Fox News Says 50 Percent of White Rural Voters are Backing Biden

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I have. I have no idea what's going on here, everybody. Welcome to the Todd Stearns Radio Program and great to have you with us. Let's just jump into all of this.

So, I was getting some text messages last night like Starnes, Starnes, what's the inside scoop? What's going on? I'm like, what are you talking about? I was having a nap. I was enjoying a lovely nap last night, and my phone is blowing up.

People are asking me, What's going on? What's going on between O'Reilly and Bogino? I'm like, what are you talking about? I have no idea what's going on.

So, apparently, there is some sort of a massive feud between Dan Bongino and Bill O'Reilly. And I was watching, Bongino continued it on his podcast earlier today. And so I watched the first 90 seconds of it. I was going to have Dylan pull the audio, but we would have had to have bleeped the entire 90 seconds. I've never heard such profanity.

I don't know what set him off, but Bongino is on the warpanth right now, and he's going after people that he believes are making a dollar off of conservatives who are not, in fact, conservative. I will say this about O'Reilly. I never really thought that Bill O'Reilly was a conservative. I think maybe more libertarian-ish. maybe conservative-ish, but I never really saw him as as a conservative.

Anyway, Bongino writing this on X. I will clean it up for our audience, so no need to turn down the radio.

So, a six-foot-tall plus pile of human blank, Bill O'Reilly. After repeatedly begging like a dog to come on my show to sell his books, decided it would be a good idea to attack me today for calling out the Democrats' love affair with cheating in elections. Blank canoe, I've never heard that phrase before, that word used in that way, but anyway, blank canoe Bill is about to find out on my show tomorrow, but he's a chump and a blank, so he's not going to do blank about it. Thanks. Thumbs up emoji.

All right, there you go.

So anyway, look, here's the deal. Democrats are trying to steal elections. There's no doubt about that. We've seen irrefutable evidence and proof of that.

So I'm not quite sure what Bill was going off on. But it's interesting because Bon Gino said something that really makes so much sense. And he is He is spot on accurate on this on this one particular issue. He says there are a lot of people. In the conservative ecosystem now.

who are just out to make a buck. These are people who Get paid to be conservative. They get paid to pretend that it's all make-believe for them. And a lot of these conservative websites out there. They're just as bad as the as the left lefties.

They're out there spewing all this information. A lot of it is not true. And when people do that, On the conservative side, it cheapens what everybody else does because people now begin to wonder: okay, well, if that's not true, is that true? What Starns wrote, is that true? Yes, it is true.

And I will say this about our website, and what we do, and our team here, is that we work very hard to get. Get correct information out to you. And in the rare instance that there is a mistake, and it is very rare, we will post that correction not at the bottom of the page. Not we will post that at the very top of the story and we'll make the correction. Because again, we want to be right, we want to be accurate, and I know a lot of people out there are using our information, and we want to make sure people are armed.

With the right information.

Sometimes it means missing out on a scoop, but that's okay because we would rather be right than be first. It's great if we are first, but again, the preference here and the working philosophy here is to get the facts right. Right. That's what we do here.

Now, the other part of it is that there are so many people out there. And this is, I just had to laugh as I'm listening to Bongino here because it's so true that there are a lot of these conservatives. And if you go on their websites, it's like you got to pay for this, you got to pay for that. You want to have premium access, you got to do this, you got to do that. And you're like, geez, Lou.

I mean, how much money? You know what I mean? It's like, how much money are people willing to spend on these conservative sites?

Now, we do have a sub stack, right? It is separate, and people complain about the ads.

Well, the reason why we have ads on our website, and I get these questions a lot, and I thought, you know what, why don't I just start out talking about this today?

So, we get a lot of people asking, Todd, there are a lot of ads on your website. What's going on? Yes, we have those ads, so we don't have to charge you, right?

So, we go, but a lot of these other websites, not only do they have all of those Google ads, but they also charge you on top of that. We don't do that here. We're very proud of the fact that we have sponsors who cover our bills, so we can provide free content for you. You go on our website, everything on our website is open to you. It is not behind a paywall.

And I don't know about you guys, but one of the things that completely irritates me: someone will send me a link to a story, I click on that link, and I've got to sign up for something. We don't make you do that here, right? We don't, everything you see on ToddSterns.com is free of charge. Want our newsletter? Great.

It is free of charge. You want our podcast? Great. It is free of charge. Now, we do have a sub stack on the side, so if you don't want the ads, Well, you got to pay for that, right?

But that's something separate, and that is, and again, you're still going to get all of our content, but you're going to get it without the ads.

So, anyway, I love what Bondino had to say because it is so true. You've got conservatives out there, and they are literally nickeling and diming you. One of the things that really irritates me about Fox News now: you click on one of their stories, guess what happens? As soon as you click on it, you have to sign up for something. Like what come on Fox, what's going on here at Fox?

They don't do that at Newsmax, and I appreciate that.

So, all that to say, this is interesting, but Bogino and O'Reilly are going at it. And Bogino just doesn't care. He does not care, and he's going to say what's on his mind.

So, there you go.

So, that's all I know for all of you folks that were texting me last night, waking me up out of my lovely nap. All that to say, welcome to the show, everybody. Glad to have you with us.

Now, I want to talk about this Fox News survey. This is really the jumping off point for today's conversation.

So, there's a lot going on at Fox right now. And President Trump is on the war path, and he is absolutely well within his rights to be on the warpath over what's happening at Fox. There is a brand new Fox poll that came out late yesterday, and It is, it's mind-blowing, and I'm not. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on this. According to this Fox News poll, 50% of all of you white farmers, you country folk, you rural folk, you are voting for Joe Biden.

Again, this is the Fox News poll that. Joe Biden is now leading Donald Trump in the poll.

Now, when you do the breakdown, the choice for president, and I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on this. According to Fox News, 56% of men are voting for Donald Trump. 41% of Are voting for Biden. All right. Then Trump, here we go.

50% of rural voters are going for Biden, 48% for Trump. White men with no degree, 64% for Trump, 34% for Biden. Trump wins white evangelicals.

Now, here's what's weird. People 65 and up, and we've got some senior saints listening to this program. 60, according to the poll, all of you folks over the age of 65, 57% of you are voting for Biden. Forty-two per cent. are voting for Trump.

All you white women with degrees. 64% of you are voting for Biden, 36% are voting for Trump. Do you believe Do you believe this poll coming out of Fox News? 901-260-5926. There is absolutely no way this is accurate.

Absolutely no way. 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926.

Now, I know for a fact that they have leftist At Fox News under their employment, and most of them work in the Fox News polling division. I know that beyond the shadow of a doubt. Worked there for almost fifteen years.

So I can tell you that The questions that were asked, everything was misleading and was directing people to show their support for Joe Biden. But Trump is on the warpath, and it's not even over this poll, right? The President is enraged because he says that Fox News can no longer be trusted. One of the reasons why is Paul Ryan, who is on the board of directors, the ex-Speaker of the House. Trump was just obliterating Ryan.

Called him a weak and ineffective rhino, a total lightweight, a disloyal person, and a dog. And the president is not wrong here, folks. I mean, look, going back to when Paul Ryan was Speaker of the House. And what did Paul Ryan do? He worked around the clock, publicly and privately, to derail the America VIST agenda.

That's what Paul Ryan did. He literally tried to sabotage and did a very good job of it. He tried to sabotage. the President from his own party. And for this the man is celebrated.

Now, a few weeks ago, Fox News gave Paul Ryan more than a half hour to attack Donald Trump. This was on Cavuto's show. I keep forgetting Cavuto still works there. Anyway, Ryan just obliterated Trump on this for an entire half hour on Fox News. By the way, that's the lowest day part.

I mean, they have a smaller audience. People literally turn off Fox News when Cavuto comes on. Anyway, Paul Ryan accused former President Trump of not having the character necessary to be president. You can't make this stuff up.

