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Some loved it, some hated it. The Charlie Kirk Memorial last Sunday? Um Man, I mean it was watched by how many How many million billion what was it? Doc. We've heard a hundred million We're watching it through various Social media platforms.
one hundred million plus. one hundred million plus. And so if you was watching it, or maybe you heard about it, or maybe you saw a highlight from it, and were very curious what what was your favorite moment? What Felt like, oh my goodness, it brought tears. Or what felt like nails on a chalkboard, right?
Was it too political? Did it upset you? Did it. make you just like, man. The gospel was presented like I've never seen anything like in my life, right?
And that was, I know. Doc, as I was talking to you earlier, by the way, we have Dr. Date, the word Carson with us today. He's on his way to the largest pencil in the world. From what I've been told.
Right. But anyway, Doc, you were moved by the way the gospel was presented. Yes, sir. Um And and multiple times, but The service opened with his pastor sharing And uh He right off the bat went straight to the most important message Charlie Kirk would want anybody to ever know is the message of the gospel. And he shared with everyone about what Jesus Christ did.
how he uh came to this earth, how he died, rose again. uh how he he now offers the gift of salvation and and right at the very beginning, I mean, we're talking fifteen minutes into the memorial service. This pastor gave the invitation, and from what you could see from the TV, hundreds of people stood up. to receive the Lord to Lord is Savior. Maybe as many as 500 or more.
Said they wanted to know the Lord. They stood up saying, I'm accepting Jesus as my Savior today.
So, right off the bat, the gospel is given, and people were saved. And I go, that is a massive win for the gospel. Kingdom of God. Devil was it ever. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. What say you? Really? If you were disturbed by it, if you thought it was too political, we would love. I mean, that's just what.
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And I know, Doc, you were particularly impressed by. Uh Perfect. Rupios. presentation right Our Secretary of State. Marco Rubio, a friend of Charlie Kirk.
The Kirk family was asked to speak and He probably gave as clear a gospel presentation. As anything I've ever heard of working at Thomas Rowe, working at Liberty University. Uh the various churches. I mean, he just Vaided as clear as possible Um so that everybody could understand again Yes, true. Charlie Kirk was involved in a political organization to a certain degree.
But Turning Point was not just about uh electing conservatives, it was about making Christ known about holding up biblical standards. And um And And probably again, the thing that stood out over and over was how many not just Uh Secretary Rubio. Yeah. Other ones of uh President Trump's cabinet Uh shared the gospel. And I wanted people to know that Of all the things that Charlie Kirk would want as in heaven right now is that people would come to know him as Savior.
Yeah, absolutely. That's an amazing thing. And we got some calls coming in. We need your call. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7844. Seven eight eight four, we got our old friend. Bucksman on the phone, Bucksman. What's saying it's good to hear your voice first, Robbie? I just want to say it was so good to talk to St.
Nick. I called him to an earlier program and I thought. Russlin, the first time I've heard. Robbie. On the radio, I'm calling in.
All right. I am so grateful. It's good to talk to you, my old friend. Yes.
So I imagine you got a chance to to watch. I don't know. I I did not watch uh the Arizona Celebration of Charlie Kirk, but I did go to a Live celebration in Dublin, Ohio. Really? And it was awesome, brother, to see this gigantic turnout.
We overfilled. This little tiny Park. That's just a public park that had an amphitheater. And We, my friend and I, had to literally stand in The landscaping grove of trees. People aren't supposed to be in there.
Right, but that's awesome. But it was just Phil. with people and the bank Ramaswamy was there. Yeah. You remember he ran for president.
Well he's running for Ohio Gov. And he gave some words, our Attorney General gave some words. But I I gotta say this, Robbie. I I'm going to go back and watch the footage. uh the big celebration there in uh Charlie's uh State, Arizona.
