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Ah, he is a man of incredible stature. In fact, when he enters the room, heads turn. I don't know who that is, but I don't know either. Who are you talking about? I don't know, but I know tonight you're my co-host.
Good evening, Castell. Good evening, and how are you today? I'm doing good. You?
Well, I'm all right. We're ready to go. Yep. And uh. And we have a special guest tonight.
Our special guest tonight. From the Slavic Gospel Association is Michael Johnson. Hey, Michael, are you there? I'm here. Good to have you here with us.
You got the board. We're going to be getting into our scripture here right off the bat and Uh the title of the message was Repent or Perish is Not Just a Slogan. And uh the impetus for this message was the rise that we have out there today Amongst the Word of Faith movement and these others, where they're preaching that repentance is not necessary for salvation. Uh and now that they're even going farther than that that that um You've got the Universal Salvation Group that's out. They tried to get on this radio program.
They wanted me to give them a platform. to preach that heresy, okay, that All sin, okay, that has All sin has been forgiven. All sin, there is no. no longer any reason to ask for forgiveness and That everyone's going to heaven.
Now, this is what they're preaching. This is right from the pit of hell, folks. they're preaching they're tickling the ears of people and Buonk, I tell you, I think there's going to be a special hot place in hell for people that are knowingly doing this. They know exactly what they're doing. They're knowingly.
bringing people right to that burning lake of fire. And we're going to start with just one verse here tonight in Matthew. And just um Michael, just jump in and comment. you know as we go along here, don't be afraid just to jump in and and comment.
Well, we start off in in verse ma of uh Matthew chapter four, verse seventeen. From that time when Jesus began to preach and to say, Repent. for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
So The very first time Jesus was preached in his public ministry, He preached repentance. Before him John the Baptist came preaching repentance, and of course We know that for a hundred and twenty years No a priest repents. And as we've been going through here, we've given you different examples of the New Testament in the scriptures. And I want to go over now to to uh Luke. And in Luke chapter Luke chapter 13, verses 1 through 5.
They were present. At that season Some that told him of the Galileans whose Blood pilot had mingled with their Sacrifices And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose you that the Galileans were Sinners above all the Galileans. Because they suffered such things? I tell you, nay. But except you repent, ye shall also likewise perish.
or those eighteen upon whom the Tower of Salom fell. and slew them Thank you, they We're sinners above all men. and dwelt Now in Jerusalem I tell you nay But except you repent, you shall all likewise perish the nump. Uh he's kind of giving us Um a message there.
Sounds pretty clear to me. Yeah, uh We kind of have an idea, or sometimes we'll have a mindset, and how often you've heard?
Well, The chickens came home to roost, and you know, I hear me say that often. Uh but we'll Sometimes Uh presume assume and presume that Uh these people received you know you know, a terrible accident or something happened to him. uh because of their sin. And he's telling us Not to think that way, isn't he? I would say I would say, yeah, he's saying that that Unless you repent, you're gonna perish just like they did.
That it's not they didn't perish necessarily just because they were sinners. Um Yeah. you will perish as well. as they did if you don't repent. All right.
You're you're right after it. You you're figuring it out.
Okay. And that's exactly what he's telling us, Sue. Uh Repentance the only remedy Uh for sin The only way to forgiveness is repentance, is it not? Absolutely. What do you think, Michael?
Oh, I agree. I agree. I mean, I I we work with the Baptist churches in the former Soviet countries. And when you ask them How long they when they came to faith and how long they've been a Christian, I mean, their response is always: well, I repented ten years ago, I repented five years ago, because in their minds, A repentance is a requirement. And to say your question.
Because of these that you have truly changed your life from the pursuit of sin to the pursuit of pleasing God. and living a Christian life.
So you see, and you hear people talking about that all the time, telling you, yes. Uh I repented, and I said the sinner's prayer, And now I'm saved, but There's no evidence. There's no fruits there. In other words. Uh when was the last time you read the Bible?
Well, you know. couple Sundays ago I I was in church, I read the Bible, okay. rest of the time I spend on the internet, right? Or You know, what ministry are you working? Are you in the pro-life ministry?
Or, you know, what what kind of church work do you do?
Well I don't really do that. I I have hobbies, right? Um no evidence. Uh the Bible says that faith without works is what? Yeah.
