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My producer is none other than Style. Hey, Pastor, are you? I'm okay tonight because I have a special guest and she is a state representative. She's pro-life and she's a real Christian lady. Miss Jennifer Gross.
Hey, Jennifer, are you there? Are you there? Do we have Jennifer? We should have her. Hey, Jennifer.
Gee, we we did have her just a few minutes ago. If you can hear me, Jennifer. What happened to her? I'm not sure she's uh she's on the board here. Let me try something real quick.
Jennifer, can you hear us? Is she there? We go friendly there. Oh, there she is. There you are.
You were lost out there in sp in space. Can you hear me, Jennifer? Hello? Jennifer. Stock, can you get her number?
Yeah, let me try that real quick. Because Uh, yeah, well, folks will well, eventually we'll get her. These are uh you know, that here's what we know now already. The enemy does not want us to do this program. He does not want Jennifer to come on with because she has something to say that the enemy does not want people to know, folks, and uh the the powers of darkness.
So Hopefully we can reconnect and get Jennifer here. Uh I don't know what's going on. But But these things happen. with us. And as you'll notice it it happens Uh just about only with us here.
Uh you know, and and not just on this station, but on all all of those stations. Uh because of well, I guess, well, you know, I had one of the uh high up uh executives there in Salem tell me, Well, you know The reason that you have the problems you do is the content of your program. I said, Yeah, I know that.
Okay. But anyhow, Hopefully we'll reconnect with Jennifer here. And uh Get her get her up here because She has a whole lot to say. And so, meanwhile, what I'm going to be talking about tonight, I wanted to I'll remind you folks out there listening that tomorrow Uh Steve Tunder. Remember Steve Tunder?
We called him Sears. Thunder And uh Here. Ste passed away. about a week and a half ago. And here he Uh tomorrow we're going to have his memorial a graveside memorial service.
and that's going to be at eleven thirty to morrow for all his friends and family out there. And that's going to be at Resurrection Cemetery. That's at Resurrection Cemetery. sixty three o three Center Road in Valley City, Ohio. That's again the Resurrection Cemetery, sixty three oh three Center Road, Valley City.
Center Ohio.
Okay, Jennifer, are you there? I am. Oh, wow. There we go. We were just introducing you as being pro-life and being a real Christian lady in a day when.
Thank you. And and the table We when there's so many in this country are are not real Christian ladies that I was amazed, Jennifer, that um Here in uh yesterday's election in New York City, Eighty one per cent of the young women Voted communist. 81%. The men. the men voted, the young men voted uh for the uh For the Conservatives, But um they didn't The problem with it is seven million didn't vote.
But the same thing in Virginia and uh where the young men voted for the R Republicans And the same thing in New Jersey. What do you think? Wh what do you make of that? Why do you think that that what's happened to these young women? Wow.
Um there is any number of things. I think that I mean, since we're talking prolife, We know that communism, we know where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And Communism is not free. And Destroying the unborn.
before they ever get to take a breath. is not freedom. That's not godly freedom.
So it would seem that it all falls into a culture of death and restriction. Our God is a God of plenty and And it's all tied together. That would be my part of it. And then I think that women have through the years have learned Our culture has degraded the woman who chooses to stay home and raise her family and maybe home school her kids. and the most valuable, most honorable profession, of course, is Yeah.
Here's my opinion. Here's my take, because I've been around. For a few years, and uh when I went to college. About seventy percent of those dur where I went to college were males. Maybe 30% were women.
And um Here uh that has switched all the way around. Today It's just the opposite. there's far more young women going to Indoctrination centers. And they're not being educated, they're being indoctrinated. And, you know, the Bible teaches you that.
that the enemy attacks men in the area of pride, you know. from the time we're little, we're competitive. But it it it the enemy attacks women in the area of discernment, And if you go all through Scripture you see that. And this is exactly what's happened there. And every time.
in Scripture where a man listened uh to his wife instead of God, things turned out wrong. You know, it started with Adam. He he instead of listening to God, he listened to Eve.