I was a little sad When in Darplan, Ohio, I'm one of the speakers. I didn't know their name. They weren't prominent. Um Political. figures like the Attorney General Yost and Babek Ramaslami.
prominent political figures. These were regular pastors, I believe, and other people that had been involved in the local chapters. Um Yeah. Turning point committee.
So one of those speakers said, can I get a show of hands? In this massive crowd, Who would tell? Uh genesis.
Somewhat.
So Very simple. He's asked to Oh, I lost you for a second, Bucksman. Can you hear me? Basically. Can you go back and tell us basically how many hands went up we didn't hear?
Mm-hmm. That's what I'm gonna tell you. With my two hands up Counting those two hands. I can only see five. Are you finally I only saw three hands built in that massive crowd.
Uh yeah. I was I was upset. Yeah. Oh my gosh. All of these Christians here, these all.
Can't be just plain conservative, no Christianity conservatives. Not this size of the crowd. There was over a thousand people. At this little tiny park was an amphitheater, was a band shell. that the speakers were speaking and they had a little amplification system.
I could barely hear them. They needed to pump up the barn for that massive people. But yeah, I was disheartened. And I have to call spade a spade. I'm in Dublin, Ohio at the Charlie Perkin Man.
Um couple weeks ago. Um There's no hand swept in. I was the mark went up, right? me because you know I'm always I want you to save on my hat, but Folks, in the lumberyard in Ohio, you're going to meet Boston because you're going to know it's me because I got Jesus saved. I just.
I just shared the gospel with the guy just a little bit ago.
Well, here's the good news, Bucksman. I got another friend of yours on the phone with us just for old time's sake. We got Mike. Awesome. And he might have been there.
So, Mike, were you in Dublin? No, I wasn't in Dublin, but I think that's a good idea. Oh, you ain't kidding. Uh Me and Bucksman would have been holding hands, putting them up. You know, the good way kidding, sir.
Um I I You were asking what moment in in the in the uh you know, on T V and me and my wife sat here and watched the whole thing. And the moment that really, I mean, we got to hold it right there, Mike, because you hear that music in the background.
So I got Bucksman, I got Mike, I got Dr. Date the Word. How fun is this? It'd be more fun, though, if you called us too. 866-348-7884.
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Welcome back to Truth Talk Live, over 100 million. Folks. May have seen what some say was the largest gospel presentation in the history of the world. If you're there, if you were listening, or if you were. Part of another Charlie Kirk celebration, life celebration or memorial service, whatever you attended, we would love to hear from you as well.
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7884-866-348-7884. When we left our hero, Mike, we also have Bucksman with us. How fun! And Dr. Date the Word.
But when we left, Mike, he was fixing to tell us he and his wife were sitting there. And then, Mike, go ahead. Yeah, so I didn't hear the music, but that's okay. Um Um, I'm in the you know, I'm watching the thing and then towards the end, um, Uh Charlie Kirk's uh wife is up there speaking. And at the end of this at the end of the uh her speaking, Donald Trump spoke.
And then she came up and him and her Pugs. And uh That just brought tears to my eyes. You would think a lot of the other things would bring tears to your eyes, but for some reason. That hug between them two Was like a mother, f uh uh f a father or daughter. Ugh.
And and their hug together and how much they cared for each other was, um to me, it just it just broke it made me cry. I mean, I mean, I I didn't cry the whole time and until then. And it just made me cry. Yeah. How much uh passion each other had for each other.
And um yeah, that's and uh and you know, Doctor Carson said the same thing, right? Wouldn't weren't you in on that one as well, Doc? Oh oh yeah, that that was a That was one of the most touching moments. Here's the Um President of the United States. Who was concerned?
Solely A broken hoard. And um you you really Yeah, you know uh Sometimes the commander in chief has to be the Chief could Soul war. And um I felt in that moment Um as Mike just said, Yeah. Yeah, the Tears were in my eyes as I'm watching him. Fold her.
And um kiss or cheek and, um And just let everybody know as a as a He's represented America. Uh Erica, we love you and we're we're praying for you, we're here for you. Thank you. Special moment. Very special.
