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Tonight, my very competent and capable co host, And producer is none other than Style. Hey, Pastor, how are you? We're ready to roll tonight, Style, and uh We have to night windmade from the Ohio Christian Education Network. None other than David Arrell. David, are you there?
Yes, sir, I am. All right. I am I pronouncing your last name right? Hi, Errol. Errol?
Okay. Yeah, I've since uh I've never seen a spelling with two R's and two L's. Oh. Yeah, it's kind of like Daryl without the D. Oh, all right.
Oh yay, very good. Uh we're going to get right into our scripture tonight and um If you have any questions or comments, just jump right in as we go through this here. Um And where the title of the message was Cities habitat of sinners Yet one city Without sin or without sinners. And we've been going through. a list from the very first city and that was the city of Enoch.
It was named by his dad Cain after Enoch his son, And we've gone through a litany of the older cities from the Bible, and we've noticed. Like t like today. You know, in the in the cities of old Um Here. They were always hotbeds of especially the large cities. The large cities were always hotbeds of corruption.
You know, today among the most corrupt uh In the is the largest New York City along with uh LA and Chicago. But I believe that Satan's corporate headquarters has has to be Washington DC. It's a You know, you just they just had The ninety-ninth. murder there this so far this year, the ninety ninth and uh the the corruption in DC for per capita Um, is you know, it's outs you know, it's they're leading And so here And used to DC used to mean the District of Columbia, today means the District of corruption. In fact, uh we mentioned this before some years ago, David, I Do you remember that fellow?
I used to say And for the rest of the story. Paul Harvey. Oh, Harvey, yeah. Yeah.
Well, it was an amazing thing because we were Back then. Uh I was doing uh A little history on or record events on on DC. This and I mean, I'm talking probably back in the eighties and uh At that time Even way back then. Uh there were ten. ten thousand lawyers in the city of D D C And they had an average of nineteen hundred cocktail parties a day.
And also And and we're talking about our Nations Capital Per capita they had a higher rate of prostitution than Las Vegas. And of course they had One of the highest rates of abortion in the entire country. uh per capita, you know, next to ne to uh New York And and um Of course, with that also an extremely high rate of prostitution. Oh, we mentioned prostitution, but anyhow, you know, being a a pro-lifer Boy, in D.C., and I know because we went after a number of abortion mills there in D.C. And Pro Lifer didn't have a chance.
Pro Lifers were They were traded in just like even today. uh totally abused in that in that city of DC. But we're gonna pick it up where we left off. Uh In Genesis chapter nineteen And we left off in verse thirty. And Here where we see Uh and lot went up.
out of Zor, You know, Lott and his and uh his two daughters, he didn't want to go up to the mountain and so He asked the angels could if he could uh go to Zor, but he wasn't very welcome in Zor. The Inhabitants of Zorts w were sitting there watching uh Sodom and Gomorrah on fire and all of a sudden here comes Lotton and uh he wasn't welcome there but anyhow And He dwelt in the mountains. And Lot went up out of Sor and dwelt in the mountains with his two daughters, where they with him for he feared to dwell in Zor, and he dwelleth in a cave. He and his two daughters. And how those two girls got out of Uh G Sodom and Gomorrah without being you know, by being still being virgins, it's an amazing thing.
Of course. There was a lot of sodomy there, but there were there was still uh Marriages. And the firstborn Seven to the younger Our father is old, and there is not a man in the in the earth to come Into us. after the manner of all the earth. You think, David, that they sent their Now they did have uh knowledge of of their uncle Abraham.
Well Their great uncle Abraham. But they they they're watching the the five cities on the plains all on fire. And that had been their world there. And he Yeah, I think it's a good idea.
Well, I think that's the point that They have been traumatized not only by their environment, but by their escape and the destruction they witnessed on the way out. And so I don't I I can't see them thinking too clearly.
Well, not just that, but I mean that look, they're They didn't travel a lot in those days. And so they're saying what virtually has been their known world.
