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And Here And they that resist shall resist to themselves shall receive to themselves damnation.

So here now again it's taken back to The ordinance of God, the word of God, the laws of God. And whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God.

So again, he's talking about Those that resist The authorities And the first people that God has given the hi uh highest authority to is the prophet Uh And the preachers, the teach the teachers, we just see that there.

So whether you're a a Senator, a Congressman, a Governor, or a President, You you go to The man of God, and you ask him, What saith the Lord God? There that is how you're supposed to this is what Scripture's telling you. make your decision.

Now That man of God is responsible, directly responsible. to God for what he teaches the in the information so As pastors Should we be extremely extremely Extremely Uh careful on w what we preach Absolutely, Pastor Ernings. Um almost n uh not necessarily preach. But when I teach Um The Bible says, Study to show thyself approved unto God. A workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Exactly.

So we have to, that word has to be, there's no margin in there, Pastor Anne, we can't preach so.

some seminary we went to. Or our own thoughts like that, we have to preach the Word of God. as it and it rightly divided because So uh the word of God can be Part can be we'll see in the Gospel of John, that what we want to teach, and part can be in Romans. And we have to rightly divide the word of truth that it's fitting together. That's the way God put his Bible there.

that if the truth is clear, But you have to have a A submissive mind to God to see all that truth pass through.

Okay, so now let's go to verse three. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil What wilt thou then add? Be afraid of the power, do that which is good. and thou shalt have praise of the same.

So So, uh what is good? How do I define good? has to line up with the Bible, Pastor Ernie.

Okay, so God's laws, God's ordinances, God's commands, okay. All right? I'll give you an example. Does God's word say it's good to defend those that are perishing? Like the babies in the womb?

Proverbs chapter twenty four, verses ten through twelve. Exactly.

So is it is it evil to line up with God's word? Or is it the right thing? It's the right thing to line up against God's word. And it's evil there with the well, in Pennsylvania, excuse me, in Texas here, abortion's against the law. But in many other states it's not.

So it's good to defend the babies in the womb, and it's wrong n uh to go along with abortion because it's legal. Absolutely. So it's always wrong to go. That's why That's where I never believed that Jimmy Carter was saved when I I heard him say that Abortion is wrong, and according to the Bible, It's it's a sin. But My constituents voted for me Um to keep it legal and I and that's what I'll do.

In other words, he he came right out and he considered himself to be a Bible s uh s teacher And then yet he said that. In other words, he's saying, I'll obey government over God. And so He goes on to say. But and for Pastor Ernie, look how he ended up. Wow.

But he was Thoroughly disgraced. In fact, he end he ended up like in my opinion, he ended up as a communist. Anything that was against America or that, he was for. Yeah, I know. He's down in Venezuela there and And Nicaragua, he was It was wonderful.

It would go check the voting. Everything's perfect. Everything's perfect. Remember? Yeah.

Yeah.

So hi his compromising Like early on when he ran there, and what would that be? 1970. What would have been? Uh that I I I think it would be around seventy Uh seventy six there time, wouldn't it be? And it's all blurring in my mind now.

Yeah, it had to be in the seventies. Yeah.

So, like what you picked up, what he said. And if you follow him through the years, his compromise got worse and worse and worse and worse, right? Yeah.

you couldn't even recognize him as like the President of the United States. He was like a an enemy of the United States.

Well I know that, you know, he he betrayed the Shah of Iran. And he he put the Ayatollah in there. And again, a lot of his He he was an admiral in the navy. and a number of his his fellow Officers considered him a communist.

Well, that's too output dirty. It came out with the things he said about America and who he lined up with. Like I say, I remember him in Nicaragua. I remember him in. Venezuela, and I'm trying to think of what other countries And you could see the things he was saying, that he was not an American, as we know the pets.

No, he was. himself right out of being an American. Mm-hmm. I know. He was uh he was In my opinion, the worst President we had until until Barack Obama And then Biden even ended up being worse than Obama.

Of course. Um Biden actually was Joe Bama. But um We gotta s we're gonna go to a break. We'll be back right after this. Uh Well, there's people on the land.

And people on the right and there's people that's in between You better hope you're right when you leave this love. And bow before the King of Kings. Bow before the king of kings.

Some say I'm a little bit. Two. Mm-hmm. Well and sing my song. But on Judgment Day For God's throne and riddle.