It says James 1.22, Be you a doer of the word, but not a hearer only what, deceiving yourself, right? Mm-hmm. And Jesus said that Many are called, but few are chosen. Many will come, but few will enter. And When he told those that had a they had a profession of faith, but not a possession.
Depart from me, you workers of iniquity. I never knew you.
Okay. And so why do you think it is that that teaching in the The prosperity in the word of faith church is so popular that repentance is not necessary for salvation. Talk to me, fellas. Yeah. Well, I think it's obvious.
Um It's Uh people's ears being tickled. Um and um And it's faith without Um sacrifice. And uh and if and if they and if they if they expect God to give them to continue to give them what they want in terms of prosperity and financial Well-being and And um the things of the world. Uh certainly There is a message that tickles the ears of many people and leads to a very shallow view of God. I think you're absolutely right.
Also a lot of people are just looking for an easy way out. Gloria Olstein says that that it's not about This is this is not about God, it's about us. And what makes God happy what makes God happy is to make us rich. He wants us to be real but we gotta have faith. You know, I d I don't know.
I was Reading in here, Jesus was talking about saying how it was easier for Camel to fit through the eye of a needle in a rich man to get to heaven. I we just read earlier about Lazarus and the rich man and of qu over there in James five, he He says, Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now, there were some rich men in the Bible. that were very good people like Job and and Abraham. And uh But Uh Jesus said the place up here Your crown's in heaven, where your heart is, that's where your treasure is, and Joe Olstein says Nope, you gotta live the good life now.
Now, T D Jake says, I want my stuff and I want it now, okay? And so He's he's They're preaching this prosperity So they're playing off The greed of people, are they not? Are they not playing off their greed? Yeah, absolutely.
Well, apparently so, yes, absolutely. And and you notice something too. Do you ever notice watching whenever they pan uh these prosperity churches White or black. Uh It doesn't matter. They The relationship to men versus women in these prosperity churches.
Have you ever noticed? that there's a big imbalance Uh where it comes to the two genders? You definitely see a lot more women and um Y you think that's uh mainly because of A lack of discernment. That's exactly it's about 70% uh of those prosperity churches are women, okay? Uh, you know, they they they they're about uh two to one over the men, okay.
And Um, yeah, well, I it is. You know, the You know, the Apostle Paul, when he um he made it very clear when he says it was not Adam, but it was Eve that was deceived, and that's that's where the enemy attacks women. is in an area of discernment And Uh there Uh the males usually they're much more skeptical. They're And they and they recognize these guys are con men, I mean, for the most part. You you talk to a knot a lot of these guys that go there And they're telling you they're not going for the preaching, they're going for that's where the women are.
This is where all the pretty women are. Maybe I could understand that to a point, but you still got to get legitimate. Preaching and teaching, you know, you can't. It's got to be for more than just the women. There's there's greater rewards.
Well, I'm I'm telling I'm telling you what they're telling what if you ask these guys, most of them that are attending th these prosperity churches, they're only going there for the women. They're not definitely not going there for the teaching because Yeah. There there is no real teaching at all. No, I've I've s I've never heard Joe Osteen preach from the Bible. Not one time have I ever heard him preach from the Bible.
I don't know.
So Anyhow, and and then And some of the things Uh that that you hear them like what's his name? Jesse uh what is his name? Uh oh. You know who I'm talking about. Um I I'm trying to think of his last name right now.
But it is close or something. Pardon? Is it duplicate? Oh, yeah, Duplantis, Duplantis, yeah. Jes Jesse, Jesse, will you We have him.
And this is no kidding. We have him on a uh video And he's actually saying That Jesus stops by his church every now and then, drops in, and asks for advice. I'm not kidding you. The ridiculousness of that statement alone.
Well, there should be no one in those pews. There should be no one in that church just because of that statement alone.
Well, let me tell you. Those that are in that church are asking, What are you telling him, Jesse? What are you telling him? And uh and so, yeah, I mean this Y we we scratch our head and we think about it, but How pitiful is this? This is this is.
really, really pitiful that Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, and he actually said one day Jesus came in Jesus was very forlorn. Just had came in. He was just really down. And Jesse said, I went over there and put my arm around him, kind of loved up on him a little bit.
He left there in a whole lot better mood. I can't believe I I I'm saying, you know Maybe Jesse's just crazy. Maybe. Yeah, maybe he's believing. Uh I think you'd have to be crazy.