Now, Fox, back when I was there, back when Roger Ailes ran the place, Fox was known as being fair and balanced, right? We presented both sides of the story, we report, you decide. That was the slogan. But that's not what it is anymore. They're no longer fair and balanced, and that's why they did not give President Trump equal time.

Here's the deal: you're going to invite Paul Ryan to come on Fox News for an entire half hour and attack Donald Trump, then by golly, you better invite Donald Trump to come back on and give him 30 minutes to refute the charges that Paul Ryan made. That's what being fair and balanced is, but they're not fair and balanced anymore. And I am telling you that that Fox does not want Trump to be reelected. And you can certainly see that that attitude played out on the morning show Fox and Friends. In what used to be a fun, delightful way to start your morning, but now it's almost like morning Joe with a curvy couch.

I'm just saying.

So, look, we're going to open up the phone lines here. Do you trust this poll? We're going to get to your calls. We've got Janie and Memphis on hold. Hang tight.

901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926.

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Let's go to Memphis, Tennessee. Janie is listening to us on K-Wham. Hi, Janie. What's on your mind? My God.

Uh What sign What's changed from last month? Up until now. Trump was the winner. Done. Done deal.

Done. And now all of a sudden he's trailing. The exact same thing happened four years ago. And Jenny, I suspect it's going to get worse as we go on. You watch, I think they're playing politics with these polls.

That's what's going on here. But Yeah, they're playing politics with the puddles. They also played politics with the ballots, too, and they won. It's a fair point, Janie. Do you believe that the Republicans have done enough since 2020?

to fix what was broken at the ballot box. Do you believe that the Republicans are prepared for what's about to happen on Election Day? I don't think so. I don't think they realize. Dale.

Much. the Democrats are going to go to to keep Trump. Out. Short short of uh Ah. Killing the man.

They're gonna do whatever they have to do. to keep Trump out of office.

Well, that's a grave concern, to be honest with you. And there are others that share my concern that there may be somebody out there trying to take Donald Trump out. And that is a concern. And we've certainly seen that rhetoric on the other side of the aisle.

So that's a concern. Janie, appreciate the call. Thank you for listening. 901-260-5926. Again, 901-260-5926.

Now, I know that the RNC says they've they're training up and raising up an army of about 100,000 poll watchers. We may need more than that. And I am telling you, we've got some audio coming out of California. I'll play this in just a bit. But in California, they're literally asking and they're letting people who are not qualified to vote.

Vote in elections. It's just bonkers crazy.

So, yes, they are going to try to steal it. And when you look at this polling data, there's no way, there is no way that a farmer in the deep south. Who lives out in the middle of nowhere is a Joe Biden supporter. I don't care who Fox News was talking to, that poll is a fake poll. It's very simple.

It's a fake poll. 901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

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Happy, it's Thursday. Why does it feel like Friday today? Tomorrow is going to be an insane day. Heading up to Washington, I'll be speaking this weekend at the Road to the Majority Conference at the Washington Hilton. Going to be a lot of fun.

And I know we have a lot of our North Carolina listeners. I've already heard from some of you that are going to be there and hope to be able to shake your hand and meet you there personally. It's going to be a quick trip, though.

So, back there, we're back to Memphis Saturday night. And I've got to be at the Governor Christy Noam is coming to town, and she'll be speaking at the big Lincoln dinner. Got to raise money so we can get some anti-crime candidates elected here in the Memphis area. All right, let's get to the phones here: 901-260-5926. Let's say hello to Wanda, who is calling from North Carolina.

Hi, Wanda. What's on your mind? I thought, well, I'm here today to say that the majority of the demographics in that poll that you just described, I blow them all out of the water. I'm a white College-educated woman from the farm. who is going to be voting for Trump.

And I happen to be older than sixty five years old. Is that right?

So so you just blew the entire pole out of the water. I most certainly did, and I will continue to do it until the November election. Wanda, I'm curious. The folks that you pal around with, you hang out with, are they on the Trump train? Are they even talking about politics right now?

Oh yes, I am the chairman of our local Republican Party, and we are poised to hit the streets. Thank you. pole walk and pull doorknobs and call and fund bank and get those reluctant voters out in the fall as well as those unaffiliates. who don't know necessarily that they need to vote for Trump.

So we're telling them like it is. Good for you. And Wanda, I I'm excited, and I love it when I hear from cheerpeople of local conventions because those are vitally important positions, and it sounds like you're fired up and you're firing everybody up around you. We are we are working with Trump Force forty seven. And the swing state.

to make sure that our voters get to the polls and Trump gets into the White House. That's Carter County, North Carolina. I love it. I love it. Wanda, you are a great lady.

That is such a great area. Great people there. Of course, you've got the sanitary fish house. They're in Moorhead City, which is a fine dining establishment. We certainly do.

But can I say something, Wanda? We got to talk about the hush puppies in North Carolina. Got to have a conversation. They're special hush puppies for either barbecue or fish. I'm still trying to.

I hear you, and I am open-minded, but it's going to take, I may need another trip to North Carolina to convince me. Come on down. We'll welcome you anytime. All right, Wanda. Good luck out there.

And wow, I like Wanda. I want one to give us a call back and give us an update on what's happening out there on the campaign trail. Because folks You can have the people from Fox News Channel in Hoity-Toity, New York City. Doing these surveys and polls, but that doesn't mean a hell of beans. And I find it very hard to believe.

That all of you country folk out there, and we we broadcast primarily to country folk. We are on a number of radio stations in small towns and communities. And I just find it hard to believe that you guys are supporting Joe Biden. Mm-hmm. Let's go back to the phones: 901-260-5926.

Let's say hello to Boyd in Georgia. Hi, Boyd. What's on your mind? That's hard. Thank you to Wanda and all she shared.

we'd need need more ladies like Wanda out there And I just want to comment about the Fox News poll, pretty obvious about all that. But You know, when they say college educated, they're actually legacy media educated and college indoctrinated. in their pole and foxes no longer willing to admit. What they're talking about. And I'm sorry, I know a lot of college educated women.

who have their own minds who will be voting for Donald Trump. You see, Boyd, I'm with you. I see, I mean, when you go to these rallies, I mean, we're not talking, you know, Fox News wants you to believe. That all of Trump's supporters basically and I apologize for painting this picture here, but they want you to believe that the average Trump supporter lives in a trailer park and makes out with his sister. And has no teeth.

And exactly. Yeah, they I mean It's like an insult to me. I'm I'm a pharmacist who did that for over forty years. And I No. uh when I see Doubts.

reporting in the news. And it it's just very frustrating nowadays. We see Tim Bryant down here in Athens, Georgia, and Joey Hudson in South Carolina. the the left is trying to take away all our Our media, um, and I hope you're always there because you're in my wrestling ball.

Well, Boyd, I well, you're very kind to say that, and we're just going to keep telling it like it is, my friend. Uh, and and we're going to call out folks. Look, I've got a lot of friends still at Fox News, but uh, they're not in the polling division, so but we're going to call them out, Boyd, appreciate that call. And don't get me wrong, I mean, there are a lot of people who live in trailer parks that are good, great, decent people who do not make out with their sisters and still have all of their God-given teeth. I'm right, I get that.

But they want to paint an image of who the average Trump supporter is. And the reason they're doing that is they want to make all of you college-educated people who live in the mansions who, well, some of you may date your sister. I mean, you know, I've watched The Crown. That may be the case, but they want you to feel weird, right? Don't feel weird, ladies and gentlemen.

These are fake polls. That's what this is. Fake polls. All right, let's go to Valerie. In North Carolina.

Hi, Valerie. What say you? Hello, yeah, Fox News is a rhino, you know? Um, I put my trust with no man. I put my trust with God.

I am voting. from Two hundred percent. Wow.

So not 100% is not going to do it for you, Valerie. No, no.

Okay. My whole family voted for Sharp. And they never got their vote. Out. Good for you.