Be right then. Wrong. Lord. Be right when wrong. You say no one murdered more than Hitler did.

Most people would say that's true. But over 50 million babies that were never born Right there. Disagree with you. Yeah, they might disagree with you Some say I'm a little bit too Far right when I write a And sing my song. But on judgment day before God's throne.

I'd rather be right than wrong. Lord, I'd rather be right than wrong. We gotta. Right to feel the way we feel, we got a right to make it stand. And I'm proud to say on my wedding day that my woman was not a man, a great, big, ugly man.

Some Say I'm a little bit too far right when I write and sing my songs. But on Judgment Day before God's throne, I'd rather be right than wrong. Lord, I'd rather be right than wrong. Thank God I'm saved on Judgment Day. I'd rather be right than wrong.

Would I rather be right than wrong? All right, we were back. And I'd rather be right than wrong, too. That was the My old buddy he will go home to be with the Lord, Danny Ray, very talented Danny Ray. He wrote over about three hundred songs, and him and I sang a number of songs together.

and uh Julie young Julie Dana there. And of course now that song's a bit old she's not that young any more. But um And then, of course, yours truly me. and so I'd rather be right than wrong.

Now we have with us the voice of Geoga, He's a businessman, and he's a co-host of a brand new Morning Dog Show. And that is my guest here, Jonathan Broadbent. Hey, Jonathan. Hey, Pastor, happy to be back on with you. Yeah.

Uh, listen, we got something happening on Tuesday, don't we? That uh We need I w I need the folks Here in the Geauga County area, northeast Ohio, but especially Geauga County area.

Well, tell the folks what we have to do because. This is a local activist. Uh we run to the battle hot here. We're battling continuously and we're up against the forces of darkness and the waka is one of those dark, dark forces. Tell the folks what we need to do come Tuesday.

Well, the thing to do is come into the Geaga County The Central Administration Building on Ravenwood. Look for the Administration Building on Ravenwood Drive. come to the third floor of the building at nine thirty on Tuesday. There's an important meeting taking place. I'll sort of paraphrase a little bit.

We've got the efforts of a five county wide Centralized initiative called NOACA, which stands for Northeast Ohio Area-Wide Coordinating Agency. You don't have to remember that, everybody just says NOACA. No waka. is making big moves to try to limit some of the County's voice in local government.

So we've got a, there's a group based out of Cleveland. It's called NOAACA. And they are seeking to control Lake County, Geauga County, Lorain County, Medina County, and Geauga County. All from Cleveland. And this whole initiative, it's under this banner of climate change.

They have this climate action plan. And there are some people that are fighting it. And one of our biggest fighters happens to be. a Geauga resident Who serves on the board?

Well, to make a long story short, they're trying to change the way the board is formed. and the board runs To kick him off the board, to get rid of the guy. There's one guy on the board who's asking questions, and lo and behold, they're trying to change the bylaws. to get rid of this guy. Should take place, I believe, Tuesday morning at 9:30, and a whole lot of us need to show up.

at the County Administration Building and say say no way, no way, no how. Don't do that to us. Let us keep our local voice and let's keep some people on the board. at least one who's willing to ask some questions.

Well, that okay, the location is right off Route forty four, folks, where the uh Jog County Sheriff's Department is and Jug County Hospital. It's about halfway, it's on 44, about halfway between Route 87 and Route 322. And when you pull in and you go to the back it would be on your right hand side where all the Government offices are there. And there's a big sign out there. Yeah.

So it's very important that you be there. Again, this is the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and the Title and License Bureau, all that stuff. It stands out like a sore thumb. It's the only tall building on that street. The street, again, is Ravenwood.

I would give the address, but actually, Pastor, I happen to be away from my desk where I know I have a post-it note somewhere with the address on it, but can't miss the place. It really stands out. And if you're in the Geauga area, chances are pretty good you know it anyway. It's the county administration building on Ravenwood, 9:30 Tuesday morning. And let's stop this from happening.

Right, when you when you go in uh you'll you'll walk to the left and not the right toward the office building. and you walk in and it'll show you I believe it's on is it on the third floor? It is. There's a you can't miss it. Typically there's The last several times I've gone, there's been actually a fairly good turnout.

