There are consequences when a nation forgets God.
We'll spend the next hour discussing that. You know, the KGB still runs Russia. It's more powerful than Russia than it ever was before. So it is infiltrating our system, it's backing Black Lives Matter, it's backing other radical groups in America.
So yeah, it's definitely still a threat. And welcome to the program. We look at news, views, truths from a decidedly biblical perspective. And some of you may remember that a couple of years ago, I featured Curtis Bowers on here. We did a two-week special on his production called Agenda.
And quite frankly, we had overwhelming response. And I've recently been apprised of an equally gripping DVD. It's titled Enemies Within. It's by Trevor Loudon.
Trevor's from New Zealand. And he's going to join me for the hour to discuss the communist infiltration into our government. He also emphasizes, and I find this to be very significant, it's a red-green alliance, a sort of a double whammy of communists and Islamists who have penetrated our government.
And obviously, their goal is not anything good for America, for her future, for your future, for your kids' and grandkids' future. So I hope that you'll really listen up. And Trevor Loudon, welcome to the program. It's great to be on, Jen.
Thanks for having me. Trevor, you're from New Zealand. Why do you care? I mean, you make a fantastic film. You obviously poured time, money, effort into this.
You're not even from America. Why the burden here? Well, there is a debt. My country was saved from invasion during World War II by the Japanese army, only because of the huge sacrifice of your fathers and grandfathers and uncles at the battles of Guadalcanal and the Coral Sea in Midway.
So we feel very grateful for that. But really, it's also because the US Constitution is the guiding light for anyone who loves liberty. And if the US Constitution is allowed to die, the light of liberty will go out across the planet, not just in America, but every free country of the world. Because, you know, the world is full of bad guys, you know, from Moscow and Beijing and Havana and Tehran and, you know, the radical Islamic movement. And if America isn't leading the world, those people will take over.
And that's not the kind of world I want to leave to my children. You know, you state in this film, there's kind of a little bit of a deception going on when the Soviet Union collapsed, it took away the image of the enemy, and that's how they have infiltrated. So apparently, there's kind of a delusion that the Soviet Union no longer Russia, whatever you want to call it, the whole communist world has sort of diminished in significance.
So you say that's when they really made inroads? Yeah, well, look, two weeks ago, Vladimir Putin was in Sochi, Russia, where he headlined a convention of 50,000 strong convention of communist youth from all over the world. And that was there to celebrate 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution. And Vladimir Putin specifically intervened to organize that venue for the Russian communist youth. You know, you've got to understand right now that Russia is backing the Taliban in Afghanistan, Russia is backing ISIS, Russia is backing Hamas and Al Qaeda, Russia is still backing Cuba and Venezuela, all the old communist block countries. And it's still an alliance and formal alliance through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with Communist China. So Russia is not our friend. And Russia now has three times more nuclear weapons than the United States at minimum, and double the number of soldiers under arms. So it's very naive to think that because they don't talk about communism so much these days, that they're still not committed to that goal. You know, the KGB still runs Russia, it's more powerful in Russia than it ever was before. So it's infiltrating a system that's backing Black Lives Matter. It's backing other radical groups in America.
So yeah, it's definitely still a threat. I want to play what I think this might be a trailer that you have. And it presents in just about two minutes, two minutes and 25 seconds, kind of what this film is all about.
And then I'll tell folks how they can get it. Trevor Loudon is a guy from New Zealand. He's a dad who was concerned about the world.
I'm an activist, author and researcher from Christchurch, New Zealand. He is the official commie hunter. For five years, I've been traveling to the United States to expose the greatest act of betrayal in modern history, that old school communism that you saw with the USSR, it's not dead, it's alive and well. And it's not just in North Korea, the United States, a country founded on the very principles of liberty and freedom, whose soldiers have shed blood for more than 200 years to protect is now facing the most dangerous enemy it has ever seen. The enemy within.
I've been following your stuff for a long time and it's overwhelming. Why is America slowly sinking into poverty, despair and socialism? Why is American economy teetering on the brink of collapse? Why are the allies of the United States slowly backing away as its enemies become more brazen?
