Revival

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that changed your life or Your church, maybe, your community, what happened and what made that unforgettable? We'd love to hear your calls, your testimonies. 866-348-7884. The number to call in and share, 866-348-7884. There was a time.

when the sawdust trail led to salvation? when tents were packed, altars were full, and the air was thick. with the presence of God. Preachers didn't need fog machines or fancy lights. They had fire in their bones.

Testimonies rang out. Neighbors got saved. Prodigals came home and entire towns were shaken. We called them revivals, and maybe you were there. Maybe you saw it.

But where is that fire to day? Did we leave it behind, or is it just waiting to be rekindled? How about you? And you think revival, what do you think? We would love To hear your thoughts about revival today.

866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. And I'm sure you're not shocked to know that my partner today is Dr. Date the Word Revivalist. Yeah. Carson, and Doc, you yourself, it changed your life forever.

It changed my life. There was an announcement made at Crispal Bible College that. First Baptist Dallas is having a one-night revival. A Tuesday night of all nights, a Tuesday night, Dr. Bailey Smith's going to be preaching.

You don't want to miss it. And the reason it was a Tuesday night is Bailey Smith had come down from Oklahoma City to preach in chapel. And Dr. Criswell had this burning passion, that man has to preach. for me, the church, not just in chapel.

And so on that February the 15th, 1983, I heard the gospel so clear. and convicted so soundly that I'd never been born again, I got saved. I was saved at a revival service. Wow. I mean, just wow, to begin with.

And of course, maybe you had such an experience, or maybe somebody in your family had such an experience. You know, I'm certainly curious. When you said that, well, it sounded like you were in a Baptist college, you were in some type of theological study and you weren't saved? Yes, I was at a Bible college and. I have been raised to weigh my salvation.

The good works, the bad works. If you can get more good works, it'll outweigh your bad works, and you'll be okay. And I was working for my salvation. I had a works-based theology. And I had a guy ask me, he said, Dwayne, If you died right now, do you know for sure you're going to heaven?

And I said, no, nobody knows that. He said, you d you can know.

Well, I didn't believe that. I I felt like I had to keep working at it. And I did. You asked that question.

Well, Dr. Chris will, I went to see him and I asked him, I said, Dr. Christopher, I'm in a Bible college, but I know last night I got saved. Can you help me understand this? He said, Son, you've been working for your salvation.

From now on you'll work for the Saviour. And he was right. I mean, I had never been born again. I'd never called God Father. until February the 15th, going into February the 16th, about midnight, going into the early morning, was when I got saved.

And for the first time in my life, I said, Father, and there was a guy who said, I knew you were never saved because you never talked about God with a relationship. It was always about someone that was far distant. He said, I've been praying for you. And here I am at this revival. And I got saved.

If this happened at midnight, I'm guessing that the revival was fairly late at night. Oh, well. Yeah. That night at First Dallas, there was probably 100 and some people got saved. There were other students that got saved.

Robbie, I led two people to the ward that night. I wasn't saved. Oh, you weren't saved. I wasn't saved. And I'm thinking, I need to get saved.

And I'm leading other people to the Lord. I knew how to do all the religious stuff. And that was part of the message. You can be very religious. Cornelius, very religious.

Nicodemus, very religious, but not born again. And I had never been born again. But on february fifteenth, nineteen eighty three, I was born again. Wow. What a story.

you know, you can't help but You know, think that that A a lot of people listening are thinking, yeah. Yeah, that happened because I went one hot August night with the leaves hanging down.

Well, later on, I would preach revivals back home, and my sister got saved. Two of my best friends got saved. I didn't know. When I was preaching in those revivals, what God was going to do in their lives. Right, so do you remember?

I'm talking to the listeners now. Do you remember? Right? A revival that changed your life or your church, right? And, you know, these things.

aren't as common as they once were, Doc? They're not. And I I'm I'm a little concerned about that. We we're finding that People just don't have time. for this well they don't have time for god and and there's a pendulum i i There seemed to be a day for, as I was growing up, that it seemed like you were supposed to be in the church every time the doors were open, and it seemed like the doors were open all the time.

