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So come on out and stand with us for life and Later on in the program, we open the phone lines. If you want to announce your life change, feel free to do that. Give us a call. No. Uh, you know, John, you and I we know a little bit about guns.

We've we've used firearms our whole life and, um, But um when it comes to ballistics I'm you know Kind of illiterate there. compared to Um and Sam Andrews.

So now he is going to Uh, kinda tell us what w we kinda suspected. Here about why What we've been hearing about the situation wi with Charlie Kirk's murder Why is it not what we've been hearing? I I knew something was wrong right from the beginning. And remember how many times we've talked about The stay behinds they're not just in the FBI but the CIA. Obama's stay behind those that have stayed behind to continue to try to disrupt the government.

And I'm not I'm not, um By any means Saying the cash patel or in any way incompetent, but uh They really put them in a bad spot. But anyhow, Go ahead, uh Derricken and Taker Away. You better pray you've got a round that won't overpenetrate. And you better pray you get the shot off in time. And if you have those three things, you can neutralize the threat and have no collateral damage.

And of course, that's always been the goal. for our countersniper protection detail teams. That's always been the goal. for anyone involved in counterterrorism work or hostage rescue.

Okay. And we do a lot more of that than we tell people about. But again, the difference here, folks, I just want to drive this home. The difference here. Is that Sam has that certification as an expert?

The designation, certification, as I do, not on a federal, but a state level. Uh so you're That's the difference in this analysis.

Okay, so I just want to drive that point home that you can. Is it necessary to have those certifications? Uh well, y you know, it it Yeah, I think it sure helps.

So, okay.

So, so let's talk about the fundamental issue with Charlie Kirk and the narrative that's out there put out by the FBI.

Okay. And the reason I know what I'm about to tell you is because. I spent over 16 years of my life working on the engineering of how to prevent an exit wound on a human. No, we had to go to completely different bullet technology. Not even comparable to a lead bullet with a copper jacket, which is what is almost always shot through a 30-odd six.

Barnes makes some solid copper bullets. They penetrate even worse than lead bullets do.

So L let's let's talk about Real quickly.

Some of the ranges of influence. What are the slices of the pie? If you're trying to create a situation where a bullet enters a human and it doesn't exit, What are the things we can influence?

So if we're talking lead bullets with a copper jacket, we can make the copper jacket thinner. Copper jacket may be on a 30 odd six, maybe 18 thousandths wall thickness.

So, you take the 308 diameter of the bullet, you subtract 0.018 times 2, and now you have the diameter of the lead core that goes inside.

Now we can change the amount of antimony that we alloy with the lead.

So if you have 1% antimony, you have a very soft lead core, it's more likely to break up, less likely to overpenetrate. You put 3% antimony in it, and it gets much harder and will travel much farther through ballistic gelatin.

Okay. Now you can increase the twist rate. The higher the RPM of the barrel that the barrel creates when it spins the bullet. The more likely the bullet is to frange and not overpenetrate.

Okay, so these are some of the things. You can change the design of the tip. You can change the shape of the core and create a tip that's a wedge and causes the bullet to mushroom faster and split. You can change the impact velocity. You can hit bone going in.

These are the things that cause more rapid expansion, make it less likely to overpenetrate. These are just a few of the things. Higher the impact velocity, the higher the RPM, the less likely you get overpenetration. the lower the impact velocity. The less RPM.

And the more likely you are to penetrate farther and have overpenetration. How is this applicable?

So let's talk about the 30 odd six. All right.

So, I've just given you like eight things that have some range of influence on whether the bullet overpenetrates or not. And Let's talk about the the range.

Okay, we create something to do tests before we go to live tissue tests. We create this thing called calibrated ballistic gelatin. We mix this powder with distilled water. And we get it to a certain temperature for a certain amount of time. We keep it at a certain temperature.

Then we shoot it with a 0.177 BB at exactly 400 feet per second. We chrono the BB as it goes into the gelatin. The chronograph is right next to the gelatin, so we get a very accurate impact velocity. And then we have a certain range that the BB has to penetrate. If it's too short, The ballistic gelatin is no good.

If it's too long, penetrates too far, it's too soft, it's no good. It has to be right in the range. exactly in the range. to be calibrated ballistic gelatin.