What do you think, Bucksman? I I'm definitely going to go back and watch The uh the replay. brothers, um, because this is yeah, I would like to see that. Like I say, I was busy during the event. Let's pray for President Trump's salvation.
I don't know if you heard him on Fox News a couple of weeks ago. He said he's trying to. Trying to fix the Ukraine and Russia war so that he could get to heaven. And he says, I know I'm not doing too well. They tell me I'm at the bottom of the totem pole.
So I would like to say to Franklin Graham. Please go to President Trump with your Bible, open it up to 1 Corinthians 15, and show our president. How to really be saved, how to come to a saving knowledge of their Lord Jesus Christ. That Ephesians 2 says that it's not by works that we've been saved, but by grace through faith. And and unfortunately right now, Um President Trump believes that if he does good works, He'll get to heaven.
So, Franklin Graham, you're his advisor. Please take a copy of the word and go talk to our president. Yeah, and Dr. Carson, you had said something about the memorial service that kind of. was a little disheartening as well.
Well, I you know, the President, while we have that closing moment. Um I I think thank you. He may have got a little carried away. Um there's a number of people that I'm milking all good warmth. And um Yeah, I wish he would have continued.
Yeah, it's still. a number of years comments have just kept it focused more on Charlie. Uh that would be one of the drawbacks Was Sunday, but he did conclude. Very well. Yeah, 'cause I as I understand when he when he um embraced Charlie's widow, that was certainly one of the great Great moments.
How about you, Mike? Was there anything during the service that was difficult for you to watch. Uh Um no, not until the end. Um A lot of it a lot of it was, I was really surprised how. Many, many, many times that they brought up Jesus is the The answer.
to uh to eternal life. Um Um I I I love that. Um Every almost every speaker throughout the whole whole thing except Donald Trump. Um you know, and mentioned that uh the the The eternal salvation or the eternal life is through Christ. And I I I love that.
Um even Um even the forgiveness um that Charlotte Kirk's wife said, uh I forgive my um you know, my uh trespasser or the guy who who killed my husband husband. Um, that was a very touchy moment right there. Uh So it was really good. You bring up an amazing point right there. I know that made some people uncomfortable.
Mm-hmm. From a couple of different angles. And so if you're in that group, Call us. What got to you? You know, 866-348-0.
7884-866-348-7884. Mike and Bucksman, we appreciate you guys' call so much today. It's so great to have you guys back. It's like old times. Oh, it is, Robbie.
Thank you so much, Mike. Take care of things in Dayton. I'm in senior now, so hold down everything in Montgomery County, brother. And I'll take care of getting the gospel out in Greene County. You hear me, brother?
I'm high-fiving you through the radio right now. Amen. Keep up the prayer for you, Bucksman, all the time, okay? Thanks, Mike. God bless you guys.
God bless you. God bless you. We'll call in another time. I know you will. I know you will.
Thank you so much.
So So Doc Um You still with me? Yes, sir. Um So I know that that that that apology Or, I should say, that those forgiveness statements, in our original discussion that you and I had earlier this afternoon. Uh you had attended a uh A conference by Gary Chapman, and I had attended several similar where Forgiving somebody who hasn't asked for forgiveness is not necessarily um. It isn't necessarily the way God does it, right?
And that's How Gary was explaining it, and he was dealing with a kind of the component where maybe a husband is is kind of wanting his wife to give forgiveness when he's really not. asking for forgiveness. He just wants to wash over it. Um You know, when Erica offered this, and Mike was talking about it that moment. And when when it happened, I have to be honest.
That welcome. Good. See Um and talks about Jesus and how he offered forgiveness and it's like his Is she gonna And sure enough, She then said. As she she thought about That man, that Young man I forgive him. And her whole point is she's sending out a message to all of All of Charlie Kirk's followers and what would now be her followers with Turning Point.
Uh You don't respond to hate with hate. And to be able to say, I forgive. That's for her inside. Uh internally She's not going to be holding a grudge.
