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What Song Has God Used to Speak to Your Heart?

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May 19, 2026 6:00 pm

Singing has the power to touch hearts and bring people together, as seen in the biblical account of David writing Psalm 3 while running from his enemies. Worship leaders like Mark Ivey and Robbie Buxman share stories of how music has impacted their lives and helped them connect with God. The conversation highlights the importance of making melody in one's heart and the role of music in worship, with guests discussing how songs can be a source of comfort, joy, and spiritual growth.

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It is 5.19 or May the 19th. And if you live in the world of Dr. Date, the word Carson, that means you're thinking about, I know you were. You were thinking about Ephesians 5.19, weren't you? Like, speak.

to one another. In psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs singing and making melody in your heart. to the Lord. you know, the verse of the day. The question of the day here on Truth Talk Live, and we would love, love, love your insight.

And how you see this is, you know, as obviously songs touch hearts. Like if you've ever done a devotional in a nursing home, and I've done for years and years, right? You start singing how great their art, and that person over there with Alzheimer's hasn't said a word for two years. All of a sudden just breaks out, then sings my soul, right? It's in there, it touches things.

And so, as you think about that, when did God grab you in a song? Or what melody? What a matter of maybe like when did he grab you were singing it and all of a sudden oh I didn't, I never knew that's what, but he just showed you. He sang it to you himself. And maybe you had to pull over on the side of the road, or maybe you broke down in church, or however it worked.

Do you remember that moment? Do you remember that verse? Um, you know, it's something spectacular, Doc. And you, you brought in big guns today for us to help. Yeah, well.

This verse just speaks volumes to me because Ephesians 5:18 says, Be filled with the Spirit.

Okay, so Then comes this next statement. And and I've I think it was um Chuckswindahl. that that made the statement A spirit-filled believer will be a singing believer. And if you find a singing believer, you're going to find somebody that's got the Spirit of God just flowing out of them. They're so excited.

And and then comes the truth. We ought to be singing. These songs in her heart. to the Lord. He loves to hear singing.

God sings himself. And um And so, uh, how does that work? Eight, the number to call in and share, and we want you to. Yeah. Eight six six.

348-7884. Again, we want you to call in and when did that song hit you right? Like, man. 866-348-7884. And we've got Mark Ivey.

from Jacksonville, Florida.

So Mark, you're on Truth Talk Live. Welcome. Hey guys, how are y'all? Excited to hear what you have because I understand you have quite the song. Yeah, you know Pro you know, I I'm a worship pastor.

I serve a large church here in the Jacksonville area. And so our church is Both traditional and contemporary. And so I don't really kind of get into the I don't buy into the style of stuff, but I remember. Um when my dad Was sick and passing away. I remember being in his hospital room and singing that old hymn, I Love You, Lord.

And I lift my voice to worship you. Yeah. Because they're sometimes the hardest thing for us to do is to sing when times are rough. and when things are set. But it's what God calls us to do.

He's an ever-present help in time of trouble. And so in that moment, I just remember. as I'm in the hospital room looking at my father. that this was a perfect time to worship the Lord. And thank God for not only his life, but his influence.

Hmm. I had such a wonderful memory. And as you as you said that, you know, it's funny. I don't know if I've ever told you that story. But Yeah.

I was in a extra I was the pastor of a church that had an extremely heated deacon meeting, if you could possibly imagine such a thing. I can't imagine that. And it was it had been a difficult night. Um for everybody involved, and for whatever reason, you know. You know, they just turned to me and they said, you know, Pastor, could you close this in prayer?

And God hit me between the eyes saying this. I love you, Lord, and I lift my voice to worship you. It's exactly what you're talking about, Mark. And You know, it's a moment that I actually will never, ever, ever forget. Because there in the midst of all the shenanigans, there he was.

And and and that's what we were there to do. And th that music, you know, kind of brought that spirit and I could see what looked like you know, difficult stuff coming together. And it it was like I didn't even think about it until you just mentioned it. It was a perfect example of doing that. But also in that situation with losing your father and I I I certainly have been down that road and and that's painful.

Um Yeah, it's one of those things, you know, I I think oftentimes when we think of praise and we think of worship, I think we think in when when things are going well, And when things just seem to be aligned, and when things seem to be, hey, I'm going to praise I got away, so let's praise the Lord. you know It's in those times of trouble and those times of fear, and it's in those times of worry and those times of anxiousness. I mean, we're in a culture today that's filled with anxiety. It's in those times that we ought to be worshiping the Lord. And you see that all throughout.