Now, again. uh they did have knowledge of Abraham and others but as far as their in their mind, if here if if th if it's all burning up here, It's probably burning up there too. And so He says, Come let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him. that we may preserve the the seed of our Father.
Now Here th this is uh Well, let me go on and we'll we'll take a good look at this. And after they made their father drink wine that night And the firstborn went in, and lay with their father, and He perceived not when she lay down nor when she rose, for he must must have had some strong wine. And it came to pass on the morrow. That the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold I lay yesternight with my father, Let us make him drink. wine this night.
also and go, thou in, and lie with him. That we may preserve the seed of our fathers. They're Their motive Was a was a good motive. It wasn't an unrighteous motive. Um, you know, because and to And that culture there in the East If a man had no No sons?
to to follow him to carry his name It was considered that um he was cursed of God. Just like a woman if a woman's womb was was shut, It was perceived that she was cursed of God, okay?
So Uh the the reason They did this. uh was was not necessarily a wrong reason but And and really was there was no incest laws at that time. Nothing really specifically condemned it in Scripture because The mosaic laws against i incest have not yet been given, and so.
Now and and they knew, for example, in those days too Um That, for example, his daughters knew that their great-uncle Nahar. had married his niece, which was their own aunt, okay. And they were I'm sure those they were aware that Abraham had married his half-sister. And so But But This was different. This was their father.
And you knew that they knew That They were doing Wrong because they knew that their father Would never to would never agree to that, am I correct? Yeah, I think that's fair from their methodology, that they had to get him drunk. to make this happen. And so Yeah, because they they yeah, and so they knew right then And so that was not in obedience to their father. I don't know.
They probably figured we've got to do. We can't let our father be dishonoured in this way. And Do you think maybe they thought that They were the last Maybe the last living people on earth?
Okay, hey. You know, I it's hard to put put myself into their thinking, but that's a distinct possibility. based on what they witnessed. uh coming out of that destruction. And so they Who knows the the limit?
of their understanding, but the uh It is clear that they believe that this was a desperate time. the last people on earth that's I don't know if I'd go there, but I know that they thought it was a desperate time. And let me pick it up there. And they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger rose and lay with him, and he perceived not when they lay down, and nor when she arose. Thus were both daughters of Lot with child by their father.
Uh And the So they They go in it as virgins Of course we know that The bloodlines in the fertility was much stronger in those days than it is today. Uh so here these these girls The very first time they have sex they get pregnant. And both daughters of Lot had with child by their father, The first born bear a son, and called his name Mob, the same as the father of the Moabites unto this day, And the younger she also bare a son called his name, Benami the same as the father of Ammon, Until this day.
Well, you know, that's an interesting thing because you know, the people descended from the Moabites And the Abonnites They were perpetual enemies of Israel during the entire history, weren't they? Yeah.
And so I'm gonna stop there and tomorrow night we're gonna pick it up with the last city and this is Only one city that had no sinners And no sin. And we'll be picking that up tomorrow night. And so I'm going to stop right here for tonight. And Uh Matt, I've got a quick announcement to make. Where to go?
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and the Center for Christian Virtue. The mission statement says we seek the good of our neighbors by advocating for public policy. and it reflects the truth of the gospel. And so we are a lobbying, we are a family council One of the largest in the United States, and there's approximately forty. uh family councils Uh in different states.
Uh around the union. And And ours has a kind of a unique design to it. We do lobbying, and for a lot of folks, lobbying is something that is a little bit they're not quite sure about it. And I know our folks in our office, our lobbyists, they're wonderful. Christians, they are uh deep.
uh people of faith And we don't pass around money to gain influence. we gain influence Um Through relationships? in ministering to lawmakers. And it's really a beautiful thing to see our folks invest time in those relationships. And when we housed or host events in the State House or There's different activities around around the city or even around the state where we'll encounter lawmakers.
you can see that there's a there's a friendship, there's a relationship. with different lawmakers because of the investment in those relationships.
