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at each location each week. And we continue our journey now through the book of Daniel. Here we are with today's special guest. Dr. Sam Warren.
There is a God in heaven.
some powerful Important words that mark the book of Daniel, 357 verses, 12 chapters. Written some 2500 years ago or so. An Old Testament book of prophecy and a book of wisdom. Dr. Sam Horn.
This is a bonus podcast. We've gone through all 12 chapters. We're going to hit a couple parts of chapter 12 we didn't cover in the last one, but what a What an exciting Moment kind of a A mixed emotion moment because we're, I've really enjoyed this book.
So it's kind of the end of 12 chapters for us, but it's also. A book that's pointing forward to great things to come. And when I think about how this book ends, I think about the sermon that I just heard. of yours Where you talk about ending well or Finishing well. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think that's so important. You know, the book of Daniel is as relevant today for us. in my opinion, as it was when God gave it to Daniel. And All through the book, we have watched this man. live faithfully Under some of the most harsh and difficult and pagan and dark and wicked.
and hard places in the world of his day. And he did that. As an ambassador for the kingdom that matters most. We talked about the book of Daniel. having this two-fold idea.
That that God rules, the throne of heaven rules. And it doesn't matter how big the thrones on earth look, how... How fierce, how hostile. or even how friendly at times they might be to us. God rules.
The throne of heaven is ultimately ruling everything that happens on earth. And then there is a kingdom that matters more. There's a kingdom that matters more than all of the thrones on earth combined. And that kingdom is a little kingdom that is so often despised. and rejected and opposed by all the powerful people on earth But it is the kingdom of God's son.
And one day that kingdom is going to come and be set up. And it will rule all the kingdoms of the world, and it will rule them in benevolent kindness and mercy and goodness. And you and I are part of that kingdom. And so the book of Daniel has really given us a perspective. to help us live.
Right now, like Daniel had to live right now in his day. That's why, in chapter 12, God says to Daniel, Go your way. And he's not saying, Go away, Daniel, I'm tired of talking to you. Or he's not shutting down the conversation like it's none of Daniel's business. He's saying, Daniel, all that I have revealed to you.
is for the generations to come. But you still have work to do here. you still have work to do in the kingdom of Persia. You still have work to do. In Babylon.
And so go your way, do the work. that that that I've called you to do finish well. And there's coming a day where you will rise again. In stand in your allotted place in the kingdom. Of Jesus when he comes.
It's an incredible story. And that's really kind of where you are, and where I am, and where every one of our listeners is. God has given us a role to play in this incredible drama. Daniel's role. was played well.
The question for me is, what about my role? Am I going to play it well like Daniel did? And if I'm going to play it well, I need his wisdom and I need the Spirit of God to strengthen me like he strengthened Daniel. All right.
Well said, Dr. Horne. You you ha you don't have a lot of books or chronology in the Bible that Traces a man through his whole life. You know, we see Joseph, we see his whole life. We see other saints, but Daniel, literally, we meet him when he might be 14 or 15 years old.
And then we leave him when he could be in his late 80s or even 90 years old. And we have these famous last words. I love the last book. I love the last uh verse of the whole Book, you know, verse 13 of chapter 12, and you quoted it, you know, we're God tells them to rest and to wait for his reward and to go his way and to live the life we're called to live our life, to go. Every day, clock you're clocking into work.
Jesus Christ is Lord of your life. You're shining a light for Him. You're walking into a plant. You may be the only Christian witness. You may be the only Bible.
That's read in that entire plant, in that entire corporation, in that bank, wherever you're going. And so, or at that soccer field when you're out there coaching or or watching your kids, you could be the only Jesus they see. And God says to Daniel, just hey, go your way, live your life, even at age 90. Here you have a man in his 80s, still fasting, still praying, still mourning, burdened for his people. Dr.
Horn, I want to. Go to As it were, Your final words about Daniel first, one little technical thing. That I know our prophecy buffs, and those that are kind of nerd out on the numbers are gonna wanna know about. There's 1,260 days, or maybe 1,360 days. In the middle of chapter 12, the two heavenly men, we think one may be a Christophany.
They bring up these numbers to Daniel. You have time, the word time. I counted the word time at least 10 times. No pun in Joe. In chapter 12, where he says, time, times, and time and a half.