Now, the government has a role.
Well, Doc, I hate to jump in, but we got to go to another break. We got Rick in North Carolina. We need you. 866-348-7884. If you're in the Winston area, you can listen to us on the podcast at truthnetwork.com.
We'll be right back. You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to True Talk Live today. We're talking about the memorial service. Last Sunday for Charlie Kirk.
possibly over a hundred million people. Got a chance to see what was going on with certainly a man that had been martyred in our times. And. You know, the effect it's had on so many different people in so many different ways. We got Rick is in North Carolina.
He's got a comment for us. Rick, here on Truth Talk Live.
Okay, thank you very much for having me. I just wanted to comment that I likewise saw most of it, didn't get a chance to see all of it. I thought it was a beautiful service. But I wanted to share a couple of things. One, about the forgiveness.
I thought that was beautiful from America. I personally, that, you know, you know the old saying. When you don't forgive someone, it's like taking poison and waiting for someone else to die.
So I think forgiveness, when we forgive, it's for our benefit, not necessarily for the other person. And for the other person if we ask for forgiveness, and of course that'll be beneficial to them. But I think it puts us in a good space and keeps us walking Christ-like when we do take time to forgive. But the thing that did kind of make me cringe, to be quite honest, is when President Trump said that he disagreed with Charlie. As it pertained to loving the other side or forgiving the other side.
And his comments were: I actually hate them. I'm thinking, And he said he doesn't want anything good for them. And not just what he said, um, it's how he said it. And my concern was, you know, there are people who are looking at this and currently who are inspired by President Trump and others. And my concern is there's a similar population that might hear that and go, yeah, I hate them too.
And I think that just creates more division. I just think that we're at a space in our country where it's time to come together. together. Jesus said to not only love each other like he has loved us, but To go so far as to love your enemy. And so if we're going to live a lifestyle that's consistent with Christ, then we have to be able to embrace those types of teaching and walk it out so that we can be an example for the entire world.
And I just think that type of rhetoric does more. That's just my opinion. Obviously, that type of rhetoric does more harm than good. That's great sensitivity, Rick. I.
I did not see that. It's shocking to me. I would I would add That what it what When Donald Trump said that it was, it was like, where are you going with this? But He did say That to Erica, I would be open to listening to you. He knew that.
What he was saying was not right. And so there's a little transparency of his own heart. Of um I'm just sharing that He is angry and um Uh I d I do not think he should have said what he said, but He did conclude with he would be open to what What Erica may say to him so that he could be better with political opponents. And he does need to do better. We need to heal.
We need healing here. Yeah, Rick, I think that's an amazingly powerful observation, and I am so. Really? Uh You know, You couldn't be more right. And you're right about also that Erica is showing that example right in front of President Trump.
This man shot her husband. And exactly. And I was being, I was honest, I was talking. I'm sorry to cut you off there. I'm watching and looking at my wife and going.
Now see, what we just witnessed is Yeah. Such an example, it epitomizes. The strength of Christ in all of us. if we're willing to go there. And I thought to myself, I just pray and hope that if something I hope it doesn't happen, but if something did, I would have that same courage.
I would have that same conviction. And to take it off of myself just for a moment and know about it, and maybe share something that you know, the like I said, the hundred of millions that were watching can go, okay, so if that's what it means to follow Christ. I want to follow Christ too. Because that was not an easy thing to do. And it does show the love of Christ.
And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen, but I think she even referred to with Jesus being on the cross, that he could look out at those who crucified him. And he said, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. Exactly. And later on, Stephen would say basically the same thing as those who were stoning him. That's right.
And so You know, when you see that whole Picture, Doc. It really relates to today because today is natural die to yourself day, right? Yes, Luke 9, 23. is the day we are challenged by Jesus to pick up our cross and die daily. And uh, you know, that was Charlie Cook's life.
