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I've got my pile of papers here. 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884 on tap today. I want to tell you about a tale of three young men. Normally this time of year we hear about the three wise men, but I'm going to tell you about three young men.
Daniel Penny, Jordan Neely, and Luigi Mancione. I want to tell you guys about what's going on in our culture right now and if you want to weigh in on that you can. There's a lot to unpack of what's going on. We've got Pardon is in the Air. We hear a lot about this with Biden's pardon of his son. And I would like to think that we as believers can take that narrative and talk about the unbelievable pardon that we've got from God. The incredible pardon we've got from God.
So we're going to talk about that some more. Plus it's Christmas time and I love Christmas music. If you've got a Christmas song that you like, I'll do my best.
I've got the caregiver keyboard fired up over here. Do you know this one? A lot of people don't know that one. That's a great hymn. I love that hymn. If you know it, feel free to call in and talk about it.
If you've got something else you want to hear, Nick was talking about Mary Did You Know right before we came on the program. I love Christmas music. I love playing it. I love singing it. I love hearing it.
And if that's something you want me to play for you, a song, a Christmas song that you like, I'll do the best I can. 86634 truth, 866348, 7884. I want to go back to this thing and put it to rest. Unless you want to bring it up. This thing with Hunter Biden being pardoned... And I think it's important for us to remember that being pardoned by the president means just that. You're just pardoned. It doesn't mean that you're innocent. It doesn't mean that you didn't do it. It just means that the president has stepped in with the full weight of the presidential office and said, we're not going to impose a penalty on you for this.
The reality of it is, is it doesn't work that way. And I don't think we've somehow wrapped our mind around this in our Christian culture, in that God did not simply pardon us. Pardon is saying, yeah, you're guilty. Is that it? We're done. Okay, you don't have to go to jail.
You don't have to go to hell. Is that it? Is that all he's done? And that's not quite right. And I would like to see us as believers flip that narrative a little bit and talk about the reality of what God's pardon looks like. Hunter Biden was pardoned by his sister, but our Savior's father pardoned us because of his sacrifice. But it's more than that.
See, there are three imputations. When Adam sinned, his sin was imputed to all mankind. Jesus came on the scene and our sin was imputed to him. He took on our sin. He who knew no sin became sin, went to the cross and did that. But then there's something else that happened. His righteousness was imputed to us.
There's a great old hymn, Jesus, thy blood and righteousness. That's the whole point. We didn't just get out of jail free card. That's what Hunter got.
Hunter got a get out of jail free card because his dad was the president. Whatever you think about it, that's what happened. That's what happens on a mankind pardon type of thing. We didn't just get that. We received Christ's righteousness. That's a staggering thought if you think about that. As if we never sinned.
I mean, wrap your mind around that. That's what it means to be redeemed by our great God. He took our sin, put it on Christ, took Christ's righteousness and was imputed to us. As if we'd never sinned.
We did not get a get out of jail free card. And we then become Christ. We belong to him because of that. So when we stand before God, we just plead Christ.
That's it. There's no other plea. I need no argument. I need no other plea. It is enough that Jesus died and that he died for me. And he lived for my righteousness that I have now because of him. It's all him.
It's always him. And I would like to think that maybe, just maybe in our culture, we could have that conversation more with people when the conversation topic comes up about a presidential pardon. Because a presidential pardon is just that. It just means you're being relieved of the consequences of this. But it doesn't mean you're innocent. It doesn't mean that you're not guilty. And that is the amazing truth of the Gospel is that when God pardoned us, he also gave us the righteousness. See, the Senate had a penalty for it. There is a penalty that is due.
Somebody has to pay the penalty. But we cannot fellowship with God unless we're a holy, righteous people. And we can't do this on our own. And so that's why we have his righteousness to cling to because there is no other place to go. Paul got this way. I noticed when Paul started off his ministry, if you notice, he was reading his resume a lot.
You know, I did this, I did this, I studied under this guy. And by the time he gets to the end of his life, and the end of his ministry here on this earth, he's saying, I'm the chief of sinners. And I got nothing.