And then he says, the time will come in the end of times. And at that time, over and over again, will you give us a quick breakdown of these? Is this the 70th week? I mean, traditional dispensational premillennial. Theology, eschatology has this.
And we know that Christ is coming back, and we know that. No one's going to be exact on all the dates and the times, but. I don't want our teachers preparing to teach this week in the final week of being able to get hung up on these numbers. You know, the 1,260 or the 1,360 days. Can you talk about what those mean real quick?
Yeah. And then we'll say some final words about Daniel, then we'll get out of here. Yeah. Okay, so first thing I want to say to all of our listeners and particularly to those of us who teach is that we have to hold these numbers humbly. And we have to be charitable in our interpretation.
I'm going to land a little more on the dispensational side because that's where I am. I'm a progressive dispensationalist. And so I am going to hold these numbers to refer to the fourth kingdom. And the aspect of the fourth kingdom that has not yet come. And when we talked about the end of chapter 11, and we talked about the transition between what was evident in Antiochus Epiphanes IV, and then all of a sudden there is this incredibly arrogant king, and he's putting his tent in front of the city of Jerusalem, in front of the temple, and he's being destroyed.
Obviously, historically, that didn't happen with Antiochus Epiphanes IV. He didn't die in Israel. He didn't set up a palatial tent. In this way. And so obviously, there are historical reasons, there are theological reasons.
And then there are hermeneutical reasons why I hold the position that I hold. But I have very good friends. And who are equally adept biblical scholars who are gonna hold a different position. And so I've determined in my life and in my ministry, especially as a pastor. When I teach on these topics.
And we get to something like this to be really careful as I approach these topics not to come across as though if you don't agree with me, you're somehow disobedient to scripture. And so I want to make sure all of us. Hear that because what can happen is the position that you take on these numbers. can actually ruin The impact of the rest of the book on somebody who disagrees with you because of the hard way that you state the ground out and maybe what you implied about people who are different. And so that's the first thing I want to say.
When it comes to these numbers. Um here's here's one of the things that that really convinced me. Um I ended up looking at chapter 11 and seeing how The vast majority of what was going on in chapter 10 and 11, and really back in chapter 8. were fulfilled historically. What was future prophecy for Daniel actually.
was fulfilled literally in human history. And so there really has to be a really good reason for the rest of it to not be fulfilled historically. If I'm going to take that position.
So I've adopted the position that just like everything that was future for Daniel was fulfilled historically and literally. Everything that is still future for me in the book is also going to be fulfilled in that way.
So that tells me. That these numbers are not symbolic. They refer to a particular period of time. And the period of time that makes best sense to me is that missing week. That we read about back in earlier in the book when we were reading in chapter nine and in chapter 10 about these 70 weeks, and there is this.
final week, this time, time and a half. That's a reference to this seven-year period of time that makes up the final week. And so I think that's what's going on here. The 1,290 days. have a beginning point.
When that arrogant anti-God, anti-Christ ruler. appears in the temple and he stops something. He stops the regular sacrifice. And he establishes something in the temple so abominable. that it forces Israel to turn away from their temple.
and to flee from their capital city.
Well, obviously. Uh we don't have a temple over there right now. Obviously, we don't have the in-gathered nation. That we read about in the book of Revelation, or that we even read about in Daniel, I'm sorry, in Romans 9:10, and 11. We have a state of Israel.
That is a political entity. But there's coming a day where there will be, in my opinion, and I'm going to hold this very charitably, a real temple. in Jerusalem and a real gathered nation around that temple. And they will be worshiping. And following the person who gave them that temple.
Think about what would happen if somebody could broker a piece. In such a way that they could establish a temple on the temple mound. The Jews would look at that man and say, This man is a mighty man of peace. Isaiah told us. that when our Messiah came, he would be the prince of peace.
And here is somebody who's broke her to piece.
So powerful that he's able to build a temple. For us on our Temple Mount, something we haven't had since 87. You can imagine. how this whole nation will look to that person, whoever he is. And follow that person and think initially: this man is our Messiah.
This is the one we've all been waiting for. And halfway through the period of time. He is going to stop the regular sacrifice. And he's gonna set something up in the temple so abominable that the entire nation is gonna see it. and be horrified.