He made a decision one day. Uh Isaiah 6. Say Here am I send me. He finally said, Lord. Here am I.
Send me, I'm your vessel to do whatever you want. And this became part of his story. Um God used him to get the gospel to more people in one Afternoon. than at any time in human history. I've asked myself and I've asked others.
Would you want the gospel to go to a hundred million people at one time?
Well, sure, okay. For that to happen, you'll need to be assassinated. You'll need to become a martyr.
Now are you willing to do it?
Now, when Charlie had gone that day If he knew absolutely Absolutely for certain that he was going to be shot. We don't know, but what we do know is He did go knowing that there's always been people who have made threats against his life. Um so he was ready to meet God. And his last comments he's talking about there was about Uh who Jesus is. As he's as he's having debate with people and then he had sent out that text about Share Jesus with somebody this weekend.
And my goodness, the following weekend, a hundred million plus people get to hear about Jesus. Yeah, and he had died to self. And what you were saying also today, Rick, I know you're going to find this wonderful. That campuses all over America, just like just like what Buxman and Mike were talking about in Ohio, but you were talking about. Like the Pittsburgh University of Pittsburgh campus, all sorts of Things are breaking out in campuses right now, right?
Yes, I read that up at the University of Pittsburgh six. students were baptized. Not just they confessed Jesus, they went the next level right there. They wanted people to know, and they got baptized in front of their friends that they were now followers of Jesus. That is, you know, and again, it's like we live in really.
interesting times, don't we? I sure did. And You know, Jesus said that he didn't come to bring Um Peace but a sword. And that sword being the sword that comes out of his mouth, the truth, it really does separate. things and separates people and You know, so there is some hate out there.
And there is a lot of love out there. And it's fascinating to me, Rick. You bring up such an amazing point how when we receive the hate, as Charlie often did at the mic. Uh he laid his mic down. and let the people Talk.
And you gave us a great example of that today, Rick. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your call. I'll be thinking about it all day. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate you.
Let me get on. I appreciate it. God bless y'all. God bless you. Bye-bye.
All right, what say you? 866-348-7884. 866-3888-8888-8 Three four eight seven eight eight four What touched you what you know, felt like nails on a chalkboard to you. And honestly, I I That's kinda scary to me. uh doc that that President Trump would um say such a thing.
Oh yeah, I ate. It's pretty clear he went off script right there. But as I explained, as I watched it, he did. He even looked up and said, I know Charlie's angry with me right now on what I just said. Um and he and he did admit You know, hopefully, Erica, I'll be listening to you.
Um But he's also expressing If we Get very honest here. What happened there? Um On September the tenth has made a lot of people angry. I know myself, I had to work through anger. Um Because I I I I just couldn't believe Somebody would take the life of this man.
Uh but The other side is you work through that anger. and and realize that This is a man that needs Jesus. And I saw something, it wasn't at the memorial, but a person put out. uh a picture Uh Charlie Kirk. We should Leaving Tyler Robinson into heaven with these thoughts.
That if Tyler Robertson repented of his sins and called on the Lord Jesus for salvation, Charlie Kirk would be the first one to welcome him into heaven. And I thought, you know, that's that's probably true. That's absolutely beautiful. Yet you wonder about how many Christians. We're in heaven.
Who were sent to heaven. because of a guy named Saul. who then became the Apostle Paul. And There came that day when the Apostle Paul was martyred. what was it like for those Christians that he had martyred when he showed up in heaven.
They had to be thrilled that his life had been changed, and you and I have talked about this. One of my big prayers right now is for the people that. are cheering the death of Charlie Kirk They will get saved. Saul was consenting. He was cheating.
Yeah. for Stephen to be martyred. to be killed. And then he himself gets saved. And so I'm just praying that Saul's will become Paul's.
Yes, we got Trish is in Ohio for us. Trish, you're on Truth Talk Live.
