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And now, here's today's Truth Talk Live host. Have you prayed a prayer. An impossible prayer. The moment you were praying it, you're thinking there is no way this is ever going to happen. But oh God, I need you to do this.
An impossible prayer. And when God answered it, He not only answered it the way you were praying for Him to answer it, but He answered it to the level of. exceedingly abundantly above This very day, I was at a Bible study. We call it Wednesday in the Word. Stu Epperson Jr.
was leading it. We're studying the book of Nehemiah, and I was captivated by the teaching out of chapter 2, how Nehemiah has been praying. He's got a broken heart for the people of Jerusalem, the place of Jerusalem. The walls are broken down. Their lives are in distress.
And he's praying, God, we've got to rebuild the wall. And our king had. Passed the law that you can't rebuild the wall. And so now, guess what? God has placed Nehemiah right beside the king as a cupbearer so that he could at some point ask the king to let him go build this wall.
So he's talking to God, he's praying to God, and then at just this incredible moment, Nehemiah shows up with a broken heart that's revealed on his face. He's got a sad countenance. And this. Ungodly king sees it, asks a question, says Nehemiah, what's going on? Nehemiah gives the answer, I've got a broken heart over my people, the place of Jerusalem, and why shouldn't I have a sad face?
And then the king said, Well, what do you want? And Nehemiah prayed to the God of heaven one more time. He's all right, God, give me clarity. And he asked the king to let him go. And then the king, not only, if you're reading Nehemiah, Nehemiah chapter 2, verse 9, he gave Nehemiah more than what Nehemiah requested.
I want to hear from you. You prayed a prayer. That God did the impossible. He did exceedingly abundantly above. 866-348-7884 is the number to call.
866-348-7884. And I am blessed today to have in the studio with us. Jeff Chetwood, who has prayed some impossible prayers as he works with the International Commission, who have been praying impossible prayers because they want to take the gospel To every person in the world. And listen, we got to pray to take the gospel across the street to our neighbor. But some people are praying, give us the ability to take the gospel to the ends of the world.
And Jeff, you've been praying that, and you're going to tell us a quick report on the International Commission that is, you guys have been praying. That God is opening doors for a multitude of people to be saved. To be able to a number of countries and then We're going to talk to Ely Corruption. Ram Ma. He is from Lebanon.
We have in our studio today a pastor, a shepherd from Lebanon, who is also working with the International Commission, but he is seeing God work in incredible ways. And we're going to hear his story. But we start with you, Jeff. Talk to us about how God, in just the last year, Has been answering prayers and you can't help but say Ephesians 3 20 doing exceedingly abundantly above anything you could ask or think International Commission I have been with for 24 years. And when we started uh I was working in 19 countries in Asia.
out of the 209 countries worldwide. And at that time, I was told that in those 19 countries, we would have 2,000 salvations, and worldwide we would have 200,000. And I thought that was incredible. But there was a vision that we would go into every country every year with the gospel. That's not going into every country, that's going into every country every year.
And as of right now, we have been in 194 of the 209 countries and we're going into three more of those this coming year. But the two thousand in our 19 countries in Asia is now 12.5 million Salvations. And the two hundred thousand worldwide is now 21 million plus salvations, and 30 million have heard. This is beyond my understanding. And the Holy Spirit has saved them one by one by one by one.
And we get to watch them do it. We carry the gospel. We share the gospel morning, noon, and night. And then they learn how, and then they go and they do it over and over and over. And they can do it so much, so well in their own countries and the neighboring countries.
And this is God's plan, His plan. And in Matthew 24:14, He said, I will return when this gospel message has been carried to every nation. That's every tribe and ethnos group. And guess what? I'm pretty sure we're getting real close.
He could come today. There is an urgency to share this gospel because when he comes, time's up. Yes. I'm staggered. When I hear In one year, 21 million Have been saved because people have gone out, worked with nationals.
And it's national to nationals, end to end. And and All over 194 right now. 194.
So we only got 15 more to go. That's right. And the vision is huge. Oh, yeah. And the prayers have been for all of these countries.
And think about that. In those 21 million who were saved, 9.5 million were baptized. 4.5 million went out to share all over the world. Almost 2 million churches were planted. This is God's size.
This is beyond anything I could ever envision and anybody else except God. Answers exceedingly and abundantly.
