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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 11th day, 11th day of April 2025. And indeed this is the voice of the Christian resistance. And tonight our highly capable, highly capable programmer, producer is none other than who's there.
Uh, Seth, hello. I knew it! You're kind of capable, we'll just say that. Highly capable. I thought I'd throw that at you.
Thank you. And you know who else we have out there? He's highly acclaimed and he's a very distinguished co-host on Friday night. And he was the co-founder of Cops for Christ International and, well, he's written a lot of books.
But more than that, he loves my songs. None other than John McTernan. That's one of the best, Ernie.
God bless you, all our listeners, and may we have a blessed, blessed show tonight. Alrighty, okay. I do. Didn't I tell you, you sound, I thought you were Johnny Cash. Didn't I say that? Yeah.
But you waited until he'd been dead for a long time, and you said that I looked like him. No. No. Yeah. You know, a lot of people say that.
Some of my songs there. I hear that train a comin', now it's comin' round the bend. Or, don't fall into that burnin' lake of fire, right? Anyhow, we have a lot to cover. We better get at it, because we got more to cover than we have airtime tonight to do it.
So, let's get right at it. The title of the message was The Unceiling is Now. Do you understand? We talked about, we started in Daniel chapter 12, and verses 1 through 4, and we took a look at what the tribulation period, the coming tribulation period, the nation of Israel, Michael the archangel, the prince of Israel, and then we took a look at the resurrection of the saved and the resurrection of the dead, and we saw how there was gonna be a thousand years in between the first resurrection and the second resurrection. And then, we went from the rapture of the church, and we took a look at that, and then we took a look at the rapture of the tribulation saints. So, tonight we're gonna finish up, John, in here, as we finish the white throne judgment, in Revelation 20, verses 11 through 15. And so, you want to take it, let's take them verse by verse, okay? So.
Okay, I'm ready. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whom the face, whose face the earth and the heavens fled away, and there was found no place for them. And so, here now, you know, we're talking about, Peter talks about the heavens when they fled away. Here, so, when the fire from heaven falls on the host, and remember, Gog and Magog, it's gonna burn them all up! It's gonna burn up the earth, and the atmospheric heaven is well fulfilling the prophecy of 2 Peter.
Let's see, what was this? 2 Peter chapter 3, I believe it was, verse 10, he talks about it's gonna purge the earth from all the, well, age-long effects of God's curse. And so, and still, and you know, here, remember, when they referred to that all of the, well, we'll pick up on that later, but let's go to verse, when he says the dead. Here, the dead here are the unsaved, when he refers to, and I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God.
Okay, so here are the unsaved dead, their bodies have been raised in the second resurrection, in order to stand before God in the judgment. Now, do you think that that will include, okay, well, let me see, my thoughts on this, there's so many things involved here, but anyhow, he said, I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God, and the books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life. Now, besides, you know, the 66 books we have in the canon, the Bible speaks of seven other books, and one of those books that people confuse is the book of life and the book of the living, they're two different books. And here, when he says, and the books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life, and the dead were judged out of these things, which were written in the book according to the works.
Let me ask you a question, because I hear tell that you're a pretty smart guy. Let me ask you this, as we know the book of the living, remember King David asked not to be blotted out, this simply meant that when you were blotted out of the book of the living, you know, you ceased to live, you would die. But here the book of life is talking about eternal life. The question is this, and this is a question that a lot of Bible scholars have been asking. Do you think that everybody was originally written in the book of life, and then those, their names were blotted out?
What do you think? Well, Pastor Ernie, that's a really interesting question, and I just want to say something before I get into that question. I personally believe that the book of life is the Bible, and that in heaven there are many, many dimensions, way more than here, and that all our, the Bible, now stay with me on this, the Bible will, every person's name will be in the Bible, Pastor Ernie, because what happens to the Bible, there's no mention of it. Like, we got the Word of God now, Jesus is the living Word, what happens to the Bible after we go to be in heaven with him? So I think that the book of life is the Bible, Pastor Ernie. Well, in a sense we know that when it talks about the believers, when it talks about believers, it talks about those whose names are written, in that sense we all are in God's Word, the Bible.
