...and move on... What's on your Christmas list? We would love to hear your thoughts on the subjects of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, and to call in with how you think that might relate to what you might give Jesus this year. I would love, we would love to hear it.
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866-348-7884. Yes, the wisest Christmas shoppers, right, ever. We three kings of Orion are bearing gifts.
We traveled so far. If you went Christmas shopping for Jesus, this is actually written by Stu, and so, you know, this is really a cool idea. If you went shopping, Christmas shopping for Jesus, what would you get him? How could any earthly gift ever be fit for heaven's child?
We all use the worn-out cliché, what do you get someone who has everything? Well, only in the case of Christ, child, is that absolutely true, because he is the gift of God, John 3 16, and the giver of life, John 1 4. In him are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, Colossians 2 3. And whatever could a wise man from afar give to the wisdom of the ages? So the star brought them to the one who not only has everything, but spoke everything into existence, right?
Colossians 1 16. So they were starstruck, which would be an understatement. So the Magi had a tall task, right?
We all do in our own way, right? Every single year this time, it's a tall task, like, we've got this for this, and we've got this for that, but how do we get this narrowed down? And so the question that we can't help but ask—and I would love your thoughts on any of this.
I would love, love, love to hear them. 866-348-7884. Who were these men? Were they kings? Were they wise men? What, exactly, who were these guys that we're describing again in Matthew that we normally sing about, we three kings, but described in Matthew as Magi? Well, we don't know how many there were, though many claim there were three of them.
Of course, that was the number of the gifts, and we don't know exactly where they came from, though many claim the east is referring to Persia. It is also believed they were influenced by the prophet Daniel and by the Hebrew scriptures, and the word Magi would even maybe indicate Babylonia, so how about that? And we don't know if they were in fact kings. We do know they were wise men, also known as Magi. Very likely they were wealthy, knowledgeable, and powerful, influential to get an audience with King Herod.
They certainly had to be people of substance. So as you think about this story, right, and it's been a fascination, obviously, since they wrote the hymn, We Three Kings, which by the way, though that may be questionable about the title of the hymn, there's no doubt that the lyrics are beyond awesome when you think about it. They're so right, because when it says, you know, if you go through the refrain—I mean, not the refrain, but the actual verses, it says, Born a king on Bethlehem's plain. And again, when it comes to that idea of gold, right? And so when he says, Born a king on Bethlehem's plain, Gold I bring to crown him again. So, King forever ceasing never over us all to reign.
And so there's that idea of kingship. So how, this Christmas, right, is I just love the idea that as we wrap that present for that special someone, maybe you already found it. Maybe it's a beautiful gold ring that you want to crown your sweetheart with. Or maybe it's a book that—maybe it's a Bible, like I was able to give somebody very near and dear to me, my son Leslie today. I gave him a book and a Bible, and that's pretty cool, and I'm excited about that. But how is it that you take and use this gold, frankincense, and myrrh for Jesus?
866-348-7884. And so as you're wrapping that special gift, I certainly thought about the excitement that Leslie would receive in studying this new Bible that I sent him. And, you know, maybe you remember the first time you were awakened to something special in the Scriptures, that something came alive and spoke to you. Because, again, when you give God's Word, it's certainly alive, and it certainly is of all the above, gold, frankincense, and myrrh, in so many different ways.
But how about you? What do you think about those gifts? I would love, love, love—believe me—to hear what your thoughts are. So you got the gold, which, you know, that one is pretty clearly has to do with the king, but it's really cool when you look at the word deeply in the Hebrew language. You can see that it has to do with a reflection, and a reflection that you've heard it said about, you know, that you can see the maker in the reflection of silver, but it's even more so in gold. And, you know, it's kind of cool to think that when we're walking the streets of gold that they will certainly reflect Jesus no matter where we go, right? It's a beautiful idea. But how do you give that back to Jesus?
What does that look like? Or frankincense, right? And when you look at that verse in the hymn, or the, you know, the carol, We Three Kings, it says, Frankincense to offer have I. Incense owns a deity nigh.
Prayer and praising, voices raising, worshiping God on high. So that frankincense, what do you think about that? Or what do you think about the whole, you know, the idea of three gifts?
