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It's amazing. It may have been a boss along the way, a Boy Scout leader. There have been, even if you had a great, great, great dad like I did, I'm gonna bet that you've had amazing people come alongside to father you.
Through certain parts of your life. And as we did on the Christian Car Guy show here a week or so ago, that Jews believe in a hundred blessings, or a hundred thanksgivings a day. And so I'm gonna bet that, like Mark 10 talks about, 1030 actually is my birthday verse, which I love, based on Dr. Carson sharing that with me. And he's here with me. It says, but he shall receive a hundred, now and this time, houses and brethren and sisters and mothers and children.
And lands with persecutions and in this world to come, eternal life. And so, you know, a lot of those brethren, I can tell you, have been fathers to me. And I would love to know your story. I know you got one. I want to hear it. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. I'm thankful for fathers, Dr. Carson. I know you are.
You ought to believe it. And like you, the role of my father, instrumental in so many ways. And then as I went into the ministry, the Mark 1030, so many different men in different directions helped me out and just showed me what it meant to myself one day be a husband, to be a father. Just tremendous mentorship. And I think that's one of the great roles of a father, to help their children become men, to become women.
They mentor them. Oh, and in your case, I'm jealous, actually. You had Dr. Falwell himself, right, in so many ways that came in to father you through so many of those things as you were the campus pastor at Liberty, right? I sure did. He was a very close friend. And yes, I looked to him as a father.
He and his wife, role models, I remember one time writing them a note for their anniversary just to let them know how much it meant to watch their love story unveiled in front of Demita and myself. Dr. Falwell always came home, if he was on this side of the Mississippi, the east side, he always flew back home because his wife wanted him home and she didn't want him staying away. So sometimes we'd fly him back and get home at two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning, but she wanted him home and he came home. And that just spoke volumes to me about here's a husband who loved his wife and met her needs. She needed her husband to be home.
Isn't that beautiful? Well, I know you've got some stories out there, and it is Thanksgiving, so it's a perfect time. And in Deuteronomy, there was a deep study that King David did when they started to have all these people die in Jerusalem. And they came to this conclusion that there, in Deuteronomy 10 12, that there was a deep meaning inside of it that you were to give 100 thanksgivings or 100 blessings a day for God. And, you know, if you think about it, I'll bet you you had over 100 men come into your life and father, I don't know if you ever thought about counting those. But we had a wonderful lunch, Dr. Carson and I did, Stu Epperson, actually one of my many fathers.
I would count Stu definitely as one of those. You know, I know I'm a little bit older than he is, but believe me, we have been dear, dear friends for many years, and he has fathered me through many situations. But anyway, we had a lunch and Jamie Johnson, who's with Crossfire Ministries, I hope you've got to hear him on our shows one time or another, just a really, really gifted evangelist, but he told a story about his father, didn't he, Dr. Carson? Oh, he told a story that, I mean, it brought tears to my eyes to think about how his father taught him about the love of God.
Yeah, well, I'll do my best to relate it. Essentially, his father raised quail, and he had apparently like 500 of them. And if you can imagine, in this farm, there's 500 quail in the backyard, and his job was to feed the quail and house the quail, do all that kind of thing. And one day, he and his buddy were out there, and they let out, left the cage open, and 500 quail, you know, got gone. Well, they would use these quail to, you know, to feed the neighbors and that kind of stuff.
So in his mind, Jamie thought, well, I'll kill some of them, so at least we have some quail. So he got his slingshot and a little rock, and to make matters worse, you know, he misses the quail and proceeds to send the rock through his neighbor's expensive car's windshield. And now he's in double trouble because he gets accused of that, and he lies that his buddy did it. And now he's added up to triple trouble. He's nine years old, if you can imagine.
At this point in time, he hasn't received Christ as he explains it, though his father was a pastor. And his father, of course, comes home. I don't even want to think about, you know, what that would feel like, wait till your father gets home.
Yeah, really, on something, 500 quail and a broken windshield of an expensive car. So his dad gets home. He tells him to pick out a belt and come upstairs, right? And I just see this scene so vividly, as I'll relate one of my own stories with my father here in a minute. But nonetheless, he comes upstairs, and his father is taking his shirt off. And he lays across the bed and explains grace, and that he's going to take this beating from Jamie.
