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Okay, this is South West Bonte. Long before cable news panels debated corruption. and accountability This area where I live learned a very hard lesson about what happens when government goes bad. In the 1860s, I don't know if you knew this or not, but Bannock was the territorial capital of Montana. Montana wasn't a state until many, many years later, eighteen ninety eight, I think.
And it was the territorial capital of Montana, which is not terribly far from my house right here. Um and Henry Plummer. was the elected sheriff. Of this area.
Now, there was a lot of gold mining going on in this area. Mountain is called the Treasure State.
So there's a lot of money. and at one time they say there was about fifty thousand people living over there.
Well, that doesn't sound like many people. But when you think about Montana to day has just over a million people in the entire State and the State is three times the size of Tennessee. I mean that you you're talking about a huge concentration of people in a very small area because gold, when there's word of gold, people came running. Keep that in mind, by the way. That comes into play.
And this guy, Henry Plumber, was the elected sheriff. He wore the badge. He swore the oath. He even built the gallows And according to many who lived here at the time. He also ran the crime.
A plumber and his deputies were accused of leading a gang of road agents. who robbed and murdered travelers carrying gold through these mountains to get it out of the mountains once they bind it. Stages were ambushed. Men disappeared? fear became routine and complaints Went Nowhere.
Keep all that in mind. The law appeared to be protecting the very violence It was meant to stop.
Now let me ask you something right out of the gate. Have you ever watched a system protect itself instead of the people it was supposed to serve. If you have, I want you thinking about that today, because I'm going to tell you this story here, but if you want to share what you've seen, the number is 866-348. seventy eight eighty four eight six six thirty four truth but Back then the citizens acted.
Now this is right here in our county. In eighteen sixty four a vigilante committee arrested Sheriff Plummer, and two of his deputies. There was no trial. No formal trial. No appeals.
and the man who built the gallows for this county, was himself hanged.
Now here's the Historians still debate whether or not he was guilty. They do not debate why the vigilantes emerged.
Now it's really important to notice that distinction.
Some people say, well, no, he wasn't, you know, but most of the most of the people, the old timers here, too. Headed on pretty solid ground that this guy was was dirty. But the reason they they came about with the vigilantes is because the people believed that government had become part of the threat. rather than the safeguard. and when authority no longer restrains crime, The citizens here?
Restraint. And it's not a comfortable story, but no but it's not meant to be. But it matters now, because the distance between Frontier Montana And modern America is not as wide as we'd like to believe. Minnesota is now reckoning with one of the largest public assistance fraud scandals in American history. Billions with a B Billions of taxpayer dollars intended to feed children and help vulnerable families.
were siphoned off while oversight lagged, and red flags piled up. Concerns were raised. Audits flagged problems. The system kept paying out anyway. This wasn't a single clever con.
It was a prolonged systemic failure. And here's the question I'm wrestling with today, and maybe you are too. What do you do when the warnings are raised, concerns are documented, and nothing changes. If you've been there in government and business in a church, sadly. In a hospital.
I want to hear from you. 86634 TRUTH 866-348 7884. Let me put this in a little bit more personal terms. If you imagine a medical provider. entrusted with managing a patient's Pain.
The patient is vulnerable. Dependent, unable to advocate fully.
Now imagine discovering that the provider has been siphoning off medication, not to help the patient. But uh feed the provider's addiction. How would you respond to that? It happens a lot. I used to work.
uh for the state board of health for a state back in Tennesse back in Tennessee. And we saw this with the Board of Medical Examiners and we saw this a lot with nurses and doctors who were stealing patients' medication to feed their own addiction. or somebody a relationship's addiction. and nurses and doctors both I saw lose their license because of this. The first problem is, of course, theft, and the deeper problem is the breach of trust, but the most dangerous problem.
is everyone who noticed and did nothing.
Now if you came up before the licensing board of doctors or nurses and you had a case against this person and you saw that they were doing it, but you did nothing to them and let them go back and do their the same job, What would that say about The safeguards And if you've ever been in that situation where speaking up felt pointless, even risky. 866-348-7884-866-34 Truth. I heard just from today. We were talking about this. I was talking about this guy, complete stranger, but it came up when I was checking out at a store this morning.
