Faith in the Fire

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And now, here's today's Truth Talk Live host. Good day, Truth Talk Live Nation. We have a very interesting and also a very, I guess. Current topic that's going on. It's a topic of much debate.

And as Christians, we are to have a Christian response for whatever's happening, not just a political response or a social response. We want to have a Christian response and a Christian angle of what's going on.

So today's topic is going to be the Iranian conflict. And today we have Pastor Dr. Greg Hennett and with Hennett Ministries. And also give us the name of your church, Doctor. It's Greg Hennett Ministries, and also I'm attending Destiny City Church in Salisbury, North Carolina.

Oh, good deal. And we also have Pastor Robinson here. And let me try to get the name. Is it Missionary Baptist Church? No, it's Madison Heights.

Missionary Baptist Church in Lexington, North Carolina.

Okay, all right. I probably had the missionary senior pastor there.

Okay, I probably had the missionary in mind because you guys just recently went on a trip. And we're also going to talk about them going on the trip.

So we've got a one-two punch today. We're going to talk about the Israel, the conflict in Iran. And we're also going to talk about Pastor Robinson and Pastor Hennett's trip to Israel. They were there when the bombs were dropping. They were there when a lot of violence was going on.

But obviously, they are safe. They came back. But they have a story to tell.

So we have a lot to talk about. Also, this is a call-in show.

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So, starting off from the top. We talked about this a little bit earlier. We're going to jump into the Iranian conflict first and then talk about your trip a little bit later on.

So, starting with the Iranian conflict. What can you all offer about what's going on to our listeners?

Well, you know, we know from the biblical principles that God may permit. Evil and injustice to last for a certain season, but he always has a day of reckoning. And this is my personal belief. I can't say that the scriptures directly say this, but I believe this is the day when God is providentially bringing the evil regime in uh Iran to an end. Yeah.

I can remember in 1979 When um Jimmy Carter was the president, and the Iranian youths, they were the zealots, the Islamic zealots, took our embassy. And held over 200 people hostage for over a year. And the really disappointing response of Carter at that time. But it was the beginning of a period where God was permitting this evil to go. But as Job says, the triumphing of the wicked is short.

Now, you may think 40 years is not short. But in God's time, it is. But I believe he's bringing to an end this wicked regime, which has not only troubled Americans, but has harassed Israel day and night and all the other neighbors in the Middle East.

So it's God's time, and I believe we're seeing a providential divine judgment, whatever your politics may be for or against Trump. I believe this is the time when God has said Thus far shalt thou come, and no farther. Right, right. And from what I heard recently, Iran was not always like this. Number one sponsor of the world, killing its own people.

Just a total dictatorship. The human rights violations, the violations on women's rights, jailing people for political purposes, not for criminal purposes, but for political religious purposes. Before all of this, from what I heard, uh about forty seven years ago. It was uh more open, uh, democratic area. And they were Thriving, flourishing in culture, in math, and making all these kinds of contributions to the world.

And this is also, Pastor Robertson, this is also the place of Persia. Yes, okay. Over Persia. And as you said, Jamal, many years ago, they had the freedom similar to what we have today in our nation. But under the regimes over the past several years, the people have been suppressed.

They have been controlled. And the reality of it is, a lot of the younger generation that is coming up now in Iran. They've had enough. That's why there were so many of them protesting, and while so many of them were lives were taken, they were just tired of the regime just controlling every facet of their life. And as Dr.

Hennett said, I think it is the time where this evil regime is put down and is brought in control and into check. Yeah, and for the people that. Our Not to sound divisive. You know, this is not a show where we are divisive. Again, we are looking at things from a Christian angle.

So. Uh I say that in intro to to the protesters here. Uh people that want to say We don't deserve to be over there. Our American soldiers don't need to have their lives in danger from going over there. This is not our fight.

This is not our war. We could be in some so many other areas. And all that may be true.

