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The discussion revolves around the current events in the Middle East, particularly the situation with Israel and Iran. A Messianic Rabbi explains the biblical significance of the enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent, as described in Genesis 3.15. He also discusses the rise of the Antichrist and the campaign of Armageddon, referencing Ezekiel 38 and 39, and the importance of understanding biblical prophecy to navigate the current world events.

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Welcome to Truth Talk Live. All right, let's talk. A daily program powered by the Truth Network. This is kind of a great thing and I'll tell you why. Where pop culture, current events, and theology all come together. Speak your mind. And now, here's today's Truth Talk Live host. I'm Peter Rosenberger.

This is Wednesday and I am here and I am glad that you are as well. And if you want to be on the program, 866-34-TRUTH is the number 866-348-7884. And we are thrilled to delve into some very fast moving events in our world. How many of you all saw the debate last night? I watched every bit of it and a little bit of the afterward to see what people thought. But then I had other things that preoccupied me.

But I did want to watch it. I was very impressed with the discourse. I felt like it was very substantive. And we're getting to know both candidates a little bit better.

And I thought that J.D. Vance came on pretty strong and looked very poised. I think Governor Waltz started off a bit slow and very nervous.

You get out over your skis. And he was working too hard. He was leaning into it too much. And it needed to just kind of take a step back and take a breather and slow down. He was a little bit on the manic side. And the sad thing I think for him is that he really didn't find his stride until he got into the abortion issue.

That is not an issue that I wish to be known for getting into my stride about. It's a horrific evil in this world. And we have allowed this under our watch as believers.

And it is a monstrous evil. And that's what animated him and got him engaged. And I think most pundits feel like that he came across a lot stronger and a lot more engaged once he got to that topic. Which is kind of sad isn't it? I noticed there was a couple things that they glaringly wasted time with. Which was the whole climate change nonsense when we have 180 ballistic missiles launched over from Iran to Israel.

And we've got the longshoremen going on strike. And then we have the media and the Biden administration being complicit in hiding his cognitive impairment. Which is if anybody says he's not cognitively impaired, I don't even know how to have a conversation with somebody about that.

Because he is. Otherwise he'd be running for president. And then I thought it was a little bit on the hubris side of Governor Walz to say that Donald Trump is 78 years old. That kind of thing. And I'm thinking they were going to run an 81 year old guy that couldn't go upstairs.

I mean the biggest enemy to the White House was a flight of stairs. And so I thought that was a little bit on the disingenuous side. But otherwise I felt like it was pretty substantive. I did enjoy watching J.D.

Vance go after Margaret Brennan and Norah O'Donnell for breaking their own rules. And then they cut off his mic and I thought that was kind of fun to watch. I'm going to start off with a quote for you from one of my favorite sources to quote from, if I may end with that word. And that is Sir Winston Churchill. And when I watch the discourse in our political climate, I'm watching and I'm seeing this statement bear out, he occasionally stumbled over the truth but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened. I just love that quote.

He occasionally stumbled over the truth but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened. Does that resonate with you as you watch the discourse in our political theater these days? It is political theater. I was invited by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee to be her guest when we lived in Nashville at the State of the Union back in 2018.

I think it was 2018, maybe in 2019 but it was some time ago and I was up there at the House of Representatives watching all this thing go on and I've been around a lot of politicians over the years and I've been in a lot of political events and ceremonies. But I will tell you this, when I was in Washington D.C. for this thing, it is theater on the grandest scale. I mean it is pure political theater. And I was watching this craziness unfold and so, anyway, I'm a junkie of political stuff.

I am, I admit it. I love watching it. I like seeing the intrigue and the policy shaping and the, as Bush would say, well as they said about Bush, the strategery. And I enjoy watching it but at the core of it I'm also very concerned about the direction of this country and the leadership of this country which seems to be wanting and feckless. We do know that God is sovereign and God establishes civil leadership.