And I will say this, Valerie. I come from a similar family. Our family is all Trump. We don't think we have any liberals in the family. If they do, they keep that hidden.

Dylan, do we have any liberals in the family? We don't have any liberals in the family. Valerie, we have no liberals in the Stearns family. It worked. Yeah, I don't believe we do.

Maybe a cousin distant. I don't know. Thank you. Well, when they show up for Thanksgiving and they got the magenta hair, you may have a problem. I just want to throw that out.

That's okay. That's okay. All right. Well, Valerie, thank you so much. Thanks for calling in today.

And she's right. You know, folks, don't put your trust in these polls. We've been warning you. And look, I mean, when they're in your favor, it looks great. But I find it very hard to believe that anybody who drives a tractor for a living is going to cast their ballot.

I just absolutely do. All right, I've got to share this with you before we go to break.

Someone sent this to me, and it's from the Kokomo Press. This is a parody website, but it's pretty darn funny. And I want to preface this by saying this is parody, so don't call Kokomo City Hall and fire off a complaint. Here is the headline from the Kokomo Press: Kokomo Beach is now offering free admission to anyone gay. On June 21st, the Kokomo Beach is offering free admission to anyone that is gay, bisexual, or transgendered.

Straight people can still attend. They just have to pay the normal $7 entry fee. In addition to free admission, the gays will also get a free wiener and Coca-Cola product. They said wingmir. In order for Kokobo Beach to determine if you're a homosexual or not, they will go off a list bulletin points given to them by the LGBTQ.

Oh, this is great stuff here. I'm excited. I don't know where this is going. All right, here we go. According to Kokomo Press.

If you are wearing rainbow apparel, you will be admitted. If you're holding hands with the same gender, If you're wearing hey dudes, what is that? What is hey dudes? Those shoes. That shoes?

Yeah, they're like slip-on shoes. Oh, are those gay? I don't know. I see a lot of dads wearing them, so I don't know. God, if you're walking funny, what does that mean?

What does that mean if you're walking funny? What happens if you've had hip replacement surgery? That could just be with the way you walk.

Okay. If you're driving a Jeep or Dodge Ram. Does that make you gay? You're shaking your head, yes. Yeah, you shouldn't drive a Dodge.

You shouldn't drive a Dodge. All right. If you mention you're vegan or allergic to gluten. That one makes sense. We just triggered somebody out there.

There you go. Continue. I left one of their options out. That would get us canceled. Kokomo Beach says this is just one of the many things they plan on doing in the future to strengthen their relationship with the LGBTQ community.

The beach will be expending hours. From 10 a.m. to 9. Oh, that's very nice. I mean, this is funny.

Thousands of people are commenting, and they don't realize it's a parody. I drive a Jeep. What are you trying to say? Yeah. I'm just saying.

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I don't buy any of it. I think they're going to juice the guy up. And look. I'm as serious as I can be here. They need to be doing some drug testing.

Just give Biden the bottle right before he gets on this. We got to test Joe Biden because you know they're going to juice this guy up with something. Got to. 901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

Let's go to Judy in Georgia. Hi, Judy. What's on your mind? Hey, I just wanted to give you a viewpoint from another college educated Person, woman, Talk to me, Judy. one hundred percent Trump to always has been without a shadow of a doubt.

I can't get where they're getting all of these educated women as Voting for Biden. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't either, Judy. I really don't. Part of me wonders if they're just making this stuff up.

I've never gotten a call from a pollster. In all my fifty-something years, I've never gotten a call from a pollster. My cousin is one of those million dollar real estate people in Michigan. And she's a trumpster, a hundred percent.

Well, there you go. What is it about Donald Trump, Judy? Because again, if you believe the media, people like you should be repulsed by Donald Trump. To me, the man well, I to use the old comparison, he's playing three D chess while they're playing checkers.

Well, I it's a good point. Good point. I would like to see some pushback on this. thing about challenging the election, every person both sides is challenged. When they lose.

Oh, of course I have. Hillary Clinton still isn't conceded. Yes, so why's it coming down so hard on him? It's a great question, Judy, and the reason why is that there was cheating.

Now, have they been able to prove it in a court of law beyond a shadow of a doubt? No, not yet, but they need to. They knew to Judy, appreciate that call. And look, here's the deal, folks. My concern, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.

What happens what happens if if they name Biden the winner on election night. What happens to the country at that point? And the thinking is that all of you Trump supporters, all of you America first people, are just going to shrug your shoulders or get angry and then just go to bed, and that's the end of it. And we've got four more years of Biden.

So I'm curious, what do you think is going to happen in this country if Joe Biden is named the winner? I'm not saying elected, I've just said named, named the winner. By the way, on that note, we're going to be paying close attention to all of this. We have people monitoring this. Hillary Clinton is back out doing speeches again on a pretty regular basis, and she's also now weighing in on some of the big issues of the day.

So she's lurking about. Pay very close attention to that. And hear me on this. If Biden is going to be, if they are not going to change out Biden, That tells me they're going to have to change out Kamala because everybody knows there's no way Biden, if he is in fact reelected, is going to be able to finish out his term in office. I don't even think he makes it to Inauguration Day.

So they're going to have to have somebody in that number two position. That will move the needle. And in their minds, they think that's the old white chick in the polyester pantsuit. That's Hillary Clinton, by the way.

So don't be surprised if there is some sort of a movement. Again, if they keep Biden in the top of the ticket, there will be an effort to replace Kamala Harris. And it would either that person would either have to be Hilary or Michelle.

So uh otherwise Otherwise, it it doesn't move the needle. And they need somebody that's going to move the needle that will really mobilize the base. And I'm fairly certain Hillary is not that person, but it would be big. I mean, pardon me, it would be Michelle.

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So now every classroom from kindergarten up to college, they're going to have to have the Ten Commandments in that classroom. And we're going to have a debate between First Liberty Institute and Americans United for the separation of church and state. That's going to be a fun. Fun conversation. Also, Governor Mike Huckabee is going to drop by.

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That's right. I love this American ride. Stars. Oh, well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Todd Stearns Radio Program.

Happy to have you with us today. Welcome to all of our great listeners around America. By the way, this weekend, looking forward to being at the Road to the Majority Conference, our good buddy Ralph Reed is they're expecting about 3,000 people there in Washington for the weekend convention. And look forward to meeting many of our great listeners there as well. By the way, just wanted to share this with you: is that the family of Rachel Morin, she was the young mother of five who was killed by the illegal alien.

We understand that President President Trump has reached out and has spoken to the family.

something that the Biden administration has yet to do.

So again, we'll follow those developments. But again, President Trump speaking with Rachel's mother earlier today. All right. 901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

Want to go to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line? Greatest American patriot I know hangs out with us today, Governor Mike Huckabee, host of not just one but two programs now on TBN. Governor, hope you're doing good today. Yeah, and Todd, listen, if I'm the The best patriot you know, we've got to get you out and introduce you to some better people.

Well, I'll try to come across the river and see if we can make that happen, Governor. That's great. Governor, we've got to talk about San Francisco. They're having a big mayor's race out there. London Breed is the Democrat currently controlling the city.

And apparently, the most pressing issue facing the city of San Francisco is knowing who the drag queens are. And she actually called out one of the straight guys who's running for mayor and demanded to know that he name three drag queens. Yeah, that's important, Todd. In San Francisco, you need to know at least three. It's better if you know three hundred.

What a silly race that is. It's almost like: hey, I know more gay people than you do, I know more drag queens than you do. And I'm not sure how that makes you a better mayor to say Yep, when it comes to people out there on the far left and in the LGBTQ MIO USE community. I know more of those folks than you know. Therefore, I should be the mayor of the city and deal with crime and the city budget and fire trucks and police cars.

and parks and all those things. That's what we've been reduced to. Identity politics is killing America because people no longer care whether an individual is competent. They only care do you support the idea of diversity, which really means do you support the idea of uniformity to a far leftist position in which anything goes? Yeah, I mean, the reality is right now San Francisco is not safe for straight people or the drag queen.

