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A former cabinet member reveals the existence of a secret governance system that operates outside the law, with a focus on financial control, surveillance, and medical manipulation. She discusses the missing $21 trillion from the US government, the role of the deep state, and the push for a global government. The conversation also touches on the use of technology to control transactions, influence behavior, and implement individual control.

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Is there a global cabal? Who are they and what are they trying to accomplish? We will discuss it. One of the things I've seen is having sort of mapped out and experienced corruption at the local and state level and seen it operate, you know, during the litigation I got the opportunity to see it every day in every way, all throughout the economy, all throughout the world. And I saw how control was instituted.

and how the general population was used to destroy freedom fighters. You know, so it wasn't just the deep state in Washington, it was everybody. One of the things I will say is the corruption is from top to bottom. Welcome to Understanding the Times Radio with Pastor Josh Schwartz and Ken Michael, Radio for the Remnant. Brought to you by Olive Tree Ministries.

In our program, Pastor Josh and Ken talk to Catherine Austin Fitz, a former cabinet member in the George H.W. Bush administration. We are living in the final moments of the last days and the global government is being formed. This is no mystery to those who know their Bibles. Here is today's program.

What do you mean? Can you define Mr. Global? As the committee that runs the world.

So there's a committee at the top that makes all the big decisions. And my nickname for it is Mr. Global. And so I was in the middle of the presentation, and I was talking about how Congress had held hearings in 1998 regarding narcotics trafficking by the U.S. intelligence agencies, the so-called Dark Alliance scandal.

And during the testimony, a reporter that I was working with had been told by a spokesperson from the Department of Justice that the U.S. economy laundered $500 billion to a trillion dollars a year of all illegal monies, making us the worldwide leader in dirty money. you know, they will swap it for the land. They will take the land. And so you're going to take...

$500 trillion of priceless resources. And you're going to make Rockefeller kind of Fortunes for a lot of private insiders. That's what it's it's going to be very then we end up, like Russia, with lots of horrible oligarchs. If you study Christianity and you read the Bible, you're dealing with Both divine intelligence and demonic intelligence. And I think too much of the leadership has gotten deeply involved in the occult and demonic.

kinds of intelligence. Welcome to Understanding the Times. I'm Ken Michael, along with my co-host, Pastor Josh Schwartz.

Well, we'd like to welcome for the first time to the program Catherine Austin Fitz. She's the president of Solari Inc. and publisher of the Solari Report. Catherine, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me.

It's a pleasure to be on. It's our pleasure to have you.

So, Catherine, in that clip, we heard you talk about Mr. Global, and we've certainly been talking about the globalists that are trying to change the way we live, change our society from a Judeo-Christian society to a secular society.

So, Catherine, Who exactly are these globalists, or is there one in particular that's in charge, or is it a cabal comprised of many people?

So I can only tell you what I've personally experienced and researched. And the honest truth is we have, we live on a planet where there's a governance system that's secret.

So we don't know the accurate answer. I couldn't walk into a court of law and testify as to how the system works. But let me tell you what I do know about it. What I do know about it is. you have uh A series of bureaucracies that run Most of the financial system within that governance system.

So you have. You know, the banks, the insurance companies, and increasingly now the transaction systems. that organize into a group of central bankers.

So the central bankers are essentially The bureaucracy that run the world, and they run the world subject to the ownership and equity of. What I would describe as intergenerational pools of capital. And there's tremendous amounts of cooperation. And competition in those pools of capital.

So, for example, you have an enormous Pool of capital behind the historically behind the Catholic Church.

So the Roman Empire, if you will.

sort of receded back into Rome and left in its place a church. And that church had groups in it that had diplomatic immunity and were exempt from taxes. One of the things you see about the most powerful intergenerational pools of capital is they usually have some kind of diplomatic or sovereign immunity and are not subject to taxes.

So in the United States, we see. The foundations and the endowments, and the big university endowments who You know, enjoy freedom from taxes, but also if you look at how some of them have operated. have been more or less protected from a lot of the law.

So after World War II, we created a whole series of bureaucracy globally, the World Bank, the IMF, and the Bank of International Settlements, which actually was before World War II, that all have sovereign immunity.

So what you've done is you've created a series of bureaucracies around the planet. That are free of taxes and free of the laws as we know them. And that process accelerated in starting in the 90s. In the 1990s, I was working with a group of the TAC Pension Fund investors and I was making a proposal on how we could re-engineer the U.S. economy to dramatically improve wealth and well-being.

