How Do You Get Ready For a Wild Ride?

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Like, if you ever had to get ready for something that you knew, like this is going to be different. How do you prepare for a wild ride? 866-348-7884. 866-34-TRUTH. And you know, every time I do Truth Talk Live, to an extent, it's a wild ride, especially if I have along sometimes my sidekick, Dr. Date the Word Carson with me. So, this is going to be a wild ride, right Doc? I'm looking forward to a wild ride with you, Robbie, because we're going to be hearing some great stories about wild rides.

We are. We got Riot Rogers with us, and he is with the Pro Bowl Riders Association. Actually, the Velocity Tour, pretty cool. That's the best of the best. And they are preparing for the Nutter Arena here March 21st, 22nd.

You got a Pro Bowl Riders event up there in Dayton. And Wyatt, so, you know, just to answer the question, we're hoping all the listeners will call in at 866-348-7884 and tell us, how do you prepare? Like, you're sitting in that chute, and you're sitting on top of something that could easily kill you. Oh yeah, it's just, go ahead. No, no, you go. It's just all reactions at that point. You actually don't have time to think about anything. Once you're in the chutes, I mean, you got a 2,000 pound animal that moves as fast and as hard as he does, you don't have time to react.

It's just kind of a high-paced two-stepping song, and he's leading the dance, and I gotta follow him. And so, does your faith enter into the picture there somewhere, Wyatt? Does my what enter into the picture? Sorry, I missed that. That's okay. I know you're traveling right now on your way to Dayton, your faith. Like, are you praying? You know, what, are you experiencing this with God, and if so, what way? Yeah, definitely couldn't do this event without God. I mean, this is the most dangerous sport there is in the world. I've seen a handful of people pass away in front of me doing this, so definitely seeing close to God and understanding that, and I got a prayer that I pray every time when the event starts, and when I put my bull up on my bull in the back, I just put a hand over him to say a quick prayer, and then it's all in his hands.

This is what he put me and the bull on earth to do, and I truly believe that, and everything's in his hand, and if something goes bad, at least I was doing what I love. You know, they have Cowboy Church a lot of times at the pro bull riding events, and they had one, I'm trying to think of the name of the arena. It's down, it's in North Carolina, but it's in the mountains, and ESPN was there, and a guy from ESPN was filming the actual Cowboy Church, you know, and afterwards, he came up to me and he said, Robbie, would you mind if I did like a little documentary on you? Just, I want to interview you, but I want to do it on documentary, and I said, sure, but I don't understand, and he said, well, you know, when ESPN gave me this, because at that point in time, I think there was a million dollar prize, is that right? Why, that sometimes ESPN puts up, or somebody does a million dollars for somebody that can win two events in a row?

For the professional bullrudders, our year-end prize, you'll compete the whole season, and the year-end winner gets a million dollars. Right, right, and so what his job was to do a documentary on why people would risk their life for a million dollars, and what he said was, he goes, well, Robbie, when the first guy told me that, you know, this is, I'm in God's hand throughout the thing, I just thought he was nuts, and when, but when the second guy and the third guy and the fourth guy told me, you know, I thought, well, man, there's something to these guys' faith, and so the faith of these bullrudders that affected this reporter from ESPN, and so for the, based on their faith, he listened to the message that I delivered that day at the pull, which had to do with my own walkthrough cancer in my own testimony, and you could see the effect that you guys' faith had had on the CSPN announcer, and so, you know, God gave you a platform. It's amazing how that works out in your life, right?

Oh, yeah, no, it's truly amazing. With the PBR alone, there's an amazing deal called Grit & Grace, and it's about women and young ladies overcoming obstacles in their life, and just coming to the bullriding events and, I think, getting a look at how we face adversity head on, I mean, just with injuries and, I mean, just our day-to-day life, facing a 2,000-pound bull that could hurt you very badly, I mean, just learning how to overcome obstacles and dealing with faith and just having God by your side, and truly, anything's possible with Him in your corner. Right, and so, we need you out there listening. Like, you've had a wild ride in your life. It may not have been a bull.

