Since the war broke out in Sudan, I've been getting non-stop messages from this woman of God sitting next to me. We're in Dallas, Texas at the Religious Broadcasters Convention in the Truth Booth.
There are people talking from India, Pakistan, all over the world. It's a life-changing event here. I love it. We're in the Truth Booth.
It's a little loud, so folks, that's the background, but you've got to hear from Tatiana because she has been texting and emailing our family. We were in Bible college together. You're good friends with my sister, Christie, too, but just tell everyone, give them some background because this is some evil things are happening there. God is good though, but you have family there. This is where you're from. This is your homeland.
Yes. I am from Ukraine. My name is Tatiana Guminuk. I grew up in a beautiful, loving family during the communistic persecution in Ukraine.
My parents were godly people that taught us to love Jesus and to care for others. I have five brothers, four sisters, and we all love and care for people. We were all together living in one city, but when the war broke, everybody had to leave, and that was a shock that paralyzed us, and now we are all spread in different places of the world, yet my five brothers, three sisters are in Ukraine ministering in the church. So what we're going to try to find out, Russ East is with us.
He's the host of National Show's Passion for Christ, and he's part of our Christian Truth Network, and many of the stations that carry our show carry his show. Russ, what we want to ascertain here is what's really going on in Ukraine. How can we pray for the church in Ukraine and her family in specific, and how can listeners know there's a lot of politics, there's a lot of back and forth. This show is not to get everyone mad on the left or the right, but Russ, how does it hit your heart, and what's your first question for Tatiana? Well, I would just like to know how can we be involved to help financially, really, tell you the truth, because I'm sure there's going to be a need there to move people, and there's a need to supply them with maybe some, you know, counseling and some sort of support, you know, financially and spiritually and prayerfully.
How can we do that? The work is going on in Ukraine, and it's not easy for people to really just live, and the support, like, God has allowed me to have 501c3. I have Light for Living ministry with my ministry, Tatiana Guminuk, and I'm helping the parents, the family, and the people in Ukraine, but also it's important to pray. I am the voice for Ukraine. I am begging you and pleading American believers to pray for peace so God can change the course of the history. And Zelensky, he's the president, and there's obviously been tension on both sides. I mean, there's some dear Christians in Russia, too, Tatiana.
This makes it tough, right? But it's horrible when there's bombs being dropped for no reason. It's just this power-hungry thing, but there's also a lot of politics involved.
Can you talk about that? Like, what's the corruption stuff that we don't see on the media? The corruption is in Ukraine, too, and, like, people who have money, they don't have to go to the army.
They go and sit in bars. There is also corruption in the offices that pull men and drag them to the army, and if you want not to go to the army, you have to pay a bribe of 16,000. And so this is really evil. So Ukrainian people have lost faith into government, have lost faith into politics.
They fight for their families, for their wives, children, and that's why I'm begging people that God would tie the evil in Russia, in Ukraine, in Europe, and in America. And it's remarkable coming from your heart to hear this. I'm Stu Everson.
This is Truth Talk. With me is Russ East, host of Passion for Christ. Tatiana has been a family friend for decades. She loves Jesus. She's from the Ukraine. She has a great testimony.
It's remarkable. There's about 150 people that have come out of one couple, your parents, who followed Jesus and then brought you up in the faith in communist Ukraine. It was liberated.
Now it's been attacked and ransacked again. Talk about your testimony and what God's done to bring you to this day as our listeners are going to know you too. I grew up in a beautiful family, and God allowed me through American visitors and pastors that I have translated in Ukraine to come to Bob Jones University.
So I got my master's and bachelor's at Bob Jones University, and that's where I met Stu's parents, and I lived with Mrs. Edwards, Elizabeth Edwards, who was your dad's speech teacher, and your mom. And Christy, I studied with her, and that's the way how the Lord has opened this up and graduated. And God has brought me to different places, and I came to Washington, D.C., and I kind of got connected with the National Prayer Breakfast, and I'm in a prayer ministry because my mom showed me by her life how she prayed for each child. So for me, I have the best ministry at the prayer breakfast in Washington, D.C., and in Europe, in Brussels, and Vienna to pray. And you're a product of the power of prayer. Your parents praying for you to come to Christ. You came to Christ young, and so many kids.
You're 150 now. You've got brothers who are pastors. They're in the Ukraine. Russ, this is something, you know, you minister in Utah, and you're sharing the gospel there, but you don't have bombs dropping on you, do you?
