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All righty, we're back. You know, Mark Zuckerberg could be in big, big trouble, big John. Did you know? Yes, Pastor Ernie, and I believe it's treason because he was cooperating with Communist China using Facebook, or whatever he calls it, as like an espionage tool. And so, yeah, well, here there's Sarah Wynn Williams, who is a former Facebook executive. She testified Wednesday on explosive allegations the social media company's relationship with China and her prepared opening statement for a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Counterterrorism when Williams accused company founder Mark Zuckerberg of pledging himself as a free speech champion while working hand in glove with the Chinese Communist Party to construct and test custom-belt censorship tools that silenced and censored critics of the Chinese Communist Party. That's America. So when he was aiding and embedding the enemy, wasn't he? Yeah, Pastor Ernie, it's amazing how these people move on high levels, how they can sell out America in a heartbeat. They'll just sell us out. Wynn Williams, who worked for Facebook from 2011 to 2017 and served as director of the Global Public Policy, also claimed that the social media behemoth has been willing to capitulate to the Chinese government, including dealing with the accounts of a notable Chinese dissident living in the United States, and then lying about it in a Senate hearing in a statement to the Daily Signal, a spokesman for Metta Facebook's parent company said, Sarah, Wynn Williams' testimony is divorced from reality and riddled with false claims, while Mark Zuckerberg himself was publicly about our interest in offering our services in China.
The details were widely reported. Beginning over a decade ago, the fact is this, we do not operate on our services in China today. Zuckerberg's been going one way or the other. He jumps back and forth, right? He went from working hand in hand with the Communist Party, with the Communist Party here called Democrats, we call them Democrats, but they're the Communist Party, as a huge anti-Trumper, and then he switched over now and now he is wanting to make America great. So he's been jumping back and forth in this, hasn't he? He has, Pastor Ernie, and I think he's in big trouble because, you know, with Joe Biden, he could always cut a deal of some sort. With President Trump, I don't see this, and the Justice Department now, I mean, he can be in serious big trouble. Yeah.
Democrats, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I've been waiting to share this, Pastor Ernie, because it's really, this is a wonderful story. The Press Secretary, there's a news report out, and I'm looking at the pictures right now, where before she goes out to speak to the media, she has prayer.
So she's holding, it looks like she's holding hands with another, someone in the, you know, with the President's administration there, and they're praying just before she goes out to speak to the media. So that really touched me to see that, and compared to the one that was there before, I forget her name, but she was a lesbian. You remember the one for Joe Biden, remember? Oh yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, I can't remember her name, but she was a lesbian, and then here, Trump's Press Secretary is a godly woman praying before she goes out to speak. And she handles herself very well for a woman, a young woman her age. She's very articulate, and because when she goes out in front of the pack of wolves out there, and you know, it was funny, did you see on the Fox News, Steve Doocy's son, the one who the White House reporter that always give Biden, he always give Biden a hard time, but did you see how a bird kept landing on his head? Yes, I saw that. I wanted to nest, I wanted to nest in his head, in his head, in his hair there.
Yeah, that was, I bet not many can say that's happened to him there, but that was just amazing. Okay, alrighty. Democrats, John, are now saying that to prevent, by preventing voter fraud, you're making people racist. To prevent voter fraud is a racist thing, and they're actually saying that honest elections are anti-woman. If you have an honest and fair election, it's anti-woman and anti-college student, and so it's racist, anti-woman and anti-college student, because they're not always able to vote fairly, you know. In other words, legislation where you have to have an ID proof, and they say, well, a lot of these college kids left their ID at home, or, you know, one thing or the other, and I don't know why, or why women seem to have a hard time. It's an amazing thing, where the Democrats have come up with, huh?
Now... Anything, Pastor Ernie, they say anything to, they, I think that the, there's some strongholds that the Democrats are going to win, no matter what. You know, places in California, probably New York City, and things like that, but... Because they go by Joseph Stalin, by Joseph Stalin's technique, it's not who votes the council, who counts the votes. Exactly, exactly. So there are certain places, probably in Ohio, that if they can't steal the election, they can't win.