It may have been something else, and you had to prepare for it. I would love you to call in. This is a live show, and we need you.

866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. Wyatt, when you were describing things a minute ago, you said you have a prayer that you pray. Would you feel comfortable sharing what that prayer sounds like?

You know, I'm very interested. Like, what would a bull rider pray right before he jumps on to something like that? Oh, the key aspect is just kind of taking care of my mom's home alone now. My dad passed away in 2015, so just watching over her, and then all the other bull riders and the athletes, and then help that go into producing an event. Pray for them, men and women overseas fighting for our freedom. I just thank them for everything they sacrifice to help make it home safely to their families.

And meanwhile, like us bull riders, when rodeo people across the world would not drive 10 or 11 hours overnight to go to the next rodeo, so just pray for safe travels, and thank God for allowing us to do anything that we can love. Right, because as you say, there's so many—that's a beautiful thing. There's so many people that are involved. You've got those clowns that are risking their life. You've got the men in the chute. Then their own way, they could have something. You know, you've got all sorts of people. And it was interesting. We were recording Date the Word, Dr. Carson, right before actually we did this show, and you were talking about praying selfish prayers.

Yes. Yeah, that's the kind God doesn't answer. But when you're getting ready to do what God's called you to do, equipped you to do, you're asking, Lord, I need your strength. I need your help.

I need your wisdom right now. Those are the kind of prayers he does answer. But also, I loved why I was praying for his mother. He was praying for the other riders. He was praying for—you know, it's fascinating. It was anything but the same thing.

It was anything but selfish is what I was listening to. That's amazing. So we need your call. 866-348-7884. This rodeo is coming up in Dayton this weekend, the 21st and the 22nd, at the Nutter Auditorium. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Darrell Bock Welcome back to Truth Talk Live! Today we're so blessed to have with us Wyatt Rogers and the Pro Bull Riders Association.

He's one of their riders coming up for the Dayton, Ohio PBR event, which is happening at the Nutter Arena, March 21st and 22nd. The question for you as you're listening today—and it's a great question—you know, how do you get ready for a wild ride, right? You're sitting there and you're fixed at whatever you may do. You know, in our case, we do radio shows, and there is a preparation that's involved in it. And, Doc, you had a great question for Wyatt. Wyatt, I'm curious, how do you prepare yourself to then ride a bull for that eight seconds before the event takes place? You know, basketball players right now, they're getting ready to go on to a court.

They're going to do a shoot-around. What are you doing before you get on that bull, say, a half hour before you get on that bull, 50 minutes? How do you get yourself prepared to ride for eight seconds?

Well, I mean, it goes back to the countless hours that you don't see even during the week. Like, I have to eat right, watch my weight, treat my body as a professional athlete, to working out. And I can't really lift weights because then I'll get too big. You don't want to be muscular in the sport of bull riding.

You want to be limber, flexible, and athletic, and just being able to react as fast as you can because you have to make millisecond decisions. But the day of the bull riding, you'll catch me. I'll go do a quick workout in the morning, then do a light launch because I don't like to feel heavy whenever I'm going to get on a bull. And then within an hour, I'll start going back to my basketball days in high school, and I'll do high knees, butt kicks, slides, lunges, stuff like that to get my muscles active.

Just our sport, it's really hard on the body, so you tear a lot of muscles in your groans, your knees, shoulders. So you just want to get loose as you can and be prepared for when the gate opens. Yeah, and speak to a second, you know, that second the gate actually opens, you've got to be present. Like, that bull's not going to be the same as the last 15, is it? Oh no, they each bull's different. I mean, they got their own mindset, and even if the same bull has had that, had a trip 20 times in a row, well, he's an animal and he could do whatever he want.

He might not do that same trip, same steps the 21st time. So it's all reactions, and you're just trained your whole life to do that. It's no different than getting in the car and kind of, you're playing defensive driving against the other people driving down the road. Or, you know, when you're training to read the Bible, right? We've done that all our life, and you start out, right, as a kid, right?