Very interesting, right? I know a lot of families, they practice that with their children rather than, you know, having just a smorgasbord of gifts. They all give three gifts. You know, what do you have traditions along that when it comes to the magi? Or something that makes you feel like Christmas? You know, this is a live show, and so we need your calls in order to bring that whole feel about it. Or maybe there's some scripture that you think about when it comes to this whole idea of the three kings, and how is that connected to Christmas, really? You know, from a timing standpoint, you may know that that's a bit of a challenge. So what are your thoughts?
866-348-7884. And then there's that idea of myrrh. And, you know, it's kind of a cool thing that myrrh is a, you know, burial, obviously, perfume that they use to wrap Jesus's body there at the end. And how might he need those gifts? And how might he need those gifts today from you?
Those are all questions you can ponder as we go to this break. We definitely need your calls. We would love to talk to you. Whatever you say on your mind for Christmas. 866-348-7884.
866-344-TRUTH. We'll be right back with a whole lot more We Three Kings. We Three Kings, today on Truth Talk Live, what might that have to do with your Christmas list? And what do these three wise men know that perhaps we should look into when we're figuring our Christmas list out this year? Or what does this bring up in your mind?
What did you glean from those verses before or from that song? I'd love to know. We got Jordine is in Virginia. Jordine, you're on Truth Talk Live.
Thanks for calling. Jordine, can you hear me? Hello, Jordine. Well, apparently, there's a moment of grace and ran out, but nonetheless, I guess, Jordine, you can't hear me.
Or maybe you can. Are you there now? Hello, Jordine? Okay. Well, you can call back, or we hope you will, at 866-348-7884.
866-344-TRUTH. We would love your thoughts on the whole subject of We Three Kings of Orient R. And it's interesting, again, where exactly might they be from? Who exactly were they? And why do you think those three gifts, and why might that be something that we could think about on our own Christmas list for Jesus? Because clearly, he is the man who has everything.
Like, what do you get him exactly? And what can we glean from gold, frankincense, and myrrh? And kind of what do those three things represent? As the song clearly would indicate that gold has to do with being a king, and the frankincense. Of course, the gold, you know, not just a king, but a reflection of the person that spoke everything into existence, and the person that truly is in charge. You know, that it's kind of a neat thing that, you know, of course, hopefully, as we grow more and more like enclosures, grow more and more like—and closer and closer to Jesus, that we begin to look more and more like him.
So it's kind of a neat thing that you kind of become golden in your own way as you begin to get that glory on. I think it's an amazing opportunity, but to be done through a whole lot of Bible study. You know, again, the idea is the more we study, the more we pray, the more we hang around Christians, make a lot out of Jesus, the more we get an opportunity to shine like that. But I would love, believe me, to have a discussion with you, especially Jordine, since she tried, 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884.
Grayson, you might check the phone system, see if it's working, because we clearly would be able to have those. So, frankincense, you know, as the song would indicate, is this idea of worship, right? As they would use those in worship, that the priest would do that, and it's kind of cool to think that obviously Jesus is to be worship, but also, since he is, you know, praying, kind of never ceasing there at the right hand of the Father, it's pretty cool to think that that's him as well.
And, you know, that whole idea of frankincense and I hope, like me, you get a chance to, you know, pray a lot and spend some real serious time in prayer with your own particular frankincense, as that may be. It looks like we got Kenny, is in Virginia. Kenny, you're on Truth Talk Live.
Good afternoon. Yes sir, yes sir. I was just listening to all the questions you were asking about the three kings.
Good, good, good. And I'm not the most intellectual person, but I love studying, but when we were studying it, it seems like there is more than three kings, more than likely, but they were from the Babylonian area, and they arrived several months after Jesus was born. Yeah, it's kind of a neat thing to think that the star of Bethlehem, and since they were following it, apparently, based on what you described, and I agree with you, that this star arrived a time after that the shepherds, you know, saw the angels and all that was a little bit different time frame, right? Yes sir, because they were in a house or residence when they arrived, and not in a manger.
Right. And I believe they were, they had learned from what Daniel had taught in Babylon, so they knew what they were looking for, at least somewhat, that's why they made it as far as Jerusalem to ask questions. Yeah, they knew they were looking for a king, that's interesting, isn't it? Yes sir, yes sir. And that put a shocker on old Herod.