Because I can tell you God is not happy with him. Right? And so with that I'm gonna I'm gonna stop right there. And go to Michael and my Michael Tell us what's going on. There's something happening over there in Russia, isn't there?
There is. Yes. There's a lot of things happening in Russia. And certainly the conflict between Ukraine And Russia is kind of Yeah.
sort of dominated the news cycles over the last uh few weeks and few months. And um And it because of the fact that That's the area. That's our specific area of ministry. We're getting a lot of attention from people wanting to know. what's really going on from the standpoint of what God is doing there.
And I will say that in the midst of this Um you know, got Christ continues to build this church. And uh in in Ukraine in particular, um Our ministry was established in nineteen thirty four. Just for a little context for your listeners. We were founded by a man named Peter Danikai. He was an immigrant from Belarus.
He came, got saved at the Moody Church. and eventually went back and began to minister to people over there and then came back here and started this ministry so that we can. help. And we helped in the distribution of Russian language Bibles and we had a radio program where we were communicating God's word via shortwave radio. And we had a wonderful history of sort of a Christian ministry over the years.
But when the wall came down, we partnered with one of the largest groups of evangelical churches, that being the Baptist churches. The Baptist churches in those countries were established in the early 1800s by German Mennonite missionaries that came into both Ukraine. In Georgia. evangelize the peasant populations and through the Spirit of God. The word took hold and the church really began to grow.
During the 1800s, there was revival that was taking place, many people got saved. But then in the early twentieth century, obviously, the persecution came, and the Baptists were caught in the middle of it. There were many pastors and church workers that were killed. during those times, so it was a very dark period. But Jesus said that, you know Um because I was persecuted, you'll be persecuted.
And they understood that. And they accepted that. And if it meant they gave their lives for God and And the proclamation of Christ, they were willing to do that. I was thinking of a man that I an older man, gentleman I met when I was in Ukraine. He was the father of Of the founder of a seminary that we financially support called Irpine Seminary, which is right out of Tarakiv.
And he was an old guy working in the garden. He was like ninety in his nineties and I asked if he would tell a story. And he told me that he grew up in Um in the Saparosia region. in Ukraine Uh, he was a deacon. And it was his job.
to go around and minister to the families whose husbands or sons were taken away and sent to the prison camps because they were either Christians or they were pastors. And he said during those days, all the pastors would they'd have a bagpack of clothes Sitting at the front door in the event that the KGB and the secret police would come and take them away.
So one of the nights. you know, he he was they knocked on his door and they arrested him. They brought him down to the police station. They charged him with the crime of sedition, which means crimes against the state. And His crime.
was that he believed that they were Yeah. Yeah. That superseded the state because under communism there's nothing higher. than the state and the bureaucracy. And for that reason, they sentenced him to death.
put him on a train, sent him to a Siberian camp They put him in a room and with all the other condemned prisoners. And he, um Uh and every night the door would open and And the guard would shine a flashlight and the person upon whom the light Yeah. and shot and executed. Till one night the light fell upon him, and he was being walked across the prison yard And as he was being Brought to the place where they were going to execute him, the warden came out of his room and said, Well, who is that? And they said, Well, this is Brenza.
He said, Well, where is he from? He said um he's from Zaporozhia. He said, well, what's his crime? He said, Well, he's a Baptist. And uh And the commandants replied, My mother's a Baptist.
attends that church commuter sentence.
So they commuted his sentence to ten years, and they let him go. And one day, he showed up at his home. They had all written him off, that he had died And it was a wonderful, glorious reunion. And as a result of that, he had three or four sons, all pastors Teachers. Christian leaders in Ukraine, and God bless that guy.
I think he died when he was 99 years old.
So, you know The reason I share that story is that I think it's a kind of a different experience than what we experience here, particularly in the 20th century. True. Where persecution was just kind of a way of life. And most people, most Christian families had somebody in their history. or in their family that was um either per severely persecuted or died as a result of their profession of Christ the Savior.
We had years ago we had wormbread. Go. Mm-hmm. Pastor on this radio program, he was tortured for Christ. And boy, I'm gonna tell you, he really had some stories to tell you about of what was taking place there in the gulags and The Satanism, though how much they hate it.