Well, I. I think we've gone the other way now. And we're s and we're beginning to realize that churches can use these types of revivals. I got a good friend up in Amherst, Virginia, Clifford Baptist Church. He sees it as a way of stirring his people up, not just for another emotional, but to help them stay focused as they head into the fall, because the fall becomes a harvest time.

We think about the spring being a time of planting. We've got Easter. You're sowing, but now you start having, you know, First Dallas would have what was called Roundup, and you want to get people back into church. They've been on their vacations, and all of a sudden you start seeing that inviting of people. Let's get back to church and we head toward Christ.

Christmas and really focus our attention on what kind of Christian am I going to be? Right. And that idea of many revivals, right, they were. They put up a tent? Yes.

And it was not just Sunday. It was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. In other words, they did them. All during the week with numbers of different preachers. When you think about our start of our country, you know, with Jonathan Edwards, you've got George Whitfield before the Revolution.

They believe that 80% of Americans living on this continent heard George Whitfield preach at least once. And he was a revivalist. He called people to repent and live differently.

Well, then John Wesley comes along and same thing. And he's church planning. The reason you got Methodist churches all over even to this day is because John Wesley came and he had that passion. We have to start churches. You can't just have people getting saved.

They've got to have a place for them to go. They've got to have a pastor. And wherever there's a town, there needs to be a church. And off it went, right? And so I know this is touching a chord somewhere, right?

And we would really love. Yeah. You know, every time you share that story, it rekindles the fire in somebody else's story, right? Because your story is unique to anybody else's. And so we would love for you to call us: 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884.

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A revival that changed your life or your church? What happened and what made it unforgettable? We would love your calls. You've got to call us 866-348-7884. 866-348-7884.

We have Rick Gage is in Atlanta. Rick, you're on Truth Talk Live. Hey, buddy, how y'all doing? We are awesome. We're doing great, Rick.

Talking about your heartbeat, revival for the world.

Well, I was listening to a sermon by Louis Drummond on this very subject, Duane, and he said that revival.

Some people call it spiritual awakening. is the return by the people of God. to basic New Testament Christian experience. Jesus Christ is a glowing Glorious reality. and that believers lie.

You and I remember doctor Elmer Towns, And Elmer Towns once said that Revival is returning back to the early days when you first gave your heart. and your life to Christ.

So God knows the church. Capital C. The church needs Revival.

Well, Ricky You know, my dad Freddie was in this work for about sixty years. And he would not go to a local church to conduct a local church revival, local church crusade. unless that local church paid the price to prepare to reach the unsaved and the unchurched in that community. That was learned a revival, wasn't it? That is the key to having a successful evangelistic outreach event.

It always boils down, and the Graham team will be the first to tell you this. It always boils down. to leadership and preparation and prayer is part of preparation. Absolutely. You were just here in this area where Truth Network is based at Mount Erie.

You had a tremendous revival there. How has your ministry this summer gone as far as these different week you do it about Frid Sunday through Wednesday, I believe. Yes, we start on Sunday night and we go through Wednesday night, but we'll spend a year putting together that Fortnite campaign And again, I just was on the phone about an hour ago with the director of missions here in Georgia, and they're willing to do a large scale evangelistic campaign. in the the middle part of the state of Georgia next fall. And I said we need to be coming in there probably in the next thirty, forty five days to meet with pastors, lay leaders, business leaders, community leaders, et cetera.

To cast this vision and begin the process of putting together a leadership team. And over the next nine, twelve months, we'll make six to eight trips into that area. In partnership with that local church, all the local churches. Uh in that area. To reach the unsaved, the unchurched.

And we're finding Duane in so many of the areas that we're going to. across the country, anywhere from seventy percent to ninety percent of that parish or that county is unchurched. We call that a mission field. We just came from Denham Springs, Louisiana. We had a fortnight evangelistic crusade in their high school stadium.

