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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left, the voice of the Christian Resistance on this 10th day of June 2025. And tonight my illustrious co-host and producer is none other than Style. Hey, Style. Hey, Pastor.
Are you there, Style? Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Just barely. It's not happening.
It's not going to happen to us tonight, is it? All right. Anyhow, and tonight my special guest is Linda O'Brien. Are you there, Linda?
I am, Pastor. Okay. Am I coming in loud and clear to you?
Yes, I can hear you perfectly. All right. Very good. I got to make sure.
We've had recently a lot of gremlins in the works here, but anyhow, we're going to get started tonight. The message, the title of the message this week was his song of songs, his song of songs. And we're going to start with a song of Solomon now. Did you know, Linda, that Solomon was said to have written over a thousand songs?
I remember here reading that at some point, yes. And so this was his song of songs. This was the number one. And this song was written very early in his reign, long, long, long before he had many wives, before his many wives turned his life away from his first love to devotion first to the Lord and then to his first wife, his bride of his youth, Neimah. And here she was, Solomon really loved Neimah.
So passionate. That's what this whole psalm is about. As we go through this, it goes back and forth, you know, verse, you know, one verse he's talking to him and next verse he's talking to her as we go through here. And it's interesting, too, because this is, you know, this is one of those messages that you hardly, hardly ever hear preached. Okay. A very few preachers in my lifetime.
The only one I think I've ever heard would have been J. Bernard McGee, I think, hit on Songs of Solomon. But it's one of those messages. And the reason is there's some parts of it that are a little bit risque, if you will. Well, I have to share with you that, you know, in preparation of talking with you about this, I went down and told the Matthew Henry commentary. And it actually says in there that at the time, the Jewish church, so to speak, you know, would not allow anybody to read this until they were 30.
Because they were so concerned about the fact that it was risque, as you said. Well, yeah, there's parts of it. But actually, you know, I mean, this is, you know, this is a message should be, you know, that you look upon in a natural way, only in a, in a way, as a husband and wife given to us the way, you know, it should be given to us. In other words, you know, today, you know, with our society, with all of what is going on with same-sex marriage and, you know, Saturday there in Cleveland, they had Sodomite Pride Day. And so, keeping that in the right perspective, you know, they're really, you know, it's in line. And we'll take a look at that. But again, it can be embarrassing for some. But anyhow, and other places, too, as we go through here, as Solomon compliments Nema, why, I'll tell you today, I mean, I would never use some of those compliments on my wife, I'd liable to get slapped.
But anyhow, here, so you take a look at that. Now, Solomon was just barely 20 years old when he got married to Nema. And, in fact, it was a year before he became king. And then, of course, he gave birth to Rehoboam. And Rehoboam, you know, Solomon reigned for 40 years, and then Rehoboam was 41 when he became king. And so, let's start here in verses 1 through 5. We see how Solomon tells the story of his love of the Shulamite maiden and himself appearing, you know, goes back and forth as they're speaking to each other, alternatively, as both the shepherd, and he's the shepherd and the king, all through here, the Solomon, the songs of Solomon, he's the shepherd and the king. Who else do you know that was both the shepherd and the king? David. David. Absolutely.
Let's start. Now, the song of songs, which is Solomon's, let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth, for thy love is better than wine. Obviously, that's Nema speaking to Solomon, about Solomon. Because of the savior of thy good ointment, thy name is as an ointment poured out, poured therefore, do the virgins love thee. Now, she's talking about the maidens of Israel, and she, three times in there, she gives the women, the maidens of Israel, a very clear notice that Solomon is her man, and she lets him know to stay away from him. Draw me, we will run after thee, the king hath brought me into his chambers, and will be glad and rejoice in thee.
He will remember thy love more than wine, and the upright love thee. I am black, but calmly, O you daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kadar, as the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me.