I happened to go there a couple of uh weeks ago every Tuesday morning at 9.30 with rare exceptions. the county commissioners meet. I caught wind of the plan to do a four hundred thousand dollar office renovation for our county prosecutor, which I think is outrageous. No government official needs a four hundred thousand dollar office renovation So I went in to ask questions and encourage them not to vote in favor of this four hundred thousand dollar office renovation. But frankly, I think that their minds are all skewed.

They spent so many days and weeks and months And years. Looking at big figures and rubber stamping $10 million for this and $50 million for that, I think many of these people in in local government and all government, they lose sight of the value of money and forget that it's all coming from we the taxpayers.

Well, you know, that's what Margaret Thatcher said, you know, because that's called socialism. Uh and here You know, that's uh socialism fine until you run out of other people's money, and that's what they're doing. When you talk about Nawaka, they're a shadow government. These are unelected bureaucrats, unelected people that have snuck in They don't have any right, but they they're making claims And uh to our tax dollars. And these are not people we voted for, these are not people we elected.

And so if the average citizen pastor looked at the way they're spending money, like drunken sailors and what they're paying for, what they're spending money on, this is an organization and I think they make a good example of the Waste, fraud, and abuse of governments. They collect tax money, and their original mandate and the reason that they were formed. was a was a a federal law that required municipal zones like the Greater Cleveland area in Ohio to have an MPO. By the way, this is one of what are there, seventeen, I think, in Ohio. Um This happens to be one of the largest.

It's one of the the worst agitators and aggravators in the country They're constantly extremely far left. But they do all sorts of things. They were designed to work on roads and bridges. And regional planning. But recently, they've done things like this.

They painted a mural on the side of their building for $100,000. They they constantly working on Potted plants. and these bike paths that nobody seems to ever use, and they just throw inordinate amounts of money. And meanwhile, if you ever visit or Northeast Ohio or in the area, you'll notice that our roadbeds are in horrible condition.

So they're not spending the money on the things that they're supposed to be spending the money on, and they seem to be showering themselves with big salaries, which is indicative of a lot of government.

Well, they are, and you're right. And it's again, like you said, on the bypass when. The potholes, the roads are full of potholes, Also, again, what they are, they're like many Agenda 2030s. their their agenda, long range agenda, is to uh move people off of private property uh to take away In a private home ownership Um, you know, to the expansion of government, the expansion of your major cities. This says these people are uh again, all these little groups are But like uh Many Agenda 2030.

New Age government and but again They're using our tax dollars And what are they scamming about twenty five cents per gallon of gas? that we pay uh goes into their scheme, right? I think it's well, it's some odd number at like seventeen point eight percent or something. I forget it off the top of my head, but you're not far off. It's something in that realm at twenty cents per gallon ish.

Area. But it turns out to be a lot of money. Think about the volume of gas. that goes through this region, and they just collect all this money. Plus, they think there are some other avenues of money.

There's some federal block grant money that's given to them and stuff. There are some experts on it, like Like Skip Claypool. He's the gentleman in question who is a Geauga County resident. former county commissioner And he is now on the board. Add an a at and uh he's appointed to the board.

And filling in for one of our current county commissioners. And he is the one person consistently in there asking questions. and probing. A lot of these people, they get in these positions, and I don't know what happens to their brains. They just seem to turn off and go foggy and mushy, but they just want to rubber stamp everything.

Whatever it is, they don't ask questions.

So this one person stands out because of the way that he got onto the board. And that's Apparently, an attack vector. The board are trying to get him off by changing the bylaws and remove the guy. And we can't have it. For this board and all the boards like it, we need as many people as possible with the the compunction and the ability to scrutinize.

We need people asking questions for heaven's sakes. If we if we turn in forty to fifty people uh down there. I'm gonna try to make it myself. If th they turn in forty to fifty people Uh, do you think the board is going to get the message? And we're talking about the county commissioners, we're not.

talking about the Nowaka Board, but the Board of County Commissioners You think they're going to get the message?

Well, I hope so. And that's an important distinction. NOAACA board typically meets downtown Cleveland. The meeting that we're talking about on Tuesday morning is the County Commissioners meeting for the County Geauga County Commissioners. and they're going to vote.

