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Telling the Future in Advance

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Telling the Future in Advance

Understanding The Times / Jan Markell

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With the tide of our times is both a privilege and a challenge to be born for such a time as this.

Know this.

I love that statement know this means you better know this is not an idle threat, but as an admonition born exhortation but know this, and we would always say what is it called when you want to know what this that in the last days or less times troubling time disturbing times will come today on understanding the times radio with Jim Markel. We feature two very special guest. They're both speaking and understanding the times 2019 on Saturday, September 21 near Minneapolis pastor Jack Hipps joined Janet our first segment and Dr. Robert Jeffers joins us in the second is Jim Markel pestered Cobb in the last days, walking according to their own lives saying where's the promise of his coming.

Mark that down everybody. The Bible says that in the last days.

There's going to be those walking around saying, where is the promise of the return of Jesus. That's a bunch of baloney. We've been hearing about that forever. I don't think it's going to happen. We got time we got time. Don't worry about that's ridiculous. Silly. Watch out for that. Watch out for that because it's everywhere right now. The belief, the doctrine of Christ community time is a mockery among many churches and I'm so glad you could join me for the hour.

I'm here to move right into our programming because my first guest for this hour special guest pastor Jack Hipps Kelby Chapel, Chino Hills, California will give contact a bit later and you might know him through real life, with Jack Hibbs on radio online. He's one of my speakers. Saturday, September 21.

Understanding the times 2019 believe this is his third visit to the Twin Cities and I had the privilege to minister at his church last January. And yes, the mocking and the scoffing of the glorious news that the king is coming, perhaps even today. While it is off the chart. Now the cliff that actually open the program is actually Jack warning about the perilous times that we are in. That's the reference to second Timothy three so I'm going to go in a couple of directions quickly for the 30 minutes that I have Jack Hibbs, welcome back to the program Jan, it's always a delight to be with you and I must add Jack. You said a moment ago when you did, and you and I spoke together on the platform, there's over 500,000 views, not dialogue God is radically blessed when we must've made since that night, Jack, who I know you did. I think we were a good team that night was just so happy to be out of Minnesota cold-weather clip you didn't hear Jack was you talking about the perilous times that you feel that we are dealing with today. Let me just ask you this, we could go on a number of directions talking perilous times because I want to get your take on what is the most perilous is that the apostasy in the church is it Mideast turmoil. Is it this new anti-God movement is at the dysfunction in Washington about cultural chaos.

This obsession with trans and LGBT Q Romans one depravity is at the wave of violence everywhere is at the love of socialism in America so much more I could list in your mind what is the most perilous that were dealing with chat.

I don't want to sound like I'm escaping the direct answer to your question, when I say for the first time in my almost 43 years of being a Christian and I have been blessed to a grown up under the ministry of Chuck Smith is Costa Mesa, California very very prophetically biblically eschatological. He connected I must say that what you just went down the list on view events are happening all at the same time they are the things that you really swear if you if you would've brought up three of those events I would've said wow my goodness were leaning in that direction generating you brought up is literally happening now on the headline news around the world. So how can we honestly pick just one.

How about this.

We talk about technology being bundled your Internet your phone been bundled in a package for the first time I got to be careful because I do want to be a sensationalist button the first time that I know of, and the last 2000 years we have got so many things that have biblical relevancy happening at the same time that you could almost as it were shoot in any direction and hit a target of something or bridging the or announcing the formation of an end time event. This is remarkable moment we got lawlessness as you said we a global breakdown of national borders. You and I know well that this is an advent to the coming of the Antichrist in a one world government cashless system tray did mention that, but it's there.

These things come in about I just got a new credit card in the mail yesterday and I had to call them up because I didn't understand it. Jan had a Wi-Fi logo that's on the credit card and I said what is this and they just said you don't need to insert your card any longer. You don't need to swipe this card anymore. You just wave it over the device that's at the store and it will do the transaction climatically just waving it over how much closer would it be than for me just to have that on my hand or my four head. It's moving in that direction yet were there Jan, we are in amazing moments.

I'm actually surprised that Jesus hasn't come close. I know you say that every time you visit my conference. Why are we still here when doing here what are we doing hearing the transition to that for just a moment and by the way, in that little lineup of things that I just stated of some of the bullet point options. I sent this new love of socialism in America in particular by younger folks and I happen to be in a waiting room.

Just this week, and I was listening to your presentation at your church on my iPhone on socialism in a twentysomething call, maybe six, 8 feet from he insisted I shut it off. I was sending him something big time and we kind of locked horns and then I was called away and I really wanted to discuss it but Jack, I saw the love of something that's very evil, wicked, and doesn't work in the eyes of this 23-year-old kid. I believe that what were saying regarding this adolescent portion of socialism is the rejection of God G God and the acceptance of a God v. NC that can meet all my needs, so to speak. If you look at the people who are pro-socialist, by far, hands-down by far. These are young people, and I don't mean to disparage our young people, but until your changing diapers make a house payment filling up your car paying taxes having to work for a living. In my opinion, your opinion is irrelevant until your having to live life in reality so you can theorize all you want about socialism, but what you're really asking is I don't believe in the biblical God because if I do now accountable for my sin and my lust in my stuff know I want a lowercase gone that I can just download money to from their bank account to mine. I don't want to work. I don't want to be responsible for anything, people tell me what to do.

