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Peter examines how cultural boundaries have shifted over time and argues that the deeper issue is not simply sexuality or politics, but the human heart's desire to define right and wrong on its own terms. He challenges Christians to look beyond the sins of the culture and honestly examine their own hearts, emphasizing the truth of the Gospel, the necessity of grace, and our shared need for a Savior.

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This is the Truth Network. Welcome to Truth Talk Live. All right, let's talk. The truth is, I can't hide it. A daily program powered by the Truth Network.

This is kind of a great thing, and I'll tell you what. Where pop culture, current events, and theology all come together. Speak your mind. And now, here's today's Truth Talk Live host. Welcome to Truth Talk Live.

This is Peter Rosenberger. Glad to be with you today. eight six six thirty four truth eight six six three four eight 7884. If you want to be a part of the program, this is a time for you to call in, share your thoughts. I have something I want to run by you today, but if you've got something else on your mind, we'll try to swerve into that.

to the best of our abilities. But I want to ask you, starting off today, a question. What comes After Normal. What comes after normal?

Now, there's a reason I'm asking this, okay? Let me get some background. years and years and years ago. I heard this From Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh said this.

Homosexuality, once it's normalized The culture would not stop there.

Okay, we got to normalize homosexuality. Then the next fight would be gay marriage. And then after gay marriage, There'll be more and more boundaries that are going to fall, and there's going to be increasing levels of deviant behavior. That will have pressure put on our society to accept.

Now Was he right?

Well, yeah, he was. Because that's exactly what happened. He was no theologian, okay? I mean. I'm not holding him up to be a theologian on this thing, but he did.

possess a a a real uncanny understanding of of human nature. And much of that understanding was grounded in a biblical view of who we are and what happens when human beings begin to resent Limits. And the nature of human beings.

Now, he was not alone in this. The founders of this country understood this. Otherwise, we wouldn't need a system founded on checks and balances. Why do we need checks and balances if we're all basically good people? Why do we need a Saviour?

if we're all basically good people. You you follow?

So he he grew up understanding that concept. and talked about it a lot, and towards the end of his life he also talked very openly about his Christian faith. But He understood that we'd been fighting boundaries since the garden. That's where it started. Adam and Eve lived amid abundance.

Now think about that. They had every thing they needed. They lived in a world They didn't have any suffering, disease, betrayal, fear, decay, or death. And God withheld one thing. One tree.

And that was enough. And then the serpent came along. and essentially said why should God decide? Why should he limit you? Why should he get to determine what is good and what is evil?

I've always, by the way, here's another question, just as a side question. I don't know if you ever thought about this. But why was Eve alone when the servant tempted her? You know, I'm thinking, where was Adam? What did he have to do?

He is there with a woman in perfection Where was he? You know, I mean, he wasn't out at the sports bar. I mean, he wasn't playing video games. Where was he? Just an aside question that sometimes I scratch my head and ask these kinds of things.

But we've been asking We've been answering this question ever since. Why should God decide? Why should He limit Why should he get to determine whether he what it is that we want to do and What's good and what's evil? And Our answer to that question is I'll do what I want to do when I want to do it. And that's the voice of rebellion.

Sexual sin is just one of the clear expressions of it, but it's certainly not the only expression. You know, and over the the course of my lifetime. Homosexuality, for example, just this one particular sin. has moved from taboo That it was mentally ill. I mean, it was in the diagnosis being a mental illness.

um to tolerance to accept it, but they kind of winked at it at first. It was kind of an unknown secret. You just don't talk about it. We kind of laugh at it and wink at it. And then it went to acceptance, and then it went to celebration.

We have a whole month. We have one day to celebrate veterans, but we have a whole month to celebrate Pride Day, Pride stuff. Which is kind of odd. And um and it's befitting a culture that is shaking its fist at God that they will take a month to celebrate pride. But that's a separate issue.

But then came gay marriage. Many of the conservatives who once warned us. about redefining marriage have simply gone Quart. And if you've noticed, sex outside of marriage scarcely raises an eyebrow. Porn has ravaged marriages.

damaged children and it's Yeah. hollowed out countless homes. While becoming little more than background noise in our culture. Men insist that they are women, and we got the whole WNBA, which the whole they. It's mind-numbing that they've met a week ago to determine what a woman is.