Can you kind of take us down that road? Yeah, I started out riding sheep, and even before that, just when I was in my mom's belly, going to rodeos, and it was in the lifestyle, they said I'd sleep through all the rodeo events, wake up for bull riding. So it's just been the only thing that I ever really wanted to do as a job, and since I found out you could make money at it. And it took me to all aspects of life. I got to go to college at Southeastern Oklahoma State, and I ended up with a bachelor and a master's degree from there.

So that's something I never thought I would do, and just I'm very thankful for where the sport of bull riding and rodeos brought me throughout life, and helped with being able to impact the next generation to come. Just curious, what was the degree in? Sports administration is my master's degree. Okay, and your bachelor?

Sports management is my, recreation and sports management is my bachelor's. How cool is that? And so, like, take us back to your sheep riding days.

Like, there you are. How old were you when you started riding these sheep? I got on my first sheep at two. I don't really remember much of that.

At two? Yeah, well, I hit the dirt pretty fast, and they gave me a blue ribbon, and I was hooked from there, you know. It wasn't bad. Sorry, I had to throw that in there.

Nick, I know you appreciate that. Anyway, so you were two years old, and they put you on a sheep. What happened after the sheep? I started riding calves when I was four years old, and then went on the steers when I was about eight years old, and then I got on my first junior bull whenever I was 11, and just went on through the ranks. I mean, you have junior high rodeos and high school rodeos that you don't necessarily compete with whatever school you go in. You just compete for your state.

They have junior high and high school rodeo in about 40 different states in the U.S., and you go to, you compete all year to make a nationals, and the national is in either June or July, depending on June in the Junior High Association and July in the high school, and normally somewhere in Rock Springs, Wyoming to Gillette, Wyoming, somewhere in that area in the summer. Wow, and so, like, was this a year-round thing for you all these years? Oh yeah, it's been a non-stop. Normally, if I'm not somewhere on a weekend it's because I was hurt. It's not because of any other reason. Well, inquiring minds are kind of wondering, have you broken any bones doing this?

Of course. Well, I don't know the true number because in our sport you don't count noses, fingers, toes. It's got to be a pretty major bone you actually go to the hospital for. Broke my right leg in four places in 2021, but that would be about the only bone that I could tell you for sure that I broke.

Didn't go to the doctor for any of the other ones. You know, Wyatt, when we're talking about people giving their lives to the Lord, serving the Lord, sometimes got to call someone to do something, be a missionary, to go to an area that is unreached. I'm just kind of curious, did you ever find someone saying, man, you're just crazy? Oh, I get that all the time. I mean, what I do for a living, it's crazy. I'll go to the chiropractor every week and the chiropractor, they'll be like, well, what's your pain scale this week?

I said, well, I mean, my pain level is about a four, but for someone in your world that'd be about a 10. And just, I get called crazy, but I truly believe this is what I'm on earth to do and influence people around me. Yeah, yeah. So that is so cool. And again, we have all these folks out there that you feel free if you've got a question or a comment, or I would love to hear about your Wild Ride, whatever that may be that you prepare for. The number to call in and share is 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. And I want to remind our listeners, those who are in Winston-Salem area and some others in North Carolina, you only hear the first half of the show, but the people in Ohio, where the rodeo is going to be, you're going to hear the whole show. And so at the break, that's going to be going on.

But again, it's a live show and it's best really with your calls, 866-348-7884. And so have you ever had a chance, based on the platform God has given you as a rodeo, as a bull rider, essentially, that was just obvious that people were asking about your faith and that led to a fruitful conversation? Yeah, I kind of mentioned the Grit and Grace organization earlier. They come to a handful of the events and I like to come and speak at it and just listen to the girls' stories, but also talk about my testimony and the stuff that I've faced throughout my life and how I chose. There are two different paths you can go down whenever you're faced in Crossroads.

You can take the more pitiful me and why is God doing this to me, or you can turn it around and use it as a teaching lesson and just show that you can be better and you can use it as a motivation. We got to go to a break. Wyatt, you can hear we're loaded for bear. So stay tuned.