My mother's children were angry with me, they made me the keeper of the vineyard, but my own vineyard have I not kept. Now, she's not saying, Linda, that she's a negro. What she's saying, actually, she was like olive skin, the Shulamites. What she is saying is because she had to work out in the vineyards all the time, her skin has got a very, very deep tan. And so here, in my Bible here, Ernie, it says, I am dark but lovely. Well, anyhow, yeah, she was dark and lovely.
Okay, that's what you're saying here when she says, the word black means dark and the word calmly means lovely. And then she goes on to say, tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon, for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions? So, she's asking here, has anyone seen her man, seen Solomon? Now, again, remember, he goes back and forth. He's referred to as the shepherd and then he's referred to as the king.
Okay. So, Solomon was one, in fact, let me read verse eight. If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock and feed thy kids beside the shepherd's tents. Now, Solomon was one like his father, David, who was a shepherd before he was a king and he loved to spend a lot of time out in the fields with the sheep. In fact, that's where he met her.
That's where he met Naaman. And he goes on to say, I have, now see here, see now here's where women of today might not take such a compliment as in a positive way. He says, I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses. I mean, you probably, you know, someone says, you know, you look like a beautiful horse. You know, you might not take that as a compliment, right? But, see, in that time, remember with the horses and especially Pharaoh had the most beautiful teams of horses and, you know, people talked about, you know, that was one of their major things.
There used to be a saying, my mother was from Kentucky and her and her sisters used to say that Kentucky had the prettiest horses and the fastest women. And so, he goes on to say, thy cheeks, here you go again, thy cheeks are calmly with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains of gold. We will make the borders of gold with their studs of silver. He's just referring to making these beautiful ornaments. While the king set up that his table, my spikenerts sent it forth to smell thereof, a bundle of myrrh. Now, you're going to see some other things here that all through this, there's a story and the story is, the comparison is like a type of a shadow, a foreshadowing of Solomon being like the Lord Jesus Christ, okay?
And here, Nehemiah as being like the church of Jesus. And he goes, he says, a bundle of myrrh is my well beloved. Unto me, he shall lie all night between my breasts. My love is unto me as a cluster of camphor in the vineyard of Engedai. Behold, thou art fair, my love. Behold, thou art fair. Thou hast a dove's eyes. Now, I don't know if that's a compliment or not.
You know, dove's eyes are kind of small, very small, squinting, but anyhow. Behold, thou art fair, my beloved. Yea, pleasant. Also, our bed is green. You know what he's referring to about the bed being green there? He's making it a point that, in other words, they have a very good, you know, it's their sexual relationship that they're having, a very, very good and a fertile relationship. But going back to verse 14, he says, my beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphor. 32 times, 32 times in this book, he refers to him as her beloved. So now, here's Solomon, what he's doing here, he's replaying, again, God's intent for the lifelong union of husband and wife to be one in verse, as we look at verses 15 through 17. Behold, thou art fair, my beloved.
Yea, pleasant. Also, our bed is green. And the beams of our house are a cedar and rafters of fur. So he's talking about here how the relationship between a man and a woman, a husband and a wife, should be one that's physical, should be one that's emotional, and it should be one that's spiritual, too. And to be there, always to be there for each other. Now, here's where we kind of take a jump over to Hebrews chapter 13.
In Hebrews chapter 13 and verse 4, we read this. Marriage is honorable in all, okay, and the bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. So he's making a point that between a husband and a wife, in a monogamous relationship between one man and one woman, that the sexual act, okay, is honorable. However, you know, whatever sexual acts, you know, they have between the two of them, as long as it's only between a husband and a wife, only between a husband and a wife. Everything else is like, for example, you know, the Southern Baptist Church now, they have decided to make, as their the number one issue they're going to push, is to undo same-sex marriage, to get that the Supreme Court to reverse that ruling. And a good reason for that.
Can you hear me? Yeah, pastor, did you say that they are going to undo same-sex marriage? The Southern Baptist Church, this is, yeah, they have come out and they're going to push, they said, until they get the Supreme Court to undo it, to reverse it. So that's their goal. You know, you have some different goals out there, like, for example, the ACLU, the ACLU's number one goal is to legalize pedophilia. And that's their number one goal right now.