Is this all an accident, perhaps a coincidence or just inevitable decline? Or has this been a deliberately engineered attack on the greatest nation the world has ever seen? We actually have bad actors who have penetrated our system, basically making decisions the way Iran and North Korea and China and Russia would like us to make decisions. So basically Trojan horses inside the infrastructure? Yeah, an insider threat. America has enemies operating in the highest levels of the federal government who are deliberately working to bring the nation to its knees. If you look at every policy that the Obama administration has instituted, it has an older brother living in Venezuela.
The enemies within names names and pulls no punches. It exposes exactly how hardcore anti-American activists have penetrated the highest branches of the US government and are working together to destroy the constitution and finally extinguish the American dream. We're seeing the disintegration of a noble rural order. If America falls, every Western country goes down. If America is weakened, their allies are weakened and then we talk about dominoes.
Every free nation will fall alongside her. Understand what this is really about. We've never been in more danger from these powers. The enemies within will expose the names, reveal the faces and show you what the mainstream media won't allow you to see. The enemy is within because they are in our government. You're listening to Understanding the Times Radio.
I'm Jan Markell. I have on the line Trevor Loudon, writer producer of a DVD I've viewed very recently called Enemies Within. Here's how you get it. First of all, we're not carrying it but you can get it at enemieswithinmovie.com, enemieswithinmovie.com.
You have to order it online. And Trevor, as I was listening to that clip, something came to my mind and that is some eight, nine years ago, probably nine, ten years ago now, Barack Obama promised the transformation of America. Now, I think he kind of opened the door to a lot of what you're revealing here.
I mean, he himself committed Marxist. But now we have a new sheriff in town as they keep saying, do you see perhaps a greater pushback against the enemies of within with Barack Obama out of the picture, though he's still organizing for action with his little group behind the scenes? Yeah, look, there's still a war going on right now, because there are a whole bunch of Obama holdovers still in the administration. You really have two presidents in the United States right now.
You have Donald Trump and Barack Obama, and it hasn't been decided yet who is in complete control. So the election of Donald Trump was a huge victory, you know, for our side in a way for freedom because not so much about Trump himself, but because of the fact that Hillary Clinton would have effectively finished Obama's job for her. And I want to say two things that she would have done that she promised to do within 100 days of taking office. The first one, she was going to implement UN Resolution 1618, which she helped to design and implement through the State Department.
It's an operation of the Organization of Islamic Conference, the largest Muslim Brotherhood front group in the world, and that resolution would have technically made it illegal to criticize Islam in this country. It would have made it a felony. So that was one thing. The other thing she was promised to do within 100 days of taking office was to legalize every illegal immigrant in the country and give them citizenship and voting rights.
Now people need to understand the significance of this. Now, Mitt Romney lost his election by two and a half million votes. Donald Trump won by about 200,000 votes.
A very slim margins, right? Now there are between 10 and 30 million illegals in the country right now. We know that they will vote approximately 80% at least for the Democratic Party. That would mean between 10 and 24 million new votes for the Democratic Party. That would have essentially created a one-party state in America.
It could never be overturned. And my argument is that even if you're a Democrat, do you really want to live in the country where one party rules forever? Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And it's my contention in the movie, and I'm not giving the Republicans a pass on it at all. There are a lot of problems with the Republican Party. But the Democratic Party since 1994 has effectively been completely taken over at the top level by Marxists. Barack Obama was the crowning glory. And he filled the party with communists. He filled the administration with communists.
And that is the problem that Donald Trump is now dealing with. You name some allies. Now, first of all, let me back up a little bit. You say that once what was once Marxist and Leninist, they now just call themselves progressive. You say that most communists say they are socialist. You spend a good amount of time talking about the democratic socialists, which is what Bernie Sanders is, and I want to get to Sanders here in a minute. And then you talk about there are certain allies of the democratic socialists of America, and you name them.
And I'm going to I'm just going to go down on a list of names that you name. In other words, the name that I'm about to name, you name and let's just say in simple terms, these folks are sympathetic, to say the least, to communism, Marxism, whatever you want to call it. You name representatives Jerry Nadler, Maxine Waters, Alan Grayson, Florida, John Lewis, Barbara Mikulski, who's since stepped down retired, Debbie Stabenow, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders.
