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I have in the studio Avi Grimes, my daughter. We decided that we would just jump on this opportunity today. We haven't seen each other very much, and let's go do a podcast together.
Let's go do a radio show. You're going to be dropping in on some of our conversation today, but we do have a question. What's one great thing that's happened in your life in the past week? If you want to call in and give a shout out to the Lord, give a shout out to a friend, if something positive has happened in your life, we want to hear about it. We're going to be talking about a few things that are happening in our lives, and we'd love to hear what God has been doing in your life. Our phone number is 866-768. I'll be back with the phone number in a minute.
I totally forgot the paper. But call in, let us know what God's been doing in your life in the last week. Avi, I'm going to kick it over to you.
Yeah, we were talking about things we could cover and just all over the map. We did a podcast yesterday with one of our pastors at Two Cities Church, Pastor Kyle. It just cracked me up because right before we started rolling, he looked at us and he said, this is the first time we've ever hung out. Let's do it in public. Okay, go. In a little bit, that's how we are today. It's not our first time hanging out, definitely, obviously, since you were my mom.
But let's do this brainstorm in public. But no, I'm excited to be here. I had it really on my heart yesterday. We were talking about biblical womanhood. It is just such an incredibly relevant topic. I just was dumbfounded today, paying attention a little bit more on social media of just what people are grasping at for not just biblical womanhood, but womanhood in general. Is womanhood getting the biggest muscles ever? And is that really what it is to be feminine?
Or is it to be homesteader? I mean, like people really are grasping at this question and have extremely strong opinions. And so I just wanted to kick it over to you. You're the strongest woman I know you're the most consistent woman I know.
And I know I'm a little biased because you're my best friend. You're my mom, all those things. But I wanted to ask you, what do you think biblical womanhood is?
And specifically, where have you seen biblical women in your life? What does that look like for you as you grew up? Again, we covered some of this yesterday, but just wanted to give you a second chance to expound on that. Well, thanks for asking. Oh, there's so many good questions in there. I am going to go back to our call number.
It's 866-348-7884. If there's something good that you've seen in in the last week, then get called in and let us know. So we're just say, ask me one of those questions again, Avi. Yeah. What, um, what biblical women have you had in your life?
Oh, yeah. Later, we'll kick it on to the word where you see biblical women, obviously, in the Bible, and how they've influenced you. But I just want to see who your godly mentor, women have been and what they've done in your life. Yeah, so I'd start with my mom and my grandmother.
Both of those really had a huge impact on me. My grandmother was a, they had a farm family. And so she worked really hard. She had five kids.
My Papa lost his arm in a farming accident when he was like 24. And so I think life was hard for them. But they said it was just hard for everybody. And so that was the normal and she said it was a great life. But I worked really hard and they had a tight family and a community of faith.
And so I always admired that. And then my mom really is just a really neat person, super smart, loves the Lord, loves to study. And I saw she modeled faith for me as did my dad.
But probably she was the first woman who really showed me what it was like to be a biblical woman. And then I had a ton of mentors. I've just been so blessed to have, you know, like dozens of mentors in my life, ladies who are 20 years old or 30 years older. And they've really impacted me. And that's one reason I really have a heart for discipleship and mentorship, because I think we need each other like both directions, generations in both directions.
And so some of those relationships have just really molded me, probably more than I won't say more than anybody. But very impactfully, there was a lady in my 20s in Raleigh, and she just loved the Lord. She was so contagious. And she just was a great communicator, a great Bible teacher. And she just brought several of us in as young women and said, I think you have teaching gifts, I want to build you up, I want to show you how to study and learn and communicate. And you know, I, I think she was just phenomenal. And so she kind of helped me catch that fire for discipleship and for women and for women's studies. And so, and many more since then.
But yeah, absolutely. What was it like to be in your 20s and just have a woman come alongside you and be like, we're going somewhere. And we're, we're not just moving forward as women without a definition, but we're chasing Jesus. What was that like?