They still haven't done it. It's almost like they're waiting for the pink smoke to come out of the conclave that they're having to decide what a woman is. And and You know They're demanding that we not only leave them alone if they're going to pretend like they're women, but that we got to affirm what they say. We gotta we gotta embrace it. We gotta codify it.

We got, you know, from the basketball court to the Supreme Court, defining a woman has somehow become an insurmountable intellectual task. And our heads are going to have to soon be on a swivel. just to keep looking the other way because that's what we've done so much in the church. But God's not looking the other way. His head's not on a swivel.

So what comes next? What's after normal? We've normalized this, we've normalized this, we've normalized this. What comes next? And when a culture decides that desire.

is the final authority. Is there any boundary? It won't eventually attempt to erase? When desire is the final authority, whatever you desire. What do you think?

866-348-0. 7884 86634 truth. you want to weigh into that. What boundary have you watched? our culture erase.

And how should Christians respond? How can we do this with clarity and compassion? Because clarity without compassion. can sometimes become cruelty. But compassion without clarity is not compassion at all.

You're just emoting. and saying, you know, it's okay. God loves you just the way you are, does He? You've heard that from major people who call themselves preachers. And they'll say, God loves you just the way you are.

Well is that true? If so, then why do we need to be changed? If so, why do our hearts need to go from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh? If so, why do we need to? not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our mind.

God loves you just the way you are. We hear this all the time.

Now Before uh I mean, I don't want to just spend the next hour pointing at the sexual revolution, which we can look back at the 60s for this, but it started long before that. It's it's been around for a long time. We've always had this thing of I want to do what I want to do, what I want to do. It is I call it the uh the Varouka salt. You remember her from Willy Wonka, the one the good one, the one with Gene Wilder?

And that little girl says, I want it now, you know, that's kind of thing. We that that encapsulates. human beings. But, you know, we got the political left, we got the. Confused judges.

I don't think they're confused at all, but sometimes people think they are. Corporate America. Uh the entertainment industry But let's look At some other places first. Let's start with the mirror. For us as Christians, not just as in the mirror for us as individuals, too, but.

The church hasn't escaped this confusion. We we've heard how many of you all have heard A clergy member Declare love wins. while preaching grace. without first reckoning with the holiness that makes grace necessary. How many of you heard that?

This is what we're going to talk about. We're going to get into this today because I've been watching this unfold, particularly this thing in Massachusetts and all this stuff with the WNBA, all these things. It's all one big thing. We'll talk about it: 866-34-TRUTH. 866-348-7884.

We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger. Glad to be with you, 866-348-7884-866-34 TRUTH.

Today we're asking what comes after normal. And in the last block I I Referenced Rush Limbaugh's warning years and years and years ago. You may not like Rush Limbaugh, but here he is. I'm just going to tell you what he said. That once the Culture normalizes one forbidden thing, it won't stop there.

Another boundary fall, followed by another Because the deeper issue is not simply sexuality, it's the authority. Who has the authority? We've been fighting this authority since the garden. The serpent's argument was, why should God decide? Why should He limit you?

And the human heart has been answering ever since, I will decide. I will define what is good, I will determine who I am, and no one, including God, may tell me no. And that rebellion certainly appears in the sexual revolution, but it does not belong exclusively to that. It lives in Every, every human heart.

So before Christians point toward the more visible sins in our culture, which sometimes we like to categorize these things, we need to look honestly at the church and then ourselves because the church hasn't escaped this confusion. And as I said in the last block before we went to the break, we hear clergy declare love wins. You've heard that. Love wins. God loves you just the way you are.

We're going to talk about Greece. We're going to talk about Grace. And I remember Larry King asked Joel Osteen once, many years ago, Do you ever talk about sin?

Well, Larry, we like to encourage people. We don't want to go there, we want to be encouragers. Encourage you to what? It's if somebody is heading towards a cliff. And you're trying to stop them saying you're going to die if you go off that cliff.

