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866-348-7884. So what does persecuted even mean to you? Is it a prison cell or a torture chamber? The rack? Burned at the stake?
Fed the lions? Well, maybe you think less graphically. Maybe you think persecuted is like being turned down for promotion because you're too religious. Or maybe it's about being the object of slander or gossip. You know, what does that feel like? What does it happen to you? Actually, I'm looking for a testimony.
I always love those. Like, what did that actually happen in your life? 866-348-7884. You may know I'm the Christian car guy, and so as you're probably not surprised to know, I spent a lot of time in the car business. When I came to Winston-Salem, which is where the headquarters for the Truth Network is, many years ago, long before the Truth Network existed, but I knew Stu as he was my rep for a radio station we now own, WSJS. But anyway, I was a baby—well, I came to Christian in 91. I came to that dealership in 1993, and I was on fire, man. I was trying to figure out every way I could just tell people about God. And I was studying the Bible, having so much fun, learning, and so I just thought the natural thing to do at work was to start a Bible study, right? So I started a Bible study, and we got, you know, quite a group of believers there at the dealership at the time. The dealership was flourishing.
It went from—when I came there, it was selling maybe 25 cars a month, and it started selling over a hundred. So, you know, things were looking really good. And the Bible study was so much fun, and it was flourishing, and so we decided to put God's name on our telephone.
When people called in, they got put on hold. We shared our mission statement, which began with, with the help of God, we will become. And we had, you know, it was just a culture.
It became, like, a Christian culture there at the dealership. Well, one day—oh my goodness, I did not see this coming. Not in any way, shape, or form, but there were two owners at the time, and one of them, you know, came and sat down in my office and pretty much said, Robby, you've got to fire the used car manager, who was a good friend of mine and certainly a brother in Christ and all those kind of stuff, and he'd done really well. And I, you know, I'd never—actually, I was president of Bob Neal at the time, and so I hadn't had many times my owner actually told me I had to fire somebody that I had hired that I actually thought well of, and I was like, really? And they were like, yeah, you've got to fire him because, you know, the other owner doesn't care for him.
And, you know, I was—I said, okay, you know. Well, that weekend, that person they wanted me to fire had a heart attack, and he was in the hospital. Like, before I fired him, right? I hadn't fired him yet.
It was like a Friday night afternoon that he told me that. He goes in the hospital on Saturday morning, and, you know, at that point in my life, I had not known many people that had a heart attack, and I was just like freaked out because this guy was a good friend, and I'm supposed to fire him. And so I called a meeting with that owner on Monday, you know, and he came down and I said, guys, I, you know, the man you want me to fire is in the hospital, and there's no way in the world I'm going to do that with him in the hospital. I just can't do it. I said, demote me to be the used car manager, do whatever you want to do, but I cannot, I cannot in good conscience fire this man.
I mean, that's just what I can't do. And so about two hours later, he comes back in my office and he goes, well, I talked to the other owner, and here's what we decided, that if you will stop doing the Bible study at the dealership, if you will take the message off hold that mentions God's name, and if you will not mention God's name at all, especially in a sales meeting, then you don't have to fire that particular individual. And I'll never forget it as long as it's like, man. Because, you know, I thought the idea was to, you know, essentially sell cars, you know, help customers, get great customer satisfaction, all those things were happening, but now I had a new angle that I just did not see coming. And when he, I mean, I did not see it at all. And, you know, I just, I was like, okay, because at that point in time, I just couldn't fire this sales manager. And so, you know, we met, the group that was certainly the Bible study, whatever, and we prayed about it, and we all prayed about it, and we all thought, well, well, this is different. And so we started meeting actually off the premises long before, you know, the dealership actually opened.
We met at the, I think it was called the Piedmont Baptist Association building, used to be not far from where the dealership was. But anyway, and we took the message off hold, and we did everything that they were supposed, that they had asked us to do. And fascinatingly, well, you know, they didn't make me fire that particular sales manager. Well, you know, it wasn't terribly long and, you know, Robbie was gone.
Maybe a year and a half later or something like that. But, and again, you know, the dealership appeared to be, you know, Chrysler sure loved us and Chrysler offered us the dealership in Mocksville as a result of all that. And I, you know, honestly, it was one of the greatest things that ever happened to me was that God opened up that door because that ended up to the dealership in Mocksville, which later ended up with me doing the Christian Car Guys show. In other words, if I look at my life without that happening and me still being stuck at Bob Neal, I mean, what a horrible thing that would have been.