Okay. When Abraham listened to Sarah, um, when Sampson Listen to Delilah, it always ended not well for them, okay, because. I can't wait to have a conversation with Sarah. I did graph. Yeah, she was.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That's something to look forward to, isn't it? Really? That's right. Yeah, I want to have a conversation with Adam and but and with King David.
With King David. Amen. We'll be dancing with the king.
Well, the king, and then. Little King David. Yep. Let me get into our scripture. I'm going to do this.
It's. If thou faint in the where I'm for Proverbs chapter twenty four, starting with verse ten, and these are be familiar to you, if thou feign in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain, if thou sayest, Behold, I am. We know it not. Doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it?
And he that keepeth thy soul, though he not know it, and shall he not render to every man according to his works, My son, eat thou honey, because it is good, and the honeycomb, which is sweet to taste so shall the knowledge of wisdom be into thy soul. When thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectations shall be cut off. Lay not wait, old wicked man Against the dwelling of the righteous, spoil not his resting place. For a just man falleth seven times, and rises up again but the wicked shall fall into mischief. Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine enemy be glad when he stumbleth, lest the Lord see it.
and it displease him and turn away his wrath. From week. from him. Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious of the wicked. For there shall be no reward to the evil man the candle of the wicked shall be put out.
My son, fear the Lord. and the king, and meddle not with them that are given to change. For their calamity shall rise suddenly, and who knoweth the ruin of them both? These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.
He that saith to the wicked, Thou art righteous, him shall the people curse, and nations shall abhor him. But to them that rebuke him, Shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them. Every man shall kiss the lips that give it the right answer. We start out, Jennifer, with if thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn into death.
Every single Christian every single Christian has a responsibility Yeah. to before Almighty God to do everything that they can to save the life of the innocent, to to come out against the horrible, horrible national sin of abortion or euthanasia. Uh I'll tell you. Today. And he goes on to say, If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not, He that pondereth the heart, consider it, he that keepeth thy soul.
Doth he not know it? And shall he not render to every man according to his works? You know, I remember when I was a young man, a child. And um We had it it was after World War Two Those from Europe came over, and we had a number of Germans come over, and they were working. out there for my uncle and my dad.
And, you know, I was a a a a kid, but I watched television, I watched the news, and, you know, about the Holocaust. And I remember asking them, Why did you guys uh why did you guys why why didn't you stop that? Why did you and and you know, even as a kid I understood that when when people dropped to their eye contact when they wouldn't look you in the eye, as a kid I understood that they weren't telling me the truth. And uh they said, Well, we didn't we didn't know about it. We didn't know about it um that what what Hitler was doing but I could tell th by the way that they looked away that they did.
And Here today we have so many. Yeah.
So many professing Christians that should be out there In this battle And you know what we saw yesterday? We saw, in a mighty, mighty way. The sin of omission. You know, Jesus preached more in sins of omission than he did in sins of commission. And we saw that on a huge scale yesterday.
Where Conservatives didn't come out. And they didn't come out. And so I don't understand that, Pastor. I believe that the Center for Christian Virtue mentions that. Um more than sixty percent of Ohio voters did not come out.
when issue one was not Christian vali Christian voters did not come out to vote. when issue one was on the ballot. What is that? That's ignorance and apathy. Yeah.
Yeah, and uh That's a sin of omission. The cost is so great. It's amazing to me that people don't see the value or the Moral Um the moral um Uh job. that they have to stand for the innocent unborn. It's It's It's almost a blindness.
like a spiritual blindness that You know, maybe some people say, oh, I'm not that important. My vote doesn't matter. But it's all a deception. Like they're almost deceived into thinking they don't matter and that nothing they can do. will change the outcome.
Yeah, I know and and again It's uh it's it's lukewarmness. And it it just, you know, I I I cannot I have no tolerance at all. no tolerance at all for ignorance and apathy. Um You know, and you hear people say, Well, I really don't know and I really don't care You know, that's ignorance and apathy, huh? And so And Here, you know, here's the other thing that's even worse.
was how I actually had people calling me and arguing about issue one, saying that no, it was a good thing. And I and we t we try you don't understand what that's going to do. You change the Constitution, it's going to be open season on the innocent, the unborn. And these people were were trying to tell me otherwise. And now they know the difference.