You know, the Hembrew Hymn book in Psalms, where David is calling upon the Lord in times of trouble and in times of need, and the Lord is there. He's ever-present. The hymn writer put the song together: Does Jesus Care? And 1 Peter 5, 7, cast your burdens upon the Lord, for he cares for you. But the devil says that's one of God's biggest lies.

And the hymn writer put that song together, When My Soul is Filled with Grief. And and I cry the whole night through. Does he see? Does he care? And then comes that crescendo.

Oh, yes, he cares. I know he cares. He cares for me in that darkest hour, that most painful moment. And then comes those other songs like What a Friend We Have in Jesus. and you begin to cast your burdens upon the Lord.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So as a worship leader. Yeah, as a worship leader, you're picking songs out.

I'm just curious: do you think on Sunday morning when you're leading that worship? that you're putting songs in people's minds that they can be singing on Tuesday. That's certainly the hope. And And I don't wanna overly speak on it or hyper spiritualizing it, but yes, I mean that's the intent. of what we do.

It's not just to put together a great service for the day. But to But to build a monument for them to think back on for the week, because as you know, Join. not every day is a good day. That's right. Not every day there you know, this world is full of worries and full of woes.

And so yeah, and so and when I'm picking songs, a lot of times I will pick a song that has a simple melody. And the reason I do that is because Um They're easier to remember. Uh, you know, what George Jonce, who was the bass singer for the Cathedrals, I know that you remember that man. And he used to say, You knew when a good song was a good song is when the song ended and you were still humming the melody. There you go.

That's how you know it's a good song. And so and so for me, and it's not true 100% of the time. Again, I don't want to hyper spiritualize it, but when we are introducing songs and getting songs into the heart of our people, Um A simple melody. Is really, really helpful. And you can see that, you know, like Chris Tomlin, like How Great Is Our God, those types of songs, those are songs that.

Are now modern-day hymns because they're simple.

Well, Mark, I hate to jump in, but we got to go to a break. Because we got music. We have music. We have Bucksmith. We got Bucksmith and all sorts of people coming.

We need your calls at 866-348-7884. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to True Talk Live. Today is 5.19, which means because we're with Dr. Date the Word, we're thinking about Ephesians 5.19 and of course speaking to one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your hearts.

And when did God Make that melody in your heart. Maybe through it was something happened Sunday morning. Maybe it came through the radio. We don't know, but we would love to hear your. Story 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884.

We still have Mark, and Mark's going to stay on with us, but we got Bucksman is in Dayton, Ohio.

So, Buxman, you're on Truth Talk Live. Great. Dear Robbie and Dr. Carson always the A great blessing when you two are together. I love it when Dr.

Carson has a date the word. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, Robbie, being a busman. BUSK, that means I street perform. I put out a tip jar and I like to make people happy by playing my music on a street corner for free.

I used to play in bands and stuff back in the day. Really? What do you play? I'm a I'm a guitar and a vocalist.

Okay. Did you know Robbie's a guitarist and vocalist? I heard that, Dr. Carson. I heard about that.

So we're going to have to get together at that point. Boot camp, indeed. Yeah, the truth. Thanks. I call him Truth Talk Mike.

We're going to try to hook up and come down and see you guys. But there was this one particular time. that I was playing out in front of the Dayton fireworks on a july fourth weekend. and it attracts a whole bunch of people. and the Dayton Dragons were playing, and it was just a really cool feel.

And I was down there with my three string cigar box guitar playing music. When all of a sudden I started, now this wasn't a spiritual song, but God showed up. I was playing a a well known song called Wagon Wheel By the Old Crow Medicine Show on my three-string cigar box guitar guys.

Well, All of a sudden, this tiny little, very elderly couple walks up. And I am not kidding you, brothers. this little couple just started dancing. like nobody's business. And as the people were passing by this little couple, Probably in their at least their seventies, late seventies, if not eighties.

possibly be on. dancing the old school to the little beat that I had put down. And all of a sudden, you guys. These other couples started dancing right along with us. And by the time I got done with this song, Robbie.

Uh It the whole place was either dancing or watching the dancers. And this little couple out danced some of the younger people. They couldn't keep up with these little folks. And finally, when I ended the song, I obviously I pointed to him and I brought all the attention to him and I said, can we give it up? for our number one dancers, and everybody just erupted in applause.