I mean, if it's a sin, they embrace it, okay? But here's, so now, so we're going to go, he's talking about the, between a husband and a wife only, that the marriage bed is undefiled. So we go back to where we left off, and here's, here's a verse two, one that you hear often misquoted.
And we go back to chapter two of Song of Solomons. I am the Rose of Sharon and the Lily of the Valley. Suffice was to say to you, who is the Rose of Sharon?
What would you say, Linda? I would say that that's his wife, you know, would be the Rose. But, well, you would be right. But today, today, people refer to, you know, the Lord Jesus is the Rose of Sharon and the songs that refers to him as the Rose of Sharon. But it's not, you're right.
It's not his name. Yeah, it's under beloved, you know, like the lily and the thorns, you know, but it's unusual, let's put it that way, to think of it that way, in today's way of thinking. So what she is saying here, she is saying that she is like two wildflowers. She's comparing herself to two wildflowers. And then he goes in the next verse, he compares her, he says no, as the Lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters. In other words, he's saying compared to the other women, to the other maidens there, she's like a beautiful flower and they're like thorns.
And so, and as you go through here, you'll see that she keeps giving a warning out to the daughters of Israel. Now she goes on and she's comparing him to the other men in the next verse here. In the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons.
I sat down under his shadow with great delight and his fruit was sweet to my taste. So now she is making a point here that him, you see an apple tree that bore good apples was, you know, was something of great value compared to a tree that was just made, you know, just for wood. And so, so she's comparing him as being, you know, high above the other men.
And then, of course, she's comparing their relationship, their physical relationship here. She goes on, well, pastor, if I may interrupt you, you know, an apple tree is, makes me think of all the way back to Genesis, was Adam and Eve. You know, we often, we often say that the apple, but we don't really know what that fruit was, that that fruit is not, it's really never mentioned, but you know, I mean, it could have been a peach or a plum, but, but we often compare it to the apple. And I really don't know where this started, except for in the sayings of an apple's having great value, a good apple, like the apple of my eye. And when, remember when Eve said the fruit was really good to look upon. And so that could be the foreshadow in there, the comparison.
But I get you, I see where you're coming from. This next verse, he says, he brought me to the banqueting house and his banner over me was love. Do you know what, what that means there when she says that, what the banner was? Yeah, he's talking about, can you talk more directly into the phone? Because if you, if you're not talking, I'm having a little hard time hearing you. Are we having a, okay. Linda, I gotta, yeah, I gotta warn you. The, we have been under attack like you would not believe.
Gremlin's trying to get into, I mean, things happening in the studio like you would never believe. Okay. But anyhow, here it says he brought me to the banqueting house and his banner over me was his love. In other words, you know, a banner is like, if you have a big banner and it's getting your message out, but the message was his behavior towards her in public was like a banner that everyone saw. Absolutely.
Absolutely. That's what it's saying. And so here she goes on when he's referring to stay me with flaggings, comfort me with apples for I am sick of love. Well, the flaggings there are actually, that's, that's raisin cakes. Those are, do you ever have a raisin cake?
No, but that's what my book says. There's cakes of raisins. Cakes of raisins. Well, yeah, well actually, you know, well we call them raisin cakes.
That's where they, uh, that was one of the favorite meals in those days, raisin cakes. And here, so he's talking about stay with me, the flag is raising cakes, comfort me with apples for I am sick of love. Well, that means sick of love means love sick. She's referring to, she was, uh, what do you, there's a word for that when, like when you were young, I remember, I remember as a young man, especially with some of my young friends, when they would fall in love with their first girlfriend and they would just become, they would sit around and just have a strange look on their face and thinking about that. And so, you know, I remember watching that, do you remember the little rascals?