Cuyahoga County. Yeah, yeah, and you know, and well, I live in Pennsylvania here, and even, well, we went in Texas, but there are places in Texas that they steal. So without being able to steal elections, the Democrat Party would lose tremendous amount of seats in the House, and probably several seats in the Senate. So they must cheat to win. Well, sooner or later, that's going to be, people are leaving California left and right. Sooner or later, I mean, because there's more conservative people in California than you know about, that the problem of it is that the State House and the Senate are so corrupt, it's just filled with, from top to bottom, with corrupt people. And, you know, just, the entire Democratic Communist Party is completely corrupt, is completely. Anyhow, you know, Trump had another big win, you know, and that was, the Supreme Court said he can deport that Mahmoud Khalil. And so, you know, here, that's that guy that's anti-Israel, the one that was out there promoting, getting people agitated up to be anti-Semitic, go after the Jews. So that was a big win. Now in Colorado, which is a, you know, a very liberal state, they got a governor there that wants to ban all semi-automatic guns.
In other words, for you to own a semi-automatic gun, and most of those are all 9mm too, to do that, you have to take a 12-hour course, and it costs about $200 on gun ownership. And this is totally, what does the Second Amendment say, John, about taking courses and that? Are you still there? Did we lose John? John, are you there? Hello, can you hear me, Pastor? Yeah, I can hear you now. Hello. Yeah, John, are you there? Can you hear us? Yeah, I hear you clear. Hello. Yeah, well then you keep saying hello.
Right? Oh, yeah, I can hear you now, yes. Okay, very good. Okay. Anyhow, I was asking you, what does the Second Amendment say?
Does anything in the Second Amendment about having to take 12-hour courses on gun ownership and then spending $200 to take that course and then not to be able to own a semi-automatic rifle? No, it doesn't say anything like that, Pastor Ernie. It, um, it's basically... Okay, they're going after our phones again tonight, unfortunately. Hopefully, he, maybe he can reconnect. If you can hear me out there, John, try to reconnect because, uh, you, you, you, we, we dropped you again.
Okay. Anyhow, folks, the fake media is now on the echo chamber claiming that those on the right, now listen to this, because this is what they've been up there, they repeat it. It's just, it's the echo chamber, you turn to one station to the other, they'll repeat the exact same words. They're claiming that it's the conservative movement, those on the right, that are violent.
They're the ones that are violent, right? I mean, they're the ones that are setting... Are you, are you back? Yeah, Pastor Ernie, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, they're after us again tonight, aren't they? So, are you still there?
Yeah, I heard you the whole time, but you couldn't hear me. No. Anyhow, so now you hear the fake news media out there, they're saying that, uh, it's, they're, you know, and if you go, the echo chamber has, you know, is activated, they repeat the exact same words, they don't even try to hide it, and they're saying that it's those on the right, it's conservatives that are committing the violence, and that have become extreme, right? So I would imagine, are those conservatives that have been setting all the Teslas and fires? Well, that, that, their leftists, they're in the leftist, uh, what is the word for that, Pastor Ernie, you use it, uh, I can't...
The collective? The collective, right, so that doesn't count, uh, that, they get a free pass on it, Pastor Ernie. Yeah, so, uh, so it wasn't the conservatives that were burning down the cities out there, especially in, in Washington, and here.
Yeah, Seattle, and Portland, Oregon, and, you know, other cities. So that they, so then Antifa and Burn, Loot, and Murder aren't really conservatives at all, are they? Well, they're protected, they're protected, Pastor Ernie, they're part of the collective, so what they do is righteous and just and perfect. I mean, I think about all these stupid things, and this is why I call them Democrats, they're saying now, they came out, and you got, and they're again parroting the same things, but they're saying to have a level playing field where it comes to the tariffs, where reciprocal tariffs, that reciprocal tariffs, uh, are going to hurt our economy. In other words, by getting more money on a fair and level playing field with all these foreign countries, that's going to hurt our economy.
Uh, you know, just, it's amazing how, how blatant, blatantly stupid these people can be. And then, yeah, the more this goes on, the more stupid, I mean, literally stupid, and this thing with tariffs is only part of it, because I really didn't know much about tariffs till this whole thing busted open, but these many nations are subsidized in like their auto industry and other industries to keep industries, to keep the price lower so that they can get into our markets and sell a lot, because that keeps them employed, it keeps, you know, taxes on their part. And they, our workers can't compete against them because their cars are being subsidized by the government, their government. So Trump wants to address all of that.