So everybody's got a target on their backs in San Francisco. You know, the same thing is happening here in Memphis, where the mayor has apparently handed out orders. You know, the police department's not able to actually release all of the crime that's happening because they say the real issue is not that we're the most deadly or dangerous city in America, but that Memphis is dealing with a perception problem. Yes, that's always the case, Todd. You know, it's a It's really easy to reduce your crime stats when you just don't tell anybody what they are.

Suddenly it becomes a very safe place unless unless you go out in the streets at night fill up your car at a convenience store and not be fully armed with a semiautomatic Um at least an IR fifteen to defend yourself. And that's got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard people try to present is that we just have a perception problem and we overreport our crimes.

Well, what are you doing, making them up? No, you're actually reporting the ones that you have. And when those numbers are horrible, you think you might want to address the crime, not the reporting of it. Hey, that's why I'm not mayor of Memphis right now. There's a few other reasons.

Well, yeah, just a few. And that's why a lot of people, if they're driving through, they'll get their gas in West Memphis. They'll wait until they cross the bridge. Or if they're going to Mississippi, they'll wait until they cross that state line. And that is a concern because you've even got people like FedEx that are now saying it's almost becoming unsustainable to stay in Memphis and to keep our company there.

If that were to happen, that would be a gut punch, not just to Memphis, but to the Mid South. And I hope that the people in Memphis, its leaders, will get uh not woke, but will get waked up. and we'll start doing what's really good, not just for the city and its coppers, that's important. But do what's good for those. the safety and well being of its people.

There's no greater responsibility that a government official has than to keep its people safe. That's number one. And if they're failing to do that, First, the citizens have a responsibility to dismiss them and get new ones and different ones. But the people who are in those offices who can't control those things. should have the integrity to resign.

Governor, I want to switch gears here and let's talk about what's happening with Joe Biden. Yesterday, video surfaced. It took him approximately 15 seconds to try and get inside a suburban. The administration is now saying any video that shows Biden as an old man is fake video. They're calling it cheap fakes.

Isn't that bizarre? I mean, it's like you want to just whisper to them and tell, as Dan Mandis, the talk show host in Nashville, likes his caller. John Pierre. And you just want to whisper and say, You know, we do see this, right? I mean, we're watching in real time when this stuff happens, so you can say that it's cheap fakes.

But You show us then, go ahead and show us if this is a cheap bank. Show us the original. Give us some unedited version of what we're watching. and let us see what you claim that is going on. If this is a cheap take, then you surely, because we know that you follow around in the communications team, with cameras and microphones so that You know everything the president says and does.

So show us your version of it. And let's just make a comparison. Why don't they do that, Todd? Because they can't. they can't allow the American people to realize that the eighty one year old president has the mental acuity basically of the vegetable plate at Denny's.

Yeah. It's true. Who do you see ultimately as being the nominee in the fall? Do you think it is going to be Joe Biden or do you think they make a switch maybe in Chicago? It may be that after this debate next week, even Democrats who want to support him.

will have to say Jove. for the good of the country in their view. I think this is the good of the country. He stays and Trump beats him handily. That's really what would be good for the country.

But maybe they say to him, You just have to step aside. We'll help you build a heck of a library and pay you $10 million. We'll even pay you more than the Chinese paid you for all those deals that you made with Hunter. We'll make it your worth your while. But you got to step aside.

Um that may happen. Or he may be so stubborn and Jill be so stubborn that he just decides he's going to ride it all the way to November. And if he does, then I think Donald Trump wins in a landslide.

So you're not buying the Fox News poll that shows over half of countrymen, country folk are supporting Joe Biden. No, that's absurd. If that's the case, I'd like to meet them. Because I I live in the country folks world. That's who I am.

It's where I live. It's where I spend most of my time. And if that's the case, They are the most Secretive. Um recluse people that live in America today. I simply don't see them, and I don't hear from them.

And even the ones that would probably say to my face because they would enjoy it. Todd, I'm not feeling it. And if that's the case, how come Joe Biden? attracts more mosquitoes than he does m people when he holds a rally. He doesn't hold a rally.

And When he does. It's usually with Hollywood celebrities who are paying big dollars so that they can pretend that You know, they're really on the woke side of things, and that Donald Trump and all of the people like me who support Trump. are deplorables And we we're worse than that. We're crazy people. We're a threat to democracy.

as are all those mothers who go to a school board meeting because they don't want their children of being exposed to pornography in this in the school classroom. I don't know. Maybe here you're a rural guy. You talk to people every day. Do you see that?

And I think the answer is evident? No. And no one does who's out here in the real world. I go down to the farmers' market, Hernando, Mississippi, on the town square on Saturdays. I haven't heard a single person ever say anything polite about Joe Biden, ever.

Yeah. Yeah, I I don't either. And once in a while, driving around Little Rock, I might see a Biden-Harris sticker. Usually they're from 2020. not current.

But if I do see one, there's a whole bunch of other stickers on that car. their peace stickers and their LGBTQ, their rainbow things. You just don't see that kind of support. Go to Walmart and you see a lot of MAGA hats. I don't see a lot of Biden-Harris hats.

I just don't. I'm with you on that. All right. Real quick here, Governor. You've got the show on TBN on Saturdays, which is just massive, massive numbers.

Now you're doing another program as well. I want you to tell our listeners about what else you're doing at TBN.

Well, Todd, a couple of weeks ago, we launched a new show. It's called Hockabi Today. It runs every week evening, every weekday. Monday through Friday at 6:30 Eastern, 5:30 Central on TBN. We do in-depth interviews, so it's totally different than our weekend show, which is, as you know, a variety show with a live band and a studio audience and a lot of.

Um you know, just it's a different kind of show than you see anywhere on T V. And it'll continue. It's here to stay because it's the number one show on TVN. We're all happy with it. But this is a show that gives me the opportunity to have more in-depth conversations with newsmakers.

trying to make issues of the day relatable and understandable to people as they sit around their kitchen table. And that's really the goal of it. I'm enjoying it immensely because as you know in Cable News, If you can have just three, four, five minutes with a person. That's about the limit. Yeah.

uh with the guest in many of the cases. And it's just it's fun for me, and I think the guests enjoy it because they're able to go into more depth.

So it's uh It's a very authentic. And uh I think thorough conversation with people that Uh I I'm convinced people are going to find it fascinating. All right, well, folks, you'll be able to watch that. And you're at 6:30, is that right? six thirty Eastern, five thirty Central Every night of the week, Monday through Friday, and the weekend show continues on Saturday and Sunday.

Busiest man in the business, I gotta tell you, I don't know how you do it all, Gov.

Well, I you know, my wife says I'm crazy, and I told her she knew that when she married me. What does she expect? There you go. All right. Well, Governor, congrats on the new show.

Always good having you on the show today. Mm-hmm. Thanks, Todd. Great to see you. All right, Governor Mike Huckabee, everybody.

And again, you can watch that show Monday through Friday, 6:30 Eastern Time, and then 8 o'clock Eastern, you'll be able to watch Governor Huckabee's big weekend show, which is a lot of fun. Governor was very kind. We've always launched our books on the governor's shows, and it's a great way to start a book project.

So there you go. All right. We've got to take a quick break here: 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926.

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This is From Louisiana, the Ten Commandments.

Now mandatory in all public school classrooms. Cut number eight. This bill mandates The display of the Ten Commandments in every classroom in public, elementary, secondary, and post-education schools in the state of Louisiana. Because if you want to respect the rule of law, you've got to start. From the original lawgiver.

Which was Moses. Amen. All right. Guy gave Moses restee. That's right.

He got his commandments from God.

So he wrote them all for us. All right. All right, that was the governor of Louisiana, Jeff Landry.