I'll just toe the line and I'll be happy being an underachiever and that's fine with me and I just think it steals the heart and the spirit of human beings didn't engage him a bit in the campaign 2020 and I said I'm sure your Bernie Sanders, Shannon, oh my goodness, yes he was. Bernie Sanders was Messiah like to this twentysomething fellow and the anger in his eyes was very frightening to be honest and disrespect for someone substantially older than he is, but didn't matter because his idle is God was the God of socialism.

What that Jan is that today there is such an anemic so-called Christian population that will attend churches in their arts churches promoting socialism hello yeah Marco yeah you really growing in the remarkable thing about that is that the plan off the ignorance of the congregants because the Bible promotes socialism the exact opposites. True if the Bible that promotes personal responsibility, private ownership, in fact, it's the Bible that encourages you to work hard with your hand if you don't work hard. The Bible says, then you should you need anything right and it's funny because socialism only works when there is a wealthy people able to support it when those wealthy people are milked dry of their resources. Guess what you have. Jan, you have exactly the implosion of the church economy that happened in Jerusalem.

Remember that they had all things in common, which sounded really sweet in the book of acts that church wound up imploding financially and Paul on his missionary journeys took up elections to send to the suffering believers of Jerusalem would gone bankrupt, we forget about that. It's a departure from Scripture. Listen, how are we going to support missionary ventures and to reach the homeless and to help people in need.

If the church is not viable healthy, vibrant and working with its own hands to earn something to reach out and bless other people with out a free moral choice and spiritual commitment that the difference of the other clip I played is you and that is just a little short clip about the increase of the mocking and the scoffing on the way mocking the scoffing of the glorious good news that the king is coming back here someday could even be today, and I've heard you say I do follow you real faithfully online. I've heard you say that when church people have said to you that when you bring up this topic. Some people I'm sure there are in the minority, but that's irrelevant that they're going to come back when you finish your topic on eschatology in Bible prophecy. Tell me when it's over.

Another words, and then I'll come back and start listening to you again. I never thought I'd see the day Jack Hibbs when I would hear that kind of talk. You just reference your background and how you are influenced by Pastor Chuck Smith.

I was influenced by very strong little churches. I was in my teen and young adult years teaching the same kinds of things and so I welcome this topic that you are so gifted at presenting lateness of the hour and all the signs again.

I'm going to ask you what do you see breaking news every day Israel back in her land. Referring again to the predicted apostasy in this Laodicean aged Middle East alignment rush to globalism the cashless society that would be the most obvious as a stage setting sign for the return of the Lord Jesus. I believe I have to sit at the most stage setting sign. Jan would have to be the compromise of the pulpit apostasy is a church today. I put that in air quotes. It's a church today that would be completely unrecognizable to the first century church. It would be something that, if it's any thing biblical at all. Jan, it would be a church that is Leon the sand where Jesus is knocking on the door trying to get into it at best. But when you have a gathering together of thousands and thousands of people in a message is given on how you can think better about yourself and expect the real you to come to the surface where there's no cross there is no sin. There is no heaven there's no hell. It's all about the immediate now then I believe that we are so very right for an explosion Jan of false teachers and this and it is deceiving signs and wonders. Jan Jesus warned us that one of the crowning deceptive acts would not just be false doctrine.

It would be miraculous signs that are demonically performed and people would go headlong for them. I'm expecting Jana for not ruptured out here. I would expect that soon will see these false teachers deceivers that are personality presenters accompanied as Jesus promised with some deceiving signs and wonders that I would not be surprised to see it would be shocking and sad, but I could not be surprised that his stage and at a time like this. You and I are dealing with topics all the time that are sensitive in neither you nor I and by the way folks are listening to understanding the times radio Jan Markel you're talking to pastor Jackie abs Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, California. I'll say more about my conference in just a couple minutes check. We don't want to scare people. We want to prepare people. That's why you have your media outreach, be it radio be an online wherever you've got some kind of an outreach going on all the time your wonderful church were not trying to scare anybody yet. You've got some people in your church that say if you're going to talk in times tell me when it's over and I'll come back. I'm not going to come and listen to that and yet we've got the glorious good news. We've got the blessed hope, emphasis on the blessed hope and the blessed hope Scana turn in the blasted hope because of the way eschatology is being handled by some downstairs my audience.