Okay. Now, when we shoot a 30 odd six, We have a range. The most frangible bullet would be a 110 V Max, made by Hornity. And Very The harder bullets that have the longest penetration in ballistic gelatin would either be a penetrator round, an AP round. Or a, as we step down the scale, a full metal jacket.

Step down the scale, Nozler makes a heavy penetrating bullet with an H jacked frame. It has a unique marketing name. And we get into round-nose bullets that have soft lead noses and soft cores. And that's closer to the VMAX. But here's what you need to understand.

When you shoot calibrated ballistic gelatin, With a 30 ought six, with the shortest penetrating round, a 110 VMAX, where the RPM is almost 300,000 RPM. And the impact velocity is 2700, 2800, maybe 3,000 feet a second, depending on your barrel length and the powder loading. The bullets still penetrates 15 inches. in ballistic gelatin. You shoot a man in the chest with that bullet, and you blow a hole out the back side of him, three vertebrae tall.

and the size of a volleyball.

Okay, so if you hit a guy in the neck.

Okay. From the angle that they claim the rooftop shooter was at. It doesn't even hit the spine. It comes right through four inches of muscle. Leaves a very small hole because it hasn't had time to open up or break up.

And A 30 out of 6 bullet, 150 grain soft point, will go through three human necks the size of Charlie Kirk's and still. Overpenetrate the third neck. The range of normal ammunition for the thirty odd six Penetration and calibrated gelatin varies between 18 to 19 inches. and 29 to 35 inches. Depending on the barrel twist rate, the length of the barrel, the impact velocity, but that's the range.

19 18 to 19 is the shortest amount of penetration. she could possibly get on muscle tissue. with a 30 odd six.

Now, because the guy was inside 200 yards, clearly the impact velocity is going to be quite high. Bullets typically degrade less than 150 feet per second per 100 yards.

So, if that bullet started at 2,900 feet per second, it hit him at well over 2,600 feet per second. I agree.

So the idea that the FBI's narrative And there's some smart people. I just want to say there's some smart people. There's some pathologists, there's some Green Berets, there's some Navy SEALs, and they're all talking about this. None of them are ballistic experts. I heard a Green Beret, I think he's on Valhalla something.

is the name of his channel on YouTube. And I listened to him. He did like a three-hour program yesterday. And I listen to most of it. And those guys are so far off base.

The Green Beret has a pretty good understanding of explosives. He has a really basic rudimentary Almost first grade kindergarten level of external and terminal ballistics. And I Obviously, they're challenged by some of the math. And that again, folks, this is why I say Yeah. Stay in your lane.

Yeah, it really helps to stay in your lane, even if you're a Navy SEAL or a Green Beret. Because you're not an expert in in external or terminal ballistics. Yeah.

So you saw this pathologist put out something with some diagrams with a protractor on it, and I gave that to Eric. Early this afternoon, hoping he might be able to post that so we could talk about it. All right.

Well, he he superimposes this Protractor on the overhead scene of the college campus where Kirk was assassinated. And he claims that the shooter is nine to ten degrees off. Straight on.

So, based on where the hole is in the neck, he shows the line. And I think Eric's got this up now. Yes. See what I'm talking about. And he makes the claim that.

Even at 10 degrees, they barely even nick bone.

So we're going through arteries, jugular veins, and neck muscle. Which has no prayer of stop in a 30-odd six, none. Even if it hits the neck bone, it's going to blow the vertebrae out the back side of the guy's neck. and leave a massive hole. And a lot of that hole is made from the bone fragments being accelerated over 2,000 feet a second as they blow out the backside of a neck.

Ask me how I know. All right.

Before you move on, one question.

Well, I want to hit this angle.

Well, go ahead. Go ahead. Continue then.

Alrighty, w we're back. Um There you go. Here you just listen some an expert in ballistics, uh John What do you think? What is going on? I I you know, we're not getting the truth and I you know, I don't think um You know, I I don't think Cash Patel I think Cash Patel and and uh Bangeno and his others got caught.

They got They got caught Buy the stay behinds, the lift those that are still there, Obama's people. What do you think?