I loved watching a little rascal. When Alfalfa, when Alfalfa fell in love with Darla, Darla, he just would, he was in a, in his love-sick stage. He goes on, yeah, uh, his left hand is under my head and his right hand doesn't embrace me. Then here she goes, she, she puts out another little warning. I charge you all you daughters of Jerusalem by the rows and by the hinds of the field. So he's talking about like little gazelles, if you will, and says that, that you stir not up nor awake my love till he pleased. In other words, don't, don't be bringing your love around her King. Okay.
In other words, you know, when he says till he plays, that's a reference to when they get married. So, and I'm going to stop right there and we'll be back right after this. I had this crazy dream about some folks who love this country, who all began to dream the same dream. And when the morning came, there arose across this nation, people thinking one and the same, and they all find their freedoms and all their liberties had gradually been taken away. And when they realized the danger to their posterity, I heard those patriotic people say, we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Remember golden days when the stars and stripes forever symbolized her glorious name, America.
But now it's all been changed. And when we gaze upon old glory, it's hard to fight back feelings of shame. We're fed up with lying politicians and greedy corporations who have sold us out time and again. And we're sick and tired of sending our soldiers off to wars that we were never meant to win. We want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore.
No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Now we know our cause is right and our victory's on the way. And we won't give up the fight till we hear 200 million say we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back and we ain't taking any more back.
We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore.
Not gonna take it anymore. We've been pushing back all along. We're standing, you know, we're the king's children and so we know what we're doing, right? And I got a lady on here with me tonight, Linda O'Brien, and she came up with this thing called Liberty Camp. Now, folks, I've been telling you about Liberty Camp but she can, well, she can explain it much better than I can and right now is a good time to get registered. Linda, tell us about Liberty Camp. All right, well, this is year 11 for Liberty Camp USA and it takes place in Lake County starting July 7th, the week of July 7th, and in Geauga County starting the week of July 21st. Registration is going very well.
Lake County has, I think, it's about 80 signed up and Geauga County has a hundred signed up. Now, that includes our what we call our young patriots and I'll get back and explain this in a minute but basically young patriots are our teenagers who come dressed in costumes because this is a reenactment camp. But here's, Ernie, this is what's so great about this. These youngsters that are in our junior reenactors, as I call them, many of them came up through the camp as time travelers, as young people, and they are now so committed and understand the importance of knowing the history of their country that they come back to help teach it. So, you know, that thrills me because, you know, when I was in school I wasn't the best history student.
By far, I wasn't the best history student because all we had to do is memorize dates and names and places so that we could pass a test and that to me was really boring. So, when at Liberty Camp USA, the kids come as time travelers and they pass through a portal and they meet General James. Now, General James is from the year 2076.
That would be the 300-year anniversary of our independence. He tells the kids that he has collected them to take them back in time to learn about the sacrifices and struggles that were experienced by the founders of this country so that they would better appreciate their liberty and fight for their freedom because by the year 2076, he said America was really in bad shape. So, the kids come and they're separated by groups. They're going into second through seventh come as time travelers and they rotate through six learning stations and so they sit with big-name heroes that, you know, everybody knows Washington, Madison, Jefferson. They also sit with Adam.
Well, we have Sam Adams, yes. They also sit with what I call the forgotten heroes. Now, these are people who really, if it hadn't been for them, we may not have earned our freedom like the regular General Francis Marion who, if you remember back in the day, Disney did a series on him called the Swamp Fox and that's what the British called him because they could never catch him. But so, the Swamp Fox is with us. It might be Nathaniel Green that's with us. This year, Daniel Boone is with us. And Pastor, you remember when we were kids, Daniel Boone was a common point of discussion, but not so today.
He's really been forgotten and written off of most anything in history. So, Daniel Boone. Well, when you and I were kids, they had the series, both Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett and, you know, you had those songs that, you know, songs that were being played on the radio all the time. Davy, Davy Crockett and, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So, then there's one more category that the kids sit with and personally, this is one that I guess I should say that I made up, but it's what I call the unknown hero. And every year, I have individuals being portrayed as the unknown hero and these are true stories about people who contributed and helped win freedom, but they've never been written in a history book and they're never taught in school. And there's some amazing stories of people who did, I don't know, I don't know, people who did heroic things and some of them were common things, but the fact is, you know, they helped win the war.