No, not at all. And so maybe I could ask Tatiana just to share, again, nice and slow, the website where people can go. Is there a website where people can go to make a small donation, big donation?
However the Lord's leading you. Here, may I see what it is, and I'll mention it. The website is going to be give.ministrylink, spelled L-I-N-Q, dot com, okay? And then there's some more beyond that, and it might be hard to get all of that, but. We can publish that later too. Oh, Tatiana's ministry, okay, so we just want to be looking up.
Light full, okay. Talk about how people can get connected with you. Yes, you can go to the website life for living in ministry, and look for Tatiana Guminuk, T-A-T-I-A-N-A, last name G-U-M-E-N-Y-U-K. Life for living ministry, Tatiana Guminuk.
So that's your name, and then give us one final call. You know, we were just in a big room of people talking about the Sudanese crisis, and our friends at the Persecution Project are doing so much. My buddy Marty over here is amazing how he's helping Afghan refugees. I mean, refugees all over the world.
You know, I just talked to a gentleman earlier. There are two million Syrian refugees that have invaded, not in a negative way, Lebanon, and the Christians there are leading them to Christ. It's just, there's a revival happening, so this is a great opportunity. You're in Germany trying to help the people in Ukraine, so tell our listeners, kind of give us the picture of what we can do, where it is right now, and what do we, how do we act moving forward?
Yes, the trials bring people closer to the Lord. Right now, there is a big revival in Ukraine. In my church, we have 300 refugees coming every Sunday since the beginning of the war. My sister is minister to women who lost everything. One lady, Raya, she comes from Kupensk. She had three-year-old brand-new house that is right now a hole in the ground, and she comes to my town. For a year and a half, she is in depression. Then she comes to my church. My sister reaches out to her, and she comes, and she says, for the first time, I felt the love of Jesus, and the sense of life, and the joy of life.
And she said, yes, I lost everything, but I gained Jesus. That is why if you can pray that people really come to true knowledge of the Lord and that God would help the churches to do better work in Ukraine and help them, that would be amazing. Yeah, even after this war settles down, Russ, and even after hopefully peace is going to be restored, people still need Jesus. People still need Jesus in America. In Utah, there aren't bombs dropping there, but there's a spiritual war. In fact, that this time of placid passivity, maybe lulling people into this kind of a, well, everything's fine with my life. I'm going to live the American dream, and I'm a good conservative, and I'm going to end up, I did more good than I did bad when I died, but we need Jesus, right, Russ, at the end of the day.
Absolutely. And I was just thinking too about coming over here to the NRB. Our Uber driver was from Ukraine, and then talked to him a little bit, and they had some serious trauma happen in their family. So I just encourage all of our listeners to, if you're driving an Uber with an Uber driver, just ask them where they're from, and if they're from the Ukraine or wherever they're from, try to reach out to them. And I think if you find out more about Tatiana's ministry, you'll have more insight, you'll have the ability to have more sympathy, and the ability to pray, and to maybe even give to help. We've thrown out a lot of names, a lot of links, but she's got one on this brochure, I think it's pretty simple. Give us to this Tatiana as we get out of here. Lifeforliving.org.
Okay, awesome. Lifeforliving.org. Get involved, friends. You can do something. Have her come speak at your church. She's passionate about this, and anybody that gets up and shares and starts crying has that passion. We need to be passionate about that.
It says in Luke, Jesus looked over the multitudes and he wept. They're like sheep having no shepherd. So the reason that anything happens in junior life, good, bad, incidental. You're waiting an extra 30 minutes for the dentist. You're in that waiting room. You're the only gospel witness in that waiting room that those people that walk in that room may ever hear. Seize the moment, seize the day. Ukraine, Afghanistan, the Nuba Mountains of Sudan, Utah, wherever you go, God has pursued you so you can pursue others and bring them in the glorious knowledge of Christ. Thank you, Tatiana, for being on with us. Thank you so much. And I'm again the voice for Ukraine.
Please let's pray together that God would change the course of the history and bring true peace to Ukraine and to many hearts all over the world. Amen. And Russ, thanks for helping us with this interview. Tell us the website for Passion for Christ. Folks want to learn more. Maybe you can have her on your podcast, too. Absolutely. Sure. It's the Utah Partnerships for Christ at UPFC.org.