Well, Pastor Ernie, um To start off with You know, I I I I know something about ballistics. and once I heard that this alleged assassin Gunn was a thirty zero six. Uh, that well, that's a military weapon in World War One and World War Two and even up into Korea, that was the standard uh military ballistic uh Oh, buttons. And it's inconceivable to me that that bullet hit him in the neck and didn't have an ex exit. It's it's just not you can't do it.

That's not true. I've I've had those weapons, I've shot those weapons that you're talking about. And believe me, You do not take one of those apart and p in in thir twenty seconds or thirty seconds You don't You know, you don't Shoot somebody and then take one of those things apart that quick. It doesn't happen that way. Uh, that takes some time to do that, and so You know, that that's another way to go from it, yes.

Yeah, so I mean, where is the exit womb? Pastor earning. But we the web the bullet that hit Um Charlie Kirk. Where is the exit loop? That bullet should have gone right through him.

And into back behind. uh the the the uh tenth you sent into a car Or someone standing back there. Let's ask Wendy. She's a medical expert. Hey, Wendy.

Where is that excellent?

Well, I appreciate the question. I'm not a medical expert in ballistics. I d I don't know. I mean, it sounds like from what we were just listening to they could craft weaponry uh to be slower, faster, bigger, smaller. I mean, I don't know.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's been that's been a science for years with assassins. Uh The military with snipers, yeah. I know, I know there was there was some video. Where they were speculating, it was a palm, a revolver, and it was somebody standing right in front of him, right behind the railing, where all the people were. I don't know.

I mean, it's just it's just creepy.

Some people think, I mean, some people think Kurt. Still alive, and this is all just you know, sh you know, fog and mirrors. I don't know. I have no idea. Go ahead, John.

Yeah, Pastor Ernie, uh That guy kind of really laid it out. With that expert, Sam. Sam Andrews, yeah. when the person gets hit in the neck, Uh it weakens all those muscles. And the head tips over to where the direction of the bullet.

So if you look at the way Probably perk. is immediately his head went to the left and his head bent down to the left, and then he fell over off the chair down to the left.

So that meant that the Bullet. was to the right of all the people standing in front of him. And the shooter, they said, was on the other side. Shudu. Was it on Um Kirk's right uh left side, he was on his right side.

which is the exact opposite of the way his head went.

So I I I and plus where is the exit wound? Uh for that 3006. Does it? 3006 is Connected, that's far at best. Certainly it could not have.

So this is not adding up already. And the FBI is going down this trail. with the guy with the thirty zero six rifle. Um, in fact it's a Mauser. It's a it's a World War it's actually a World War One rifle, Pesterni.

Did you know that? Yeah.

Yeah.

And lo and behold, no uh serial numbers on it.

So n right from the start now, I don't buy in One second.

So that, um Uh that explanation that the FBI is giving that this is they've got the shooter. I don't I don't believe it, Pastor. Then the other thing is where w what do we know of the attempted assassination of uh President Trump. the ballistics on it. They could the the crime scene was like cleaned up within hours.

All the blood and all that was The FBI wiped out the crime scene. We know nothing about the shooter. What do we know about him, Pitt Bernard? Trump himself said that he believed the FBI was involved. And obviously And ha have you ever seen, ever, The secret service to such a sloppy job No, that was that was no coincidence that You know, I'm convinced they were in on her too.

Yeah.

Right. Right. Oh, Just said, do you think this is a conspiracy? From within a turning point, do you think?

Well, there's a lot of people that are holding that. If you look at it very carefully, The guy that was his sec head of his security that was standing behind him Those glasses that they wear, you know, the glasses they have cameras on them. and you you can touch touch it and hit a button on the side of the glasses and it'll take a picture but if you hold em down it actually starts filming. And here you have somebody that was filming him or t taking pictures of him And it shows that this fellow Just prior just before Charlie gets shot He touches his glasses and he holds them.

So Yeah. And so Yeah, but that's one of the theories that they were involved. There's all kinds of, I mean, you name it, there's all kinds of theories out there. There's some woman out there that's texted me all kinds of things already. But she's texting me and then you got Candace Owens who is saying That Charlie's wife was in on it.