And it was so good. And the and the deer served, you know, he he tipped his hat to me, and the little lady just bowed to me, and then they just moved along the way, real slow. And I am not kidding you, Dr. Carson and Robbie, it was the most awesome time And I've seen on the street Playing music.

So God does have. A special magic, if you will, to quote C.S. Lewis. About music.

So I say engage in it whenever you can. And that's my story there, Robbie. And I'm sticking to it. Absolutely beautiful.

Well, I have to claim ignorance. I don't know what a three-string. Cigar box guitarist. Do you doc? Yes.

You do know what that is? Yeah. I love you, Doc Carson. But to explain, I mean, I I just know what it is. Yes.

So, what it is, guys, it's an actual cigar box that used to have cigars in it. And my dear friend Bruce here in Dayton, he actually makes them out of s from scratch. He he takes a piece of wood, turns it into the guitar neck. And then he uses the body of the guitar. It was an old cigar box.

And they used to build these Back in the depression era in era, and even earlier when men didn't have money, you know, people didn't have money because they would just grab whatever they could find and turn an instrument out of it. And so this three strings, what what three strings are they? That's an excellent question, my good friend. If you're familiar with dulcimers, they are tuned to an open tuning. It's G, D, G.

Your three strings are right. And then a D, and then an octave G again. That's your open tuning for your standard cigar box three strings tuning.

So you lay your fingers across it, Robbie, and even you can play a guitar.

Well, you're like saying that you couldn't. I knew it's good. But you can play. Uh you you learn the three chords. Because all it takes is to for you to.

Well, if nothing else, I've learned about that. And I hear Mark laughing, like, Mark, you knew what this was too? I did, yeah. You know, of course I grew up I grew up in Georgia, so There was uh there were several guitar Cigar box guitars around my you knew what it was too, Nick. Nick knew what it was.

I feel like I'm just playing ignorant. And here's what I love. Buxman led people to do Ecclesiastes 3:4. Amen, Doc Carson. It was March the 4th.

They were marching 4th. It was a time to dance. It was a time to dance. And dancing is so biblical. Dancing, guys, it was wonderful.

Now, Mark, it wasn't biblical or legal to dance at Liberty, but there were some songs you sang that we wanted to dance to the Lord. I'm telling you. That's right. That's right. You know, Dancing leads to sin is what they told us.

We didn't really believe it. I think that's beautiful. Buxfin, what a story, man. You made my I'm going to be looking up a cigar box. Cigar box.

Great strings cigar box. Robbie. And watch out. If you get bit by that bug, you'll own five of them like I do.

Well, you have an amazing day, my friend. And so, Mark, I know you wanted to, you had another. Um Nugget Forrest, you wanted to share? I'm anxious to hear. Tell us more about that humming.

Cause I think Robbie's got something to tell you about that humming. Yeah. Uh yeah.

Well, no, it was just it th th the the entire idea is If you can, and I used to study for tests this way, by the way, which is kind of weird as a musician. It's like. If I had a hard time memorizing facts, I would put a melody to it to help me memorize it better. Because it was more I was engaging more than my mind, and I was engaging my voice, and I was engaging another sense of the senses. It's the same reason that we do things in worship.

It's like We we don't just um Sing a song, but now we'll put lyrics on a screen or we'll change the lights in the room. What we're doing is we're not manipulating anything, but we're appealing to more than just the one sense and maybe to all five senses. You know, if there was a smell that I could put in the room that would help people worship, I would do it. You know what I mean? And so.

Um But, you know, uh the simplicity of a song by putting a simple melody into it helps people, um Get that deep into their heart and into their mind and into and really into their soul, and that way they can sing it throughout the week. I love your story, Doc. You got to tell us about the tractor home.

Well Um Yeah. Mark, you brought up that thought about the the humming and it reminded me about a time with my dad. He's out plowing a field.

Now we're talking about two, three hundred yards away from their house. But over the sound of the engine. We could hear my dad Whistling, humming the tune to standing on the promises that we had sung on Sunday morning. And my mom, I still remember her. We were there on the front porch, and she said, You know.

I don't understand how sale works. There's that tractor. Yet coming over the sound of the tractor Is your dad humming, standing on the promises?