He said, Nothing's going to happen to these people in Minnesota. Do you think anything will happen? A government that tolerates corruption while presenting itself as a caretaker violates something fundamental. You know, this summer America turns two hundred and fifty years old. And there are going to be speeches.
Probably reenactments. Familiar quotations with the Declaration of Independence will hear again about equality. We'll hear about liberty and we'll hear about the pursuit of happiness. and those words deserve their place. But Just like with Scripture, Americans have developed a habit of quoting the Declaration selectively.
All men are created equal. Yeah, you know, that fits on a bumper sticker, doesn't it? But what fits less easily? is the warning that came with it, a warning about power, corruption, and the responsibility citizens bear when government betrays its charge. The founders didn't just announce ideals.
They warned about consequences. They wrote that governments are instituted to secure rights and that whenever government becomes destructive to those ends, it's the right of the people to alter it or abolish it. Actually, It goes even further. That quote gets... Yeah.
But the one that doesn't follow usually uh the one that follows it usually does it. And that's the one that says prudence indicate Will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient costs. We shouldn't just throw the government up into an upheaval. This one written by men who are eager for chaos. It was written by men who understood how fragile stability really is, but they continued warning.
that when a long train of abuses reveal a consistent pattern, resistance becomes not merely a right, but a duty. Do you think we still take those things seriously? Or have we reduced them? to slogans. The argument is not for vigilantes.
But the argument is to say when the people get fed up, and I was listening to the Iranian crown prince who's in exile today, and he was talking with Baer. There was an interview news news clip teasing his interview. And he said the Iranian people are fed up. with this. What about the American people?
Are we fed up with the corruption? 866-34-TRU. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.
This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-348-70884-866-34 TRUTH. We're going to go to the phone lines. We're talking about the corruption that's going on in government. And I referenced what happened here in our county of Montana, what happened here in 1864. I mean, the the sheriff and his deputies were charged with taking the gold out of here and securing it, and they were leading a crime organization that was siphoning it off and stealing it, and and also murdering people.
And they were hanged for this. And it's still a story that's told regularly out here where we live. And this is a remote area, and it sounds like Frontier Justice, but the people rose up and said, Enough's enough. And I'm watching what's happening in Iran. The people are rising up and they're saying even the Crown Prince just said that today.
Enough's enough. They're fed up with this. The question is is America fed up? With some of these things that are going on, Jamal. Good afternoon, Jamal, and Winston-Salem here.
Glad to have you with us. How are you feeling, Jamal? Yeah. I'm doing fine, Mr. Rosenberg.
Always a pleasure to talk to you, and thank you for taking my call. You're welcome. Yes, sir. You bet. What what's on your mind?
Tell me what you think of this. Mm-hmm.
Well Hopefully this doesn't sound bad, but I'll just jump right into it. If you don't like the current state of Politics. If you don't like Who your representatives are. If you don't like the structure of government from top to bottom, from the fed on down to your county down to your uh To your to use city. To your neighborhood.
Ask yourself as a Christian, especially. What are you doing to change that climate? What are you doing to influence that climate? If you're one of those, Chris will say, well, Christian's Don't need to be in politics.
Well, maybe that's one of the reasons why we have so much corruption, why we have so much division and Um Good. Negative talk. Negative uh uh pushes Uh negative influences. In our government. Do you know do you know um Anybody that doesn't vote, that call themselves Christians, say that I don't vote because I'm not part of this, that kind of thing, do you know people like that?
I don't know.
Well, actually, well, yeah, now that you mention it, I do know one or two. uh people that that that say, well, My boat doesn't matter, so you're not going to do it. Unfortunately, I do, yes. I've tried to explain to people the responsibility, the stewardship responsibility. We have to vote and to get involved.
And sometimes it meets with deaf ears from Christians. Have you found that to be the case with you? Too many times. That's another reason why it kind of got me sparked up to say something because maybe. Uh those ones that Think they Don't have a chance, maybe I can influence some others to say that you do have a chance.
Maybe I just need to hear from another Christian that does get involved. Let me ask you a question, Jamal, because you spend time thinking about the Word of God. When The story when Jesus gives the talent, it tells about the guy that gave the talents. to the three different folks. the the the wealth that they were and one of them went out and just buried it.