She's out there saying that Charlie's wife was in on it. They're also saying now that Netanyahu Had come out and made a couple remarks in a prior. Uh about how You know, some of the ways that some people could be assassinated, okay. And that the Mossad was involved.

So, you know, th you you're always gonna have all of this and you gotta kinda You you kind of look for the truth amongst all of of the propaganda out there. Pastor Ernie, me and you are the old timers. And we both went through the Kennedy assassination, right? I remember as clear as the day. Yeah, so do I.

We went through the Robert Kennedy assassination, right? Right, yep. Mart Martin Luther King. Yeah.

And even look going back to Waco, you remember Waco? Oh, yeah, very good. Yeah, we actually had people at Waco. Up on the grassy, no, we had people there filming that, and they got they were. uh arrested two two of our pastors were there.

Filming the whole thing. Yeah.

Pastor Ernie, when I worked as a federal agent, I did not work for uh Secret Service But my job description allowed them to use me in it like In a manpower situation.

So I did work. Secret Service details No. And there's no way They're absolutely the Secret Service must have broken every rule. And with the Kennedy assassination, So if you know the secret service um protocols and all, They They s like l they couldn't be that bad. They set him up.

They set him up, Pastor Ernie. Not one Secret Service agent was fired. The the uh s the head of the Secret Service was not fired. No one was held guilty or ac accountable. and the Secret Service for what they did with President Kennedy.

So the people out here don't realize what the Secret Service did to set him up like a pigeon. And they made sure that those files were kept sealed until all those people at that time that were involved had passed away and died. And um Yeah, you know.

Well, the big one with Is where after the autopsy, Pastor Ernie, where was his brain? Good question, huh? It disappeared. The F it was an FBI investigation. That's evidence that tells you the direction of the bullet and all.

So h h his brain is gone. It's missing. And there's never a clamor for it. You don't you never hear the FBI clamoring.

Well, you know, where is John uh President Kennedy's brain and And Congress know it. It's like it it's like it just disappeared. Oh, well, it's that's evidence, Minister Hurdy.

Well, the Trump shooting there in Pennsylvania, you talk about. That was just more than just sloppy work by the the Secret Service. I mean, you never saw look They used no drones. They had no communication. with the locals.

Excuse me, I it's haven't caught my throat. Uh no drones, no communications. Excuse me, we're the locals. Uh here When you when you had these they put these two little short women Around him One of whom Could couldn't get her gun back in her holster. She was shaking so bad.

Uh you know, the idea was, you know, that you protect the man's head, right? and, you know, they came up a foot shorter than him. Everything about that whole thing Was It was just too much And and the person that they had in charge Of the Secret Service that woman appointed by Obama was a very good friend of Hillary Clinton's. Very good friend of Hillary Clinton's.

So what does that tell you? Oh, by the way. At that same time they pulled the regular agents, the normal agents that would have been assigned to Trump. a a former president They pulled him off and uh they sent him over to to watch to be with Do Doctor Jill. Everything that was done, I mean, that was obviously a real deep.

investigation should have brought a lot out on that.

Well, I know that they fired a bunch of people. But that was just more than a competence. It was so there. that citizens standing there by that building. They were hollering to the police There's a man on the roof with a gun.

The citizens saw it. Oh yeah. The most vulnerable spot. It was assassinate the President. There was no Police coverage or assistance.

North Secret Service cosmic. They left it open, and the citizens could see him up there with the guns hollering to the police. And then when the one cop actually climbed up, he poked his head above the roof and You saw the shooter. He f he fell down. Right away.

Secret Service had it was cut. Yeah.

Some nonsense they're giving.

So, anyways, Pastor Ernie, I got the same feeling for this one now. Yeah, me too. right away ballistics, that alone tells you The the what they're the the narrative they're giving can't be best, Ernie. It can't be. And if that's the case Then the FBI's in on it.

That's what I believe. I believe that it and uh And I think that's why Bongeno was so angry to begin with. Um and in fact Patel didn't even know that His Uh His pilot that was, you know, that would fly his private plane. Uh he was involved. He was one of the dirty thirty.

FBI agents that was involved in the raid in Mar a Lago. And and Patel didn't even know about that. He didn't even know re realize it. Ernie, a case of this magnitude where a political the the world's looking at him, you know, he's a religious figure in there, but but they look at him as political because he was able to raised so many votes, uh y young people passed for uh for uh President Trump.