Everything that I could bring to the occasion here is just filthy rags. And that is an extraordinary place to get to. And as John the Baptist said, he must increase, we must decrease. But that's the take. I would personally like to see more and more Christians, every time the topic comes up of presidential pardon, say, let me tell you about a greater pardon. Let me tell you about a greater righteousness that was infused to us by the one who knew no sin but became sin. That's truth talk life. This is Peter Rosenberger.
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This is Peter Rosenberger. Glad that you are with us, 866-348-7884, 866-34-TRUTH. I'm looking forward to Christmas this year. It will be a little different than last year. Last year we spent it in the hospital. We were there for two months following my wife's 86th surgery. Now she's got two more coming up the first of the year, but we won't have to be in patient for Christmas. But we went in right after Thanksgiving and stayed until February.
It was a good stretch. And it was different having Christmas in the hospital. And I've got to tell you, it was as challenging as it was, it was still a memorable time. And I wrote about this in an article in Mature Living magazine that put out my life way. And I'm a featured writer every month in their magazine. And I talk about this experience that I had. This time last year, I was just thinking, there was a hotel right across the street from the hospital where she had the surgery in Denver.
She was in the neuro ICU for some time and then went to the neuro floor. And then at night I would just go across the street and stay at the hotel. But there was a grand piano there in the lobby. And I would play it periodically as I left at night just to kind of play Christmas music like I love to do.
And I thought I was just playing for the security guards. But I saw the balcony on the second floor above where patients could come. And they all would come out with wheelchairs and hanging IV bags and so forth. And sometimes we'd sing along and there was a few tears and because nobody, who wants to be in the hospital on Christmas?
And Gracie certainly didn't want to be. And I decorated her room when she came out of the ICU, I decorated her room and I had a little tree from Walgreens that I got. It was a little tiny tree and lights around and a little cinnamon smelling broom, kind of like a little whisk broom, but a little tiny one that I hung up on there and I had stockings hung up.
And then I got a buddy of mine to let me borrow his keyboard. So I had a keyboard in there and I played Christmas music for her in there. And we had the best decorated room on the hospital floor, I promise you that.
There was no official prize, but we did have a great room there. And I wanted to make it as special for her as I could. And our son came out and joined us for Christmas Eve and a couple days after that. And that was real special to have him there, but it was just different to have it in the hospital.
How do you have tidings of comfort and joy when you're in the hospital and when you're dealing with the kind of seriousness that we deal with? And yet a lot of people deal with that every holiday. Some people are going to be having a death in the family right at Christmas. And there's all kinds of things that go on. And Christmas is what you make of it.
Because the important thing is, do you remember what it's about? Why do we have this holiday? It's not just a winter holiday that we co-opted in our Christian faith.
There's an important moment to this of understanding the incarnation and what this means. And I learned in a hospital room with my wife playing Christmas carols that you could have a special Christmas. And this year we're back home in Montana. And I went and got our tree the other day, and I found a beautiful tree. I mean, it's a big tree. And I cut it down myself and brought it back to the house on the side-by-side. And it was – because we backed up to the forest and we cut our own tree down out here. And people were – I took a picture of it before I cut it down, and people were like, no, leave it up. And I'm like, well, first off, this wasn't in the forest. This was actually on our property, way on the other side there. And so nobody was going to miss it.
And I found it, and I liked it. And I was like, no, I'm taking this one. Because last year I had that little Walgreens tree. I mean, the thing was like 18 inches.
That's all I could do in the hospital. I mean, it's not like you bring a big tree in there. But so I wanted a big tree for this year, so we got one.
And you know, but I learned last year to be grateful for the little things. And we had presents and all that kind of stuff we brought in, and we're dealing with nurses coming in and out, and it is what it is. But throughout all of that, I thought, you know, we are in a terrible state.
We don't realize how big a problem sin is, and it's far worse than being in a hospital. And God took on flesh, and when Christ became incarnate, the second member of the Trinity became incarnate, that's, you know, if you'll notice, the angels only came out in mass at the birth of Christ. Isn't that extraordinary? That's the only time they came out like they did, and the host of heaven burst forth. And Handel really captured that well in the Messiah, and the glory, you know, it was such an amazing moment, because God did what He said He was going to do way back in Genesis 3. And by faith, all these heroes of our faith believed towards that moment. And Jesus said, you know, Abraham, they looked forward to this date, and, you know, by faith with that. And it was just an extraordinary moment when they came out, not at the resurrection, they came out at the birth, because God did what He said He was going to do. And against all odds that we had this amazing event of Christ with us, Immanuel, He took on flesh, He became us.