Do you think that that may even apply to the things we're giving in and given in life, not just our physical talents or maybe our money or whatever, but just the stewardship responsibility we have as as followers of Christ. To be good stewards of everything we've been given, including a free country that we live in. I mean, we're seeing what's going on in Iran. That you know, this has not been a free country, and we see how violent the people are overthrowing it. We've seen what's going on in Nigeria for our Christian brothers and sisters that are being butchered over there.
But we live in a place where we have enjoyed 250 years of Democracy that is befuddling to the world, even though we've had certainly our problems in this country. But Are we being good are Christians being good stewards of that? And do you see that as part of a scriptural mandate that is included in that story with the talents, that we go out and be good stewards of what we've been given? Mr. Rosenberger, you are, as they say, you are reading my mail, sir.
Okay. I have well, I have been, Jamal, and I wanted to let you know: Ed McMahon sent you a thing that you may be a winner at Publishers Clearinghouse. No, I'm just kidding, Jamal. Uh well, you tell Ed to send me that truck.
So uh yeah, that's something I've spoken on spoken on several different times. Your time, your treasure, your talent. Everybody has them if you're alive on this earth. Um co One thing I heard on Truth Network, a programmer, and they said, well, a basketball, a football, these are just inanimate objects. But you put that basketball in the hands of Michael Jordan.
Of LeBron James, of Tom Brady, now that inanimate object now gets. New life. You see amazing things that people can do with the basketball. Stu Eperson, you know, he does amazing things with the basketball.
So, what are you doing? that you have a talent for How would you giving back to the people. How are you enriching people's lives? How are you influencing? And then ultimately, how are you using your talent to glorify God?
Well, if I'm a basketball player, how can I glorify? Because you have a platform. You look at Muhammad Ali's platform. Did he influence a lot of people? He most definitely did.
And also, if you don't influence people just by your speak and your senses, People can look at you and say, what makes that person great? And then he says, to the glory of God. You know, this person, God gave me all of my talents. It's not of me, it's of him. And through that influence and your platform and your speaking, you're giving.
People can be influenced. To follow God and turn from the ways of man, which is the problem right now, we're following the ways of man, not following the ways of God. Mm.
Well, you know, I I think about just this network. We have the freedom to have a network like this. In this country. been watching a few older movies and they show things going on in in what used to be the Soviet bloc countries and so forth. And you think about how many people did not have that, and how many people cannot talk about the things of God.
In so many countries around the world. In the Middle East, you go over there. I've got a family member who's been a diplomat over there, and you can't do it. But here we can. And are we being a good steward of that kind of freedom or do we just take it for granted?
Here, we could say something about it. I love these people getting out and talk about we live in a dictatorship, and yet they're free to say that we live in a dictatorship on television, and they're not being arrested for saying we live in a dictatorship. But but in real dictatorships, if you say that, they'll take you out and shoot you. And are we being good stewards of this? And that's the question I'm asking.
And are you seeing that people are engaged and they or are they concerned? Are they want to be better stewards? Are you seeing that, Jamal? Uh Not as much as I'd like to. And I'll end the call with this because I can go all day with this.
America as a country. We are the most blessed country in history. I mean, can we wrap our minds around that? More blessed than the Romans, more blessed than the United Kingdom, where they said the sun will never set. Um and they're having some struggles right now.
So if you are an American, And you live in another country. And if you're definitely here in America, you have a platform as well. What are you doing? To push American values, to push that Constitution, which is the oldest document, the best document outside of the Bible that we have. Why are you pushing American values?
You know, don't you want to be respectful respectful of other cultures? Yes, I do.
However, What we talk about here is freedom of religion. You know, freedom to worship or not worship, but you have the freedom to do that. You have the freedom of speech, like you said, the No Kings. No matter what your demographic, no matter what your social group, You have a voice. Just those two things right there.
We can get into the Second Amendment where you can protect yourself. You want that. As a citizen, for everybody. around the world. And that's something that we as an American can push.
And I'll I'll end it right there because I don't want to get too much more into the weeds with that. No, I think that's a great place to part for a minute, and I agree with you. We do have a responsibility to protect this place. 250 years this year. It was our birthday and we have a responsibility to shepherd this great country and I feel like we've allowed, we've taken our eye off the ball.