It was very inspiring. I remember she was single, and she never married. So she's probably in her 70s early, maybe recently reconnected.
I did. I reconnected with her last year, because I talk about her so much. And I've heard about her since I was a little girl, we really lost touch over the years. And I tracked her down. And we had just the greatest phone conversation for like an hour. But, um, she was just contagious.
And I would go to her house. And, you know, I, you know, we all spent time there, and you go in her room, and her, her bed was covered with books, and she had one little spot that she slept on, and all these books. And so she just was on fire and love Jesus in a way that I had really never seen. Yeah. And she just inspired me to love Jesus. Yeah.
Wow. I love that. And I'm not sure if you'd feel comfortable saying this, but you have definitely been that to so many young women. I mean, now that you're especially running Oasis Ministries, but that has really been out of the overflow of years of just coming alongside women, and challenging them, having the you know, the the flowchart of high challenge, but also high support. I think sometimes women can have a high support of other women, but they don't really have the high challenge. Or there's a high challenge and then low support and women just get discouraged, get so discouraged, and just fall into patterns of shame. And so what do you think it looks like now that you've walked under mentorship, and now that you're a mentor to so many?
What does it look like to have high challenge and high support? And what do you think are our missing pieces in society with that? I think especially as women, we love to empathize and we love to talk and you know, really connect. And it's so easy just to not try to take that relationship to a deeper level and to challenge each other. And so I love just to look at women and see what do I see in her and like, I can call that out. And it all of a sudden, she perks up and she's like, you see that in me, like, let's do it. And so that's a super encouraging way that I see through those relationships to be able to do that. Awesome.
Well, let's come back to that in a second. Yeah, if you want to call in. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. I'm here in the studio with Avi and we're just catching up a little bit talking about biblical womanhood and mentorship and just a variety of things. But if you have a few minutes and want to call into the show today, the number is 866-348-7884. And our question is, what is one thing that's happened in your life in the last week that you'd like to share something good, maybe a God moment or something that you learned?
We'd love to have you call in 866-348-7884. So we left off and we were talking about high support and high challenge. And just kind of how we tend to veer to one of those and you were talking about empathy and how women, we gravitate towards empathy for one another, but maybe lack challenge and just kind of the issues or the holes that brings up in society or in women groups. And so I'd just love to hear your thoughts on that. Well, I just think we're really great at hanging out and that's just so natural for us. It's fun.
It's easy. But I think in the heart of a woman, she wants to be called up. She wants somebody to see her and notice her and think about like, what are you gifted at? What does God put in you that you're passionate about? So I just love to draw those things out and then say, hey, let's work on that. Like, what would that look like? How could we develop that in you?
And so, you know, I just love seeing that. So, yeah, I don't know what that looks like for you or what experiences that you've had with that. Yeah, I think it makes me think of just the nature of feedback and how if it's general and unspecific, it really doesn't go. Not very helpful. It's not very helpful.
Even I think of it in terms of negative feedback, but also positive feedback. If you're just like, wow, you are just so mean. People are like, wow, I don't really know what to do with that.
Like you in general. Yeah, it's just it's unspecific. It has no action steps, but also women were great at encouraging one another, which is such a strength. Like it is God given and unique to women. Of course, men can be incredible encouragers, too. But women, it just comes so naturally.
But a lot of the time it can just stay shallow. And I think the more specific we can get with our encouragement to other women and to our brothers in Christ and just call out attributes that they're walking in. And just if there's anything we're celebrating, stopping and taking a moment and what you celebrate, you replicate. And, yeah, just calling out those those moments or attributes and calling people up in that and being like, oh, Katie, whenever you spoke up in community group, you said this, this and this. And that reflects I see the heart that you have for missions.
I see the heart that you have to push back the spirit of gossip. And I want you to walk in that and I want you to lead women. You know, that's totally different than like, girl, your shoes are so cute.