We'll get there in a moment. You name other names that are, again, very friendly to the whole Marxist message. Patty Murray, Washington, Al Franken, Minnesota, Claire McCaskill, Keith Ellison, Muslim. Again, I'm naming a lot from Minnesota. Amy Klobuchar, Louis Gutierrez.
You even name Mark Dayton, the governor of Minnesota. You spend a fair amount of time talking about Representative Andrew Carson, another Muslim, and you also consider John Conyers of Michigan to be one of the most troubling in office with communist ties. Now, a couple of these names are perhaps more than a couple I've named as I speak are embroiled in some scandals and whether or not they remain in office is questionable.
We don't know at this point. All I'm saying is you're naming the names of some people and as I just read some of those names, some of my listeners are shocked. Well, they should be and it goes further than that. I maintain currently in Congress there are about 100 members of the United States House of Representatives and about 20, probably more close to 25 senators who are so enmeshed in neo-communism or Muslim Brotherhood front groups or in many cases both that they couldn't pass a basic FBI background check to drive a school bus. They couldn't sell you stamps at the post office but they're serving on the Homeland Security Committee, the Armed Services Committee, even the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives and so these people are trashing your country every day. But the horrible thing is there are no security background checks in Congress, none whatsoever. So you have people serving in there that wouldn't be allowed to clean the toilets at any military base in your country yet they're serving on the Intelligence Committee and the Armed Services Committee and they are working with enemy nations like the Cubans and the Chinese and the Russians to bring this country to its knees and I think we make a good case for that in the movie. Yep, you do.
Again, folks find it at enemieswithinmovie.com enemieswithinmovie.com. I want to just spend a minute here on Bernie Sanders. He certainly, I think without some shenanigans going on in the Democrat Party he probably could have even been President of the United States. Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders claims to be a Democratic Socialist who wants America to be more like Sweden, Denmark and Norway. He wants America to look more like Scandinavia.
That's right and what's wrong with that? But is Honest Bernie telling you the truth? In 2014 Sanders endorsed long-time Communist Party supporter Chewy Garcia's bid for the Chicago mayoralty. Sanders spoke alongside Scott Marshall, a leader of the Chicago Communist Party.
In the early 1960s Bernie Sanders studied at the University of Chicago. There he joined the Marxist Young People's Socialist League and worked for the Communist Party led Packing House Workers Union. In 1963 Sanders traveled to Israel as a guest of the pro-Soviet Hashimur Hitzat youth organization. Sanders worked on the Shahar Hamakim kibbutz, a pro-Stalin communal farm near Haifa.
The kibbutz's co-founder Aharon Cohen had been jailed in 1958 for spying against Israel for the Soviet Union. By 1972 Sanders had moved to Vermont where he became active in the far-left Liberty Union Party. In 1980 Sanders backed the presidential campaign of Andrew Pulley, a leader of the pro-Cuba Socialist Workers Party. In 1985 while serving as mayor of Burlington Vermont, Bernie Sanders celebrated the sixth anniversary of the pro-Soviet Sandinista takeover of Nicaragua. Trevor Loudon, I think here's what's stunning, I think here's what's really grabbed my attention at the end of the campaign season almost a year ago. You know two committed, well I'm gonna have to say it, Democratic Socialists, Communists, Marxists, whatever, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders came very very close to winning.
I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Well I know because you know Americans live in the freest, richest country in the world and but that breeds a little bit of naivety and a little bit of complacency and most Americans have a real problem understanding the evil side of politics and especially when it comes to your internal politics. You know Hillary Clinton is a committed Marxist. Bernie Sanders is a committed Marxist. He's just a little bit more open about him than Hillary. So you had two Marxists competing amongst themselves for the presidential nomination for the Democratic Party and one of them came within a whisker of becoming your president.
That would have made two Marxist presidents in a row Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and if you see the damage that Barack Obama did to your military, to your race relations, to your economy, to your education system, do you think America could have survived you know eight years of Hillary Clinton? Now and conservatives and Christians in America knew that and we're pretty troubled as we led up to the election back in 2016. Here's where I want to go.