And what he's going to do is he's going to insist. that the entire nation of Israel And in fact, the entire world worship him. And what's going to be set up in the courtyard of that temple, according to Revelation 12, 13, and following, 17 and 18 as well, is an image of himself. And there will be somebody. who's described as a prophet, a false prophet.
who will be directing everybody to worship this beast. and the eyes of the entire nation will be opened. And they will see that they've been duped, that they've been lied to. And they will flee because all of a sudden all bets are off. And this man who has been, in their eyes, a man of peace.
Somebody who delivered them, somebody who gave them a temple is now going to become their arch enemy, and he is going to persecute them. And that is going to last for three and a half years.
Now, that 1,290 days. has 45 extra days there's a i'm sorry there there is a 30 x 30 extra days the 1290 days is 300 three and a half years plus 30 30 days What is he going to do in that lat in the month? the extra month and here is my opinion i i think that the 30 extra days is the time that will take place when Messiah arrives. And he captures the Antichrist. and he captures the false prophet.
And he imprisons Satan in the bottomless pit. It is possible that these 30 days. are set up as a time of deep national mourning for Israel that is mentioned in Zechariah 12 verses 10 through 14.
So at the end of the time of troubles. When Christ has come. and and hurled antichrist Hurled the false prophet into the lake of fire, imprisoned Satan for a thousand years. These people will look on him whom they have pierced. And and And Zachariah says they will mourn as a nation like they were mourning the loss of the firstborn.
Think about what happened in Egypt. When all of the firstborn in Egypt perished in one night, the whole nation went into a period of mourning. And I think what's going to happen. At the end of all of this is there's gonna be a 30-day period of national mourning, deep grief. As Israel Reflects over what they have done for millennia.
Think about how many thousands of years. This nation has known about Jesus and rejected him and reviled him and hurled insults against him and murdered his people and persecuted his people and hated his people like Saul did. And all of a sudden, they're going to have an experience like Paul had. And it is going to produce a deep grief and a deep repentance. and a deep coming and the Bible says God will open up For them, a fountain of forgiveness, a fountain of mercy.
So, I think that's what the extra 30 days are doing.
Now, I think that there are. 45 more days mentioned because remember at the end it says, Blessed is the one who endures to the 1335th day.
So after this period of mourning, there's still 45 more days. What is going on in those 45 extra days?
So I think what's happening again, this is me personally. I think that. The kingdom is being established and set up. And people are being appointed. to rule in that kingdom.
The Bible says we're going to rule.
So, what are we going to rule? I don't think it's just, you know, theological sort of, you know. Balderdash, that you know, the writers are saying, I think we're actually going to rule with Christ.
So there are going to be assignments given. There is this majestic feast that celebrates the arrival of Messiah, the defeat of his enemies, the restoration of his people, the vindication of Israel, and the setting up of a global kingdom with Israel at the heart. And the and the administration, the Bible says he's going to rule with a rod of iron. The Bible says there's going to be peace that extends throughout.
Well, who is going to administrate all of that?
So I think that extra 45 days may be the establishing and the arranging and the celebration of that kingdom. In the eyes of the earth.
Now, that's little Sam Horn's perspective on it. There are very good men who would look at me and say, you know, that is really fanciful, Sam, and makes a lot of sense. from your perspective, but actually those numbers. are just there to kind of show us. that there is something that is going to happen.
And the numbers are there to talk about the intensity and the immensity of it. They're not there to go to any level of specificity about it. And I look at those brothers. And I celebrate them. I thank God for the way that they are faithful to scripture and how I've benefited from so much of what they've written elsewhere.
But in this, we have a difference. And I want to make sure I. That difference thoughtfully and carefully and exegetically, and most of all, charitably. You handled it very well. And I'm glad you said little Sam Horn's perspective and not little horns perspective because you know the little, we don't want to confuse you with the little horn of Daniel chapter.
Chapter seven. That is right. That is right. But you are a horn at the next level, brother, and we're grateful for you. And we're grateful for all that.
And you know, the beauty of that is, as we quoted Nancy DeMossa in her book, Heaven Reigns. For heaven rules, where she said, Hey, God knows the numbers. God has the math perfect, and we don't. And You're going to have uh disagreements from acro across the spectrum. You know, the the re the Reformer, the reformers, man, they thought the numbers were happening then.