However, those same people will protest and talk about and yell and scream on online about uh the violations about um social justice people uh here about violations here. Uh we recently had a show a little while ago That had the honor to host about ICE violations and people being hurt and The unfortunate lives that were lost during those times, and people were taken to the streets over the lives and over. Um I guess What they thought were human rights violations here in America.

So, my question is. To hit it from a Christian angle, if you're going to talk about lives being lost here and about oppression here, then shouldn't that also equate to lives being lost in other areas, human rights violations in other areas, oppression in other areas? And yes, we could be in Africa right now. We have a situation in Nigeria to where so many Christians are still being killed. That's right.

From the last time I checked, they were the number one people that were being killed in any area was. Christians in Nigeria. You know, we saw some of those brothers when we were in Nazareth. Do you remember that? Yes.

We were coming down from the church of the Annunciation down to a restaurant, and we ran into about 50 or 60, maybe 75 Nigerians. They were so thankful for what America is doing. Absolutely. And they told us they were praying for us, and we told them we were praying for them.

So they were very thankful. Yeah, very thankful, yeah. And that leads me to, and don't forget your point. I just want to jump in real quick because this is something I forgot. And thank you for handing for that segue.

You had Nigerians praising uh What's happening?

So. If you are looking at the Iranian conflict as something that we don't need to be a part of, Then tell that to the people who are Iranians who are dancing and celebrating and holding up American flags saying thank you for the freedom. But I just wanted to jump in with that interjection real quick. Don't look at it from just Anybody else's standpoint? Look at it from the people on the ground.

You have Iranians celebrating themselves, but you had a point, Dr. Pastor, that you wanted to make? The outcry that's not there for the 30-some thousand Iranians that were slaughtered by their own government. Where's the outcry for those people? That's what bothers me.

It's very hypocritical to be one-sided on that. And as you said, we've got this going on in other places. And where's that outcry? Right, right, exactly.

So, and to finish out that point. I'm just all over the place because there's so much to talk about.

So, we do have human rights violations and oppression going all over the area.

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So, on the political kind of stance on this. uh is from what I've heard Iran was close to producing weapons grade nuclear weapons. And that is the next level up. That's going from junior varsity to to varsity. And I know people are probably saying, well, you had this issue with Iraq, weapons of mass destruction.

Well, look, uh if we're wrong... then we're we're we're wrong. We're not a perfect nation. We do make mistakes. But this is what we're talking about today: Truth Talk Live, the Iranian Conflict, and also a trip to Israel.

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Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. We are going to be talking about the Iranian conflict and we're also going to talk about a trip to Israel that these guys took. And by these guys, these these guys I'm talking about uh Pastor Robinson. And we're going to talk about also his partner in crime, Dr. Greg Hennett.

We also have Cameron calling in, and Cameron is expert of some ilk on this topic.

So we also need your calling as well. Again, the number is 866-348-7884. Again, that's 866-348-7884.

So Cameron, are you on right now? Yes, I believe I'm on with you. Can you hear me? I can. And before we get started with Cameron.

Cameron was introduced to me by a Another Radio show host by the name of Matt Slick, and he hosts a talk show called Matt Slick Live, where he's an apologist for the Christian faith. He delves in logic, history, biology, science. He's one of the guys that strengthened me.

So I called him up, asking him to call in. He said, I got an even better guy to call in on this topic. And that's where Cameron comes in.

So, Cameron, you were telling me about all the information that you know about the Iranian conflict, and you were just wowing me with all the information that you presented to me.

So, Give us your input on what you know about what's going on over there in Iran.

Okay.

Well, I'll try to go as quick as I can. The Political history means a great deal for our understanding of this conflict. People a lot of times will try to say that Iraq, that Iran is going to be like Iraq, and it's not really a good comparison because of the political situation of the people and the government. The two countries are very different. Iraq had the type of political situation where they were very tribal, hard to get them together as one big group.

Lots of infighting. and they had no national history. Of any type of government system that we have where they're voting. It was a very alien concept to them.

so hard to introduce to their society. Iran is very different. They were much more nationalistic. While they do have many different groups, Within their country, they are very nationalistic. They see themselves as Iranian throughout the nation.