And again, there's places for both of that. But I just want women to be stronger with their gift of encouragement and to confidently walk and calling one another up. And one of the questions I found fascinating from our pastor yesterday, he's like, why? Why does it feel like such a stiff headwind when I walk into a sermon about women? Because men are like, yes, call me up and bring it on. And when he calls them out, they're like, oh, you're right.
And everyone laughs. And then when you call out a woman, I mean, pin drop, silence. Yeah. And I think it's because, A, she's experienced so much shame from culture that she's she's tired of being called out. But B, she's never had anyone lovingly call her directly up and been like, man, I'm going to give you high challenge, but I'm also going to give you high support.
And I just think of the women who have had the biggest impact on my life and they have been phenomenally high support, but also high challenge. And they've looked my sin in the face and been like, Avi, you need to work on this. Yeah. Like, how dare you tell me that? I'm a princess. It makes me think of you told me the story of just kind of early on within your marriage with dad that he would like call things out and you'd be like, you can't do that. You can't say that.
My daddy never said that to me. What was that like for you experiencing like challenge for the first time in that way? Oh, yeah. Well, it was it was humbling because, you know, I did marriage will show you how selfish you are. And so I think you can skate along with it for a long time.
But when you live in and you've lived in YWAM with lots of people in the same space and, you know, whatever is inside is going to come out in that tight little room. But it was humbling. But it was like it made me grow.
I needed that challenge to to be less selfish and to be more giving and more forgiving and all those things. I think we actually have a caller. We've got Mike from Dayton, Ohio. Mike, welcome to welcome to the show. Well, thank you. I love the camaraderie you guys have. It's just awesome. I could tell the love for each other is just, you know, it's just awesome. Well, thanks for saying that. There's a lot of love in this room.
I'll give you that. I could tell you love her and she and she loves you. And it's just it's wonderful. And to make the note is my wife loves me and my wife was willing to go with me to a bowling alley and I bowl quite often and just to keep me in check. You know, I said, honey, I need you to come with me because, you know, sometimes there's a lot of guys around and I just get in the wrong attitude and you come along and it would be nice for you to come along to keep me in check. And she has and she's been doing that all this season.
We have a bowling season and and she's been a trooper about it. Well, make a long story short, this guy named Bill and I see a long face on this guy, Bill. And I said, Bill, you OK?
What's going on? He says, oh, my brother's dying. He has a heart attack. They did open surgery.
The doctor said he's not going to make it. I said, oh, Bill, I'm so sorry, man. Can we pray right now? So we prayed right there in the bowling alley together.
I said, Bill, thank you so much. You know, I mean, let me pray with you. Let me hold your hand and pray right now.
And there's other guys around. And I prayed for his brother and he comes back the next week and tells me it's miraculous. Mike, thanks so much for praying.
Thank you. And this guy, he says, my brother came through and the doctor says it's a miracle. And I know it was your prayer.
And it's thank God. Isn't that awesome? You know, I mean, that is a great story, you know, and I think so often we say I'll pray for you, but we don't pray for them in the moment. And it's so powerful when somebody stops and takes the time to pray for you in that moment.
And then you get to be part of seeing what God's doing and how that he was able to circle back and share that with you. Well, it was really cool. Yeah. You know, Bobby Dilmore is the one that makes me says, you know, let's pray now.
Yeah. I mean, he's the one that got me to, you know, let's pray now. You guys, you know, I mean, let's let's stop and do it now. You know, and I encourage other other believers to, you know, just be bold enough to, you know, to stop and and witness to people stop and pray now. You know, I mean, and then my wife's a trooper for coming along with me to say that is and I wouldn't have had the boldness if she wasn't around, you know, because she is really a godly woman and she is I am so grateful to have her in my life. You know, I mean, well, thank you.
Yeah, she sounds amazing. That actually might take us into our next topic about how the woman comes alongside the man to strengthen him. And so thank you for transitioning us to our next topic. Mike, I hope you have a great rest of your day. Thanks for calling. If you want to call in and share. Story with us.