Yes, exactly. At least the King, we're in the King James Bible, I wouldn't say much for the perversion. Well, you know, Pastor Ernie, that's what you said is absolutely true, because the new, these modern translations, how much is missing compared to the King James? I mean, it's like the whole book of Ephesians has been missing, it's take paragraphs taken out, sentences taken out, words taken out. So yeah, what you're saying is true, these modern translations are missing so much of the Word of God. You know, it's an amazing thing to me, John, because I know a number, as you do too, of theologians, Bible teachers, that know this, they know this, and still they'll teach out of those New Age perversions.
I think it's pride because they're scholars. The average person doesn't do that, Pastor Ernie, it's the scholars' pride, knowledge puppets up, and they think that they know what is the Bible, Pastor Ernie. See, me and you, we receive the King James by faith, by faith, and by faith, you know, the authors of the King James, they use the Jewish manuscripts for the old, the Hebrew manuscripts for the Old Testament.
They accepted that. The new... Maseratic text, yeah. The Maseratic text. But these scholars come along and they say that they know what is the Word of God, they know it intellectually. So they use inferior manuscripts against the manuscripts that were received by faith by the translators of the King James. So it's their pride, Pastor Ernie, it's their pride pitted against receiving the Bible by faith. Well, those translators of the King James were the top theologians of their days, but those guys, they had an impetus. They knew when the King says, get it right, don't let there be any errors, I want no errors, they knew that their head was on the line because you didn't.
This was very, very important. The one thing you didn't mess up was the Word of God. But you know, I've studied the manuscripts and I've studied that for years, and in every single way there is the King James Bible is superior. I mean, by far.
I mean, not just a little by far, okay? Superior to all of those out there, and again, you know, I could... You know my background, and I spent an enormous amount of time years ago debating rabbis, anti-Judaisms, anti-missionaries, Muslim apologists, you name it. And I used the King James, and it never, ever let me down, Pastor Ernie, never. And I watched NIV preachers take on the, we'll say the rabbis, they got eaten alive, Pastor Ernie. It was scary to see how the NIV could not stand up against like Muslim apologists and Judaism's apologists, but the King James, I had no problem with it.
No problem standing with it, using it, never could they get to me like they could get to the NIV preachers. Well, they've removed 64,000 words out of the, from the King James, and the NIV has got 64,000 less words than the King James Bible. That is a lot, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, and I'll just share this quickly. With the King James, one of the things that the Muslim and the Jewish apologists know about, excuse me, about the NIV, see in the King James, it says that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God. But in these other translations, he says, they say he's God's one and only son, and they use that saying that, no, that's error, because you are, Jesus Christ is not the one and only Son, because we're also the Son of God.
Now that's through adoption. So they say, and then these scholars that are debating the rabbis try and go into the Hebrew, and they try, I mean the Greek, and they try and go into this, and they can't defend the NIV because Jesus Christ is in their Bible, or their, not Bible, their book, he's not the only begotten Son of God. I had no problem debating them, standing on, he's the only begotten Son of God, and that we are the adopted Son of God, the sons of God. So I don't want to take up too much time, but did you see how I'm presenting this, Pastor Ernie, because I want all listeners to understand this.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know what you're saying here, when it comes to that, recently Paula White had come out and announced it, that Jesus Christ was not the only begotten Son of God. That's an error. Of course, she also had a lot of criticism from the Apostle Paul, but the whole Word of Faith movement believes that Jesus was not the only begotten Word of God, and the only begotten Son of God, rather. Yeah, well they can't say that using the King James, so that's just a word, that's proof that they're not using it.
I know. They've used these modern translations. No, he is the only begotten Son of God, and that's what our faith is built upon. My faith is based upon that Jesus Christ is the holy, sinless, only begotten Son of God. God didn't give us a hundred different versions. He gave us one, and there's one that stands out way, way, way above all the others, and that's God's Word, the King James Bible.
But let me get into this, because now we're running a little late. Let me and he says here, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. The books were opened, another book was opened, which was the book of life, and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books according to their works. And of course, you know, under those that die without Christ, they die under the law. They're judged by the law, and then the Bible says what comes according to their works. Now, while here, when they're judged according to the works, they've got to be sent to hell.