That is a very strong sense among them. With those people that are in the country and in the diaspora that had to leave after the revolution. Um They also previous to the current regime, had a system of government Similar to Canada. It was a constitutional monarchy.

So they did have voting, they did have that kind of thing. Um And what happened is forty-seven years ago in nineteen seventy nine, The communists and the Muslims during the Cold War. got together because they're a minority, so they needed each other's help. To overthrow the Shah, overthrow the Iranian government that was friendly. to Israel and the United States.

The Russians helped to fund the Communist and Muslim Revolution. they took over the country while the Shah was out of the country and he was not able to get back. When they did so, The Muslims did not want to share, the Shia Muslims in particular, did not want to share power with the communists, so they killed them.

So since nineteen seventy nine, you've had the Uh Muslim Shias with the declared the Ayatollah in control of the country since then and they have Put their religious control, force their religion on the nation. The people themselves. Are not interested in Islam. At the time, there was in 1979, then when they took over, there was.

Some feeling of I don't know, maybe they're good because The Shah viewed the communists and the Shia Muslims as a threat to the nation, and he was right.

So he was very harsh to those two groups.

So it gave empathy. And let me jump in right there in case we run out of time. I just want to back up a little bit. Because when you told me about that, it wowed me.

So. I just want to make sure that people don't miss That nice, important, impactful tidbit that you shared. Go over again about how their form of government was like Canada. And also, how you had some people there that rejected. Uh Islam.

Just go over that again for Just to make sure it hits home with with with people.

Okay.

Yeah, so their people had a system of government like Canada. They're used to Being able to vote for certain parts of their government that people had a say. It wasn't purely a monarchy under the Shah. It was similar to Canada, where they had a constitutional market. They had a constitution that said these are the people's rights.

The monarchy was similar to a mixture of kind of how we have a President, House, and Senate. The way the powers in their nation or organized is different than America But not entirely an alien concept, right? For them, they had the ability to vote. They had a level of The people In it. It wasn't just the Shah.

It wasn't the Shah being a king. It wasn't just him having all power. That's not how it worked. And they had judges as a separation of powers, kind of like what we do. As far as the people themselves are concerned, The people, like I said, were not majority Muslim.

There was some sympathy for Islam, but since then, since you've had the Shia Muslims in control and the amount of repression and how. Really evil they've been to the people, the people have grown to really hate Islam, they hate communism. When the people are liberated from this, when they're able to take their country back, you could say that the people, in a sense, have been inoculated against. Communism. and and Islam.

And and right now um They definitely are not friendly to Islam. They don't want, the people themselves don't want to say, you can't be Muslim. But there's definitely a sense of when the government when they when they're able to retake their government and reinstitute The Shah that currently is outside of the country, the previous Shah's son, his name is. Rizapallavi, Prince Rizapulavi. Um They don't want to say you can't be Muslim, but they'll almost certainly say we don't want.

Uh any Religious control in our government. They want a secular government that allows everyone to choose their religion. Much similar to how we have in America and the US, but they intend on. uh having Rizzapilavi Who is like again is the son of the Shah that was. exiled, basically.

He's lived in exile. He's currently in Washington DC. And he is the one that the people right now in the middle of the revolution, they're calling out his name. They're saying Jabid Shah, which is Eternal King or Long Live the King. They're calling for him.

They're saying this is the final battle. Path Lavi will return. His name is Riza Palavi or Path Lavi. And so the people aren't calling for Khameni's son. As what Khamenei's.

Yeah, so they want this guy, Rizzapolani. And from what I've heard, Rizza Polani is a friend of the Jewish people. He is a friend of American values. And I'm just jumping in real quick because I don't want to run out of time here.

So if you could, um tell us a little bit about um How Islam doesn't work here. This is not going against Arabic people. As I said before in another show, Arabic people is an ethnicity. Islam is a form of religion. And if you read the Quran, the Quran doesn't work with freedom of the people.