You're not being a discouraging person. You're trying to save their life. You're warning them of danger. But we want to preach grace without first preaching the need for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What What makes grace necessary? If there's no sin, if we're recategorizing sin, Why do we need grace? What do we what do we need grace for? If there's no judgment. What have we been saved from?

If if God just simply affirms what we feel And we sincerely feel this. Then what are we being saved? Why why was the cross necessary? And then, you know, as we do this, we The church and Christians need to be very careful about pointing at more visible sins around us and not seeing the root problem. And many of us carry scars.

From grievous sins. including sexual sin. We don't want to discuss publicly.

Some of those sins occurred a long time ago?

Some of it may be ongoing.

Some of it became public scandals. Others stay hidden where only God can see them, but He still sees them. Yet it's always easier to discuss someone else's sin. And the moment I turn another person's rebellion into evidence of my own. righteousness I have missed the gospel.

The moment I use your sin to reassure myself of my righteousness. I've missed the gospel. You ever get the feeling sometimes we approach the Ten Commandments as though they were a checklist? No murder today, check. No, no ba no bank robbery today.

Check. No adultery. Check. And we look at the commandments as though keeping a few of them gives us a decent batting average.

Now, for those of you in McDonkin that don't play baseball, Batting average If you uh If you hook hit put the bat on the ball three out of ten times, man, they're going to put you in the Hall of Fame. But that's not the way it is with a holiness walk, is it? And we We look at our batting average and say, Well, you know, I haven't done this. Remember that story that Jesus told about the guy who says, Lord, I thank thee, I'm not like that guy. Yeah, I'm not like that guy.

And then we reach the tenth. Commandment. The tenth commitment. Anyone know what that is? Just off the top of your head.

Raise your hand if you know what that is. Not if you're driving, both hands on the wheel, 10 and 2. Do you know what the Tenth Commandment is?

Now Shelton. Not Covet. And suddenly the courtroom moves inside, doesn't it? Coveting Does it require any public scandal? There doesn't have to be a rest involved with coveting.

May not it be a photograph with it? Sir or a mug shot. It may never ruin your reputation because no one else. even has to know about it. But God knows.

Theft. can begin with coveting. Name a sexual sin. That doesn't start with coveting. Lying, resentment, manipulation, bitterness.

and even murder. can grow out of coveting. Much of what eventually becomes public sin first takes shape in the heartward. No one but God sees it. And any one claiming never to covet, Will soon find himself struggling with another commandment, which is about bearing false witness because you're lying.

And the tenth commandment leaves the outwardly immoral person. And the outwardly respectable person In the exact same place. That's what the Tenth Commandment does. And I love how we got this move out there to put the Ten Commandments in all the schools. And I don't even think most people don't even know what they are.

Why do we even have him there? What do you think? 866-34-TRUTH 866. 3487884. I'm going to say it again: the tenth commandment leaves the outwardly.

immoral person And the outwardly respectable, and I'm doing air quotes with those. Those two two groups, they're in the same place. Guilty. It exposes the same rebellious heart, I will decide. The greedy man says, I want more.

The adulterer says, I deserve to be happy. The addict says, I need this. The sexual revolutionary says, no one's going to tell me who I am.

Now they may sound different, but they're all speaking the same dialect, I mean, different dialects of the same rebellion. We want what we want on our terms, and we don't like being told no. That's why we will never. Ever see a point where people will stop crossing boundaries. They're going to keep pushing it.

New and greater levels of deviance that you've got to accept what I think I am.

So we go back to what we said at the beginning of the program. This isn't going to get better. We got people out there wanting to marry a tree. Wanting to marry a dolphin who think that they they there's an article out there today about this furry thing. Have you f are you familiar with this?

Just when I thought we couldn't get any more nuts, we put a capital K in crazy. And yet they're saying, you've got to accept me. I got time to squeeze in one call before we go to the break here. Jeff in Florida. Jeff?

What are your thoughts? Welcome to the program first, and how are you doing? Second, and then what are your thoughts? I'm doing fine, thank you. My thoughts are in complete alignment with everything you're saying today.