We had nearly fifty churches involved in the effort. The starting quarterback for the LSU Tigers, Garrett Nussmeier, who is a preseason. a Heisman Trophy candidate gave us Christian testimony for us one night. We had one of the Duck Dynasty family members, Al Robinson, gave his Christian testimony for us one night. But we had over thirteen thousand in our total attendance over that Fortnite campaign.

over one thousand three hundred decisions for Christ, And we spoke to over 8,000 students in the public schools there in that Livingston Parish region. But the director of missions, Richard Blue, told us when we first met with them that ninety percent of Livingston Parish at 170,000 population. was unchurched. And we're finding that to be the case all over the country.

So We all agree the need has never been greater. And uh We we we Totally believe that revivals still work if You work at it. You gotta work at it. Winning souls is hard work, Duane. Yes, sir.

And uh the devil fights winning souls more than any other thing.

So we have just learned over the years the key to these evangelistic revivals, these evangelistic crusades. always boils down to leadership and preparation. You remember doctor W. A. Cristwell?

Well you better believe I do. He was saved As a result of a revival at the First Baptist Church of Dalhart, Texas, when he was an eight-year-old little boy. And Dwayne, he was the only the only decision of that revival.

Now tell me revivals don't work. God raised up W.A. Criswell to be one of the great pastors the world's ever known. He for fifty years plus Was the lead pastor at First Baptist Dallas, Texas. Dr.

Billy Graham was a member of First Baptist Dallas. And there's a college today in Dallas, Texas called CRISWELL College. Only heaven can measure the impact that's been made over the decades because. A boy by the name of W. A.

Crystal went to a church revival one night. got saved and God raised him up to be a great giant of the faith. For the glory of God. Tell me revivals don't work.

Well, Rick, I'm thrilled for your call today because I believe you're one of the catalysts for reviving revivals. That's a good cool word. That's a cool word.

Well, thank you. Rick, we appreciate your call very much today. Wow, Rick, yes. Thank you for calling in.

Well, let me leave you with a quick quote by Billy Graham. We all know Billy Graham. Listen to this quote by Billy Graham. We've gotten too busy for God. That's the devil's goal, is to get us busy doing good things, but not the main thing.

I just want to remind your listening audience, the main thing is reaching the lost. And Jesus said in Luke nineteen, ten, his mission on earth Was to come to seek and to save that which was lost. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Thank you, Rick. Yes, thank you, Rick. We got Matt is in Virginia. Matt, you're on Truth Talk Live. Hey guys, it's uh good to talk to you.

It's great to have you back. Matt, tell us what your thought is when it comes to the need for having revivals in the local church. I believe that there's absolutely no doubt that. It is a great need. I have served as an evangelist for over 20 years now.

And pastor to serve pastoring pastors, I guess you could kind of say. And I see a great need, but I also not just see a great need. I see a great hunger. that pastors and that churches actually have for this. But I think it comes back to a key point that Blaine, that you made earlier, and that is that.

Many really don't seem to think that it is a need, so to speak, or it is something that is going to work today because this is a new day. And so they're not always interested in doing so. I just heard Rick make mention that revivals work, but you got to work in order to have the revival. That's right. And the scriptures are loaded with the idea, right, Doc?

Oh, yes. I mean, Psalms 85, verse 6, we've been looking at that one. Will you not revive us again that your people may rejoice in you? And there's a plea for God to do a work, but you've got to be at the right place. You gotta be at the right place.

Absolutely. I think it's in Lamentations 5, if I'm not mistaken, where Jeremiah says, Turn us back to you, O Lord, and we shall be returned. renewer days as of old. I think it was Nance Abner, Dwayne, who said, Revival is simply falling in love with Jesus all over again.

Now, I like that.

Now, Vance Hafner, we've probably got listeners who have no idea who that is, but boy, was he a revivalist. And yes. Revival. Absolutely. Falling in love.

With Jesus all over again. Oh, we got to go to break. Matt, can you stick with us here for. A couple minutes till we come back. Absolutely.

Wonderful, wonderful. And how about your calls? How about when a revival touched you or your thoughts on the subject? 866-348-7884. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

Today's question: Do you remember? A revival that changed your life or your church. Or what happened that made it for you unforgettable, something that... Happened along the edges of a revival. Maybe it was your own life.