They say kill the infidels. It's a form of oppression for women. I've had somebody who was from the Middle East, he mentioned all this. It's documented. This is not me saying this.

This is not. uh some kind of uh hatred against uh Islam. We're just reading it for for what it says.

So if you could we're going to have uh we're going to be running out of time soon. If you could, in about forty five seconds, tell us about uh Rizza Pelazzi.

So Riza Palavi, as I said, he is the son of the previous Shah. He is currently not in that country. He is in the United States. He is communicating with the Iranian diaspora around the world. and the Iranians that are in the country.

Even to the point of hacking into their local TV, their local texting phones in Iran to give his message. Good deal. They're following him and they're calling out his name to lead their transitional government. Just gotta jump in. Hey guys, get saved or find somebody to get saved.

We're gonna lose you. Tune back in when you can. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Yeah. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

We are talking about the Iranian conflict. We've had a lot of expert opinions on this, and we're also going to end the show with. Dr. Hint and Pastor Robertson's trip to Israel during the the start of this conflict. But before we get to that, I want to bring in Cameron, and I also want to finish out the the conflict, and then we'll transition over to the pastor's trip to Israel to talk about what They witnessed and how the church was over there.

But before we get to that, we're going to again finish out our talk on the Iranian conflict. And so, Cameron, are you still with us? Did we lose Cameron? Uh-oh, can you hear me?

Sorry, yeah.

Okay, yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, so yeah, we uh. You know, that's how the clock is. You get into a good topic, then we run out of time.

So I hated to cut you off there, but I wanted to. Gideon about uh rizzapalazing how the people of Iran Not the past regime, but the people of Iran, the free people, want this king Rizapalazi in there.

So I wanted to get that out before. We we miss that.

So if you can that's what they are calling for, that's what the diaspora are calling for, and that's what the Iranians in Iran are calling for. If there's one message, those people are trying to get out. Yeah. This is the final battle. Rizza Pallavi will return.

They want the Shaw back. And we want them to be a free people as well. We want freedom everywhere. And that is something that. the Islamic faith does not project.

Again, this is no hatred against the people of Islam. We're we're just talking about truth here, what's written in their doctrine. Um so If you want to Correct me, correct our panel here, and offer a difference of opinion. Um, you know, call us up, uh, say what we're wrong. Uh we do have uh some issues with Christians.

Uh how Christians aren't perfect. But I have not seen anywhere in the Bible or with Jesus' life to where you have oppression, you have people under boot, you have people under an iron fist under Christianity.

Now, people might do things in Christ's name, but in no way is what Christ did. going to be bad for the people. Jesus brought people in with love. He brought them in through embrace, not through violence. Um so Uh with that being said I also want to get back to the violence going on in the Iranian conflict and how.

We do want a free people over there in Iran, but it might have to come through violence, unfortunately. And we want to or we should support anybody being free. Um be nice to do it through nonviolent methods. But if it's through any other means, that's how we got our freedom here through the Civil War and then Revolutionary War. And we can celebrate our freedoms because of those conflicts.

So, you also talked about a boots-on-the-ground scenario in Iran.

So, if you could give us about a minute or about a. 90 seconds. I know it's quick, but if you could give us 90 seconds on that boots on the ground scenario, and what you told me earlier. Yeah. It depends on what you mean by boots on the ground.

If boots on the ground means large mass troops like you had in Iraq, I highly doubt that'll be what occurs. And I think that's what most people think about when they think boots on the ground.

However, boots on the ground could be something like special forces, and we don't know to what degree or what the US plans or Israel's plans are in that. But what we do have is we've had large scale conflict missiles attacking our large military stuff. And now, as of yesterday, We're getting down to smaller groups. Yesterday, we started striking with drones, lots of different kinds of drones. Against their Betsyjis or their police that basically suppresses the people down to groups of two, and you where.

Israel will see a group of two police because they're keeping the people inside, and they'll nail them with a drone. then there will there will also be sometimes checkpoints on the roads where they will find people that are against them or if they're celebrating The revolution or the death of the Ayatollah. They killed two people at a checkpoint yesterday.