As a wonderful writer, if you ever get a chance to read her stuff, it's Diane Langberg, and she's a psychologist who deals with trauma, and been doing it for 50-something years, just a brilliant lady. And she talks about a terrible word in the English language, which is called they, they. We use it almost punitively in our language, because if they wouldn't do such and such, but if they didn't do this, like somehow our choices are morally superior, that we're somehow better than somebody who's doing something that gets them into a dire circumstance or whatever. And she said, the only one who could say they is Him, because He is other. We're all they. And He became like us so that we could be with Him. The only one who could say they is Him, and He became like us so we could be with Him. What an extraordinary, what an extraordinary picture of what the incarnation means.
There was a great thing I saw the other day, Sinclair Ferguson was talking about the wonder of the incarnation. So if you're going into Christmas right now, and it's less than ideal, maybe you got an empty chair this year. Maybe you got a loved one who is really, really, really sick. I get that. Maybe you got all kinds of things going on. Maybe you got one who is in jail.
Who knows? There's so many different circumstances. I would point your eyes to Christ to recognize that He who began a good work in you is faithful to complete it. And we understand that what He did at the incarnation was so amazing. He came to us because we could not go to Him. And I hang on to that in those moments of distress. There's a great hymn, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Let Nothing You Dismay. That's why we sing that phrase, let nothing you dismay.
Because lift up our heads and see the risen Christ who loves you. This is Peter Roseburger. This is Truth Talk Live, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884.
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I did play a hymn, a Christmas hymn. I don't know if you know this one or not. You know it? Call in.
You're welcome to. I will give you a hint of who wrote the text for that. Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. If you get special bonus points if you know who wrote the music for it. But I love that hymn.
I love that arrangement with those chords in it. It's a great hymn. If you know that, you're welcome to call in. If you've got something else you want to hear, I'll be glad to play it as best as I can.
866-348-7884, 866-34-TRUTH. I want to tell you a tale of three young men. It's been in the news all the last couple, week or so. And it's tragic.
It's sad on so many levels here. You've got Daniel Penny, Jordan Neely, and Luigi Mangione. These are all young men about the same age.
I think Jordan was 30, Daniel Penny's like 25, 26, and Luigi's like 25, 26. Luigi's the man that killed this United Healthcare CEO and seemed to be pretty jubilant about it and feels a certain amount of justification. I don't think he's denying doing it. And then you've got Daniel Penny who was just acquitted from murdering.
They try to go on manslaughter and then they try to go on negligence or something, I don't know. Alvin Slaughter, Alvin Bragg, Alvin Bragg's a great gospel singer, Alvin Bragg was trying to cobble something together here and sent the jury back, and I like how the judge sent them back to find the right verdict kind of thing. What are your thoughts on this? I'm going to share some observations I've made, but what are your thoughts?
866-348-7884, if you want to weigh in on that, 866-34-TRUTH. Daniel Penny did an interview yesterday, I think, with Judge Jeanine Pirro of Fox News, and he said something that was rather extraordinary. He said, I couldn't live with myself if I didn't do something. This man said he was going to kill somebody and he was going to go to jail and didn't care. I took him at his word, basically. And he said if he had hurt somebody, I would have had to live with that. And I didn't want to get involved.
I didn't want to do anything, but there were people there that were very afraid, and he stepped up and did it. And I think Jordan Neely's father now is going to try to do a civil lawsuit against Daniel Penny. I'm not sure how that's all going to play out.
But the tragedy of Jordan Neely, the young man who was killed, he's 30 years old, is that he had a long history of encounters with law enforcement and, evidently, some significant problems. There's no rejoicing here. And it's such a stark contrast, because there are people actually rejoicing over this CEO at United Health that Luigi Manchione killed.
And people rejoice. I think his name is Brian. Forgive me on that, Nick, if you got it, and I apologize that I don't have it right here in front of me. But this man, father of two, I think he was just getting a cup of coffee, and this kid comes up, and the young man shoots him and kills him, and evidently planned to do it. I don't know.