Now, coming up, we're going to have a debate on the radio. This is coming up in just a few moments. It's going to be really very fun, very entertaining, and hopefully informative. But I want to know from you: do you think this is a good idea? Do you believe that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in all public school classrooms?

901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

So we're going to be having that conversation coming up in just a matter of moments.

Now I want to play this audio from California. This is Mayor London Breed. She was at a debate. Another candidate who happens to be a straight white guy was being called out because of his alleged lack of knowledge of drag queens. Cut 17.

I'd like to ask Mark a question. Um you were at the Harvey Milk, LGBT Democratic Club, and couldn't name any LGBT advisors to your campaign. You were at the debate last week and couldn't name any drag queens on your own. I was wondering if you. This is an opportunity to redeem yourself.

And if you could name three LGBTQ advisors for your campaign and three drag queens, Uh in San Francisco.

So We're not going to not going to revise the drag queen question from last week. But what I will say is, I am incredibly proud of the support that I have from our LGBTQ plus community here in the San Francisco Thank you. I have a member, a former member of the Board of Supervisors, Jeff Sheehee, who is a close friend and a supporter of my campaign. I have a member of my staff. Two members of my staff.

From the queer community here in the city of San Francisco, that I won't dignify this question by actually naming exactly who they are. But what I will do is stand by my record and supporting our queer community here in the city of San Francisco. All right, so there you go. And what I found interesting is the use of the term. Did you hear the word?

You have a chance to redeem yourself.

So, what she's saying is that if you just can't lickety split name three drag queens off the top of your mind, then you're somehow an irredeemable person. I think you got to say RuPaul. And who's the dude chick, Billy Porter?

Well, he's not really a drag queen. He's just a weird dude in a dress. RuPaul. I guess I'm irredeemable. There you go.

901-260-5926. We'll be right back. Oh, wow. Sad news coming in. Donald Sutherland has passed away.

That news coming in from our news partners over at Newsmax. Just getting this word in with a heavy heart, I tell you, this is from Kiefer Sutherland. His Uh Donald Sutherland, his father, has passed away. He was one of the most important actors in the history of film, never daunted by a role, good, bad, or ugly, and loved what he did anyway, a life well-lived. Indeed, really one of the great actors of our time.

But Donald Sutherland has passed away. All right. Well, the big news coming out of Louisiana, and it has got a bunch of folks riled up over at the ACLU. The governor signing into law a bill that mandates the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom from kindergarten all the way through university. Is that a good idea?

Well, let's talk about it. And I want to welcome into the program two guests, first Hiram Sanser, who is the Executive General Counsel at First Liberty Institute. Hiram, hope you're doing well today. Hey, thanks for having me. And we also have Rachel Laser, who is the Chief Executive Officer at Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Rachel, good to have you with us today. And good to be here. All right. So, here's what we're going to do, guys. And again, I'll sort of moderate our discussion, but feel free to jump in.

And if you disagree or agree, but we'll have a good conversation here on the radio. And, Rachel, I want to start with you. Do you believe it is a good idea to have the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms? I do not. I run an organization called Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

And that separation is so important to protecting Religious freedom for all of us, and not just some of us.

So, I am thinking about the students. In those public school classrooms, and the students who may come from a different religious tradition and who maybe feel made to feel like outsiders or have to worry about being. Ostracized. I'm worried about those children. I'm worried about our country's promise of religious freedom.

Hiram, how do you respond to that? Yeah, well, if you want to talk about the policy side of whether or not it's a good idea. I think you have to try to figure out an answer Why um why some people think it's okay to put the pride flag up on the wall, and that that does not involve those types of concerns that Rachel's describing. Uh but they're concerned about the Ten Commandments money. You would think that they would that they would be both opposed to the pride flag on the on the wall of the school.

And also opposed to the Ten Commandments, but you find that some people, the people that are opposed to the Ten Commandments, are okay with the pride flag. And I find that to be fascinating. But from a legal perspective, The entire framework for not allowing the Ten Commandments monuments in the public classrooms is all built upon this sort of. a case uh Stone versus Graham from nineteen eighty. That really had no real precedential value as a Percurium five four opinion.

They didn't even have an argument on it. They just sort of did it summarily. And it was built on Lehman versus Kurtzman. And in that case, we've already overturned that with three U. S.

Supreme Court cases, including the Coach Kennedy case. And so there's no legal basis for banning the Ten Commandments. And I don't understand the policy argument of saying the pride flag is okay, but the Ten Commandments is not. Yes, and I've heard that argument as well, Rachel.

So how do you square that?

Well, the way I square it, and it's a fair question, is we've got to keep the government out of religion. And that's what pastors want. That's what most churchgoers want. Because when you subject religious tradition. And here we're talking about very sacred rules.

To the government, it could become a tool of the government. There are traditions where the names of the divine. It's not even written out, right? Like I'm Jewish, so in my tradition, many write G hyphen B because it's sacrilegious to write out the name of the divine.

So here what we're talking about is the government coming in choosing the way it wants to rewrite the Ten Commandments. And frankly, I would like to pose a question back, if I may, which is why why are you upset that the government is editing the Ten Commandments? Hiram Jupim. Sure, sure.

Well, the version that the bill is using of the Ten Commandments is the one that the U.S. Supreme Court approved of in 2005 in Van Orden versus Perry. It's etched on. The Ten Commandments Monument on the Texas Capitol grounds. In fact, etched on 150 plus similar memorials throughout the entire nation on various capital grounds and other and other cities and have been being prominently displayed in those cities for sixty or seventy years.

I really haven't heard this sort of new argument criticizing the choice of the Tink and Mammoth's language that's been on all these displays for 60 or 70 years and that the Supreme Court has already approved of. But I think what's really important here, what we're drilling down to, is that for some reason there's this allergic reaction to language. That's deemed to be somewhat connected to religion or religious language in general or any kind of religious imagery. But for whatever reason, it's perfectly okay to engage in lots of indoctrination type events with associated with the rainbow flag. And associated with some of the transgender movement.

And I just, it's really baffling to me. why all why imposing those beliefs and all of those things, that's all fine. But you have a text that was written thousands of years ago, an historical text, and for some reason, they treat it as scary as the final scene in the Raiders of the Lost Ark. And I just don't understand what's going on. Rachel, respond to what Hiram just said there.

I mean, he doesn't understand, and I think a lot of our listeners don't understand that as well.

Well, I thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to respond to that. I actually really appreciate it. And I think that we don't have enough dialogue like this across divides.

So I just want to say I really appreciate you inviting me on the show. Um you know Church-state separation isn't an allergy to religion in any way. We were founded by religious leaders. I'm religious. We have a lot of religious folks on our board.

We have a National Faith Advisory Council. It protects religion from being sullied by the government, right? Because when the government is involved, strings get attached. And that's not good for religion. Actually, a lot of folk would say in America, the reason that religion has thrived is because we separate church and state.

So it has to compete and it's been allowed to stay free from religion. Or, as Dr. King said, you know, that he was actually, a lot of people know a lot about him, obviously, but they don't know that he was for church-state separation as a very devout person. And his rationale was. He thought that the church shouldn't be the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience of the state.

So I think that's it's I'm really happy that you've given me the opportunity to respond because this is actually about protecting religion. It's not any allergy to religion. And it's also about protecting the religious freedom and the religion of families that send their kids to public schools that might not be all of the same persuasion. It enables all of us to teach our kids, and I have three kids, in our homes what we believe in and to send our kids to Sunday schools that teach them what our particular religion is. And that's why 100 pastors and church goers wrote to Governor Landry and said, Veto this bill.

We're asking you to do this because we don't want religious education to take place. By the government.

Now, Rachel, using and I hear exactly what you said in a very passionate argument there. Would you also agree, though, that there should not be this radical gender indoctrination in the classroom as well as Hiram has been pointing out with all of the LGBT propaganda, the flags and things of that nature in the classroom? I think that no one narrow religious view in this country should be a very important thing.