He said this in scripture and none of this is outside of the authority of God and even if they act inappropriately they are put there because of the authority of God. But in this country we have certain freedoms that are given to us and certain rights and if we do not take advantage of those and be good stewards of those we will lose them. It's just a matter of time and part of that is we have to vote so I want to make sure that I do my part in encouraging as many people as I can to vote, to register to vote and to vote and the time is running out. We've only got 33 days left before this election. And if you think this is a consequential election then I would suggest you make sure you vote because it is imperative on us to make our voices heard.

And some people, and I said this last week, some people say well I'm picking the lesser of two evils. No, we're voting to lessen the evil at whatever level we can and that we can live peacefully if possible but we have to do our part. We have a stewardship responsibility and this is an extraordinary nation. I come from a family of great emphasis on duty and stewardship and part of that is voting.

And my father passed that on to me and I honor his memory and the work he did with his life by making sure that I carry on his commitment to helping push this nation forward in a better direction. This is Peter Rosenberg and this is Truth Talk Live. We're going to talk about this thing with Israel when we come back.

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Use my name, Peter, for a promo code or just go to my website, PeterRosenberger.com. All right. Are you watching what's going on in the Middle East? I'm sure you are. Most of us are. And I've watched this thing with Iran.

Actually, I've been watching Israel now for some time with great interest and admiration. And I have two people. I have a family member who is a diplomat in the U.S. State Department. I can't tell you who he is because I'm not allowed to. And he is highly involved with all these things. So I get one side from there and the other side is my friend, Dr. Eric Walker, Rabbi Eric Walker, who has, he and I have been friends for many years. And he's become my go-to for this.

He's a scholar, Messianic Rabbi, and he has been delving into these things. And so I'll call him up and we'll have lengthy conversations. Well, he will talk. I will listen because I don't even know good questions to ask him sometimes. But he's calling in from Belize, down in Central America, and I'm thrilled to have him here. And so, Rabbi, how are you feeling?

I'm here. Shalom to your audience. And I want to wish all of them the Shana Torah as this evening begins the Feast of Trumpets, as it's called in the Bible. But Rosh Hashanah is the Hebrew name, Yom Teruah, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of the Trumpet Blast, or Rosh Hashanah, the Head of the New Year, as we enter into the Leviticus 23, God's appointed time in Hebrew is called the Moedim. And these are God's appointed times. The Sabbath is the one that people are most familiar with. But now we're in the Fall Feast as Jesus fulfilled all of the prophecies of the Spring Feast. We now look for his return in the Fall as the scene of his return. Do you, of course, you and I have talked a long time about this, I'm just now introducing you to this audience, but there's no coincidence when it comes to God.

No, as a matter of fact, there's not even an Hebrew word for coincidence. So we're looking at this thing today on the Feast of Trumpets, and as you watch this unfold, I know the whole thing with the pagers and everything else with Israel going on, as you watch this unfold, what are your thoughts, number one, and then where do you go in Scripture? What does your mind immediately go in Scripture? Well, there's two places that we have to begin. I think that Julie Andrews made it very clear that we should start at the beginning.

It's a very good place to start. And so the beginning becomes where we look at God's first prophecy. And this first prophecy is recorded in Genesis 3.15, when he said there'll be enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. The seed of the woman is Jesus, our Messiah. The seed of the woman, the seed of the serpent is the Antichrist, the one who we're expecting to rise up and sign a covenant with many. That's not necessarily a peace accord with Israel, as many people have narrowed it down, because there are actually ten kingdoms that are part of the Antichrist reign and join with the armies of the Antichrist.

But then we have to go from there, in that prophecy, to know that there is an anti-Israel, anti-Messiah, anti-Jewish spirit in the world, and it's Jesus' knowledge that the spirit of the Antichrist is here, and it's prevalent. And so if you want to understand the root of anti-Semitism, why is there so much Jewish hatred? Why is Israel, this tiny country, no bigger than the state of New Jersey, always in the headlines? Why is it for 4,000 years that we have been in the land of Israel?