You know, they thought the Antichrist was the Pope. And many thought that Hitler was the Antichrist. And then you have. dispensationalist camp, you know, the You know, you have the Ryries and the Dwight Pentecost, and you have. You have the more conservative guys, and you have Ironside, and some of the Southern Baptist scholars.
You have A whole gamut of folks that would take a little different approach, Dr. Horne, but God knows God reigns, God rules, it's His plan, it's His economy, it's His map. And he's the one coming back, and it's going to be grand. It's going to be glorious. Dr.
Horn, I want to reflect in our final moments on Daniel. And I want to talk about this godly, great man. And of course, Daniel. Daniel wants us to reflect on Jesus. And I want to be very careful when you do character studies, friends, we're not trying to be like Daniel.
Okay, we're trying to be like the one Daniel followed. And that's real important because. Daniel, you get close enough to anybody, you'll see their foibles, you'll see their challenges, you'll see their, you know, we all have issues. We're all, you know, vessels of jars of clay. But it it is beautiful.
To see God's glory and grace working in this man, we meet him at a very young age. He's exiled, he's captured, he's taken. Who knows what happened to his family? They could have been killed. You know, Nebuchadnezzar was a bloody.
Conqueror. You know, he burned this, came back and burned the city after that, the temple. But Took all these captives, killed a lot of people. And there Daniel is standing strong for God in chapter one. I don't think I'll ever look at the lion's den, the fiery furnace.
I don't think I'll ever look at all these events, visions, and dreams the same again after doing this deep dive. And Daniel, Dr. Horn, but how would you, Dr. Horn, supposing you're standing in a church. And they say we're we're laying to rest the body.
Daniel the prophet. As a pastor who has studied Daniel, Who knows a lot more about Daniel than a lot of us just from the study of God's word and how it interfaces with the rest of the entire tapestry of Scripture? Dr. Horne, there you are standing. In the pulpit, in front of you is a pine box in the remains of Daniel, who's with the Lord, obviously, absent from the body.
How would you eulogize this man, Dr. Horne? How would you? to this next generation, to people listening, what is it? that has entouched Encouraged, inspired, transformed your life from this man's life and legacy and how he finished well.
Well, that's a very powerful thing. And I've thought a lot about Daniel in my own life. You know, Daniel finished well. He didn't leave anything on the field. I mean, he gave it all.
He did not waste his life. And I don't want to waste mine, however long it is, however hard it is, wherever it goes, whatever it costs, I want to be like Daniel. And so. I thought about Daniel's life in five ways. First of all, he was.
He was genuinely submissive. Was genuinely humble before God. You saw that way back in chapter one. He resolved. He made a decision, no matter what it was gonna cost him.
He resolved that he would not defile himself. By disobeying the Torah of God, he was not about to eat food that had been offered to the idols of the king. No matter how much he needed that food, or how nutritious it was, or what it would potentially afford him to do, or what door it might open for him, he was. genuinely obedient. He was genuinely submissive.
And the word I use for that is humble. He was genuinely humble. And humility, humble people trust God. That's the bottom line. Peter says, casting all your care upon him.
For he cares for you. And right before that, Peter says, humble yourself under the mighty hand of God. And he will lift you up in due time. And so here is Daniel. in in one of the worst moments of his life And he humbled himself and he obeyed God.
He was genuinely humble. Secondly, he was remarkably gracious. We saw that in chapter two when God gave him the answer to the dream. Remember, all the wise men had been corralled, and Aspenaz, the master of the eunuch, had come, knocked on the door, giving Daniel the bad news: hey, kings are going to kill all the wise men. You know, I need to corral you, bring you to the place where we're gathering everybody for the big execution.
And Daniel appeals, God gives him favor, he gets the answer to the king's question, the king's dream. And the first thing he does before he goes to see the king is he says to the king.
Now spare. The wise man. You know, don't kill the wise men. He extended gracious mercy. To his enemies.
And by the way, those enemies are going to plague him for the rest of his life. In in Babylon. That group of people and their descendants are going to show up in chapter three. They're going to show up in chapter six. I mean, these dudes are determined to destroy Daniel.
And when Daniel had the opportunity to destroy them, He showed them gracious mercy. He was remarkably gracious. And then number three, he was unusually wise. I mean, it was just. Unbelievable how wise.