So But tell didn't hear. He couldn't get in touch. With the agent in charge of the Utah office, Who was over this investigation for 10 hours past the earning? 10 hours. And but was furious.

For ten hours he had no idea what was going on. Him and Bongino flew out to Utah. They got a hold of this agent in charge of the. uh spelled salt lake office And he said, oh well, I was getting things together because I didn't want to give you any misinformation. Pastor any sw this is rotten.

This is they They were using that time to set the narrative up, to put things together. This this is bad, Pastor A. And this is a brother in the Lord. And God's going to use this What what Satan meant for evil, God meant for good, Pastor. He's already using it.

Look what's. Look as a result. Yeah.

Yes. But we need justice. We need justice for Brother Charlie, Pastor Ernie. No, no more of this government lies and nonsense and Secret Service not I mean, with Trump, that was a setup. No agency would be that incompetent.

Bike bad. That's why we have to, you know, first of all, this guy is absolutely right. You and I have been talking about this. For years, that the George Soros' goal is Civil War, Hillary's goal. What did Hillary just do?

She just came out and said The cause of all the world's troubles, the cause of all the world's troubles, are white Christian men. White Christian men are the are the par are the world's the problems. They are the ones that need to be gotten rid of. Hillary just came out.

Now that's pardon? He literally. You said that there, Serenity. Literally. If you said that, justify.

A day or two ago. Uh it was no, actually, let's see, it was earlier in the week. But yeah, I Uh well, maybe they reported it late. Yeah it it She it just came out, Pister and I'm telling you, she just. Yeah, I know, it just came out, but but that was Round about Monday is when she said it.

I w I heard her. When she came out when she first came out with it Um, you know, she she had one of her little conferences and Uh you know, again, so ye you're right, they're trying to promote Uh a civil war. But you and I have been saying that. We've been saying that for a long time.

So Wendy, give yourself one fast one fast quick. Commercial spot because you deserve it, and we're gonna we're gonna open the phone lines right after this break. But go ahead, quick, Wendy.

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Alrighty. It works on you. God bless you, and thanks for being here. Love you too very much. All righty, uh, we're gonna go to a break and then when we come back look we're gonna take some phone calls at eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three.

Eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three. Be right back after this. It feels so fine, this new age, church. of mind. The service is laid back.

But still, I know you reflect sold, and I can't stop thinking. About all of that.

Well, I remember when God was praised. But that's not what the New Age church is for. The truth is fine, but it's long gone. The gospel's truth. But it ain't wanted anymore.

I am, he said. You had better care. There is a Judgment for all. You will be there. I am he died.

And he is risen on high. And if you're lost. Then you have it. Better know why. Believe him.

Holy still. Did you ever read about a child who seemed to be a king? And he became one.

Well, he's coming back to judge the world, and he and the father are still. The very same one. But I've had a fearfulness deep inside. And I've cried because I'm so afraid to know. And I'm not a man.

to be scared so I go to heaven or as I feared. Below I am, he said. You had better care. Is it A judgment were all. You will be there.

I am, he died. He is risen on high. If you're lost, then you get better. No one. I am, he said.

You had better care. There is a judgment for all. You will tease the I am He died. All right, we're back, and we're going to go out to New York. And it's Carol in New York.

You're in the air. Yes, if if Hillary made that statement about white Christian men. Um Then what does that mean is Does that mean I mean, like, why do a a lot of Christians support Israel? Does it mean that the Christian men, they're really like Zionist. Uh Yeah, basically what she she's trying to do with the idea today was Um with all the immigrants and they've been pushing saying that, uh, these Then laws on immigration are s are aimed at Hispanics now, even though They brought in people from every country in the world, illegals, out there.

Uh it's just to start a war, you know, between And you know, um, between white men who basically um you know, who are in in power, you know, uh and the rest of the country.

So you're saying that white Christian men are in more power than Any other like groups of men like Jewish men. No, I'm not saying that. And I think Jewish men are considered I think with Hillary that they consider that anyone who is Uh Well, we're w where like would they consider us what would you would you call us, John, um White nationalists. Is distillery Jewish? Yeah.