We'll be right back with a whole lot more. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Darrell Bock Welcome back to Truth Talk Live, today's show, how do you get ready for a wild ride? Maybe you've had that situation where you found out, wow, I'm going to have to go talk to the doctor about my cancer that I did not know I had, based on a biopsy report, or maybe you had a tough relation situation where all of a sudden you've got to have a discussion you really, really don't want to have, or who knows what that wild ride may be.

You do. It would make a great testimony. We would love to hear it. 866-348-7884, 86634 truth. And as we finished up that first half, Wyatt, he's one of the cowboys in the Pro Bull Riders Association that is competing in the Velocity Tour. Essentially, the Nutter Arena has got this bull bull rider event March 21st and 22nd. But you were just, Wyatt, you were just talking about how when you talk to these ladies that apparently that's the kind of thing you were talking about is some of the tough things that you've faced in your life and how God helped you overcome them.

Wyatt Smith Yeah. I mean, most of them ladies, they've overcome cancer or losing a limb or something, like some kind of major struggle in their life has happened to them already. And so they're looking for other inspirations or even if it's just someone to lean on when they're struggling, like they just need a little bit of support. Well, I like to share my story about how I lost my dad. My parents had just went through a divorce before that. I was living with my dad at the time. And the day that I lost him, it didn't really deal with my emotions very well, but I went to lure riding later that day. It's just because I knew that my dad didn't want, everyone was at my house, sitting around crying and hoping and just feeling sorry for themselves and everything that had happened. And I just knew that my dad wouldn't want me doing that.

He'd want me out doing what I loved and cherishing him in my heart and carrying him with me and his legacy on with me as I live life. Wow, that is so sad. How did your dad pass?

He unfortunately committed suicide. Oh, that makes it triply difficult. Really, really difficult. Yes, sir. And yeah, and so when you add that into the equation, that particular night, you're getting ready to get on a bull. I can't imagine all the different emotions that you were processing. Do you remember anything special God gave you that night?

Just at that time, I was 17 and just knowing that where I was meant to do and what I was meant to do and what I was meant to be. And my dad's mom, my grandpa, and even my mom at the time, like just knowing that they were going to be the ones that was weak. And then I had to be, for say, the man of the house and the man of the ranch at that point.

Like, I didn't want to show weakness, which you have to occasionally someone, which my person that I showed it to was God whenever I was in private and people around me. Wow, that's an incredible story, really. When you think about it compared to a 2,000-pound bull, I think I would take the 2,000-pound bull over having to face that particular one. And so, Dr. Carson, you had another question for him about wild rides. Well, I was just curious, Wyatt, in your journey here riding bulls, do you have that story of, that was the wildest ride I've ever been on? Oh, there's some wrecks and kinds like that. I've just been spinning through the air and just like, dang, that was fun, but in a very exciting way.

See, I'm hanging on your word right there. I grew up on a cattle farm and my dad owned a livestock market. And it's an area, for me, I ended up on a few bull rides unintentionally, but I've always enjoyed.

And when we were living in Columbus, there was a big event there. I told my wife, I said, let's go see this up close and personal. And so even now when I'm flipping through the channels, I see a rodeo going on. I want to watch it. I want to see it. I want to see a rodeo going on.

I want to watch it. I, there's just something about it. I don't know how to explain it. So doc, you got to tell our listeners, you know, how do you end up on a bull unintentionally?

How exactly does that happen? Sometimes when you're going through a field checking cattle, they guard their territory. And I've had a couple that I was not paying attention enough. I guess I get some spiritual lessons of becoming more alert, but I had a bull come up on me and then I had a cow. I was working with her calf and next thing I know, she had me up on her. She, she flipped me. So, so they reached their like head underneath you and they flip you up in the air. Yeah. Yeah.