So this led to his conversion. How amazing. I bet you've got a story. That welled up something between Dr. Carson and myself. We want to hear it.
866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. We'll be right back with your story, I hope. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. We're having a blast today on Truth Talk Live.
Thankful for fathers, but 100 blessings, 100 thanksgivings a day. And I'm here with my good friend, Dr. Carson, but I want to be here with you. So you've got to call us with your story.
866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. Doc, you did some math during the break. I sure did. You got me interested in this. If we're awake 17 hours, okay, you times that by 60, I divided that by 100. Basically, we need to be given a praise or a thanks to God for his rich blessings every 10 minutes of our life while we're awake, every 10 minutes. And from the moment we wake up until the going down of the sun, we're to be praising the Lord. I love this. I had never seen this, the 100 blessings a day. It is really, really cool.
And a little background on that is, and again, we want to hear yours, by the way. 866-348-7884 is, again, David was having this horrible, excuse me, plague in Jerusalem. It might have been like COVID-001. But anyway, they did a deep study on Deuteronomy 10, 12, and they realized that there are 100 letters in that verse.
If you count them, I did it twice just to make sure. There are 100 letters in that verse, and I think the sixth or seventh word that they translate is ma, which is like what, is actually another way to say 100. And it's talking about what God requires.
In other words, Deuteronomy 10, 12, it says, And now, Israel, here's what the Lord thy God requires of thee, but to fear the Lord thy God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord thy God with all thy heart and all thy soul. Well, it's kind of interesting to think that part of what he requires, and those of us who have children know what it's like when you give a child something and they are so grateful. It's unbelievable how that blesses you. Versus when you give a child something and they act like it was expected, and it's not so much a blessing.
You know what I'm saying? And it's really an opportunity for us to be grateful today, especially for fathers, and to relate something about that story. And when I heard Jamie tell it today at lunch, and again, to finish up the story, his father offered his own back to take the belt for the losing of the quail and the window being broken in the car and all that stuff, which ended up with Jamie's actual salvation.
And of course, it's so vivid, and God's used that, it sounds like, to save maybe hundreds of thousands of people as he shared this testimony as an evangelist across the country. But one time my little brother and I were fighting, my little brother Mark, and we were both Boy Scouts, and so we had a Boy Scout knife. And it's not unusual for brothers to fight, I guess.
It certainly wasn't for my brother and I. And I was his big brother, so I guess he felt outmatched, and he whipped out this knife. Oh my.
Yeah, yeah. So me being a snitch, I guess I was, I went and told dad, I was like, man, this is against whatever code of brotherhood, you don't pull a knife on your brother. And so of course, we go in the bedroom with the belt, the whole scene, I just relived it from Jamie Steele. And what my dad did was like the wisdom of Solomon, because immediately my brother said, oh, I didn't pull a knife, there's no way I pulled a knife.
And I was like, oh, yes, he did. And my dad was like, okay, here's what we're gonna do. He said, first of all, Mark, pull down your pants and Robbie, here's a belt and let him have it for pulling a knife on you. And of course, after I did that, then he says, all right, now, Robbie, you pull down yours, Mark, let him have it for lying and then beating you. Of course, Mark couldn't put much into his whipping, and then he had a little discussion with my dad afterwards.
Isn't that interesting? When I heard Jamie's story, I immediately recalled my own. And there was so much I learned in that little incident with my dad.
Yeah. And so what's your story? I know you got 1-866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. And I would challenge you, and I have done this myself, is go find your 100 fathers. In other words, and there's 100 blessings right there, be thankful for all 100. And I could just, you know, like Dr. Falwell was one of Pastor Carson's. But in my case, you know, one of the really cool ones that came along was Pastor Mark Quartz, for those of you who are familiar with Cavalry Baptist Church here in Winston-Salem. He was the pastor for many, many years. And when I just came to Christ, I'd been in Christ maybe six months when we moved to Winston-Salem, and he was our pastor. And, you know, he came across the parking lot, right? My wife and I, brand new, walking across the parking lot of this huge church, something like we'd never seen before, because I think at the time they had like 6,000 members. And this guy comes bopping up, and he holds out his hand, and he goes, Hi, I'm Mark, and you are?
