Discipling the Next Generation Worldwide

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Well, it is beginning to look a lot like Christmas out there. And as we think about Christmas, we automatically think about children. And I know, and it's always been a huge fascination of mine. The Great Commission says, Go ye therefore and make. Disciples, and some people call that the Great Commission, and so that was always been of great interest to me.

Um what what does that look like when it comes to discipling children, especially globally? How do you see that? How do you interact with that? What does that bring to your mind as far as how you would actually Take that commission that God's given you in that particular area, especially with children, especially this time of year. We would love to hear from you.

866-348-7884. Especially since we have Jonathan Brown, he is the chief global officer for Cook Media Global. And one of the things that's near and dear to his heart is this very idea of child discipleship. And so what an opportunity we have today to glean from somebody who is going around the world with this very heart. that God gave him to to reach the children.

So welcome, Jonathan. Oh, wonderful to be with you. Thanks for inviting me. We are so excited. I got to tell you, I When it comes to reaching children, I mean, that's the next generation, that's what's happening.

And so, can you kind of share? The vision of cook media when it comes to that? Yes, of course. David C. Kirk, one of our companies, has been around 150 years.

It's 150-year-old ministry. And it was formed through child discipleship. 150 years ago. And so still at the heart of our ministry. is child discipleship and uh As a company we do Sunday school curriculum.

We have a book called The Action Bible. which is um which is loved by many Uh and so for us, creating tools and training that can form a child. uh is very the very heartbeat of who we are as a ministry. And we don't just want to do that in North America or what we would call English speaking parts of the world. We want to do that around the world, particularly in areas where there's the most need and the least availability of these type of tools and training.

And so, Jonathan, I mean, actually from what I understand, you've stood in stadiums with hundreds of thousands worshiping in Africa, and you've also been in small churches across Europe, which clearly we can hear from the UK and in the US. What is God doing In worship right now, that might surprise us or even encourage American believers. Yes, so my role allows me to travel the world extensively and get to hear the first-hand stories of what God is doing. And so like Two weeks ago on the 6th of December, a week ago, and there was an event in Lagos, Nigeria. And it happens every year and there will there will be se there were seven hundred thousand people gathered for prayer and worship through the night.

It's an event that starts at seven in the evening and it finishes at seven in the morning. And they will just worship in this huge stadium, and he has an overflow stadium. I've had the opportunity to go to that event twice and just experience hundreds of thousands of people just lost in worship in that in that in that part of the world. In Africa and Nigeria. At the same time, I get to travel to Europe a lot.

And I don't know if your viewers are interested, your listeners are interested, but in the UK right now, which is a I would consider a post-Christian.

society, there's something happening there right now that is of God. And so there was a report that came out at the beginning of this year. You can Google it. It's called The Quiet Revival. And it's talking again about this Generation Z and how there's a huge surge In the UK, so in the last six years there's about two point five million to three million Gen Zs that have come to Christ in the last six years in the UK.

A lot of them are coming from unchurch backgrounds and they're just moving into the church.

So and that's just Europe. And we're seeing that in Europe, across the UK. got to move in in Africa. And then when we come to Asia, and areas like well, we call it the ten forty window, places like the Middle East. There's just extraordinary moves of God, and many are coming to Christ right now.

So if there's something from that that That you understand that we maybe have forgotten here, that you can see, I mean, like, my immediate question is: why do you think that's happening? I think that there is a place in our lives when we are desperate that God meets us. And uh I think hunger. When there's an there's a hunger to pursue him. And I'm not saying that doesn't happen here in the US, but there is a deep hunger when there's need.

there's a hunger and we're seeing that in these parts of the world. Um almost an abandonment and event relentlessness. for God to move and uh I think we're particularly seeing it amongst generations E particularly. You'll see we're actually seeing this in the US in in in the universities right now as well. And so That's always the key, I think, when people are deep, deep, deeply hungry for God to move.

Um He moves. And then once they begin to move like that, you need resources, right? And I guess that's where. That's where we come in. Right.

And so how do you come in?

So we work in areas of the world where there's most need and least availability, and we create tools.