The details on the nicknames of those who are dying said, throwing a monkey wrench in things where just simply trying to prepare people for eternity were supposed to were commanded to do this.

Isaiah told us to do this is Ezekiel told us to do this. And Jesus, the apostles, glorious and joyful exciting news that Jesus could come back at any moment in what's called the rapture the great gathering up together of the saints. I have to be blunt and honest. Jed I don't know any Christian really that denies the rapture.

I know that there's a debate as to when it's going to take place. But I don't know of any true Bible reading Bible study in Christian that denies the rapture their people deny it, but are not Christian because it is in the Scripture. It will happen.

The argument is too wet so when I look around I believe Jan and maybe I can share at the conference, the rapture of the church is so eminent that the biblical revelation of Scripture simply declares it to be something that is in fact eminent. And it is wholly separate from the nation of Israel and the seven year tribulation. Which is 100% Jewish, and context by design.

Daniel taught us that in Daniel nine versus 24 to 27 that the last seven years is all about God's holy city, and God is able a lot of Gentile or non-Jewish believers that all confused and they insert. I think sometimes because of replacement theology.

They take out Israel and insert the church and then say all look there is no blessed hope, we've got to go through this and we've got to die in the tribulation. In all, and that's what's going to happen.

No that's not what's going to happen, a look I could die for Jesus today. Let me make that clear. It's possible today that a guy would walk in with a machete or machine gun, take my life for the congregation or whatever that's called martyrdom. That's called persecution.

The seven years of that time promised is the last segment of the 490 years promised regarding Daniel's prophecy and its Jewish it's very Jewish. It has to be Jewish and it ends with a Jewish Messiah, returning not to Canada. I love Canadians but is not coming to Canada is not even coming to Southern California. He's going to Jerusalem. He's going to come to the land of Israel is foots going to touch the Mount of olives in the second coming is going to establish the throne of David in Jerusalem for 1000 years Jan that has to happen if it doesn't happen then we got the wrong Jesus. That's how important that his physical return to earth is, and it's a Jewish arrival in Jerusalem. I love it when you remind your audience that the God of the Bible will tell us the future in advance. Don't get all caught up in Daniel's 10 toes of the statue that he saw.

You don't have to get caught up in the typology or symbolism that God uses to speak to John. The book of Revelation and let that spook you out of knowing what the Bible says about the last days you understand that all of God's prophetic revelations in the Bible is yet you and others to understand that God keeps his word that God, the God of the Bible, not the man-made gods of the Colts or pagan religions.

But the God of the Bible is the only one who announces I will tell you the future in advance and listen. That is how you will know that I am God. The limen folks come on out there still tickets left for Saturday, September 21 just outside of Minneapolis Grace Church, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. Other speakers include pastors JD for wrong Robert Jeffress. Obviously my guest for today pastor Jack Hibbs from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. They are so funny. Yours truly, and others are going to be available the whole day. We will be live streaming it at no cost. Now let me give you just a quick word on the lifestream to stream the conference again no cost. You just visit my website olive tree on September 21. You can't do it today before or the day after September 21.

Of the a button on the homepage that will direct you to the olive tree conference live streaming page and you'll be able to strain the event on your computer for the entire day starts at 8:45 AM central time. Keep in mind, streamers that all times will be central time 8:45 AM to 5 PM, Jack, I do want to move on and it just another couple topics. While we have time I have on my mind campaign 2020.

I know you've got some great input from your friend Tony Perkins. I work with Michelle Bachmann and we're all trying to stay connected. As much as sometimes that is difficult, but the political scenario in Washington, which is clearly broken. PUC America going here in the near future. Now, campaign 2020 is going full steam. Let's put it that way again. I referenced the love of socialism. We talked about that love of some of these blatantly socialist candidates you and I've already referenced the cashless society a one world system how PUC America fitting into some of the things that were talking about. Let's say three years down the road five years down the road.

Do you think Donald Trump is going to maintain the stride that he's enjoying right now the concern I have is that he could make a serious mistake in the Middle East and Israel.

First of all, I guess people would ask me before the 2016 election who I thought was going to win. This was my answer to everyone who asked that I was interviewed across the nation on this question, Jack. Who do you think's going to win the election and I said it's hands down going to be Hillary Clinton… A miracle but numerically it's going to be Hillary Clinton… America a miracle took place just Trump was down something like 20 points before going into the election. What happened I don't know what happened but I think God intervened and the reason why I'm saying is because the pro-life position of America's politics right now is never been stronger. The issues of Israel being supported in our support of Israel's never been stronger. The issue of border protection, which is a biblical issues never been stronger. So these are really good things. Okay, granted we don't look to politics to be the Messiah. Having said that, as miraculously as Trump went in the office.

My goodness Jen. It could be.

Miraculously, as he is out of line 3 could be that the God of heaven says that's it.

It was a window for four years. I opened up I'm done.