But we tried and it was just amazing.
So, and I know the first time you were here, we talked about what we could do to undo that. And uh We have we have some legislation coming up. Tell us about The legislation is coming out.
Well, we're we've had two testimonies, a bill of four ten. HB four ten. Sponsored by Adam Matthews and Gene Schmidt, is in the Medicaid Committee. We had the second hearing yesterday. And what this bill is only five lines And It follows and what it is, is the state mirrored version of what the federal government did in the Big Beautiful bill.
The federal government removed federal funds from any clinic That Does abortion? If you just want to do women's health care, meaning birth care. control, tap smears. uh sexually transmitted disease checks or something like that. Then you Yeah.
can have federal funding. But if on your list of services you offer abortions, Then the federal funds are removed.
So this bill, HB four ten. And I mean all funds.
So it's you either only do women's health care, no abortion, you get all the federal funds. If you do abortion, you lose all the federal funds. And the State Bill, HD 410, does exactly the same. It's five lines. And it says That If you and it basically says I can read it to you.
It literally says this. that section five one six two dot zero nine of the revised code be enacted to read as follows. No Medicaid funds. shall be paid to an entity that is prohibited from receiving federal funds Under section seven one one one three of Pub.law number one one nine dash twenty one. Basically then what that means is it would enact Section 5162 .09 of the revised code.
She prohibits the payment of Medicaid funds to certain abortion. provider. if they provide women's health care, That's okay. But if they include abortion on their list of Services, shall we say. Then They receive nothing.
And so. When the people that came in to testify yesterday, they were to the bell. Um They were Very upset, and they always throw it all in there. You're not providing women's health care. We believe in.
the life of the mother and we are we need to take care of women and you know, they never mention the female in the womb though. Yeah, no. And and they also really like several of the proponents Our pro-abortion people, but So they try to throw in like tap smears. But that isn't really their issue. Their issue is, they believe, a Abortion ought to be provided unfettered.
with your tax dollars. And we have an issue with that as pro life people, don't we? Yeah, we have an issue with abortion, period. but we also don't want our tax dollars paying for that.
Well, we need to stop it. It it needs to be stopped completely. You know, we for two hundred years in this country, more than two hundred years, uh, it was a crime. It was a crime. People went to prison for that.
Okay. And that's the way it should be. For uh you know for s six thousand years in in the Bible it was a crime. And so again. You know, God knows what He's doing and what He says, and it's an abomination.
In fact, He tells you. The He tells you in a couple of places in Scripture in Genesis chapter 9, verses 5 through 7, That if you abort your baby, if you kill that child, that's the image of God. that you deserve one to die, and two to burn in hell if you're unrepentant.
Now, that's what God says. And so here he also tells you that in Deuteronomy that if you. If someone is sacrificing their children, killing their children, and the people. Don't do anything to stop it. If they don't stop that man and kill that man for doing that, Then they too, them and their families, should also be killed.
So God takes it very seriously. He says if If two men or or uh get into a fight. and a woman who is pregnant uh interferes that she tries to, you know, break it up, whatever. And she it causes her to lose the fruit of her womb, in other words. If the baby comes out early If there's no mischief, meaning if the baby's alive and okay.
Uh then The husband of the woman will fine the other man, but if the baby dies, then that other man mu has to forfeit his life. And so and that's what g that's what God says. And so God knows more about this than the rest of us, doesn't he? Right. Right.
And so how do we Yeah. I was gonna say Uh Action. We're all about action here. Tell us how we got to fight this thing.
Okay, so action, you want to support the bill.
So you want to support HB four ten because it removes Medicaid, that's state funding. from being spent in facilities that do abortions.
So the first Option would be to write m myself and my committee Which is the Medicaid Committee.