But as it was, I got to experience it. What about you? When did you experience persecution? We need your call, 866-348-7884. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.
Today's question, what does it feel like really in your situation and when have maybe you experienced something that you thought, wow, that's what it feels like to be persecuted for righteousness sake? We would love to, I mean, I would love to hear your story. 866-348-7884 is the number to call in and share. We'll get you right on because all the lines are open. 866-348-7884. So Nick, Nick, my faithful producer, how about you? Have you ever, when you say persecuted for righteousness sake, have you got a story?
Not right now, but give me a minute. I'm going to have to think about it, though. All right, keep thinking, keep thinking. Well, I think it's fascinating that if you look at this idea in Hebrew and in Greek, you find some interesting things. When it was translated from Greek, the word that's like the alo or something like that, I can't pronounce Greek too well, but I do know enough to look at the tenses.
And in this word's case, it's in the perfect tense. And that means that they not only are, and the word persecute both in Greek and in Hebrew has to do with somebody coming after you, actually it being a priority. And so this person's coming after you in the perfect tense. In other words, they were always coming after you and they're now coming after you and they will continue to come after you, again, because to some extent our battle is not against flesh and blood, but spiritual forces in high places. And since they kind of knew that you were destined to be righteous and so they're coming after you. So we got Christie, I'm excited about this.
Christie is in high point. Christie, what does it feel like to be persecuted for you? To me, it's very personal. I'm very strong in my faith. I actually worked at a large business.
I'm not going to mention it because it's very popular. In my emails, I could have a blessed day. In my work area, I had my own office area, but a lot of people would come through that area. And I had a lot of biblical scriptures and stuff on the wall. Anybody would know I was a Christian that walked by.
And that actually ended up costing me my job. There were some people there that were a Christian that said, have a blessed day or blessing. And a supervisor who was supposedly also a Christian, reprimanded me for that and told me that I had to remove that. And I told him, I was like, you understand, you're a Christian, you will have to answer for this one day. So yes, it was very frustrating that, you know, the rights are shipped like that to appease people.
They get their rights protected, but ours are taken away. Wow. So there wasn't a, I mean, you just said have a blessed day?
Have a blessed day. Yes. And that was offensive.
Yes. And I didn't understand that. And come to find out, they had a meeting, a group meeting, and it was brought up in a meeting. And there were some people that defended me and there were others that still found it offensive. So I wish I could have been in that meeting, but I was not invited. It was above my head. But I had no idea that I was defending people just by saying, have a blessed day. How can that be a bad thing?
I don't understand. Yeah, I'm with you. But nonetheless, I can assure you that even though you don't necessarily have to say, people point you out for whatever reason, you have that glow that Christians have and they're offended by your very presence. Yes, and I actually wanted to set up a group meeting at this place.
They had more than one floor and they had empty offices. And I got to one of the supervisors, and I said, I'd like to set up a group that we can meet and pray and talk about things like that. I said, I won't let an interview with work. I want to be an interview with break, you know, because I know that they wouldn't go with that. But they shot it down. I don't even, because they said it was, I think it was based on religion, but yet the group, the people that rented the room that I wanted to have it in were, it was a religious group. I was like, okay.
I guess because they were making money off of it, I don't know, maybe that was the difference. That's wild, isn't it? Absolutely wild. What a story. And so how long ago has that been, Christi, that that happened?
That was about 10 years ago. And I worked with co-workers that I would pray with and having conversations with. I never hid my faith from anybody, my believing. I was always very open about it.
Are you now? Absolutely. Oh, good, good. I'm glad it didn't deter you. So did it turn out to be a good thing that you don't work there anymore?
I think it did. I got kind of comfortable in the job, and it wasn't being challenged. And I had a group of friends that I thought were friends that, you know, I went to lunch with for years. And we actually had a co-worker that came in, a new co-worker that came in that was not a Christian, that her conversations were very sensitive and her lifestyle. But I never said anything out of the way to her. I mean, I respected her.
I never said anything to her, but she broke up that group and they turned their back on me for whatever reason and just started hanging out with this other girl. And I said, this has got to be a God thing because I had done nothing wrong. So I think that God just removed me from that situation.