Yep. But cheese. She's one of the those that the Lord Jesus spoke about those Jews that say they are Jews, but they're not. They're of the synagogue of Satan. You can read about Hilary in Romans chapter nine you can read about Hilary.

And um she's a double. She's a devil worshiping. Yeah, she is. She's an actual Hillary is an actual witch. Her witch name is Drusilla.

She heads up a Yeah. She identified white Christian men. are causing such damage to the United States.

So It wasn't just white men, it was white Christian men. Yeah, I know. Right, right. thing on. That's who they're focusing on.

to want to start a civil war. is against white Christianness. He should have included the Jewish Zionists too. No. No, and I say a lot of people don't understand what that word Zionist means, okay.

But, um, you know, you you've heard that thrown around and somewhere th they're using the Zionist to to To apply to people like George Soros, which he would not be. He would be of the synagogue of Satan. Right. Oh yeah. So Soros hates Israel.

Right. you know, so S sorrows hates God.

So, what's the definition of a Zionist? Uh the Zion believes that the uh the land of Israel Was given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their seven descendants by covenant. But God is a covenant and they back in the land And we're heading towards the second coming of Jesus Christ. 'Cause the Jews are back in the land. is coming to Jerusalem.

When the Lord returns, he is coming to Jerusalem. But I read somewhere online that they're saying in Israel. the uh the Israel people are not allowed to To trace their genealogy to do their DNA genetics. Why is that? Because the government knows that.

th those people there right now are not the descendants Of the original Jews? No, they've been the the Jews have been tracing their genealogy the best they can for years. That's a bunch of That's uh that's Malargu. Yeah, that you haven't been told the truth.

So the Israeli government allows the people to trace their genealogy, their DNA. Yeah, sure, absolutely. There's all sorts of scientific studies on their DNA. Because they're a they're spread out all over the world and they're like a tight group. And the the people that studied DNA have They've studied the Jews.

for years and years and years. I think The people that DNA is known the most are the Jews. Right. But I have to move on because uh we were running out of time. But but thanks for calling.

Let's go back to Queens. And we have Bob. Hey, Bob. Hello, mis uh, past Ernie. How are you?

I'm okay, Bob. How are you? Good, thanks. I I w have Something uh a a a comment about regard to the tragic uh assassination of charlie kirk and here's something that i find kind of strange. Uh right after he was assassinated.

all these different companies came out with We're coming out with t-shirts, flags, things like that. I bought some. And I found it interesting. strange that Uh with with And like I bought from one company called Patriot Depot. It's like they had the stuff Like already made like I thought I I ordered this stuff product and that it would take so time you know you would order them and it would take Maybe maybe a month or so before you got them.

I got all these things with within two weeks of Charlie Kirk's uh uh death. I find it very strange. Like it's It's like and then and I'll tell you something, I'll be honest with you. I Uh I'm one of those people that wondered like maybe maybe he's really still alive, maybe this was all just staged, you know. call me paranoid, but But I wonder, you know, and I'm hearing a lot of different things.

true about His wife that that she's just putting on an act and this and that and all these other strange things and I don't know. It stated nothing.

Some all this is not really adding up like you were talking about on your show tonight. Yeah.

No, it doesn't. But remember, they said the very same thing about Elvis. Elvis, we really wasn't dead. People saw him working at this Yeah. And yeah.

And even JFK, they said the same thing even about JFK, but uh Yeah. I I you know wow. Wow. Yeah, so. Yeah, I wouldn't put any credence to to any of that.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But it just seems but it just seems strange though that I mean, I know that they can get things, you know made quickly these days, but that's that was awfully quick. you know, like I bought like T shirts and Hats, you know, a couple hats and a couple of flags. And I'm thinking, oh, I'm probably going to have to wait at least maybe a month, you know. Yeah.

Uh and like bang I got the stuff delivered within within a like a few days. I don't think that's kind of Strange. You know it's that quickly.

Well, you know, uh that's one thing about uh Bane. an entrepreneur. Uh, when it comes to things like that, they can they can set up very fast if the the money's there and they they say to to run with it while it's hot. Oh. I don't really I'm not really surprised about that, are you, John?