We've been pursuing happiness, but we haven't been pursuing stewardship and accountability.
So we'll talk about that more when we come back. 866-34-TRUTH. Jamal, thank you so much for the call, for the insights, and I'm not reading your mail. Bless your heart. 866-34-TRUTH.
We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884. We're talking about, well, I've referenced in the first block about what's happened in my county here in Montana, where we had the citizens rose up and hanged the sheriff and his Deputies for stealing their gold and murdering people, and it was just a corrupt regime.
And they had been complaining, nobody was doing anything, so the people rose up. I'm not advocating. Vigilanteism, I'm just simply saying this is what happened, it's a fact. And there's a lot more that's been stolen out of Minnesota. And what are we setting ourselves up for?
How is this going to go? What are we doing here? And so I'm asking you, what are your thoughts on this? And Thomas in Chesapeake, Virginia, is on the line. Thomas, good afternoon.
Thanks for calling the program. How are you doing? Hey, Rosen, Mr. Rosenberger, is that correct? Yeah, just Peter.
Oh, Peter? Uh I just stumbled on your program. I'm coming back into my office. I'm at work, but I'm driving. And uh what I have done about this is that I wrote a book.
Called National Morality, Thinking Outside the Box, A Call to Action, Volume 1. It was published in 2007 by Tate Publishing. who went out of business because they were embezzling money or some or something. I don't know what they were doing, but they did something, they got in trouble, they went out of business, and I didn't really pursue it beyond that.
So it got some notice, but not a whole lot. It's still on Amazon.com. And the whole book is centered around a proposed constitutional amendment, which states. No federal government authority, power or court shall have any right whatsoever to usurp the right of any single state to establish its own moral standards as the local population shall see fit specifically in the area of human sexual activities, behavior, conduct and decency. That proposal came to me from prayer after praying for the Lord for America for years.
That's what the Lord gave me. I was completely plummeted by the whole thing, didn't didn't know what to do with it. Spent a lot of time telling a lot of people about it all over the country and I heard crickets I'm still pursuing it. Um I think it's important because if we had done that already, then when mister Biden was President, he would not have been able to teach fornication all over the world, and we would not have had an economic earthquake, which is what we had. We got our just do from the what we were pushing.
We were pushing fornication to children all over the world through the federal government and the State Department, and we got exactly what we deserved. In fact, we didn't get what we deserve because we deserve worse. The reason I Got concerned about this is because of Revelation. If you read about the Great War, we were doing everything that she does. And except killing Christians.
They haven't gotten there yet. But well we have it in this country we have it, but they are doing it worldwide. Right. And what did you think of the The debate yesterday at the Supreme Court. Were you following that?
I read about it. Brave late. Um I'm on the side of one man, one woman. Married, God blesses it. Everybody else, keep your pants on and behave yourself.
And that's it.
Well, this is more specifically on the transgender issue of of kids playing um Boys. saying that they're girls and playing in in girl sports. And they're well, they're not they're not their ba their foundation is flawed because if they stop taking the hormones, their own body will revert to what they were born as. That's why they have to keep taking those medicines because otherwise their body exerts what they were born as. And they can't stop it.
So they have to keep taking drugs their whole life. from then on, which means medically they're not what they say they are because they're still their birth origin. That's what they are. Also, if they're if they die in the woods somewhere, twenty years from now, somebody finds their skeleton, they will identify it correctly as their birth Second. There's no other way to do it.
So the the idea that they've changed sex is is only a convenient thing to satisfy their own ideas of what they think. They are, but it isn't true. It's just not true. It's a it's a it's a medically induced Change of satisfying the psychological or physical desires of a person. And I get that, but It it it's not real.
I can't support men in women's sports because that's ridiculous.
Well, you would think, and yet here we are arguing this in front of the Supreme Court, and you could see the exasperation, hear the exasperation in Alito's voice. Yesterday when he asked the attorney that was that was coming. That was that suing this because but ba basically what happened, I think, is West Virginia and Idaho have created a um A thing where it says, no, we're going to do this in our state. Go back to the top of your conversation where the federal government doesn't get to dictate this kind of stuff across the board to states. And I think this is what's going to come down: the federal government is saying, no, West Virginia has passed this law, and we're not here to stop them from doing it.