So now we have a wonderful pastor from Lebanon. I'm going to let you. Tell a little bit more about him, and then we're going to get some Information about what is happening in Lebanon. Yes, Eli Karam is the director of International Commission in Lebanon, and he is a pastor there. He pastors a church, but he also goes and shares the gospel in neighboring countries all over the Middle East.
And I'll let him talk about that. He goes into places that you would say, oh, I don't know about that. You're doing a lot of impossible praying. Oh, yes. Welcome to our show.
Thank you. Thank you. I always. remember the verse when I Decided to learn Spanish, it was difficult for me to. uh to do this mission because someone told me uh a f a a pastor is coming from Miami after six months and he's looking for an interpreter.
Do do you mind to go and uh start learning Spanish in order to do the work? I went and I remember when they asked each one in the class for what purpose your lur your studying or learning Spanish.
Some they said because my fiancé is from Mexico.
Some they said we are going to continue our study in um Spain. When my turn came, The la Professora asked me What is the purpose of Learning Spanish I say I told her that a pastor is coming. I told her I was an assistant pastor in that time. I told her that a pastor is going to come from Miami and he's looking for an interpreter. Guess what happened?
She looked at me. She laughed at me. And all the cla the class laughed with her.
So, but guess what I told her? I memorized a verse: todo lo puedo en cristo que mi fortaleste. I can do all things through Christ. Philippians 4:13. And God answered that prayer.
You learned how to speak Spanish to translate for that pastor so people could be saved. And we're going to hear more of your story right after these announcements. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. I'm Dwayne Carson and I get to be your host today.
And we've got two incredible men of God in the studio. And we're talking about praying impossible prayers. And God then answering those impossible prayers. Doing it in such a way that we can only say he has done exceedingly abundantly above. And we'd love to hear if you've got a story.
866-348-7884. You might also be interested in what's going on with the International Commission. You might have a question for Jeff. We also have a pastor, a leader with the International Commission that He's from Lebanon, and maybe you got a question about Lebanon. We're not talking about Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
We're not talking about Lebanon, Ohio. We're talking about the nation of Lebanon that is in the Middle East, one of the most beautiful places on God's earth, just north of Israel. You may know of a town, a city called Beirut. And for me, as I try to find out about different countries, We think all Middle East countries are m totally Muslim. Lebanon is not totally Muslim.
Pastor, tell us about some things from Lebanon we ought to know about. Actually If you read the Bible, You can see that Lebanon is mentioned in the Bible more than 72 times. And the temple of Salmon was built from the cedars of Lebanon. Cedars of Lebanon. Yes, and also Jesus did his first miracles.
in uh Tigr and Sidon. in the south of Lebanon. Yes. So Lebanon is an old country. But the most important thing that Jesus is reaching.
people is reaching those the unreached people not only in Lebanon, in the whole Middle East and North Africa.
Sometimes we think that um If you go to Lebanon, you can see churches, you can see many Christians. But let me tell you that I am coming from a Christian background. And I've never had a relationship with the Lord Jesus. Being A Christian, that does not mean you have a relationship with the Lord. you need to be born again.
Yes. This what When I heard this, it really shocked me. I asked what does born again mean? They explained to me that When You came to this Life Your parents gave you this body and gave you this life. There is A Lord who loves you and He is willing to give you a different life, an eternal life.
The life that your parents gave to you, one day you will close your eyes. And you will leave this this earth But there is an eternal life No one can give this eternal life except to Jesus because He is the life. Yeah. In Lebanon, you can find many Christians, and I guess in the States, you can find many people that they attend. Churches, they go to church, but if you ask them about eternity, if you ask them about eternal life, they have no answer.
Yeah. We we have those different cards and someone what religion are you? And so are you Hindu, are you Jewish? Are you Buddhist? Are you Muslim?
Are you Christian? And you check Christian. That doesn't mean you're a Christian. Definitely. And just because you live in America or Lebanon.
Sure. that you're a Christian just because you were born maybe in a Christian home, which is awesome. I was born in a Christian home. But I had to be born again.
Now, as you work with Muslims in Lebanon, As you work with, let's just again that quote, Christian, what are you seeing happening there in Lebanon and then the rest of the Middle East? Because I keep getting phenomenal reports that there is a revival taking place in the Middle East. We think about terrorists, but we're right now hearing about lots of people coming to know the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal way.
So enlighten us. Yes, let me tell you that. We say this, it started in the East and it's gonna end in the East. That's good. And one day I I read uh a sentence that I really love it.