So you can go to theohiohealth.gov. look up the people on the Medicaid committee and say, please vote for this bill. Mm-hmm. Then they should also simultaneously write their own representative. And say I want you to vote yes on HB 410.
Also, if you're active in any Pregnancy centers or your Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus. Uh they mm Butler County Right to Life organization. Um you should write You should get them to mobilize and for them to help some pressure on your legislator.
So you should write your legislator whom you would vote for. regardless of whether they're Democrat or Republican, you should write them. And call them, but write hiding in an email makes it a public record. And then you should also make sure that your local right to life organization that you support is also actively supporting the bill. and that they should know about it as well.
And those are two very powerful things. I know that we've been through it so the bill processes We hear the sponsor testimony. Then we hear the proponents. that are for the bill. Yesterday we heard the opponent.
I think I said that wrong earlier.
So we've had three hearings on the bill. And we're getting ready. Either we will vote it out soon, and I'm waiting for guidance on Um Whether we will get it out.
Now, the bill sponsors need to check with my committee and with. Do we call it with being the committee? For the whipping the votes to see if we have the votes to get it out of the committee. Writing the committee is a really good option because that's the first First step, then it would go to the floor, and then the House will vote on it.
Well, writing takes time. What about if we call or email? Uh we we can't. Yep, email is best. Absolutely.
So you go to the Ohio House And it'll say two is my wrap. On one of the pages, there, and you can Type in your own address and zip code, and it will tell you who your rep is, and you can send an email directly to them. All right. Please vote yes on HB four ten. Right.
I'm gonna be hitting this every day until we gotta get some people. You know, at one time, some years ago, it was another Pro-law pizza legislation, we were able to turn in 400 phone calls to the State House. And uh we're gonna try to see if we can do it again. Um either emails Phone calls. Uh what about phone calls to them?
I mean that's the easiest thing to put up. Because they can be deleted and they don't become the public record. I mean, certainly they are Somewhat effective, but emails are great. Both. I would say both.
Do both.
Alright. Hold tight, we'll be back right after this.
Well, the preacher went a hunting. It was on one Sunday morning. It was against his religion, but he carried his gun along.
Well, he shot himself a mighty fine quail and a great big measly hare. But on his way, returning home, he met a great big grizzly bear.
Well, the bear walked out in the middle of the road's morning, on a sidewalk in the city. A lost soul approached me, as the snow was getting deep. I could see the look of death. It was there in her eyes. as I begin to preach.
She begins. She said I'll admit it. I'd come to kill my baby. The whole world is telling me. that I have that right.
But deep down inside me I believe what you're preaching. Children are a gift of God with Gotta give them light So I What's my arm? And I gave her the gospel that was right there. In the darkness that she is. See you delight.
Two souls were safe. Both her and her baby. You've been called to do the Lord's heart view. That better learn to do this, right? You got to know the movement.
Not just the pleasure. Don't try to walk away from it from what you believe The keeper of your son He's got the suffering Now every creature knows your rocker is salvation I'll separate the choice from All the shooters, all men are sinners. They all believe the Savior. Take only one trust in that your soul that you'll keep. And when I finish the preacher, the woman was a believer.
The baby in her womb, I knew she would keep. And now, 25 years later, her baby is a young preacher. She's a very proud of the baby that she discovered. Decided to kick it. You got to know how Not just a feature.
Don't try your walk. The way he thinks you want to run Even you are lusty The reason why you're ain't for me He's the keeper of your soul now He's got something You got to know how to please You gotta please him Not just to please him Don't try to walk away with that. No way. To run, you better count. Control blessed.
And do it while you're able. the keeper of your soul He's got the Son. You got to know. Not just the pieces. Don't try and walk away.
He's never nowhere to run. He's never got your own love. To please him while you're able. He's the keeper of your soul. All right, we're back.
We have state representative with the Centers for Gross. And folks, we're talking about House Bill 410, the Medicaid. Of funding that would restrict all of those that kill babies. It would take away their funding, folks, and your your tax dollars wouldn't go in wouldn't be going to killing babies. And boom, you know, that song that you just heard, Jennifer, that's a true story.