It's my understanding that this vote It didn't end up taking place a few days ago, this week, because of a procedural issue, but there's supposed to vote this coming Tuesday on adopting the change that would effectively kick off this one guy. who asks a lot of questions. And I think the whole thing is Hogwash. I think the whole thing is An attack on, and you see it all over the place, you see it all the time.

Somebody shows up on a board and is willing to. push back, ask questions, challenge budgets, And those kinds of things. And if when you get crooked boards, That's the last thing they want. They don't want people asking questions. And I believe that they will go to great lengths.

to silence people. who take that approach, who are willing to ask questions. I do too. Uh That's why I want to be there. I I'd like to see him try to silence me.

But anyhow Uh what t what time is that meeting It's nine point thirty a. on Tuesday morning, this coming Tuesday. nine thirty. And if you if Fast or if I may, I will tell people in this area, you'll hear more about it In the lead up to the meeting on WINT, where we air Voice of Geaga. I am One of the hosts of Voice of Geaga.

That's regionally here. If you're in Lake. Giaga, parts of Cuyaga County and into Astrabula. You'll pick us up on 101.5 FM, that's 13.30 AM, WINT. is the station, and we are voice of Giaga.

Monday through Friday. 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.

So on Monday And on Tuesday, we will be covering in the lead up. And then on Wednesday, we'll be covering a recap. You can also stream it if you're outside of that area of Northeast Ohio at WINTRadio dot com. All righty. Also, this program that we're doing right now.

This is going to be repeated at from 3 to 5 in the morning, again at 10 o'clock in the morning, then again. uh at uh three in the afternoon so People will hear this. They'll have an opportunity to hear this, and then. Tomorrow, uh I will again uh announce it. And uh that way They can hear again hear it again on Tuesday morning.

So Very, very good.

Well, you're welcome to stay with us if you'd like to. Uh we're going to go, John and I We're going to start doing some national news. If you if you want to stay in here with us, you're welcome. If if not, I understand.

Well, I'll tell you what, Pastor, it's making that seven a.m. show Monday through Friday has me up early all week. And I'll tell you, this late on a Friday, I'm running out of steam. Normally, I'd love to stay on with you, but I don't want to run out of steam on the air. That would be embarrassing for me.

All right, very good, my friend. Listen. You have yourself a a good night and uh Let's get her done. It ain't over with till we win. All right, thanks.

Absolutely. Alrighty. God bless.

Alrighty, I'm gonna go back to Big John. and McTurn him And um Yeah, big John, I got a cool question to ask you. First of all. Tell me about Tina Peters. Do we have some good news on Tina Peters?

Tina Peters. is a Gold Star mother, a wonderful lady. She's seventy years old. and she was sentenced to how many years in prison? A lot a lot past thirty, somewhere around ten.

And And she's a a wonderful lady and for she's in prison in that corrupt, corrupt, corrupt, corrupt state. of of um Colorado That has a completely corrupt legislator, And a w and a Ungodly, wicked, evil. sinful governor But this woman she exposed the corruption in the election and uh She ended up so Going to prison. this Gold Star Mother.

So tell us Uh what the good news is, John.

Well, the good news, Pastor Ernie, is that uh her case was picked up By the Court of Appeals. And uh the the judges were astonished. at her trial. And one of the things well, there were a couple of things But her evidence was not allowed to be brought into the trial. And the appellate court judges were astonished, Master.

And bur and then when I w was following and I was reading about it, Uh the uh state of Colorado We had really no explanation why her evidence was blocked from being presented.

So it looked like uh you could see it was being she was being framed Just by the questions. that the Court of Appeals was asking past earning.

So it's tremendous. It's it's all out in the public now. what what we've been saying how she was railroaded, and it was all because She was showing how the uh The election in Colorado It was all it was irregular. And there was all sorts of uh like fraud In the election process, 'cause she was one of like commissioners there. She was over.

The election past 30 results But all these ir irregularities And so they they put her in jail because she was going to blow the whole she could blow the whole thing open, how corrupt it was. Absolutely. to give it fraudulent title. It wasn't even a trial. It was Well, it was the state the She tried President Trump said, look, uh he tried to pardon her.

But he can't pardon a state uh conviction, can he?

Well, here's this is interesting. The federal government Through Biden worked closely with the state. very closely And the last I heard was they were going to take the angle that this was a joint state-federal investigation of her because the federal agent the federal agents were working so close with the state that he could pardon her because of their involvement. No, I haven't heard anything Because he did pardon her, but then the State said no, and it sat there now. How long ago was that, Pastor Ernie?