Uh the sun always rises in the east.
So we believe that Jesus came. And he's coming again.
So the bride is expecting the second coming of the Messiah. The church is expecting the second coming of Jesus.
So Jesus is gonna come again. The question is, are you waiting for his coming? Are you enjoying that He's coming, or even you have no idea that Jesus is coming? This is our message wherever we go, not only in Lebanon. Jesus Want to save you Jesus wants to change your life.
Whether you are Muslim, whether you are coming from India, whether you're coming from Pakistan, It doesn't matter what is the color of your skin. What is written on on on your ID, if you are American or you're you're you're European, The kingdom of God is calling Everyone who created in God's image So, this is our message, and we are living in a crucial time now. Crisis in Lebanon is taking place since 2019. The Civil War started in 1975. But We have found that everything is shakable right now, and there's no real hope.
We lost our money in the banks Even we lost members of our family, Every day we lose something, losing and losing and losing, losing, this is our life, but We've never lost hope in Jesus. This is what makes us different. Because we are following The king of kings the principle of peace. This is This is something that you cannot understand in your mind. You need to experience in your inner man, in your spirit.
Once you ask the Holy Spirit to dwell in you, He will dwan. He will dwell. He will change your life. He will give you life. He will strengthen you.
That does not mean that you will never face trials, or challenges, or troubles, but in the midst of your trials, you can see. his hand moving. Yeah. Confronting you. This is my message for you guys.
If you haven't yet decided to follow Christ. Please come to him. Eternal life is waiting for you. A real hope. A real peace is waiting for you.
And and and if you're listening right now, And you're not understanding what our friend is saying from Lebanon. If you're not understanding it, it's because you are a natural man. See, I'm listening to this. Jeff's listening to this, and boy, we are excited because now we have that because we were born again.
So, you may be listening right now, and we appeal to you. 2 Corinthians chapter 5, we're ambassadors. We're appealing to you. Yes. Accept the Lord Jesus to know that peace that passes all understanding to have a right relationship with the Lord.
Jeff, have you been to Lebanon? I have not been to Lebanon.
Now, you've been all over the world, but you haven't been to Lebanon. I have not. Lebanon came to him. Oh, that's it. That's it.
Um But yet you have a burden for Lebanon. I have a burden for the lost all over the world. Uh yeah as you think about it and you ponder the eternity. We all will have an eternity one place or another. The Bible says there are two destinations, heaven and hell.
And only the only way We are able to go to heaven is by way of Jesus, as Ely said. And that's, you know, Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. No way to the Father except through me. And so the burden I have to share that message.
Well As we pray for lost people to be saved, it may be impossible. in our minds, but it's not impossible with God. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Troop Talk Live. I'm Dwayne Carson, and today We are.
Contemplating, asking God to do something. That is, well In our human minds, we would have to say it's just impossible. Um I think about being down at the Billy Graham Library, and uh seeing a picture of Billy Graham sitting in a stadium in Moscow. It's the Olympic stadium. It's totally empty.
He's just sitting there. And he begins to pray. Yeah. It's 1959. Communism is in full control in Russia, in Moscow, and Christianity is being snuffed out.
And he prays. Lord. Grant it that I could preach in this stadium and let thousands Yes, tens of thousands hear the gospel. He prayed that prayer in 1959. In 1992 Wow.
It took a little while for God to answer the prayer. but in nineteen ninety two he preached to over a hundred thousand. because of who was in the stadium and with the television. Billy Graham prayed what seemed to be a impossible prayer. The doors were shut.
But God opened those doors. And as we've been studying Nehemiah in our Wednesday in the Word Bible study, Nehemiah knew that a king had signed a law that the walls of Jerusalem could not be rebuilt. But he knew the God of heaven who was far greater than any king on this earth. And if you read the book of Nehemiah, he gets permission to rebuild the walls. Within 52 days, the walls are rebuilt.
And one of the things I love, guys, is Nehemiah starts off with the people in great distress. When he asked, what's going on? They were in great distress. You get to chapter 8. And they're having revival, and the people are now in great gladness.
And there's just something about when people come to know the Lord, as you were talking, their hearts change. They've got a peace with God, they've got that vibrant relationship. I can't tell you, gentlemen, what it was like for me to call God Father for the first time. When I knew that I'd been born again, the Spirit of God came in and I cried out, Abba. Father.