Like, what you talking about Willis, a king? You know, so certainly that led to a lot of different historical events, like the slaughter of the babies in Bethlehem. Yes sir. As a result of that, and you're right, that it's a neat thing to study, what about, and I think that a lot of people believe, and I certainly do, that probably the reason why the song was written for the three kings is because of the three gifts, and even the song, when you think about it, he doesn't say there were only three kings, he just, he's using the three kings to illustrate what they're saying when they bring the gifts, I think, don't you think? Yes sir, and that's, I've talked to my wife about it, it's like, I don't think they should be included in the manger scene, but they always are. Yeah, and most Christmas plays too, in fact, we got one coming up our church this Sunday, and I actually wrote the play, and I knew what you're talking about, but I was like, well, you know, for whatever reason, that's always part of it because of the gifts, right?
Correct, correct. And the idea that we're given the opportunity to give back from the greatest gift that we've ever given, how about those three kings? I mean, what do you, since you've studied this, what do you think the myrrh is about?
About his death. Right, and obviously they wrapped him, which I've talked about this week, it's just fascinating to me, somebody sent me this whole idea of Jesus being wrapped at his birth and being wrapped at his death, and that in both cases, Joseph was involved. Yes. And you could make a case for, in both cases, Mary was involved.
Yes. And I think that's amazing, don't you? Yes sir, I think that there's no coincidences in the Bible. God doesn't do coincidences, he lays it out, we just have to read it and study it. So, since myrrh has to do with actually, interestingly, it's almost like the word Mary is very much connected, or Miriam as it were, you know, probably when they were, you know, back in Jesus's day, very connected to that idea of bitterness. And, you know, she, you know, realized that it was going to be bitter, but very sweet in its own way. I've been thinking about that ever since Stu gave me this idea for the show today, is how do we use that particular gift? So, Kenny? It's kind of like Simeon when he told her how great the birth of Jesus was, but then also told her she would have a spear in her, you know, in her mouth, have a spear in her soul.
That's right, that's right. Stay with me, Kenny, we're going to get more callers, 866-348-7884, 866-34-TRUTH, we'll be right back. We Three Kings today on Truth Talk Live! What are your thoughts about these three wisest shoppers of all time?
What's up with these gifts? We would love your comments, we would love your ideas, 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884, especially how we can take these ideas and apply them to our Christmas list for Jesus this season, right? How can we use that gold, how can we use that frankincense, how can we use that myrrh in our own lives to give back, right, to the man who is everything, as we've talked about earlier. And again, this whole passage in Matthew chapter 2, if I read that, to kind of spark your interest, again, I would love your calls at 866-348-7884, but it says, Now Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king. Behold, wise men from the east came to Jerusalem, saying, Where is he who was born king of the Jews? For we have seen his star in the east, and have come to worship him. When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled in all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born. So they said to him, In Bethlehem Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet, But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are the least among the rulers of Judah. For out of you shall come a ruler, who will shepherd my people Israel. And so just to stop there for a minute and think about those, you know, one of the major themes, certainly, of Christmas is Bethlehem. And so what are your thoughts about that? I have all sorts of things. I'd love to hear yours.
866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. So Beth means, you know, essentially a house, and lehem in Hebrew means bread. And so here you got the house of bread, and here you got the bread of life being born in the house of bread. And it's fascinating also to think that Bethlehem was where they raised the Passover lambs, and on that very hill where the shepherds were. And again, you can see making reference to the shepherd again. And of course, you may remember that David was born in Bethlehem, and Rachel certainly, you know, died in Bethlehem, and Ruth, you know, came to get her kinsman-redeemer in Bethlehem. And so it has quite a history that Jesus would be born in a manger, which is a feeding trough essentially, again in Bethlehem. And that we would all, obviously, through communion, you know, take the bread of life in as his body, that we would have that remembrance of him that is talked about. And so it's beyond cool, don't you think? That God uses that idea of Bethlehem, but what are your thoughts about Bethlehem?
Or what are your thoughts about the frankincense, or the gold, or the myrrh? We would love to know. We'd love to have a discussion with you.