This man was. And the testimony of that. comes out of the lips of a very surprising source. It is it is Belshazzar's mother. Nebuchadnezzar's daughter who grew up in the court of her father watching this.
Why is Daniel? Helper dad. And she says about him in chapter five: there is a man in your kingdom. In whom the spirit of the holy gods resides in the days of. Of your father Nebuchadnezzar, light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him.
Um wow. Where did Daniel get that wisdom? it wasn't that he put extra hours in the library at Babylon. It wasn't that while he was a student at the University of Babylon, he spent extra time studying the dream manuals, or he started, you know, just think of all the ways in which we think we get wisdom on a human level. The kind of wisdom that made Daniel wise was the wisdom that James talks about.
It is a wisdom from above, and God gives that wisdom liberally. to anybody who wants it as long as they come in faith. And that's what Daniel did.
So he was unusually wise. And then number four, he was fearlessly bold. I mean, man, you know, and we see this in two ways. In chapter four, he looks at Nebuchadnezzar after giving him the worst news that he could possibly give to the king. And he says to the king, look, I wish this news were for your enemies and not for you.
But if you'll let me. I want to step out of my advisor role. I want to step out of my prime minister role. I want to step out of my profit role. And I want to speak to you as a friend.
And I want to speak boldly and directly to you. Break away from your sinning. Nebuchadnezzar, you have been sinning your entire life. You've been arrogant against the God of heaven. You kill whoever you want to kill.
You do whatever you want. And when the God of heaven speaks to you, You give him token, you know, token praise, and then you go right back to your arrogant ways. I mean, Daniel speaks. to king nebuchadnezzar boldly and directly and fearlessly. And by the end of that chapter, Nebuchadnezzar gets saved.
Chapter 5. Nebuchadnezzar's grandson Belshazzar. Has this hand that appears. And this judgment. Is pronounced against them.
You've been weighed in the balances, you've been found wanting, and tonight your kingdom and your life are gonna be taken from you. And Daniel stands in front of that man who has the power of life and death, who is angry and afraid. And he looks at Belshazzar and he says very directly to him, keep your rewards. I'm going to tell you the truth. This is what you you saw.
when your grandfather was king. And you knew this, you knew all of this, and yet you have chosen to worship the gods of wood and stone. and precious metals. And those gods will never save you. And so he spoke boldly.
Um against Against evil. And then finally, the thing that I love about Daniel: at 80 years of age, he is consistently faithful. He just he just No matter what you do to him, no matter what you say about him, no matter how hard you make it for him, this man gets up every day and he pleases God. He opens the windows of his house. He gets down on his knees.
And he does what Solomon said to do when you pray toward the house. Of God, and you pray toward the city of God, and you pray for the purposes, and on the basis of the promises of God, God hears from heaven. And Daniel lived that way. Here in Daniel 6. He had to choose between the law of the Medes and the Persians.
or the law of God. And he chose the law of God. And here was King Darius, who for thirty days was the sole mediator on earth. between God and man, and he was powerless. To help Daniel.
and daniel was looking for a day when there would be a mediator between god and man who could deliver the world. from its sin. Because that man, Jesus. Bore the sins of the world. That's what John the Baptist said.
Behold, the Lamb of God who bears away the sins of the world. And Daniel saw that Lamb of God in chapter 7. the Son of Man, and he never forgot him. And he lived a faithful life. You know, when we see Jesus.
And we understand who he is and we get Daniel's vision. That's what gives us fidelity. That's what gives us faithfulness. We're not going to get faithful because we make six promises and we go down to the altar eight times. We become faithful when we see what Daniel saw.
You know, think about it this way. You remember when you first met your wife? I remember when I first met my wife. You know what has kept me faithful in our marriage is the glory and the beauty. and the preciousness of that relationship.
I see Beth every morning. I see her throughout the day, and she becomes more precious to me as I see her. You know, that's really a really kind of dumb, weak human illustration. But it's what happened to Daniel. Daniel just kept seeing more and more of God's power and God's goodness and God's blessing.
And then he saw this vision of Jesus, the Son of Man. And it enabled him to be faithful to the end. And that's going to enable every one of us to be faithful to the end.