And it's going to hopefully create a ripple effect throughout the country where this is going to be done. But they're wanting to make this another watershed moment, like Roe versus Wade in 1973. The left is, I don't think it's going to fly. But then again, I don't know. Katanji Brown is on the Supreme Court and she seems to have a very difficult time understanding what a woman is.
She knows what a woman is. She doesn't want to. I didn't say that with seriousness. But the Babylon B, you ever read the Babylon B, they've got a pretty excoriating. thing on her today.
But it's a ridiculous thing that we're doing. But it's satisfying. Do you I heard what you said. It's a psychological and a physical thing. What about a spiritual thing?
Well, of course, the devil, you know, people that hear this, God bless you, I'm not trying to condemn you at all. But I know that the Christians believe in the devil, and he does speak to people, he does influence us. And he does get us to do things that we shouldn't do. And you can make a cartoon about it, but it's actually true. That's what we believe as Christians.
And so is it a spiritual thing? Of course it's a spiritual thing. There are spirits and there are people. And I think there's more angels than there are people. And so the devil has a lot of power 'cause he has a lot of demons that cooperate with him Uh but every Evil thought and desire has an origin.
And there's a personality or something, a person somewhere, whether spiritual or physical, behind the ideas. They they don't just pop it out of thin air. And so, yeah, it's spiritual.
Well, they they call you know, they have gender dysphoria, then they have gender confusion. Um i it's a which is not a medical or clinical diagnosis, but it's a descriptive phrase that people use to talk about, you know, how they're feeling about their gender. But who is the author of Confusion? Says the apple. Yeah.
And he's very good at it. He he can confuse anything. And we have, you know, you go back all the way back to the garden, and really, I think. You weigh in on this, Thomas. What are your thoughts on this?
Because to me, I see one. play in Satan's Playbook. All the way back to the garden, question the veracity of the Word of God. That's the one play every single time. It's always, did God really say this?
Hath God said. Did God say, is that what you're seeing as well? It's just that one consistent attack on the Word of God.
Well, that's what he tells me. That's what the enemy tells me. Did God say that? And I have to listen to it occasionally, so yeah, I I'm sure he's still saying the same thing to other people, you know. Uh I trust God.
I believe his promises. I've seen it do so many things. He's always good on his promise if, you know, if he You the enemy is just good at undermining what God says because he has the freedom to do it. And that really shows that the bigness of our God that even allows that. But he does allow it because he believes in freedom and liberty.
We have a great God, and we have a great. Save it. You know, I I look at these things and I I if you go back in history when the Reformation happened, One of the biggest issues driving that was biblical illiteracy. People didn't know what the Bible said. They had to rely on Clergy who usually spoke in a language that people didn't study.
It's not that the people were dumb or even uneducated in many things, it's that the language of the clergy, Latin and Greek and Hebrew, was reserved for the clergy, and then they were the only ones that could tell people what the scriptures say. And the church had the stance that the church dictates what the scripture says. But And then Luther came along with the Reformation and said, No, Scripture dictates what Scripture says. And Scriptura Sola. and one of the five solos.
And we had people that didn't know their Bible. And when they started printing the Bible with the Gutenberg press, and you had Luther translated into German, and it created a furor, but because we had the press, it went like wildfire with his 95 thesis, with his translation of Galatians. Then you had Wycliffe with English, and there was enormous persecution on Christians. But here we are today. hundreds and hundreds of years later, and we have Bibles everywhere.
And we still have biblical illiteracy, don't we? Sadly. People don't know what the Bible says. They say they do. And they maybe could cherry-pick a few verses, but they really don't know what it says, do they?
No, you it takes a long time. Uh prayer and Reading it. studying it to really Well, let's go to scriptures. Thy word have I hid in my heart that I what? I might not say it against the Right.
Yeah. There it is right there. That's just one of many. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. You know, and it is good that here's another one: we have the prosperity movement in the Christian world.
And they don't particularly go over this scripture. It is good, and from Psalms, it is good that I was afflicted, that I might learn thy statutes.