I'm going to do something next. What concerns me about what is next is not that God's going to do what he wants to do next if he's gonna is my heart, Jan's heart, our hearts as believers really needs to be in the right place and that is trusting God with what God decides to do with America's friends, let's be honest, I think Billy Graham said it decades ago. If God does not judge the United States for her. Send then he will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. What I got news for you. He's never going to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, so we're living on borrowed time. Right now I don't know. I honestly do not know how the next election will go but this I know God reserves, no pun intended, by the way God reserves a trump card to be played by his people at any given time and that is that promise and second Chronicles 714 if my people, and that's the key. If we humble ourselves if we pray if we repent of our sins and seek his face.

Then God sends healing to not only Israel but to any nation.

Jen if Trump is out. For example, and the current tenor of the Democrat party is in. Then you can start to kiss private ownership. Goodbye you can start to kiss savings goodbye. You can start to kiss religious freedom of the reason the sanctity of a child's life goodbye. This current Democratic position Democrats of 30 years ago would not even recognize the course and I am very concerned and I'm also concerned for the safety of president from that in the time remaining that he remains safe, but I'm just watching the tone on the last they've got off a cliff. It's quite frightening. Again we keep referring to this new love of socialism and Jack. I don't know if the anticrisis can be socialist can be a Marxist skin be totalitarian.

We do know that he's probably going to govern under the barrel of the gun and I think that that whole season of the anticrisis church is gone.

Of course during that rain, but I believe it's around the corner. I really do and you and I are united in how soon we think it is were surprised we get up in the morning were still here. We say that all time is right. An interesting thing if people could step back from moment to remember the world for 2016 and genuine. I talked about this back in 2015 and 16 and it was this the world seem to be leaderless. There was no Ronald Reagan, there wasn't even a anybody anywhere. Leaving in the world seem to be just right for a man to rise up and to lead and by God's mercy because the world I know some Americans will grind her teeth at this but the fact is a lot of nations in the recent voting since 2016. For example, Great Britain, Brazil hungry Romania. These nations saw the rise of conservative leaders.

So right now to some leaders in the world but it takes one election to change all St. and it could change in a moments time and Daniel tells us that this antichrist figure that's coming that may very will be alive right now as we speak is that he's going to enter in on a cry for peace history and prosperity. Remember he's going to give them peace, Daniel warned us. You will identify him global peace and global prosperity will he achieve that by socialistic man's utter no. Will he achieve that by prostituting capitalism. I don't know what people will get rich and people will be thinking that they're living at peace and that's when the serpent strikes were suckers for that as humans give me money and leave me alone.

And that's the spirit of a human is I want to have everything I want and I want to be left alone in the antichrist is going to deliver for at least three years.

On that note, she could learn a lot more at Jack's website, real life, with Jack real life, with Jack you want to sign up, and yet is much as you can delivered to your inbox. Through his online ministry. He's on radio from coast-to-coast sees a lot of the Salem stations were. I years.

Well Jack I think you're on the botnet work to. Are you not yeah yes and that's a wonderful network as well as so glad that you're getting your voice out there multiplied many, many times over. Folks come on out and meet Pastor Jack as well as Pastor JD Farah Amir Stephani Dr. Robert Jeffress.

Yours truly again. We have tickets we still have some left $25 to general admission that includes a lunch.

Let me give you the brushfire number, don't call Olive tree but the brushfire agency is 88833853388883385338 $25 general admission tickets. The auditorium seats about 4500 to 5000 people would like to have it full for that day.

Saturday, September 21. I promise you you'll leave that day better able to understand the times contend for the faith and become watchmen on the wall Jack Hibbs looking forward to seeing you now in just a couple of weeks.

God bless you my friend, publisher Jen will see as soon stay in town.

Dr. Robert Jeffress is coming up just a couple of minutes joke away.

Yes, we are in perilous times. So thank you for trusting other studies of signs, radio all three ministries to make sense of it. If we made a difference in your world. Let us write us through our website. All of three that's all of three call a circle time 763559444 476-355-4444. We are available via mail by writing to follow through ministries and Jen Markel Fox 1452 Grove, MN 55311, Box 1452, Maple Grove, MN 5511. Also text you sold our website. All gifts are tax for every minute as Jen is joined by the times 2018 to come all the way from Iowa nicotinic from Vancouver, Canada. I'm Darlene from New Jersey I'm from the great state of Texas times. If you been to the conference on 19 Rollins and for bath the theater for such a blessing. Very informative and it's just a joy to see that people are saying the importance of enzymes study and eschatology. One third of the Bible is office pastors these days don't really want to touch on that plane swore Christ coming back and how the Bible are being layered, understanding the times 2019 is around the corner.