Well, we're not talking about. No, no, no, no, no. That's not a narrow religious view. I think just about every major religion has very similar beliefs on sex and gender.

So the question is: would you agree also that if you're going to take the Ten Commandments out of the classroom, well, you've got to take all the other stuff out as well, the gay pride flags, for example? Yeah, see, I don't think, I mean, maybe it's because I come from a religious denomination that doesn't view it that way, but CRRI did a study on abortion, just as another example. And a lot of people assume that all religions have one view on abortion. But what they found is most religions in America would complete the sentence, abortion should be dot, dot, dot, with legal most of the time.

So I actually don't think that there's just, that's the point. I don't think that there's just sort of a unanimous sort of ruling from a religious perspective. All right, let's let Hiram jump into the conversation. Hiram, I didn't mean to hog your time here, but go ahead and respond. I think that's an unfair question to Rachel because Rachel is bound by basically, she has to support.

the rainbow flag stuff. That's a part of the base of her support.

So I think it's unfair to try to try to put her in that box. She's going to have to swear allegiance to that faith. it's too important to to the left. But I don't think that it's a neutral message. Uh to the kids.

To say this document, this Ten Commandments, it's so hideous. It's so awful. that that to allow you to actually view it. would be almost a grave national sin. And that's not a neutral message.

Tearing down monuments ripping out Ten Commandments monuments. banning Ten Commandments, banning books. These are not neutral messages to the kids. It's sending a clear and distinct message that the government has something they think the government thinks there's something wrong with religion, and they think it's so hideous that small children cannot see it. Rachel, I'll give you a word there.

Well, thank you. I just want to refocus us on what this nation's about, right? And one of the things that makes me so proud to be an American is that this country promises religious freedom. It's in our DNA. And so church-state separation is, it should be like apple pie and vanilla ice cream in this country.

And we were actually a majority Republican group in the 1980s. It shouldn't be partisan. It should be something that Did we lose freedom in the country? Rachel, let me jump in here real quick. And then, Hiram, I want you to respond to this as well.

So, Rachel, first, then Hiram. It turns out, and this is going to be the great irony if this case does go all the way back to the Supreme Court, that this will be argued in a building that has no less than three monuments or displays to the Ten Commandments. Rachel, do you think the Supreme Court ought to get rid of the Ten Commandments displays and the monuments in the building? I think the Supreme Court abide by long-standing precedent. What we're talking about here is: Well, no, they got them in the building.

I mean, if they're so horrible. Hiram, what say you, Hiram? Because I really, this is serious for me, though, because I'm a mother and I'm a mama bear, right? And I have three children. And what I want to focus this on is our children in classrooms, right?

We're in a completely different context here where children are impressionable and vulnerable. And we don't want to make any of our children feel like outsiders and not welcome. And that's what's at issue here. Hiram, it just seems to me, and again, if you're talking about greater threats, there are some that would rather have the drag queens in the classroom with the children as opposed to the Ten Commandments.

Well, look, I find it humorous when folks on the left when they're upset about the Ten Commandments, but of course, they see no problem at all with the things that you that we've been talking about dealing with the rainbow flag. I it's here's the deal I'd like to propose. If Rachel would agree. You can have the rainbow flag and the Ten Commandments next to each other up on the wall. If I'll agree to that, would you agree?

There's no separation of flags in state or sexuality in state. What we're talking about here is the separation of church and state. It's inappropriate. And I love the Ten Commandments. But it's inappropriate for them to be in public school classrooms.

It protects religion and it protects Everyone's religious freedom, and I'd like to think that we'd all agree upon that. Do we?

So Hiram, the answer is no. It's ideology for me, but not for thee. And that's the nature of this entire establishment clause fight. which is they have no problem with The indoctrination coming from the left into the classroom, what they do have a problem with is even a small token. Such as a passive display of the Ten Commandments, which doesn't ask anyone to do anything, it's just simply there on display.

And for some reason That seems to be so powerful. They believe in it. The atheist groups the other atheist groups that are opposed to this, they believe it's so powerful. even though they say they don't it doesn't have any power. They believe it's so powerful that to even allow it to have to occupy the same space as the rainbow flag would be offensive.

And I think that's where we're at here. The game is up. The fifty year Supreme Court precedent of Lehman versus Kurtzman is dead. that sort of reign of censorship. And discrimination against religious people in public spaces that has come to an end.

The Supreme Court has put it to an end. And now we're going to have an equal plan. Playing field, and we'll see whose idea is the better idea on an equal playing field. People of faith no longer have to enter the public space. with wi by having to hide their identity.

Actually, now we're going to be in a space where it's going to be equal playing time, and we'll just see what happens.

Now, Rachel, I want to give you the last word here. We've got about 30 seconds, but I'd like for you to answer my question here. If the Ten Commandments are not appropriate for the public school classroom, are they appropriate for government buildings like the Supreme Court building? I would like to honestly keep my focus right now on the question. No, no, no.

But this is the question I'm asking. No, no, no. Just ask the question. It's a simple question. This isn't a moment where I want to talk about that because I need to keep it.

Well, this is my show. I'm asking the questions. And I've given you a chance to sort of meander here. Just answer the question. All right, she's not answering the question.

Don't you care about the students like that's it. People care. Hey, hang tight. Rachel, Rachel, we got to leave it there. We're coming up on a break.

But again, it was a very simple question that you did not answer. And I wanted to give you an opportunity to do that. All right. Hiram Sasser. From First Liberty Institute, Rachel Lacer from the Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Guys, thank you both very much. But again, the question remains: if the Ten Commandments have to come out of the classroom, do they have to come out of those government buildings as well? All right, got to take a break here, folks. 901-260-5926. That's our number.

901-260-5926. This is the Todd Stern Show. All right, let's try to sneak in a call here, Heath from Georgia. Hey, Heath, what's going on? What's on your mind?

Hey, Todd. Hope the kids in the background aren't too loud. I'm I'm ha Hanging out with my little seven-year-old son at the pool today. Nice.

So listening on WDUN, by the way, I love those guys down there. they're the best. They really are. We can't wait for you to come back. And we're going to just stuff you with some really good barbecue when you get here.

That being said, the two questions I would have loved for you to ask your guest would have been: she claimed to be religious, she claimed to be Jewish. What? What is your answer, or how would you answer to what your Torah says about homosexuality? That would have been my first question. to her and then because she would have had to being able to square that.

And what's your second one, real quick, Keith? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which one of the Ten Commandments? Did she disagree with?

Well, those are terrific questions, Heath, and we're going to try to get them back on. I like the back and forth. I think it's always important for us to hear the other side, no matter how wackadoodle loony left they are. Heath, enjoy the swimming pool. We'll be right back, folks.

Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's common sense conservative commentary from Todd Starr. That's right. I love this American. All right, I have a question, and it's an unkind question, I suppose, but I really have. Been wondering about this.

Welcome to the Tom Stearns Radio Program. Happy to have you with us today. So All you Christians out there. I have a question for you. Why do you still take the family vacations?

Why do you still take the ute groups to Disney? Why do you guys do that? And a lot of these folks are very, very conservative. They're very, very religious. And they're very angry at what Disney has been doing, the wokeness that has infected a lot of the Disney products and shows lately.

And these are the people that are out there, and they will protest and boycott till the cows come home. But when it comes to Disney, well, I mean, I've gotten text messages. Don't you be talking about Disney? Don't you go there? Don't you be talking about?

Don't you do it? All right, all right. Just curious, huh? And the reason why is because all these folks are the same people that complain about how bad Disney is.

Now, look, I'm just going to be as. Open as a as a book today on this. I still go to Target every now and again. I mean, wa maybe once every six months, but there are some things that I need to get that I can't get anywhere else except at Target.