What a relationship. We want to challenge you, listeners, to be praying the impossible prayer. You know, when Nehemiah prayed, it took him four months. from chapter one to chapter two to get an answer. You can't always say, God, if you don't answer right now, I'm not going to keep praying.
No, you keep praying. You keep asking God for that lost person. You keep praying for that revival to take place in your community. You keep praying to take the gospel to the world. Let me be a part of something that's taking the gospel to the ends of the earth.
Jeff, I believe you prayed something like that. Oh yes. Uh my my prayer was To share the gospel with as many as I could. I was called to tell the world about Jesus, I wasn't called to a people group. Like a lot of missions say you need to be called to a people group.
I wasn't called to a people group. I was called to tell the world about Jesus. And that's what I've done in 19 countries in Asia. Uh they called it Martyr Alley. Six of the countries had 2% or less cunt.
Christian, that's 98 out of 100 never heard the name of Jesus. 15 of them had 10% or less Christian. That's 90 out of 100 never heard the name of Jesus. Half of them were on the most persecuted list, including the top four. And Muslim countries, communist countries, Myanmar.
and Mindanao in the Philippines with El Qaeda. You know If you've ever been to London, you go to John Wesley's chapel. They have a statue there of John Wesley, and on that statue it has the words: The world is my parish. Right. Wow.
That's got to be our mindsets, listeners.
Now Ely, tell us more. How did you come to know the Lord?
Well, I'm from, as I mentioned, from a Christian. background, but I've never had a relationship with the Lord. My story is uh very long. I try to just give titles. Um I'm not gonna go per details.
Someone invited me to an evangelical church.
Okay.
So started with that invitation. Exactly. And I've never attended any meeting in in an evangelical church. I went, I realized that the way that they praise God is different than our way. and uh I saw a priest, I didn't know that they call him pastor, teaching the word of God in in a very Um deep way, very clear, I really was able to understand the the Bible like never before.
I decided that I'm gonna come again to this place. I went home, I shared this with my father. Once he heard that I'm going I've been in an evangelical church, he became crazy because in Lebanon we are. We I'm coming from a Maronite background. We are very fanatic.
You know?
So he he shouted, he became crazy. I don't want to say what he said. Then I went I decided to go because what he said about the Em evangelical church was extremely different than what I have experienced. When I went the second time, the pastor was preaching my life. It was a divine moment.
As as people are hearing now, I believe it's not a coincidence, it's a divine moment for them. Jesus is calling you, my friends.
So I I I heard the pastor Sh uh preaching my life. I found out that I am a sinner, and And I need I need a salvation and no one is qualified No one can save me except Jesus. Neither any prophet, neither any s n n saint, Because we all are sinners. And he explained why Jesus came, for what purpose. Uh the father sent his son Blah blah blah he shared the whole message.
I decided to follow Jesus in that time. He gave an invitation If you'd like to Give your life to Jesus. Raise your hand. Trust me. I tried a lot to raise my hand, I couldn't.
As if someone were pressing my hand down. I didn't know that it was a spiritual battle and I didn't know what's going on in the spiritual realm. but he was saying, This is my last invitation. If anyone would like to give his life to Jesus. raise your hand.
I decided that I'm gonna raise my hand, whatever is gonna happen. Once I raised my hand because. I did this from all my heart, I felt that Something came to to to to my head from head to toe. I felt a Joy. Happiness like never before.
In the same second, The pastor was saying Congrat congratulations. Your name has been written right now in the book of heaven. You are a new creation. You are a newborn Christian. I understood what he was saying because I experienced what he was saying.
Then I came. I came back home, I shared this with with my father. He persecuted me for eighteen years and then After Eighteen years. My mother passed away, and the same day that my mother passed away. We took my father to the church.
He gave his life to Jesus. At the age of eighty one he passed away at at the age of eighty four. My mother came to Christ before him. My nephews came to Christ, my brother came to Christ. my sister came to Christ and sometimes We love numbers that Millions came to Christ, sometimes one person.
Oh, I love this. Can listeners? I hope you're getting this. Yes, one person represents the Samaritan lady. Yes.
Sometimes we go maybe to Morocco, we share the gospel with a group of people.
Sometimes maybe one person. Come to Christ. And His life Will Have influence on many.