I mean, he had what they call a ghost gun that was 3D printed. There's a lot of factors still going to come out, so don't hold me to task on any of the details on it. But the whole thing is just tragic, because there are people that are in social media and even in the news who are expressing a certain amount of satisfaction over killing this man.
You got Taylor Lorenz. I don't know if you know who she is. She used to be with the Washington Post, and she's been separating out from Vox Media because of these comments, she got into this thing with Piers Morgan, and they were talking about how she was feeling a measure of joy over this thing, and it's just tragic, and Piers was looking at her with just incredulity, and she's thinking that as a CEO, he's killed all these people because he's the CEO of a healthcare company, and these are evil people, and they need to be shot down in the street, evidently is what she's intimating, and she tried to walk that back, but it's a little late to walk something like that back. And Brian Thompson, that's the CEO, I apologize for that, and here's a man whose life is gone. His kids at Christmas time won't have a father, and here are people that are celebrating the killer of that guy, and it's just, have we come to this as a society? And then Jordan Neely, they're saying that the system failed, no, no, no, the system failed long before Daniel Penny showed up. Jordan Neely should have been getting the help that he needed, and his father's gonna sue Daniel Penny, but I'm not so sure why his father has not been more involved in suing others for not getting this young man the help he needed, that he kept getting released or access to whatever. Who knows?
I don't know. But Daniel Penny, it was inevitable. When you have somebody who has that many arrests, a platform like a subway car, and says I'm going to kill someone, and I'm gonna go to jail, when you've got somebody who's willing to do that, the system, if somebody like Daniel Penny doesn't step up, then it's just going to go into tragedy, and then it's going to end, it can't help but end in tragedy.
But you didn't get here overnight. And that's such a tragic thing all the way around, and there's nobody that's spiking the football and saying yay, and saying this, none of this is good. For Daniel Penny, this is forever, had his life been altered forever now. And he's got to deal with the fallout of this, he's got people now that are reviling him and still wanting to sue him and all this kind of stuff, and he just saw people that were being threatened. I have a wife that has severe disabilities, two prosthetic legs, and when I'm out in public with her, usually she's in a wheelchair. You can't run from a conflict and from a mob while pushing a wheelchair very easily. If I see somebody like that coming on to, in her circle, in her space, or a mob trying to block our car, what do you think? What's the course of action?
What do you do? First off, I don't go to public places like that with her, unless I can absolutely help it, I'm extremely careful on that. But I have to be cognizant, because I can't, you can't flee from that, you can't get away.
You're on a subway car with this guy who is saying, I'm going to kill somebody, you can't get away from it on a subway car, you can't just jump out of a subway car, what do you do? And we're going to see more and more of these kinds of things in our society, because we've allowed this lawlessness to come into play. We've allowed things that are unsettling to come into play. What can we do about this as believers? What's our responsibility here? Do we have a responsibility? We can't fix these things, but do we have a responsibility?
Do we have a stewardship opportunity? Do we have a mandate from our Savior to speak into this? And I think Scripture, I think we can all see places in Scripture where it says, yeah, what we do, to stand up and give an account to the truth and point people to Christ, whether they accept Him or not, whether they choose to embrace what we're talking about or not. That's not on us, but we are not absolved from speaking the truth.
That's why I love this network, by the way, the truth network. We're not absolved from this. But we have to speak into it, and my prayer is that we can speak into it with clarity and with ministry and with compassion, and I think that we can make a case that even as we grow more in our walk with Christ, we'll groan over this, because the Holy Spirit groans on our behalf.
Are we not groaning as well as we walk deeper with Christ to see these things? What would you say to Daniel Penney? I understand a lot of people, you know, you did the right thing, thank you, I mean, you're amazing, I'm glad, you know, all that kind of stuff, but what are you going to say to him in five years, in 10 years, in 15 years? What would you say to Jordan Neely's father? What would you say to the family members of Luigi Mangione, who are now in shock that their son has gone out and done such a thing?
What would you say to the family of Brian Thompson, whose kids on Christmas morning are going to deal with this reality? Are we prepared to minister to this level of brokenness and suffering and sin that is permeating our world? Are we prepared for this?
I think that's our challenge, that we are the salt and the light. Are we doing it? And that's what we're going to continue to talk about here on this program and on this network. This is Truth Talk Live.