Now, my philosophy is this: don't go anywhere around the changing rooms because you don't know what's going to be crawling out of there. If you got to go to the bathroom, wait till you get back home because you don't want to be, you know. You don't be having to go to the bathroom and you're in the men's room and a big old lesbian comes in. Or if you're in the ladies' room and some big burly gay dude in a dress comes in.

So I get it. I mean, sometimes out of necessity, you have to go to these places. But Disney is Disney a necessity? And by the way, have you noticed? Have you noticed?

Somebody actually did a story on this a couple of weeks ago. But I think we may and they may have been listening to the show, and that's what prompted the story. But I noticed the last time I was um near Disneyland. It was oh gosh. I was giving a speech.

It was the Pacific Justice Institute, and the event itself was actually at the at Walt at Disneyland at the Grand Californian Resort, which is like right there off of that what do they call it, Disney Main Street or whatever.

So anyway, they said, Todd, you know, we um We want you to come in, enjoy a relaxing weekend, and we're going to give you tickets to the park, and you can go wander around. And I'll never forget pulling up to this beautiful, beautiful Bulgarian style Or actually, it's Belgium-styled sort of hotel with the big beams and the massive oak doors. And I mean, it's just really breathtaking. And I'm thinking, wow, I am really going to enjoy a nice, peaceful, relaxing atmosphere. And then they had these two guys, and they're all wearing the shorts with the later holes in, and they got the suspenders.

I mean, you may as well be in Switzerland or wherever. And I remember them opening up these massive. Massive doors. and as soon as they opened up those doors, it looked like Chuck E. Cheese on crack cocaine.

I mean screaming children and these these baby strollers that were really four wheel drive. And I mean it was moms and well, the dads were over at the bar getting drunk and you couldn't blame them because the kids were like bouncing off the walls. I thought, Jeez Aloo, where's the Hampton Inn?

So anyway, I go to get checked in, and everything it's all Disney all the time, which you would expect for it to be because you're at Disney. And they got the furry creatures wandering around. And uh who is it? Um oh geez a loo. I went to breakfast.

And oh, Caleb Park was with me on that trip, and he's now at Newsmax. Caleb was a longtime regular, a part of our staff here for years. And so we were um we went to breakfast and I thought, well, at least we'll enjoy a nice quiet breakfast. Nope, can't do it. You're at Disney.

All of a sudden, this announcer comes on. I remember, I'll never forget. I sat down, I had my plate of eggs and my bacon, and I don't know, it cost 30 bucks. They didn't even have biscuits. I mean, what the heck?

What's the point? And so all of a sudden, I'm sitting there and I'm about to chow down into the $30 scrambled eggs. And the announcer comes on. Ugh. Ladies and gentlemen.

Boys and girls, please welcome the Chippendale review. And I'm like, what? Chippendale. I didn't, I thought we were. What kind of a place is this at Disney?

Chippendales? What are you kidding me? They've got male strippers at Disneyland? But it turned out to be um These two giant furry creatures. And uh they cap they called them furries.

Is that what they call them, uh, Dylan? The furries. And uh anyway, one was named Chip and the other was named Dale. Have you not seen the cartoon, Todd? No, I haven't seen Chip.

That makes more sense.

Okay. Well, yeah, at that point, but you never know. I mean, they've gone woke. It wasn't out of the realm of possibility that male strippers were about to come dancing through the buffet line.

Some of these furry costumes look very close to Disney characters.

So I can imagine.

So, anyway, I'm like, I'm really, I get, this is terrible. I get creeped out. You know how some people get really creeped out by clowns? I get creeped out by the people in those furry costumes. It just freaks me out.

I don't know what it is. I'm a grown man, right? But something just really freaks me out. And so, anyway, they're dancing around, and you know how you get that feeling in the pit of your stomach where you just want to be left alone. I just want to enjoy my $30 scrambled eggs in peace.

And you know they're coming for you, right? You know, they can tell, and I think they can sniff it out. The furry people, they can tell when there's somebody in the crowd. That doesn't like them. And I am getting to the point of what this is all about in a minute.

Well, sure enough, I'm sitting there eating my breakfast. The next thing I know, I've got one of these critters just staring me down. And I look up and they're wanting me to dance. They they were wanting me to to get up and dance in the in the buffet line at Disneyland. And I wasn't going to do it.

But then they yanked me up. And I'm sitting here and I'm like grossed out because I don't know where that paw's been. I don't know what they've been doing. I have no idea.

So anyway. By the time I got back to my seat, my $30 eggs were cold. And I needed to wash my hands. I hate that place. It is not the happiest place on earth.

So, anyway, all that to say, so when I get back out, I'm getting to the point of this Disney story. Bear with me. Mm-hmm. So anyway. I decide, you know what?

I gotta go take a walk. And so I go for the walk. And honest to goodness, Dylan, I have never it was unbelievable. There were no children at the actual park itself. It was all adults.

Like adults who were wearing like princess outfits. And Mickey Mouse ears. It was like the adults were reliving their childhood. And there were no children there. It was very strange.

and somewhat off putting. Disney adults on a different level. It's a whole thing, right? It's like a subculture. It really is.

And most of them are good, church-going, rock-solid conservatives. Don't you be talking about Disney? I'm going to get hate mail. When I get off this show, my email will be filled with people. That accused me of being a ba a bad person.

By the way, what are exactly are Chippendale? Are they like rodents? I couldn't Beavers? They're Chipmunk brothers. Oh, wait a second.

They're both male? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize they were brothers. Chip and Dale.

Well, I wasn't going to look under the tails. That would have been inappropriate. I don't want to touch their paws or their backside. Oh my goodness. Wow, I didn't realize that.

Well, Dale could go either way. Dale is like a male or female name.

So they're not boyfriend or girlfriend? That's what I was going for. That's what I thought they were. I had no idea. All right, I've learned something new.

Thank you. Thank you, Donald.

So anyway, I'm out there and nobody, there are no children. And it's what really struck me is you've got all these people out there and going to Disney, it's kind of like you've got to you know, you got to walk a lot and if you want to get on the rides. But I there were more people riding those motorized scooters than people actually physically walking. And I kept thinking, where do these people because We get a How do you get on the rides? I mean, if you're gonna r what's the log flume?

Is that what they call it? I don't know what they call it. Splash Mountain How do you get a I don't know. Anyway, I just thought that was kind of weird, an observation. All that to say, Our friend James O'Keefe has a new story up, and this is kind of.

I wouldn't say shocking. But it is kind of shocking. They interviewed a senior vice president at Disney, and this is all undercover. And the senior vice president has. Admitted.

And he had no idea he was talking who he was talking to, but he said, Hey, look, um We really don't hire white people anymore. That's not our thing. We're not hiring, especially white men.

So the the Disney senior vice president Told James O'Keefe, and the video is going viral right now on social media. But he says that sometimes we actually we're very upfront with people and we tell them, you know what, we're really not hiring any white men for anything these days. And they actually tell them that. At other times they they don't. They just kind of leave him hanging.

So my question is Does this bother you? Are you bothered by the fact that a company like Walt Disney is intentionally not hiring white people?

So, if you're a white person, it doesn't matter, you can be the most qualified person to play Peter Pan. But they're not going to hire you because you're a white guy. Got a problem with that. America The guy literally said, There's no way we are hiring a white male. The guy goes on to say, Nobody else is going to tell you this, but they're not considering any white males for the job.

This is Michael Giordano, who is a Vice President of Business Affairs. There's no way we're hiring a white male. Giordano reveals that Disney uses code words and buzzwords. Honky, honky That has to be one of 'em. Cracker.

Jordano reveals that Disney uses code words and buzzwords to avoid legal action. And even mentions a candidate being rejected for not looking black enough. I wonder if I wonder how that conversation goes.

Well, Todd. You know, we we think you'd be perfect for the job. You you look just like Goofy. But there's just a problem. You're just a little bit too pale.