The number is 866-348-7884. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Truth Talk. Our question for today is what's something good that's happened in your life the last week or so, something that maybe you've seen God work in a certain way. But we're going to circle back to our conversation about all kinds of things. I think we left off hearing from Mike about his woman supporting him at the bowling alley and him praying for a guy. And the man got healed and he was just super excited to share that with us.
So thank you, Mike, for your story. He also said that he his wife had been going with him to the bowling alley just to to give him strength to make the right decisions. And he said, I probably would not have prayed for that man if my wife hadn't been there. And so in the context we've been talking this week and last week, we had a podcast and a show last week with Rebecca Breeding talking about biblical womanhood and just the role that women play. You know, there's so much that were similar and there are a few things that we just do that are unique to women. But when we look at Eve, Adam named Eve and the name her name means life. She's the giver of life. And, you know, I just wonder what it would be like if we walked into every situation, every relationship bringing life.
You know, what would that transform and the people around us and in our ministries and our homes, our relationship. So I was just thinking about that. And, you know, he apparently, you know, she came alongside of him and she she brings life and she brings light. Eve also brings light and warmth.
And we were talking yesterday. It's interesting. The rabbis teach when the Sabbath starts, they light the candles and the mom lights the candles because the rabbi says the mom is the giver of life, the bringer of light and the bringer of warmth.
And, you know, I just love that. I'm like, well, what if what if I was a woman who brought light and life and warmth to the people around me? And so, you know, we were also talking during the break about some of our favorite women in scripture. You know, we just read the Bible. There are men and women so impactful in Jesus's ministry, Paul's ministry. God's used broken people throughout from the beginning.
The first people were broken right out of the gate. But he still just calls us into his heart and his love for the world. And maybe what's one of your favorite women in the Bible?
Yeah, I to circle back real quick on what you had mentioned about Eve. I just I love that the bringer of life and of light. I had a friend recently and his wife left town for like four days and he was home alone and he was like, and suddenly my house ceased or my home ceased to be home and it was a house.
And then he was like in four days later, it was a home. But it is so true of just the unique ability that women have to bring vibrancy and beauty and just to make a house a home. And again, not that men who are single or widowers or anything that can't have that, but it is just unique ability that women hold and something to lean into.
And I live with a couple girls right now and it's just so fun. They're always bringing flowers home and it sounds so frilly, but they do have a unique ability to just ask deep questions and to bring life and to bring light. So I love that about Eve. And one of my favorite women in the Bible has got it. It's got to be Mary, the mother of Jesus. I mean, we have the woman at the well, we have so many incredible women, but Mary, the mother of Jesus, just looking in the early chapters of Luke in her heart posture towards the angel of the Lord who comes to her and calls upon her as a young Jewish woman who is going to be completely rejected by the people around her for being a virgin who is pregnant. She's going to be like, yeah, I'm a virgin, but I'm pregnant.
Don't ask questions. The amount of scrutiny, I mean, she could have literally been stoned. She could have been killed on the spot by her family. And that is just such a powerful message in the early chapters of Luke. She just praises God for who he is. She trusts him and she says, behold, your servant is here to serve you. And then she said, may it be as you have said, kind of like your will, I will do whatever your life, Lord. Like my womb is not my womb. My time is not my time.
My plan is definitely not my plan. And her reputation was completely on the altar. And if women are obsessed with anything, it's their reputation. And so Jesus says, like, Mary, your reputation and your character are going to get totally skewed. And she says, here I am, Lord, I'm yours. And just the power of that statement has always struck me of just being such an all in spirit.
What about you? What are the who are the women that stick out to you in the biblical narrative? Well, I have so many favorites. The Samaritan woman at the well. I love her because she's not named and I think she represents so many women. So I think she was intentionally unnamed because she could be any of us. And she is there at the well in the middle of the day in the heat because she was on the outside. She had been rejected by through five marriages.