It was, it was very scary. And so, as I watch you guys, Wyatt, I get, I, I know that you've chosen this, but there's something thrilling about it. But I also think you're probably one of the few athletes that quite frankly can put into practice praying without ceasing because here we go and who knows what's going to happen because every ride is different. But I was just curious, what's been your biggest thrill? Let's go that way also where there's the wildest ride, but with your career, what would you say has been the biggest thrill?

So to relay back. So I lost my dad when I was 17 and to be a professional, you got to turn 18. So I lost my dad in May of that year.

And then in October, I turned 18. I got to go to my first professional event ever a week after that in Mercedes, Texas. And at that event in particular at the time, they had the most added money than one of their events had ever had without 73,000. So as an 18 year old kid, I was going to my first ever pro event and had the most money that there had ever been added.

Well, I went three for three that night and I won 42,000 and got there back to high school on Monday morning with a lot more money. Wow. Yeah.

Back to high school where everybody thinks you're crazy. And, and for our listeners, three for three means that you wrote all three bowls for eight seconds each time. Yes, sir. Yeah. And then you went home with more than a trophy. Yeah, I guess so. I still had McDonald's for dinner that night.

That was a wise, wise move. As you know, just like we can hear from your education, Wyatt, that, you know, you've obviously realized that at some point in time, bull riding will be over, right? But how old are you now? 28 now.

28. And so do you have a target in mind where you're going to step off? I truly believe that like, that's just something God's going to put in my heart whenever it's supposed to happen.

This is the event that you have or the sport that you have to be fully dedicated. And if there's any doubt in your mind, it's dangerous enough. That's when you normally get hurt. So the day I started doubting that will be the day I retire. And I don't really have a age that I can tell you that that's going to happen. I don't know if that's one of the things that I believe in God's hands and when he puts it on my heart, then I'll be done.

Then I'll be done. I love that, right? It's kind of like I once did or I do a devotions at a retirement home. And there was a lady who she was at the time about 96. She lived to be 104. And at 96, she was running around getting people up for devotions, getting it. I mean, she just, she was so active in doing things for her church and for the Lord.

I was like, well, at what point, Ms. Beck, do you slow down? And she said, Robbie? And she quoted some verse from Ecclesiastes.

She said, once you're inscripted in the war, you don't get out until the war is over. I've never forgotten that. I love the way, you know, if you're going to do this, you got to do it with your whole heart, right? And that's quite a lesson to all of it itself, right? Yeah.

Yes, sir. I mean, I believe anything in life, you just need to go at it with your full force. My dad always said to do everything with your 100 percent. There's no point in having something in life that's not worth doing.

Right? Exactly. If you're going to do it, you know, and again, when it comes to, I love that.

That's a great point. If you're going to do something like that, like you do it with everything you got, because everything you got is kind of on the line every time you put that rope around your arm. What do you call that strap that you guys … Pardon me? A bull rope. A bull rope.

A bull rope. Well, what a great spiritual truth to bring to our listeners. Again, when we're engaged in spiritual warfare, and you got to be fully committed, that bull isn't concerned about you. It's going to do what it wants to get rid of you. Satan's trying to get rid of us. We got to be fully alert. Great spiritual truth here is going to be hidden to break, Mr. Robbie.

There you go. You can see Wyatt live coming up to 21st to 22nd at the Nutter Arena. We got one more segment for you to call us, 866-34-TRUTH.

You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live, and here's the question today, and it's a great question. Now, since Wyatt had to go on and ride a bull, we need you to tell us, how do you get ready for a wild ride, or what was the wildest ride? I love when you ride the roller coaster at Disney World. This here is a wildest ride, this side the Mississippi. Anyway, I love the idea of a wild ride.

I ask you the question, hoping you'll call us, 866-348-7884, so you go, Robbie, what about you? Well, I have to admit, the wildest ride I ever took as far as, you know, in 1996, interestingly, I was diagnosed with lymphoma, a pretty serious case, and that started the wild ride. And a lot of people have heard my healing story to that. Not many people have heard that when I had my last chemotherapy treatment, Tammy and I decided to go to the mountains, and we were going to celebrate that I'd finished chemotherapy. And so we went on what was called at the time a Jeep Jamboree. I was the president of Bob Neal, Chrysler, Plymouth, Jeep, Eagle, so Jeep was a big thing to me, and going up on a Jeep Jamboree is pretty exciting stuff. It's a wild ride.