So one of our tools is called the Action Bible. It's a graphic novel for children. covers the entire sc uh all script all scripture as a as a graphic novel. But we have it in 133 languages. And so we distributed hundreds of thousands of these into Ukraine.

We've distributed I think we're working on a million copies right now going into different parts of Arabic. And so we utilize these tools and we find ways to actually get them into. different parts of the church around the world. Yeah, so that's one of our tools. It's called the Action Bible.

And then the other tool we had is a children's curriculum. We call it life on life. And it's a unique curriculum because it's Its spiritual formation, character development, and practical skills for a child to learn about. uh about uh about God.

So it will also it will it will teach them not just Um the gifts of the spirit and like I said in spiritual formation, the gifts of the spirit, it'll also teach them about emotion and it will help them to make healthy choices with that emotion.

So we call that practical skills.

So it it holistically helps to transform a child. And so we utilize those tools and we get them into different parts of the world. Yeah. Like, wow. Yeah.

I can imagine Ukraine right now, the hunger's got to be incredible. And you have people on the ground there that can actually. access these folks? We do. We have partnerships.

Where we create where we are able to provide the Bible, the action Bible, into those partnerships and they distribute it on the ground. Yeah. Yeah, 'cause that's that's kinda dangerous duty right now. uh in a lot of places of the world, as I would imagine, especially um In certain areas where that kind of information is even just dangerous to have on your person.

So that's pretty outstanding that you guys are and again, for those who hadn't familiar with Cook. Uh media global It's cookmedia global.org, am I right? And there your website kind of explains some of the things they can do, and people could even partner with you, right? They're right. The easiest place to go to is called davidckirk.org.

forward slash radio. That's where most of the information is for people that want to partner with us.

So davidtcurt.org. is the original company that started Um started this we're bigger we're part of a bigger company now called Cup Media Global. But the original company is called David C. Cook. David C.

Cook.org is the easiest place to go. There you go. David C. Cook. Dot org, right?

Yep. All right, there you go. When we come back, we would love to hear from you questions you might have for Jonathan and what's going on around the world. Pretty exciting stuff. What a Christmas present, right?

To see how God is at work. We'll be right back, hopefully, with your calls. 866-2666. You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Globally discipling children today on Truth Talk Live.

What are your thoughts as you're thinking about this, as you're listening to Jonathan with the David C. Cook organization? How awesome that they're seeing these kinds of movements around the world. And what a Christmas present that is to all of us. If you've got a question for Jonathan or some comment about how you see this happening, it may be in our own country that you see this awakening happening.

866-348-7884. We would love to hear from you. 866-348-7884. Jonathan, what an honor to have you with us today. And I I understand that one of the words and I'm really interested in this word that that you guys like to talk about is really when it comes to seeing these hands of God move around the world, that your curators not just creators.

And so can you kind of unpack that for us, what that means? Yes.

So for us, a curator is someone that helps form and develop.

Something that brings an original idea and and and helps to uh move it from the initial idea to something bigger. And so So we work with songwriters. We have a company that's part of David C. Cut called Integrity Music. And we work with songwriters and they will Write a song.

And then we will help the song. Find, you know, we will critique the song, we'll help the song find it's the right sound. And then we'll find the right person to record the song, and so that's what a curator does. Same with books.

Someone has a great idea for a book, and then we'll have an editorial team that will come alongside it. as curators and help that song find Um Flesh it out and help it become bigger than the original idea. And that's kind of what we do in partner with partnering with creatives. Yeah. I don't know, maybe about eight, ten months ago I I interviewed King and Country and they were talking about that process as well.

And the way they described it is, you know, God kind of gives you The tune in your head, but then he allows you to create within that. Framework Um you know, your aspect of it And you get to play out what sort of he's given you this vision. And as you describe that, I couldn't help but think of the same way they describe that. But Essentially, you're seeing where what God is. Or he's given you the melody, so to speak, and you're filling out the places where you can even develop that, even amongst different people groups, right?

Yeah, it is.