And, you know, there's a lot a lot of different takes on that. Either she was an immoral woman, as has been taught so long, or she was barren and been rejected by five husbands. But either way, you know, she's there alone. And I think alone says so much about her. And Jesus goes out of her way to meet her and to peel back her identity and to reveal his identity. You know, other than John the Baptist, she becomes the first evangelist in the book of John and least likely Samaritan woman. But she just leaves. She leaves her water jar after he says, I am he.
I am the Messiah. I am God is basically what he unveiled to her. And that encounter changed everything. And so I think when I think about her life and that encounter that an encounter with Jesus should radically alter how we see ourselves and how we see ourselves in his kingdom. And I just love I love her story.
So there are several others, but she's probably one of my favorites. Yeah, I wanted to circle back to the idea in Genesis, too, when God creates Eve and says that she is a helper that's suitable for him. And that's gotten a lot of interpretation and misinterpretation.
What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, well, in the Western world, definitely, we think of a helper as somebody who's a subservient, like beneath. And, you know, when you study in the Hebrew, the word for helper is as air or as air. And it's a very strong word. It means to come alongside and aid, help or strengthen. And it has the indication that you're bringing strength to someone who lacks strength. And so it's very much a side by side verb noun picture. And then the suitable is that's an awesome, very interesting word in the Hebrew.
I think it's the only place that it's used. So you have to go outside the biblical text to understand the meaning. But in that time, they use that word and it had the connotation of face to face. So this is a woman who faces a man either in ministry or missions or in the home as a wife, as a brother, sister. And she says, I bring something that you don't and I bring a perspective that you need. And there's almost a little bit of a kind confrontation about the as her connect a woman. And, you know, somebody said, I've said, you know, it's that she has a little tinge of the aid on the Enneagram.
If you if you follow the Enneagram, like the challenger. But because she's bringing something to the conversation and a perspective that is needed by the man. And then together, those two words, she's side by side and face to face.
But what she's not is behind or beneath. And so it's a strong invitation to bring the light and the light and the warmth of how God's made you to a relationship. Specifically, that was Adam and Eve in a marriage relationship. But I think when we walk into those relationships, any relationships and we bring that, we're only going to make things better. So just a little more context around those two words and what they mean. I, you know, I definitely think maybe that is one reason when, you know, when our pastor was talking about why do women just bristle because we're not sure what we're going to be told about who we are.
And something in us is like, I think I think I need to be called up to more. I think there's an identity that I'm not really understanding and I want to understand that. So, yeah, that's so good. And I love that the ethic that you're describing of relationship between men and women is of love. And it's of mutual respect is of we are going somewhere together. It's you and me against the problem. It's you and me for the solution.
It's never you against me or me against you. And that's the new that is a radical kingdom ethic that is not found anywhere else. It's definitely not found in modern culture.
It's not going to be found on social media. I had one of my friends. She grew up kind of really hyper on the on.
I'm trying to think of which wing is whatever on the hyper liberal side of things. And she said that when she became a Christian, she asked one of her mentors. She's like, I meant I mean this and no ill will.
What is the point of men? Why? Because she had been so taught that are useless. And I mean, she's a dear friend of mine and loves the Lord. She's like, I have never heard anything good about a man in my life.
Wow. And it just broke my heart. Yeah, it's so Satan.
I'm like that. That is Satan's end goal for us is that men would be fed up with women and vice versa. But we have Jesus who comes and he looks the broken woman in the eyes and just gives her a new purpose.
Found and rooted and grounded in love and same vice versa. So, yeah, that just is so encouraging to me. OK, well, we'll be right back. Today, we're talking about womanhood and women that we admire in the Bible and different things that are happening in our lives. So if you if you want to call in the numbers, eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four.
If there's been something that's happened in the last week in your life and you just want to want to share it, we'd love to have your call. So we we left off talking about Adam and Eve and the other connect idea of being a helper. I remember reading in the past week about somebody was just commenting that, yeah, Adam needed he needed a partner. He was lonely. There was no one like him. But really, he needed her because there was an enemy to fight in the garden.