I can give you just an example. Lydia Dower. Lydia was a seamstress and she would, her house was taken over by the red coats and so she had to take care of them and feed them and do their laundry and all, you know, etc. That was called the Quartering Act and she would listen in on the General's conversations in the evening with his troops and then she would write it on a piece of paper, put it on a coat button, cover it with cloth, sew it onto her boy's coat and then send him into the Continental Army and they knew to take the button and they then knew what the General was going to do next and it prevented him from being successful.
So, great stories like that, but that's the unknown heroes. But, you know, in today's society, you will turn on the TV and often hear them talk about our democracy. Well, we are not a democracy and at camp we teach the kids that the founders warned us not to be a democracy and so they learned that we are a constitutional republic and they know the difference and they understand how we vote democratically, but we are a government of representatives and we, the people, are supposed to be in charge. So, in a weak time, they learn more and understand it better than they learn in school after a couple years of American history. I mean, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, you know, we go through all of that, but we do it for one very specific reason. I believe that America needs the next great generation of American patriots, people who will stand up for their country and who understand that, and we teach this to the campers, that liberty comes from God, not from government, and that the way that you have freedom is through your faith and your virtue and so we teach the kids a different virtue every day and it's truth, vigilance, courage, perseverance, and valor, and on the day that valor is taught, people such as Patrick Henry or James Madison, these are the people that represent valor as we teach the children.
Valor is when you win through your influence, through your words and your presence, not with a gun or a sword. So, you know, we've been doing this for 11 years and we've taught almost 1,500 children, you know, as of now, and it's, you know, it's one of those things that it's something I love doing. It's a thing, it's a way that I give back. I will tell you, you know, we can't do it without some parent, you know, some adult volunteers and our team. We are really short on adult volunteers this year.
You know, it's hard getting adults, it's not hard getting campers, so if anyone that's listening out there would be interested in coming and experiencing liberty camp, you know, please call me, contact me, and, you know, we can talk about the options and the opportunities, because they're great, and all my adults say at the end, you know, how much they loved it, how much they learned, and they always ask me, can't you do this camp for adults, and, you know, so far I haven't done that. Let me just comment a little bit on that, because, you know, you have the costumes that they wore, the uniforms that they wore during the war for independence, and, boy, I'm going to tell you, all the old-timers, they just love getting in those costumes and playing that part. I mean, they really get into it sometimes, you know.
I think that they start believing that they are George Washington, yeah. I mean, you know, they're playing, and, you know, as adults we don't get to play much anymore, you know, so it's a relief and a fun time for them. It really is.
It absolutely is. I, you know, my schedule is so full. I've wanted to do that so many times if I could find a day off, you know, just one day to be a part of that, because, you know, of course, I've come to all of those, and I've been there when you've been doing this and watching, but I've never had the time where I could actually get involved and actually do it, but, again. I want your listeners to know, I mean, if you can't come and volunteer, at least come on the Friday afternoon of whichever week or both weeks that you want to attend, because on Friday at 1230 we have the Freedom Parade, and the kids have come marching in. Now, this year I'm giving every one of them the George Washington's first flag, and that is the flag that shows the evergreen, and it says, Appeal to Heaven, because we're teaching them the importance of prayer in terms of the element of faith that's required for freedom, so they all will get their Appeal to Heaven, and then as they come in, you know, and they get assembled, usually Patrick Henry will make the proclamation of freedom, and Sam Adams shares some wisdom with us.
I do a little bit of, you know, review, but the important thing is that I test the children in front of their family and friends, and I take them to a number of questions. You know, where does, where does, you know, liberty come from? What are the five virtues?