Saturday, September 21 just outside of Minneapolis you have your tickets yet not call the brushfire agency at 1888338533818883385338 or just go online to so in general admission tickets for $25 and that includes a lunch if you have purchased and cannot ask him please turn in your ticket to brushfire so others can purchase the figures include Dr. Robert Jeffress nurse are funny. Pastor JD Farah Pastor Jack Hibbs Jen Markel and Lori Cardozo more 8:45 AM on September 21, and conclude at 5 PM because the patient is Grace Church of Eden Prairie, Minnesota dear Minneapolis even hotels are selling out to visit our website. All of three go to our conference page or hotel information can a journey to Minneapolis event will be live stream at no cost solar website for details, and makes life housing like-minded remnant believers. Saturday, September 21.

Learn why things are falling apart. They are falling into place and what there is therefore now no doubt that the bread and some future time when God is going to pour out his wrath on me that, remember if you have tickets to our fall conference September 21, and suddenly cannot attend just give the brushfire agency is called to inform them will be able to be used by others. Call 188833533818883353. We have enjoyed getting to know Dr. Robert Jeffress at our conference activity in 2015 to September 21.

Pastors, First Baptist Church Dallas, Texas mostly popular. The outreach pathway to victory serves on Pres. Trump's advisory board chair Dr. Robert Jesus said, no man can know the hour.

No man can know the hour flight. He also said when you see these designs begin to take place, because your redemption draws that God wants us to be aware of what the world know people say, well, people been saying that since beginning of time.

The end of the world is coming. Jesus is coming back as a comeback, there's always been immorality in the world. There's always been persecution against Christians so why is this time different. When Jesus said these signs that precede his coming. They will be like the labor pains that a woman feels before she gives birth. Well, welcome back to the program were in part two hurt in that little my guest for this segment Dr. Robert Jeffress saying God wants us to be aware. Remember second Chronicles 12 sons of Issachar were men who understood the times they obviously were aware and yes, birth pains are worsening. What is result is a darkening headlines that all of us are struggling with and what I'm finding quite frankly, people not only are becoming more unaware there actually tuning out and joining me for this segment is Dr. Robert Jeffress again is one of my speakers. Understanding the times 2019 Saturday, September 21 literally around the corner. We have a little amount of time and a lot of notes in front of me. I'm in a plow through them as fast as possible. Dr. Jeffers, welcome back to the program.

Well thanks for having me Jan, really looking forward to the cop thank you so much. Glad you can be part of it.

Now I open here with the clip of you. God wants us to be aware. I also went on to say, I find people are tuning out. I find people cannot handle bad news.

I find let's just say for now in the genre of eschatology that not only does some of the information about the end times the seals of Revelation.

For instance, even if the church is not here that is perceived as bad news and no one I know can handle that kind of information in general because we got some love this information and fill up some church auditoriums to come in here that certain conferences let me go back to your comment.

God wants us to be aware and yet the headlines are dark.

I'm not sure how we do that what what short term forecast is dark and gloomy forecasters like sunshine because eschatology is about. Ultimately, the Lord Jesus Christ is returning back Jan I'm getting ready to start preaching to the book of Revelation wonderful diverse in our church on Sunday morning were calling this series I know conquest.

That's a victorious title because the fact is the coming of Jesus Christ means the end of the evil the suffering that same hardship that we have right now know Jan I get asked all the time. You know, after shooting in Dayton or El Paso like we just witnessed, and people so you know, they wonder what can we do to fix this. How can we fix this and it's not popular to say but John. The fact is, were not going to fix it. We do everything we can to lessen the herd of evil. I say human laws may regulate evil but they can never eradicate evil easily be eradicated until Christ returns. And that's what eschatology is all about.

So it's good news, not bad Jeffress. I believe that the end of the church age is very close and I realize people have thought that for a long time, but things I think today and were heading little bit into the end here of 2019, we have some things going on that we haven't had before.

Obviously, we have Israel flourishing as a nation. Now the eighth most powerful nation in the world. We have apostasy in the church we have a very unusual alignment in the Middle East with Turkey, Russia, Iran, all kind of coalescing we have a convergence that's emphasis on that word. A convergence of issues of predicted science we have mocking of all that were talking about.

For the moment anyway mocking that is absolutely off the chart and of course that's part of the signs of the times as well. Some of the things I've highlighted what would you say would be the most intriguing to you. That's a part of the signs of the times that we should be paying attention to. Without doubt in my mind.

Janet what's happening in Israel. What were saying the rebirth of the Israeli nation in 1948. What you see we just witness year and 1/2 ago the moving of the embassy. I say what is happening in Israel is probably the key sign that something is going to happen. I was so privileged to deliver the opening prayer at the embassy opening in Jerusalem, and Jan, I can tell you everybody who was there Christians and non-Christians alike felt there were something electric in the course goes about your Christian snow right after bright future plan for Israel.

And what I tend to agree with you.

I think the end is closer than it's ever been, but I remember my old friend Alan Colmes Fox news.

Yes me one time.