So, as a result, The U.S. is fighting back against those oppressive police that besiege or the besieges. at a checkpoint and blowing up the police at the checkpoint leaving the cars Right next to those police, unharmed. Wow.

So we're getting down to being able to do boots on the ground level attack. but with new technology via drones. That is somewhere. You don't have to be the boots on the ground. We are the boots on the ground.

I have myself spoken to people on X who are in Tehran. confirmed through other sources, they said, we will be the boots on the ground. And when the US and Israel is done with their major attacks, They will be free. To respond, and even some of the military they're hoping that is left that is friendly to them, they'll be able to get arms through them. That is a good headline.

It should be, we will be the boots on the ground, the Iranian people. Not America, not the UN. We will be.

So hopefully this will be a situation to where they take control of their own situation and that we won't have to be directly involved. We could be a supporter, but this should be a movement of the people. Cameron, thank you very much for your input. I look forward to talking to you soon. Give Brother Matt Slick our love and you take care.

God bless, sir. Thank you. God bless. All right. Thank you.

So With All of that being said and discussed about the reigning conflict, and Jerusalem being involved, us being involved. As was said earlier, you guys were in Jerusalem while this conflict was was going on. Tell us about your experience there and how that made you feel. And tell us about what you experienced with the people there that you met and what the people there um uh how you all interacted during this time. I do want to say this trip that we took was planned well over a year ago, a group of 24.

When we got to Israel, things were great. We got two days of touring in. And then on Saturday morning, as we were heading out, we got the alert that the strikes had begun. We headed back to our hotel to shelter in place. And I will be honest, it was a very scary time.

We've never been through that, never experienced that here in my life.

So this was very new to all of us. And so there were some fears. There were some tears that were flowing. But we got back into the hotel. We gathered in the lobby.

One of the young men in our group, Hunter Henson, broke into a song, No Fear. We began to worship. We began to pray. Yes, we did. We ended up with communion in a bomb shelter.

We had an amazing time there. We took a situation that could have shaken everyone of our faith and strengthened our faith. And to God be all the glory for that. Amen. Absolutely.

And while you're talking about that communion, I'm going to pass the ball to you, Dr. Hennett. There was something a little bit particular about this communion. If you could share about that a little bit.

Well, we planned to take it that night in the chapel, right? Or a room adjacent to it, but the bombing, the missile activity drove us underground four different times. And I think it's the second time or third time we were under there. Pastor David and Pastor Jimmy decide it was time to take the communion.

So we did. And I don't know whether they had time to look up the elements or what they had to go with, but I think we had some bread, a loaf of bread that we broke. I think it may have been wafers. But the funny thing was that the only wine, so-called, that we had was cough syrup.

So we were passing that around. Everybody took a long draft of that, and we looked at each other like, hey, what was going on? That kind of lightened the mood a little bit. But anyway, it was not to take away from the communion because that was a very special time. Very special.

How we can praise God and give Him glory in the midst of what's going on around us. Yes. And that was a time to where. You guys were there temporarily. But the Iranian people have to deal with that.

Or not the Iranian people, but the Jewish people have to deal with that always. Every day. And that's something that I don't want the listeners to miss. It is good to pray, it is good to support, call people up. Um And even travel like you all did.

Thank goodness for that. We were praying for you all. We're glad you guys got back. You know, and we could talk to you and share your experiences. But we can't forget how the Jewish people are living with this.

day after day. and not just during the Iranian conflict right now. Let's not forget we had the October seventh war that they just got through with a few months ago. Yep. The uh festival where they were out there celebrating and um You know, just dancing, not offending anybody, not hurting anybody.

And then they were attacked, and people were. slaughtered and hostages and that lasted for two years. there's always been conflict in in Israel.

So during this time were these pastors had to worship in a bomb shelter. Just think about what the Jewish people have to deal with every day. But Pastor Robinson, while in the bomb shelter, had this prayer that was really powerful. I'm not sure if it was a prayer or if he was just thinking out loud, you know, but he let it rip. And he was preaching.

