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What Would A Socialist Or Islamic America Look Like With Bill Federer

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What Would A Socialist Or Islamic America Look Like With Bill Federer

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In this episode of Truth Talk Live, Stu Epperson sits down with historian Bill Federer for a wide-ranging discussion about socialism, communism, Islam, Sharia law, religious liberty, and the historical forces that have shaped nations and political movements. Using examples from history—including the French Revolution, the rise of communist governments, the history of Islam, and modern authoritarian regimes—Epperson and Federer explore their concerns about government power, redistribution of wealth, freedom of religion, and the future of America's cultural and political institutions. The conversation also examines the relationship between faith and government, the importance of preserving religious freedom, and what Christians can do to remain engaged in their communities and share their faith.

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So, what does. A socialist communist Islamic America look like.

Now, Stu, are you just trying to Rage bait and get people upset and all worked up. No, I'm asking a very simple question, but an important one. We have political parties. We have political candidates in America right now. Who are living and breathing and running for office, and they're running.

Openly, some less openly, some are kind of disguising, but on socialist platforms, communist. Marxist platforms. And by the way, that's not an insult. That's just stating what they believe, their worldview. And there are other candidates running on Islamic.

Platforms And the laws and the ethics calling Islam a religion of peace, and that America needs a little more of that.

So, the question today is: what does that look like? What does America look like if you wake up one day in America? And we have a socialist Islamic president. And we have a majority. In the House and Senate, that are president.

Pro-socialism. Pro. Islam Muhammadism, whatever you want to call it. What would that look like? in America and we're not going to get Hysterical, we're going to get historical.

And when you get historical, you got to talk to a historian. And one of the top historians who's written a bunch of books, more books than. Years of my life, I believe. His name is Bill Federer. He's a historian.

He's written and spoken prolifically on this subject.

So Bill Federer, good to have you on the airwaves, my friend. Thanks for joining us for Truth Talk Live. Stu, great to be with you. And I just set you up nicely with a question. I want you to describe For us, what it looks like.

And I want to set the tone, the context with. These politicians who are socialist politicians With A little Bit of communism, a little bit of Marxism, but they're And then some of these Islamic politicians, they're effectively. doing what politicians are really good at, promising our youth A beautiful future. Promising us everything. I mean, anything you can imagine.

Your healthcare is going to be paid for, your Medicare is going to be paid for. The rich elite corporate Titans are going to be brought down. To the level ground, and you're going to get the money. that they have been hoarding and you're going to have an easier life and you're going to work less, earn more. And get a whole lot more balance in the culture, and it's going to make for a great America.

So. Bill Federer, you're pulling for that, aren't you, sir? Yes, well the left does what's called bait and switch. They promise one thing, deliver another. And now you zoom out and look at history Europe has gone from a Judeo-Christian past with a thousand years of Catholic cathedrals, Protestant Reformation, Jewish neighborhoods.

to a French Revolution, secular socialist LGBTQ present, right, like John Lennon's song Imagine There's No Heaven. And now Europe is entering an Islamic future, with Mohammed being the number one name for newborns And where the Europeans maybe have one child per family, the Muslim man can have four wives. He puts them in different apartments. They go down to the welfare office, say the hus the wife's you know, the wife says the husband's not around and they get welfare checks. And the man visits his wives, the more children they have, the larger the tech scat.

He's living like a prince. With his harem, and it's all paid for at state expense. The typical Muslim woman has five children, so just within a matter of time, they will outpopulate and just vote in Sharia law.

So, lo and behold, the whole gay agenda is simply a transition phase from the Christian past to the Muslim future. I hate to break it to those that are in the gay trans agenda. You're just temporary. That it's just a creative way to cut ties with the Christian past. The tactic is to guilt trip Christians into being more Christian than Christ.

If you're Christian, you'll tolerate this gay stuff. You'll tolerate this stuff. You'll tolerate 72 genders. You'll tolerate anything. Until finally, they tolerate something that has a 1400-year track record of wiping out Christianity in two continents.