Now, I look back and I'm just amazed again. He was singing, standing on the promises. It was a humdinger, and he was probably plowing on the promises as well. Mark, Robbie's been waiting to drop flat on you and me. A humdinger.

He had that loaded, ready to fire. We need your calls. 866-348-7884. 866-34TRUTH. We'll be right back.

You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. It is the May the 19th, which makes it 5.19 and Doctor Date the word world. Yeah. And Ephesians 5.19, as we've been talking about this hour.

Speak to one another. In psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord. And it's fascinating if you look at the word psalm in Hebrew, you're going to find some beautiful, amazing things. At the root of the word has to do with singing. But the actual word is bigger than that.

It's bigger than just singing. It it has to do with actually making a melody, but also making that. making that melody in a meter, like a poem, or that kind of thing. And it's fascinating to me, really, really is fascinating. The very first one we know about is Psalm three, which David wrote when he was running from his I mean, not that he didn't write the ones, other ones way before that one, but as far as in the canon of scripture, the first one is in Psalm 3.

And he wrote that. He was singing when he was going through one of the worst things anybody could ever imagine in all the world. He is. at least putting this down as a psalm. Right there in a beautiful thing.

And so maybe you can think of a time in your own life when. Man, all of a sudden God put a song in your heart. when you just did not see that coming because things were just Very, very difficult. But it's fascinating as we talked about all hour that songs Have to do with your heart. And Doc was talking about how, you know, during the time of schoolhouse rock, the kids' school gourds, school.

uh test scores went No, because Mark was mentioning that about singing those songs with those melodies, they become more memorable. And back then, conjunction, junction, what's your function? And all of a sudden everybody's learning how to do English because of uh a little advertisement on during s Saturday morning cartoons.

So Mark, you have this is... A fascinating aspect of why worship is such an integral part of what we do on. A regular basis, not just Sunday morning. Just Sunday morning. Talk to us, Mark.

What are you thinking?

Well, I was just thinking about this the other day.

Well, in my role, I have a small little staff, but I also deal with interns, and I'm trying to help these guys and girls who who want to develop You know, a ministry inside of worship and be a part of it. I'm trying to get them to. Understand the importance of it. It's not just. Obviously, it's not just a job, but there's, you know, there.

God doesn't say things in his word by accident. Like everything. is is is really intentional. And if you'll just think about it, you'll understand it. You know, Hebrews thirteen, fifteen, you know, through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise.

And I think singing there's when we say And God sings over us. I think we need to understand that singing is not Natural. We do it. But it's not natural. It takes effort.

It takes It takes thought. It takes intention. We we we talk to one another. That's natural. But to seem, boy, that means I've got a I gotta I gotta do something a little different here.

And I've gotta, I've gotta almost. Put myself out there in order to do that. Because, as you know, there are people who are really talented at singing, and then there's other people. That's not the gift that God gives them.

However, It doesn't take away the mandate to worship. And so as we sing, What we're really saying is, hey, I'm putting my life, I'm putting my voice, I'm putting my perspective on the altar, and I'm now going to pursue Jesus and I'm going to sing to him because of the effort that it takes in order for me to worship him. And I just think that there's something really special and really powerful. Whether you know how to sing or you don't know how to sing, it's the fact that you sing is what is special.

So powerful in that, and obediently worshiping the Lord. I love that, Mark. Oh, my goodness.

Now, Robbie. Mark at one time was with me at Liberty and and he led singing and oh my goodness, it was so wonderful 'cause 'cause his heart was more on display and he's got great talent, but he h his heart. And uh there were times I was preaching and I'd call him up and I don't know whether it was in North Carolina or Georgia or wherever. I said, Mark, I need you to come and sing for me before I speak in chapel. But but I will tell this Based on what you just said there, that I've learned from you, Mark, because I had to work through some things.

Because there was that time you told me, hey, Dwayne, I want you to sing solo. And I said, you do? You want me to sing solo? And you said, solo, nobody could hear you. I understand that.

I've heard you sing, and I am in complete understanding. But nonetheless, I love his heart. I want to sing from my heart. And so I think you've talked to quite a few of our listeners right now who, like me, It is an effort to sing. I know that the moment I start singing, other people are like, oh, I just wish.

He'd stop. And so I have to sing from my heart. I have to sing the Lord, but it takes effort and that's so good what you just shared. And that childlike.

Well, and I also think it's really true of this, and just think about this. No. God in His Word doesn't say make an on pitch.