That's what he does. There's no doubt, no doubt. But clearly it hurts because you don't understand, right?
Right. I love my job and I love the friends that I lost. And I feel to this day, it was very traumatic. And I still think about it to this day, but I'm learning to let go of things and just, I trust in the Lord with whatever comes my way.
I never question because I know he has a plan even though I don't understand it. But yeah, you're right. It is hard. It can be very traumatic. Yeah. Because, you know, you just don't, you're like, what? Like, you know, that's especially when it just says, have a blessed day.
Oh man. Well, thank you, Christi. I am so grateful for your call today and you keep up the great work out there. Keep, keep telling people have a blessed day and keep praying with them.
Absolutely. And I want to encourage anybody else out there that's gone through the same thing. You know, the Lord will provide when you're shining the light, he will put you where you need to be.
Sometimes he puts it in dark places so the light can't shine. So just, I want to encourage others out there to make it gone through the same thing. That's wonderful. That is awesome. Well, thank you for your call. You have a great weekend.
It starts tomorrow. Bye-bye. God bless.
All right. We have our old friend. Mike is in Dayton, Ohio, and Mike, what's it, what does it feel like to be persecuted? Feels awful. It really does. I mean, it just feels rejected and awful. And, but then, then you realize, you know, it's okay.
I mean, you know, God's, God's going to take care of you. My, my, uh, my story is when I was in San Diego, California, and I was doing curved staircases at the time, um, building curved staircases. And I, my, uh, one guy, he moved to Oregon and so I was looking for jobs. And so I got a job doing this, doing curved staircases with this guy and he was, it was high in, I don't know, Mike, we got to go to a break. I hear that music. And so you hold on to that staircase, right? We're, we're going to take the stairs here in a minute. We'll be right back, but we need your call 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. What does it feel like to be persecuted?
We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.
Today's question. What does it feel like, what does it feel like to be persecuted for righteousness sake? 866-348-7884 is a number to call in and share.
You know, does it necessarily got to be burned at the stake or could it be that people just start making fun of you? What does it, what does that feel like for you? We want to take your call 866-348-7884. When we left her here on Mike, he was fixing to take a step up, but it turned out like, well, so you were making curved staircases in California, San Diego. Yes. Is that, is that where you, weren't you in the Navy or something? I was in the Marine Corps and I met my wife out there. Yeah.
A lot of bases in San Diego. Yes. And, um, and I ended up doing curved staircases for a guy that was in a church. Um, he, he had me come out to his job, job, and I helped him do that. And he taught me how to do it. And he moved to Oregon and I ended up looking for jobs and, and was looking, I got this job with this guy and I'm doing curved staircases and, and he comes to me and he says, Mike, um, uh, you're, you're, you're just really too good. All the other guys are just really, um, have animosity against you. And you're, you're getting them done too fast.
What they would do is they pay you piece work when you got a job. And then when you got them, you get them done so fast, then you got paid the same amount, no matter how long it took. And you're, you're showing these other guys up, how, how, how you're, what's going on. And, uh, you're, you're just doing it too good. And, uh, you're doing it too fast and you're making too much money.
And the other guys are really just this Indian you, and it's causing a lot of animosity in our, in our business. And I said, okay. And he says, well, I'm going to put you in the, um, and the, uh, uh, custom and end of, uh, in our business. And so you're going to do the higher end customs, uh, care of staircases. I said, okay, great. I'll, I'll do that. That's fine.
I enjoy doing any of it. And so anyways, I did the high end custom areas and the customers kept coming back to him and then join me and enjoying the, uh, the quality and everything that's gone on. And, uh, and he comes back to me and he says, Mike, you're doing a great job. You're just not sitting in here. Uh, I just don't know how to handle you. You're just really people that work with you and the people that are around you, they just don't like you. And I said, Oh, well, what am I doing wrong?
He says, like, you're just different. You, you, you show up on time. You're, you're, you're, you're just have a smile on your face. You enjoy your job. I am not kidding.
I am not kidding. This is exactly what he said to me. He says, you just don't fit in here. And I says, okay, what are you going to do? And he says, well, I'll let you work here until you find another job. But when you find another job, you let me know and I'll let you go. And then we'll just tell other people that you found another job.