So we're public policy. we do lobbying, but we frame it in three different Ministries. The first is the Church Ambassador Network. and this is a network of over four thousand five hundred churches just here in the state of Ohio. And they They work hard to make sure that pastors have an accurate understanding of what's going on at the state house and how to engage.
Properly. with their congregations about political topics. We cannot advocate for a candidate but we can talk about issues. and keep people informed in that. And so the church ambassador network is the first pillar, the second.
is the Christian Business Partnership, and think about this as a Christian Chamber of Commerce. and for the state of Ohio. And there are regional chapters. And again, they bring information to business owners, concerned citizens in those areas. But they also represent at the Statehouse.
those businesses and make sure that Public policy. Reflects the heart of the gospel, and that's what we're pushing. We want to make sure that what we push. uh what we advocate, what we lobby for. Honors God and benefits the good people here in Ohio.
And so you mentioned us OSIN, the last part. And What we do is we want to make sure that Um Private Christian education is accessible both financially and Geographic. And a couple of years ago, one of our great lobbying efforts was to We intended to pass the backpack bill, but that didn't we didn't quite get that far, that high of a threshold. But we did get the expansion of that choice and so that Or students. uh in the state of Ohio have access to a voucher that would help them go to the school of their choice.
Um And and that's great. It's wonderful to have Yeah. and there are wonderful Christian schools all over the state. We have two hundred and four, I believe, in our network. But not everybody can get into those schools because they're full.
The Christian school movement is flourishing. It's almost like the seventies. Um when when Christian schools were thriving and growing. And we're seeing that resurgence now. But what good is choice if there's no seek?
And so a piece of what we do in the Ohio Christian Education Network. is working with churches. And community leaders. to start new Christian schools. And that is my primary focus.
Yes.
Now wh when you're uh two things. One, I I believe that just recently Now uh the IRS has stated Um that um That the Churches can now Um Uh they could come out and endorse candidates from the pulpit. that they're no longer going to Of course, you know, I pastor a church, we're not a 501c3, we're an unregistered New Testament church.
So we've always done that, okay, and all our UBF churches have done that. But from what I understand, so even if you're a five hundred one C three You can now endorse a candidate. It uh Uh does that apply to Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Well, I I believe that's true. Um I was speaking from a historical perspective, and I actually forgot that part.
So I appreciate you bringing that up, bringing that up. To me, I don't spend as much time in that world. Again, what we're trying to do is open schools here at the end of this month. Uh we're gonna see at least five, probably seven schools. open this fall.
And there's a pipeline for next year that's Six times that size. The fact that President Trump is trying to shut down the Department of Education. Is that having a major uh effect on there? Because I think what has happened, one of the things that's really increased the the number of of Christian schools is what What parents found out during the COVID about what their children were learning in the public school system, Many of them were were just uh you know, and and here's the ironic thing. For fifty years, for fifty years, we've been telling people about this.
what has been being taught in the public school system, uh cultural Marxism being promoted and, you know, and What has been taking place with the libraries in the public school system and some of the pornography. Fifty years we've been telling we've I don't know how many programs we've done on that. But What happened was when when they sent the kids home and apparently sent some School work home with them, and the kids come home and told their parents, We're not supposed to tell you about this, but you know, here's what we're doing, and here's what they're doing. And so. Uh some of the parrots were were just absolutely Horrified by what what they found out.
And so do you think that's Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Well, no, you you're absolutely right. Right. The agenda was Revealed, if you will. Through the work that was uh observed by parents first hand whether they watched it. um online with the kids as they were doing their lessons.
or whether they were reading the materials that came home. Um yeah, the the the curtain was pulled back. And yeah. There was no hiding the agenda anymore. Um Okay.
And you're right. It's been over 50 years in the making, but I would suggest. That if you go back to the roots of publication and the founding fathers of publica of public education, you will see signs that this was their intent all along. where there are direct quotes that Um they were okay with kids going to Sunday school for a half hour hour on Sunday, as long as they got some thirty-five hours a week during the week. to dispel the notion of God and Jesus.