I mean, it's just. the pure hatred towards Christians, uh, they're yeah. And um yeah what they had done for him, what they had done to him And he he managed. And so Yeah, we don't realize uh And and Before that Oh, um I had what's his name, and I'm I'm having one of my senior moments, but He was tau telling about one day. There uh in the Soviet Union where They would come.
They would they were would come for somebody and the secret police and they would just And the people wouldn't resist because they knew it was useless in one day how they came and uh A woman resisted. She said no, and she fought back and she started fighting against the KGB. And and people around her saw that and they joined in. They joined in, and that's when it started when the revolution was about ready. And that was the start of the The fall of the Soviet Union, the Iron Curtain, there and the breakup of the Soviet Union.
We've had uh also Um pastors here on the radio program from Russia who were Run Christian schools in Russia. And I I was telling you about it earlier. The um Yeah. was telling us here on the program how He wasn't it wasn't the the KGB didn't bother him. He he wasn't afraid of the KGB.
They he said he he they would often come into and sit and watch and even even come into a church service just to sit and listen. Um everybody knew they were KGB. But there was two attempts on his life. And um Yeah, two attempts on his life and he said it wasn't from the KGB, it was from the the Russian Orthodox Church. Yeah.
And and then he ended up leaving him blind in in in one eye. He ended up being blind when he came back here. But that's exactly what uh They were doing. Let me tell you, because here now you've got Russia. Uh in this Ukraine war they've lost a million, a million.
Young soldiers Yeah. Are the the people of Russia putting up with this? I know I know they they don't have any guns, that the the government has all the guns. I know in in America here it would be different and I can You know, like just what happened to that young Ukrainian woman here They're on that train and and you know the people and Charlotte when people didn't help her. I mean, it's just you know, it it just makes me s I can't believe the app is sick.
It makes me sick to see that.
Okay. Mm-hmm. But I tell ya I tell you who should be tried along. When mister Brown Uh and that should be that judge that let him off. That judge should be tried for for murder too.
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Back. uh with Michael Johnson and uh He is with the Slavic Gospel Association. We're talking about what's happening in Russia there today. And so Oh. I don't know.
Michael, how do they uh You you would think that Putin is is drafting every young man. I don't know.
Are they draft do they draft young women for combat there in Russia? I don't think so. I think it's mostly I think it's for the most part men. But you know, again, we We we have we supp we sponsor and support churches in all the countries of the former Soviet Union.
So the two biggest countries that we support are Ukraine and Russia. And obviously, you know, the n the amount of men young men that are being killed in the war is just beyond belief. and the number of families that are being impacted is just incredible. And incredibly sad. And um So you know, that's where the local church comes in and and um and They They have a significant ministry ministering to families who have been impacted by the war.
with the loss of loved ones who have died in the war. And it's just a really sad situation. And you asked about. how the Russians feel about the number of deaths that have transpired as a result of this and Uh you don't You don't hear a lot of uh Okay, okay. To speak out would mean that you are expressing opposition to the war.
And you don't want to be in a situation where Uh where where people where the government discovers you're doing that, you know?
So, um So they just you know, there's a certain level of patriotism that exists in Russia for this and uh You know, they just can't. Continue to Um move ahead. It's you know, it's day after day, you know?
So, um But it's really difficult. Um but, you know, in Ukraine right now, um, When the war started, a lot of the Christians and the pastors left. and made their way across the country into Eastern Europe and many of them moved here to the United States. Um But the churches are growing in Ukraine, and there's a bit of revival. And the revival stems to a large degree from the acts of mercy that these churches have demonstrated to people who have been impacted by the war.
And so the churches are growing There are more Christians attending churches in Ukraine than there was before the war started. And um And so the majority of the people in the churches are new new converts. and in new numbers. And in the midst of this, again, Christ is building his church and And there's an out lot of outreach that's taking place. And we continue to financially support Those churches mostly you know in in distributing humanitarian aid to the people impacted by the war and the people that are making their way across the country so they can escape the war into Eastern Europe.
It is, you know, i I don't know, uh, what do you think? Is going to happen here because I know that Trump really feels that he was betrayed by Putin here. Um and uh And this is, you know, this is where the second or third time, and so he's He's Uh He's got to do something, you know, and it'll be something big. Just to kill Axe. Yeah, he'll do thump thump.
Yeah, there's no question about that.