A little, Pastor Ernie, did you see what happened with Amazon? Oh, you heard about the book came out on September 9th, yeah. Yeah.

The book came out on September 9th. about Charlie Kirk's assassination. It was a day assassination. The LA Times? Yeah, they were talking about uh Charlie Kirk being assassinated in Utah.

Uh, like a week ahead of time. What about the song? The song came out. I thought there was a song but I didn't hear it. Yeah, there was a song came out today on the ninth, the that uh the day before about his assassination, yeah.

Really? I didn't know that. Wow. Wow. So it's really It's really strange.

all all that's going on. You know, we're living in very Interesting times. We have to we have to pray.

Well, you're not kidding about that. remember what they did to Charlie Kirk is exactly what they want to do to all of us. I mean, they hate us. They loathe us. Yeah, oh and there's one more thing, you know, uh Tonight on the show there were y you had that clip of About the idea of a possible civil war.

You know, almost 30 years ago, a man by the name of Thomas Chittam. wrote a book called Civil War II. the coming breakup of America. And I read it just like last year. Here.

And I'm telling you this Tell me. Like some of the signs to look for. are c have come true or are coming true. Yeah.

It's Well, John and I have been telling you for the last several years that that's what they're pushing. They're pushing for civil war. Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. When Obama, in fact, we were telling you when Obama was in office. We were pointing out for t for eight years.

You see what he's doing and here's his goal. His goal was to start a civil war. Wow, I thought I didn't know. I didn't know that. Oh, the the yeah, the one thing that really tipped it off I mean, I was shocked when I heard it, Pastor and I He talked about building what an internal army in the United States as powerful as the The Arm Federal Army.

Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, yeah. He's civilian army. A civilian army. I have to move on.

We're going to take one fast call. It's Katie in San Diego. You're the last call, Katie. You're the last call. Go ahead.

Hi, Pastor Ernie. Thank you so much for taking me. And this was a very interesting show and I'm I as they all are, but this one Especially I think Charlie being such a strong Christian is very dear to everybody's heart. Uh I've been grieving as if I I knew him. and I I only did from turning point, you know.

I knew, and I'm a housewife. I don't have any qualifications of ballistics, this and that. That when I heard about that that day, I knew it. It had to be a professional. Who could hit you in the neck?

Anybody would aim for the chest or the head 'cause it's a bigger target. And this clean shot, he didn't have any kind of Kevlar vest on or anything or a helmet. And they managed to get him in the neck. That was that was professional. That was a message to silence you.

And I found out right away I kind of, I just have good common sense. There were no paramedics. When I heard this story, well, Charlie's so big, we had to get him in the SUV. Where are you at, Petticoat Junction? Every single town across the United States has to have a paramedic.

And fire department, would that have saved Charlie with that shot? No. But everybody has it, even for honky-donkey parade down Oceanosha Street. And here he had over 1,100 people and there were no firemen. Nobody's getting fired.

That stupid president of that college isn't fired. The governor's not in trouble. Nobody's calling anybody out. And I don't believe any of the crazy rhetoric that Candace and Tucker I they smell like they've been paid off by Yeah. But I and I don't think Net Yahoo.

did that. I mean, that's what I think. I I can't say. But it makes it it makes a lot of sense with this weird, creepy who really killed him or murdered him. is because she got a hold of a video.

I watched it. And it was right after all the chaos. Everybody went scattering because they didn't know if more bullets were coming.

So it turned into an immediate. Circus.

Well, there were police walking right past. Nobody put tape up. And there was somebody in a turning point outfit. shirt and pants. A white man, late 40s, normal dad haircut, party down the side.

short hair, no beard. And he, somebody was videotaping this. And he went and took Charlie's chair. and climbed up to that little canopy, you know, that was his little, where he spoke over, and took the camera down. It was a two-way two-camera hanging on on a scaffolding.

And he took, and he was real shifty looking left and right. Uh he didn't see who was videotaping him and he took the SIM card out and then he walked back over and Put that camera up. And no one but this videotape person that sent it to Canvas Notice that. And he had attorney. That's tampering with a crime scene.

Right. Yeah.

Right. So none of it. No no police. There should have been a police off or two stationed right there immediately. Lucy, you you touched something you touched something That's absolutely 100%.