They've got to be sent to hell for... The Bible says there is none righteous, no, not one. Now, we're talking about apart from Christ, okay? There's none righteous, no, not one. By the deeds of the law there shall be no flesh justified in his sight. Romans 3, verses 10 and 20. Now, that's because what?
They've either rejected or ignored God's grace and Christ's infinite love for their dying and dying for their sins. So here he goes on to say, And the sea gave up... Can I add a verse? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
It is 3-5. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost. We need a new nature put in us, Pastor Ernie. We have a sin nature. So when we need to be born again, as John said in John chapter 3, born again means we have our nature is dead, our sin nature is dead, and we have the new nature of Jesus Christ placed in us. That's the renewing of the washing of the Holy Spirit. Works can never renew us, never.
I hear you. That's why by works you could never have eternal life. Let your works, they're not counted for anything apart from Christ. Now, faith without works is dead. I mean, works are the evidence of faith, but apart from Christ they don't count for anything.
Exactly. Then he says this in verse 13, And the sea gave up the dead which were in it. Now, I want you to think about that, John, because the time of the flood, the population of the earth was about what it is right now.
Most of the estimates by your Bible scholars out there today and even geologists would tell you that the population of the earth was about 8 billion people at that time. So just think about how many were in the sea. The sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them. Now, when you had death and hell, often we see death as often synonymous with the grave.
We talk about that over in 1 Corinthians 15, where dead bodies are confined, whereas hell, the word there in the Greek is Hades, is the place where the souls of the dead are confined. Of course, huge multitudes of dead were in the sea. Just think about all those that went to the sea. I know that in some countries and amongst some people that when they cremate, I know that even the barbarians and a lot of these people there, these Norwegian people, when they cremated their relatives, they cast their ashes to the sea with some kind of a custom. But anyhow, so just think about how many people that the sea gave up.
It's got to be amazing, right? Oh yeah, that's very, I mean with the great flood there's, you know, billions. And then it goes on to say, and the death and hell were cast into the lake of fire, this is the second death. So what happens here, those that were again in the sea, those that were in the air, the net, they were resurrected. They're resurrected, so they're given a body again. They're given a body, and then they're cast into the lake of fire, so where they're going to die again. This is the second death. Now, question is, because a lot of, most of your Bible scholars believe that this is a continuous, it's a continuous act of dying, a continuous act of dying.
What do you think? I absolutely believe that, Pastor Ernie. We have an eternal body that never dies because ours is exactly like Jesus Christ, empowered by the Holy Spirit forever. They have a body that is continually dying because they do not have the Holy Spirit in them. They don't have a body like Jesus Christ, so yes, both are eternal. So while the believers will have a continuously forever, continuously living, those that are in death and hell, they'll be continuously dying forever. Yeah, it's not soul sleep as some promoted, you don't exist anymore, like, no, it's an eternal body that is eternally dying. Yes, yes, they base that whole soul sleep doctrine on just one verse in Scripture. Well, I'm going to tell you, I don't know how you can really go there, where it talks about the torment, and the smoke of your torment goes up forever and ever, and then if you read over in Mark, very quickly, I just want to jump over to the book of Mark real fast here, and read the Mark 9, where the Lord Jesus said, And if the hand offends, they cut it off, it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands, and go into hell, unto the fire that never shall be quenched, where the worm dieth not, and the fire is quenched not. Well, that kind of says it pretty clear, huh?
Absolutely, it's not symbolic or anything like that, it's literal. Yep, the spoke of their torment rises up forever and ever. We better stop right there, I got a couple quick announcements to make. One is that, where'd my announcements go here?
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It's information that the opposition does not want you to have. It's all the stuff that, and, and many, many people make copies of that, which is good, and they, and they pass them out. In fact, we, when we did that thing with the religious exemption on taking the COVID shot, a lot of people made a lot of copies, passed them out, and we got a tremendous response where people, they took those to their employees and their employees let them stay there without taking the, the kill shot. We'll be back right after this. I had this crazy dream about some folks who love this country, who all began to dream the same dream. And when the morning came, there arose across this nation, people thinking one and the same. And they all find their freedoms and all their liberties had gradually been taken away. And when they realized the danger to their posterity, I heard those patriotic people say, we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Remember golden days when the stars and stripes forever symbolized her glorious name, America.