Well, it's gonna be well, one of the things that he could do is is put huge tariffs or embargoes on on these other countries that buy their oil or whatever from Russia. Uh or he could Uh he could send you know, some very, very powerful weapons to the Ukraine That would really uh Yeah. We knock out the technologies what Russia's getting from Iran. Iran has all of those. Uh What a drones.
They uh and you know that uh they're they're building those high-tech drones. Yeah. But I mean, this could increase the war, but the thing of it is, is. I hear that, like you said, that both in Ukraine and and in Russia there's pockets of revival breaking out. And and so And right actually here in America too there's been pockets of revival breaking out that that Did we see just a little bit of a taste Of what when Joe Biden was in, when Merrick Garland And Chris Ray when they targeted the churches.
Um, when they, you know, um Did we see just a little bit of uh just a a small bit of of what they've suffered there in Ukraine and and uh Russia under the Communism. Um I I'm not quite sure. Sure specific incidents.
So you're saying that um The ring at the That's right. Churches here in the U. S. But he yeah, he went after Christians, he went after Pro Lifers, Yeah, proliferate. During COVID, um Yeah, during COVID they went after those churches that were holding services, even ser services in their parking lots.
Well, even even after COVID, they were caught sending FBI under undercover agents into The Catholic Churches Yeah. Get anything to uh come after him. But but not just that, homeschoolers. They were going after home schoolers. You're going after and after pro-lifers, and these are like 99% Christian.
Well, I mean, there's they're still doing it now. I mean it not Not the Trump administration, but you still have these Democrats out there that are attacking Christians, calling them Christian nationals, just because we believe our rights come from God. They're trying to vilify us. Colorado has really become very, very anti-Christian. Uh there they're going after Christians in in every way that they can, so Uh now Here, you know, I've heard Putin actually, and you know, of course, you know, I've actually heard Putin make a profession of faith.
Uh he he's he's come out in fact believes he's a Christian. Yeah. Um He believes he's a Christian? Yeah. And uh Boy, I'm telling you Yeah, yeah, that's that's a real a little yeah.
It's hard to handle, but uh some of the things he has done Um is he's running the homosexuals out. Homosexual is, you know Sodomy is a crime in Russia. Yeah. that they need to they need to stop abortion. Abortion should not ab abortion is murder.
He said it and he it needs to be stopped. And he's right on there, so I don't know, it's It's crazy because you don't you really don't know what to believe because you do see stories. where Russia seems to be Almost justified in what they're doing in Ukraine because of this or that, or what Ukraine's doing to churches over there, or to its own people, and the accusations of Nazism in Ukraine, and all that. And then you see the other side where Ukraine's sitting there and they're just being bombarded. you you try to piece two and two together and you you never come up with four because you really don't know what you're what you're watching or where this information's coming from if it's accurate you We really don't know.
We're on the outside looking in, and we can't trust our media to tell us the truth on anything, really.
Okay. No, not not your legacy media. This is why we need people. Here, like Michael, who, you know, and this is where we get a lot of our stories from the missionaries, and I know. We've done so much of our reporting over the years for for what was taking place from China.
Because we had missionaries in China and missionaries in South Africa that were in constant contact and Telling us what was really going on. What was really going on was a whole lot different than from what you hear on uh what what they call the the mainstream media nowadays, or now they calling it legacy. But yeah. How can the folks out there, Michael? The people out there listening say, you know, it sounds like that's uh an organization I'd like to help out.
How can they Donate to your organization, Mayor.
Well, we have a website. It's sga.org. That's sga.g And um, you know, one of the things that uh um I've been talking about um which has been a priority for us is the ministry that we support to the children growing up in state run orphanages in Russia and Ukraine. And um And I will say that that, you know, You know, we still there th there there is an open door in Russia to preach the gospel. There's an open door in Russia that trained pastors.
In sound theology and send them out to preach the gospel and plant churches and you know, equip them with resources so they can meet physical and spiritual needs of the people in their communities. You know, we have an aviation ministry in Far East Russia. We got three airplanes and pilots that are flying to all these remote villages. Out in the middle of nowhere, dropping food off, sharing the gospel with them, planting churches.
So every region in Russia we have ministry and um you know the government just you know they just it It's just a green light to be able to do this and grow these churches. There is an open door there. And Christ is building his church in Russia, and we're taking advantage. of uh the the open door that we have to equip them with resources so that they can reach more people.