Song to the Lord. He says make A joyful song, you know what I mean? And so it's not about the ability, so don't miss this. It's not about your ability, it's always about your heart. Yeah.

And which is what it's what it says in there. Yeah. And if you do that, if you put your worship into that perspective, God's not looking at your ability. Or that he can use it. God's looking at your heart.

Absolutely, and your availability.

So I know you've got a story out there, and yet we've touched something, and so we would love to hear from you. The number to call in and share, 866. Three, four, eight. 7884-866-348-7884. We would love to hear from you.

It's a fascinating thing. I don't know if you knew this, John Eldridge, who wrote the book Wild at Heart and many other amazing books. I once heard him speak on the process that he used to write. And he said, Before I ever begin to write a book, I have to have a song. Mm.

Then I play that song throughout the process of writing but that it's a song. Right. And as he was sharing that, I realized that for years and years and years, And Nick actually knows this. I do my music for the Christian Cargot Show always. Before, and so I have that music playing in my head of what the show is about, and it's critical to.

to my heart. that e as I write sermon and all that, I always have some kind of a Music. That is speaking to me, or God singing over me. I don't know. I love the way you put that, Mark.

It's gorgeous. But I. There's some part of that that speaks to our hearts. Hmm. That really gives me this I don't know what it is.

It's a sense of like I'm on track or I'm not on track.

Well, you look at athletes. Um Athletic events. They have certain songs. And Mark, you know, especially baseball. Yeah.

Uh Steve Green, may all who come behind us find us faithful. And every time Robbie, I would go to put together a sermon, that would be the song I would listen to before I started working on my sermon. And then as I was driving to the campus to preach, That was a song I was listening to. I wanted to have, Lord, I want to be found faithful before you and all who come behind me now, then they'll be living faithful lives. Gotta have those songs, yes.

Um Yeah, and so I think it's beautiful that you had that combination of you and Mark when you were at Liberty. Mark, do you have that now? with your pastor there at the church and were that synchronized somehow? Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because, again, there are things that.

Some pastors are really dialed into the music. That's just their personality type. Other pastors are really um More I I would say more intellectual. And so they're, you know, like, you know, like at our church specifically, you know, we'll take some personality tests. Like, I don't know what all the companies are, but like the Berkman test or whatever else.

And you can kind of see where your leanings are. Like my pastor, my senior pastor, who deeply loves me and cares for me, he's probably a negative on music. Like he just, music does not have. Deep impact into his life.

Now, he respects it, he honors it, he understands it, but it's just like. Give me a good book. I'm not going to sit in my car and listen to a radio. You know what I mean? Or music on the radio.

And so, and so, and that can be challenging. But it's also freeing and he s he tells me this. He goes, Mark, And we meet every week and we talk about the worship service, and we talk about what I'm going to do and what he's preaching on. But he said this to me years ago: he said, Mark, he goes, I'm your pastor, and you can do whatever you want to do in our worship services. I trust you.

I only have one request. And I said, What's that? He goes, Make sure it works. And I thought, I love it.

Well, That's freeing and convicting all in the same breath. Because now I have to make sure that what I pick and what I do and how we operate, I have to make sure that it works. And I don't, and I'm not creating problems for him. And so, and it's been wonderful. It's been absolutely wonderful to see how God has moved.

And again, I said earlier, you know, I've got a service at our church that is more traditional. I've got a service at our church that is far more contemporary. And we have multiple campuses at our church. And so I don't really get into the style of worship argument with people because I don't care how you worship. As your worship pastor, I care that you worship.

And so if we can just. If we can have that mentality with our people, then whether they're singing a Steve Green song like Dwayne said, or standing on the promises, or they're singing Trusting God, I want people to worship the Lord with authenticity and with power. That's beautiful.

Well, we got Mike. He's in Dayton, Ohio. And Mark, if you need to go. Thank you for joining us today. Boy, you have really added to this show.

Beautiful, beautiful.

So thank you, Dwayne. Thank you, Robbie. I really appreciate the time, guys. Same here. God bless.

So, Mike, what say you? True talk live, Mike. Yeah. Well, I was a real quick question. I was hoping Mark would stay on, but that's okay.

You know, uh, has any has it happened to you guys when you wake up in the morning singing a song? Yes, it happened. It was funny because I called me this morning, Mike. And because I led worship on Sunday. I woke up singing in Christ Alone.