And I said, okay. And I found another job and I got fired because I was too good for the job. I was, I really did. I witnessed the people there and they didn't like it. They would show up early and they were doing some weird things in their office. And, you know, I mean, I don't want to say it on air, but it was, they were bad people. And I felt really, you know, the devil against me there anyways.
And then I'm like, and I never got fired for doing too good of a job. You know what I mean? Oh, yes.
I can assure you. Yeah. I bet you're not the only one out there who have experienced that. But there's lots of folks that awful feeling, right? Yeah. The peer pressure is slow down.
You're making us look bad. The peer pressure is exactly what, you know, I used to do that to my oldest, my middle sister was, which was older than me. You know, she always kept her room clean. She always, you know, helped with the D did everything that my parents said. And I can remember going to her and I'm like, Linda, for goodness sakes, you're making us look bad here. You gotta, you gotta be a slacker somewhere.
You know, I don't care where you, you know, she did her homework, everything. So actually, Mike, I kinda know how your coworkers, but you know, it's not, you're, you're, you're exactly right. And I would hope that, that all of us could see that, but I actually, you know, there's in some ways, you know, it's, it's hard to be around somebody that does things right when you are trying to do things wrong. Right. I mean, they want you to slow down.
They don't want you to not work so hard. But again, we don't do it unto men. We do it unto God. Oh, you're, I love what you, and again, I have a wonderful relationship with my sister to this day. We talked the other day and, and she has always done things right. And I'm always admired her. Unfortunately, there were times though I gave her a hard time because I was like, man, you can't keep this up. Can't you not make your bed one time?
Is that something that's possible? But anyway, I love it, Mike. As always, I didn't, I didn't see it come up. I will tell you this now. And again, if you're out there and you've got a story, we would love, love, love for you to call and we want to hear yours. 866-344. I love hearing the stories. I do too. It's wonderful.
866-348-7884. Well, I got to tell you this one. It always cracked me up. You know, I do the Christian Car Guy Radio Show.
A lot of people know that. And one time I was watching online, these people were commenting back and forth on how horrible it was to live in the Bible Belt. You know, some guy that was in California was commenting against somebody that was in North Carolina. He goes, well, let me tell you how bad it is in North Carolina. It's so bad, we have the Christian Car Guy. No, I think it's hilarious too.
I'll never forget as long as I live. Like, oh man, you have it bad. You know, the guy probably didn't know me from Adam, you know, or whatever. But like, oh my goodness.
But let me tell you that a lot of times that persecution comes from within the church. Oh, it does. And that's saddest of all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know what it is. That one hurts more than any of them.
Wow, it does, doesn't it? Oh, I got a blistering, a blistering email this week. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Don't be, don't be. Because I'm like, okay, God, this is an opportunity here. But I spoke at a wonderful church in Greensboro on Saturday. And then, and to a really super large, unbelievable men's group, they had what they was called a man meal. And it was just a wonderful event on all sorts of levels. But, you know, I got this, like I said, it was a six pager, probably, of telling me all, you know, that I said that was, and here was the main idea that he was trying to, is that you say that you hear from God.
Right? That was, he said, and so you're in disobedience with Scripture, because Scripture is all, you know, all that you should ever need. And clearly, you don't go to the Bible. He's telling me this, and he doesn't know me well, obviously.
And he didn't even sign his name. That was a sad thing. He said, obviously, you know, you don't think the Scripture is the answer to all your problems. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, you know, and all this, if you just read this thing, it was like, oh my goodness, look what this is. And that literally, I was blaspheming. And what I had said was, in praying, this really got to him. I said, when you pray, you got two ears and one mouth, so you need to listen twice as much.
I mean, yeah, you need to listen twice as much as you speak. Because hearing from God is, you know, where it all happens. And I know you personally knowing you, you know, how many times did God told you to help that guy, right, that you ended up witnessing to? Or God tells you, you know, you hear that thing. But I'm going to tell you, you're like me. You hear more when, hopefully you're praying the whole time you're in Scripture. And God's speaking to you, like, through those words, when the light comes on, that's God speaking to you, right? And so I just told the guy, I did.
In my response to him, I said, you know, my heart literally breaks for you, because his sheep hear his voice. And I really think you're missing out on, you know? And I said, I think you'd find me, be a good friend. I'll meet with you anytime, any place. Would love to talk about this. One of, both of us will grow in Christ as a result. And, you know, hopefully you'll meet with me somewhere. I can even maybe find out his name.