I'm going to take a short time out here when I come back. I want to talk to you a little bit more about some of the let's say some of the policies that are trying to be implemented by these folks from the $15 minimum wage that's part of their plan folks. Stopping the Keystone Pipeline was a part of their plan.
Sequestration, normalizing relations with Cuba, arms limitation, all sorts of things are a part of the leftist plan and we're going to talk about that and much more. I have on my on the line Trevor Loudon. He is a writer producer of the film Enemies Within. Find it at enemies within movie dot com. We're not carrying it at this time and if you saw the the video agenda this parallels a lot of what was spoken but this one is totally gripping, totally captivating, and I cannot recommend it highly enough.
If you really want to understand just how did America go from the greatest nation on God's green earth, still is by the way, but there are those trying to take her down so that we become just another third world country under a communist flag. I'm back in a couple of minutes. Don't go away. Please stay with us.
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You can become our financial partner when you mail your tax deductible gifts to olive tree ministries box one four five two maple grove minnesota five five three one one jan's conversation continues with Trevor Loudon right after this so understanding the times 2018 is almost sold out now why don't you consider getting a group together to live stream the event at your computer or perhaps put it on a big screen there is no cost or registration involved for streaming our speakers include Amir Sarafati pastor Jack Hibbs pastor Billy Crone pastor JD Farag and Eric Barger we will help you understand that nothing is falling apart in fact things are all falling together events that could be interpreted as chaotic and dark are really a herald of his return we'll also help you contend for the faith fellowship with like-minded is essential for spiritual health and to stay optimistic and looking up our event and live streaming is saturday september 29th but you will be able to access the archived 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marxists all completely communist control self-described political activist and researcher from christ church new zealand trevor louden recently produced an insightful video the enemies within that documentary's theme serves as the centerpiece for jan's discussion with trevor today once again jan martel you're not allowed to talk about communism and if you do you're called crazy and insane i've been following your stuff for a long time and it's overwhelming if you look at every policy that the obama administration has instituted it has an older brother living in minnesota the communists never revealed themselves to be comments anybody who calls for comprehensive immigration reform in my judgment is trying to get the mvp award from isis and al-qaeda they actually have bad actors who have penetrated our system basically making decisions the way iran and north korea and china and russia would like us to be basically trojan horses inside the infrastructure yeah an insider threat we don't win this battle of ideas and information the next battle is going to be something really bad if america is weakened their allies are weakened and then we talk about dominoes we've never been in more danger from these powers if the conservatives keep quiet the communists win the enemy is within because they are in our government and welcome back you're listening to understanding the times radio talking for the hour with trevor louden a writer producer of the film i've just watched enemies within and trevor off air you said to me that and we just named some names few minutes ago my goodness we named all sorts of all part of the democrat party but none of them have ever pushed back against you how come well because what i say is true look i spent a lot of time in archives because if look what happens you know every city has a few communists and when they get old they gathered all their papers up for their lifetime and it's got you know their all their minutes of meetings their membership lists their letterheads etc and they put them in little boxes and they donate them to the local library because they hope being good atheists that someday someone's going to come along and write a biography of their wonderful revolutionary life well we go into those libraries and we photocopy and we photograph thousands of pages and some of them are tremendously revealing you know they will have letters addressed to barack obama from communists when he was a young community organizer they'll have membership lists of communist groups that contain democratic congressmen and that kind of thing so we have so much documentation that the left people that dare not challenge us because they know that they would lose any core battle and the publicity would be hugely damaging to them in the last segment i referenced a few policies that the left is of course promoting and reference the 15 minimum wage is part of the marxist plan here the sequestration normalized relations with cuba arms limitation etc and then you spend a fair amount of time and it's done very effectively talking about the labor unions and that today they are completely controlled by the communists and your film says that the union movement is not interested in the workers it's only interested in communism do you think a lot of the workers are clueless about that look they're completely clueless and and you got to understand that in america up till about 1995 american labor unions were actually led by anti-communists that's right like lane kirkland and george meni and they were patriotic organizations and but in 1995 1994 there was a coup inside the afl cio that was the year that democratic socialists of america led by the emember john swinney took over that organization swinney became president and he removed the anti-communist clause from the