The issue we face as believers is we're called to witness, and I witness to as many people as I can. But I have friends and family and loved ones. who would rather just have a fish fight than to acknowledge that there's a God in heaven. And at some point, we can only go so far with our witness and just and I tell them, you know, if you don't want to believe the Bible is true, That you might be right, but there's plenty of scientific, historical, and archaeological evidence that if you would look into it, you would find it supports the Bible more so than not being a God. And The general response is, well, I don't believe that.

At some point, you just have to leave it to their beliefs. If they don't want to believe it, you can't make them. And we live in a world where Yeah. Good is bad, bad is good, and the people listen to what they want to listen to, and that's where we are. It is indeed, Jeff.

Thank you for the call there. We're up against a hard break here. And I'm going to run, but Jeff, I want you to know how much I appreciate that call. It brings to mind Romans 1:28. Look it up during the break.

I'll talk about it when we come right back. This is Peter Rosenberg. This is Truth Talk Life. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

This is Peter Rosenberger. The number is 866-34-TRUTH-866-348. 7884. If you want to weigh in on this topic or anything else, we're talking about what comes after normal. And and I I referenced Something I heard years and years and years ago from Rush Limbaugh.

And you don't have to agree with Rush.

Sometimes you just, it's important to listen to what other people say.

Okay, is there something to this? And he said, they're never going to stop. If you accept this, they're going to ask for this. Then they're going to keep asking for this. And then and he was in referencing that with gay marriage and so forth.

He said they're going to continue asking for greater levels of deviance. And they're going to push on society to accept it. We went from. Homosexuals coming out of the closet being accepted in the mainstream. Certainly, you know, fornication doesn't even qualify as a sin anymore in our culture.

And then we've gone through all this to normalize these things. And now you had the transgender thing.

Now you got to have to transgender children. We got a whole sports franchise that can't forget what a woman is. We got a Supreme Court justice that can't identify what a woman is. Uh we or won't and let me let's be honest they can they just don't want to And All of this goes to what Jeff talked about in the last block. He's got family members that.

would rather get into a fist fight. Jeff from Florida that just called, and he said they'd rather get into a fist fight than acknowledge God. And it came, the verse that came to mind: Romans 1:8:20, Romans 1:28. Romans 8:28. I know what Romans 8:28.

Romans 1:28. came to mind.

Now, what do you think Paul's saying there? Anybody know? And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved. Mine. to do those things which are not proper.

Do you get the sense? that there is a large swath in our culture. that's been given over to a depraved mind. Do you get the sense of that? It certainly appears that way.

And what is our response as the church? What is our response as individuals? Jeff said he's witnessing to as many people as possible. What is our response to this? How do you speak into this with clarity and compassion?

That that this person You know, it is in danger of the very wrath of God. Giving them over. That is a sobering verse. Paul didn't say that they lack sufficient evidence that God exists. God clearly lays this out in Romans 1.

through the superintendence of the Holy Spirit writing through Paul there. He says they didn't see fit to acknowledge him. And that's not just an intellectual struggle. It's a struggle of authority on my radio program for caregivers that I do, it's on this network. And I'm doing a series on theology on why it's important to study this.

And I'll tell you exactly why, as a caregiver, and I'm talking about somebody, I've taken care of my wife for 40 years. through a medical nightmare. I mean, this thing is mushroomed into something pretty staggering. And I would encourage you also to go out to my Substack and you can see my interview with Johnny Erickson Tata that I just did a week ago. And Johnny and I talk sat down and talked.

And sh she's been a friend for a long time. And we talked about suffering, and we talked about Theology. Because eventually As caregivers, we're going to ask basically three questions. Where's God? Number two.

What kind of good and loving God would allow this? And number three, how long, O Lord? You know, we're going to go into that world. If you ever question God, In your journeys through suffering, through pain, through loss, through caregiving, all these things. You're having a theological question.

I don't wake up every day as a caregiver. And Fritz. And wring my hands, or struggle, or in any way. Be conflicted on how To change a dressing. or how to fight with an insurance company, or how to deal with the doctor.

She said 98 surgeries. 13 different hospitals, well over 100 doctors have treated her. I got that. But I still wake up every day. Needing to remind myself that His mercies are new every morning.