Now That ain't going to preach on a lot of Christian television, is it? Is that Psalm 119? I believe it is. Uh Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. I I know the Lord wants me to pick up my cross daily.
Well, he doesn't want you to do it. He commands you to do it. Right, right. I I know. And and I and I s I struggle with it.
I I try to define it. I'm still praying about that whole thing about the cross because I know I'm not going to get crucified, or at least I think I'm not. But He's not asking you to physically go get Crucified. What is he asking of us? He's asking us to die to ourselves.
And not dictate the terms of our death and not dictate the terms of whether or not God will resurrect. but to surrender completely. 100%. Very good. Thomas, it has been a treat to talk with you.
Thank you so much. Thanks for sharing about your book. And all the best to you. Drive safely. Be careful.
Be safe. And we'll talk to you another time, hopefully, 866-34-TRUTH. This is Peter Rosenberg. We'll be right back. You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.
Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-34 Truth, 866-348-78. 84. Aren't you glad we don't have to use rotary phon phones to dial the dial those numbers? I can't even speak today.
Aren't you glad we don't have to use rotary phones to dial those numbers? I remember the old days when you had to. I'm that old, sorry, but I am. 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. We're talking about the corruption that's going on.
And it's not just corruption in our government, it's corruption, period, because it is the human condition. And we see this what's going on in Minnesota and the cautionary tale that I had about our county here in Montana, where 100 something years ago they rose up and hanged the sheriff and his gang, basically, for stealing the gold of the people. There's a huge mining strike, it's just right here in our county. And they talk about this. But the greater truth, and this was both of Jamal and Thomas alluded to this in their calls, that Jeremiah wrote, The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick.
Who can understand it? The heart is deceitful above all things.
So when you hear a pastor say, trust your heart. I got to tell you, when I hear a pastor say that, I run. No, I'm not going to trust my heart. I trust his heart. I trust God's heart, not my heart.
I've seen what my heart Can do I don't trust my heart. Jesus didn't trust himself to other people. We trust other people. God. We trust Christ We trust His Spirit, we trust His Word, but we do not trust our hearts.
because our hearts will lead us into all kinds of things that are just amiss. And we may, we can justify anything. We're justify, we can justify, we're experts at this, at self-justification. And Scripture understood this. clearly throughout Scripture show in the heart of man, and the founders understood this when they wrote the Constitution.
You know, they assumed that power would be abused when they wrote it.
So they they assumed that ambition would would would seek advantage. And they would assume that uh virtue would require reinforcement. You know?
So they divided authority, they had the checks and the balances, and they made corruption harder than trusting leaders to be better, because they did not trust leaders to be better. They made corruption harder. Corruption has a way, it's like water. It'll find it'll work its way down into stuff. And here in our county.
That story of uh Um Sheriff Plummer is you know, it's a reminder of what happens when authority is trusted blindly. and accountability arrives too late. You know, the the the the lesson isn't that vigilanteism is is admirable. Hardly, but vigilanteism Signals collapse. Not health.
And when citizens, when they feel outside lawful systems, something upstream, when they feel that they got to force something. Outside the lawful system, where you're seeing these kinds of things going on. Look what's happening in Iran. Look no further. These people have had enough.
This is the the words of the crown prince who's in exile.
Okay? You can hear the whole interview with Brett Baer later on today. He said the people are fed up. And when the people are fed up, look what happens.
Now, at some point, do you think the American people are going to be? We got fed up 250 years ago. We got fed up during the Civil War. What do you think is going to happen when we get fed up again? Unchecked corruption creates pressure.
That doesn't dissipate on its own. It's not going to go away. Healthy institutions correct themselves. Unhealthy ones protect themselves. What do you think is happening in Minnesota?
Do you think that is a healthy institution? Or do you think that they are seeking to protect themselves. Do you see Open Just transparent. Hey, we're going to do a full audit. We're going to let you watch every bit of this.
Or do you see wagons being circled? What do you see? 866-34 TRUTH, 866-348-7884. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Don't think so.
Minnesota is facing a lesson right now that I don't think is limited to Minnesota, and America may be closer to this than we care to admit. You know, every summer, tourists pass through this county on their way to or from. Yellowstone Park. And in Virginia City, which is the county seat of this county now. They got uh students.