And I tell him I'm Robbie, and it's my wife Tammy, and Robbie and Tess were the only children we had at the time. And I introduced him, and he goes, Oh, well, we're so glad you came to Calvary. You're going to love this church. I mean, he was so excited, but he didn't happen to mention that he was the pastor, right? So you can imagine my shock and awe is, you know, after this wonderful introduction to the church, all of a sudden we see this guy take the stage of this huge church with all these people, and it's him, right?
And as impressive as that was, and it was impressive, it was nowhere near as impressive as about three months later, we're coming across the parking lot again. Here he comes. Pastor Quartz. Hey, Robbie. Not only did he know my name, how's Robbie, how's Tammy, how's little Robbie doing in school, how's Tess doing?
He goes, How are things working out over at Bob Neil, where I had gone to work? Not only did he know my name, not only did he know my wife's name and my kids' names, but he knew where I worked. There were 6,000 members of that church, but that man loved me. He was my pastor. He was, in a way, my father, right? And it was not unusual, it wasn't at all, for Pastor Quartz to call me like, Robbie, I heard you're going through this, or I heard you're going through that. There's no explaining what it felt like to have an actual pastor slash father out there for you if you're in a church, right?
We think of fathers as great providers of great protectors. And the way my father, for me, Robbie, one day, he literally knocked the daylights out of me. I was sitting beside him as we were working on a machine, and all of a sudden, his arm hand comes around and just knocks me backwards. I'm like, What in the world did I do wrong? Well, at that moment, as I landed, a snake went by me. Oh my goodness. And my dad had knocked me out of the way so that snake would not be able to bite me.
How cool is that? Well, we need your story. 866-348-7884. We got Jamal when we come back, Dr. Carson. But we need you.
866-348-7884. We'll be right back with a whole lot more. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today, we are talking about being thankful as it is Thanksgiving Eve, Eve, which I dearly love that idea, and a hundred Thanksgivings, especially for fathers. Have you ever thought about that God is the master? Like, he is like conducting a symphony of fathers in our lives. Pointing back, of course, to the Heavenly Father as that's what Jesus said. I am the way. To way to what? The way to the Father. And so this amazing thing is this Thanksgiving rolls around that we get a chance to be thankful for fathers.
And so I would love to hear your story. 866-348-7884 is the number to call and share. 866-348-7884. We have Jamal. He's in Winston-Salem. Jamal, you're on Truth Talk Live, my friend.
What you got for us? Good day, Mr. Dilmore. Always a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm glad you're doing the show. Saw you a little while ago, so it's always good to hear you on the radio. Yeah, I'd love to see you too, Jamal. And of course, we were there with Dr. Carson. All three of us were there.
That's right. A nice little reunion. I wanted to just comment on the topic. And just real quick, I'm still at Gillian's Bookstore here in King. Shout out to Gillian's Bookstore. Good bookstore to go to. I was just there too. Yeah, it's an amazing bookstore.
Yeah, so you know if you have superstars like Robbie Dilmore to come in, you know that's got to be a good store to go to. So I also want to thank you for having the show about fathers, fatherhood, male figures. Because my belief, and I just had this poll on me today listening to your show to comment on fathers, because we need to highlight fathers more. It's unfortunate that we are living in a society to where some people want to talk about male toxicity or the toxic male. But God said that the man is to be the head of the household.
He's got to be the leader. Well, why do some people want to say that there's toxic males out there? Because they want to get rid of authority. They want to get rid of the authority of the Bible. So if they get rid of the male authority, the authority of the Bible, then I can do whatever I want to. There's no authority. There's no standard. There's nothing holding me conviction, holding conviction over me to do what I need to do to hold me to a good moral standard.
If there's no moral standard, again, I can do what I want to do. So we need male fathers. We need standards. We need images to follow.
We need image bearers. We need people to say this is what a man is. This is what a godly man is. So we can raise other godly men so we can lead the country, our homes, the way we should do, the way Jesus wanted us to.
That's so beautiful, Jamal. And I thought about what Dr. Carson relayed in the very first segment. I hope you heard it, that Jerry Falwell, Dr. Falwell, he made an extra effort to fly home every single night.