8663. 348-7884-866-348-7884. Right before the break, we've got Matt in Virginia and Doc, you've known Matt a good while. I sure have. Matt was one of my early students at Liberty, and he has a ministry as an evangelist, and he's out in different churches.

Um And Matt, you've kind of have made that more your ministry where Rick is doing these... We would call them crusades in in in small town America, you're still going out on a Sunday morning and preaching in a local church. And talk to us about, again, why is Why are you needed? That's what I want to know. Not Matt Wilkins necessarily, but why is the church in need of someone like you?

Well, I think that if we kind of circle back to what we were talking about before the break there. Think about this, think about our appetites, think about everything that we are inundated with on a daily basis. God's word says, Jesus himself even said, Blessed are those who hunger and thirst. For righteousness' sake. Oftentimes, we hunger and thirst.

Here's the question: are we hungering and thirsting after righteousness' sake? Are we hungering and thirsting as a follower of Christ? and pursuit of him. Or has something come up? Has something come in?

Has something taken precedent? Over that hunger and thirst for Christ, His Word, the gospel, the church. of serving him, living for him, holiness. growing in our faith, worshiping Him, exalting Him. or has something else take in that place.

Uh yeah. idolatry. Whenever that you look at the seven churches in Revelation, there are commendation given for a couple of them, there's rebuke. Give him for several of them. One of the churches, Dwayne Du Nova, said that they had left.

They're first. Love. Uh you know, that that this one had grown Uh neither hot nor cold, but They were tepid. H have we left our first love? Yeah.

Have we grown tepid in our walk with Christ? What's the what's what needs to happen? There needs to be a refocusing. there needs to be a recommitment. There needs to be repentance.

What does that lead to? That leads to revival. And so as a follower of Christ. Um God is able, God desires for that close. Fellowship with us.

Now, here's the deal: if I come into a place, I often tell people: now I don't have a revival suitcase. I I I'm not I don't have a a a stack of messages, so to speak, where that Oh man, this one worked in Atlanta, and man, this one worked in South Carolina, and wow, this one worked in Kentucky, or this one worked down in Texas. No, that's not going to be the case. Rick talked about preparing the ground, but whenever God's people are hungering and thirsting and desiring to hear from him, you can guarantee this. that he is going to speak into the heart and into the life.

Of his people. Revival is not for lost people. Revival is for God's people. They've grown cold and different. Tepid and potentially just kind of going through those motions.

And I believe that we would all agree. that we've all been there. Yeah. And maybe to get stirred back up. Give us that quote again from Vance Hafner.

What real revival is. True revival is, in essence, Habner said, is nothing more than this, and that is, revival is simply falling in love with Jesus. All over again, yeah. That's awesome.

Well, Matt, thank you so much for your call. Awesome, we appreciate it a ton. Thank you guys, and you have a great, great week. God bless. We got Nick is in Jacksonville, Florida.

Nick, you're on Truth Talk Live. Yeah, so I it's almost like a two-parker, but my first one was we were on a mission trip to Honduras. And we went to Harnuris. We're doing the missions trip And somebody said, Hey, there's a crusade. they're having.

And I was like, Yeah, dude, I'm ready. I wanna go. I want to get hit and broken for Jesus. Let's go. And I got there and I remember thinking like, Lord, I need you.

Where are you at? I wasn't living right before I left. And um I'm seeing these people travel to get to this crusade that Not just by car or bus, but people walk miles and miles to get this crusade. Wow. And they're upfront, giving their life and.

crying their eyes out, loving on Jesus. And I'm like Lord, I need you. Where are you at? And he. I didn't really feel it.

I really didn't Um experience what I wanted to experience, like God intervening in my life. and I get back to the States And I'm kinda bummed out and I'm I'm I'm frustrated and my my local church Doing uh like a crusade as well. And my buddy comes and he's like, No, no, man, you're going, you're coming with us And I was like, I don't really want to go. I I really didn't feel nothing this in Honduras. And anyway, I ended up going, I'm in the back with my arms kind of folded.