That's good. And there was land. There was there was a kingdom to work for. And that's the bigger idea, the overarching idea of why we have male and female, that we both together complete the image of God. And we carry that out in a world in the world together. But we bring distinctive things to to the mission of God. And I just I just think that's a beautiful picture that there's a there's a fight to fight. There's a world to work for the flourishing of the people of the world and the lost of the world. And, you know, that looks like so many different things.
But it's a beautiful picture. It makes me think of I often so I worked in college ministry this past year and people would be like, oh, like, you know, college students. The classic conversation of like, do you think I can date this boy who believes in God but isn't really following him? And I'm just trying to rewrite that question and be like, man, is that the right question to ask of like, can I get away with being with this person or is it will this person be a lifelong gospel partner of mine? And I think the challenge that you're you're saying there is what would it look like to pursue gospel partnership? Either either in brother and sister relationships across the body of Christ or marriage of like, do we want to really just settle for like men and women just can get along and we we need each other? Or is it like, man, we we're on a mission and there's an enemy to fight. And when there's a problem, it's me and you against that problem, not just me against you.
Kind of like we had talked about earlier. But I did want to ask you, mom, I know that you've been so inspired by so many women in the Bible and you are a woman of the word. If I know anything about you does that. But you've been inspired by biblical women, godly women in your own life. But you've also I've just seen you be the godliest woman I know and have watched you develop this ministry named Oasis Ministries.
And if anyone how would people get access to that? What is it that Oasis Ministry does? What's on the horizon for you and your ministry? And again, it's about the Lord. It's not about you. I'm so thankful that you've taken the time to partner with the Spirit of Jesus, reaching the women of our city and beyond. But what is God doing in our women and how does Oasis Ministries hoping to fit into that?
Well, thank you for asking. So much of what you said, I'm like, I don't even know who you're talking about. I mean, I do accept and receive what you're saying. But I, I just feel like I'm so weak, but God is so strong. And he calls us into things that we're not qualified for.
We don't have what it takes. And then he just he just infuses us with Holy Spirit power and says, you're going to do this, we're going to do this together. And so a couple of years ago, I started a ministry called Oasis Ministries and it's in our community. But there's a website, Oasis Ministries, NC, like North Carolina dot com. And it's Oasis Ministries, plural, because I really want it to be a place for a lot of people to gather around God's word, to figure out their spiritual gifts, to use their their gifts and abilities for the kingdom of God.
I want to promote other people who are doing the same thing in our city. And so it's been a great place to, you know, promote different Bible studies and things that churches are doing. And that's been a fun thing to be, you know, just kind of outside of my box. And to realize that God is doing lots of things in lots of places through so many different people and churches and denominations. And a lot of partnership, a lot of partnership. We had a conference last year and there were 400 women from 60 churches.
It was incredible. People were trying to squeeze in chairs. They're like, get out of here.
You can't bet. I think we got everybody in. But I just think it says so much about the hunger, the spiritual hunger that I see around me. And just the desire to learn and grow and know the Lord and experience something other than a shallow version of Christianity. And I think that is something that I'm seeing as I do interact with women and interact with them through studies. And through studies and discipleship is just a very shallow understanding of who God is and how they know him and who they are in Christ and their identity in Christ. And how have you seen that play out recently? Oh, recently, probably just people really struggling with their identities and latching on to these other identities that are not the most true thing about them and trying to help them see.
Yeah. You know, a lot of times I'll talk with people and, you know, even in the course of a Bible study, they'll say, you know, I never really realized that Jesus was God. And I've been in church a long time or, you know, pretty profound thing.
I mean, that I'm like, OK, we have we have an emergency situation of Bible literacy and it's not Bible literacy. She's like knowing God and loving him through his word in the spirit. That's the bigger idea around why we gather women around God's word. But also just being called up into their gifts and having a place to to use those. I you know, I've really been doing women's discipleship ministries.