He was preaching. Do you remember what you said during that time? I just said that, you know what? We're going to praise God. Whether we're in the mountaintop, in the valley, whether the sun's shining or whether it's cloudy that day, we're going to praise God and nothing's going to stop us.

And we had prayer, we had worship, we had praise. And it was amazing. You could feel God's spirit in the room. It was just a powerful time. It was.

It was. It was. And that was something that inspired me, and I had to share it on my pages. I said, We can't even get out in the rain to go to church. These guys are in a bomb shelter, and they're still praising.

What else can you share about your trip? That would just bring us there with you and make us feel like we were there with you to where we could see what you all saw. What else would you like to share about your trip?

Well, you know, we were in Magdalen the first three nights, and that's a beautiful hotel there. Great food. It's a wonderful sight. You're right there on the Lake of Galilee, on the North Shore. And there was a dig there.

The synagogue at Magdalen, the ancient synagogue, has just been discovered in 2009.

So we could look at that site. We could see that synagogue where it is almost certain Jesus taught. Not just once, but probably many times. Right there on the Nazareth Road. Mary Magdalene was from there.

This was Jesus' stomaching ground, if you will, northern Galilee. And so that was amazing. But you know, just going to say to your listeners that uh since may fourteenth, nineteen forty eight. Israel has never been totally secure and free from the threat. of bombing, of terrorism, of war.

And it gave us a little taste of that, didn't it? Absolutely. I mean, we could just for a short while. Understand what they lived. And when we got to Jerusalem that Saturday morning, the soldiers were there to meet us.

And there were probably about 50. Israeli soldiers, men and women. The oldest one probably was 25. Yeah. Very young.

And some of us shared the gospel. I think I was talking to one about the history of their country. He seemed impressed that I knew that. And then another brother, John, shared the gospel with him. Absolutely.

And he later said that he was glad that he did so. Yes, sir. This Israeli soldier. As you can see, guys, we have a packed show today. We are having to wrap up because we just are overflowing with content here.

But we like your call. Comment, questions, corrections, call us up 866-348-7884, Truth Talk Live. Truth talks. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

I have Pastor Greg Hennett with me and I have Pastor Robinson with me. And before we go on any further, I don't want anybody to miss out on what you all have going on and how to get in contact with you.

So, Dr. Hennett, if you could tell us about your church, your ministries, anything going on, any books that you want to highlight? By the way, he has 19 books. He doesn't brag about that. I will.

19 books and counting. The guy's an amazing writer. He's always writing, always chronicling.

So, if you all could mention your churches, your ministries, what you all have going on, and how people can get in contact with you. Dr. Hennett, you can go first, sir. Greg Hennett Ministries is a teaching ministry. We try to emphasize practical theology, teaching people how to walk closely with God and go through their personal testing now in the church age, because God doesn't intend us to go through the tribulation period.

But it's most important that we do prove faithful now, or we won't have assurance of that wonderful event we call the rapture.

So, that's an emphasis of our teaching. I've been studying prophecy in depth, Old Testament and New, for over 10 years, and written four volumes on that alone. Those books are carried by Logos Bible software in case you are a Logos user. But all of our books are available on Amazon and other sources online in both soft copy, paperback, and E-book.

Now, some of the books are on devotionals.

Some of them are on books of the Bible, Colossians, Philippians, Revelation, and others on Christian living. I have one called Walking in His Ways, which teaches us the various stages and spiritual disciplines of the Christian life. And one is on, at least one is on the Proverbs, Pearls from the Proverbs, and one is on overcoming adversity. I'm sure if you're listening to me, you know what adversity is. We have different kinds of adversity when we walk with Christ.

So that book helps you gain a biblical, spiritual perspective on your difficulties and how to overcome them, because it's all about overcoming. It's all about God building our character through overcoming.