I'm going to tell you, it's a wild ride, and really fun ride. And the last day of the Jeep Jamboree in 1996, after we'd finished the ride, we all go down sort of on the side of this hill, and in those days, the Jeeps had what they called locking hubs, and you had to unlock your hubs when you went to get on pavement, and we were still on the dirt. And so we were going to all unlock our hubs, and we pulled over to do that. And when we did that, I went to get a root beer for my son on the back of the Jeep. Well, unbeknownst to me, the guy uphill from me had failed to put his emergency brake on. And I'm getting this root beer, and I hear the crackling of tires behind me like, what in the world? And all of a sudden, I realize that this Jeep was fixed to hit me.

And I don't know if you're familiar with Jeep bumpers, but the rear of a Wrangler bumper is flat, and the front bumper on this Jeep was tubular. And I got my right leg up on the bumper, but I did not get my left leg there. And that began my wild ride, and not to go into too many gory details, but it was pretty severe. And I remember crying out to Jesus very, very vividly, like, Jesus, help me, because I knew that I was hurt very badly, as you might imagine. And as I crumpled to the ground, realizing I was hurt even worse than I thought, all of a sudden, I felt what I can only describe to you as a Jesus hug, right? And if you've ever had one, you know exactly what I'm talking about, because I've talked to several people over the years that have had them. I've had people call in at 866-34-87884 and tell me they had a Jesus hug.

And when you have one, it's like, in his presence is fullness of joy, it is right-handed pleasures forevermore. There's no, like, this could be the end. No, no, no, I mean, I just felt like I'm good, right? And so I crumpled to the ground, and when I do, it's pretty gory, and people around me are freaking out pretty big, especially the guy that hit me, right? And he's feeling horrible. I mean, as you might imagine, your car just struck this guy, and he's down on the ground, and it doesn't look good.

Believe me, it didn't look good. And he's over at the top of me, right? I'm laying there trying to, you know, enjoy my Jesus hug, however you want. And he's saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And I could see, he's like hyperventilating over the top of me, and all the people around me are in a complete panic.

And Jesus gives me this. I said, I looked up at him, and I said, dude, how's your insurance? True story, Nick. That's what happened. And you know what happened?

It was like immediately the crowd went, well, if he can joke at a time like this, then, you know, he's fine. And I was. And I was. But I wasn't in my own strength whatsoever, I'm telling you, that I had that Jesus hug. And then, you know, they couldn't get a helicopter in there because of the weather. And we were way up in the mountains, and it was going to take like 45 minutes to get. And everybody was freaking out that I was going to go into shock because what had all had happened. And Jesus held me the whole way. And I'll never forget when they finally got there with the ambulance, and they hit me with a morphine. I didn't feel it. Because I was already, my leg was already taking care of you.

Yeah. And so, you know, I say that because a lot of people, and I always worry, you know, what happens when something horrible happens? Well, if you have Jesus, and that's where you go, you will be shocked at what he has for you. I'm still shocked to this day. Like, I remember the whole thing pretty vividly. And it was a wild ride.

But I can assure you, right, that you get a Jesus hug, and you'll be good. How about you? What's the wildest ride you ever had? 866-348-7884.

866-34-TRUTH. Doc, how about you? Well, I've got quite a few that they were those unexpected turns. But I dealt with prostate cancer, and it was all lined up. We're doing the surgery.

We're going to be okay. Six weeks later, you're going to be normal, just moving on with life, basically. And when the surgery was over, and I wake up, and the first thing I get told was they didn't get it all. And then that became the wild ride. I wasn't expecting to have to trust God at the level I had to trust God. I thought this was going to be taken care of, and we're going to be okay. And then I ended up for a year and a half dealing with getting rid of the cancer through other medical ways, and just trusting the Lord. And now I'm cancer-free, but it was a wild ride. There might have been a few prayers in the middle of all that. Yeah, lots of prayers. And you think about biblically, the story that those disciples were told to get in a boat.