But now it's all been changed. And when we gaze upon glory, it's hard to fight back feelings of shame. We're fed up with lying politicians and greedy corporations who have sold us out time and again. And we're sick and tired of sending our soldiers off to wars that we were never meant to win. We want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore.
No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Now we know our cause is right and our victory's on the way. And we won't give up the fight till we hear 200 million say, we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back. And we ain't taking anymore back.
We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore.
You hear that, Matt Hoffman? We want House Bill 12 and House Bill 112 passed. We want it brought to the floor for a vote or I'm gonna turn Stephanie's stock loose on you. And we have Stephanie from Ohio who advocates for medical freedom.
We want our freedom, our medical freedom. Hey, Stephanie. Hi there. Do you feel like you just had me on?
Not sick of me yet, I guess. No, listen. Say hi to John McKernan. Hi, John.
Thanks for having me on tonight. The topic, however, it's not medical freedom this time because as I told you guys a few days ago, none of the medical freedom amendments that we requested into the budget were accepted by Huffman and Stewart. So we have to carry on, you know, the regular pathway for our legislation.
But Wednesday was a crazy day. Are you guys both familiar with the $600 million Brown Stadium bond? Oh yeah, we've been seeing about that. I understand that passed, right? That passed, but how it happened was really crazy.
So Huffman strikes again, like we didn't need another reason to be upset with him. But what happened was, and you guys know a little bit about it, it's the bond, they'd have to pay back the bonds, but the catch is if something happens and they don't make the tax revenue that they think they're going to make, then the taxpayers could be on the hook for up to $550 million, right? And they pulled Ohioans and 80% of Ohioans did not want it in the budget. So that alone should have said, okay, we're not going to do it.
Even if they tried to come up with fancy reasons to keep it, if 80% of the voters don't want it, you need to not do it because you're there to represent the people, not yourselves or your own interests or patting your billionaire buddies on the back or whatever. We already have a stadium. We already have a stadium. You're already losing in the current one. Can't you just keep raving about?
I know I'm so bad. I'm not really a sports person. I don't really have time for it, but I know there's a lot of people that are brown fans and some that are like, eh. But what happened was there were some conservatives that were like, listen, we're not going to take this. Voters don't want it. We don't care if Huffman wants it.
The people don't want it. So they had a plan to try to get removed from the budget with an amendment. But here's the catch. Here's where Huffman, you know, here's what Huffman comes in with the catch. So Huffman has a rule, House rule that says if you can't amend one section of a bill type. So they found out some of the conservatives are going to try to get this $6 billion bonds out of the budget. So what he did was he called on Representative Stewart.
Oh, there's that name again. Called on him to put forward his own amendment that was regarding that section of the bill. And what happened was originally they only had to put up front $35 million and he increased it to $50 million, right? So they voted on that. And then once they voted on that, when Ron requested the removal of the bond, Huffman called the rule out of order, because it was amending the same section. So basically what he did was he took a rule, he got his buddy to stand up and protect his pet project so they can tell Ron Ferguson that his amendment to remove it was out of order. Total shenanigans. Then Rep Gross tries to stand up just to speak against the bond, just to get the word out of why they were against it. He won't acknowledge her on the floor.
One of the strongest, if not the strongest conservative down there. I mean, this was insane. Then Representative Brennan stood up and he requested to amend Stewart's amendment because he couldn't request an amendment for the bond directly. So he requested to amend Stewart's amendment. Then Huffman cuts off his mic because this is during, you know, I'm watching this live, House session live. He cuts off his mic, there's this long pause, and then he says he's calling for a short recess. And then they come back from recess. He calls that guy's amendment out of order. Are we seeing a pattern yet?
I mean, this is crazy. Then the next thing that happens is, you guys remember the previous House Speaker, Jason Stevens, right? He attempts to stand up multiple times.