Now, I also have host a podcast here through the Truth Network, which is Until He Comes with Dr. Greg Hennett. I encourage you to listen in and you can subscribe. It's free. Also, I do what I call Hennett Minutes, which is on YouTube.

They're short devotional videos on a broad range of subjects, and that might be of interest to you, too, as well as I'm active posting on Facebook every day under the name of Greg Hennett. G-R-E-G-H-I-N-N-A-N-T. All right, Pastor Robertson? Yeah, I'm the pastor of Madison Heights Free Will Baptist Church in Lexington, North Carolina. I have been privileged to be the pastor there for 30 plus years, and God is still doing great things at Madison Heights.

We have an array of ministries in our church featuring our men and our women. I have a great teen meeting. We have a children's church. We have a lot going on there. And so we would love for you to check us out.

If you don't have a home church, we're in Lexington, North Carolina. And thank you for allowing us to be a part of this program today. And I'm sure that's a great church because I've met several of the people in that church. I met his associate pastor, Chris Elliott. He's a great guy.

In the bomb shelter. In the bomb shelter. Yeah, we got to be very close there. And I've been to both of these. Guys, churches, and they are great churches.

So, if you have a church that you're looking for, if you just want to visit, check them out. And also, check out what they have going on outside of their church. One of the things about the church of Jesus, he didn't just stay in a building, he went out to the people. That's what these guys do.

So, check them out. Pastor Dr. Greg Hennett and Pastor Robertson.

So, check them out. And Pastor Robertson had a story or some more comments he wanted to have about his trip. You know, ours almost done, but we have so much more content. But we're going to give them. Two or three more programs.

At least two or three more. Yeah. But Pastor Robertson, you have the floor, sir. Yeah. I just want to share just briefly with you an event that took place probably about the morning after we arrived in Jerusalem.

You could see the tension was building. You could see the uncertainty, the worry on everybody. And I made the decision that we needed to get together as a group. We got a chance to get together, not because we had to be in the bomb shelter, but we chose that place to go to. We got together.

Everybody began to air their feelings, their concerns, and their worries. And it went from that to one of our best worship services of all. People really began to praise God and sing. Pastor Jimmy Mercer and his wife Marissa, the other co-hosts on our group, all of our group got together. Our praise team, as we developed in the underground church in Jerusalem, began to worship.

And that was a turning point. It was from that point forward. This group drew. Drew closer together, leaned on each other, and really relied on God to bring us through all of this. Absolutely.

And He was so wonderful and faithful, and we really ended up really having bonded quite well. And I just want to mention to add to that, that this morning that David was talking about was after a bomb strike near the hotel. a missile strike, could have been a drone. But it was a strike that happened at 11 p.m. the night before, and it shook the whole building.

So that was the first time we actually felt that. Coming down the day before, we had seen black smoke rising from either drone strikes or missiles. You remember that? Yes. But that was still a little bit distant, it was about a mile or two from us along the highway.

And we saw the iron iron dome missiles being shot up to intercept the things. But that night before this event, we had literally been physically shaken And it did shake the faith of some, some more than others, but all of us had to sort of get our bearings. And David was instrumental in leading us in that moment, and Jimmy. Amen. And I grew to have great respect for them.

I always did have respect for David. I knew him. I didn't know Jimmy. But I was impressed with the way they both took the leadership, encouraged everyone to trust the Lord. There was a little bit of division there.

Some felt that those who had more faith were trying to boast, but then they responded and said, No, we're not trying to boast. We're just trying to encourage you. And so that. Set the tone. And we just grew.

The middle point of that day, by noon, we were feeling much better. By the evening, everybody was soaring in faith. And it wasn't a sugar high. Would you agree? It was a.

Absolutely. I mean, they were trusting God worth their time. Absolutely. It was just a complete change from the attitude that morning to that evening. You could just see everybody's faith strengthening, realizing that our only hope was our trust in God.

We had no control over anything. We had to totally rely on Him. There's no high like the high of Jesus. Amen. None.

That's why a lot of high. No high. I like the most high. That's right. Most definitely.