He said Pastor do you believe you're going to be alive to see the return of Jesus Christ as it Alan it really doesn't matter what it doesn't matter. I could watch figure this way I'm 60 years old and in the next 30 years. Either he's coming or I'm going but I'm to meet God sooner rather than later and so are you and the fact is Jan we ought to live our lives every day.

In light of either Christ coming retarded or are returning to him and that's what Bible prophecy is all about, not just what's going to happen but how we should live in light of what is going and actually I know you're going to cover some of that at our conference Saturday, September 21 folks come on out. You gotta get a ticket though it's just outside Minneapolis in Eden Prairie, Minnesota Grace Church remember the church asked us to take at this event. So we had to do that in the $25 that includes a lunch. Remember other speakers include pastors Jack Hibbs JD Farah Robert Jeffress is on the phone with me now Amir's are funny Yours truly and others will be present. It will be live streamed at no cost. Keep in mind the live streaming is central time. It is central time. So if you're watching East Coast West Coast me a little bit different time.

We got folks watching in Europe, Australia will have to look into the time change as well. I wanted just a quick heads up here. Dr. Jeffers has a new book coming out I believe he'll have it at the conference in some place called heaven for kids and again were taking the first part of the programming of this segment talking about things to come. Some issues that are going to be facing the church and all believers in the I think near future anyway. More for little bit later in some issues as it concerns our president Donald Trump Dr. Jeffers limit is ask you this question real quickly. Where do you feel the first of all, we've got a president right now who wants to make America great again fine that's tremendous. I'm not sure we have time to do that but at least he has a heart to six, a broken America and you and I know only Jesus can do that properly. Nonetheless, where do you see America fitting into the end time scenario. I mean, globalism is inevitable. The one world system is around the corner. Donald Trump stands in the way and I think that's important that he stand in the way and push back against what we know is going to be this inevitable. One world government, and I just did last week. An extensive interview with the Washington Post, and they asked me about why it is I would support present crop and I said what I don't believe he's going to re-create America that America is going to be how are you they shouldn't. The Bible doesn't allow for it.

I do think what Donald Trump and hopefully others will be able to do is to push back against the tide of evil that is engulfing our world so that we as Christians have longer to share the gospel of Jesus Christ, that all were asking for right now. I believe the president has a heart for this country. He is taking tremendous financial loss. You do what he's doing and it's because he truly loves America look you may not like some of the things about present crop you would have to agree. If your objective. He is the most pro-life religious liberty pro-Israel pro-conservative judiciary present we had in history, and I think that's why Christians by such large margins support him to listening to understanding the times radio Jan Markel here. I have on the line from Dallas, Texas, Dr. Robert Jeffress.

He's Pastor of First Baptist Church Dallas. He is a prolific author is radio and TV host. You can learn that stands for pathway to victory radio, television, online vaccination as well. Now he's a Fox News contributor. I asked him privately and we continue to have some confidence in Fox News. He believes we can and appreciate all that he contributes as a Fox News contributor may play a clip. Dr. Jeffress and want to play this summer to come back and ask a couple questions in your experience out there in these communities of religion are you finding president from support amongst evangelicals and people of faith waning, not at all.

In fact, it is growing and here's why. In 2016 when evangelicals voted for him knowing like I did.

They hope he would be pro-life religious liberty pro-Israel, but now they have seen him absolutely meet and exceed all those promises in 2016, he won on promises made in 2020. He'll win the evangelical vote by an even larger margin on the basis of promises cattle prediction Pastor. We appreciate your time.

Have a great one is Jeffress.

You sounded very very confident there are not sharing your enthusiasm and I think he has proven to be correct in the very areas you cited their very very strong religious liberty, etc. I think evangelicals remain encouraged wider to you.had a man lashed out at church come up to me. An older man. He said Pastor you may remember, I wrote you a long letter in 2016 telling you while you were wrong. Support Donald Trump but not this other candidate named. Thank you for ignoring my letter because you turned out to be right and yell.

The fact is Jan you remember during the primary time and Trump only had about 20% of evangelicals voted for him to rest for voting your supporting another Republican candidate during presented knowing they thought maybe he wouldn't or couldn't fulfill these promises that he made.

But as we look back.

He has had a solid record.

Look, he's a very transactional guy. He knows what he's promised to.

He has it in his mind and he's checking it off to me, that's just fine if we can have a president who will remember evangelicals instead of hating them like Barack Obama and yet I think that's a big plus for us. Well let me just quickly address an issue that came up, I believe it was towards the end of August yes and that would have been his comment about the chosen one, the second coming of God. I didn't hear it I'm reading about it online. Why did you set the stage and tell us what happened. These are two different things that came within one another. The first thing that happened was he was being bombarded with criticism for saying that American Jews who vote Democrat and support a party that is so while hostile toward Israel.

They are not being very loyal to Israel is absolutely right.