So for us, a lot of it's just encouraging. A lot of people do have the original idea and they know kind of direction where they go, but a lot is just building confidence through encouragement. And just saying hey, if If you just make this little change, it could make a whole world of difference to the song, to the book. And so we have teams that I call it giving them a third ear or a third set of eyes.

so that we can actually help them formulate exactly what their vision is for their for the thing they're creating. Yeah. Yeah, and so what an amazing thing I d so it's really if if you guys got songwriters, y you you've got obviously got to have producers and the resources necessary to do all that, it obviously that's why it helps to been around 150 years, right? And so how did I'm curious, like, how did You find your way there. Yeah.

Oh, well, by the way, to confuse you, I live in Nashville, but my voice is British.

Okay.

So just for those people that are trying to figure me out. And so I was brought up as a Christian and loved the word of God and loved worship music and ended up working for a number of companies in the UK. And a decade ago was asked if I'd moved to America to continue Encouraging creatives in this part of the world, and so. That's how it worked. I was born in a Christian family and In some ways, I feel like I stumbled into this world, but I can see now as I look back on my life that God had orchestrated it so beautifully and um.

And so, yeah, and now I get to work with creatives all over the world.

So one of my favorite stories is Um in the middle of COVID. The song that really was helpful to the church worldwide was a song called Waymaker, Miracle Worker. But that song was originally written by a Nigerian lady called Sanach. Really?

So we, as a company, were able to find that song. And then find people to carry that song into other parts of the world. And so we were part of that story of finding that song and bringing it to the wider world. Yeah. I had no idea.

Really?

So that's the way maker it's it's an African song. Yeah. And so were the words or originally in a different language then? No, they she actually wrote that song in English. And one of the things that we've done is translate it into many languages.

So what the people can embrace the song in their language? Wow. Wow, and so then once you once you have that, Um Ha. You you had other resources in order to begin to s to spread it to like it was spread? Yeah, yeah, so we have different artists that recorded it, so we encourage other people to record it.

And then we also have teams that help to translate it. into other languages and then partner with other song uh musicians to record it in their language.

So that's what we do, and it helps the song travel the world, but also. What's the beauty about these types of songs is that it unifies the global body of Christ. Because when we sing it together in gatherings around the world, We all sing the same song 'cause we're all familiar with it. Wow, so That's that's mind blowing. And so as I as I recall and again, I'm not that up on music as I should be.

But wait wasn't it Leland that that made it such a hit in the United States? Yeah, so Leland. was and Levin's one of the artists that was working with us at the time. And he loved the song and decided he wanted to record it on one of his projects. And then Michael W.

Smith did a version, and lots of other artists then. Once it starts to find its own momentum, it then moves quickly. But the initiation of partnering with other people to carry the song is is part of the work that we do in curating. Um Incubation, yeah. Yeah, that that and so it's God just takes it and And, like you said, I don't know how many different versions I've heard of that particular song, but like you said, it grew legs.

But I had no idea that underneath that was this. You know Obviously, David C. Cook Company that I I'm I'm learning more and more about, but uh the neat thing is Uh you guys are working on stuff like that right right this minute. Yes, yeah, here we are. And we're working with artists and songwriters all over the world in doing this.

And so really you get this idea when worship really becomes Because I know in places like the Ukraine, worship becomes a lifeline, right? Not just a playlist. And and and they're living on that. Um As they're going through these kinds of tracks, especially the children. And so you you've you've obviously Um found a niche there And then be able to to reach them through music and through these action bibles that you're talking about.

And so do you actually have a chance sometime to interact with the children yourself? Do you have stories along that way? Yeah, so we were in so I travel extensively. I actually spent most most of October I was in Asia. Spent three weeks in India in in three in eight cities.

And so got to interact with The teams there, if not the children, directly. We do a lot of, we train tens of thousands of Sunday school teachers. each year as a as a as a company, who then can use this curriculum and build trust and Into the child's life. And so, one of my favorite stories: we were in Hyderabad. Which is in the middle of India, and One of the stories that we heard that week was a young lad, a young boy who's 12 years old called Anjou.

He'd been going to with his friends to the Sunday school. and was really enjoying it, but what they didn't know is that their parents had not known that he was attending Sunday school. And when his father found out, He was disappointed and forbidding to go. I hate to jump in on you, Jonathan, but those who want to hear the rest of this story, you're going to have to come back after the break, because I know I do. And so stay tuned.

We've got a whole lot more with. Again Cook Media Global and again davidccook.org to find out how you can partner with them. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to True Talk Live today.