They're putting like Detroit out of business by the tariffs and by subsidizing the price of their cars. So here now, if they, I mean, but haven't we done that too, to an extent here, like, uh, you know, with the chicken farmers, I mean, when they destroyed all those chickens, they got, they got paid for that by the government, uh, and, and the same thing with, uh, when they dumped the milk to keep the price of milk up, they were dumping that and, and how many times were, uh, did the government actually pay, I could never understand that, pay farmers not to grow food when, when there's famine in the world, where they would actually play, play, that's to keep the price up. Does that make sense to you? Well, some of it is, uh, legitimate. Like if they're ordering the farmers to kill all these chickens, then, uh, paying them for it is legitimate.
The other thing, I don't know what to say. I know, I know what you're saying about the farmers paying them not to, uh, plant crops. Yeah. Well, how do you explain that?
No, I don't, you know, it doesn't make sense when there's famine in the world when, um, and, and you're right, they've done that so often in the past. Switching, jumping over, you know, Trump took his physical today and he took a cognitive test, uh, and, and guess what his score was on the cognitive test? I saw he passed, but I don't know the score. 100%. He got 100%.
He maxed it. And so there you go. Trump signs orders to make America showers great.
That's right. President Trump signed an executive order billed as ending the Biden era war on water pressure. Uh, here, president Trump signs an executive order to end the over-regulation on water pressure and end the war on our showers.
Make America showers great again is the title of the article here by World News Daily. And it goes on, it's talking about what they've done to, uh, and what they've done to, uh, out there in California, especially they made them cut the water pressure down and Trump made them turn the water back on out there. So yeah, they were blocking water. I mean, it was, this is all staged in California, Pastor Ernie, they were actually blocking water going to Southern California. And then they're talking about water restrictions and you can't do this and you can't do that. And they have, they have all the water they need, uh, in the Northern part.
And they have the aqueducts to bring it down. We're all the Rivera praise president Donald Trump on news nation. Well, that's something here.
It's a switch there. As he said, Trump ambush and suckered China with his unpredictable tariff strategies. Trump announced a 90 day suspension of the reciprocal curves for all countries, except for China, which faces 125% increase leading to a surge in international markets.
Following the Wednesday announcements on truth, social and during an appearance on a news nation. Now a Rivera praise Trump's tariff tactics is brilliant maneuvering that strategically misled China and the global economy powers. Um, do you think, you know, it's pretty obvious that, that both Trump and Chi, that there's a lot of theater taking place here. Just a lot of theater. Do you think there's a lot of negotiations going on under, under these scenes that there's talking and this is just a lot of theater? What do you think?
Oh, I'm sure there is. There's so much at stake, but, um, the tariff thing with China, uh, like what I mentioned before, where they subsidize, um, their industries, they, uh, have, uh, other type of financial, all the, the, uh, suppress the value of their currency. And this is all to make them more favorable on the international market, which hurts us. It puts when they do that and other countries do the similar thing, our industries can't compete with it. And we lose industry here to other countries.
And then we ended up with our base here is weakening. We're not making, we're not producing here. We're becoming an importing nation and the debts get higher and higher. And Trump is trying to stop all that. So that's what he's doing with China. It's a little bit more than the, um, tariffs. It has to do about China's structure.
I would structure to undersell every, everything here in the United States. Yeah, it is. And they do a lot of it with slave labor, don't they?
That's the other thing. They absolutely, absolutely still have slave labor, uh, in China. A lot of it too. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's, um, and again, it's like the Democrats hate Trump and they hate America. They hate Trump and they hate America. You're exactly right.
And they hate us. Yeah. They, they, God, I think first and foremost, but, um, Rivera, where all the said, I believe that the ambushed China, I believe that he suckered the whole world into believing that he was going to go down on this, uh, Harakari, this, uh, this, uh, suicide mission against the world.