And salvation. And so I just the history. kind of reveals their intent, but it has ramped up, to your point. It has ramped up in the last fifty years. Yeah.
Uh US Department of Education. Yes, they did push their agenda. Yes, they did push their ideology. Yes, they put more burdens on. Um educators.
So that they were distracted. By paperwork. not just ideology, but but beyond that, they put extra burdens on educators. Two. To do certain things and then the follow-up and document, and just the paperwork was just a burden.
So So The majority of the US Department of Education I I I'm great with. Uh dismantling. There are elements though that I don't want to see go away. And that is that the federal government does Help fun. Students who learn differently.
Right. And I'm old enough to be of the the uh generation where If you learn differently, you were told to work harder. In fact, I used to put that comment. Hold it right there. I wanna m hear more about this.
We'll be back right after this. Yeah.
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All right, we're back, and we have David Arrell with us and David, you were you were saying that, um you You're not in favor of uh having the Department of Education disbanded because They go ahead and tell us about the children that have Yeah, so I um I would suggest that the majority of the U. S. Department of Education should be disbanded. But there's an element that helps students learn and they they find kids like like me when when i was in school. In the um late sixties and seventies.
Thank you. I struggled. And I guess the comments: you're not working hard, you're not trying hard enough, and you're not doing Um the work that you're supposed to be doing And to be fair, I was trying. but I was certainly unsuccessful. And it wasn't until grad school When I finally went and did the educational testing and confirmed what I I'd suspected For quite some time, because I was an educator at that point.
And I knew how kids should learn. And I knew that my experience was radically different than how most people uh go through the educational system. And so I ended up with a couple of diagnoses and things like that. You know, I I don't consider them a handicap. I consider them a starting point.
But it would have been helpful to know how to navigate them better. as a student still in the system. And so there are federal funds. What's up? help students learn.
Uh because they get they get some extra attention. to learn strategies to be successful in the classroom. And I've seen those strategies and they work. And so taking away that funding was dramatic to students. Yeah.
Okay, how did in your situation, how did your educator, how did your teachers react to did they understand that you had, uh, say, Do we call it a learning disability or? Yeah, you can call it a learning disability. That's the difference. Most of my teachers were pleasant and respectful. But and they tried to encourage me to work harder.
But that really wasn't the solution. Um I I needed different different strategies. I needed different help. I didn't need more time. I just needed to know how to get things done, giving my starting point.
Um and to be fair, the body is Of knowledge that we have now about how students learn is quite a bit more robust than it was back then. And so I'm not faulting them. for hiding something from me. It it just wasn't developed enough. There'll be a benefit from it.
But now since we have those resources and we have those opportunities to help kids, I think we should still we should do that.
So I don't want to see that funding go away. There's another part of the federal funding that comes to schools, and that's regarding. Uh Helping teachers get better at their craft. you know, teaching is an art and a science. And and then We need to learn skills, we need to learn different strategies.
to connect with students, to help them learn. More Uh And I think continuing that professional development for faculty is a good idea. And so those are two of the main funding streams that I would like to see continued. And I think there's general agreement about that, that we cannot let those those programs Uh Um but the majority of the I'm sorry, go ahead. Wouldn't it be easier for you?
Wouldn't it be easier for you on a on a a basis to lobby your state? State of Ohio to provide those very same services. I mean, it's a lot easier to get legislation passed through the state than it would be a federal. the federal because I don't know How they could do that if if because they're talking about eliminating. uh the Department of Education altogether and throwing everything back to the States.
So I I'd it'll probably be easier to look go ahead. It depends on what their strategy is. Do away with the U.S. Department of Education, yet still send. federal funds to the state to accomplish the same purpose.
then so be it. That's great. Let's move on. Um, I just don't want to leave kids behind. Or Underserve the educators by not providing quality professional development for them.
That's all.
So how we do it. That doesn't as long as it gets done. Let me ask you, go back and tell me again. How many Christian schools do you have in the State of Ohio? We have two hundred and four in our network, but we know that there are many more that they haven't joined our network.