That uh That happened some years ago. I was out early in the morning. It was dark out. It was in a winter time, but this time of year. And the snow was was coming down.
And I was it was still dark out in the morning. at the abortion mill. and here I looked way down the sidewalk I saw this this person coming and it was like there was a dark aura around her. and as she came up she got up closer, I was down there. And I said, You've come here to kill your baby, haven't you?
And She said yes, she said, I'll admit it and I said why are you going to kill your baby? And her answer was Because they said my baby would be born without a brain, anisephalatic, or whatever, and uh And it was roughly. Yeah, anisephalic. This was a a white lady o and a young woman. And I said, Oh, so now the father was a black man.
She says, how did you know? I said, because that's what they tell all The white women that come here who got pregnant by black men, that's a common thing they tell them. Oh, no. Yeah, and um You know, we saved a a lot of babies over the years. With the last count we had, of course, I was with Dr.
Jack Wilkie and Barb Wilkie. and Linda Ties in the very beginning when we started Ohio Right to Life, back when we made our mission s mission statement back in the early nineteen seventies and uh Since then we've We've saved in our ministry over 24,000 babies. I know it's been over well over fifty years, but anyhow it's uh Yeah, we we continue. We haven't we haven't stopped at all, but the the um that that's awesome, but the The sad part, Jennifer, is, you know, we've lost ten times that many. For everyone we save we lost ten, probably.
That's right. We had some stories out there and are some real stories. And over the years I've been there two years. to speak you know uh They're both Go to the House and to the Senate on several occasions. I haven't been there in years, though.
Thank you. And um but anyhow I imagine it's a silent holocaust, so as we remember the Holocaust of World War Two, I think of this being Another one because I think that there are so many abortions we don't We lost count. of the number of the innocent. who have been killed and And then, and you're a pastor, so I'll defer to you on this, but I guess in my own mind, I I often visualize Jesus coming back triumphant. with his army.
And in that army, I believe somehow are these children. because he brings beauty from ashes. He must. Restore that's And so I think of him his grand army, his perfect army. that these babies will be there.
with him riding as he rides in on his glorious white horse.
Well, you know, that's an interesting concept because, you know, there's Uh There is amongst many theologians um A common belief that Because Jesus was at the age of 33 when he died, that is, we and our glorified bodies will all appear at that age of 33. But again, at this. That's cool. Yeah, well that's that's what uh a lot of uh a lot of theologians who, you know, hold that. I mean, there's no It doesn't say that outright, but uh uh that would be Uh Again, one of those Just one of those things that, uh We believe that would go along with the way God does things.
He does things, He's immutable. Yeah.
And so. But you know again on this the other thing that There the the Lord says that Uh Jesus said that That the children were the most favored, the most favored before God were the children.
Okay. uh he loved those the most and that's why he said that uh you'd be better off to have a millstone which weighed four thousand pounds hung around your neck and thrown into the sea than to to harm one of those little ones, okay, one of the children. And so, but I'm going to tell you, there's a special hot place in hell for these abortionists. And these people have to understand, our sewers have run red with the blood of our innocent from coast to coast. And the Bible says that their blood cries out to Almighty God and bears witness against those that have killed them.
And yet, somehow there's a mindset, and I'm going to tell you who I think. Is going to be in the hottest place in hell, and that's the apostate preachers. These apostate preachers. out there that not only Don't preach out against the ch the killing of children. But uh that actually condone it.
Like Al Sharpton, like Al Sharpton would be. one of those who actually condones the killing of the the children and others out there.
So Anyhow. Yeah.
It's heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking. It's Just terrible.
Well, it's America's national sin. It's America's national sin. And This is where in in all these years I've fought For over fifty years, every day uh fought against that horrible sin, okay. And in fact, you know, when God gave us the divine institution of human government during the Noah Covenant. He gave you five points in that covenant.