Rivera said, I think, I think with him, it's so much spontaneous, but I believe it involves, I mean, the way this thing is written is this thing is really written on, uh, Monday. So many people were feeling terrible pain. The markets were tanking, was no end in sight. People were watching their 401ks. Boy, a lot of people lost 401ks. Lots, a lot of money in their IRA is disappear, huh? When that happened, but they're bouncing back.
Yeah. This is a rough road to put us back into, uh, uh, the positive past for Ernie. Cause otherwise we're going to collapse with debt.
We're not producing anything that people want to buy or we're limited with every years go by, we're producing less and less that the nations want to buy from us and we'd be completely swallowed up in debt. That's where we're headed. Okay. You know what I think we're going to do? I think we'll open the phone lines and take some calls, Seth.
Uh, and, uh, the number is 8 8 8 6 7 7 9 6 7 3 8 8 8 6 7 7 9 6 7 3. What do you think, John? You think that, um, you know, there's all the chatter has it out there that Trump is going to try to reset the value of gold. I looked today, gold was up about 30 fact. It was a 30 $3,256.
The last I looked, I saw it and silver was up over, um, $32 an ounce. But, um, I'm hearing that the chatter says that they're looking to reset the value of gold, um, to maybe go as high, as high as 10,000 an ounce, you know, taking this thing towards the big com type of thing and then putting us back on the gold standard and, uh, having gold as the standard than having another, they're talking about, uh, getting rid of the federal reserve and going to bitcom. I don't know how in the world that could possibly work. I don't think that's, that's possible.
How you can do that. Okay. So what do you think about all that? Well, pastor Ernie, before discussing that, didn't, didn't, um, that those, that those there with most didn't say, um, audit the, uh, the goal reserve here in America.
Do you remember talk about that? There was a lot of talk about it and doing it, but I don't think they ever did. Or maybe they did it. They just haven't said anything. Right. That's it. They did it.
They did it. And there was no report. It was dead silence. That's not good.
We could believe if it was good, they would have been shouting it from the rooftop. But anyways, uh, this whole goal thing, I tell you what, it's over my head. I just, it's like, I wasn't really interested in tariffs till it broke out about tariffs now.
And I wasn't interested in Greenland until it broke out. There's certain things that, um, you know, you just, but now with the gold, I don't know what to say, pastor Ernie. I am a gold standard.
If we were still on the gold standard, because I remember vividly when Nixon took us off the gold standard. Do you remember that first earning? Yeah.
Yeah, I certainly do. And I can remember, uh, economists at that time says, uh, saying that, uh, we're going to greatly expand the economy, but this is dangerous and debt. It's going to build up debt and there could be problem with interest and all. And sure enough, it did come to pass when we were cut free from the gold standard, then, then, uh, the federal reserve could do what it wanted. So it's probably better to go back on the gold standard. Well, remember, that's what Kennedy wanted to do. He wanted to eliminate the federal reserve notes, get rid of that and go back to the U S treasury dollars.
And, um, and, and, you know, we saw what happened to him. Reagan wanted to do the same thing. Okay.
Now Trump is talking about doing the same thing. All right. Who do we have Seth? Okay. Let's go to JD in Dallas. JD you're in the air. Good evening, pastor.
Good evening. I saw one small article about, I believe it's eight former Soviet Republics and Russia and Ukraine starting their own currency and dumping the U S dollar. Have you heard anything more about that?
There's been a lot of that chatter going on around out there. Yeah. And we need to tell Ukraine, use your own money. You're not getting any U S dollars anymore. Well, uh, now all of a sudden Ukraine wants to renegotiate with Trump over those minerals. Um, but they want some, some other guarantees. And meanwhile, meanwhile, Russia came forward. Putin says, look, if you want rare earth minerals, you can deal with us. We've got rare earth minerals.
Okay. Uh, that's, that's a, that's an interesting situation there, but they got to stop that war. I mean, it's just unbelievable Russia today.
If we had to go to war with Russia, it would have to be nuclear because their, their army's being killed off. They've lost, they've lost almost over 700,000 soldiers. Yeah. They're being decimated by a small, much smaller country. Well, they lost about half that amount of Ukraine. So yeah, but it's because of the weapons that we've given them.