He's right absolutely absolutely right and so he retweeted a man who had said I can tell you how the Israelis reacted Donald from they think of him as the second coming of God and the king of Israel. Well, obviously that guy was speaking hyperbolic understand that Trump wasn't claiming to be the Messiah. But back point did accurately describe the enthusiasm I see in Israel. Every time I walk through the streets of Jerusalem. I have people who recognized me from Fox news lately. Can they say thank you for supporting Pres. drop. He is our president. And so I think is right to point out the disparity between Israelis and Jewish-American support for crop and they came to the chosen one. He was out getting ready to board. Maureen one and they were asking him about China and about the Lord.

He would and would China betrayed more and he said look, no other president had been willing to confront the Chinese and I'm willing to take the flat for doing that and Benny, looked up he says I guess on the chosen one speaking to you muchly. I mean he doesn't have a Messiah complex has a great sense for you. You serve on his evangelical advisory board, and I know others on the board and I have Michelle Bachmann in the studio here regularly. She's coming again in a month or so. She's had great input and asked have you and let me just ask you this because there have to be dozens 15 men and women.

I think some perhaps are more sound than others.

Does he listen to you. I suspect he does very inquisitive. He wants to know what different constituents that he has believe about things and you shot to share what he believes but yes he is very very receptive.

You know, I just have a little of life.

I don't tend to offer unsolicited advice to the president of the United States. But when he asked, I'm more than happy to share what I think is true, then very receptive and very respectful of that.

And I don't want overestimate the amount of time he asked me questions and so forth. But over the last four years, we become friends and occasionally go. Let me go back to some issues that will be touched on at my conference again that Saturday, September 21 folks we have already registered and were out yet a little bit. Anyway, we got folks registered from 46 states, six Canadian provinces and a bunch of foreign countries. This is kind of a place to gather where remnant believers actually make friends for life, so I hope that she will think if you haven't gotten a ticket yet still are some tickets to general admission and here's the number it's on my website. Olive tree but you can just call the brushfire agency at 888-338-5338 give that number again. Going out of the program. 888-338-5338.

Get your ticket or tickets for the event.

September 21, $25 I get you a lunch as well. I don't want to spend too much time here with promotion but I'm so privileged to have on the line from Dallas, Dr. Robert Jeffress, one of my speakers honestly. The theme of the day is all the speakers self included here are going to encourage you to be looking up to know that our redemption draws nigh and again I opened this segment of the program stating that folks are discouraged and looking at headlines that make them feel very down and that is why looking up at waiting. The blessed hope is sometimes the only hope that we have Dr. Jeffress there. I just gave myself a little bit of an intro into a topic you stress as July. The importance of the pre-tribulation rapture of the church. It is under attack. You know that sometimes the attack is very ugly and if it weren't for the hope of the rapture, then the blessed hope just became the blasted hope share your thoughts on the importance of this topic. Your message September 21 will be related to this, but the importance of that very specific pre-tribulation rapture. I good I would've preached on the topic liable the pre-tribulation rapture because I do.

I think one of the reasons people ladle against the pre-tribulation rapture is they really don't understand what we are saying they think the pre-tribulation rapture is an easy ticket out of any kind of suffering. You and I don't believe that the church is going to escape suffering that all throughout history, the church is always been persecuted. We in America right now are living in the little bubble which we have in some ways been spared that kind of constraint should but I don't think I will be forever. I think there will be more and more suffer even in our own country.

We suffered the persecution of man, but when we talk about the pre-tribulation rapture were talking about Christians escaping the wrath of God. No Christian is promised.

Exemption from human suffering.

But we are promised deliverance from the wrath of God. And that's what you need about those seven years we call the tribulation's. It's not just man persecuting man. It is God pouring out his wrath on Sands time and Romans 81 says there is therefore now no condemnation for those who been found in Christ Jesus, and the fact is if Hector Dred Jan some future time when God is going to pour out his punishment is wrath on me than the death of Christ was absolutely useful. Absolutely thank you for stating it that when you actually in one of your books in this ministry is carried the number of your books so the mentor bookstore in one of your books. You have an entire chapter on the purpose of the tribulation.

I say the tribulation is for the salvation of the Jewish nation and you have just stated so effectively that yes our time on earth. We are going to experience the wrath of man. The wrath of Satan never the wrath of God that is unsinkable. Jesus doesn't beat up the bride. Although he lets mankind beat up Christians rather regularly, but the tribulation is for the salvation of Israel. Yes, and I think there's a dual purpose of the tribulation. I do think it's for condemnation of unbelievers. Unbelievers will offer but I do think it's also a period of salvation. I believe the picture in Revelation 6 and seven is of both Jews and Gentiles coming to Christ in great numbers of the preaching of the hundred and 44,000 English witnesses even in the midst of the most severe judgment.