Wow, what a joy it has been to have with us. Uh Jonathan. Brown with uh David Cook Uh Which is what we're discovering, is this gigantic resource for people around the world in child discipleship? And I am just kind of blown away by these stories and the information I am learning. I imagine many of you are seeing, you know, God's been at work mightily behind the scenes with David C.

Cook.org. And so when we went to break, Jonathan was describing. A young man in India that had become involved and his father was disappointed and so I'll let you pick up where where you left off, Jonathan.

So his friends invited him to Sunday school and he's twelve years old and his father was disappointed and scolded him and told him that he did not believe in that God, he believed in his own gods. and refuted him from going with his friends. But what he had learned through the curriculum was the love of God. and the love of other people. a week goes past and the boy starts to lose his eyesight.

And um And his father rescolds him again, saying that the reason why you're losing your eyesight is 'cause you've gone to this other god instead of the gods in our family. You have to understand that in Hindu there are many gods. Not just one God. And that was his religion, family religion. But the boy kept saying this to his father.

If you take me back to Sunday school, Jesus will heal me. Wow. And so they went to the doctor and they tr did all these tests and nothing helped. And in the end, his father said, I have no other option. We are going to have to go back to the Sunday school.

And when he went back with his father, his his friends prayed for him that Jesus would heal him. and over the next two weeks his eyesight was fully restored. And the story is now that his entire family is being baptized. Isn't that awesome? I mean, and then, you know, how many other people are touched by that story and and now get a chance to be touched by your describing it here on the Truth Network.

And so the numbers to me of clo of Cook Media Global are just beginning to blow my mind. And so from what I understand, Um In the Ukraine 120,000 children received that Action Bible Testament that you're describing. And so. I mean, these numbers are gigantic. 120,000 children.

Yeah, well actually that's this year. Over the last four years, it's seven hundred and fifty thousand. copies we've we distributed into the Ukraine. Yeah, for such a time as this And in Egypt, I understand 70,000 fourth graders were also gifted that, just in Egypt alone. this year alone, yeah.

But there is also we are distributing many more of that into four main languages across the Arabic nation right now. In fact, we have another set on translations in process for the Action Bible right now. Yeah. And so again, it the the idea is you guys You really are continuing to seek more global partners. We are.

We are the the opportunity to serve and be helpful to the global church and the global body of Christ is is is is enormous. But we also need to partner with people who have a little so we can reach the areas that are most needed right now. Yeah, and and even here In the Americas, right, in Latin America, there's a giant need, right? You guys are involved in that as well? We are, yeah, yeah.

So we We have this children's curriculum that we have thousands of churches that are actively partnering with us to bring this curriculum And again, the action bible is a very uh is a is a key tool that we're putting into the hands of children all over South America, both in uh Spanish and Portuguese, particularly Central and South America. Yeah. And so You know, that's one of those th things that obviously has been going on for a hundred and fifty years and um You know, we kind of stand on the shoulders of giants there. Who are some of the people that you know about that worked within Cook Media? Besides David, obviously that that You think are worth mentioning.

Well, there are so many individuals that I could mention that we've stood on the shoulders of, that I've stood on the shoulders of, and so. Um We um the gentleman that was running when I joined the gentleman was running publishing only 15 years ago as a guy called Down Reach. And Dan Ritz was a giant, a spiritual giant, and he was the guy that commissioned the Action Bible. But in his previous company, he was with a company called MathPress and he commissioned the Message Bible. And so Cook is full of extraordinary people, David C.

Cook. Extraordinary people that just have a passion to reach people with the gospel. and discipleship resources. and they all had extraordinary experiences. And that's one of the things I love about this company.

Is that it's filled with people that are deeply passionate about reaching people with the gospel. But they also are experienced enough to keep navigating all the changes that we face in society and in the world to make sure that we continually keep doing this. The best we can. Yeah. As you see that in the world right now, what are some of the bigger challenges that you guys face?