Yeah. This thing here about forming like a league with Russia and maybe with China and all, um, who in their right mind would get involved with the Russian, uh, uh, Drupal, I mean, and the Chinese wand, whatever it's called. I mean, they're unstable. They're, they're, they're, the Chinese money is all propped up. Their one is all propped up by the government. So it's not, it's not conducive to form leagues with Russia when Russia is, its economy is devastated. And who are you going to trust Putin? So the United States, it looks bad for the world to invest money in.
Yeah. The reason for that is the E the EU, their motion, they're going towards this one world government. They want this one world government to one world currency. Uh, and the nations that are saying, no, we're not, we're not going to be a part of, of that. Uh, that's, you know, that's the United States, Russia and China. So, and many others, many others, I mean, who do you in the European union without the United States, what are they? They're not, they're not a whole lot. Are they, I mean, they're combined. The isn't about the combined economy. I think of the entire European union is less than that of the United States.
Yeah. But so much of their economy depends upon us buying their cars and, and other things. So if, if that, if that breaks down, uh, there's a big tariff now on European cars coming in and they're not selling it. So what did they do? What do they do?
What do they do? They're all in a bind. They're going to open up, they're going to open up plants here and build the cars here.
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Hi Pastor, hi John. I heard today that the Supreme Court ruled unanimously against the Trump administration to bring back that illegal gang member from El Salvador because he wasn't given his due process. Is that true? Yeah, they ruled that he's got to bring him back. Now, there's a lot of questions, a lot of confusion on whether this guy was guilty. When he came here, they tried to deport him once before but it was said because of his relationship to the MS-13 and that to send him back, it would cost him his life. It would put him in danger. So anyhow, I don't know what the real story is. Two big stories on that. His family says one thing and of course the media says another but he was not supposedly, he was not supposed to have been in there. That was a mistake on Trump's, on our side, to have him in there. So, you know, I don't know.
It looks like we'll see what's going to happen but, you know, Trump, I mean, if you make a mistake, you should own up to it and bring him back but, you know, that they're not going to, they're going to want something big time to release him back. Right. Well, thank you for clarifying that. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Well, God bless you. Thank you. Let's go out to New York with Cliff.
Cliff, you're in the air. Yeah, hi. Just on this week, some of the stuff you're talking about. One, the bird flu.
I thought it was illuminating. Peter McCullough on his podcast about a week ago had a whole podcast about an outlaw with a farmer on the bird flu. That's called the McCullough Report podcast. One of the things he said is they're trying to jump the bird flu into the human population with game of function and bring across a so-called vaccine. But he said in 2021, a number of volunteers in a trial for a bird flu vaccine did die.
But you can listen to that. It's pretty informative. Another good episode was this week on the Sargent Reports that a woman, Julie Starr, that's talking about the artificial sweeteners, really a little bit, you could see what she had to say about the FDA. There's something that's harmless called stellia and they burned down some of the place in Texas where they had information about its usefulness.
What do you call it? That main one that Donald Rumsfeld was aspartame, how damaging that is. Originally, a guy was working on it as an ulcer drug.
It fell and he put it on his fingertip and noticed it was sweet. Now this aspartame is in a lot of items. It's not just soft drinks. She's talking about some of the deleterious effects with that, including that's how she originally found out about it. She was drinking a diet, Dr. Pepper, for about a year, was in perfect health and all of a sudden her health deteriorated.
She figured out that she's an environmental engineer and traced it to that. Psalm 44, it's talking about in terms of the imprecatory prayer, push down the enemies and then it says covering us with the shadow of death. What do you think about those two verses in Psalm 44?
Push down the enemies, that specific wording, push down. Psalm 44, let me check. That's Psalm 44.
That sounds like a perfect one for John McTurner. He wants to be clear on which two verses are those. Yeah, there's one that at the beginning of Psalm 44, it's talking about the Lord will push down the enemies, but that particular phrase, push down, and then later in the Psalm it talked about a possibility the Lord, he said, will cover us with the shadow of death. All right, so though we push down our enemies, though thy name will be tread under, and the rise that we will tread under them, that rise up against us. And so here, I think he's picking up on, this is kind of following, I believe it's the same thing it says over there in Psalm 42. And then the other verse, what was the other one? Was it, yeah, further on in that Psalm, it's talking about being covered individually with the shadows of death.