I mean, I literally was singing it when I woke up. And it's amazing. You mentioned the same thing this morning. I love it. I'm dying to hear the rest of that, Mike, when we come back, as you can hear the music.

We're going to go to a break. But oh, yes. That, I think, mission accomplished. If God puts that to the point where you wake up to it, because it's a beautiful thing to wake up to, isn't it, Mike? We'll be right back.

You call us with your stories: 866-348-7884. Yeah. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Uh Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today is May the 19th.

Which means from a date the word standpoint, if you've Listen to that on the Truth Network. We hope you enjoy that. It is Ephesians 5:19. Yes. Which is.

Speak to one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart. To the Lord, absolutely beautiful. And I hate we lost Mike somehow. I hope he'll call back because I didn't get to hear what he was going to share about waking up with a song. Does he wake up to?

I want to hear the song. We want to know what it is. 86. We want to know from you. 866.

What is that song? Because, you know, I love to get those melodies just as like you were talking about your dad standing on the promises, man. I start thinking about it. Like 866-348-7884-866-348-7884. And I know.

Rich had called from Troy if he can call back, whatever. You know, we had callers, but they... Unfortunately, we don't know what happened to the phone system, but try again. Yes, please. We'll get it 866-3486-8.

7884 and so we'll all go home safely. Doc, did you wake up with a song this morning, especially you of all people, on 519?

Well, I I woke up with how great thou art. Did you really? I don't know exactly why for this date. But there's just something about that song. And I did hear Chris Tomlin.

This past Sunday when they had the big event there in DC, I was watching it and that was one of his songs was How Great Is Our God. And some of them have taken How Great Thou Art and put with it that praise and worship song and to wake up to a thought of Just say how great Is our God. And when you think about when you consider, and that's how great our art starts, you know, when I consider. and you consider the greatness of God and all the things that He does. Ooh, I just Um I don't want The only time how great the art being sung around me is when I'm in a casket.

Well, you know what happened to me, uh number one, we we used that song in worship on Sunday too. Um In fact, it was the first song we sang. But fascinatingly You heard me talk about the other, a couple weeks ago, God was working on me and the fear of the Lord kind of thing. And I was looking at this. Verse where it talks about God being great and mighty and awesome.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And as I was looking at the word awesome, All of a sudden It started to thunder. And it wasn't a regular thunder. It was a thunder that went on and on and on, like.

You know, it just didn't go boom, it went boom boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you know, like that. And I was describing that at my Bible study Thursday morning. And Harold Dyer, sitting next to me, one of my dear friends, looks at me and he goes, Wait, Robbie, you know that in the song. He said, I hear the rolling thunder. And he recalled.

He heard the rolling thunder. He recalled he was in Talos, New Mexico. Where he said the the Thunder was coming down the mountain and it was rolling down, and it was like ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom. And as he did that, you know, every time I was saying that and how great there are this weekend, I was like, man, I hear the rolling. It's so beautiful.

So we do have Mike back. Thank goodness. Mike, and we need Ridgeback.

So, Mike, what song do you wake up to? We gotta know.

Well, it was a contemporary song by Ann Wilson, I think it is. I looked it up. I hope that's right. And it says, My Jesus, Jesus. I don't know.

Don't ask me to sing it. I'm not that good at singing. Please. We just need a little melody. My Jesus, my Jesus.

Animals.

Something like that. I don't know that it's a contemporary. Yeah, it's a newer song from our church. And I'm you know, it and they're a contemporary song and uh it really hit my heart and I obviously I woke up in the morning singing it. But I wish I knew more of what it was singing.

But it was it was it was more like uh the you know, the words Jesus, yeah, that's the title, My Jesus. Yeah. And Wilson. Are you past the point of where he is your Burton. weighing heavy.

Is it all too much to carry? Let me tell you. Let me tell you about my Jesus. I know how that goes. Yes.

Let me tell you about my Jesus is exactly how I could hear you sing. Yeah, let me tell you. Yeah, let me tell you about my Jesus. It's got a real cool melody to it. Let me tell you about my Jesus, right?

Is that the sound? Yes, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yep. Yeah, I woke up to that the other day, and my wife says, What are you singing?

I said, Well, this a song. She says, Can you stop? Go back to singing it in your heart. Yeah, exactly. And it was on my mind all day that day.