Do people focus so much attention off? It's because God spoke a promise to Abraham in Genesis 12 and 3, and he said very clearly, I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you, and all the nations of the earth will be blessed through you. He was talking about Israel. He was talking about the nation of Israel, the people of Israel.

And I have to tell you, Peter, bottom line, anti-Jewish and anti-Israel is anti-Jesus. There he is. We dropped a signal for just a second.

Can you repeat that last minute? Okay, the last minute was, we looked at Genesis 12 and 3. God spoke to Abraham in Genesis 12 and 3. Are we still connected? Yeah, we're still here.

Okay, all right. So Genesis 12 and 3, I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you, and all the nations of the earth will be blessed through you. Now, understanding Abraham's name, Abraham, the father of many nations, that includes the Gentiles. This was the precursor when God spoke about the nations coming into and providing a way for them to join together under Father Abraham.

But the promise was through Isaac and Jacob. So anti-Israel is anti-Jewish. Anti-Jewish is anti-Jesus. Jesus came as a Jew, lived as a Jew, will return as a Jew, and he will return to Jerusalem to rule and reign for a thousand years. So Israel, in the English it says, Israel is the apple of God's eye, but in the Hebrew it says it's the pupil of God's eye. And the pupil is where light is received and light is perceived.

So the Jews were called to be a light to the nation, a light to the Gentiles, and salvation was to come through the Jews. Sorry, you coming in and out just a hair, but it's a long ways to Belize, to Montana, to North Carolina, to the rest of the country, so thank you for your patience. But I wanted to have Eric on here. We're going to go to a break and see if we can't tighten up this signal just a hair. This is Peter Rosenberger. This is Truth Talk Live, and we're glad that you're with us.

We're going to talk some more with Dr. Rabbi Eric Walker, my longtime friend, who's going to then unpack what we're seeing unfolding in front of us here, okay? Truth Talk Live!

Peter Rosenberger, peterrosenberger.com. Don't go away. We'll be right back. Truth Talk Live! You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger.

Glad to have you with us. 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884, and it's peterrosenberger.com. I'm talking with my longtime friend, Dr.

Rabbi Eric Walker. We do have a little bit of a connection issue. We try to work on it, and if you hear a gap on that, bear with us.

He's in Belize. I'm in Montana, and Truth is in North Carolina, and there are a lot of power issues and everything else going on, so we will do our best to muddle through doing a live show like this. But these are important things to talk about, and he set the table before the break of where things started with this enmity against the Jewish people and how this has been going on for a very, very long time. And so I wanted to, as we do that now, I want to get you, Eric, to go into what are you seeing? When you're watching all these things, I know you can't watch the news and see all these things happening without immediately just your mind just like dominoes flipping through all the scriptures that come to your mind.

Where's your headspace with this? Well, if we look at Iran, the first thing we have to understand is the very name Iran used to be called Persia. It was under the rule of the first shah of Iran. We changed it from Persia to Iran, and in Arabic, Iran means Aryan, like the Aryan nation of Adolf Hitler. So the first shah was a fan of ethnic cleansing and changed the name to pattern himself and his country after what Hitler, may his name be cursed, did to us back during the Holocaust. So we have a nation going all the way back to Haman, to the time of Haman. So just keep in mind that when John wrote the book of Revelation, he was talking about what was, what is, and what is to come. So if we take a look at what was, we have the encounter with Haman who wanted to blot out the name of Israel from the world. He wanted to eliminate us as a race. We fast forward to World War II, where Adolf Hitler annihilated 6 million Jews.

Finally, out of the ashes of the Holocaust, the nation of Israel was birthed as an independent Jewish state. And it has always been Iran's goal under the new construct of the caliphate of the mullahs in Iran, of the Ayatollah, who represent a portion of the Muslim community. They are not the predominant part of the Muslim community. The Shiites, there are Sunnis and Shiites, and they represent the Shiite faction that believes that the Ayatollah is the supreme leader and should head the caliphate. Now, let me interject for just a second, Eric.