Somebody told me it was 10, 11 times. He tries to stand up to be acknowledged because he has an amendment to give tax cuts for every Ohioan. So what that one was going to do was I think the current tax level is anybody making under $25,000 a year didn't pay taxes. Well, he raised it to anybody $30,000 a member didn't have to pay taxes. And then he had tax cuts in all of the brackets over $30,000. He was refused to be acknowledged.
So we didn't get tax cuts in the budget. Thank you, Huffman. I mean, this was crazy. If you guys have any questions about the first part, I'll take questions. And then I can tell you about the next thing that happened.
Do you guys have any questions about how that went down? Well, that's why you're here. Go ahead. Okay.
Okay. So then after that, of course, all the conservatives are really upset, because they wanted to get that out. So Representative Ferguson comes out again with a second amendment. Now this amendment would have removed a section in the budget that allowed tax payer back stadium infrastructure loans. So this was separate than the bond, the bond thing is a different path, different path and that had to be approved by the legislature. This provision would have made it so direct tax payer back loans would be able to go for stadium infrastructure. So any any stadium that that which means anything that surrounds the stadium, so when they build a stadium, they have to change out the roads, the plumbing, electric, whatever, right? So this is loans to do all of that stuff, but it's but taxpayer loans. And so that and that is done through a governor appointed director of development. So they're the ones that decide if the stadiums get these taxpayer funded loans. So it completely bypasses the House or the Senate members. So he wanted to get rid of that because it would have prevented other like, you know, now they're saying Cincinnati, Bengals wants money, some other sports to put another up, they all want to dip into the into the pot now, right?
Because they know, oh, the Browns are getting something we want something. So he introduces that. Then Marilyn john stands up because of course, husband's mad because he doesn't want this mess with either. So she gets up and says, let's table this amendment. Let's vote to table the amendment, meaning we're going to vote to not vote on taking Ron Ferguson's amendment.
I know it gets confusing. And so they take the vote, and it's a tie. I mean, this is crazy. So when it's a tie, then you're forced to vote on the amendment. So then it but then everybody was confused, because it was like crazy kind of report.
What's going on? They've got all these amendments, all these things have already been struck down. So they took the vote. And this was a vote. The vote for Ron's amendment meant they were going to not adopt the ability for these these taxpayer funded loans for stadium. So I so a yes vote meant yes on Ron's amendment we won't be doing we won't be doing this one.
So we had 49 we had we had a 50 nos and 49 yeses. We lost by one vote. And then a few of the reps are like, Oh, my gosh, we just messed up.
We didn't vote the right way. So since then representative bar course, he says, Okay, I we got to change this because there's a there is a pathway you can take if you if you voted incorrectly, and your vote would have changed the final outcome of whether something passed, you can go file with the clerk for a motion is a motion to revote basically. So, so Kim goes down for this motion to revote because he and a couple other members want to change their vote to a yes and pass the amendment. Well, the clerk has to notify the speaker when that happens.
The speaker is not blind to this. So far horse goes back to his seat. He stands up to give this motion to reconsider so they can call the vote again.
And they have enough votes now to actually pass Ferguson's amendment. And he won't acknowledge him on the floor. And then instead he calls Oh my gosh, guess who he calls Stewart. So he has Stewart stand up there gives a little mini speech calls the vote on the budget and both budgets on gone and done and now it's going to go. So I mean, the amount of shenanigans that goes on down there, not only do they ignore the voice of the people, they ignore the representatives that are standing up for the people.
I mean, it was terrible to watch. And we need to, this is not my issue, of course, because the medical freedom is like my primary. Yeah, we need to tell Stephanie, some of the listeners out there because you know, we're coast to coast. And so they have to understand that what we have, we have majority Republican majority in the House and the Senate by far, but we have a number of rhinos. And the rhinos have managed what they've done. These democrats ran as republicans got elected because people didn't vet them, they just looked and they, they saw the R behind their name. And they're a lot of out of state money, a lot of out of state money came into Ohio to help get these rhinos elected.
And then so they're really Democrats, but even though they have an R behind their name, the Democrats all vote, vote with them. And that's why we keep losing these things here. And we try to warn people. I really, really try to warn people about what was going on there. And well, now they know. But go ahead and pick it up where you left off.