You don't need to talk about a godly man showing a godly example, right? To all those young men that were clearly around, I would imagine, Dr. Carson, there were a lot of people that were like, really? We're going to get on a plane and go back to Lynchburg? Why aren't we staying in a hotel tonight?
Nope. We're going to get on a plane and we're flying back. And I will also tell a secret on him. While he would take a nap in the afternoon flying out somewhere, boy, after he preached and would get on a plane, he was wired then. You've got to be ready for some serious discussions with him about things that need to take place next.
So though the flight's back, we're not taking a nap. You were engaged in a really good conversation with him. That's interesting. And having preached a few times myself, and I know you have, Dr. Carson, the Holy Spirit illuminates stuff that you never... I can't believe how many times I've been standing there preaching. All of a sudden, the Holy Spirit just makes me aware of something I'd never seen before. And you're like, oh my goodness. And of course, what a way to deliver it when you're right in the middle of the sentence. And so there he was, full of the Spirit.
And I can't even imagine Jerry Falwell. He says, all right, boys, here's what's that. I mean, what a wonderful thing to be able to experience. Yes. Yes. Jamal, thank you for your call. I wanted to let you guys talk.
I just want to get off and let you guys converse. Thank you. Well, I'm not going to let you get off that easy, Jamal.
I want one story, real story, about not necessarily your earthly father, but whoever it is that jumps out in your mind that was somebody that helped mold Jamal into Jamal. Oh, no. OK. All right. This is embarrassing. But I've got to be honest. And this is not to, you know, not to just gush over somebody.
This is just honest. It was actually Stu Epson, one of the founders, not one of the de-founders of Truth Network. I've told the story many times, but I've asked. So he came by Papa John's when I was a pizza delivery driver, told me about the show. And I wasn't listening to anything like that. I was kind of like your fence-sitting Christian.
Well, once I started tuning in to Truth Network, I got opened up to a whole new world. And he didn't tell me he was the owner. He just said, hey, God, this is a nice radio station. So I think we all can see him doing that, if you know Stu. I mean, he never stops at a stoplight that he doesn't tell people to roll down their window. That is very true.
That's true. So it wasn't so much him. It was him guiding me to a great program.
And I think it's a scripture in the Bible, you guys can help me out, about a beggar leading other beggars to where they can find bread. And that's what Stu was. He led me to where I could find bread. So that's a guy that was really influential to me right there.
Jamal, I'm with you. I am totally with you that having been around Stu, I think we got together the first time probably in 1995. We were in Christian business committee together. And he was my rep with WSJS when I ran the Pontiac store in Winston.
And so it's been a back and forth for us for years and years and years. And again, he has fathered me through so many different cool things. And I can gush as well on Dr. Carson. For those who don't know, I'm the producer of Date the Word. Oh, okay.
Anyway, I listened to him and helped him record. And it's like a revival in there. If you can imagine, every month we go through 30 verses and we got a chance to, and of course, we never just let one lay there. If it jumps out at one of us, I mean, we dig in and we go for a ride, don't we, Doc?
Oh, we go for a ride. And it's one of the greatest joys I've had just being able to really get into the Word deeper. And as you said, for me, it's a revival. It's just the Spirit of God is at work as we are taping these verses for every day. And, Robbie, I just so appreciate your encouragement, insights with the Word. The Word, it changes their lives. And fathers who pour the Word into their children, it will not return void. So I can just give that plug right there.
There's got to be some fathers out there right now who have fathers who poured into them. And we love to hear their stories. So give us a call. Yes, 866-348-7884 is the number calling. And, Sherry, let's just love it. Whoever that might be for you.
866-348-7884. Jamal, so grateful for your friendship, so grateful for one of the great supporters of the Truth Network, my friend. God bless you. Thank you.
God bless. Have a great Thanksgiving, too, by the way. And I know you'll be giving that. You too. All right, buddy. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye. So, you know, it's really a neat thing when you open this up. And, again, if you give it and you really begin to expand your mind, what we do at The Masculine Journey is we actually put together a picture book of the fathers that God has orchestrated into your life. And I have it in a presentation where, you know, here was my earthly father, which was an amazing man, you know, certainly taught me so much. But then God kept bringing, he brought a coach, you know, a basketball coach. I bet you had a basketball coach or somebody along those lines, didn't you, Doc? Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. Coach Ernie Guill. And he just, he modeled integrity.