Um I mean, some of the bigger challenges is regions of the world like India, where I spent or all of October. where the church is in is in under increased persecution. And um and and th thousands of pastors are being jailed right now because of And he says, Lily in their feet out loud. And um And so the challenges all the time are in areas big areas where there's persecution and where that's what I mean by areas of the world where there's most need and least availability. There will be increased persecution from other religions.

and an outlaw Through government. but they desperately need the right resources because huge volumes of people are coming to Christ. Uh And so that's where the greatest needs are. And so for us, our area of expertise is child discipleship. And that's where we feel we can mess.

Serve the church in this moment. Yeah. Yeah, and obviously, you know, one of the big tools that I can see is these action Bibles in Latin America. And so I know. Uh if you go to davidccook.org, there's a button there to donate, and that's a part of where our listeners could be involved, right?

Yeah, yes. I mean, for s for eight dollars We can actually put an action by Bible into the hands of one of these children. And a couple of months ago, a young girl called Zida in Kenya. We heard a story where she she had a traumatic background. was was struggling to sleep through the night and was given an action bible.

and in Kenya and it became a prized possession. In fact, when the lights went off, she would go to where there was light in the room and read it. And this Bible now, you if you see a picture of it, it's falling apart because it's become the thing that she's found the most amount of solace and comfort through. And so for just eight dollars, you can give to a devotee clerk and we will make sure a Bible gets into the hand of one of these children.

Okay.

Yeah, and the Bible's Obviously, this is an action Bible, which is meant for them. And and, you know, all of us, when we had children, we had special Bible'cause you know, to make sure that it could reach them, but it's also in their native heart language, right? It is, yeah. Yeah, like I said, we have it in We have many more in trans in work the works right now, but we have 133 language translations of this Bible.

So, all the main languages are covered right now, or the majority of them. Right. And then we'll move into dialects, yeah.

So, when you think about that, $8, right? You know, you're you're you're not only getting the Bible, you're getting it into the hands of somebody that will put it into the hands of somebody that will help disciple them with it. Because those Sunday school teachers that you're teaching thousands of them, right? On how to Um because discipleship is more than just putting a Bible in somebody's hand, right? It is.

It's and that's the reason why our curriculum's called Life on Life. it's not just it's not just at all in isolation, it's someone else's life. Who has been trained actually imparting love, care, trust into a child's life? and the curriculum as a tool enable them to actually when we when we look back on that life and see C transformation. Yeah.

A partnership of both. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I love that you know obviously The highlight is discipleship and that the tools are the Word of God. And obviously, if whenever you get that in somebody's hand, it's not going to return void, but it needs to come with some kind of, you know. I was so blessed when I first became a believer to have Ted Burton who discipled me to say, now, Robbie.

You know, you need to set aside a time in the morning, and you need to, and he just began to walk. Certain places that passages. And so, what are some of the things that your discipleship? folks help the children with as they take them through that process.

So when we do our training we we teach uh we treat some some um really helpful tools like For instance, boys and girls li learn differently.

Okay.

And one of the things we talk about is when a boy is, a young boy is difficult in the in the room. and not to get angry with him, but boys like to be encouraged. They love an arm put around them and to be encouraged. And so we we we teach child cla we teach classroom management, but we teach it from a place of love and care. and drawing people into it.

And so creating trust is at the forefront of what we do. We have methodology on how we make the the actual um uh classrooms about focusing on the child and focusing on key subjects so that they can grow in their spirituality.

So the training is really tailor-made for the Sunday school teacher and then the curriculum is really made so the child child can bring formation and the two together is very powerful. Yeah. Yeah, and you can see, you know, clearly God has blessed it to have these kind of numbers. Like, man, and I think about, you know, I wish somebody had taught my fourth grade teacher that idea that Sure. Boys learn different than girls.

I struggled a lot right there, and I imagine many of our listeners were either frustrated by little boys in their class or were that little boy, however, it worked.

However, it worked. And it's a beautiful thing, you know, that you guys. have these resources and then and then there's the music, right? And what child doesn't love music? And what doesn't you know, what is Christmas without the carols?

You know, what is what is worship with without that lifeline of of singing, right? And so that's a big, big, beautiful part that we hadn't talked a lot about. Yes.