I was thinking the other for 32 years since I was 24. In some context, there's never been a season of my life that I wasn't deeply involved in women's studies or women's discipleship or teaching tracks or, you know, those types of things. And, you know, along tracking, along with my other life, it's just all worked. And it's been probably one of the most beautiful things that God's allowed me to be part of, because I, you know, I, I just I just love seeing the light bulbs. And last last night I was at a study and one of the ladies was sharing that yesterday morning. She was up at four thirty. And for the first time in her life, she was studying through a scripture passage. And God just spoke to her so clearly about something in her life. And she's like, I just had to tell you, like that God spoke to me and I'm going to make this major change in my life because of what God showed me through his word. And I'm like, God is there all the time. He's you know, he is there in his word and he wants to connect with us. So, yeah, next next March, March twenty ninth for any woman out there who's listening to nine women.
Write it down to nine twenty twenty five. We're going to have a conference, our second annual conference, and it'll be in Winston-Salem. We're doing it at a different venue so we can accommodate about a thousand women and we'll have breakout speakers and worship and really looking forward to that. Met with the lady who's co-leading it with me, Mary K. Rath. My heart.
What a woman, Mary K. Rath. We met this morning to really start planning and just dreaming and asking God just to move, just to move in the hearts of the people of our city. So you can if you go to the Web site, OasisMinistriesNC.com, you can pre-register for that and that'll save you a spot. You don't have to pay. You don't it's really you don't even have to show up. But this gives you a spot if you decide you do want to register as soon as registration is open.
And for some context, last year you had to you had to close registry like several days out. There was people five weeks out. I want you to come so bad, but there is not a place. And so the fact that you get to host it at this new venue is just such a blessing. Yeah, it's exciting. And I'm just excited. It's exciting for Winston. It's exciting for the world.
But across time and history, women have not had the privilege of gathering together under the word to be able to like women haven't been able to read, much less run a women's conference for around the Bible to speak openly of the Lord. And so really, this is a unique time in history that we just get to latch on to the opportunities God has given us. And I'm just so proud of you for for fighting forward and seeing all the different opportunities, just jumping on them and at times being like, well, that didn't work. So we're going to try something else. But your heart has just been for the spirit of God to move forward.
And it has never been about advancing Oasis for the sake of Oasis. But the Lord has given you that vehicle and you've been so faithful for it. And I am excited, excited, excited to see what God does with that because it's his heart, his heart has always been to protect women and to commission them as carriers of the gospel. That's what we see the woman at the well, we see it with Mary, we see it with junior, we see it with so many different people.
And to see you continue on that legacy just as right in line with the heart of God. One thing I love about the conference is there, you'll probably be 10 or 12 breakout speakers. And so those are women who are passionate about something that really matters.
Yeah. And so they get an opportunity to stand in front of another group of women and share what they've learned and share, you know, their heart for for parenting or for, you know, whatever that might be. But I just love I mean, when they're asking, they're, they're just so excited to, to have a platform to share their testimonies and so many other things. So I'm looking forward to that. That's one big thing I'm looking forward to. I had a professor recently, I said, How do you get people to remember what you say he's that people never just remember what you say they remember what you're passionate about.
And you'll never forget when a teacher cries in front of you or when they yell when they when they just get fired up. And I saw that Oasis conference last year, so much of these women have just been sitting on this truth that's changed their life and changed their families in so many ways for so many years. And you'd walk in the hallway and one lady, one group is crying and the other group is laughing and there are other people are standing up praying and you're like, Where am I? So it was an incredible experience. So we're excited to have you March 29 2025. That's exciting. Anything else on the horizon to be looking for?
Or what are you doing right now? I know you're doing Bible studies, right? Yeah, we've got several groups. There's three groups in Winston that are doing a revelation study from Jen Wilkin. I'm not part of those.
There are three different leaders that are doing that. And then I've written a discipleship book this past year that has a Bible study with it. I'm going through that with about 40 women. That's been amazing. We're just in the third week and just seeing light bulbs and people come to understand who God is and his great love. So other things on the horizon, but we'll be back another day. Thank you for joining us on Truth Talk and have a great weekend. Another program powered by the Truth Network.