You know, what type of government is America built on? And so they have to answer these questions correctly, and then after they, then they always do, thankfully, but at the, after that they, they will sing to their parents, I'm proud to be an American, and it's hard for me to even say those words without getting choked up, because every time they do that, I'm crying, other people are crying, I mean, it's just so amazing, it's just so amazing and so touching to see these kids sing with their hearts, that I'm proud to be an American. Well, you know, you know, one of the things there was today, these heroes, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, they're not portrayed in the secular schoolbooks today as the heroes they really were. Oh, that's true, and they're also not portrayed as the men of faith that they were. So, Pastor, I'm combating that this year. I have created what I call faith trading cards, and so there's one for each of these primary heroes, and there, on there is either a prayer of theirs or a quote of theirs that, that speaks specifically to their faith. We talk about providence, we talk about faith, and then, of course, it's on the card, it has their name, and at the bottom of their quote is their actual, a copy of their actual signature, but the children are going to get six of those cards this year, in a very old-fashioned looking envelope, and I, you know, again, it's something for them to take home that will remind them, hopefully years from now, that our founders were not deists, they were not atheists, they were men of faith, and they were in, you know, they were blessed by the Lord, and it was given great wisdom and great courage to step out and stand against, you know, the tyranny of King George III. I've got a book right over here, right here, that shows you 100 pastors, 100 of them, that were leaders during the War of Independence. Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's 100 different pastors that led during that battle, and boy, I'm going to tell you, there's some very interesting stories in some of them. Oh, I would love to see that. All righty. I would love to look at that book. All righty. I will bring one to you. Great. So, Pastor, can I share with you something, you know, about one of my unknown heroes this year?
Yeah, go ahead. As a result of doing Liberty Camp, I was introduced or taken to a cemetery in Willoughby Hills, and this cemetery has had no work done on it for over two decades, and it is in shambles. When I'm talking, I'm telling you that headstones are laid on top of each other against trees, broken, I mean, it's a disaster. I have worked for over 18 months with the assistant attorney, a law person in Willoughby Hills, and he thinks it's a noble cause, but we can't get the mayor of Willoughby Hills to do anything.
We have a budget that we know we could restore the entire cemetery, put a fence around it, nameplate, everything, for $50,000, but here's what I did. In that cemetery, there's a Revolutionary War soldier. His name is Edward Halstead.
I started researching Edward Halstead, and it's not the easiest thing to do, and I had great help from a lady by the name of Cynthia Turk, who is the head of genealogy for Lake County. Well, Edward Halstead was a guard on the Hudson River. The Hudson River was like the pinnacle of where the activity was going on, and you had to know what the British were doing as they would come and go on that river, and they, of course, wanted to separate the north from the south by taking control of that river. They wanted to take over West Point. I mean, it was a real battle between Washington and the British there, but so Edward Halstead was a guard on that river, and this year, he is going to be one of my unknown heroes, and we've got a great kit laid out for him with spy glasses that are two feet in length and it's just going to be a fun thing for the kids. But again, who was Edward Halstead?
He's not in any history book, but what he contributed certainly was very vital to us being successful and winning that war. So I just think there's so many people, and that's what we say to the kids. I tell the kids all the time, you were born for such a time as this. You have a reason, a purpose, and there must be a plan for you to help keep America free. And so by the end of the week, they understand, you know, that they have work to do, that this freedom of theirs is not free, and maybe, you know, maybe with some near miracle and acting of God, maybe Mayor Hallam will change his mind and allow us to restore that cemetery because it certainly is worthy. And Edward Halstead's great-grandson died in the Civil War, and it took us 18 months to figure this out, but he's not actually laid there.