The president of the largest pension fund in the country looked at me and he said, you don't understand. It's too late. They've given up on the country. They're moving out, all the money out starting in the fall. And that fall was the beginning of fiscal or the beginning of fiscal 1998 in the United States.

And suddenly tremendous amounts of money started to go missing from the federal accounts. I call it the missing money and by fiscal 2015 21 trillion dollars. Had literally been moved out in what I call a financial coup. And so now. We've arrived at a point where the U.S.

government has run significantly outside of the laws related to financial management. Both the Constitution and the laws and the regulations. You know, it's basically run on a criminal enterprise. And a lot of the corruption you're watching could only be happening if that was the case. A really good point there.

You said $21 trillion is missing. Do we know where that went? Who's behind it? I know you've talked about the deep state and the CIA that launders about 500 million to a trillion dollars a year. And you've talked about the red button theory that you spoke to a group about.

Maybe touch on that a little bit.

Okay, so we have a wealth of documentation at Solari, and our website is solari.com, but all the missing money documentation. Is it missingmoney.soleri.com?

So let me tell you what we know. from government documents. What we know is that The federal government, I was part of a group of people in the first Bush administration who got a series of law passed requiring audited financial statements. By the U.S. government.

So every year. Most citizens of the United States report their earnings to the U.S. government.

The idea is the U.S. should report its earnings back to you. But in fact, what started to happen was the government started to publish reports. Saying that we're not going to produce audited financial statements as required to laws. And one of the reasons given was they had large amounts of.

what they called undocumentable adjustments.

Now, undocumentable adjustments means they can't reconcile the books. and they can't produce audited financial statements.

So if you look at the amount of undocumentable adjustments, they were such astonishing sizes.

Now, as somebody who's run a big part of a federal agency, what I can tell you is. It's inconceivable that the U.S. government can track its financial spending. Right.

Now, an undocumentable adjustment can be money going in or money going out.

So, for example, after we invaded Iraq. we started to deposit the Iraqi oil revenues in the New York Fed.

So that could be, you know, an undocumentable adjustment in theory could be money coming in or money going out. Anyway, so I started to talk about the extraordinary undocumentable adjustments because some of them were happening at HUD. There's a trillion dollars missing since fiscal 1998 from HUD. And HUD is an operation I'm intimately familiar with. because I was the Assistant Secretary of Housing.

Under the first Bush administration, but then during the Clinton administration, my company, Hamilton Securities, was the lead. financial advisor and what I know is it's impossible for any material amount of money to be missing from HUD and it not to be findable and documentable. It's just You know, it's impossible. Anyway, so I started to highlight this and was working with a reporter. To really bring attention, by 2001, there was $4 trillion missing from Department of Defense and HUD.

And we were just about to publish on September 15th, 2001, a huge cover story in Insight Magazine, which goes to all the congressional office's complimentary copies. And on September 10th, Donald Rumsfeld gave a press conference at the Department of Defense saying, Oh, there's 2.3 trillion missing from the defense books. And the reporter and I thought he was doing a modified Hangout against our story that was coming out on Friday. But we know that's not the case. Instead, what happened was 9-11.

And in fact, many of the offices with the records. on the on the US government finances as well as related securities blew up that day.

So I continued to follow the missing money story. People stopped being concerned about the fact that the. DO Day wasn't producing the audited financials because they, you know, we were off and running on the war on terror. lots of new appropriations for DOD and the national security state. But I continued to follow the story until 2015 when The Army reported 6.5 trillion missing.

in one year. And I started to speak about it publicly, and a wonderful professor from Michigan State University, Dr. Mark Skidmore. Um Heard me and he said it can't possibly be right. He's a budget expert.

He went to the DOD and HUD financials and discovered, yes. This was documented by the government. You can find it all at missingmoney.zalary.com.

So he called me and said, how can I help? And I said, well, we've never done a complete survey of all the financials from 1998 to date. Could you do so? And so he and his students did it. And they identified, you know, I had the number up to $12 trillion missing.

They got the number up to $21 trillion now. These are all from DOD and HUD financial statements and financial reports. What we don't have is the bank statements and to understand how much money is missing. and how much fraudulent securities could have you know been issued you would need to have bank statements and you would need to have records of outstanding securities issued by the Treasury. And of course, we know that the bank account for the U.S.

Treasury is at the New York Fed, so you would need access. to the New York Fed and all the bank accounts of the you know, of the Treasury Department and the government now. Interestingly enough, in 1994, in October, the New York Fed and the Federal Reserve both became shareholders of the Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland. And the Bank of International Settlements operates under sovereign immunity. and can move money around the world and hold it on its balance sheet secretly.