Um for whatever reason. And when we say uh Christian schools. Lutheran schools, Protestant schools, Catholic schools. Um and we know that the majority of the Catholic schools in the state uh are not part of our network yet. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Uh it's cool to see the coalition of uh faith-based educators come together. Um when we talk with The Ohio Department of Education and Workforce. And when we talk with the uh State Board of Education officials. As well as the people in the assembly. assembly.
Well, you know, this is again, like I say, We're we're living in a very, very interesting time right now today. I mean uh with all that is happening the The righteous are becoming more righteous, the ungodly are becoming more ungodly. As we're seeing that division being greater than ever to day Uh, I I have a burden too for, you know, for children of those on the left. I mean that are antichrist. Tho you know The fastest-growing church today, if you call it a church, for those on the left today, it's the church of Satan.
It's their. It's growing. Here in America, it's it's unbelievable. At the same time, you know, we're seeing some things some very good things happening. Revival breaking out even on college campuses, even We've gone for an a woke Uh on the football fields we're seeing now And the football players, instead of taking a knee, you know, they're they're praying and they're they're having Bible studies and things and So we're seeing this in in on a global sense You know, not long ago they just had a a thousand people in Tehran.
I ran received Christ one day.
So those are some good things. Yeah.
So those is those are some you know, really go ahead, I'm sorry.
Well, I I think it's We've read the end. We understand what's coming. And I think for for some they have come to the point when they have fully recognized that what the world offers does not offer hope. In any way, shape, or form. And so those who are in that situation, they're ready.
And that's just phenomenal. Um I do think though. But there is still a large segment of society That is Comfortably numb. to what's really happening. Like it's not bad enough for them yet.
And they haven't surrendered their life to Christ. And they've kind of crafted their own. Um their own religious belief system. In fact Um Christian Smith documented this in a book. It's twenty years old, but it's it's more relevant today than it was when you wrote it.
And that is that people, especially in our country, have created this. This belief system, we would call it, you and I would call it easy believers. Where we've kind of crafted a religion after what we want. You know, we want to. Uh in our humanness, we would want God to serve us.
We would want to be happy and feel good about what we do, and we want everybody to go to heaven.
Well, that's a false reality, but the majority of the people believe some of those central tenets of what's called moralistic therapeutic deism. And and people just They're they're numb to the reality that there is a God. And that there's one way to heaven. Through faith in Jesus Christ. Christ.
And so I'm thrilled that there's revival for those who recognize the need. But I feel burdened by those who don't yet get it. That they have an A.
Well, if we gone from uh you know, f f years back if uh the emerging church Showed up, and now again, it's resurfacing this universal salvation. I just preached a message on this. You know, I've been. Being contacted by these people with this universal salvation message that everyone has been, everyone will get saved. God has decided that everyone goes to heaven now and And and recently, not that long ago, it was about a year ago, the Pope came out and The the the past Pope and said that he didn't believe that there was a hell.
and that kind of just put fuel on the fire. And so this univer that and then you go al along with the prosperity a church out there. Uh Where, you know, again, it's all about What um What God can do for us Uh Joe Gloria Olstein says that It's not about God. It's not about God. It's about us.
that uh what God what makes God happy is making us happy. Uh you know Kyle has things a little backwards, right? I mean, uh. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, my go-to thought is chapter and verse, please.
Yeah.
Okay. Tell me that. Tell me what.
Well, these are These are the the times that we're living in, in which was the signs of the times You know, Second Timothy chapter three today You were saying that again uh in spades but i g again The left is going farther left. the right seems to be going farther to the right, which Uh it it's good to go far to the right, but uh But that's a sign That especially now that AI is entered into the the picture. Um And this is why Christian schools are more important than ever. You know, be because of that, because of what's what's being added to that. Um we're seeing You know, a reverse of what we've had last four years with this transgender.
this mutilating of the children and You know this drag queen the s you know, things that were taking place with these drag queens on our military basis. even how b you know, bad it was too.