afl cio's constitution and the marxists came flooding in so now every single major labor union in your country seiu ask me nea united auto workers you name it they are now all run by marxists all completely communist controlled but i would guarantee you that 99 of the jews paying members of those organizations are completely clueless they have no idea whatsoever and so what has happened is you got to understand that if you control the labor movement in this country you effectively control the democratic party because the democrats rely on labor union money and manpower to get them elected so what happens is the communist set a policy it might be normalization relations with cuba or a nuclear deal with iran they make it labor union policy and the unions make it democrat policy so under obama you had about 30 000 communists in america controlling the unions who were dictating the policies of the democratic party which were controlling the lives of 330 million americans that's how it works another issue you spend time on briefly but but very effectively and that's health care i actually i'm gonna play a clip here in just a second about how they're trying to obtain single payer let's play clip number three and then trevor let's just talk about it for a minute or two once we finish with this little clip but this clip talks about the goal of course is the goal of communism everywhere is let the government decide who gets care and what kind of care they get they don't like you folks you won't get it obama's affordable care act passed in 2009 the bill passed against huge republican and tea party opposition i intend to speak in support of defunding obama care until i am no longer able to stand and with a complete lack of transparency lack of transparency is a huge political advantage we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it you know call for stupidity american voter or whatever but basically that was really really critical to get anything to pass another key obama care architect was harvard public health professor john mcdonough i helped craft and pass nessachusetts health reform in 2006 and the affordable care act in 2010 john mcdonough was a former chairman of boston dsa gerald friedman is an amherst economics professor dsa comrade and big-time obama fan i showed up the other day wearing my obama shirt i i love the man and half my friends have jobs in the administration professor friedman loves obama care the thing i like most about it is it makes promises it can't realize so in a couple of years we're going to have an opportunity to really do something nothing's going to happen for a couple years they're going to give the exchanges a chance they're going to try this thing and then it's going to fail because it can't succeed the white house doesn't even say it will succeed the uninsured are going to go up by the white house projections i'm not making this up this is what the white house says when obama care fails what comes next we have to be ready because the other side is going to have a plan and they are ready we have to be ready with an effective plan with single payer plan let's go cut administrative waste and expand services then will come the big leap into fully socialized health care to make the change we need we need the big leap and those big leaps happen only occasionally a few times in history have we had the type of mass movement that forces the powers that be to make a giant change these are called moments of madness this will bring your health care under complete government control as was intended all along you're listening to understanding the times radio i'm jan markell i have on the line trevor louden producer of the film i have just watched enemies within find it at enemies within movie.com enemies within movie.com trevor you know that's just a haunting clip i just played from your film and this goes back to 09 2010 when it was implemented i think passed officially 2010 and then the republicans are not pushing back i'm not sure we can stop this locomotive just not sure yeah well this is a critical battle because obamacare was designed by democratic socialists of america the marxist group and the father of the single-payer health care movement was a man called quentin young a doctor from chicago he was a communist party member he then joined democratic socialists of america and he was barack obama's personal physician and political mentor he gave obama the idea so the plan for obamacare was it would move towards socialized health care it would fail it would leave a whole bunch of people uninsured and then the push would come for fully government controlled health care unless president trump comes up with a plan pretty quickly that moves back to free market solutions that is what is going to happen even under a trump presidency or certainly under and under the next democratic administration look i come from a country that has socialized health care and you do not want it because their argument's very simple and you got to think about this for a minute if you live in a free market health care system and i know it's not free market here but at least it still has elements of it you are a customer and customers are treated very very well if you're in a single-payer system you are a liability because there is a fixed government budget for health care but there are unlimited health care needs every operation you have is a drain on the system so when you stop paying taxes and when you are no longer a contributing member of society your health care is decided by accountants you you imagine if you're a seven-year-old girl who has leukemia they can give you a hundred thousand dollars worth of cancer treatment and save your life and you may grow up and marry and have a family and pay taxes or you may be a 75 year old man who has prostate cancer and it's going to cost a hundred thousand dollars to give you another two years of life you know the budget is fixed they have no they have to ration what are they going to do if they get are they going