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This is Peter Rosenberg. We're glad that you are with us, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. I will tell you, nobody's getting that song right, I will tell you the song, I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day, that I've been playing throughout the show. I Heard the Bells. Their old familiar carols play, and wild and sweet the words repeat of peace on earth, good will to men. Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote this, I thought how as the day had come, the belfries of all Christendom had rolled along the unbroken song of peace on earth, good will to men.
And then listen to this third verse, and in despair I bowed my head. There's no peace on earth, I said, for hate is strong and mocks the song of peace on earth, good will towards men. I mean, do you feel that way sometimes when you look out at the world? You look at things that are going on right now, you see what's going on in Syria, what's in Ukraine and Russia, and South Korea right now is a mess. You've got the Middle East, and then you see here in our own country in our city streets, and then we've got young men that are going out and murdering people.
We've got people in the media that are standing on the sidelines and nodding with approval over such a thing. And it sounds like what this lyric says, there is no peace on earth, I said, for hate is strong and mocks the song of peace on earth, good will towards men. And then the writer goes on to say, then peel the bells more loud and deep.
God is not dead, nor doth he sleep. The wrong shall fail, the right prevail with peace on earth, good will towards men. And I love what Longfellow did there, is that he said, you know, I was despairing, but then the bells ring louder. The bells are this, that's the announcement of something, the heralding of something, of a greater call, a greater witness. Are we peeling bells to the power of the gospel? Are we doing that? Are we that, is that our life? Are we willing to, when things look so bleak and so harsh, are we willing to peel out the call to look higher, lift up your heads?
Are we willing to do that? That is the invitation we have by scripture to give testament to what God has done. That is the gospel. The bad news is, yes, sin is a bigger problem than we could ever imagine. The good news is the cross is a bigger deal than we could ever imagine, we could ever hope for.
It is such an amazing moment and we celebrate the incarnation of God through Christ here at Christmas time and let it be throughout the entire year for us. Now, just as a side note, do you know when Longfellow wrote that hymn? He wrote that, he was an American poet, and he wrote that in 1864. What was going on in 1864? America was at war with itself.
The numbers are staggering of American lives that were lost in the Civil War, bloodshed, the stench of war, the families that were ruined, the wounded war. That's when my wife is a double amputee and we have a prosthetic limb ministry over in West Africa. She gets her legs worked on and has for many years. We have a lot of prosthetists that come to us from hanger prosthetics and orthotics. There was a guy named Robert Hanger, he was a Civil War veteran who lost his leg and he started inventing high quality prosthetists.
Now prosthetists go way back, you can go back in ancient times in Egypt, but he was the one that really took this to new levels and started developing prosthetic legs out of the Civil War. So you've got all these maimed men and women and homes that are burned and killed and people killed and lives ruined and Longfellow is writing this, and in despair I bowed my head, there is no peace on earth, I said. He understood what he was talking about. He saw it firsthand in our country. For hate is strong and mocks the song of peace on earth, but then the bells peeled louder. Are we bells that are peeling louder amidst all the hate? You've got people that are celebrating a murder, you've got a young man who's had his life flipped upside down because he stepped in so people wouldn't get hurt.
And now people are making this a race thing and it's getting uglier by the day. Are we bells that are peeling out that God is not dead, nor doth he sleep? The wrong shall fail, the right prevail with peace on earth, good will to men. Are we that individual? I would ask, Lord, here I am, send me. And that's what I want to do with every song I play, with every time I'm on the air, with every book I write, with everything I do. We put legs on folks. We do this through my wife, when she gives up her legs she envisioned being able to put legs on people.
And that's exactly what we do. And if you want to find out more about that, go to standingwithhope.com and just see. Because she wanted to be a bell that peeled out to say, you know what, I'm standing on two prosthetic legs and I'm going to give testament to what God has done in my life. And that's why she wanted to name the ministry Standing with Hope.
That's exactly what she does every single day. And if you want to see more about that, I would encourage you to go out there. You can give the gift that keeps on walking. If you need a stocking stuffer, I'd love for you to put a leg in somebody's stocking. You could sponsor a leg. But we teach them how to build prosthetic limbs over there and equip them with all types of supplies to be able to do it. And we recycle prosthetic legs.