Okay, thank you. I had three thoughts. Um, maybe four. But the first thing was That I thought Liz, I watched the whole thing. Um and the music I I watched another section of it today, and I really believe that The Holy Spirit had just engulfed that whole place.
and that it is still the Holy Spirit is still being poured out.
now um because they had the same Reaction the same effect. and the same emotions when I listen to the music today. Yeah, I was like the goosebump. And uh so to me I think that the Holy Spirit was very much An out pouring there and I think it's still Happening now, you know, sometimes you feel you lose that effect. if you hear it later because you've already heard it once.
But, um.
Well, it's funny that you mentioned that because you know. Interestingly, Dr. Carson and I were talking about the goose pump factor earlier today. But I remember when I went to see the movie, the the original chosen one. I literally almost had to leave the theater.
I was crying so hard because I was overcome by the spirit. And later, I had a similar experience. But we got Trisha's got a whole lot more for us. We got to stay tuned. We need you, you can call us.
You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to True Talk Live. Today's question. Uh went through. In view of Charlie Kirk's memorial this weekend, if you had a chance to watch it, it started at.
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7884-866-34 TRUTH. Tricia, that whole thing with the. I love that you perceived that. And you still are sensing that feeling. Brandon Lake is exactly the musician that I was so affected by when I watched the shows in that time.
Uh and he was in that Christmas special same same kind of thing. I Um He hit some notes in that that just Just floored me, really. Yeah, they did. And I think the Holy Spirit For me has tied all the way in clear down to the conversation of of uh President Trump. When Erica I'll go to her next because she was the one who spoke next before.
President Trump. And Her forgiveness of the assassin. you could see that deep struggle in her. She's only had eleven days to grapple with it. And but in her spirit And you cannot do that.
Without The Holy Spirit And the grace of God. Pouring into you. And I know that personally because. Um not on the same level as her. But like I was molested as a child.
And it was my stepbrother. And He passed away last year. And I Was able to forgive him completely. There's no animosity, no hatred. I was actually begging people to go to him.
and making sure that he made a confession And so that he would not Um you know, have to die with that in his heart and to let him know that I had forgiven him.
So that is just the grace of God and the Holy Spirit taking control of Erica. And that memorial. Because to be able to do that in your own strength never happens. Right. It's copy.
I listen to President Trump. You know, when he's saying that I you know, I'm glad she can forgive you. He's like, I hate them.
So Not to make this about me, but there was that turmoil in me at a time that I had to finally come to and grapple with. Because I'd I had this hatred But I had forgiveness And like Trump you know, he wants to be known as a peacemaker.
So a peacemaker usually doesn't have deep seated hatred. Go. going back to this here, you know, I had this turmoil in me. And after much you know, prayers and asking and seeking the Lord what it was. For me, it was revealed over time because I did have a hatred, but I also had forgiveness.
And it came through that I didn't hate him anymore. I hated what he did. I hated the sin. But I didn't hate him. And it To me, you know, Trump may not be there yet.
I hope he gets there so that And it does say there is a time to hate Um So I think there's that distinction that maybe Trump's not there yet, where it's like. I don't really hate these people because I want peace. But I hate what they're doing. I hate what he did to Charlie. And you know, he may not be there yet, but I know I had that turmoil in me.
And then I had great peace because it's okay to hate the sin. You know, that's a beautiful understanding. Really, Tricia? I mean, it's something you're teaching me as I'm listening to you. I'm like.
Wow. That is really inspired. But of course. Y you got that through a lot of tears, I'm sure. Oh yeah, and I didn't have eleven days.
I mean, I grappled with this. with with sheer hatred and You know such a deep, deep heartache. You know, I had fifty years. Do get through that and to work through it. And for her to be able to come through that in eleven days, and you could see her back up and when she went down, she was praying for help.
Yeah. Do the forgiveness. And and she's still gonna have to go through things. She's still gonna have waves of emotions and waves of hatred, but I think The outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God. is going to give her the strength to hate that sin and what happened, but not hate the man.
Wow. That's beautiful.