Um and so So the the key to it all is Muhammad. And he Basically Started a political party called Islam, but I'll back up. Take a second. Is that all right if I jump into this?

Well, hey, whether it's all right or not, you have, and I'm glad you have. Bill Federer, he's a historian, he's a Christian, he loves his country, and he's giving us a portrait. Today on this show of what an Islamic and a Socialist America looks like. And before you jump in deeper, you're going to give us some background. We're not going hysterical, we're going historical.

Just the facts. Bill Federer, are you saying that Islamic countries that are that are ruled by Sharia law, that are Islamic. Aren't they tolerant and kind to the LGBTQ community? I mean, isn't that where the LGBT community thrives in those countries? No, they kill them.

But these politicians are saying that Islam is a religion of love and that America needs a little more of this stuff. We need diversity. Yeah, well the problem is with the definition.

So the word Islam means submission to the will of Allah. A Muslim is one who has submitted to the will of Allah. And they believe there will be world peace when the whole world submits to the will of Allah.

So to them, world peace means world Islam. When all your enemies have been defeated, there's nobody left to fight. There's peace.

So we think peace is different groups getting along. They think world peace is world Islam. Interesting. A moderate Muslim thinks the world will submit to Allah later, maybe in the distant future, maybe at the end of the world, maybe it's even figurative. They really don't take it serious and just want to live their lives.

The fundamental Muslim thinks it's supposed to submit now. And the fundamental Muslim is just as happy to kill a moderate Muslim as they are to kill an infidel. But Muhammad's the key.

So Muhammad was born in 570 AD. His father dies before he's born. His mother dies when he's six. His grandfather and guardian dies when he's eight. He's orphaned, taken in by an uncle, Abu Talib, who's a merchant, takes Muhammad on camel rights.

goes to different cities, hears about different religions. He hears about the Manichaeism religion that says there's little bits of truth in every religion. He hears about the Zoroastrian religion in Persia. That believes in gins or genies and thinks paradise is filled full of. Pure maidens that will escort you and guide you.

Well, that turns into the Islamic virgins, right? A companion. And then Muhammad hears about the pagan faith. And so in Mecca, there is a square building called the Kaaba that had 360 different pagan gods inside this square building. The most popular was Hubal, the moon god.

Their calendar began with the first sight of the crescent moon over the desert. They had a rock they thought had fallen from the moon. It's a glass impact rock where a meteor hit the hot desert sands, melted into this brown glass, and the pagans kissed this rock, walked around it, bowed to it. Muhammad kissed this rock, and it got incorporated into his belief system. And there's the Jewish faith.

And Muhammad was never able to read the Old Testament because he was illiterate. He could never read and write. But some of the Jewish oral stories got reflected in Islam. And then there's the Christian faith. An Encyclopædia Britannica said the gospel was made known to Mohammed through apocryphal and heretical sources.

So he thought the Trinity was the Father, Mary, and Jesus. And then apocryphal, what's that? The infancy gospel of Thomas, written by someone who knew nothing of Jewish life, several centuries after Jesus. Little Harry Potter-type stories that Jesus spoke from the cradle, made play birds clapped and they flew away, raised the plaintiff from the dead. There's no other place in ancient literature that these stories appear.

Other than this infancy gospel that no scholar takes seriously because it's filled full of so many errors and inconsistencies. But Muhammad heard it, and now those stories are incorporated in Islam. And so Muhammad thinks there's something in his faith for everybody. 610 AD, he goes into Mecca, nobody likes it. And so he's chased out of town in 622 AD.

He goes to a Jewish city called Medina. Jews are nice. They let him in as the first ever Muslim immigrant. He goes into the minority neighborhoods, organizes a following, gets involved in politics. And so now Mohammed's a political leader in addition to being a religious leader.

His followers get chased out of Mecca. They come to Medina.

Now, there's lots of Muslim immigrants coming into Medina, and Muhammad. Plays the victimhood card. He says, We're the victims of Mecca's intolerance, therefore we're justified in attacking their character.