No, so I was just, I mean, that's, I just basically wanted to kind of walk you guys through the process. I mean, and this is, you know, this is the budget, of course, but this is the kind of stuff that goes on. Like whether they're killing a medical freedom bill, rewriting it, whether it's the budget, you know, or it's a gun bill, whatever. This is the kind of stuff that goes on in Columbus. And what happens is they think they can get away with this stuff, because they think that the voters aren't paying attention. And so that's why I'm always trying to sound the alarm.
And I'm sure that those guys love me down there for doing this. But it needs to be done, because there has to be a bridge between the politicians and the grassroots, letting people know, what is your representative doing? I mean, they are supposed to be representing us. So you know, it's our job, though, when they don't, to hold them accountable.
For that. So you know, what we have to do now is now we have to take it over to the Senate and be like, okay, Senate, are you going to ignore the people too? Or are you going to pull this thing out?
Because the voters don't want it. So it's now it's going to be on the You better start contacting the Senate right now, then, okay, and getting that word out. Yep, yep, yep. So of course, at the end of the day, the person in charge is always the leader, right?
So it'll be the it'll be the Senate president that will make the ultimate decision on whether they allow amendments or whatever. So that's going to be Rob McCauley. So that's the person that you're, you're going to want to call for saying, Hey, you see, tell me that name again, Rob. Rob McCauley.
Rob McCauley, I have it. I have his email and a phone number ready for you. Because I know Ernie that you have his number first. Give me Okay, give us his number first. So his phone number is Yeah, 144-666-8150. Okay, let's see.
I'll try that again. 466. Give me the rest of it. The area code is 614. And the number is 466-8150.
Okay. And then he has an email to you if somebody wants to send him an email. It's MCCOLLY at Ohio senate.gov. All right, well, we have most of the people out there will, they'll, they'll call.
And that that number is 614-466-8150. And yes, sir. Speaker Rob McKay.
It's the Senate President, Rob McCauley, Senate President. Okay. And they can tell him he's welcome to put the medical freedom amendments in if he wants to be a hero on that side. Alrighty, so we got around and pick up medical freedom.
There you go. All right, so tell the folks out there why it's so important to pass that medical freedom bill because what would that medical freedom bill do? It would give the doctors the freedom to go ahead and actually tell the truth and not have to worry about being fined or censured for saying what the big farmer doesn't want them to say. And how would that work with the, when you go into your pharmacies?
Yes, it would do that. That's free medical speech. Also make sure that when you go to fill a prescription that your doctor has given you that you consented to, that the pharmacist can't obstruct you from getting that prescription.
So those are the big key takeaways. That's for both inpatient and in the hospital and for outpatient pharmacies. So what kind of situations have we had? I know that when this whole COVID thing came along, they tried to stop you from getting ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, but we managed to get a good supply of it anyhow. But what other things would that apply to? So the bill will apply to any drug your doctor prescribes for you because you never know whether it's bird flu or whatever the next thing China throws at us. If they find a treatment that works and then they say, oh, we don't want to give them that treatment because if they gave you a treatment that works, then they can't give you an experimental vaccine, right? So we wanted to leave it very broad so that doctors could really treat patients again. So we didn't narrow it down to any particular drug. What we did was omit drugs that the bill wouldn't apply to. And those drugs will not apply to controlled substances. It will not apply to abortion drugs or puberty blockers or any drugs used for the purpose of euthanasia. So those drugs will, whatever is done with those drugs now, if however they're going to continue to be handled, the protections of this bill apply to any other drug but those drugs.
Okay, so what about some of these stores? We don't want them selling the RU-486. We don't want that, I know, especially giving it to these young girls in high school and that.
Oh, I know, it's terrible. Yeah, this bill's not going to allow that to happen because like I said, this bill will not apply to any abortifacient at all. So regular current law is going to be how that rolls but unfortunately we have that horrible amendment so I don't know that there's going to be a way for that to be restricted other than the pharmacist's decline for a moral or conscientious objection which is still protected under state law. But as far as this bill goes, it's not going to apply to those drugs.