And I felt the spirit just come on me. And I I say, you know what, Holy Spirit, I allow you to come in I allow you to just beat up my flesh that doesn't want you here right now. And let me tell you, God showed up big in my life, and it was that crusade that did it. And the whole time he was telling me It's great that you went to Honduras and did our work, but You don't have to go to Honduras to find me. I've been here the whole time.

And it was really cool to see my church Have that crusade and that opportunity for me. I'm not sure. How many other people had that? chance that I did, but I I I definitely felt his love and presence when I was there and changed my life forever. It's really cool.

That is so that is wonderful. It's so cool that the way that he orchestrated that And I hope for a lot of people listening that Um yeah, go do the stuff. Yeah. But to really get that to that place where you you got to where he came in, um But Okay. can be right there in your own church, it can be right there in your living room, honestly.

That that if when God decides to grab you, you got a Bible right there. He's all over it. Yeah, I mean, just like the the person said before, It really had to just fall in love with Jesus again. And I don't think I was ready at that time. Because I was so focused on myself in Honduras that when I got back, It was truly just falling in love with him and that's what really did it, which was cool.

That is cool, Nick. God bless you. I am so grateful for your call. It makes our day, really. I know it does for you too, Doc.

It sure does. It sure does. So, let me ask you a question, Nick.

So, you know, I've heard. you know, clearly we had two different we had Rick and then we then we had Matt, and Rick seemed to it was the revivals aimed at lost people, but Matt seemed to be revivals aimed at the church. And so from your perspective, Nick, it sounds like you're thinking revival is more aimed at the church, right? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's definitely for lost people, but I think it shows up at you know, at the church with the people there too.

I mean I was willing to go do the uh Lord's work, but even though my spirit wasn't ready, When I got back locally, it's for the church too, I believe it.

Well, it I think there's a word as I look at it. Uh It's the word Ayan. It's for the church. to they'll Get back to reaching the lost.

So this then becomes Part of the revival is evangelistic, but you do have A focused, like last year when I was preaching in this revival, I was focused on. They first gave themselves to the Lord. 2 Corinthians 8:5, verse for today, from the day of the word. They first gave themselves to the Lord. So, somewhere along the line, a believer's got to make some decisions.

I'm saved, but am I really going to put Jesus first? From that then comes.

Okay. How do I live it out?

Well, part of my living out the Christian life is being a witness.

Now, who's lost that I need to see saved? And you can have in these revival services, or you can have an evangelistic service. Rick's more geared to we're going to have an evangelistic crusade. We revive the church to invite lost, and then through that, lost people get saved. And just as a technicality.

you know, just jumping on in here because I can't. When you think of the word revival, how can you have a revival if you first haven't had vival? Yes. So it would appear that it's a combination kind of thing that as God revives, like, you know, what is that Corinthians? I mean, what?

2 Chronicles, if my people who are called by my name. If my people, that means they are saved. Right. Like the letters to the churches are to the churches. That's right.

They repent of losing your leaving your first letter. Rick, you really helped me, you know, kind of hone in on clarification for this. You're so helpful today for your call. I'm just so grateful. You have a great time today, my friend.

Yes, sir. Thank you guys. God bless. Yeah. What are your thoughts?

How about you? Have you taken part in such an event? Maybe you prayed for it, maybe you're on the prayer team. I love the preparation that goes into that, the planning and those kind of things. And your thoughts on what does it mean and how important is it?

It's a neat thing when you see a church come alive. It's a neat thing when you see. any disciple, if you've seen it, and I hope you have, I hope you've seen it in your own life, when all of a sudden they hunger for God in such a way that You know, I've got this um Dachshund, her name is Ruby. And this Sunday morning, I was trying to get a message, and God gave it to me this way: that dog was wanting to get fed. And because of that, it was jumping up around doing circles.

But that's always what it does when it wants to get fed. And as I was sitting there watching Ruby go into her dance, it's only a seven-pound dog, a little baby toy dachshund. God said, That's it. That's it right there. that kind of hunger, like man You know that, there you go.