And the third point was the most important point. The third point of that covenant was to preserve, and this is the entire, listen, this was the entire purpose of human government that God gave us. You know, He gave us the five points. The first point was, and I'll go through it very quickly, was to whom it was given. You find that to all mankind for perpetual generations, an everlasting covenant for all living things.
The second point was the intent. Man was to govern for God, simple. But the third point. Was the entire purpose of divine human government? You find that in Genesis 9, verses.
Uh five through seven. Was to preserve the image of God, that being man, the entire purpose of divine human government. And of course, the fourth point was the means, God's laws, God's statutes, God's covenants, God's commands, and so on. And then all nations that were the fifth point were. And all peoples that would be in compliance with the first four would be at peace and not at war with God.
But today, again, and again, I believe that the the hottest place is going to be for those preachers first, and then those politicians. Out there. That promotes the killing of children. And see, you know, those people you're talking about, like you said, the opponents were there yesterday. th these are evil people today.
They're You know, communism Uh teaches A hatred. hatred. We we went through that this week. uh that hatred look lunacharsky lunacharsky says What we need is hatred. We need when we hate Christians, even the best of them are our worst enemies.
We have to be taught to hate, hate, hate, hate. And here you see this. Yeah.
Well, for example, these people that are talking about like you had this guy that run that won in Virginia. That shows you the moral degeneracy, the moral degeneracy of the people in Virginia to to elect that guy. who was talking about killing his opponents and killing and they're his children. That the people in Virginia, that the moral degeneracy, and we speak about that. New York City, but here, you know, They're candidates coming out.
You have for Another example. You have this woman. Who? It's really known. There Uh Let me see.
She referred to the her state representative Um As uh Dirty, uh like a dog, like s he she said she wished he would die in the streets. like a dog And I'll go here. Uh She said. I imagine running for public office and thinking death threats via voicemail is part of a campaign strategy. I don't think she gets invited to a lot of parties.
The voicemail raises issues of potential criminal threats, harassment and civil this is her she's talking about her political opponent And uh that is Senator Sheehy. And and she says, uh, her name is McKnight. And she says she she hopes She pray hopes and prays that, uh, He gets uh That what is it, that one cancer that uh moves so fast. Patriotic cancer that She hopes that he gets patriotic cancer or dies of a vile, vicious uh death. This is these are the politicians here today.
This is terrible. The violent rhetoric is unacceptable. from someone who's supposed to be a leader. a a community leader or what that whatever that looks like, a mayor, a legislator, state office holder, a federal congress. You know, that's unacceptable.
And leaders strong leadership does not incite violence in the community from which they live. You want to hear a A r really Good one, hypocrisy. Gavin Newsome, Gavin Newsome, who may have never told the truth in his life, but Said there's nothing that he dislikes more than a politician that tells lies. Oh wow. Here's a guy and stuff.
Yeah, yeah. Unbelievable, this guy in uh They're under investigation for what they did with the They're Uh what do you call it? What they had on the ballot, the way that that was done, the DOJ just is investigating that because, of course. Those Democrats are aren't known for doing things on the up and up, are they? We need to know.
And so not all of them. And you know, it's hard because There are some very nice ones in the Ohio House, but when your party believes that killing the innocent unborn. Is accepted. as part of your party platform. they can't very well step away and say, well, I don't believe in that.
Because the party does.
Well, you know what, Peter. You know what the Apostle Peter said, we must obey God rather than man, right? Yeah.
Here There was a fellow named Pontius Pilot. And he said he he found no fault in in Jesus Christ, yet he had him crucified because he was pressured. By the Jews, even though he knew he was doing the wrong thing, he sold himself. The Bible says when you sell yourself, it's referred to. as being a whore.
you're a whore. And if if you read over and and um Hosea chapter 4 is not referring to just to women. First, it refers first to the men as being whores. and then as a punishment for the men for being whores for for selling themselves it says he will turn their wives and daughters into whores. But he won't punish their wives and daughters because the men were the horse first.
And so but that's that's what you become Um And in definition, when you when you do that, And I I would tell those Democrats, because I remember at a time it used to be because I used to be very politically active. I worked on a lot of the pro-life legislation where we had a lot of we had pro-life Democrats. We had a number. They would cross the aisle and they'd vote for us. I don't know of any.