Well, go ahead, Doc. Uh I've kind of looked at this kind of like a Pearl Harbor moment. Um I I don't want to hate the Japanese people. But at the same time There's something that has happened that means we have to respond. To it.
And um Chris, your words are so profound. Um it is, it's not hate the center It's it's Hate the in. And uh And we said earlier, What if Todd? Tyler Robinson would get saved. Yeah.
Wouldn't that be one of the greatest things?
Now he still has to. be dealt with from someone who's done something cruel And there there is a punishment. Right. I want to see him save. I want to see him come to know the Lord as Savior.
Right. And just like Jessica or like Erica said, on the cross, you know, Christ forgave the sins. dinner. But the center Bill was given punishment. He wasn't he wasn't The punishment wasn't taken away from him.
But he was forgiven and he would be in paradise.
So Yeah. you know, for the assassin, Where is his heart right now? You know, Erica and those children are going to need a ton of prayers and support. And he will too. Who's going to speak that truth to him?
The greatest thing that could come out of this. And it would be God's Great. Glory. And grace. being poured out Is this Erica would be the one to go and preach the gospel to him.
Yeah, that would be a a beautiful thing.
So you said you had you had three or four when you first started. I want to make sure that you got a chance to say some of the other things you were thinking about. Um I just really believe that uh you know, but while praying for Erica when Like when I went, and like I said, I don't want to put this about myself, but when my brother was dying, Um he didn't know I was in the room. And He he was couldn't talk, couldn't do anything. But When he heard my voice, There was a loud moaning.
and stirring in him And I had This, I can't even describe what it was, but there were goosebumps, and there was this almost like a message from the Lord. of that He was asking for forgiveness. And so in my There were there were so many other people in the room that I really didn't have a chance just to go talk to him. Hindsight, I wish I just would have made my way up there and just did it. But I really believe he was saying he was sorry, and in my spirit I had said, I truly forgive you.
And I was you know, I was his first Um Victim.
So, you know, I just think that would be. Such a Huge Shout out to guides. Um And and w is that going to happen? But if Erica would be able to go to him and say Charlie would want me. To Go.
And Tell him the gospel and hope that he is saved because she said, I don't want that on me. You know, like the state can make that decision.
So Whether she can do that or not. Um, I didn't think I could go and look at My my predator. But by the grace of God, He gave me the strength, He gave me the peace and the calm. and I'll never regret it. Because I truly believe that he asked for forgiveness because I had such.
an overwhelming amount of peace. And I'm I could sense. When I would even walk in a store and he would be in that store, I would know it before I ever saw him. Because our spirits were at battle. Because his spirit was definitely at that time evil.
Because it wasn't only me, there's a lot of little girls that was attacked. I should have This time I didn't have any of it.
So You know, I'm just saying That that would be such a triumphal triumphant message from the Lord. And he would be given all the glory. I think that's beautiful, Trish. I'm so glad, so very glad that you called. It was very powerful.
Again, I'll be thinking about it. Here for days. Really, really powerful stuff. Thank you so much for your call today. It was amazing.
You have a wonderful thing. Thank you. You too. That was Well, Doctor, date the word Carson. It's been.
Quite a bunch of calls. We might still have time for you if you want to get in. 866-348-7884. Just a moment or two, but. Doc, I got to tell you, we got some real insight today, didn't we?
Well you sure did and And I'll show you. Share one other thing that really hit me. Uh was the call from the people at turning point to put on the arm of God. Um I think that was said by three or four different people. And I thought that was very interesting that they're recognizing that what's going on here is not a Earthly battle.
It's a spiritual battle. There's evil in this world, and for us to stand against it, we've got to be armed with the armor of God. We've got to know the truth. And I I think we're going to see over the next couple years. There's going to be a greater dive into the Word of God.
To know what God has to say and to find out right off the bat that God loves. We got to go. Thank you, Doc. I agree. I agree.
You have a safe trip. And thank you all for calling in today.