Eric, let me interject for just a second. When the Shah of Iran was in power back in the 70s during the Carter administration before the fall of Iran, was he, he wasn't really involved in the religious part that we're seeing that has been there since now, the late 70s. He was more of a secular leader, is that correct? That's correct. Now, he was the second Shah, his father was the first Shah.

Okay. So his father was the, was the Nazi sympathizer. So the, the people may not be aware of this, but there is a Jewish community in Iran, and the constitution of Iran protects the Jewish community in Iran. But in my mind, my biblical worldview, I see that as the, the foundation of a hostage crisis for over 10,000 Jews that live within the borders of what we know today as we knew as Persia, which is now Iran. And most people aren't aware that under the rule of the second Shah, when we had the Iran hostage crisis, and we had all the issues in the 70s, that many of the Iranian Jews left and came to America or Eastern Europe. As a matter of fact, a friend of mine, Rabbi Kosh Carman, out of Atlanta, was a rabbi, a predominant, one of the chief rabbis of Iran, who brought many of the exiles out of Iran when they began to turn at the fall of the Shah into a nation that embraced violence. The whole caliphate, the advancement of jihad, people also don't realize that the name Hamas in Hebrew means violence.

So there are many subtle aspects of this. A very important thing to note about my earlier comment about Genesis 12 and 3 is that no empire in the history of the world who has ever stood against Israel exists today as an empire. The last one of the fall was the British Empire. And when they made their back door deal with the Arabs, while they were helping Israel become a nation, they had divided loyalties, and we watched the impact of God on the destruction of the British Empire. I actually live in a country that is independent, just celebrated our 43rd independence from the British Empire. So no empire that's ever stood against Israel stands today as an empire. Not the Ottoman, not the Turks, not the Egyptians, not the Romans, not the British. No empire that has ever stood against Israel exists today.

So you were talking earlier about the election and the people should vote. And I will tell you that the top of my list of who to vote for is somebody that has a pro-Israel stance, not rhetoric, but actually will come alongside of Israel and stand as a nation because the salvation of this nation rests, and of all nations around the world, rests on the faith of Israel. So goes Israel.

So goes the world. And the man has so blatantly introduced what Haman tried to do so many thousands of years ago, and there's the debate now, and I was really struck by how the United States, some people in the United States in official capacity were trying to urge restraint on Israel. And they sent over 180 missiles.

Well, what does that look like? You know, when you're attacked by 100, just because their missiles fail doesn't mean that Israel's missiles have to fail too. And I'm really perplexed because if somebody sent 180 missiles to the United States of America, would we show restraint?

What would we do? And I don't think we're in a position to tell Israel how to defend its nation. No, and God spoke in his word that never again would Israel be divided. Once he reunited Judah and Israel, he proclaimed that never again will the land be divided. So this two-state solution is anti-biblical. It's anti-God. And what's happened in the church, Peter, is to me the most troubling aspect of this.

Politics is politics. But the church has a deep obligation to go back to the beginning, to the foundation, understanding that there was no New Testament at the time of Jesus, understand that the rule and reign of Jesus will come out of Jerusalem. This is where everything will happen in the millennial reign of Jesus. He returns to redeem Israel. He fights them. As we read in Isaiah, I saw a man whose garments were stained with blood. I asked him what the meaning of this was, and he said, I had to fight them by myself.

There was no one to help me. And I redeemed them with my outstretched right hand. So Jesus is going to save the leadership of Israel, the very same ones that Jesus spoke to in Matthew 23, 37-39. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who scale in the prophets and reject the one sent to you, while the mother hand longs to gather her chicks, how I long to gather you back to me, but you are not willing. Jerusalem, you will not see me again until you, the Jew, cries out, Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. You start annihilating the Jewish people.