We do this. Did you know that you can recycle a prosthetic leg? Not the whole socket, that's where the limb fits into. But you can recycle the components of it, the foot, the knees, the pylons, the screws, the adapters, the liners, the sleeves, the prosthetic socks, the belt systems, all those things and they go to a prison in Arizona run by a wonderful company called CoreCivic out of Nashville. They manage prisons around the country. And inmates help us disassemble these things so that we can take those parts.
We send them over to West Africa where we partner with the National Prosthetic and Orthotic Center there in Ghana. We've been doing it now for almost 20 years. And we've put so many legs, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of legs on people. And we say to them very simply, silver and gold, have I none, such as I have, I give in the name of Jesus, stand up and walk. And they do.
And they go walking and leaping and praising God. It's an extraordinary thing. You can go see their faces. You can see everything about it. And if you want to be a part of this monthly with us, I put together a caregiver calendar that we offer and it's a great gift.
We'll just give it to you. It's pictures that we've taken from right here in Montana and quotes that are coming up from my new book that will be out next year called The Caregiver Companion. We're going to re-release a minute for caregivers when every day feels like Monday as part of that.
And you can see all of that out at the site. That makes a great stocking stuffer as well. The holidays are a difficult time for a lot of people. Like I said earlier in this program, I was in the hospital with Gracie last year.
That's not an ideal situation. But Christmas is what you make of it. And are we willing to trust that God, you know, the whole point is that God came to be with us wherever we are, whether we're in a hospital or not. And I promise you our Christmas Eve time with Gracie last year with my son and I, we gathered around the keyboard that I had there in the room and we sang Christmas carols. And we had a nice meal together and nurses came in and we sang and we prayed and we did all those things while in the hospital.
We want to be bells that peel out when everything looks so bleak. And Gracie, you know, she had the vision of putting legs on her fellow amputees while she was still in the hospital after losing her legs. I mean, she was a double amputee laying there. She lost one in 91, the other in 95, and in 95 I came into the room and she's laying there in bed.
One of them is, of course, healed up. She had been wearing a prosthesis for four years, but this next one's still got dressing on it and tubes and drainage tubes and everything else. And she was watching a documentary about Princess Diana helping landmine victims in Southeast Asia and she saw all these people that Princess Diana was helping and these people all looked like Gracie.
She looked like them now. And I walked in the room and she had her hands lifted up to heaven. She's laying there in a hospital bed and she blurted out to me, she said, I know what I'm going to do. And I said, well, what are you going to do, baby? I was a little bit startled. She said, I'm going to go put legs on people and tell them about Jesus. I said, do you think we could get out of the hospital first?
And she just kind of looked at me and rolled her eyes. She will not be thwarted and she hasn't been. And that's what we've been doing because what a tremendous gift to be able to boast all the more gladly in our weakness so that Christ's power may rest upon us. And I admire her for being that bell that peels out that said, God is not dead, nor doth he sleep. The wrong shall fail, the right prevail with peace on earth, goodwill to men. And it's an amazing hymn that Longfellow wrote in the midst of a brutal time in our country.
And we are unsettled now as a country. And the call goes out. Will we stand up and ring out that, you know, I heard the bells on Christmas day.
I hear them every day. I was listening to Stu Epperson's thing about Thanksgiving. May we say Happy Thanksgiving year round.
Did you hear his commercial on that with his book? May we say Happy Thanksgiving year round. We of all people should be thankful. And it doesn't mean that we're not going to have painful things. My wife does these things, standing on two prosthetic legs and a body that is scarred and broken. And she's in pain all the time. She's got a blog post out there. She's writing now on dealing with chronic pain she's been dealing with for 41 years.
And she's had all these surgeries. So we certainly understand difficult times. But we have an amazing Savior. What a great Savior. It's not how difficult the tale or lured the tale.
Some of you may have a lurid tale of things in your life that are not very pleasant to think about. But it's how great the Savior. Let's ring out those bells at Christmas time and all year round. That's a good word from Stu when he said that, you know, let's say Happy Thanksgiving year round.
Standingwithhope.com standingwithhope.com if you want to see more and be a part of what we're doing. This is Peter Rosenberger. This is Truth Talk. And I am so glad to have this time with you. We'll see you next time. Bye bye.