So uh so for us, um Um we The churches have a passion for these Russian orphans, and therefore we have a passion for these orphans. I think it's a very good idea. You know, there's a st statistic back in let me see, about thirty years ago when the wall came down. The Russian government did a study on what happens to These chill these these young people that grow up in these orphanages on their 18th birthday. they age out and they put them out in the street.
ninety seven percent of those kids are lost. You know, prostitution. Cardinality Drug addiction Yeah. Suicide. And that was updated 30 years later and only went down to 87%.
So, the majority of these kids, when they grew up in these orphanages, they just lost. And Then you it's just a really sad situation.
So for us, We created this program thirty years ago called Orphans Reborn. And so we Are able to identify workers who have a passion for orphan work, and we fund them to go into those orphanages. They'll literally go in once a week. and conduct Bible studies, build relationships with the kids. mentor them.
And share the gospel with them and lead many of them to Christ as they're growing up in those orphanages. And the orphan they have an open door to be able to do that. And so on their eighteenth birthday, When they age out, we rather than being thrown out in the street. They're embraced by local churches. that continue to disciple them, that that hold them accountable, so that they can start their life based upon the pursuit of holiness as a Yeah.
the pursuit of criminality. And so this is an incredibly fruitful ministry, and we've impacted the lives of tens of thousands of orphans all throughout those countries.
Well, let me a ask you this then. How would you compare? uh church attendance Uh you know, with Russia and with with that of of here in the United States. Um in terms of the numbers I would say that church attendance is. Consistent in Russia.
That when somebody Repent of their sins. when they make a profession of faith. And and um and they're embraced by the churches. They will stick with it. And Russia.
Yeah. These are just wonderful believers. I mean, you know, and these churches were built upon a foundation of great sacrifice and persecution. And so the leaders of these churches. Mm-hmm.
are wonderful, godly people. And um And they attract many people to their churches because of the authenticity of their faith.
So uh I just think that, you know, again, for me, I I Listen, I I I can't even believe it. I I would I can't believe I get to carry these people's bags. You know, they're just so wonderful and godly. And they've gone through so much.
So there's an authenticity to the There are many cases we don't see. Yeah. Um What about Ukraine? Uh what how would you Compare the church attendance in Ukraine.
Well like I said, um, the churches are growing in Ukraine 'cause there's a revival taking place in the midst of the war. Uh so um Yeah, these are faithful uh these are faithful brothers and sisters. And again, Ukraine is considered the buckle of the Bible Belt. Uh ultra Europe. And the reason is that there are more evangelical churches in Ukraine.
than any other country in Europe. And um And, you know, the pastors are well trained, they've got a great training infrastructure. structure and those churches just continue to grow. And in fact, you know, once the war started I was in Poland um but nine months ago and um And I met with a group of refugees. From Ukraine, and these are believers.
And um And they were there doing evangelism and church planting among uh the Ukrainian refugee population in in Poland.
So they're spreading throughout Europe. And again, these are very godly people. They're wonderful evangelists. They're wonderful church planters. Yeah.
is going to be felt all throughout Europe as time goes on.
Well, you know, again, I just praise God for that. And the vast majority of people in this country. Yeah. They don't have a clue. Uh if you were to ask them out there about what's happening to Russia.
Um the vast majority will say, Well, Russia's communist and uh Christians are outlawed. I mean, a lot of them believe that. Yeah. And and so That's what I used to think, you know.
Well did it Yeah, well, there were were times spent back there when that was That was pretty much the case. Like, this is why Richard Rem Wormbrat, when he was on here. With us that was But Today, again, like you're saying. Um do you know, it was an interesting thing because these people, like Karl Marx was was a Satanist. And Joseph St Stalin, there were a number of those uh That were practicing Satanists, and Joseph Stalin was actually.
a Satanist, but there was s he was said to To be afraid. To curse God. Um that that was an interesting thing. Um Yeah. Uh And so, you know, you you have this Uh now let me ask you this because today Would you actually say consider uh Russia to be a communist country today?
Um not in the most extreme sense. I mean, it does it does. does have a centralized government. Um and um and so I think there's a lot of tight controls. Uh over the population.