And I loved what Matt said about that, that we do have a hunger. But what is that hunger for?

Some people right now are so hungry for money.

Some people are so hungry for pleasure.

Some people are so hungry for stability in their lives. And these become the things then that cause us to miss out on God. Because we are hungry for the wrong things. And so a revival can get us refocused. What say you?

866-348-7884. We love your calls. 866-348-7884. What about revival? We'll be right back.

Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today's question, do you remember revival that changed your life? Or your church. You know, what happened that made that unforgettable? I like this.

Sentence here. It says, There was a time when sawdust trail led to salvation, when tents were packed, altars were full, and the air was thick with the presence of God. Preachers didn't need fog machines or fancy lights. They had fire in their bones. Testimonies rang out.

Neighbors got saved. Prodigals came home, and entire towns were shaken. We called them revivals, and maybe you were there. Maybe you saw it. But where is that fire today?

Did we leave it behind? Or does it need to be revived? Do we need to revive revivals? And that's, I think, a serious question that churches have got to ask and answer. And one of the reasons that we're doing this show today, Doc, is you have a friend in Dallas that unfortunately had a death in his church and couldn't call in today.

In Amherst. In Amherst, Virginia. In Amherst, Virginia slash Texas. I'm sorry. But anyway, he had texted you a message that he wanted to share on why his church was doing it.

Yeah. Jeffrey Campbell, he's a pastor of Clifford Baptist Church. In Amherst, Virginia. In Amherst, Virginia. That's just north of Lynchburg.

I am from Amherst County. Way north of Dallas. Way north of Dallas and east. Uh Jeffrey, I met him a year ago, and he was telling me about, he said, I still believe in having revival. And when I asked me if I'd come and preach one of the nights, and he had me a year ago on 8:5, and I knew then I'm preaching 2 Corinthians 8:5 because you got to have a time where you may put Jesus first.

And For those who are listening who know anything about Thomas Rowe, Jerry Falwell, Liberty University, Dr. Falwell gave out Jesus' first pence. And it was all about we're going to put Jesus first.

Well, I asked Jeffrey, why do you believe You need to be having these revivals. And he wrote this: I think of the importance of revival. As I think of the importance of revival, I have to think back throughout Scripture as the Israelites walked away from the Lord. He used godly men to call them back. Revival is our day, in our day, is a great reminder of God's love for us, and Jesus should be our first love.

Revival also brings conviction. It opens eyes and hearts to areas the Lord needs to have control over. Revival awakens the church out of sleepy and stagnant seasons. Revival ministers to those who are without the Lord. May we continue to be revived by the Spirit of God.

And that's from Jeffrey Campbell, and they're having revival services. If you're listening on 93.7, go to Clifford Baptist Church tonight. The former pastor, Larry Fitzgerald, is going to be. preaching And I'm telling you, God will be at work in that church. All right.

Well, we got Mike is in Dayton, Ohio. Mike, you're on Truth Talk Live. What say you, Mike?

Well, I I I really believe that uh Church needs a revival. Um But sometimes I really believe that it only takes a spark. a spark for somebody in the church. To start saying, hey, this is what God's doing in my life. And um I'm Okay.

I'm seeing that in our church. Um usually our church on and during the summer. Yeah. It's not really full. And that's full.

Really? Yeah, and and I I'm I'm blessed. And you know how sometimes you want to get out of the church and go eat? Yeah. Well, people are coming up to you talking instead, and we're talking about God and what they're doing in their lives.

And I really hope our churches start is starting to have that revival. That is awesome. That is awesome. And so what do you attribute to The change. Um I would I would say the preaching Um the preaching is starting to talk about um the basics.

Why are you safe? How do you know you're safe? then that way you can go out to the lost and tell them And uh tell them what you think about uh uh but how to get saved. If you if you don't know the basics, then Then how on How can you reach loss? How can you have revival?

This is a football. I think our church might fast. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. This is the football. This is the baseball.