You know, so um. It was really good. I it was yesterday or two days ago that it happened, but you know um Uh yesterday went by so fast. Uh but anyways, it was really good. You know how God just just lays it on your heart and a song like that, and then you just uh You just You just praise God all day with it.

That's awesome, isn't it? And, you know, when we look at. Singing Psalms 40 talks about when we get saved, he puts a new song in our heart. And I think each one of us, as God, not only has other people. singing songs for us to then be able to sing.

If we're in tune to the Lord, He'll give us things to sing to Him. That's only for us to sing.

Now, I don't know, I may be way out there, but I think about the new songs, and every now and then I'll sing something. that and my it I I I'll sing it where my wife can hear it and and she she's like every damn thing goes that's not bad. Uh but it's only Well, I tell you, the lore. You just don't know. You you meet somebody and you might think like You know Nikita Kolov, right?

Yes. And the Russian nightmare. And you've got to. Nailed the devil's worst nightmare. You might have heard him on the radio many times.

You talk about a man that can worship. And because I've been in service like, oh my goodness. And of course, his daughter is a phenomenal Christian artist, by the way, very well known in Nashville. Um Unbelievable. Nikita himself, He will dance like, oh my goodness, you better get ready.

As he will get a bunch of people worshiping. It's something to see. But again, it is just. To some extent, you know, worship is another way that we can grow in the Lord. Mm-hmm.

But Yeah, I can grow in the scriptures. I can grow in prayer. But I can also grow. And really Understanding worship. And I don't know if you know this, Doc, but last year, not this year, but last year, my word of the year was worship.

Mm-hmm. And what God taught me in that, I'll never forget, was You are worshiping with me, not just for me. Right? That you're worshiping. with Jesus To the Father.

You're worshiping with the Holy Spirit to the Father, but you're also worshiping with the Father to Jesus, and you're also worshiping with the Father and Jesus to the Holy Spirit. In other words, this is a joint effort. Yeah. Turn my head around to some extent to say, How fun is this? Because it's just like in the Lord's Brayer: it's our Father.

Our Father. And it's a together thing. Right. And it's not one angel. or seraphim, but the angels singing holy holy Holy, holy.

And I remember the first time that I... connected the him to the scriptures and realizing This is what we're going to be doing in heaven. crying out, Holy, Holy, Holy, worthy as a Lamb So Mike, respond to that. Ah, worthy is the Lamb. Yeah, it's it gives you visions about, you know, when you remember a song and you remember the time that you're singing it.

And then you and then you like there was a couple of songs in boot camp and they came across the radio the other day. And I just remember that time with us worshiping God and getting closer to God because. those songs just brings back memories. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I can almost tell you what the song's for, like Remind Me Who I Am, right?

By Jason Gray. Yeah, like, well, we do a lot on the new name there, and so that idea of Jason Gray's song is Remind Me Who I Am or a Run to the Father is another one that we use out. Yeah, that one was a really good one. Yeah, Run to the Father. Yeah, I love that one too.

And when I hear it on the radio, it just brings back. those thoughts of of of um what I needed to know, how much God loves me. And um, you know, that's awesome. You know. When I was growing up, we uh we sang from the hymnal.

And we did have a c uh kind of a a different type of hymnal that had maybe a little bit uh more upbeat song to it, but everything was pretty much out of a hymnal. And when I uh went into ministry, I ended up in New York City and I'm at a church uh That They sang the hymn. They they sang the psalms. And this guy had a guitar, Tom Harris, and he sang Psalms 25. And started out with verse 1: Unto thee, O Lord, do I lift up my soul?

Unto thee, O Lord, do I lift up my soul? Oh my God, I trust in thee. Let me not be ashamed. Let not my enemies triumph over me. And I never knew that you could take these songs, these hymns, and turn them into psalms.

And I will call upon the Lord and songs like that. And I changed. My approach, here's Ephesians 5:19 telling me, sing these psalms, not just psalms, but psalms. Um And then he sticks in your soul, like Mark said. It's just something about that rhythm sticks in your soul.

And the meter that it was written in, it's absolutely beautiful.

Well, Wow, time goes by fast, doesn't it? This is on date the word.com if people want to read the devotional. Uh on Ephesians 5, 19. Beautiful, beautiful.

Well, I hope that we will all be singing tonight so we can wake up with a song, Mike. Yeah. And with, you know, let me tell you about my Jesus. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks for listening.

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