Hey, let's go to the other side. Who told them to get in the boat? Jesus did. Who got in the boat with him? Jesus did.

Well, everything's going to be great. There's no problems when you got Jesus in the boat with you. Next thing you know, Jesus is asleep, and there's a storm, and they're screaming, we're going to die! Lord, wake up!

Help us! And in their wild ride, he says, guys, listen. Storm, stop. Waves, calm down. Wind, stop blowing. And all of a sudden, they were astonished at who was with them. And the wild rides give us that opportunity to see God at a level we've never seen him before.

Right. Who's with you? So we got Mike is in Dayton.

It could be he's ready to go to the Pro Bull Riders event. Mike, you're on Truth Talk Live. Hi. Yeah, I had about an eight-second heart attack once. My boss wanted me to buy a van. It was a Ford van, and I just bought the van. And I headed back to work, and I was coming off the freeway and going up on the on-ramp, and the brakes went out. And I'm pumping the brakes, and I'm like, oh, Lord, please help me, Lord. And I'm thinking I'm in trouble. You know, I was going too fast off.

Yeah, I'm in trouble. And God gave me that Jesus hug. Pull on the emergency brake, push on the brake, you know, Mike.

And I did, I pushed on the emergency brake, and I put it in neutral, or put it down in the low. And I got it to stop. I pulled over.

I literally cried. And I thought for sure I was going to pass away, you know. And I, you know, it was at the time where I was kind of not following God. At the time, I was a little bit young.

I was about 26, 27. And that was a wake-up call a little bit for me to say, hey, I'm still with you, Mike. You know, God's still with you. He gave you that insight like, oh yeah, that's why they call it an emergency brake. Yeah, well, I, you know, when you're actually putting your foot to the bottom of the floor, I, at that point in time, you're not sitting there, emergency, oh, this is an emergency. Oh, well, you know. I love it.

I love it. But it's also a good lesson for many people. You may have it a handle in the middle, or you may have a lever you push down with your foot, but that's something you really need to be familiar with. And I actually, with each of my kids, what I did, Mike, was I one time, you know, had them, I said, I want you to stop this time with the emergency brake. I just pretend that it's an emergency. And so how do you stop with emergency brake? Because it's pretty easy to lock up the tires with emergency brake, just saying. And so it's not a real bad practice. Don't, you know, don't do it carefully, but it's not a bad practicing thing for anybody. You know, since you got the Christian car guy on the phone, Mike, you know, I'm going to use this as a teaching moment. I love it.

So it's just true. You know, a lot of people, you shove down on that emergency brake, you lock up the back tires, you could be doing some crazy stuff. And I'm so, you know, it's something you practice with, but I love your story. And so the eight-second heart attack, you had us having a heart attack over your heart attack, was actually just a panic experience. You didn't actually have a heart attack. No, no, I didn't have a heart attack, but I, boy, oh boy, you, you know. Well, in a way, it's a heart attack when you all of a sudden lose faith, right? It's a heart attack, right? You kind of lose faith and you're thinking you're, it's time to go, you know, and then, well, that's what those disciples were saying on the boat. You know, we're, they're having a heart attack.

We're gonna die. That's exactly right. They, they were having a heart attack, Mike.

Right. And I got something, you know, would, would I let somebody else drive that van? Cause some other, you know, my, my boss came over and got the van and he says, oh, there's nothing wrong with your brakes. And I said, no, no, no, don't, don't drive the van.

It's, it's, I'm telling you, the brakes are bad. It's gone, you know? Right.

I hate the show's over, Mike. I know, I know. But that's good. That's good.

That's good. I love it. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Doc. Thank you. And for all the news, you got the message. You got a, if you're in Dayton, guess what? The Nutter Arena, the 21st and the 22nd. You can go see Wyatt. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back tomorrow.