So You're bringing back memories for me of being in evangelism class at Chris Wolf College with Dr. Alan Street. And one of the things he stressed with us was the one.
Sometimes you just got to get one person saved in a family, one person saved in a neighborhood. And all of a sudden, a light begins to shine. And where there's something that's dark. House that is dark, but all of a sudden there's one light. Everybody starts, where's the oh, that light?
Look at that light. Look at that light. Or in the neighborhood. One house has believers. That house is different.
And that begins to draw. And I remember him teaching us about that. Think of the one. who then, like that Samaritan woman, goes and shares with the whole city. And that's what happened with you.
This is exactly wow, one after another. I love it. I represent the Samaritan lady. When I came to Christ, I've never heard anyone of of our family that he He's following Christ. God is using me, and I believe that God is using to.
is using the upcoming generations You know, the light came to the Karam's family.
So and maybe some one is listening to us now. Let me tell you, why don't you be this Samaritan lady? Why don't you give the opportunity to the Holy Spirit? to change your life and to change everyone's life who's surrounding your life. Why don't you be the light and the soul that God wants you to be?
Well, you know today this broadcast is being produced on five thirteen. In Matthew 5, 13, Jesus said, You are the salt of the earth. And tomorrow, Matthew 5:14, you're to be a light. And so just using that date, the word verses, I'm just telling you. Don't take your light and put it under a bushel basket.
Don't hide it. This little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine. I want the whole world to know. And so what a story.
Now you got involved in ministry.
So we went from salvation to there's a different type of service that you're doing for the Lord. Tell us about that. Yeah. Before telling you this, I have something I would like to share. Sure.
When God asked me to call me to plant the church that I'm pastoring right now, And I asked God, what name you want To give to this church, I heard a voice in my ear saying, Nations desire. Desire church. While I'm coming to the US, In the plane, the idea came to my mind I'm using you, Eli, not only in Lebanon, in the nations too. For this reason, Alright, when we come back, we're going to hear more about this. I would love to.
You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today we are talking about praying some impossible prayers. And if you've had this experience and would like to call in and tell about something God did, just Incredible. You just were overwhelmed.
866-348-7884. I do get the idea, though, that many of you are right now just listening because we're hearing a great testimony of how God worked in a person's life in Lebanon. And when you hear that word Lebanon, I don't know how you may be reacting, but a lot of times we do think, well, Lebanon is a Muslim country and Lebanon, a lot of terrorists.
Well, that's.
Some of the fabric of Lebanon, but there are some wonderful believers. There are some strong churches. And I have a friend from Lebanon who just keeps telling me, Pastor Carson, you better know there is a revival taking place in Lebanon right now. And God is on the move. And as we heard years ago from Blackabe, find out where God is on the move and join Him.
And so today we're also got Jeff Chetwood here, International Commission. He's part of that ministry. And they are looking to get the gospel to 209 countries and 194. They're in every year, not once a year. every year And last year, 21 million.
came to know the Lord. And that just I mean that number is staggering, but yet There are eight billion. on this earth. And sometimes I find myself going to sleep. Um I want to say this carefully, not boasting, but with tears.
We've got the responsibility to take the gospel to 8 billion people.
So, yes, 21 million is phenomenal, the work remains. The fields are white unto harvest.
Now, when you became a pastor, Ely, God gave you a vision for the name of the church.
So tell our listeners about that because I've just, the moment I heard this, is the first time hearing this, of the name that God gave you. Tell us more about that and how that's impacted your life presently. Yeah. I was bowing down and I was praying. I asked the Lord and I heard the voice on on my ear, Nations Desire.
Mushtahl Umam in Arabic. Say that again? Mushtahal Umam.
So, um While I'm coming now to to the US sitting and the plane This this idea came to my mind that Have you ever thought, Elie, why why I gave you this this name to the church that you are going to lead? Because I will be using you in the nations. And this is what God is doing through IC. through international commission We are doing great job in Morocco, in Tunisia, in Algeria, in Yemen. in Jordan, in Libya, in Lebanon, in Syria, in Egypt, sixteen countries What to say, where to start?
How God is using us in Qatar in Saudi Arabia.
So if you if you listen what's going on now in Iran, You think that They are destroying the country. If you watch the news, You feel sad and depressed. But let me tell you something that Hundreds of people are coming to Christ. Hundreds of people are coming to Christ. God knows how to reach the nations.