He never got upset with a player, never got upset with a referee. Whatever was happening, he was ready to teach how to work through the pressure. Yeah, that is so, yeah, that's a big deal. So we got Mike is in Dayton, Ohio.
Mike, you're on Truth Talk Live, my friend. Good to have you today. Well, thank you. My father was my mentor. You know, I'm not just saying that. He really was. I know he was.
Wait till you hear these stories when we come back. I mean, was it mints? I'm trying to think. Candy cane?
What were they? No, it wasn't mints or candy canes. There was something he bought in Mexico. He bought a ball he could get. When we come back... Oh, it was chiclets.
I knew it was gum. There you go. When we come back, we got more on being thankful for fathers.
Stay tuned. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live today. We are trying to give 100 blessings at least. Thankful for the fathers in our lives, not just the biological fathers, which are awesome, but also maybe God brought another kind of father in your life that helped, you know, draw you closer to God, closer to each other, those kind of things. Amazing opportunities that we all have with fatherhood, which was something that God clearly orchestrated.
God clearly designed families that we would feel like we belong somewhere, where we felt like we would be safe, where we felt like we were loved and that we were the apple of somebody's eye. It's a huge thing. And you think even Jesus' baptism where the father breaks protocol and he shouts out from heaven, this is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased, right?
The Holy Spirit comes down and you have the triune Godhead all in the same place at the same time. It's for all to see. It's an amazing thing that fathers do. And when we left our hero, Mike, he was sharing about his father. So I don't want to change up your story and go to the chiclets or whatever.
Share what you want, Mike. Well, my dad was always there for me and I'm there for my sons and daughters as well and my grandkids. He was, you know, he was awesome. There's one story. We were rabbit hunters. We had two beagle dogs at one time.
And when I was a kid, I was 12 years old, 13 years old. Oh, Mike, I have to know, were they wascally wabbits? Yeah, they were wascally rabbits. And we loved to go rabbit hunting.
I mean, my dad, I, you know, honestly, be honest, I really didn't like it that well because my dad loved it so much. I was out there with him and he wanted, he says, Mike, you want to go hunting? I go, I would never say no. I would always say, oh, yeah, sure, let's go.
You know what I mean? And it would it would be freezing outside or cold or snowy. And this one story, it was about two feet of snow outside and it was blowing and it was cold.
And, you know, when you're holding the gun, it's like hands fall off, bite onto the gun. And he's and we're out in this field and we jump a rabbit. Right. And this I mean, we got a foot of snow outside and it's oh, it's awful.
Right. And all of a sudden we jump a rabbit. And my dad says, stay right here, Mike. Stay right here. And I'll I'll track this rabbit.
I'll bring it back to you. OK, so he tracks this rabbit and he goes around the woods and he tracks it and tracks it. I can see him in the distance and I was seeing the rabbit go in front of him and he's tracking a rabbit and the rabbit's coming right by me. And I'm like, I'm all nervous.
And I shoot and I miss the rabbit. And my dad comes up and goes, did you did you get it? I go, no, I missed that.
He goes, that's OK. We'll get it next time. And I'm just stay here. Don't move.
Don't move. And then we'll go around. Well, to make a long story short, he did this four or five times. And I'm like, holy smokes, my dad died hard.
Right. And I'm I'm not freezing and I'm dying. And all of a sudden this rabbit comes by and it's sitting there looking right at me and I shoot it and I get it. You know, and my dad said, did you get it? He said, I got to give up on this run. And I said, yeah, I got it.
He says, OK, let's go home. And, you know, and those are the moments where my dad would do just about anything for me. You know, and and that's the way that's what father should be about. And our godly father.
Here we go. Our godly father will just do about anything for us. He's run a few rabbits by me until I missed him.
Yeah, he's going to run that same rabbit back. And and as you relay that, Mike and Dr. Carson, I can't help but think of today is November 26th. And I don't know if you're familiar with it, but there's an organization called 365 Christian Men and they do an amazing video every single day of the year on some Christian man. You know, everybody from William Wilberforce to just ordinary people like me. And on November 26, they tell the story of Johnny Hendricks, which was a car salesman that worked for me that the Lord ran that rabbit by more than one occasion.