Okay, hold on. What does an Islamic America look like? What does a socialist America look like? Bill Feddere is going to help us out with the other side of that coin when we come back. Don't touch that dial.

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Some important history. You don't want to repeat past mistakes, right?

So, you want to look at history, you want to look at credible historians like the writings of Bill Federer, who has effectively championed the truth for decades. He's been a longtime friend of mine. He's been on the show many times, has his own show, has a little daily feature called the American Minute, taking us back to some of the important spiritual roots of our country. Bill Federer, you finished off with, we can't do the whole 2,000 years of history or. 1500 years, but Bottom line.

Describe an Islamic America for us. We're asking what does an Islamic America look like? What does a socialist America look like? For those of you watching the campaign ads, which are heating up, midterms are here, and then you got the big election for the president coming up in a couple years. No one promises more good stuff, more free stuff.

more welfare stuff than the The folks on the left running as socialists and running as Islamists, saying that, hey, this is peaceful and we need some ethics here. Bill Federer. Quickly finish on what an Islamic America looks like, and then we'll jump to the socialist one. We may have time for a quick call. Go ahead, sir.

Yeah, so um So Muhammad became a religious political military leader, fights in 66 battles, killing 3,000. And then his followers conquered Egypt used to be Christian. North Africa used to be Christian. Conquered Spain, conquered Syria, and then they conquered Jerusalem. And this is where the intersection with socialism comes in.

The Byzantine Greek Orthodox patriarch, he's like the bishop. of Jerusalem brokers a deal. Instead of two choices, convert or die, you get a third choice. You can be a dimmy. a second-class citizen who pays taxes to your new Muslim overlords.

And if you run out of money and cannot pay the taxes, then you get sold into slavery. And so this went into the DNA of Islam. This is how the Somali Muslims in Minnesota have no problem with tax fraud. They have no problem with leering centers and all kinds of fraudulent businesses living off the taxes of the host victim because it's in the DNA of Islam that they can live off the money of the country that they're subduing. It's just like socialism, redistribution of wealth.

And they're allowed, by the way, they're allowed, there's stipulations all throughout the Koran and through Sharia, they're allowed to lie. if it advances Islam.

so they can say to the LGBTQ community, Hey, We're going to love you, and we're going to give you more freedoms and more rights than you've ever had before. They can say that to get elected. And then when they get elected. What happens? Yeah, it's sort of like imagine if a toddler picks up a knife.

You will tell that toddler anything. To get the knife out of him, say, I'll give you some candy. You want some ice cream? Then we'll go to McDonald's. We'll go to the park.

Hey, let's just. And as soon as they put the knife down, it's all bets are off, and you spank them. Right. Yeah. And it's like they will tell you anything so that you give up your power and vote them in.

Once they get in power, boom, all bets are off, they're in control. You saw this when in Iran when you had the the socialists in the 1950s and 60s and 70s, and then they protested against the Shah, and then Jimmy Carter brought in the Ayatollah, and the Ayatollah kills all these young people that were protesting with socialism. Um, but socialism is a redistribution of wealth, and Islam is a redistribution of wealth, so they intersect. And so in socialism, they take the money from the rich, give it to the poor. In Islam, they take the money from the non-Muslims and they give it to the Muslims.

And so they use socialism together.

Now, when Muhammad came into Medina, they had three Jewish clans. Um, he makes a treaty with them, and then later. He gets offended at one of the clans, confiscates their property and chases them out. Then he confiscates the property of a second Jewish clan, confiscates the property of Chase's amount. and then does the third plan and chops off their heads.

But if you would have said in five years there won't be a Jew left, they would have made up with each other. But he played off their political differences. And they had like Trump derangement syndrome. Like, I hate that other clan, and I'm glad that they're gone. And yeah, but now there's only two Jewish clans left.

And it's like, well, they're competition for me, and now there's only one. And so they are happy to side with one political party. We'll side with the Democrats against the Republicans. Or I was down in Sugarland, Texas. They're siding with the Republicans against the Democrats.

They'll pinball off either party because they're their own party. Wow.