866-348-7884. And even in that, right? You know, what kind of bread did we continue to take in? When you think about Jesus is the Word, right? In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God, and was God. And so, you know, it's kind of neat as we eat the Word, as we study our Scriptures, as we study this idea of Matthew chapter 2 again and again and again every year. You know, what can we glean that we can feed on this year that we hadn't seen before? I know you got something to share.
And man, it'd just be a shame that I didn't get to hear it, because I would love to. 866—the number to call in? 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. You know, again, that fourth verse, or the fourth refrain in We Three Kings says, Myrrh is mine, it's bitter perfume. Breeze a life of gathering gloom.
Sorrow sighing, bleeding dying, sealed in a stone cold tomb. And that's one aspect of Myrrh I don't disagree with. However, when you look in the Song of Songs, time and again, it means something completely different, right? And she talks about many times that my beloved is like Myrrh that is there between my breath, like this is a big deal, Myrrh. And how many times in the Song of Songs did they talk about this amazing spice, her fingers were dripping with liquid Myrrh on the handles of a lock, and those kind of things that would indicate that fragrance was something more than just bitter, right? It apparently was extremely attractive, and extremely sensual in some way. And so, you know, it's interesting to me to try to think now, okay, if I'm going to make out my Christmas list this year for Jesus, you know, how can I use Myrrh in a way to worship him, or in a way to share him, or in a way to essentially, you know, give something back to him?
And I really, I am thinking, and studying, and wondering, and I'm pondering like Mary did all these things in her heart, I would love your thoughts on this. I really would. 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884, looks like we got Marty in Florida. So Marty, you're on Truth Talk Live. Your thoughts? Yeah, I was just listening to your show, and I, you know, I was just thinking about all the benefits.
You know, if there was three kings to come, three travelers to come, what would they bring? And I was just thinking that obviously gold is, you know, $2,800 an ounce right now, but so that's going to become an obvious one. It's going to need some financial support here and there. I'm sure they used it, but even like frankincense, I mean, that's got so many health benefits. Oh yeah, I hadn't thought about that. And protective benefits. I mean, it's antimicrobial. It's an antifungal. It's a great scent. It helps open up your respiration. I mean, there's just immunity benefits with it. And then the myrrh has got this great scent as well. And so all of a sudden it's like, you know what, you know, these are practical items that are going to be needed, you know, for Christ to keep him healthy when he's in this, you know, kind of frail state.
Even though he's, you know, our Heavenly Father incarnate in human flesh, he's still a little baby at this point. So, you know, just thinking as I was driving and listening to your show, it's like, you know, there's actually some practical benefit to those amazing herbs and spices that we might kind of overlook. I mean, I just, I just, that's why I am so grateful for your call, Marty. I mean, that just opened up a whole new, like you just opened up a whole new nasal passage for me. Like, oh, wow.
Yes, that's so true. It just came to me. So, you know, I mean, I mean, you know what, I mean, God has given us this great pharmacy called Herbs and Spices, you know, that we need to be using. And there's a great product that we have in my clinic. It's called Golden Milk. It's turmeric and carminin and ginger and cinnamon and black pepper. And, you know, and it's just, you know, and these things are natural ways of God that is given to us on this planet to help us.
That way, you slow down on for a second, Marty, that was too too good to just run through. So you don't know this, or maybe you've heard me do it on the show before, but I have some coffee I make every morning. It's Robbie's perfect, like, and what I do is I mix turmeric and cinnamon and ginger, actually peppermint and pepper. But you said something about some kind of milk that I missed. Yeah, so Golden Milk is the tea of Asia. And you're very close to the organic recipe of that.
There's a, it's called Golden Latte. And according to Harvard and WebMD, it's got like over 40 different health benefits, including, you know, lowering blood pressure, thinning the blood, neuroprotective, you know, prevents against radical aging with neurodegeneration. And just a lot of antifungal is just so many different health benefits. But it's a combination of those that you listed, plus carminin is a common one. But this is... Say that one again, carminin. Carminin, carminin, carminin. It's another herb that's a very nice herb that has a lot of health benefits.
I'm actually writing this down. So you got to tell me, Marty, how do you spell carminin? I use it as well. It's a card. So it's card, like playing card and then A-M-O-N. Oh man, I got to find me some of that right away, because I got to tell you.