to treat the seven-year-old girl or the 75 year old guy because they probably won't be able to treat both well i've tried to cover this topic on air over the last several years and i appreciated the way it's covered in your film it's a very very ominous time the republican party is not exactly helping the cause of getting rid of this kind of this behemoth that's staring us in the face i want to look at a a couple of more issues you've already referenced shall we say the amnesty because the left needs more voters and we've kind of referenced that in the first segment and there are we don't know how many million immigrants but you state in the film it's game over for conservatives and christians when it comes to voting if in fact we're not going to deal with some 20 and possibly even 50 million immigrants that are in this country again these people are being controlled by the unions committed to turning the usa into a communist nation but again this amnesty is a huge huge issue well it is and and most christians are told yeah this is infiltrated the churches yes it has yes that that christians are told that we must welcome every illegal immigrant that comes into the country and i i don't even use the word immigrant they are illegal aliens that there's a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien it's the same difference it's between a guest in your house and a burglar they're not the same thing you know if you look at the old testament it's all about national security you know how many times did the israelites get invaded and how many times they have to put up walls and defend themselves as best they could they understood that you had to be able to protect your country and protect your families from those who would do you harm now most of the illegals in this country are christian people who just want a better life for themselves and you can understand why they do it but the problem is this they will destroy the very country they have come to seek solace and to come for a better life because they will vote 80 to 85 percent for the democratic party and the democratic party is now communist you know there's no sugar coating it the democratic party is now communist so you've got this unholy alliance going on because a lot of the republicans are controlled by the chamber of commerce and the chamber of commerce wants an unlimited supply of cheap labor so they want to keep the borders open the democrats want an unlimited supply of undocumented new voters so they want to keep the borders open so that is the problem so donald trump got elected on a promise of no amnesty and closing the borders we have to put every pressure on him to make sure those promises are kept because otherwise there will be no america left that's right again folks get this film at enemies within movie.com enemies within movie.com we're not carrying it so best not to call here but get it online and enemies within movie.com i want to spend the time that we have left trevor and it's a limited amount of time left i want to spend it on the red green access and let me just explain what that is to my audience because that's really the aligning of communists in america and muslims because they both parties have a couple of issues that they share they hate america they hate israel and so they've kind of yoked in their destructive efforts and quite frankly trevor minnesota has an islamic representative and i named him earlier in the program keith ellison and your film spends a fair amount of time on representative carson from indiana if we have time i'll play a clip about that talk to me for just a minute about this red green alliance because as frank gaffney and gaffney has a big role in your film says the fbi cannot do its job properly and that is backed up by somebody else you have in this film good friend of mine been on air a number of times phil haney some of our organizations are prohibited from doing their job properly yeah well americans need to understand that the the fbi and your intelligence agencies have been very very penetrated by the muslim brotherhood and its sympathizers and they've purged your training manuals of information that your agents can even use to to come down on these people and also your judiciary committee in the house of representatives the ranking democrat is a complete marxist by the name of john conyers who is a very active supporter of several muslim brotherhood front groups and he has helped to shut down republican efforts to designate the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist organization as it is in russia as it is in egypt and saudi arabia the muslim brotherhood is the parent of hamas it's the parent of al-qaeda and the parent of isis but in america it worked through several front organizations quite legally and it works very closely with the communist movement as well so both from hate america they they are allies right now maybe they might fight each other over our corpses in the future but that's a little late for us right now they are working together to bring this country down and keith allison of minnesota has his foot in both camps he's a long-time communist party activist supporter and he was a very active with muslim brotherhood front groups one of them even paid for his pilgrimage to mecca but you know he still swears on the quran that he's going to uphold the u.s constitution well you know we got to understand that muslims are allowed to lie to advance the cause that's right that's right folks if you aren't into purchasing the dvd encourage you to get a cd of this program a lot of information being given out on this particular interview you can call us for a cd become a cd subscriber as well that's very inexpensive you can sign up for my print in e-newsletters that's how i keep in touch with you and remember this program is always posted to my website saturday morning so if you're just catching half of this program today and you want to hear what you've been missing just go to olive tree views.org olive tree views.org