Who's going to call for Jesus' return? According to the text of Scripture, according to Jesus' own words. Well, this is where we are as a country. We're divided on this, and we've got people, we have campuses and schools, education and so forth, and they're not even trying to hide it anymore. What you're seeing unfold with this missile attack and now what Israel is prepared to do, I don't know what they're prepared to do, but I'm sure it will be significant. Where is this in line with, for example, Ezekiel? Well, Ezekiel 38 and 39 talks about a confederacy of nations.

The Gog of Magog, many thought that would be Putin. Well, hang on. Hold on, I just heard our music. I'm going to a break.

I wasn't watching the clock very well. We're talking with Dr. Rabbi Eric Walker, who's helping us see biblically what we're seeing unfold right now in real time, and understand how did we get here? What's next? Where are we going?

What does the Bible say? This is Truth Talk Live. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger, glad to have you with us. Truth Talk Live 866-348-7884, PeterRosenberger.com, R-O-S-E-N-B-E-R-G-E-R. It's Irish.

No, it's not Irish. PeterRosenberger.com, and I'd love to hear from you. I'm talking with my longtime friend, Dr. Rabbi Eric Walker, who is bringing us a lengthy understanding. He has been studying this for a lifetime, and seeing how biblical prophecy and Scriptures are coming alive right now on the headlines. And we're talking about what's happening with Israel and the attack from Iran, Israel's response, Israel's preservation, why spiritually we are here.

What happened? How did we get here? And we were just getting ready to get into Ezekiel 37, 38, what he sees happening, and it's probably more than just that. Last segment here. Go ahead, take it, Eric. Where's your head space with this?

What are you thinking? Well, we're looking at the book of Ezekiel, and there's names that describe in Ezekiel 38, 7 to 14, Gog and Magog. And this is, what we're seeing now is setting the stage for the campaign of Armageddon. Now, what's difficult to do is to try to fit into the narrative all the pieces, because we know Russia, China, and Iran are collaborating with North Korea. North Korea is mentioned, but Libya, Ethiopia, Russia, Turkey, Iran are all referred to in this campaign of Armageddon.

And the reason I call it a campaign is because it's not a single battle. As a matter of fact, the best picture I can give you that in World War II, we used London and England as the staging area for our airplanes and for our troops. The same way the Valley of Megiddo in Israel, which is a large expanse, it's one of the largest expanses surrounded by mountains, is where people think the battle is going to be fought, but that's actually going to be the staging area, because the battles take place in the hills outside of Jerusalem and the hills leading up. So we see Lebanon. Well, Lebanon is not mentioned in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

They're not mentioned in Psalm 83. So we have two great battles in the Bible. The Psalm 83 war, which many think was fulfilled in the young before the six-day war, and then we have the upcoming campaign of Armageddon. So I phrase this as setting the stage for Armageddon. Are we approaching Armageddon?

Yes, we are. Once this, you know, they call it the volcanoes in the Pacific, the Ring of Fire, but we also have a Ring of Fire surrounding Israel. And ultimately, the Muslims, nations of which there's now 55 contiguous Muslim nations surrounding Israel, they will coalesce. Right now we have Jordan, who has opened up their airspace to Israel to allow for Israeli jets to fly over Elam. Which, by the way, that is not a small thing, is it, that Jordan is allowing that?

No, it's absolutely huge. Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, even Saudi Arabia and Egypt have shown themselves to be more leaning towards Israel. And this is not as clear-cut as many who are out there teaching prophecy would say, oh, this is definitely this, this is definitely that. I can't say with certainty. What I can say with certainty is all these things were foretold by Jesus. He gave us the end-time science. Wars and rumors of wars. The great falling away. Men would become lovers of themselves.

I call that homosexuality, is what my interpretation of that is. But we know that these are all end-time science. Now what's interesting, Peter, is that it was 2,000 years from Adam to Noah. It was 2,000 years from Noah to Jesus. It's been 2,024 years since Jesus, since Jesus' birth, in 2024. So we're just a couple of years into this next 2,000 years. So we've had three periods of 2,000 years prior to today. If we look at creation, it was six days. So if you look in Timothy, it says a day is like 1,000 years to the Lord, 1,000 years like a day.