So ultimately, the book of Daniel is about a man who saw Jesus. and was faithful to the end. Wow, great words, Dr. Sam Horn, pastor, author, radio host, sir. Verse 3 of chapter 12.
really seems to in a sense, encapsulate what Daniel has done. You know, we're talking to who knows how many people on this this recording. And then we have so many who have been hearing you preach about Daniel, so many who thousands, millions have heard. Read, studied Daniel, been impacted by Daniel. Daniel is one of those stars of chapter 12, verse 3, who shines.
And who has led and brought many to righteousness. And that's really. That's really a legacy thing. You know, I it's to to put it very Kind of rawly and you know in a raw way and To put it Very basic, the cookies of the lower shelf. I heard one of my FCA preachers one time, speakers at a camp, said, He said, God's going to ask you two questions.
When you get to heaven. He said, First, the question is: why should I let you in? Of course, that's the most important. You know, we're there on the merits of Christ. But the second question is, and of course, this isn't how it's going to go down, likely, but he said the second question is.
Who did you bring with you? And so this is Dr. Horn. Daniel Is a shining star who has brought many to righteousness. Daniel.
Has was a light bringing his people to the true God through many trials, through many difficulties, through many toils and dangers. And there are many of those. Dangers to come. And evil is going to get evil and darker in this Antichrist figures, and all these types of Antichrist figures leading up to this Antichrist. And what happens in Jerusalem, and what happens with.
the wars and all this. But, Dr. Horn, back to what we've talked about all along, God is in control. God is on his throne. There is a God in heaven.
And the God of Daniel Is the God That I want to follow. Till the end. And this is, you know, there's the old statement: it's not how you start, but it's how you finish the race that counts. And everyone wants to hear those words.
Well done. good and faithful serv servant Daniels heard those words May those words be spoken of us. Dr. Horne. your final thoughts, and then please pray for us, your kind of this final prayer over um Over our time and our leaders, and over this wonderful celebration of these 12 chapters of Daniel.
Okay. saying goodbye to a good friend. And I hope it's not a long goodbye. I hope every one of us will visit Daniel's book regularly. I think you said it really well earlier on in one of our podcasts.
Everybody has to decide what they're going to do with Daniel. Because you can't ignore them. Right, you can get lost in all the prophetic details, but at the end of the day, You gotta do something with our good friend Daniel. And I would say it this way: as you listen to Daniel. And you learn from Daniel.
Daniel made a decision. about the kingdom of me. He lived in the kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar, he was from the kingdom of Israel, but in his own little kingdom, the kingdom of Daniel, he decided early on that God was going to rule no matter what. And that's if I've learned anything from Daniel. I need to let God be the king of the kingdom of Samhorn.
My little kingdom of me has to be ruled by God. I can't control the kingdom of the United States of America. I have no control over Russia or Ukraine or Israel or Hamas or any of these other places. But there is a little kingdom. That matters a lot to me.
It's the kingdom, if I'm honest, that matters the most, and it's the kingdom of me. And I'm either going to be the ruler of that kingdom like Nebuchadnezzar was for so many years. or I'm going to let God rule. And Daniel is the story of a man who, at 18 years of age, decided. I'm going to let God rule the one kingdom that matters most to me.
It's the kingdom. of me. And so that's really. If we take that away, the book of Daniel changes us.
So let me pray. And we'll say goodbye for now to Daniel and looking forward to coming to 2 Peter in the next week or two. Lord, thank you for this faithful servant. who has ministered grace to us. and kindness to us.
and truth to us. And so, Lord, we want to do what he did. He did it when he was 18. Nebuchadnezzar did it just a few years before the end of his life.
So it doesn't matter where we're at in the spectrum. We may be at the very beginning of our life, we may be in the middle of our life, we may be at the end of our life. We may have Not messed up a lot. We may have made a wreck of the little kingdom of me. But wherever we're at, in whatever shape that kingdom is in, we want to turn it over to you.
and we want to ask you to rule it. And Lord, help us to be Gracious. humble and obedient and wise. and bold and faithful in the little kingdom of our life. Because when we're that way, you'll use that little kingdom to impact all the world around us.
And we'll thank you for it in Jesus' name. Thank you, Dr. Horne, and thank you for joining us for this Wednesday in the Word podcast. Learn more at wedintheword.com. Follow us on YouTube.
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