and go to radio 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you or those you care about many are falling for these deceptions and delusions of our day stay in tune and up-to-date order deceivers today in today's world who do you trust for good insight on current events for that matter who do you trust for good bible commentary america is full of fake news and false teaching that's why we want to offer you an alternative to both we are understanding the times radio with jan markell and our main objective is to tell you the truth about current events as they relate to a biblical world view join us each week on this station for a source you can trust the other thing i'd tell donald trump to do is abolish tax exempt status for the churches because that has emasculated the churches around the country they hide behind that status and will not get involved in political or social issues okay so every christian if your church won't get involved in political or social issues find another church real quick the enemies within that's the topic of this edition of understanding the times here to wrap up today's conversation with documentary producer trevor loughton jan markell even the vital house intelligence committee has not escaped penetration and the job of the house intelligence committee of course is to oversee america's most sensitive intelligence programs how we collect intelligence how we assess that intelligence the kinds of options that intelligence the kinds of operations that we engage in to counter enemies of this country foreign and by the way domestic as well assalamu alaikum i'm congressman andre carson representative nancy pelosi as the senior minority a democratic member of the house of representatives now appointed representative andre carson to of all things the intelligence committee the u.s house of representative permanent select committee on intelligence or sometimes called the hips indiana's seventh district representative andre carson has extensive ties to muslim brotherhood fronts and operatives the intelligence committee in the house oversees the fbi's counter espionage and counter intelligence operations in this country these are critical capabilities and a man who has access to such information as i have to assume congressman carson is now being given such access and has such ties to the very people in some cases that should be the object of that kind of surveillance and counter activity it uh it makes for at a minimum a security problem representative carson appears on a frequent basis at conferences sponsored by held by care isna andre carson has had long-standing ties to organizations and operatives sworn to the destruction of our country there are those who are thinking that at this convention right now we're having secret meetings that we're plotting to destroy this country but i say to those who are here undercover a law will not allow you to stop us and welcome back well i've displayed another clip from enemies within dvd i've watched here recently produced by trevor louden from new zealand and find it at enemies within movie.com enemies within movie.com and i found that clip i just played to be extremely troubling participating in it you heard frank afney you heard claire lopez they've been trying to protect us as has phil haney and a number of others that we talk about or even talk with on this program michelle bachman is on here frequently sending out warnings that america is in big trouble because america not only leans left but america is too cozy with muslim brotherhood etcetera trevor going back here to this red green alliance again the alliance of communists and muslims to try to overthrow america and that would clip i just played from your film is so troubling and carson ends the little clip allah will not allow us to stop i don't even know what he meant by that but it's just it sound very creepy can you elaborate on this at all well look you gotta understand that andre carson serves on the intelligence body which oversees all 16 of your intelligence agencies the cia the fbi the nsa you name it andre carson has oversight over them he's actively involved with the muslim brotherhood and then he says if you think you can stop us allah will not allow you to stop us now now how what is it you think he means basically the guy is an enemy of the country yet he is serving on all his powerful bodies and he's not alone as i said there's a hundred members of your house who couldn't pass an fbi background check several serve on the intelligence committee several serve on the homeland security committee like betty thompson from mississippi who has a long time connection to cuba and the communist party and several serve on the armed services committee so and the education committee the judiciary committee etc so when you join the american military you take a note to defend the constitution from enemies foreign that's right domestic your domestic enemies are running crazy people you know there's all the focuses on the foreign enemies which are bad enough but which are going to do you more damage in the long term well you're right and then we haven't even talked about huma abidine and you spend a good amount of time in your film on huma abidine who she's not got indirect ties to the muslim brotherhood she's got direct ties to the muslim brotherhood she was hillary clinton's closest aide i've had many guests on here talking about this very troubling woman and her ties to islamicism talk to us a little bit about about that because you cover her very effectively in this film yeah well we've got to realize that had hillary clinton become president they think that huma abidine would have been the secretary of state she would have been your liaison between america and the rest of the world she is as extensive family ties with the muslim brotherhood which is the father of hamas and al-qaeda and she herself served on the muslim students association she was also involved with the journal of islamic thought which was another front for the