So, you know, the question always comes up, where did this money go? And unless we have access to the bank statements, we don't know for sure.

Now what we do know is as money started going missing, There was, you know, it's like the Pillsbury Doughboy. I don't know, you guys may be too young to remember those commercials, but you, you know, you squeeze down on the doughboy one place and it pops up another. While the money was going missing from the U.S. government, the offshore havens were exploding in size. Of course, they were.

And we know that there was an explosion after 9-11 of. building of national security infrastructure now. I believe a certain amount of that money has gone to literally an endowment to build A global government because if you get enough money and endowment, you don't, you know. You don't need the citizens. You've now got interest and dividends on your endowment.

You can run a global government. You can run a secret military. You can run all sorts of capacity. And again, you you said it there. It's not a mysterious thing.

This is happening and it is easily traceable that there's something Out there that creates a separate society and a globalist control. Right, but this is not this is not like the deep state doing this. This was all of our representatives and President Trump who did this. Yeah, but you built it. It wasn't any secret people.

Right.

If you listen to the Red Button story, It's 99 out of 100 spiritually evolved people saying they would not push the red button.

So, this is not like some secret society. I'm not saying that there are definitely secret societies off there, and there are definitely groups like the Ilseberger making big decisions, but let me assure you. You know, that the corruption is not in Washington and Wall Street. It is from Sea to Shining Sea. Sure.

Yes, it is.

Well, Catherine, I've got another clip I want to play for you and then get your comment on it. And what has happened in America is we have put our head in the sand and we have allowed the criminal syndicates to get more and more powerful and more and more powerful. And the more powerful they get, the more hubris they develop. And what we're seeing now in current events is a push for central control, taking digital technology and new technology, including invisible weaponry, and saying, okay, you know, crime that pays is crime that stays. We keep getting away with it.

And now we're going to take that technology and we're going to move to complete central control.

Now, when I say that, people are always skeptical because we've lived our whole life with incredible liberty and we've begun to take it for granted.

So I want to show you a little bit about what central control looks like financially and what we can do about it. And you need to understand with new technology, what can be done to control your transactions is remarkable. Just before I'm going to play a couple videos for you, before I do, think about at the beginning of the pandemic. Think about what they did to the truckers shutting their bank accounts down. If they could have shut our bank accounts down at the beginning of the pandemic, think of all the businesses they could have closed in Tennessee that they weren't able to.

You're listening to Understanding the Times Radio. I'm Pastor Josh Schwartz with my co-host Ken Michael, the radio show that was founded by Jan Markell. Today we have a special guest with us, Catherine Austin Fitz.

Now, Catherine, we've talked about how there is a not-so-secret globalist control that is immune to the law and immune to reporting taxes. But can we dig a little bit into, say, the surveillance side of that whole scenario there? Right.

So the surveillance has been growing for decades. You know, God Love Hollywood. They will explain to you how it all works. One of my favorite movies is Enemy of the State. Sure.

Great. I once I got onto it because I was at a conference once. And I had had a very long process of litigating with the Department of Justice. And as a result of that litigation, I dealt with an enormous amount of both legal, financial, and physical harassment. And because of that, I had to dig in and understand how all the covert operations of control work.

It was an enormously, it was like an outward bound program on. Covert operations. But if you look at the movie Enemy of the State, it was made in the 90s. I think Raleigh Scott was the producer. What it shows you is, you know, after World War II, the NSA really built this surveillance juggernaut for the government.

But as things grew, other governments did as well. The Israeli government is famous for their cybersecurity skills. And you had British intelligence very much involved with the US infrastructure on the surveillance. Anyway, but you have a variety of different intelligence agencies. who are building, building, building the capacity to watch everybody in real time and influence them.

it's it's a two-way street yes it is um increasingly but you also had You had waves of people leaving the intelligence agencies who create private firms that could do the same.

So now you have a real spread of people. who have very invasive technology to track and surveil other people. and use it in a variety of ways for business advantage or personal advantage or dirty tricks of various kinds or just political control. And it's one of the reasons you see so much controversy around election fraud or other compromises of digital systems, because so much of the. You know, the competition is is comes through those systems, but So we have a surveillance system, but now what we're doing, and it's been growing steadily for decades.

we're putting into place the capacity For that system to not only track you on a highly economic basis. But to mind control you on a highly economic basis, so influence who you vote for or what you buy. But also turn your financial Transactions on and off.

So, you know, if I wanted to, you know, shut off the bank accounts. For the truckers, I can do it and I can do it very easily.