That's why addicts who come off of whatever substance they're using. When they get that quote unquote high offer Jesus, they can put those substances down.

So, Jesus is real. He's powerful. He's moving in all of our lives. You just got to let him in.

So, I'll also. Uh like to While we're talking about this and able to talk about this, I just want to thank the people that allow us to keep the lights on, keep the microphones hot. That's going to be Carolina Wood Floors. It's going to be Mighty Muscadine, La Blue Ultra Bodied Water, excuse me, Ultra Bottled Water. And also I want to thank Stu Eperson and Robbie Dilmore, Christian Carr guy, for allowing us to come in here and talk about this crucial topic.

I want to thank Roy Morgan out in Lexington, who gave me some topics to use. Again, Matt Slick. I also want to thank what's his name? I call him Sizemore. That's what Stu calls him, but his name is Brian Sizer.

And he's out at Classic Country radio station.

So those are the guys that. We all jailed together to get the mission out, and it is about the mission. It is about Christianity and not just Christianity and Christianity's sake. but pushing Jesus. And there's one thing that um I want to mention is How Christians, we get it wrong.

And we're imperfect. That's right. But we follow the perfect Savior. That's right. So you can mention any Christian here: myself, Dr.

Hennett, Pastor Robertson, and you can mention our failures, anybody failures all day. But you cannot mention the failures of Jesus Christ because He does not fail at all.

So don't follow other Christians. Jesus didn't say follow other Christians, He said follow Him. I'm the way, the truth, and the life.

So also wanted to mention one more other thing. That I got a little hint here from Dr. Hinnan about the underground church.

So, about 90 seconds. Can you talk about the underground church? Sure, just from various sources. I know if you're familiar with The Voice of the Martyrs magazine and ministries, the Fremen's Ministry, and many other ministries that keep tabs on what God is doing evangelistically around the world, God has been giving visions. To various Islamic people throughout the Middle East, but particularly in Iran, the house church movement has exploded.

Thousands and thousands of Iranians have come to Jesus.

So, what we discussed earlier as primarily a political Ideological, national deliverance is for our brothers and sisters there, a very personal deliverance. The Lord is setting them free from that yoke of repressive Islam so they can be freer to spread the gospel of Jesus. Amen. Can you imagine that? people in Iran openly Social media, TV, talking about Jesus Christ rather than death to America, death to Israel, yes, but uh praising Jesus, uh, being able to carry Bibles to their place of business, not being persecuted for their religion, for their faith.

And you said this off mic about how, if Iran gets right, how that would bleed into the other areas, yes. Um From my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, pastors, but everywhere Christianity has touched, that place has thrived.

So, if we have dictatorships and we have places of oppression, places of wars and conflict, the Ukrainian conflict comes to mind. Wouldn't it be nice if Putin came to Christ? Wouldn't it be nice that everybody in that conflict, whoever you want to back, or whoever's to blame for that, but if they all came to Christ, put their weapons down and had a come to Jesus moment and just say, hey, you know what? We have our differences. Like we have our differences here.

But we can live even despite our differences. I'll even quote Barack Obama. You know, hey, if you got a good quote, I'll mention you. He said that we have more in common than we have that's not alike. And even though we have differences here, we can still get along here.

So, wouldn't that be nice if Iran could do that? Place in the Congo could do that, if Ukraine could do that, and not Nigeria. Thank you for that.

So. Let's not think that Christianity is some kind of colonial, uh, oppressive um type of movement. It's not, it's a movement of love. We are the only religion that has spread amongst the billions without the sword, without violence. Right, that's right.

Um, so if you could mention about um the spread of Christianity, uh, am I off by saying that everywhere that Christianity has being introduced that is Uh That's thrived, and you'll have about five seconds.

So, mention that real quick. I think that's absolute truth. Christianity invites you to come in instead of being forced on you. Good deal. So, as I said earlier, get saved.

If you're not saved, get saved. It's the best way to be. Truth Talk Live. Thank you guys. God bless.

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