Retelling the story for summer jobs of Sheriff Plummer as history, and people stand by and watch this that are often dressed in Western attire, and it feels. Distant. It feels like, oh, that's a long time ago. But real-time news from Minnesota looks like more like reporting. and not I mean it I mean it looks like more like repetition.
Not like it's the news. It's like wow wow, we're repeating history here. A century from now, what will those students be telling about us? What would they be telling about Minnesota? And that's a good question to ask.
And if you want to weigh on that, 866-348-7884. Let's go to Robert, I believe, is on the line. Yeah. I don't know where Robert's from, but Robert, welcome to the program. How you doing?
I'm fine. Where are you calling from, Robert? I am calling from Ohio and I'm a thunderstorm. Yeah. You know, I live out here in the Rockies and we don't have any snow.
It's almost 50 degrees today. It's picnic weather in Montana. A great weekend. We have had a weak winter. But tell me what's on your mind because we're here the last bit here, but tell me what's on your mind.
So the scripture that comes to mind is Proverbs twenty eight, four. And it says, They that forsake The ma Praise the wicked. But such as keep the law contend with them. The Lord wants us to abide by the laws of the lands. And I'm coming from, I'm Mexican.
I was born here in the United States. My parents came over here illegally fifty one years ago. But the first thing that they did was applied for citizenship. And they spent almost 20 years, and I can remember. Growing up.
Going to uh the United States uh uh citizenship office in Cleveland, Ohio. As I was growing up with my brothers and my sisters in a little car, My parents came here illegally, and they were smart enough. With a third grade education, and my dad went to kindergarten, that was it. With that kind of education, they were smart enough to do the right process because they respected this land. It took him 20 years, you said.
What do you think now when you see what's going on now in this culture? And you see the sacrifice and the hard work that your parents did. They came here illegally, but they said, you know what, we're going to do the right thing. And they spent 20 years and a lot of time and a lot of work and probably some money. What do you think when you see what's going on now?
Okay. as a son of immigrants and as a son as a son of parents who actually took to citizenship that tested We went through the process the correct way. It infuriates me. to see this happening right now. Because if that's the case, then then people need to pay my my parents the money back that they spent.
going all the way to Cleveland for all these years. uh about thirty years ago. But Are your parents are your parents still alive? Yes, my parents are still alive. they just see the hype.
They just see all the stuff uh I'm a Trump supporter. I believe I fullheartedly believe that Uh the Lord God put Jim. in that position as president. to do uh to to awaken the people. And I think a lot of the majority of people are awake.
But like but these ones that are left I I play for them. I still get upset, but I pray for them because that's all we really could do. That's all we really could do. We could sit here and Continue to complain about how blind they are because honestly. I despised Trump with a passion I hated him.
But then I started realizing Why do I hate this man so much? And I was and I realized that it was the media that was making me feel that was helping me to feel that way and keeping me blind to the fact that This is not the way I should be thinking for a man I don't even know. And then I came across some of the segments, a full segment, of wh when he was talking about the Mexicans. And that of course that's going to hit me hard because I'm Mexican. But when I seen the full context of of that interview Then I understood.
what he was saying. And that kind of opened up my eyes As to How the media now Just gives you the highlights and make him look bad. And anything, it's not just with I mean, the majority is Trump, but A lot of the stuff they did they just want you to To believe what they want you to believe in the way they want you to believe it, and I've seen how they do it, and I believe. The good Lord. I'm saved and I'm Christian.
I'm 100% Christian. I'm sold out for the Lord. Um and that's that's the way that I do. I tell people about Lord Jesus. And I I like that.
uh problems twenty eight four. Only the wicked can only see. and support what's going on right now. Yeah. This doesn't make doesn't make any sense.
It does not make any sense how they're trying to support uh uh Ma Mazuro, you know, the the Venezuelan president. Yeah. You know, they don't see the the the news the news doesn't report the Lake and Riley incident, you know.
Well, listen, Robert, we're out of time. We're going up to the top of the hour here, and I'd love to have you on for two whole segments because your voice is important. What you're saying has such weight to it, and I'm very grateful that you took the time to call. I really am. And I hate that I got to cut it off, but we're out.
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