I don't know of one pro-life Democrat today. Not one. No, me either. And here, you're either pro-life or you're low-life.
Well Yeah. Yeah, uh Yeah. I gotta check with with the style, is Pastor Hell there yet? He is not. Pastor Hal are you uh?
Pastor Howell is is um he may I bet I bet Pal Pastor Howell fell asleep tonight. No, he's Jennifer. He's he's the one that was gonna give he wanted to give the invitation tonight and so Let me see here. If he's I'm gonna Dial him up real quick to see if he fell asleep. What's he?
Yeah, how you doing? Yeah, I'm doing all right. You're supposed to be up here giving the invitation. Yeah, yeah. Uh eleven thirty five.
That's only ten forty eight. Oh, wait a minute. Did I? That's right. I mean it's Yeah, it's ten fifty right now.
Yeah, I don't get come on until eleven thirty five.
Okay, yeah, I'm looking at the wrong thing. Didn't set the clock back. I got the old clock. All right. All right.
Okay. There you go. My mistake there. But anyhow.
So Anyhow, listen, I want you to Keep in touch with me. Any kind of legislation that that needs our attention, you let me know. We get on top of it. We have another one, I can't really speak too much to it, but it's HB 72, I believe. again with Schmidt, and I don't know who the other sponsor as joint sponsor, but This will, um prevents any state spending Um for abortion.
euthanasia, and this one is challenging because it also does include the death penalty.
So even though I am for the death penalty, I will tell you that if I had the opportunity to vote to abolish abortion and euthanasia and we have about one hundred and eighteen or one hundred and nineteen people on death row in Ohio. But if I If I could save all the babies and the elderly. then I would probably Oh yeah, I've done that. Let me ease your conscience. Let me ease your conscience on that, and I can do that quite a bit because I spent 45 years.
uh ministering on death row. And Uh and in that time Uh we got seven men that I can rem know off of death row because they were innocent. They were not in their There's a lot more innocent people in this, and not just on death row, but in prisons in Ohio, than people know. Um Wow. And so there uh there's a lot of innocent people.
Uh still out there on Death Row. Pardon? that's fair then, it's a fair stance for me to have then. Yeah.
See, I got I gotta tell you this too. You see I you know God's Word, the Bible, is the only actual legitimate source. of divine government. It's the it's real government.
Now, if you are not at compliance with the word of God, You're not legitimate. You're illegitimate. You're a bastard government.
Now, I got to tell you this. You see. Our Government lost its legitimacy on the very day That They Uh first of all, on the day that they expelled God from the public school, And then when they passed Roe v. Wade, they lost legitimacy. They lost, because what that court did.
They were only supreme in the rebellion against God. What they literally did was said that we will take what God has made unlawful, and that is the. the destruction uh Of his own image to destroy his image. We will take what God has made unlawful, we will make it legal. If you purchase a license with Mammon, okay?
And that's what that court did. And Here, so when that happened, our government became illegitimate. According to God's word, they have power, but they have no authority. It's just like Okay. If I was to come up to you And say Who's the b I'm prettier than you, Jennifer?
And and you would s you would laugh. You you would laugh, you would say, What in the world? Then I pull out a forty five. and I say now tell me I'm prettier than you, Jennifer. You'd say you're beautiful.
You're beautiful, right? See, that's they've got our government's got power, but no authority. It doesn't have authority because it's lost its authority and uh And the only thing that could get it back. Yeah.
And so This is why, like I said, We worked to get the And I and I'm in I'm in favor of death row just in compliance with Gen with what we just read in Genesis nine, verses five through seven. I'm as long as it's a compliance with the word of God, but it's not. And so that's the problem we have today. There's there is a lot. Of a lot of corruption in our Department of Corrections, a tremendous amount.
I know. I I w was up there for forty five years, week in, week out, for forty five years. And so We we battled it, uh, Inside and out.
So But promise me this, I know for doing that.