But at the same time, there is religious freedom in Russia. You know, and um and you know we I haven't traveled there since the war started. Um but I do want to get back there. And, you know, the Russian government, they know who we are and they know what we're doing and. they don't seem to have a problem with it, um because Yeah.
and what we're helping the churches do. is providing a lot of value. Uh The population, the church-based alcohol rehab centers, the orphan work we do. Um You know, this year we sponsored 41,000 children in Russia to 10. summer camp and that's real positive and has a positive impact on the kids.
So, um So there is a recognition recognition and appreciation. But the good works that result as a result of the good works that take place as a result of the partnerships that we have with their Baptist Church. There, so um yeah, so I again I again most people Most people would be surprised at the level of religious freedom that does exist. But it does exist. Much more than let's just say in China, for example, where you have to state yourself.
Yeah. And and in North Korea it's it's nonexistent.
Well Right. The the church the church is not allowed at all with the Mm-hmm.
Well, you know, it is really good that that you came on and you're talking about that and you're letting people out there know. Because they certainly would never know that by listening to the news media in this country, would they? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. Well, yeah. And that that, you know, and that's And that's something that we that'll give them an opportunity to pray for the growth of the church in that country. because the Lord has opened the hearts of the leadership to allow it to take place. Place and seeds are being planted, and people are coming to faith in Christ, and the church is growing, and we're training them.
So we've established a number of seminaries over there and Bible Institutes.
So it's one thing to open up a seminary, the next question is, well, what are you teaching? And so so for many years. Um we had a partnership with John MacArthur and uh And we've used it. we've translated a lot of his commentaries and his study bible and um And it's been a real blessing to the people there because, you know, obviously his. John's passion.
was always He loves the Russian people. He told me that if he could have moved over there to be a missionary, He would have done that and um because he just has a lot of heart for those people. Um, but um uh he has been very gracious and very committed to helping. The pastors and the churches solid f understanding of God's word. And a solid understanding of truly biblical and theologically sound teaching, Bible teaching.
Unfortunately, he's passed away, and that's. been a big loss, but He's been a great friend and partner to our ministry. And to the churches over there. Yeah, well we've had many Many pastors, it seems like, have passed away in this c uh in this country in the last couple of years in Charles Stanley. No, yeah.
Uh yeah. Yeah, well I Uh Myself, I've I've Uh varied probably s at more than a dozen pastors. Both of them were good friends of mine.
Well, we all know where they are now, right? Yeah, we know where they are. Amen. Amen for that and for sharing glory. Amen.
I uh again It's really good, you know, when you when you stop and think about that. And here now with Trump in office, Trump is is working towards moving things towards the back to the stopping the uh anti-Christian, you know, but what we had with Biden, Biden was totally anti-Christian. And that's when we're back. Maybe this will also help Um in America here, you know, I'm gonna tell you, America needs to repent. She really does.
God has blessed her to much is given, much is required. And, you know, God has expectations and we have obligations. And boy, I'm going to tell you, the people really I was talking to a young man today. Who didn't didn't think he should tie it? We had quite a um you know, talk and uh you know about respecting you If you're going to If you're going to show up late...
Let it be any place but the house of God. Don't Don't don't ever dishonor the house of God. We're running up against it. I want to thank you again for being here. And and just say, Michael, tell again, tell the folks how they can get in touch how they can help you.
And also You know, there's a lot of f uh folks out there that are not on the internet. People don't you know, it's hard for people to believe, but they're And we get a lot of support. A lot of the people who support this ministry are not on the o internet. They don't have T V's, they don't have the internet.
So how can they they can go to The S G A Yeah, sga.org.org. Yeah. And if you're interested in the orphan industry, it would be sga.org slash orphan. If you want to call us, you can call us at 1-800-100-1. Bible.
Let me I'm gonna write this down. One Eight hundred Bible fifty.
Okay. Fifty. Uh do me a favor, would you Keep in touch and and let let me know how things are going over there.
Okay. It was good having you here. And if there's anything we can do to to help. I wouldn't do that, okay. Uh and so uh in fact I think I'm gonna We're going to add you to our I We're going to add you to our missionaries.
It'll be getting somewhere. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, God bless you. Thanks again.
We're right up to the what to what gets the clock and And uh We'll we'll see you again, hopefully, soon.
Okay. All right, folks. Have a good evening. You too. God bless.
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