Two months ago or something? Yeah.

Uh, I think so. It's yeah. Um, boy, I'm Things time is moving so fast. I tell you, I'm I'm having a a rough time. Pastor Earth, so much is happening so fast.

Yeah, you're not kidding. Yeah, I mean because see I n I know folks are listening to us, but you and I you know, we have access to you know, we're privy to so much stuff that's coming in. you know, they wouldn't believe how many how many how much news we're looking at and um how much you know so many sources so So to us it's like, wow, it's it's happening so quickly you can't you can't keep up with it.

Alrighty, you know what we we did? is um We started out hold on for a second. I just found it I just found it. the article about her. Oh, january fifteenth.

Colorado appellate court judges disviscerate Colorado's case against Tina Peters in appealing hearing. And that's the one that I was giving you all that information about It just it was incredible when it got out in the public here. about what they've done to that woman. They literally evidence that would uh would be in her favor, that would show She was doing things according to the law. She was within the law of what she did past thirty.

All that was blocked, all of it.

So now it's out in the open. Yeah.

And Colorado, that the judicial in Colorado is shown for how how corrupt it is, how very, very corrupt. Anyhow, You know what we did, we started out by um With a Without doing what we were supposed to do, we had prayer requests And I got sidetracked, so that's on me. Let's pray. I want to pray for A wonderful lady. and and and all you folks out there across the country I want you to Please pray with me for her.

Uh I've known I've known her for probably close to fifty years. Her and her husband her husband was Pastor Fred Hague, who was one of my associate pastors. And uh Fred died a few years ago, about four or five years ago, and But Sandy uh has recently come down uh she's in a facility for memory uh rehabilitation and Uh she had had uh a brain bleed. And now, uh I guess here yesterday that she had Uh While she was eating, she had. passed out and they found her with her face in the plate of of food and here She um She's had to have a, from what I understand, a pacemaker put in.

Setty is a wonderful good godly lady Very active pro-lifer for years she worked with me in the right to life, helping me save babies. uh she was out there she'd be out there on cold winter mornings on the streets helping me save babies.

So Let's pray for her. If you folks would join with me, I would surely appreciate it. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, Lord God, I want to hold. Sandy up at this time.

Lord, and ask, really, really ask, Lord, that you might touch her, give her a complete and total healing. Lord, we know that miracles are your specialty. You wouldn't have to. All you'd have to do this lady deserves, Lord, she deserves to be Uh to be healed. And so, Father God, again, we're just asking that you would do that and uh and restore her back we had her.

She was in church Sunday, uh Even though she's been ill and Everyone was so so glad to see her.

So we would ask, Father God, that you would touch her, and you would bless her, and you would could give her a complete and total healing. And put her back to work with us in our ministry because she's been such a. A real A real foot soldier for you, Lord. These things we ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

Uh, John? Would you do this? Would you pray for the ICE agents and their families? uh because they're they're going after these guys Left and right, they're doxing them. They're up against hardcore communists, and many of them are agents now.

Would you pray for the ICE agents and their families? Uh yeah, Pastor Annie, I want to bring you up to speed real quickly. Because since we spoke uh some things really have broken uh in the uh in the news. Biden judge blocks ICE from arresting protesters. or using crowd the dispersal tools in Minnesota.

Oh, that just came out this Um they are hamstringing some Biden ju federal judge. They're hamstringing the federal agent, so they can the the protesters can do anything the federal agents perhaps hurting them.

However it's leading to incitement because They can like spit at the agents. They can do anything they want. The judge just rule that. uh bef a little bit before the show. And then um Yeah.

Well, do you have that judge's name? Do you have that judge's name because a after the uh hour We need to pray in a precaratory prayer against Him. and uh or her or whatever. But we're it's too late for you to to go ahead for prayer now because we're we only got about a minute before the b uh the break. Oh, okay.

So we'll pick it up right after the break, Chris. Right. Meanwhile, Uh I do have thanks to Pastor Hal He got the address of the uh The county board there in Ravenwood that we were talking in Chiuga County. The county board is at one two six one one That's one two six one one, Ravenwood And ask the county board in Geauca County. And again, the address is 12611.

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