You should, you should. It's about two parts, it's about four parts turmeric, two parts carminin, one part cinnamon, ginger, and also cloves. And then also black pepper is what we have at the client. Oh, I love cloves.
Yeah, yeah. And that's anti-parasitic. And so there's a lot of health benefits with it. I have to tell you that like, and then this is totally on subject from my standpoint, because you're right, this stuff is so practical.
Like, of course it is. And see, I had this horrible pain in my hands. Like I thought, man, I got horrible arthritis or something. I couldn't move my thumbs. They just hurt like crazy. And somebody said, you know, drink some turmeric.
And so when I started doing that immediately, like I cannot even believe I could move my hands like there was no tomorrow. So what you're talking about is exactly, man, that's so helpful. I'm going to find me some carminin. Thank you, Marty, man. You made my day. Thank you so much for calling it. Thank you.
God bless you too. We'll be right back. We need your call. 866-348-7884. We Three Kings today on Truth Talk Live. How can the wisest shoppers of all time give us some insight on what we can get for Jesus this year?
We would love your ideas. 866, I certainly love Marty's. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. You know, how can we make this practical for our, you know, worship of Christ? You know, what we can get him like, as we were talking about with the frankincense being like prayers and certainly the gold being, how can we reflect him? But, you know, it's fascinating to me. I've been asking like, and I believe me, I would love, love, love your call. But I was, you know, it kind of hit me between the eyes and I was like, well, duh. On the myrrh.
Are you ready for this, Grayson? That, you know, since it really is a bitter perfume and, you know, if you think about it, when you're died to yourself, right? That we have an opportunity, I would think all of us do, to take up our cross daily in all sorts of different ways that we die to ourselves. And interestingly, in that way, right, we're offering myrrh. When there's something that really, you know, it just goes against your best interests altogether to take part in whatever it is to help somebody, then wow, you know, what an opportunity to offer myrrh. I'd never thought of that. It just came to me and I went, oh, well, yeah. And I'm sure many of you already knew that.
But if you know something else, believe me, I would love your insight. 866-348-7884, 866-34-TRUTH. How can we offer myrrh to our king? How can we offer frankincense?
How can we offer gold? And I loved Marty's, you know, just the practical aspect of it. That, you know, this young child, you know, he needed these very practical, like, you know, certainly antibacterial and antifungal things that you can imagine, you know, what it was like back then to have these spices, you know, just to promote his health. And it's pretty cool to think that here these three men came to worship him, but in the same way, you know, they were really protecting him. And it's kind of interesting as we all bear his name if we're Christians, right, that as we offer up our lives and as we make sacrifices and do those kind of things, that in our own way, right, we're protecting him. And, you know, we have an opportunity to take part in this gift-giving process that, you know, I've thought about it all season that Jesus was a gift that was wrapped by God before time began. God was wrapping it, realizing and looking forward to the day that Robbie's eyes would light up as he unwrapped the gift of Jesus. He saw the peace that Robbie would have in the forgiveness of the many shenanigans I've gotten myself into and many problems that I would suffer and the ability to forgive that only comes through Jesus, right, the hurts that have happened in my life, the betrayals that have happened in my life. How would I have peace?
How would I have hope? You know, how would I have joy, you know, without that gift that was wrapped, you know, before time began for Robbie? And again, God's eyes were lighting up. Well, now we have that opportunity, right, as we think about it this Christmas, to wrap our gifts, right? And here's a, you know, starter list is gold, frankincense, and myrrh, right, the three wisest ideas of all time. And so I would love, believe me, to hear your thoughts on it, 866-348-7884.
If you have some comments on Bethlehem or on the three kings or however many kings you think there might have been, you know, the song makes reference to the three gifts, and so I don't think the hymn writer was necessarily saying there were just three, but however many there were, maybe you have some thoughts on why that's something that we can really ponder in our hearts like Mary did this particular Christmas. And certainly, you know, I've loved thinking about it all hour and pondering it. And now I know about Cardamom, actually found it on Amazon, ordered some, said I could have it tomorrow, and so I'm hoping that by Thursday morning I'm going to have a new addition to Robbie's ultimate coffee that I can tell you. This coffee has been a miracle thing for my health in so many different ways.