So they're advancing their own agenda.

Okay, so this is kind of what was a political leader. Yes, this is what an Islamic America looks like. What does a socialist America look like? Give us another historical. By the way, just get your passport and go visit a communist country.

Go visit an Islamic-controlled country. And you'll get a pretty quick dose of what America would look like if it goes that way. You know, in America where they allow you to go to a mosque if you're a Muslim, they allow you to worship at your mosque if you're a Muslim. But in Islamic-dominated countries, they'll put you in prison for owning a Bible and for going to a church. In fact, they're burning churches down.

The radical Muslims are burning churches down all over Nigeria right now with Christians in them.

So there's a little different perspective on religious liberty that our young people are clueless about.

Now, what happens? What does a socialist America look like, real quick, Bill Feder? We only have a couple minutes left. Yeah, well, we have China, and China supplies cameras to Iran so they can facial identify women that are not wearing burqas, and they can go to their house and arrest them and put them in prison and abuse them and kill them. I was watching videos on the Uyghurs in the Xinyang province of China, sort of the northwest area where all the gas and cotton and cloth and coal come from, but they want to have a train, you know, the China Silk Road across this land.

And the Uyghur, there's 56 minorities in China. And the Xi Jinping president wants to have the Han Chinese be the superior.

So they have a hundred camps. in the Xinyang province, and they have millions of Uyghurs in these reeducation camps with barbed wire fence around them. They inject them with drugs where they can't even remember where they came from, and all they just do is repeat communist propaganda all day long until they get brainwashed. That's what you have to look forward to. It is a totalitarian system that wants to control how you think.

Same as Islam wants to control how you think. And you mix this together with AI and all our technologies that's keeping track of what you think, right? Everything you do with the Internet is keeping track of this. These these AI tools in the hands of a socialist Islamic Totalitarian power, your freedoms, not just your freedom to own a gun and not just your freedom to speak, but your freedom to think. will now be at risk.

That's the problem. Our founders broke away from that, and they said: our rights come from God, the purpose of the government. is to guarantee to you your creator-given rights. But if there is no creator, or if it's an Islamic creator that believes that faithful Muslims are superior to infidels, then your purpose is serving the government and it'll never be satisfied. It always wants more.

Wow.

Okay.

So they're harvesting the organs of the Uyghurs. They're cutting out their organs and showing them on the black.

So the socialism, but they both have shared this common thread. We will say whatever it takes for you to elect us into power. And then get ready. And you can just see what's happened in the ravaged economies of Venezuela, Cuba, the Soviet Union, waiting in long breadlines and Albania and these other Romania countries. And then you've got hundreds of millions dead in the name of socialism, communism, and a whole lot of blood shed in radical Islam, Sharia law.

Thankful for peaceful Muslims, by the way, in America. You go to the root of what they teach, it gets pretty bad. We got a caller B. Jump in real quick, bud. You got about 30 seconds.

Thanks for hanging on. B is on real quick with Bill. Yes, sir. Your comment, your question, real quick. Thank you, Sue.

Bill Medter, thank you so much for your service, our attention, with your knowledge. I know you're coming to Greenville, Ohio. Uh at the end of Yes, I did my best, Bill, to get in that attendance. I was told about you coming. Everybody else said, Bill, you need to come up.

My portion is this. I actually have two, Bill. Number one, why aren't American churches? uh having this information talked. About and inside the American Church, number one.

And then, number two, for those of us who do know what those federal is talking about, what should we do, sir?

Okay, what do we do, Bill? Give us some action steps quickly. What do churches do? What do Christians do? Real quick, sir.

Yeah, the most important thing is to bring people to Christ. The second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do it. And where Islam comes over with Sharia, it's the death penalty to preach the gospel, it's the death penalty to convert. How are you going to carry out the gospel if people are facing the death penalty if they convert? We need to get the churches involved, and we need to pressure the politicians to say don't allow a parallel legal system to take over neighborhoods with Sharia law.

And this is also we need to pray, too. Thank you, sir.

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