We wanted to make sure this only applies to potentially life-saving drugs that people are trying to get to get well. Alright, one more time, we want to let the folks out there know, folks write this down, Senate President Rob McKay, that number is 614-466-8150. We want a medical freedom bill and we want it passed. Does that bill have a number yet?
Yeah, it's HB 12 and we already have an amendment drafted for that to be put in the budget so if Senator McCauley is willing to put that in the budget, we would be extremely grateful for that and we'd be happy to get him the proper amendment that it could go right into the budget that's already been drafted. Alright, very, very good. Alright, well I thank you. Listen, Stephanie, we're going to be moving on to some national news and things but you're welcome to stay with us if you'd like. Well, I've got my hubs waiting for me so I will go ahead and let you guys go. Keep up the good work for letting me get the word out what's going on here in Ohio.
Alright, well you've got an open forum whenever you need to get the word out, we're here. Alright, thank you so much, Ernie. You guys have a great night. You too. God bless. You too. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye. Alright, we're going to go back to big John Materna because he knows so much. Big John, tell us about some of the things that's happening out there tonight that we were talking about earlier. Well, Pastor Ernie, every day it's amazing what's going on and how there's things being revealed. So there's so many things here.
Let me narrow in on a couple of them. When Vice President Vance went to Greenland, what was it, last week. Yeah. Now, all of a sudden Greenland has become important, brought up by President Trump, and the reason it's important is it's strategic. There's oil there, there are all sorts of minerals there, and the Russians want it, and the Chinese are involved in it also. And it's dangerous with the Russians because they could move on it. They have an Arctic Navy there.
They could move on it, and really there's no way to defend it. So Vice President Vance went to Greenland. We have a military base there, and he spoke, and a couple days later, the general at the base, she wrote an email and sent it to everyone there at the base saying how troubled she was by what Vance said, and she knows that they feel troubled also. And she was trying to console him because of President Trump's policy about Greenland, and she was fired yesterday. She spoke openly against President Trump's policy.
He's the Commander in Chief, Vance Bernie. But what a relief it was to see insubordination like that dealt with instantly, and she's gone. Well, she should be court-martialed, you know, what she did. That's an insurrection. And here again, we know the importance, because you're right, it would take very little force to take that island of Greenland, okay? And it's good that we have a military base there, or if we didn't have that military base, they would have been gone a long time ago, huh?
Yeah. Who could stop Russia? That's Russia's, like, territory up there. So no one in the world could stop Russia.
Well, that's the relocation there. It's the power of the United States that stopped it, and Trump said he wants to make it like a protectorate, Pastor Ernie. Well, you know, what nation is it that, is it Denmark? What nation is it that supposedly comes under their protection? Yeah, it's Denmark, and I've read how this relationship between Denmark and Greenland, and it's kind of bizarre, I don't know.
After reading it, I still didn't understand it. Denmark's independent, but it's not independent. It's under Denmark's, Greenland is under Denmark's control, but it's independent. And so I don't fully understand it, but there's some legal connection between Denmark and Greenland. Well, do you know, well, see, Denmark is supposed to provide protection, military protection. Did you know that the New York Police Department, that New York, the city of New York has more police officers in it than Denmark has soldiers in their army?
So you brought up something else, Pastor Ernie. Germany, there's a big divide now between the United States and Europe, and NATO is in the middle of this, because Europe is fast coming under the New World Order. Pastor Ernie, it's blocking the rights of the people. It's becoming like a totalitarian, one nation, not all of them, but many, many nations in Europe. So the Germans want to act, and the British want to act separate from us, and they're really going to take Putin on. So the Germans said they're sending a mechanized brigade of 5,000 men to, I think it's Lithuania, to defend Lithuania against the Russians. And the British are going to send a brigade also, but the problem is neither one of them will be able to raise a brigade until 2027, Pastor Ernie. They totally rely on the United States for their defense. I know.
That's amazing. And we don't want to go down the road to war with Russia, so they're all upset now, and we're becoming the enemy now of Europe. They want to raise their own army. Yeah, we're coming up to a break. You know, to go to war with Russia, John, would have to be a nuclear worker. Russia's army is being depleted rapidly, but we'll be back right after this with a whole lot more to come, so don't go away. Big John's got a lot to tell you. All righty. Be right back.