If you have time to go watch it today, it's at 365 Christian Men. But anyway, the story is exactly like it, Mike. Johnny came to me when he was diagnosed with cancer. And honestly, I was too busy to really listen to what he was telling me that day.
And although he'd worked for me at this point in time for six or seven years, I didn't get it. He ran that rabbit right by me. But then unfortunately, he went into a coma.
A couple of weeks later. And fought for his life. And there I was just praying, God, give me another chance. I knew that you ran him right by me and I missed. And I made a deal with God. I said, if you'll give Johnny whatever time I promise you, I'll either introduce him to you or I'll help him to get to know you better.
And I couldn't imagine. But he woke up from that coma after four days. And just like he had not even been in the hospital. And so I really, even though he ran the rabbit right by me again, I didn't know what to say. So I went back to him in prayer. And God told me, well, Robbie, Johnny's a car salesman. And as soon as he told me that, I knew, well, to a car salesman is a deal. So I walked into Johnny's hospital room and I said, Johnny, I made a deal with God. And I'll never forget this expression on his face. Robbie, what kind of deal did you make with God?
I said, well, I made a deal that if he would let you live through that coma that I would either introduce you to him or help you to get to know him better. And Johnny's response, I'll never forget as long as I live. Well, Robbie, you better get to it.
I love it. Another fairly long story. But within two weeks, we had gone through the Gospel of John, and Johnny had given his heart to Christ about a week before he went to be with the Lord.
And that story's related at 365 Christian Men on November 26, because that's the day I originally published it. Robbie, that is so awesome that God let you, I mean, literally, God let you do that. He ran that rabbit right by me.
You ain't kidding. And God is so good that he just keeps chasing us over and over and over again. And a good father will do the same thing. It's so awesome that he just kept chasing you, and you eventually obeyed.
And I bet Dr. Carson, he's ran more than one rabbit by you, right? Absolutely. The multiple opportunities. God is the God of the second chance, the third chance, the 100th chance. And, you know, I just can't help but think today of 1 John 3, 1. Behold what manner of love the Father has for us that we get to call him Father, that we're the children of God. And I'm thankful that I had a father that—first verse I ever learned, my dad taught me John 3, 16.
First verse. Really? Yup. That's kind of an important one to you, isn't it, Doc? It sure is. It sure is. It's God's greatest message to mankind.
And I'll give a plug real quick. We want every pastor to preach this coming March the 16th, it's a Sunday, to preach their best John 3, 16. And fathers, there's no better verse to be given to your children than John 3, 16. Get them started of how much God loves them.
Yeah, it's clearly an opportunity. And my father, he loved hard work, but then he loved to have fun. And, you know, in his presence is fullness of joy. And I couldn't help but think, as I was hearing your story, Michael, how when you were around your father, you had that fullness of joy.
And there was a fullness of joy, really, you know, that I only experienced, you know, when my father was in that complete, playful place that he could get when he would take his trout fishing or whatever he would do. And I know for all of you out there, you didn't have a biological father, perhaps, that was that way, but I will bet the farm that God has sent someone, a grandfather, an uncle, you know, whoever that may be in your life. And like the Heavenly Father's orchestrating this thing to, you know, just bring out the best in us, right, Doc?
Yes, yes. And we do have fathers that, well, let's just say it, they're imperfect. I am a father and I've made it clear to my children from the very get go, I am imperfect. I'm going to make mistakes. I am living to please my Heavenly Father, but I'm not perfect. Their eyes have to be Hebrews chapter 12 says, keep your eyes on Jesus.
He's the only perfect one. It's something about a father when he's willing to admit he was wrong, something about a father willing to admit I made a mistake. I think that really helps children out to understand that humility. But the other thing I will say, because I know some of Doc's kids, they talk about him jumping this fire, like apparently when he was at Liberty, they had these huge fires. And I could hear that joy in his kids' voices when they talked about his dad and these fires and jumping over the fire and all the fun that was had. You know, that's the kind of fun we can all have with our kids this Thanksgiving, whether you're a father or daughter or whatever you got. Man, the joy of the Lord is your strength. Let's have some this Thanksgiving by giving thanks. Thanks for all for listening. We'll be back tomorrow with more.