That's a theological question. And this is where we are as human beings. It's always about theology.

So if you get a chance, Caregiver.substack.com. If you don't know what Substack is, it's an online newsletter basically. I have audio. print and video out there. Caregiver.substack.

You can get the app on your phone and it'll push it right to your phone. And I write stuff about this all the time. I've got another post that's going to come out tomorrow morning. I think you're going to really like this. But you can see that video interview with Johnny.

And it is worth your time. I mean she's just an amazing individual. When we acknowledge God, back to Romans 1:28, when we acknowledge God, it means more than admitting that some higher power may exist.

Okay, that that's a that's a cop-out.

Well, there must be a higher power.

Well, duh. You know, I I I live in Montana. I walked out last night and I looked at the stars.

Now we have night out here. I don't have a light pollution. And it's a big sky. They don't call it big sky out here for nothing. And it is a big scar.

And I look up at those stars. And it is staggering. to see it. I remember one time we were out in the forest with my wife, and she's pretty tough. I mean, both legs are gone, but she's still.

she pushes herself pretty hard. And we went out on snowmobiles. We turned them off. We're way back in the forest. and there was no one anywhere near us.

I mean within miles. And she's singing in this snow-covered Beautiful area. And this huge bowl that we're in and peaks all around us. And she just sings, How Great Thou Art. From her broken body.

And now you will laugh because she doesn't wear boots when she goes snowmobiling. She just wears tennis shoes because it's not like her feet are going to get cold. And she's pretty cool with that. But she's singing, How great thou art. When I am an awesome wonder, consider all these things.

And yet we have people that don't want to acknowledge this. And that's the conflict that Jeff described in the last block. And that brings us back to our question again today: what is normal? And we got all these Public sins of the culture to the hidden rebellion of the human heart, and it's easy to condemn sins that don't necessarily. Um tempt us.

But then we come to that tenth commandment, you shall not Covet. And now we're having to deal with some some hard truth. God knows. And this is where we are as a society, where we're saying, okay, I want what I want when I want it. I will decide.

And none of us are immune from this. And when we say what we want on our terms, and we don't like being told no. Because that's what it comes down to. We just don't like being told no. And look at our culture today.

How many of these people want to be told no? And scripture answers with that very word no. And it's a complete sentence, by the way. The word no is a complete sentence. My father used to say, God's got this problem.

He thinks he's God. And that always made me laugh, but there's a great truth behind that. We think we're God. God's pretty sure he is. And that's the difference.

We didn't make ourselves. We don't get to define reality. We don't get to determine what is good or evil. Our desires don't become righteous simply because they are sincere, or we feel sincere about it. I'll never forget that stupid song.

They played it a hundred billion times back in the 70s. Debbie Boone sang it, You Light Up My Life. How can it be wrong when it feels so good? Feels so right, or whatever it feels so right, or it feels so good. I don't know.

Stupid song, but it was a horrendous theology. And so look at look at how many Ways we'll go to escape the truth. We want to rename things. Look at what we've done with the language. We're renaming that.

We can't even c call a woman a woman. We want to redefine things, we want to normalize things, and then we're going to go to the next boundary. Once we've accepted this, we're going to go to the next. There's always going to be another tree that we're told to stay away from. But we should not be smug about this.

If anything, we should grieve. to recognize the nature of what it is we're fighting. we have all stood at that tree. Every one of us has looked at What God has prohibited. And says, Why can't I have that?

We all want something that God said no to. And we all have said in one form or the other. I will decide. That's the bad news. But here's where it changes.

Christ came for adulterers. and liars. Homosexuals, fornicators, murderers, thieves, addicts, hypocrites, and the self-righteous. He came for people whose sins became public scandals. And he came for people who've carried their sins silently for decades.

He came for us. Mike in Dayton, Ohio. Mike? Welcome back to the program. Tell me what's on your mind.

What's on your partially sanctified mind, Mike?

Okay. Hi, I'm not. I'm sanctified, that's about all, but um I love what this uh this uh quarterback from um The San Diego Charger said, I read this today and I loved it. How can you have a bad day? when you know Jesus died for you.