God could render on mankind. You see his mercy and using that seven years that 70th week of Daniel to fulfill his promise to the Jewish people and then again since you can learn stands for pathway to pastor of First Baptist Church Dallas, Texas. I have Dr. Jeffress with me in the fall of 2016. I think you talked about some of the things going on in America at that time Dr. Jeffress and some of the ways in which we've made some very serious mistakes before I forget, I think this is important and I think my audience would love to know ways you again. Going back to Donald Trump. Not a perfect man, but I think somebody that God chose for a unique time in history and gave the nation a reprieve at least a reprieve from some of the blatant, evil, and then we see some of the progressive left and how they're heading for fall of 2020. The election of 2020, which is extremely troubling. I think all the more to try to keep conservatism front and center. How can my audience. Pray for president Trump. First of all let me just say he really does value the prayer Christians. Pramod heard them say privately that you have the words that have come to mean the most to me over the last 2 1/2 years is when I hear people say I am praying for you and I believe that that means a lot to him. Please continue to pray for him from Alani up for their family.

Pray for the physical protection is pray for their wisdom is that you make decisions.

I'll never forget that picture. He pointed out, standing in front of both Wailing Wall importing at the bottom of the tweet. I am praying for God's wisdom I think. Pray for his continued encouragement. I don't see one sign that he's down or discouraged any time I'm with them I walked out saying I this is the most resilient human being is unflappable and that is not a person you want running your country but Jan, no precedent has had so much incoming from so many different no action. This president did and I don't know what people are thinking what it department gets discouraged. It hurts all of us that he hadn't succumbed that but let's pray for his continued encouragement. You know what other word of encouragement. I figure audience. It ever get discouraged. Look at all of the strong Christians that Donald Trump is placed around yes is a lot about the man Mike Pompeo tremendous Christian I prayed with him on the telephone, vice president pants, Rick Perry, Ben Carson, so many strong believers who are around this president and are encouraging him and having regular input into his life. That's a good word and taking out him paragraphs and one is your you send out daily updates are sometimes little devotionals. Just thinking out in a couple of sentences here from a recent one and you said this God will not allow anything to happen to you without a purpose. Nothing comes into your life that is not. First of all, been sifted through the perfect good loving will of God. Romans 828 says God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose. Everything that happens in your life as part of God's plan to shape you into the image of Jesus Christ. That is not saying that everything that happens. She was good.

It is saying that everything that happens the good the bad and the ugly is all working together for God, for a greater purpose.

I'm down to two minutes or so. Dr. Jeffress, but I want to plan what you've just written here because we have folks listening right now and their world is falling apart or they just had some of the worst news. Are they just had a terrible diagnosis that they been given or a loved one. Some things happen to them and that Romans 828 God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God and who are called according to his purpose.

I want to go out of the program focusing on that, it's all yours. You've got a couple of minutes if you'd like, but I think it's key because that verse Romans 828. It often pulled out of context. It doesn't mean as you said that everything is good, it doesn't mean that everything will immediately work out to a happy ending.

The good that Paul is talking about is not a full bank account Torah satisfying marriage or obedient kids. The key is verse 29 for whom God foreknew he predestined to become conformed to the image of his son. That's what God is allowing everything in your life to work together for make you more like Christ.

And you know you look at Jesus and says although he was her son, he learned obedience by the things that he suffered. Jesus worn through suffering and God uses suffering to make us like Christ.

That doesn't mean suffering is painless know it's very painful. But the good news. Jan is it's also temporary. One day when Christ returns, which is what Bible prophecy is all about.

There will finally be in suffering and that's why we call the coming of Christ the blessed hope, and then it is false it is sometime Sundays. It's the only hope is the hope of eternity, the hope of his return, the hope of heaven.

It's a glorious future. That's what we've been talking about we talk about that another things frequently on understanding the times radio Evan privilege this segment to have Dr. Robert Jeffress, First Baptist Church Dallas on the line coming out and medium will be doing some book signing that Saturday, September 21 literally around the corner now grace church Eden Prairie right outside Minneapolis, Minnesota live streamed at no cost. Keep in mind the live streaming is central time. If you're east or west coast or other countries. Keep in mind central time. Find out olive tree will get all ticketing live streaming speaker information Dr. Jeffress JD for Ron Pierce are funny.

Pastor Jack Hibbs and others will be with us that they thank you so much for giving up sometime today Dr. Jeffress looking forward to seeing you. That particular day in late September. Can't wait to see you all. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Just go out of the program here saying some comments because whether your church and those you love to hear about it or not. Jesus is coming back someday. I think sooner rather than later in the evidence is all around us.

The question is are you ready are you ready to meet the king of kings and the Lord of lords to be ready is not complicated. You just make Jesus Christ the Lord of your life today.

He is the King of the universe that he wants to be your life as well. Wanted to invite him to do that today I want to thank you for listening and we will talk to you next week.

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