No, that's the other part of who we are because we own a we're part a part of our our ministry is david at dav c cookage integrity music We also can provide songs. Into the lives of these children, which is, like you said, is so powerful. And it's so powerful for encouragement, but it's also powerful for retention. Yeah, retention, like I mean, how many people? I just say Father Abraham had maybe many sons, and they're all out there going, yeah, many sons at Father Abraham.

So we're going to come back with one more segment with Jonathan. This is your chance to call in and ask. 866-348-7884. One more time. DavidCcook.org.

You got to check it out and partner with him. $8, man. You get 25. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Yeah.

It's all about the children in so many different ways as they are, God is raising them up to be the next generation. And we were given that commission to go and make disciples. And how can we do that? How can we pray for others to do that? You know, what an opportunity we have had today with Jonathan Brown and the David C.

Cook organization, davidccook.org, to see how God has truly given them a vision, truly given them an idea as a curator to take wonderful resources and bring them into the lives of all these wonderful children. And so when you're thinking about all this right now in this time of year, being so close to Christmas and the end of the year for several people that are looking at making an end of year gift to missions and that kind of thing. Um this is just Really, really cool to see that that you can touch a child. And so, what would how would you speak to that, Jonathan? I would say that um I was just sitting sitting here thinking about, you know, the questions you were answer asking earlier today.

And you know, there's two billion children on planet Earth today. and four hundred thirty five million of them live in India alone. And so the need is extraordinary. Um but they all need to know Jesus. And so we are building tools and infrastructure So that people can, so these children can encounter the gospel story, but also ultimately the person of Christ.

And so for me, as much as it feels an enormous task, I've also seen the individual impact of one One Bible. one teacher with a curriculum impacting these children. And they are becoming a witness to their own generation. Oh, yeah. And so.

I I believe that these tools that we're creating right now not only will impact their one child, but through the through the curriculums they're going to impact their own generation and be a witness to them.

So I just want to encourage people that Uh I can this is an opportunity to give into an area where the reaping of what we'll see will be significant. Um Yeah, and it w I our heart as a ministry is to really see a shift within an entire generation. and particularly within Gen A right now. That's so beautiful.

Well, we got Mike is in Dayton, Ohio. He's got a question or comment for us. Mike, you're on True Talk Live. Good evening, my friend.

Well, thank you. Thank you for taking my call. Be real quick. The other day, my wife, I asked my wife, I said, What'd you buy our grandkids for? For Christmas.

She said, I bought him some clothes and I bought him a Bible. And uh And then uh my son my grandkid Chases five and seven, and you know, obviously, it's a chur children's Bible. But um I I'm you know, it's touching my heart right now, and I am definitely going to give today. Um I hope listeners are listening. you know, you have grandkids and you have children around you.

Um You reach the children, you reach the family. And uh And that that's awesome. And uh that's That's all I really want to say. Oh, that's perfect, Mike. Yeah.

I got to tell you. Thank you. Thank you, Michael. It does touch all of you. You're welcome.

Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah, I I am I am because I know that like Um I get a chance to do a lot of shows with a lot of people that are giving out Bibles across the nations. But I honestly, this is the first one I've known that have given out these action Bibles, things specifically for the children. And I think it's just, I agree with Mike.

What a neat, neat opportunity. We all give these kind of kids to our Bibles to our own children. And here's something that is specifically made for these children of the nations. And Jonathan, I'm in total agreement with. with Mike that that this is really an opportunity, especially when we think about Christmas and children, right?

Yeah. I agree. Thank you, Mike. That was very powerful. Um To hear your heart move for these kids.

And I get to see them. I get to see these kids every day of every week. I talk to my teams all over the world. And for to hear someone like that call and hear the the heartfelt response. It is so encouraging to them and the work that they're doing on the ground.

So thank you. Yeah, I'll bet. You know, again, they're like anybody else. They're out there working, wondering if anybody knows what's really going on out here. Yeah.

And, And so your job, I'm sure, Jonathan, is to a great extent helping them feel seen. And also, obviously, you're getting pretty good. Precious feedback to give the organization on how best to meet their needs. And how best to pray for them.