It really is kind of random, unless you tie it back to Genesis and creation. So if we have these three 2,000-year periods, and we're now in that period that would be leading up to what would be the seventh day or 1,000 years of rest, that would describe the millennial reign of Jesus. Jesus doesn't come back until the campaign of Armageddon happens. So we're looking as these pieces of this chess board are being moved around, alliances are being formed, and these weapons are being raised up against Israel. And they're surrounded on all borders, with the exception of northern Saudi Arabia, northern Egypt. Lebanon is an enemy, Sura is an enemy, Iraq is an enemy, you have Jordan to the east, which has been neutral.

And actually, in some ways, leaning towards and taking a lot of heat from the other nations about opening up their airspace. So if we look prophetically, we see the pieces being moved around the board to set the stage for the campaign of Armageddon. Now, what does that mean? This battle of the armies of the Antichrist coming against Israel, two-thirds of the Jews died. One-third, the remnant, which is a very interesting number because one-third of the Jews died in the Holocaust. God's going to redeem one-third of the Jewish population, the same way he did when 3,000 died on the giving of the law, the Feast of Weeks, which is Pentecost.

The same day as the giving of the Spirit. 3,000 died when Moses came down the mountain, 3,000 were saved when Peter came down the steps. And God is the God of redemption.

He is the Redeemer. So these numbers mean things. So I'm not a numerologist, but I do look at the numbers and these numbers mean something. The rise of the Antichrist will come when somebody comes along whose name in Hebrew adds up to the number 666.

Each one of the Hebrew letters in the Hebrew alphabet, the same as the Arabic alphabet, has a numerical value. So you would have to say, well, is Donald John Trump the Antichrist? Well, you would have to translate his name into Hebrew and then add up the number of his name.

I can tell you it's not 666. But there will be someone, maybe a European Jew, who comes from a mixed background. It's not going to be a Jewish leader that's going to bring peace and prosperity to the world. It's going to be a Gentile, whether or not it's an Arab Gentile, whether or not it's a Christian Gentile, whether or not it's a non-believing Gentile, don't know. We're not given that much information about who the Antichrist will be. This is the spawn of Satan.

This is the seed of the serpent who will rise up and bring us three and a half years of peace and the restoration of Jewish worship, which always translates to temple worship in Jerusalem, and then three and a half years of persecution to take the mark of the beast. Are we at that point? We are not. Are we moving towards that point?

We definitely are. And the seed at which we are accelerating is what is stunning about the events that are taking place right now on this evening of the Jewish New Year, ushering in the year 5785, as we count it from the sixth day of creation, the day of Mass. Well, this is, again, fascinating, and this is why you're my go-to for this. There is so much more, by the way, that he has available. He's got hundreds and hundreds of hours of teaching on this at his YouTube page, Igniting a Nation. Igniting a Nation.

I would highly recommend for you to go out there. He's got it set up by topics and all kinds of things. Plus, your book about prophecy, about Genesis 3.15. Tell me the name of that book again, Eric. It's called 3.15, The Genesis of All Prophecy.

Right, and that's available, too, and that's a great place to start. It's very important for us to educate ourselves on these things of what's going on. We don't want to be caught unawares.

We don't know the time. But we are told to be alert, to be vigilant, and be expectant, and then be good citizens in the place where the Lord has us. Go back to what he said in Jeremiah 29. He said, Look, I put you here. You need to stay here until I'm ready to come and get you, because I know where you are, and I know the plans I have for you.

God knows where we are, and he knows the plans he has for us, but we have responsibilities. And I would encourage you all to get out and vote. I would encourage you to study.

I would encourage you to get this book. And, Eric, thank you, as always, for being a part of the program today. I do appreciate it. We'll have you back on, all right? God bless you, brother. God bless all of your audience, and once again, may they have a sweet and happy New Year. Amen. This is Peter Rosenberger, PeterRosenberger.com. We'll see you next time.

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