There's a plot map with his name on it, but he was found on a battlefield outside of D.C. and was taken to a local hospital and died, and he's actually interred, and he's actually in a veteran's cemetery, not Arlington, but it's right next to Arlington. So again, you know, there's so many people, and we all have our calling. We've been given an extraordinary country, but we just can't take it for granted, and we have to work to keep it free. And right now, you know as well as I do that there are many who would like to take this country down, and you know, we're faced right now with a lot of opposition and threats from a number of other countries around the world. As we said here right now, right now, here on the West Coast in California, there in Seattle and that, you have groups of communists, and these are anti-Christ communists, you know, there are no more democrats the way, democrats are democrats anymore, I call them democrats, they're communists, they're marxists, and pastor, you know the schools today are basically have been indoctrinating our children into marxism, which of course we all know is the first step toward communism, and so I've been, you know, I live now in Mentor because my grandchildren lived here, and so I've been going to the school board meetings for the last five years telling them, you know, stop this DEI, CRT, SEL, transgender stuff, get back to basics, because Mentor schools, their performance on state tests are terrible, the kids aren't reading at grade level, the math tests are ridiculously low, and so, you know, I'm not a person to complain and not do something about it, so this year there's three openings on the Mentor school board, and I have just put in my petition, and I'm running for school board in the Mentor schools, and I'm running with two wonderful men, Bob Izzo, who's a chief, he's the chief deputy for the Lake County Sheriff, and Don Schutz, who is a retired teacher and football coach, the three of us are running as a team, we hope to get on there as a team, and then when we're in majority, we want to make some real changes and take our schools back to classical teaching, you know, teaching that values virtue and builds character in children and teaches them to write their name in cursive for heaven's sakes, I mean, these poor kids can't even hardly print their names anymore, and identity theft is knocking at the door, not to mention the fact that, you know, the other issues that can come by not having your independent, you know, individual signature, so there's a lot to be done, and again, if your listeners have no people in Mentor or live in Mentor, please remember to vote for us come November, you know, we're calling it Team ISO for Izzo, Schutz, and O'Brien. Well, I'll have to have you back on, you know, around election time during the summer, and make sure that people get your message out there that they know, in fact, you could actually bring your two friends if you want, I can put all three of you on at some point, and it's worked in the past, we've helped to get school board members elected, you're right, we have to go right at them, especially now with what's happening out there today, this anti-Christ system that this communism, the children really need, because they're going to grow up, and I mean, very, very hostile, this is going to be a hostile summer, I told folks last October, I was telling them if if Trump wins this election, and like he should, if you know, too big to rig in November, come summer, they're going to, and because this is what all the chatter was, all the chatter, they had planned this thing out a long time ago, that they were going to try to burn the country down, and so we're in for a real battle, and we had to set the example, and boy, our children really could use the liberty camps right now. Well, and you know, Jesus told us in this world, you will have trouble, but I have overcome the world, so you know, just, you know, I remind myself of that frequently, because we have to stand strong, we know it's gonna, you know, that it's hard, we know that it's a challenge, and that it can get ugly, but that's okay, that, I mean, it's temporary, it's just, this is not our home, but we have the responsibility to do what needs to be done to maintain, you know, strength, and righteous, and noble, and lovely, and pure families, and leadership in the country, and just within ourselves, I mean, you know, it's a constant struggle, we fight against the flesh daily. Well, you're right, you know, the Bible's very clear, it makes it clear, you know, from Genesis to Revelation, God has expectations of us, we have obligations to Him, and He has raised us up to an obedience, that's the one thing He demands more than anything else, and that's obedience to His Word, and that's where we have to lead by example, huh?
Absolutely, yep. We're coming up to the break there, I want to thank you for being here, we gotta get you back, I know you've got a big day tomorrow, and you need that beauty sleep. Well, I certainly could use some beauty sleep, but thank you for having me on, I really appreciate it, Pastor, it's always wonderful to have these discussions with you. Well, God bless, and you've got an open invitation to come sit with me anytime. Thank you, I look forward to that book, I want to see what that book says about the pastors, and again, God bless you, Pastor, I'm so happy that you're doing well and continuing on like this, because that's why you're here, this is what God wants you to do. God bless you, all that right back at you, and I'm coming up to a heartbreak, so get a good night's sleep, and I'll see you soon with that book, you know, get with me tomorrow, we'll set up a time to meet. Okay, great, good night. God bless you, good night, be back right after this with a whole lot more, don't go away, more to come. Thank you. Stay tuned, the second hour is coming up next.