So you're right, and people are are s I think You think people Said, okay, you know, th this this is out of hand, it's gone too far. And this is maybe again one of the incentives of more Christian schools? Yeah, and so uniquely, we have this opportunity to Take care. the learnings of the last seventy five years in Christian school education. And build off those best practices.
And so when we start a foundation for a Christian school, We we begin on God's Word. We be we begin bathed in prayer, but we're constructing uh the culture Um Working through the mechanics of getting approved by the state so you can get voucher money or whatever. And so when I talk about uh starting in Christian school, You know, I have to I have to help people understand what it is and also what it is not. And so it's not Sunday school five days a week. In fact, there's a large segment of society that has no idea what Sunday school even is.
Um But we're talking about Great instruction. Great instruction not only in academics but We are teaching. The young men Boys and girls. Who God is? And we're teaching them.
Um how we should Respond and interact with them, and how we should respond and interact with one another. Um You know, we we want to teach them that everything falls under the Lord under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. And so You know, we're looking for first first rate instruction. Um but then we want to we want to integrate every subject. not just have a Bible class, but make sure our kids understand Science through the lens of scripture, history through the lens of scripture, math.
Through the lens of Scripture. And so we go from instruction to integration. And then we go into this thing called immersion where We are teaching them how to live out that faith. in a community of believers. And so we teach them how to treat one another.
You know, in the hallway, in the classroom, on the playground, in the lunchroom. And we're teaching them how to really think deeply. about living out their faith. And we finish it with this concept of intention so that We're not just a bit. Giving these kids a great experience for thirteen years.
We want to help. frame their thinking, frame their pattern of belief, so that they live out a biblical world view. In as you have adequately and and wonderfully described. A lost and dying world. That has gone crazy.
Has gone crazy.
Well, you're you're seeing too also Not r not long ago I went to a a museum, a history museum there w with my grandson And of course I had explained to him Uh no, the earth is not fifty billion years old, and these dinosaurs weren't here. billions of years ago and and I undid, you know, to explain to him the reality where it comes to So they teaching of evolution. Which is not scientific at all. There there's never, ever, ever been one example, not one example. of ever having a creation that didn't have a creator.
It's mathematically impossible.
Okay? And so. Right. Uh I went through I went through that and explaining uh these things and you know and I and I've had to do that before to the and another situations too.
So at at some point when we have more Christian schools graduating more Christians, the guides that come and and explain these things. Oh. Are going to be. Maybe we have Christians and they'll be telling the truth instead of promoting evolution. Evolution is.
Uh you know, one of the biggest fantasies probably the One of the biggest fantasies ever Put upon the the World.
Well that's kind of a goal. Of Bible-believing Christians who are solid in their faith in every aspect. including docents at national parks and museums and even lawyers. We we need Christian lawyers. Who can stand up?
Uh and fight for the truth. I was smiling when you were talking about evolution because you know, as I as I talk with folks, they they they come with some questions when you think about maybe taking some government money for uh religious instruction. And and the reality is it's legal. Because the money doesn't come to the school, it goes to the parents, and the parents apply the voucher here in Ohio. to their child's tuition bill as a school.
Excuse me, but people ask, but you know, will they make you teach certain things? according to their learning standards. And The way I explain it is you know, the the learning standard may be um Teaching about evolution. But what we do Schools that I've been at is that we teach kids about evolution, but we teach it as a false theory. We teach it.
about its implication within science. We teach science. about its implications in other aspects of life. And then we teach our kids how to refute it.
So that they can stand up firmly against this false Theory. of of evolution.
So we cover the standard.
Well we don't cover we don't cover We don't cover it the way Uh public schools would cover it. Does that make sense? Yeah, it certainly does.