So you have financial transaction control. Or if I want to have lockdowns, nobody can leave their their money won't work if they leave their home. Or if I decide you shouldn't eat pizza for your health care plan. You know, your money won't buy pizza.

So So, there's a real effort to build this financial transaction control all the way up to what we see now in the latest war with Iran, the ability. to literally identify the 11 top military leaders and nuclear scientists of a country and just kill them. And so, whether it's financial control or physical control. or mental control, you're building a, some people call it the panopticon. you're you're building a digital panopticon that literally Can implement individual control one person at a time.

We have a great Salira report called Control and Freedom Happen One Person at a Time, because the beauty of this system. to the people running the world is that AI and software allow Uh I allow them to track each person. and influence that person or direct that person or impact that person. in very unique one-by-one ways.

So for example there's a You bring up an interesting point there. You're talking about the global surveillance system, the digital surveillance system, AI and all that. Do you see the medical system playing a part of this, i.e., let's say mandatory vaccines? Do you see that coming into play at all?

So I see the medical system as primarily a control system.

So in 1995, Remember when I said the leading pension fund leader had said they've given up on the country. They're moving all the money out starting in the fall. Yes. He, in my opinion, he was referring to the budget deal that collapsed in 1995. And it was right after that.

If you look at All tip.

So what the leaders of the financial system was trying to do is get the retirement system on a financially sound basis and get the budget on a financially sound basis. When they failed, what I believe happened is they said, that's it, we give up. This mechanism won't work. We have to create a new governance mechanism.

So democracy doesn't work. And you'd heard that in Washington in the 90s all the time. Democracy no longer works. We're moving to a new system.

So I think they decided to have a coup by financial means. You create a new sort of governance structure. You steal all the money from one system and you move it into the next. And I think. That was going on.

But what happened was: if I can't balance the retirement systems financially, then I have only one other way to balance them, and that's to lower life expectancy. It's the only other way you can balance the books in theory. Lower life expectancy and population control, right? Exactly. That's what it is.

Well, In theory, you could raise the retirement age, but politically that's not going to work.

So literally, the budget deal collapsed in October 95. The next month, The FDA approved OxyContin and HUD started to do the predatory lending in the poor neighborhoods. And if you look at life expectancy of the top 20 industrial countries, It's all going up together. And then starting right then in 1996. 19 continue up and the U.S.

starts to veer off and diverge from the other 19. And life expectancy starts going down, down, down. And then it hits the pandemic and it goes off the cliff. Wow. And I think, you know, so.

What I believe is happening in both the food and the medical system is You are organizing what I call a great poisoning and systematically reducing life expectancy. Yeah, it could be. And it's a plan. It's not. No, one of the things I'll say, because I did spend time in the establishment with the people.

the top people who run the financial system. These are very capable people. They know what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

In Washington, if you, you know, if something. We used to always take the name of any bill that passed and inverted so that we could understand what the real goal was. But Um, you know, is something's headed in a direction with life expectancy going steadily down? then if the leadership doesn't want it to go down, they will you know Sit, you know, they will get together and say, okay, what do we need to reverse it? And then they'll reverse it.

But if you look at the policies, not only are they not reversed, but great effort is made. in terms of disinformation propaganda and all sorts of other things to keep them going. In that direction, which means that that is where they want to go. I used to, when the pandemic came along, I had just the year before been. I always tell the story.

I was sitting in the parking lot in Bolivar, Tennessee. I was. running errands and I stopped the car to talk to Dr. Skidmore and he kept saying, Why do you keep Why would you give up talking about the missing money? Nobody cares, nobody's listening.

you know you're banging your head against the wall and i said don't you understand mark If we don't do something about this, the only way they can lower, they can balance the books is to lower life expectancy. And so when the pandemic started, I said, okay, well, here it comes. Wow. Well, our guest today has been Catherine Austin Fitz. Catherine, we want to thank you for joining us today.

How can people get in touch with you?

So we have I have two businesses. One is the Salera Report and our Goal is to help you have a good map of our world, both the official reality and reality, so you can navigate successfully. And I also have another business called Soliri Investment Screens. I used to be an investment advisor, but I kept getting so many. requests from clients and and people to help screen equities.

You know, they want to invest in productive companies and not companies engaged in transnational organized crime that we brought up an investment screen company.

So, and you can find, it all starts at saleria.com. I've been talking about the missing money, and I encourage you to go read a wealth of documentation at missingmoney.saleria.com as well. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to this discussion in part two next week. Me too.

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