And if you really ponder on that, that is Seven.

So So to So it just humbles you.

So uh that's pretty much a quick question. Or a quick thought, I should go out there to for you and uh everybody else out there. Yeah. How can I have a bad day? Yeah.

when you know that Jesus died for you. Yeah. Well, let me ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a hard question, Mike. You brought this into a conversation.

When's the last time you had a bad day? Um yesterday. All right. Yesterday you knew that Jesus died for you, so what happened? I forgot.

I didn't I didn't put that in perspective.

So why do we forget? I've maintained, by the way, that I have gospel amnesia. I remember one time I was talking to a pastor. And I was urging him To Preach more on the gospel every Sunday. I said, every Sunday needs to be the gospel.

You need to, you know, don't just tell these motivational things or whatever. And he said, Well, I'm pretty comfortable knowing the gospel. And I said, Well, I'm not. I got to hear it every day. You know that song, I Need Thee Every Hour?

Yeah. I put that on my CD on Songs for the Caregivers. You know why I put it there? Because they hadn't read a song, I written a song called I Dead the Every Minute. And I think we forget very easily Because when things are not pressing on us hard.

We just go about our day. And then, when bad things happen, we start having the theological question: well, what happened, God? Why is God mad? Why is God allowing this? And then we have to remember.

Hope He gave his life for us. Why is that not enough? All-sufficient grace for even me, as the hymn writer said. Wonderful grace of Jesus. That's a great hymn.

Mike, thank you so much for the call. I appreciate it. We'll be right back. Um You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

This is Peter Rosenberger. Glad to be with you, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. If you want to be a part of the program, Today we've been asking what comes after normal? And I started off the program with Rush Limbaugh's warning many years ago that once a boundary is removed, the culture will move to the next one. And this is not just a political problem.

But it's a It's it's the human heart. It's who we are. It is the human condition. I will decide. We want to define good and evil for ourselves.

We want our desires to carry moral authority. And when God tells us no, we look for ways to rename it, redefine it. and eventually normalize what God has forbidden. Um let me give you an example. Yesterday, in Florida.

A lady named Angie. Nixon. Do you know who she is? She won the Democratic. nomination to be a Senator For the State of Florida.

Okay. She's who the Democrat party now have picked. To run as their representative, for the Senate seat in Florida. She calls drag shows wholesome. I've taken my children to.

She takes her kids to see drag shows. It's wholesome.

Now There are a lot of words I would use to describe a drag show. wholesome doesn't come to my mind. Does it come to yours? And again, I go back to what Rush said many years ago. New levels of deviance.

are going to be pushed on us as a society. to call them good. to say we've got to accept.

Somebody wants to marry their tree? In their backyard? We got accepted.

Somebody wants to dress up as a cat? and go before city council and be addressed by meow or something, whatever they're they're doing? We're going to have to accept it. if a man wants to put on a a dress and going to the ladies' restroom we got accepted. If a mother says her child is wanting to, her boy is wanting to put on dresses.

Then she takes him to the doctor. We've got to change this boy medically. We see where this is going? It's not stopping any time soon. And it never will.

There will never be an end to this. Sin is an infinite offence against an infinite God. And that's why we're required. The Infinite Saviour. to rescue us from this.

And yet we got pastors out there saying God just loves you just the way you are. Just the way you are. You don't need to change. God loves you just the way you are. Is that true?

I talked about this last week when I said We have pastors out there that say God looks down the corridors of time and sees who's going to pick him. And that's What predestination really means. That's how they work around it. Is that true? God learns something?

He looks down the corridor of time and learns something? God learned something. Is that true? Do you see how the church is almost rendered? impotent because we don't have any clarity on this.

We don't know how to walk into these situations and talk to these people. We don't know how to be a voice of God. forewarning. And this is not for me, this is from our Savior. Be prepared.

They hated him. They're going to hate you. But if the world isn't hating us and mocking us and looking at us with, you know, these backwards people. Then you might want to question your efficacy. And I have a different arena that I'm in because of the people I'm reaching and the world that I'm in because of the suffering and the sick.