You know, I started about the same time I tried to lose weight, and oh my goodness, how much better I feel, and the lack of inflammation, all the stuff that happened as a result of that. But we do have Mike calling in from Dayton, and so Mike, you're on Truth Talk Live. Good evening, Mike.
Good evening. Hey, you know, just real quick thought, maybe... Good, good. I love... Yeah, God came to the wise men in a dream and said, you know, go a different route. And then also he said go to, he told Joseph the same thing, came to him in a dream before that, and go, you know, go to Egypt. Right. And right after they gave him the gifts, you know, and so they had to be obedient to God, you know, they had to listen to God's voice and do that. So my thinking is maybe, well, it's maybe it's a good one to receive the gift of God, you know, you have to listen to his voice and receive it, you know, so... Oh, you know, that Mike is so profound, it really is, because, you know, the whole Shema, the hero Israel, the Lord your God, the Lord is one, but it starts out with the idea of here. And that word in Hebrew, Shema, that is translated here is like my ears are hearing, but it also means to obey.
It's the same word. Right. And so it, just like you said, you not only hear it, but you hear it to the extent like, oh, yeah, that's my next move.
That's my next move. And your life is just, to me, a whole testimony of that, that you hear things and the next thing you know, you're obeying, like you're pushing some guy's car through the median with a seatbelt. Right. You heard, but you also obeyed and that, you know, therein lies the whole idea.
Yeah. And maybe that's why it resonated with me, you know, when you were reading, you know, I read along with you and then they were hearing God's word, you know, hearing from God saying to go and, you know, and they were obedient, you know, and I think that's, you know, real quickly, you know, how a car you get, like, let's say you got a gift and it was a brand new car. Well, after a while that car just seems to get old and not as nice. Well, the gift of God, the more you obey him, the more the gift is even more, it becomes even newer and then even more exciting, you know what I mean? So the more you understand what God wants you to do, the more you get excited about God and about the gift of God, you know, so. And it works for you though.
I love that, Mike. It's like your Bible, right? It's probably more old and tattered than it's ever been. However, it's more precious to you than it ever was. It's newer than it ever was. And you couldn't be more excited, right? The more you read it, the more you want to read it. Isn't that just absolutely the way it is? Right. It's a gift that doesn't, it doesn't go old, you know, you can, you can put it aside, but then when you go back and Google back and get it again, then you go, why did I, why did I put that aside so long?
You know what I mean? So you gave me the idea, I got to finish where I started. So Matthew chapter two, I stopped at six, so we got to move on to seven. So here, then Herod, when he had secretly called the wise men, determined from them what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, go and search carefully for the young child.
And when you have found him, bring back word to me that I may come and worship him also. When they heard the king, they departed and behold, the star, which they had seen in the east, went before them till it came and stood over where the young child was. When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. And when they had come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary, his mother, and fell down and worshiped him.
And when they had opened their treasures, they presented to him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Then being divinely warned in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed for their own country to try another way. And when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, arise, take the young child and his mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word, for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the group, excuse me, when he arose, he took the young child and his mother at night and departed for Egypt, and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, out of Egypt I called my son. Right? So, exactly what you just described, Mike, that he heard, and he got up, and headed to Egypt, and he didn't even have GPS, he didn't have a phone, like.
And if he didn't, it would have been dire consequences, you know what I mean? So, you with me? Well, it's, you know, I just can't even imagine, you know, waking up from a dream. It's not just like you're moving out of town. It's not like you're, it's not like you're just moving out of state.
Like, you're moving out of the country. Yeah, yeah, they're going to Egypt. Right, and Egypt, you know, is not exactly the place where, you know, you, you know, just friendly to the Jewish people in a lot of different ways. So, you know, that's, that's a fascinating amount of obedience there, but Joseph had demonstrated that right.
He probably had that gift like you talked about, because, you know, clearly he, he went through the thing with Mary that was just unbelievable. Yeah, and didn't, wasn't, well, sorry, I hear the music, but I had a, had a quick question, but that's okay. Well, thank you, Mike, for calling in. Thank you all for listening today. And so we get our gifts ready, guys. Gold, frankincense, and myrrh. How can you use those for Jesus this season? I am so grateful for your call, Mike. And for all of you listening, and have a glorious Christmas season as we'll be back tomorrow.