Some years ago. I had, you know, when it well, it was when the the internet really started You know, making its way into the school libraries. And I had. three ladies, and these ladies They were all were random libraries. They were all the Uh I g I guess you would call I don't know the the president or whatever the of the public three different public libraries and what had happened is they had had a group they formed a group to to make sure that children didn't have access on these computers.
to pornography. And but because of that they had been lost their jobs. And um So I don't know, what do you what do you call the the the head of a a library librarian? Uh Uh What do you call them, those that are at the head librarian? I guess the head librarian, right?
Well, yeah, we'll go with that. All right, yeah. But anyhow, They had all and and so they came and And you know to this day I'm al almost computer illiterate to this very day myself, but They wanted to show they showed me how easy it was. To you know, because these computers to me were very complicated, but and they said, Here. Give us a word that a ten year old boy would use.
Um and of course, you know that that word is the one That um The feminists used for their caps that they had, their pink caps they had, Uh but anyhow So they said, look. And they they type just that one word in and there were something like thirty four hundred. Pictures, okay, of a woman's private parts. They said that's all these boys had to do to make to get access to this. And they were told to let them do that in these in these in the where we're talking about public libraries.
And of course. We know what was happening in s in the school libraries. That that was taking place. That is one of the things that we really have to crack down on. One of the things you want to.
that that Christian schools keep keep their children away from. And um Go ahead. the what's called filtering the content. Yeah.
Not not quite every day, but but every few days, you would have to tweak your filter. because the either the content providers Or the kids would try to find a way around it.
So you're constantly patching. the holes to prevent access. with this kind of content. But it's it's a fight worth fighting to protect our kids. Absolutely.
Tell the folks how they can get many people out there listening to you say, Well, you know what? Uh maybe our church would like to get involved. Maybe our church wants w would like to to start a a Christian school. How can they get in touch with you? Sure.
Our website for the Ohio Christian Education Network is pretty simple. It's O C E N. O C E N And on it you'll find Um A little bit about um about us as leaders of the network You'll find a little bit about the school planting. We also run a scholarship granting organization. that allows people to To donate to Christian schools to help.
students further defray the cost of quality person education. And so we're we're we're few in number. But we love what we're doing and and we're just passionate about uh giving kids access. to a quality price centered education. Oh.
Go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, there's O C E N And if you want to learn more about our parent organization, the Center for Christian Virtues. That is CCV.org. Ccv dot org. Who is the uh the uh Um head of that for Ohio, for the State of Ohio.
Yeah, our president is Aaron Baer. Yep, there you go. I've had him on the radio program. That's what I was trying to think of. Yeah.
Yeah.
He is phenomenal. I really appreciate his wisdom, his passion, and his leadership.
Alrighty, well, listen, I want to appreciate you being here with me tonight. And keep in touch. Let me know. you know, what you're happening if you guys oh, by the way, tell tell them what's coming up at the end of the month. Um Well, it depends on what you're talking about 'cause there's a lot of things going on my calendar for the end of the month.
All right. I Chris Lightfoot had contacted me about something that was taking place in Akron. Oh, yes, the Herzog Summit. Yeah, the Herzog Foundation out of Missouri, Smithville, Missouri. is coming to Help energize Christian school planting here in Ohio.
I've gone out and and uh it was about a year ago, I spoke at their uh Um their conference on school planting. Uh and they're coming out. Uh Their president's coming out, Darryl Jones. And there'll be a track for pastors, there'll be a track for Christian educators. And I will be presenting during that time to talk a little more detail about how to go from an idea To starting a Christian school.
And so over the past couple of years, we've been developing resources and protocols. They make it easy Um to kind of partner together, to walk together to to start a Christian school. in a church or in a community. And so, yeah, that that event's coming out now. My next couple of weeks are celebrating the opening of new Christian schools.
around Ohio. And so I was spending a lot of time driving, but I'm looking forward to it to see the joy on the kids' faces. I'm out of t I'm out of time for this seventh. I want to thank you for being here. And um Yeah, again, keep us in touch with what's going on if you need announcements made.
I was look get in touch with me, but I'm I'm coming up to the heart break, but again, thanks for being here. And my pleasure. We'll be back right after this. Don't go away. More to come.
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