So I know for those who may not be financially able to give right now, how could our listeners pray for David C. Cook? Uh dot org right now. For us, we're just continually seeking wisdom and discernment. Um like I said just now, the need is enormous.

and just really looking just continually our prayer Every day, my prayer every day is: God, would you bring the right person at the right time at the right place? Would you continue to give wisdom and discernment for the decisions we make so that we can make the most amount of impact as a ministry into areas of the world where there's most need and least availability for these type of tools. Yeah. Yeah, how beautiful is that? That in a way it's Jesus' prayer that to send more workers into the harvest field, right?

Um and like you said, the right person at the right time Um for the right person. And I love the fact that That these are obviously indigenous people that you're using that. Can understand the culture and understand what's going on and reach these kids. in with their own language. Yeah, they are.

They're an amazing team on the ground, and they are. They're highly passionate.

So they build trust very quickly because they're the they are their own people. And they understand contextually How to communicate and to build. long lasting trust with these people. Yeah. Right, so I did it myself during the break.

I just went and typed in davidccook.org, and boom, I was right there. And there was a donate button immediately. And so easy and so quick while you're thinking about it. You know, let God lead you, let the Spirit lead you. If you're thinking about it, just write David C.

Cook. You might forget later. Just go on and do it. And then, you know, just. Or call your wife if necessary.

That's what I always do. Say, Damn, this is what I'm feeling. Can we do this? And then we, you know, she's such a wonderful bride. And she, oh, yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it. And then we'll pray about that someday, maybe, you know, in heaven or sometime we'll get a chance to see the fruit of what God did with what little, you know, when you. When you give something to God, man, he multiplies it hugely. Absolutely. Like that song, I think about that girl in Nigeria.

She wrote this amazing song, Waymaker. And oh my gosh, did God multiply it, right? Unbelievable. Yeah. And he's just so faithful with what we give him.

Absolutely. Yeah. I am blown away. I got to tell you, it never ceases to amaze me what I don't know. Yeah.

Because I'm like, wow, look at that. I mean, it's just amazing to me what I have learned through this interview, Jonathan, how precious. I think the work is that you're doing and having Several grandchildren myself, and worked with children as a pastor myself. Uh in my own church You know, it it's just a joy to watch the light come on in those young eyes, right? And you get to see it every day.

Absolutely. Um I've never done a I've never had a uh a role which is more fulfilling than the role I get to do today. It's extraordinary. Yeah. And they're in Nashville, Tennessee, although it sounds like you are in the UK, but it was really encouraging also to hear what is going on in the UK.

We know it's going on in college campuses, and God's at work. And I love this idea of being a curator. Again, it's David Ccook.org. I've learned so much today. I hope you have David Ccook.org.

And so, where to from here, Jonathan? Are you going out of the country again before the end of the year? No, I'm not. No, I've got. I'm going to New York tomorrow to have meetings, but nothing exotic right now.

So But in the new year, we'll be traveling to South America and then other parts of the world.

So, I mean, I. I get to travel to most continent all continents each year now and uh that's one of the great joys of my life. And so yeah. That has to be such a contrast to go from South America to India to Europe to the Ukraine and see, oh my goodness. And everywhere there's probably something in common.

What would you share about the church in common in those children? Um The commonality of the church is just the love of God, the care and the kindness that He shows us all each day. One of my phrases is, I've always known the goodness of God, but it's in his kindness that I see him every day. And wherever you go in the world, they will testify to that. Yeah.

That's a beautiful thing, right?

So, you walk into this church in the Ukraine, and here come these children up wanting to hug your leg. And if you, if you're in India or you're in South America or even America, right? As you go into those schools in Nashville, you see those bright, shining, smiling faces, right, that could be so easily corrupted into hate. I was in Israel last week. and unfortunately saw some things I don't wanna I don't wanna see again.

And and I know those action Bibles in the hands of the small children Uh of those people in Israel, those people in Palestine and and other places would make such an impact that that the world wouldn't have to see some of the things that we've seen. over the last few days, even in Australia, right? That again, what we get a chance to do is light the candles. And you can do that with just $8, right? You can get one of these action Bibles.

You go to DavidCcook.org. That's David Ccook.org. My friend, Jonathan, God bless you. I'm so grateful for the time you shared with our listeners today. Keep up the great work.

Me too. Wonderful to meet you, Robbie, and your listeners. Thank you for listening. God bless. God bless.

Bye. Yeah. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.