That's something the Lord will do. Okay. I'm trying to find it, but I can't make us reproach this.
I'm looking for the shame to hire this. I don't see that in there where it talks about covering us with the shadows of death. Yeah.
See, we're killed all the day long. Okay. I see it in verse 19.
Okay. Verse, thou has so broken us in the place of dragons and covered us with the shadow of death. Yeah, so these are simply prayers that he, you know, well, they're prayers for deliverance. This whole Psalm is a prayer for deliverance here. And it's the same thing if you go over to Psalm 42, uh, it starts out with us the very same way, uh, here. So it's just, that's that whole Psalm, there's a song for these asking God to deliver them from the hands of their enemies. Which involves being pushed down basically.
Yeah. But that, but it's interesting given that it's King, the King James version, it's just that phrase pushed down, uh, uh, you know, like as a phrase, do you have any thoughts on that push down as opposed to knock down or whatever? Why that word push?
Oh, well, let me see here though. They will push it down. As I'm seeing it, Pastor Ernie, it means to push down means like, uh, like animals butting and, uh, they, one, they butt and one gets knocked down. That's what it's, it's a war. It's very aggressive war.
And the push down means they've been driven down into the ground. All right. We have to, I have to move on though because we have other calls, but thanks. Let's go out there to, uh, Jack in San Diego. Hey, Jack.
Yes, Pastor Ernie. Trump originally was going to use the revenue from tariffs to replace the income tax system. And what I find interesting in the constitution, it says, uh, near the beginning of the constitution, there shall be no direct tax on the people, which is why they had to pass the 16th amendment in 1913 to allow for an income tax. So up until 1913, how did we fund the government? Well, it says in section eight, article one, that Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes.
Now, somehow that has been taken over by the president. But in any event, here's the taxes that nobody talks about. Duties, imposts, and excise tax. This is, uh, we didn't need an income tax. We levied those three taxes. And, uh, I think if you include tariffs and the three I just mentioned, you would probably have more than enough revenue to do away with the income tax system. But I thought you guys might want to look into exactly what are duties imposed and excises and where do they come from? That'd be, that's a very good topic.
Why don't you do that and be ready to let us know which ones you've got it all figured out. All right, you guys, uh, I would like to get rid of the income tax system. It's, uh, well, you know what else I hear? There's a big movement here in Ohio. There's a big, when you do that, it turns it into a potential, uh, criminal liability. Yeah. Well, like I said, he's talking about replacing the IRS.
That would be really great. Um, here there, there's a big movement in Ohio. It's growing and growing to get rid of property tax, which is an unlawful and illegal tax. It's an unlawful tax.
And so there's an unconstitutional and a lot of people in Ohio growing. And the reason for that is because these crooks in government here, in our government in Ohio, have raised the property taxes, you know, just without, um, you know, just raised them with no apparent reason or, um, I don't know. Yeah, and it becomes a problem for older retired people if they come to the point where they can't afford the property tax. And, of course, if you, if you have a property tax, you really never own your house.
I know that. This is why paying property taxes like paying rent. Well, you see a number of elderly people in Ohio have lost their houses because of that have to go to move into, with relatives or whatever, or move into.
And so, like I said, there's a growing movement to do away with property tax altogether. But I gotta move on, Jack, but thanks. Talk to you later. This will be the last call. We're going to go to one last call. It's Tony and Avonlea. Tony, you're in the air. Hi, Pastor Sanders.
First time caller. First of all, Michael Dukakis' running mate was Geraldine Ferraro. That's who I was trying to think of. You're absolutely right. And, you know, with your newsletters and what Paul Schiffer has been saying, you know, like Harry Truman said, if anybody gets rich well in office, you know, they're crooked.
Yep. Well, it's all about the paybacks and power and control and stuff like that. Well, it's kickbacks. That's what it's all about. That's how the whole thing works.
And, you know, like all these people, you know, from your newsletters and stuff, I think time is due for a righteous revolution and, you know, have all this stuff investigated. Like the J-6, you know, they didn't get their due process rights either. Well, they're not finished yet.