Well, listen, whenever you need you know, do do you remember, did you ever meet Diane Grindell or Tim Grindel? I did, yes.
Okay. Well they were r very good friends of mine and and years ago when Diane was young and She was a State Representative. And I was telling her one day we were Uh we did what they call a celebrity ball game, baseball game, and And her and I both played in that game. I didn't feel like a celebrity, but Anyhow, I got to meet her, talk to her, 'cause her husband was a good friend of mine, Tim. And uh anyhow.
Yeah, yeah. And I was telling her about some of the things that were ha going on in the prison. And she looked at me like like, This guy's a space cadet, you know? And I knew she didn't believe me, but then one day As I was walking into the cleaners, she was coming out. She grabbed me by the arm.
She says, You know what? You were wrong what you told me about what was going on in the prison. I said, Oh, yeah? She says, Yeah, it's even worse than you said She decided to look into it and investigate it. She said, It's even worse than what you told me And I said I yeah, yeah.
And so there was there was so much they tried to kill me. on several occasions just for for what I I knew down in the prison system. And so You remember Governor Voinovich? Oh yeah. He would he ask me to For many years, to go and let him know.
He said, I'm not getting the truth. They're not telling me the truth. I want to know what's going on. And you know what's going on in that system more than anybody. And so Uh, and I would tell him, I would, you know, here's what they're actually doing and that's why they they try to kill me And so Oh.
Three weeks. Did you remember to Lucas Philwright? The Lucasville riots happened on Resurrection Sunday. It was a horrible, horrible riot that was caused on purpose. Three weeks before that riot I was on the air telling people that they were gonna burn Luke.
They were gonna burn it was b it was being caused on purpose. That whole riot was being p caused on purpose and uh Because of that, you know, I After the right I was on Resurrection Sunday.
Well, when I got to the radio station on Monday, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, All were there they all wanted to know. How did you know?
Well L let me tell you. When they put The white supremacists and black panthers in the same cage And whoever falls asleep first don't wake up. You know they're up to something, don't you? And so next. That's what was going on.
We're out of time for tonight, Jennifer. I know you're you're you're welcome to stay for the next hour, but uh you probably want to get your beauty sleeve. I have a and I've got a breakfast in the morning, so I'm going to say goodnight. But thank you so much for your time and asking me to come on again. You have an open invitation.
Anytime you need airtime, you let me know because of what you're doing. And God bless you. And I know you're. God bless you, Pastor. Thank you so much.
I know your beauty sleep has worked for you. It hasn't done me any good, but it's worked for you.
So keep in touch, shall we? All right, sir. God bless you and thank you. I will do. I'll stay on top of this.
All right. Okay, very good. She what a lady. She's a real lady. I love that.
Uh, love those pro life ladies there out there. those cr and I'm I'm so blessed to to have a wife that is one of those who has taken such good care of me during the the s situations I've had with these uh surgeries and And I'm so blessed to pastor a church filled with Pro Life Christian Real ladies Not Not the kind to go out into the woods and scream at trees or Not the kind out there that vote for Democrats for Communist. the vote for communisted. They kill innocent little children. Yeah.
And uh You know. It's repent or perish. Repent or perish.
So Anyhow, we're coming up to a break. And when we come back from the break, boy do we ha I have a whole lot of articles to discuss, so Uh And you know what I think I'll do when I come back from the break? I think I'll open the phone lines at 888. six seven seven nine six seven three and take calls in between the articles because people complain that they don't get enough enough time to call in.
So, again, the number is eight eight eight. Six seven seven Nine, six, seven, three. Right now, Stiles' about to go into account. You ought to hear him. He does it so well.
He knows those numbers. Nine. Eight, seven. Seven. Sixth.
Five. Six, seven, eight. Two, one, nine, ten. Ten. Fight the fight in his faith.
Fight the light of the Lamb. Let's come on tonight. Thank you for listening to What's Right, What's Left, the voice of the Christian Resistance. To support this ministry, head to wrwl.org. That's wrwl.org.
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