And Johnny and I talked about this the other day in our interview. And I really would encourage you to go out and watch this caregiver.substack.com. Just go take a look. And I think you'll find it incredibly meaningful. We're called to be a peculiar people.

People ought to scratch their heads when they look at us. But Johnny was talking about, I said, you know, basically to her, I said, you know, when people see you, they have a theological question in their mind. And she said, absolutely. I want them to have that. I want them to say, wow.

The God that woman serves must be some kind of God. to sustain her in that. I've seen that with my own wife when she walks out on stage. on her prosthetic legs. and saints.

Great is thy faithfulness or one of the hundreds of other songs she's performed over the years. in in front of thousands of people. And people have a theological question in their mind. when they see her. Before she even says anything, before she does it, she's just walking out on stage because they're thinking, how can she go out and do this?

Do people ask that of you and me. Do they look at us and say, What's going on with this? And if they do, Are we prepared to speak to them? They may not agree, in fact In of their own, they won't. I'm never going to agree with God in of myself unless He first.

regenerates me and gives me a heart of flesh. But that doesn't absolve me from speaking it. Nor does it You. To wear the name of Christ is to be bold and proclaim it. But are we trained?

Are we educated? Are we thinking through this? Do we have clarity? Do we even know what we're saying? Do we know how to talk to people?

Do we understand what the problem is? We're not here just to diagnose the disease. And if Christians walk away from any discussion feeling superior to people whose sins are more public, then we have missed this gospel. The law does not leave the outwardly immoral. and the outwardly respectable in two different places.

We're all guilty. We've all stood at the tree. We all wanted something God said no to. Every one of us. in some form or another has said I will decide.

Christ did not come because some people need minor improvement. And others need complete rescue. We all need complete rescue. Are we prepared to say that to people? to a culture that is determined There's a you ever heard of A C D C?

They've got a song out there Highway to Hell And I've seen this over the years where people were at concerts, and they're all. Screaming this out, singing with ACDC screaming, they're on a highway to hell. What? lustily singing it. And I've seen thousands of people.

raising their hands and chanting that out that they're on a highway to hell. What does that do to you? When you get that, that's a pretty good visual. I'm not a good visual, but that's a pretty stark visual. to say this is the world.

They are lustily screaming out. of what they're choosing. That is That is our culture. But we have a Savior. Are we prepared to do that?

speak into that. Are we prepared to say no? to this. And if so, what does that look like? It but how are you preparing for it?

Is your pra is your pastor preaching on this? If not, why not? Are you teaching a Sunday school class? Are you getting involved? at any level.

of any kind. We're not just called to go out there and proselytize people. We're called to preach the gospel and do what? Make disciples.

Well, what is making disciples? Teaching. We gotta teach. Are you prepared to teach? Because we have a culture that wants to scream at the top of their voice.

that they're going on a highway to hell.

Now what are you going to do about it? What am I gonna do about it? I can tell you what this network is doing about it. And that's why I'm grateful for it. Grateful for the opportunity to come out here and just talk to you like this.

To say no. Done. I am not Part of that. Thank God that I'm not part of it not because of anything I've done of my own merits. But let me tell you about a savior that came into this.

We have to stand up. It's not going to stop. It's not going to stop. You've got the this. I mean, look at the political landscape just today.

Just go look at the news today. Not even yesterday. Look at the news today. And see what they're saying. And look at the clergy.

that are standing beside them saying it. And affirming it. I mean It's almost mind-numbing to think how far we have fallen as a society. Did you know that Harvard University was built and established to train seminarians. At one point, there was a plaque on there dedicated to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I think it's covered up somewhere. But look how far we have plummeted. Princeton University, same thing. Look how far we have plummeted. In just such a short time.

To the point we talked about this last week, the governor of Massachusetts signs a bill that allows abortions up to delivery. I mean, might as well just build a statue of Moloch out there in Boston. You're already there I mean, we look back at ancient cultures and think how primitive. And then look at ourselves. There will always be new levels of deviance.

We must stand firm. and share that great news. That there's one who came into this. One who bore the penalty for this, one who lived a righteous life that he imputes to us. And that is Truth Talk Live.

This is Peter Rosenberg. We'll see you next time.

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