muslim brotherhood and she was actually on the editorial board of that group she would have been your secretary of state she would be running your foreign affairs a woman basically working for the opposition and if you look at someone like tim cain who was of hillary clinton's vice president he was elected by the muslim brotherhood to the governorship of virginia elected to the senate by muslim brotherhood organizations and he had an extensive connections to communist movements when he was down in honduras as a young catholic layman so we find this all the time many of america's muslim leaders are actually marxists like linda sarsour the famous linda sarsour out of new york recently became a card-carrying member of democratic socialists of america so we have to understand that to confront islam we also have to confront the left because they are allies and they hate america they hate israel and they are working together over time to destroy president trump and everything that's good about america we have to understand the threat is is way deeper than most of us realize yes i would agree particularly after seeing your production here trevor louden if you could spend an hour with president trump what would you say to him and take your time i i really want to hear how you would advise him well the very first thing he has to do and he promised to do this but has yet to do it would be to designate the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist organization because if he does that he could shut down all these muslim brotherhood the fbi could shut down all these muslim brotherhood front groups right across america and that would have a huge liberating effect i would want him to get very urgent about getting the wall put up on the southern border and and basically shutting down all immigration to america for the next five years and definitely to shut down muslim refugee resettlement from the middle east that is absolutely vital that's not just to stop terrorists that's to basically stop an invasion of people who support sharia law which is in direct opposition to the u.s constitution i would also advise him to open up the energy field so america does not have to rely on saudi or venezuelan oil and and basically just reinstitute loyalty oaths for all federal government employees because the federal bureaucracy is absolutely infiltrated by communists and muslim brotherhood supporters and the one thing i would really really urge him to do is to make sure that betsy devos abolishes the department of education the biggest brainwashing operation in your country that is absolutely vital have you ever spoken with betsy devos no i haven't and i understand that they are cutting away some of the department of education's power right now which is good but they really have to just get rid of the department america had the best public education in the world for 200 years it was only under jimmy carter that we had a department of education which has given the federal government control of education all over the country and nobody can argue to me that education improves them if i was president for one day and i could do one thing i would abolish the department of education and then i would for the next day i would designate the muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization and i think those two measures would have a huge impact on america i think some listeners are right now are thinking you know what on earth can i do to make a difference and one of the things i think that comes out in your film with and effectively so is of course we have to vote and when so few even christians don't vote year after year there was an exception november of 2016 but how would you advise my listeners to come against this terrible issue that you've raised here this infiltration well you have to vote and the other thing i'd tell donald trump to do is abolish tax exempt status for the churches because that has emasculated the churches around the country they hide behind that status and will not get involved in political or social issues okay so every christian if your church won't get involved in political or social issues find another church real quick america depends on the churches your churches are the guardians of freedom and we have to turn the churches around and our next movie is going to be about the infiltration of the churches and how that can be undone okay again folks i highly recommend the film find it at enemies within movie.com enemies within movie.com and it's sobering and trevor louden has done just a fantastic job laying it out and not that it's not that long of a film either and he's interviewing lots of very very credible faces and names and you'll recognize a lot of them let me go out of the program just saying this and that is when a nation forgets god there are consequences and he was the cornerstone of our foundation but some 50 years ago leftists decided it was time to throw them out of america just as europe expelled god about the same time and that opens a door for evil and it opens the door for godless activity he's been as merciful as possible to america america remains the leader of freedom around the world but we have enemies within trying to undo that america's problems however they're really not political they are spiritual we cannot make america great again without making america god honoring again i want to thank you for listening and we will talk to you next week thank you for joining us for today's understanding the times radio with jan markell across america and across the world wide web we continue to report current events from a biblical perspective every weekend this broadcast comes to you at no cost but it cost us thousands of dollars as we produce and distribute this weekly media outreach would you consider standing with us with an ever-changing world men and women of faith need to keep informed they need to be aware of current events as viewed to the lens of scripture week after 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