The book of Acts. Is still moving in the nations. If you go to Qatar or Abu Dhabi, you see. People are coming from India, from Pakistan, looking for work, and these people, the Lord is meeting them, preparing them, equipping them. If you go to Lebanon and you visit the refugees, you can visit Kurdish churches, believe me or not, in Lebanon.
And they they are They are in Lebanon for few. years and then they will go to Europe Many of them now are in Europe. They already has planted churches. And those who are in Lebanon now applying for an immigration, the immigration God is equipping them, is preparing them for His work in Europe and in the nations. Wow.
When we look at the war, Maybe maybe we feel We we we feel pain And we feel sorry about what's going on, but let us look in a different way. What's going on in the Middle East is not politic, is prophetic. the second coming of Jesus. God is preparing the second coming's on the horizon, doesn't it? Yes.
And so it's not political. Jeff, he says it's not political, it's prophetic. God is on the move. He's calling out a bride, and people are getting saved and becoming part of the church. And I hope, listeners, you're being encouraged right now because, yes, when I watch the news about Lebanon, I don't get positive things.
But today we're hearing a lot of positive things. You got saved, family members got saved. You become part of a church. You started a church. And immediately you took up the commission.
To fulfill the great commission with the name of your church. And so not only are people in Lebanon getting saved. But you're sending people out to other nations. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be, Jeff? Amen, amen.
That's what Jesus said to do, his last words. Or the Great Commission, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you. And you will be my witnesses first in Jerusalem, then Judea, Samaria, to the ends of the earth. That's Acts 1.8. And all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.
Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit. Teaching them what I have taught you, and lo, I'm with you always, even to the end of the age. And in John, as the Father has sent me, I am sending you. And Matthew and Luke, and Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, the last words. of Jesus is a great commission, or not the great suggestion, They are to go to every nation.
That's every our former president said, we go to the easy nations, we go to the hard nations, we go to the safe nations, we go to the dangerous nations. We're going to every nation. That's the ends of the earth. And we go in the power of the Holy Spirit. We go, and the center of God's will is the safest place on the planet.
What a privilege to be his ambassador with the only message that will change an eternity: his gospel message.
Well, you know. When we look at people who have a different belief system. that belief system that is anti-Christian.
Well, I'm always thinking about a guy named Saul. Boy, was he of a different religion, and he was anti-Christian. But then he met the Lord Jesus and he became Paul. The guy that was the persecutor of the church became the proclaimer of Christ. And we got to have that mindset.
that all over the world people that we think could never be reached are very reachable. Um As we went into the break, I said to you, Ely, that I would love to hear You share with our listeners What might be an impossible prayer? for Lebanon as they think How could I pray for Lebanon? But I want to not just pray, God bless them. What kind of prayer should they be praying for you and for Lebanon right now that they would write down, this is impossible, but God does the impossibilities?
Thank you for this question. What a wonderful question. You know, If I ask. Pray for our economic situation. If I ask, pray for peace.
If I ask, This is not my heart. I just ask everyone who's hearing us now to pray for the spiritual growth in the church of Lebanon. Because when the believers Grow. Spiritually, When the believers are really well matured, we can change the country. I attended one day a conference for Dr.
Ramesh Richard. I don't know if you're familiar with this name. He was saying that healthy church affects healthy family. and healthy families affect healthy society.
So when the church is full of the Holy Spirit, when the church is obeying God, when the believers are willing to live for God, I believe they will have their influence. We can change the country, we can change the world. powerful words, um Praying for the spiritual maturity of believers. That's it. And uh And then they To me, a spiritually mature believer is one who wants the gospel to go, as Jeff said, Acts 1:8.
That's when you're really mature. You're now not self-centered, but you are world-minded. I got to get the gospel to everybody, and I sacrificed to do that.
Now, International Commission, before we wrap up. Jeff, give us that nutshell about International Commission and how our listeners can become a part of doing this with you guys. International Commission, you can go on internationalcommission.org. And you can see what we're doing and how to give, what projects we have that you can go on. Americans and those listening can go on international projects.
25 of them, and then we have 550 national to national projects, which are done by the nationals in each of the countries without Americans because they learned how to do it. And they are crisscrossing their country, crisscrossing the countries next to them. And God's plan of salvation for the world is taking place. It's beyond anything we could imagine. Yes, let's be a part.
Folks, check out International Commission. Ely, thank you for being with us today. Happy. You're the top line.