I noticed that No ambulance was there. A at a high school football game, They'll have an ambulance there. And at an event like this, they didn't have any. medical people there, and no one is questioning it. No one has raised a question about this.

Well, I think. Yeah, actually, they're all. I mean, there's. All kinds of questions being raised on every media front round, even Even some of those on the left Course those on the left are saying that the megas it was MAGA that took him out in the But uh Yeah, so But we're out of time. But listen, thanks for calling, Katie.

And John, you know what you gotta do. I know what I got to do, Pastor Ernie, and I'm going to do it. Already. All right.

I want to talk uh tonight. About um Christ coming for us. Because we should always live with that, the blessed hope, Pastor Ernie, and that's Jesus Christ coming for the believers. Amen. Amen.

So Titus 2.13 says, looking for that blessed hope. and glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ. Just before the Lord went to Calvary. At the Last Supper he was talking to the disciples, And he told them that I go to prepare a place for you, and I will come back. And that coming back for is coming back for the believers.

And we call it the blessed hope. We also call it the rapture. And the Bible tells us that when Christ comes, For the believers now, not when he's coming to Israel at the end of the tribulation period, to Jerusalem. It says he he's going to meet us in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord. He's gonna take us to heaven.

And what uh what happens is those that are dead that have died When Christ returns, they're resurrected. They get a resurrected body. The believers that are alive like right now we're alive and if christ was to come our body is transformed. It's not resurrected, it's transformed.

So we have a body. of flesh and blood. And then the the Bible says in a nanosecond well, it doesn't say a nanosecond. It it calls it a twinkling of an eye, Pastor Ernie. And in the twinkling of an eye, which I call a nanosecond, We will help.

Body like his.

So, one, we're here. like right now and then instantly We have a a glorified body that's not not subject to death. It's like Jesus Christ. And then he takes us to heaven. And when we go to heaven, I believe.

that we go to the New Jerusalem that it's it's prepared for us. and we have the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, And where We're considered the Right. And Christ con is considered the groom. and that we will And there's a little detour. We return with Christ.

at the Battle of Armageddon. in that, but there's a little detour there, but we spend eternity In heaven with him. That's our future. Folks. We have a place, he's prepared a place for us in the New Jerusalem.

We have we're there forever and ever and ever, and who knows? what God has uh in store for us. Uh there's a there's not that much Other than it's marvelous. It's marvelous. But there's a problem to follow for people to follow what I just said.

And the problem is called sin. The Bible the wages of sin is death. But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So we cannot go to heaven like I just described. with the penalty of sin on us. because sin separates us from God. And what the Bible says is death, and that death is in a place called the lake of fire.

So to to obtain Eternal life. then he God provided Jesus Christ. that he was the sinless Holy Only begotten Son of God. And he could save us Because he was without sin. Anyone.

And everybody born of Adam, that's everybody. has committed sin.

So every one of us needs Savior. He was born of a virgin.

So he had a Different nature. He didn't have a sin nature like we have. That's why the virgin birth. is one of the foundations of Christianity. He had a human father.

He didn't have a human father. Yeah.

Uh but you got one minute. One minute, John. Oh no, g give me more time, Pastor Ernie. To be able to get to the rapture, you need to repent of sin and confess. Confess that Jesus on the cross paid the penalty for your sin.

That's the key for eternal life. And he rose from the dead. Three days later, and as he rose from the dead, all of us are going to raise from the dead or have a translated body.

So you can have assurance of eternal life. and being at the marriage supper of the Lamb, if you confess Jesus Christ as your Savior, repent of your sin and believe that God put He paid the penalty for your sin. you can have assurance of eternal life with it.

Okay, Pesper. And there's nothing as as sure as that because you've got God's word on that. Yeah.

And that is the most powerful thing in existence. Anyhow, we're out of time for tonight. I want to thank you for being here. I think we had a I think it was a very good program tonight and pr and I think God answered our prayers. He answered our prayers.

They didn't try to take us down. Maybe they tried, but they didn't.

So we say good night. Good night. We say God bless. God bless. Always, always, always.

Ready? Keep finding the Yeah. Wait. Fine. Fine.

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