This is not a complicated game. But we've taken and made church so complicated, and we've gotten off on so many different subjects that we've missed the main thing. And when you get that fellowship that you're talking about, Mike, that is. It's iron sharpens iron, and that's what's creating the spark. And I loved what you said there because I remember a song growing up, it only takes a spark to get a fire going.

One of the ways we've conveyed The necessity of revival is draw a circle. and then step in the circle and say, Lord, begin the revival inside this circle. There are so many people they want to see everybody else get revived. and they haven't taken time to say, What kind of fire do I have in my own life? Draw that circle around me.

Draw that circle, get in and say, Lord, now start that revival in me. And when that starts happening, That spark is going to set a whole church on fire for the Lord. I love what you said there, Mike. I I agree. We we just had a youth splash, I call it, where Where the young kids had water slides and all this stuff.

And I worked. I work my tail off getting it all set up. And uh so did a lot of other people in the church. And I can see that it's just reviving our church to get closer together and. Right.

And you start doing stuff and that you know that was one of the things we talked about before we went on the air, Dr. Karsten and I, that one of the things revival does is it gets the members to invite people And a lot of people would have come to any invitation, but this gave gives you a good reason to invite people. And as you invite people, you feel more engaged. And where your heart is, you know, I mean, where your treasure is, that's where your heart, you know, when you start to take your time, talent, and treasure and put it into something like you did with your youth, what did you call it, Blash? Splash?

Is it Splash? Yeah, it was Children's Splash, I guess. We call it VBS down here, but. That's Ohio version. And what you hope is that that youth splash would lead to salvation that leads to another splash in the baptismal pool.

Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh.

Well, Dr. Carson, there was a family that you always sit next to me, and one of his sons got baptized that Sunday. And he p he wore his cub shirt. Because he remembered his dad getting his cub shirt when he got baptized when he was younger. And so he wore a cub shirt because his dad got baptized in the cub shirt.

So let me get this straight because a lot of people would not know, but having lived in that area, when we hear cub shirt down here, we think that of the Boy Scout. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. He's a Chicago Cubs fan. And so his dad was wearing a cub shirt.

Now, they're not a lot, a whole lot of Chicago Cubs fans everywhere. They haven't been the most winning team in the history. They're winning this year. It could happen. It could happen.

But how they finish. But nonetheless, that's what he was.

So, what a neat thing.

So the boy wanted to be in his dad's team shirt, right? I like that. Yeah, right. And the smile on their family's face and the joy that we had in the church because that was happening. That's revival to me.

That is. It's absolutely in his presence, his fullness of joy. And when people are having a blast and it shows all over their face. You know, that's that's real revival. That's it.

Thank you. Our pastor just preached on having a sour face. You know, not ha have a sour face. How are you going to lead people to Christ when you have a sour face, you know, and you got to have the joy in your heart? That's right.

Yeah. That's right. You've got to give people the reason for the hope.

Well, that doesn't look so hopeful if you're the big friend. I'm with you, Pastor, on that one. Thank you, my friend. Thank you for calling. It means so much to us, Mike.

God bless. All right, you got a few moments. 866-348-7884, 866-3487884. I know you got some date-the-word Bible passages you've not had a chance to share, Doc. And so we don't want to go out without having more scripture.

Well, you know, uh. For me The revival is going to be those challenging verses. 1 Kings 18, 21, and Elijah came to the people and said, How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him, but if Baal, follow him. And then the people didn't answer a word.

Sometimes in a church service, it's all of a sudden there's not going to be an amen or oh me. Everybody's just got their stun because great. Preaching does force you to make choices.

Now, who are you really going to serve? And so that's a real good one. I like. Um Judges 10, 16, I was thinking about Stu Repperson.

So they put away their foreign gods from among them, that's his birthday, and they serve the Lord. Revival from Judges 10:16, they decided we will serve the Lord only, and those can happen in a revival service. Yeah, and they had one that. Our church called Heavens Flames and or heaven's gates and hell's flames. My mother-in-law got the same to never forget it.

Great stuff. We'll be back next week.