They've got massive lawsuits, and you're right. They've got to go after that, you know, that whole J-6. And got to go after Mark Elias, too. Yep, absolutely.
And Ray Epps. Already. Very good. Well, listen, thanks, Tony. I got to move on.
Thanks for calling. And, Big John, you've got about seven minutes. Can you do that in seven minutes? I sure can, Pastor Ernie. Are we ready? I'm ready.
All right. Well, Pastor Ernie, you were sharing from Revelation 20 today and the great white throne judgment. So, I was thinking that would be a great way to share the truth of the Word of God with the people that are listening. So, as we were sharing from Revelation chapter 20, it says that we will be, well, the people that are there under that judgment are going to be judged according to their work, and that the scriptures are clear that no one will be able to have eternal life based on their work, because we have a sin nature, and the works can't touch that sin nature. So, Revelation 20, 13 says, And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell were delivered up the dead which were in them, and they were all judged every man according to their works. And then it says, Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire, this is the second death, and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. We do not want any of our listeners cast into the lake of fire. We want everyone to have eternal life with Jesus Christ. So, the future is eternal life with Jesus Christ, or eternal death, where the people are constantly, like, dying.
It's horrible. It is absolutely horrible, and God has provided the way that no man or woman, no person has to go into the lake of fire. So, I'm going to show you from the book of Revelation, the people themselves in heaven, the believers in heaven with Jesus Christ, tell us how they got there. And I love this verse, because there's no questioning it. It's the clear message from the people in heaven telling us how they got there.
So, all we have to do is follow what they did. So, let's go to the verse. It is Revelation, chapter 5, verse 9, and it says the people in heaven now that believe in Jesus Christ, believe in Jesus Christ. They're there because of their belief in him. They're singing a new song to the Lord, and it says, and they sung a new song saying, thou art worthy to take the book and open the seals thereof.
And then it says why he can do it, and why they're there. For you were slain. The Lord died on the cross. The Bible says he died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sin, and was slain, and has redeemed us to God by thy blood.
Now, redeemed means to be bought back. We were sold, so to speak, into sin under the, I hate to say the word, under the authority of Satan, and when Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood, he redeemed us, bought us, paid for what is shed blood to us, to him, rather. Out of every kindred, that means tribe, out of every tongue, language, and people, and nation. So, everyone on earth have eternal life through Jesus Christ.
They will never be at the great white throne judgment. They told us because they were, they are in heaven because Christ was slain on the cross, and shed his blood to buy us to him out of every conceivable place on earth and every person on earth. So, heaven is open to everyone that's listening, and all we have to do is follow what they did in heaven. Now, the gospel of Jesus Christ is that Jesus died according to, and shed his blood, according to the scripture. He was buried, and he rose again the third day bodily, according to the scriptures.
It's not difficult, folks. You don't have to be a theologian. Just know that Jesus Christ died for you, because the reason he had to die for us was the penalty for sin is death. And everyone on earth was subject to sin because of our nature. But when Jesus came, he was the only begotten Son of God. He didn't have our sin nature. Say that again, Pastor Ernie? One minute, John.
Oh, that went fast. So, he had, he didn't have our sin nature, and therefore, he could pay the penalty for our sin. So, to have eternal life, what you need to do is repent of the sin, confess that Jesus Christ died on the cross. You believe that he died on the cross, shed his blood to pay the penalty for your sin, that he was buried, he rose again the third day bodily, according to the scriptures. He is your Lord and Savior, and you have eternal life because of the repentance and confession, and you will never, ever be at the great white throne judgment.
You will be in heaven forever with Jesus Christ. Thank you, Pastor Ernie. And you've got God's word upon that, okay? Absolutely.
And there's nothing more sure than the word of God. Well, we're at that time where we get to every night at this time where we say thanks for being here, for listening, thanks for supporting us. God bless. And until tomorrow, until tomorrow, we want to say, and always, always, always, you ready? Keep fighting the fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Thanks for listening to the Voice of the Christian Resistance, What's Right, What's Left, hosted by Pastor Ernie Sanders. To learn more about our ministry, please visit us online at www.wrwl.org. Please tune in next time for another edition of What's Right, What's Left.