But meanwhile, we have Steve. Mike, thank you for calling so much. As always, I love you, my friend, and we will talk soon. All right. All right. We've got Steve is in Coldwater, Ohio, is the one.
I love the name of that town. Steve, you're on Truth Talk Live. Hi, Robbie. How are you? I am wonderful.
I am wonderful. And I love Coldwater, Ohio. Where is it? Yeah, Coldwater is up by Salina. I've called him before as Steve from Mercer County, but I kind of live between those two towns. Oh, well, I hear that.
And then Coldwater. Oh, it's exciting. I, unfortunately, hear the music. And so can you stay on with us through the break? Oh, man, I'll try. Please, please, please.
I'm dying to hear your story. I got green kids around the corner, so I'll try. All right. Thanks, Steve. We'll be right back. With a lot more, we need your call.
866-348-7884. We'll be right back. You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.
What does it feel like to be persecuted, unfortunately? Steve has got his grandkids, and I'm glad he's spending time with them. That's critical. Absolutely. Love grandkids. And the question of today is, what does it feel like to be persecuted?
For righteousness' sake, right? How has that happened to you? When did you experience that in your life? We would love for you to call 866—really love the stories—866-348-7884. So Nick has been loading up his story. And so I know I'm personally anxious to hear. So Nick.
Yes. Nick, what's it feel like to be persecuted for righteousness? It sucks. It felt really bad, especially at a young age, because that's when it happened to me. This was years ago. I was maybe seven or eight or so.
And for the summer, my mom, she would put me in summer programs or summer camps or stuff like that. And there was this one church. And it was an interesting church. I was really the only minority there. And I just went with the flow.
I just went to learn more about God during my summer. And we had good times. But for some reason, I was the only one that was getting in trouble. I never understood why I kept getting in trouble. And I remember the main thing I always got in trouble was for touching someone, like giving them a high five or give them a hug or patting them on the back. I always got in trouble for it. And I never understood why I kept getting in trouble for it. And when I was there, I would get the cold shoulder from the other kids I was there and sometimes even the the grown ups that were there, too, the chaperones, however you want to call it. And so basically they ended up kicking me out of the summer program.
And I was like, I just didn't understand. And they talked to my mom about it. And my mom, she defended me saying, you know, I just didn't see anything wrong with it. There was nothing in the rules saying, oh, you can't touch people. However, there were other kids. They were giving each other high fives. They were hugging and they had close contact.
But I just I would always get in trouble for doing that. And I talked to my grandmother and my grandma. She she she said, you know, it's OK, you know, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, because I spent the summer with her and, you know, we had a great time.
We always went to we went to church, early service on Sundays went with with her. And, you know, that was something that about that was at a young age. I learned about forgiveness and just letting go. And so the next year I went to a another summer program and it was also a Christian based summer program. And I had a lot I had a lot better time there. I had a lot of time there. And there and there there was a little bit more diversity than there was there.
But the rules were not so strict. I didn't feel like it. And it got something that's always been in the back of my mind of just how that worked out. I don't know the full details of it, but that is what happened in my eyes.
Well, I would have gotten kicked out to Nick if it makes you feel better. One of the things I I just absolutely love whenever I, you know, either teach Sunday school or I, you know, and with groups, whatever, if I can give somebody a high five or that kind of thing, like, man, that's going to happen because it's just it's natural. It's it's more than natural. It's uplifting like, man, that's why that's what's supposed to happen. Right.
We would we would play outside games. And then I gave someone a high five. And then one of the counselors yelled at me.
It was like, no touching. And I was like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, that just wasn't the place for me. You know, I I wasn't there.
I just wasn't it wasn't meant for me. And that's fine. I had a great time. And I I still got closer to God the next year at the other summer program that I went to. Right.
Right. And it was an overnight program. So I got to camp out.
So that was that was a lot of fun, too. There's a fascinating thing. And again, if you've got a story, this is your chance. We only got a few minutes left and I want to hear it.
Eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four. So when you really look at this Greek word, Dioco, I think it's pronounced in Greek, that this idea that it's in the perfect tense is telling you that you were persecuted, actually, from the moment you were born again. Why? Because our battle is not against flesh and blood. It's against spiritual forces in high places. And so whether you realized it or not, Nick, those were some demons out there. And they knew, right, that these people had a slant that wasn't a good slant. And they were playing that like a fiddle in their minds and saying, you need to stop that. That's got to, you know, and so they felt like, interestingly, just like the call that we I'm trying to remember the caller, the lady that got so much trouble from saying bless you. Right.
Or or Mike from, you know, doing it right. Those people feel like they're doing the right thing by taking you out. Which is just shows you how well the liar lies. I mean, he comes to steal, kill and destroy.
But most of all, he does that by lying. And it's amazing when you think about that idea that that's in this perfect tense, not only and I love the idea that in Hebrew that this is their priority is to come after you. And their priority is to separate either you from God or to make sure that you don't influence anybody else for God. They're trying to get you to hide.
I used to call this and I love calling it whack a mole. Right. So Satan's out there looking for anybody who's trying to be salt and light. Oh, I saw the light on the horizon. Here comes Satan. He's going to whack a mole. Okay. But as long as you're hiding underneath the covers and you know, your bushel is, I mean, your light's under a bushel basket.
He's fine. But you pull that light out, here he comes whack a mole. Right. Because that glory starts to come out. And so he was, he is, and he is going to be. But the beauty of it is when you think about it is how do you know when you're over the target?
If you're a bombardier, it's when you start getting a lot of flack. Right. And so to my way of thinking, when I got that email, right, and I certainly searched my own heart to say, okay, maybe I needed to be more careful in saying that, you know, I hear from scripture a lot more than I hear from outside things about God. Maybe I meant need to be more careful of that. But overall, it's telling me not that this man, right, but I'm saying Satan was coming after me through this man. And there were other people, undoubtedly, that were coming after you, right? They're coming after you.
And the reason that they're coming after you is because you've come out of your hiding place, and you're saying have a blessed day on your email, or you're saying with the help of God in your phone message, or you're obviously giving glory to God in whatever way you're doing it is totally offensive to the enemy. I mean, he hates you. And he will play in that person's mind, the person that doesn't know Christ, or that person who is listening to the wrong dad, so to speak. And he is going to play that fiddle in any possible way that he can do it again, because what did he want Nick to do? He wanted Nick to hide.
He wanted Nick to be bitter, right? But your grandma, right? God sent a grandma to say, Nick, we got to forgive, right?
Oh, yeah. That's definitely one of the things that she taught me, to forgive and to forget. And she also told me, you know, I might not be everyone's cup of tea.
That just means I wasn't brewed for you. I have never heard that. That's sort of a Hebrews thing. It's right. That's Hebrews in one. I may not be your cup of tea, but that just means I wasn't brewed for you. Oh, that's great.
That's a grandma right there. That's and so fascinating. I like how did you do you recall any part of that process of trying to forgive those counselors, people in authority? Because there you are, seven years old, man, that's hard. Yeah, I mean, like it like I just forget, just forgive and forget. You know, I it's in the past.
I'm in the present looking towards the future. So, you know, it is what it is. And it didn't take me long to just because my grandma, she was like, you know, that's just how if they want to be like that, let them be like that. But that doesn't mean that you have to have that, you know, negativity and keep that just because they try to put that in you.
That doesn't mean that you have to keep it. So and you have discovered since you've worked at Truth Broadcasting that opportunities come along in ministry, right? Where Satan gets a hold of somebody and next thing you know, man, things nothing makes sense.
How did this happen? I was just trying to help. Right. And he gives us those opportunities to forgive and write just what you just said. I may not be.
I'd love that, man. Is your grandmother still with us? She is still with us and she is. She's a light. She's a light. I love her. Yeah, I was spoiled.
I was spoiled by her for sure. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, you know, in God's way that summer it was a lot more helpful being with Grandma than it was with the shenanigans there with no high fives here. Don't you touch another human being. Again, that's a division, you know, anytime somebody starts working on that stuff, you know, that it's absolutely part of that, you know, like, oh my goodness. So obviously there's a sense that we have an opportunity here to obviously battle against it, but also in our own minds when we start to hear that voice saying, you know, your sister is a little bit too good at this, you know, to realize this could be the liar trying us to get in. So think about that. Pray about that this week. I had so much fun always being with you guys. Thanks for listening. Another program powered by the Truth Network.