Can you can you hit the tanning salon and uh maybe come back in six months? Could you imagine that conversation? Jordano also admits she's alive. Have you thought about a perm, Todd? Real tight Jerry girl look.

Giordano also admits that Disney gives bonuses to executives for practicing diversity, equity and inclusion. Which means, yeah, we're not hiring you white folks. You're just a little bit too pale-faced for us. He says that diversity helps with financial incentives. Oh, by the way, speaking of that, I heard another report yesterday out at Disney.

They're saying the new, remember they got rid of a zippity-doo-da, zippity-A. What is the, there was a ride there that was all based on Uncle Remus, right? And they had to like completely destroy it because it was racist. That zippity-doo dah, zippity-a is code for something. Yeah.

Okay, yeah, it's code for gibberish. It's just gibberish. It means nothing. It means absolutely nothing, sir. But anyway, they replaced it with this: what is it, Rihanna or whoever, Mohana?

What's. Moana? Thank you. Who's Rihanna? Oh, she's the singer.

Mm-hmm. Thank you, Dill. Anyway, nobody's riding it. Nobody, everybody hates it. It's terrible.

What do they expect?

So, all that to say, if you're looking for a job at Disney and you're white, sorry, pal, you're out of luck. And my question is: at what point do all of the good Christians and conservatives of America say, you know what? Yeah, we're done with Disney. 901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

This is the Todd Stern Show. All right, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Todd Stearns Radio Show. Let's go to the phone lines: 901-260-5926, Connor in Boston. Hey, Connor, what's going on?

You know, I'm going to tell you, you struck a nerve with me with Disney. I'm. We I tied it with Disney. Um Everything they're doing in their parks and in their content. I mean, the last time we had a great movie come out of Disney, I can't even tell you what it smelled like the movie's from like Toy Story.

Are we back line? it's just the company's going to hell in a hand basket, and it's because they're doing woke this this woke politics. And there's focusing more so on that versus creating good products and good experiences. And I think it's time conservatives let Justin out. If you go woke, you go broke.

It's just going to stop. Connor, I'm just curious because you're a white guy, right? I don't think I've ever asked you. Hope that's not a personal question, but you're of the Caucasian persuasion.

So, I mean, the idea that you could be denied a job or a promotion simply because that you're a white guy. Mm-hmm. That to me seems unheard of in American history, but that's where we are right now. Yeah, I don't think it personally, I don't think I'd want to work for a company that wouldn't be based on my skin color versus my qualifications, but it just seems to me like they're diminishing their their applicant pool, their talent pool. if they're looking for somebody who based it on their skin color.

They need to look at the person who can do the job and get it done and get results for them.

Well, it's a fair point. And again, I get it. People love the Disney rides. They love the whole genre. I think a lot of adults are just sort of like embracing their second childhood or third childhood.

But sooner or later, people need to understand when you pay that money, you're going to support this kind of nonsense. Exactly. And that's why Disney Plus, or I call it Disney minus. We don't do that. I won't subscribe to it because it's the garbage that they're pushing and the garbage that they put on those upside won't support it.

Good for you. Did you know that Chip and Dale were brothers, Connor? Did you know that? Yeah. I did not know that.

So she learned something new. Yeah, we we that's why you're listening to the program. Yep, you learned that. That's right. All right.

And all I'm going to tell you right now also is God help Snow White, because I think she might be either getting a new name or might be on her way out the door at Disney. What's her last name? Snow White is doing something with the dwarfs. That's all I you know, I I don't want to go down that path just yet, but there's got to be some dwarf action somewhere in there. I don't think we want to know that.

I think we'll just leave it there. Or do we have to call them little people? I can't remember. It's all very confusing. All right, Connor, good hearing from you, my friend.

Uh Always a pleasure. All right. So Splash Mountain, Dylan has explained this to me.

So Splash Mountain was what it used to be, and now it's called, was it Tiana or Moana or Moana? Yeah, so it's Tiana. I thought it was Moana, but it's actually the Tiananmen. Oh, Tiana. All right.

It's not a wanna, that's a Baptist thing.

Okay, let's get those mixed up. Tiana. That's right. Just confused. All right, hang tight, folks.

So we're It's Thursday. All right, just bear with us, folks. 901-260-5926 is our number. That's 901-260-5926.

We'll be right back. All right, let's try to sneak in a call here. Let's go to Jeff listening to us on the talk station in North Carolina. Hi, Jeff, what's going on? Todd, greetings from North Carolina.

Today's a wonderful day. I just wanted to make a comment about Disney being so woke. As an employer, I find that the biggest challenge most of us have are finding employees. And I would suspect that if you want somebody to hold little Johnny's hand and walk him through the park dressed in tights and singing and dancing, a majority of Disney's employees probably come from the gay community. If they ever cut that tie, I would doubt seriously they would be able to staff apart.

Well then That is a fair observation. I will say this, though, and the question I would have, and maybe O'Keefe has more of this in the undercover video, but I would be curious to know about the white gay men out there. Would they be excluded as well?

So, or is this just white, you know, white heterosexual dudes? Yeah. I don't know that anyone would be excluded.

Well, it's all very fascinating. It's a mess, Jeff, and it doesn't need to be. But until the Christians in America rise up and teach Disney a lesson here, it's only going to get worse. Because right now, Disney says, well, we can do whatever we want to do, and the Christians are still going to come to our parks. Yes, they are right.

They will in droves. And it makes you doubt just how people actually feel about it. Yes. Quite frankly, what Disney is doing to the culture is a whole heck of a lot worse than what Target is doing. In my estimation.

So, Jeff, got a run, my friend, and thanks for calling in. It is. It's a cultural meltdown, ladies and gentlemen, which is an appropriate phrase to you, seeing how it is also the title of a brand new book. That is out um what is it? It came out just a few days ago.

Written by our good friend Bill Donahue, President of the Catholic League. The name of the book, Cultural Meltdown, and you can get a copy wherever you get your books. Bill Donahue, welcome back to the show. Oh, thank you, you're such a hero of mine.

Well, Bill, I you know you've been in the you've been in the trenches fighting the the Culture War long before I ever got to Fox, long before Fox got rid of me, and you're still there fighting every single day, and you don't back down, and we need more people fighting like you, sir.

Well, we do. I don't know what's wrong with Christians, that too many of them are lax, but. Let's face it, we do have groups like Moms for Liberty and others who have been ignited now. And I think this is encouraging. I in the book, Cultural Meltdown, I'm basically saying that we're in a standoff.

About half the country believes in the Judeo-Christian ethos. We believe in God, we believe in human nature, we believe in truth. We believe in moral absolutes. We believe in the limitations of the human condition. And then the other half The secularists, they're smart.

They're so smart they don't need God. The human nature doesn't exist. Truth is a fiction. Everything should be morally relevant. Make up our own mind about what's right and wrong.

There's no limitations to the human condition. We can create nirvana right here on earth. And you know, the the secular idea has been tried and it's failed. It's failed every place it's ever been tried. And it's infecting the Western world right now.

And I I am not Pollyannish. But there are some encouraging signs that are that are taking place.

So what are some of those signs, Bill, that things may be looking up? I have one, probably the biggest chapter in the book is called Transgenderism: the gender ideology, the idea that a man can become a woman, a woman can become a man. You can't do it. It's impossible. Sex is binary.

We're not talking about gender here. As a sociologist, I take great umbrage of people who say, well, this is a matter of gender. And gender means socially learned norms and values appropriate for men and women. What we're talking here is not about your sex being assigned. No one ever assigns your sex.

Is determined by your father and your father alone. This is biology 101. Christians need to make the argument. that the elites in our society are anti-science. It's not Christians.

who are anti-science. It's the elite secularists in our society who believe there is fifty nine different kinds of sexes and the like and that we men can get pregnant. That's an exact quote from the American Civil Liberties Union.

Now we all know this is a lie. It's a lie that's rooted in postmodernism. Which means that there's no such thing as truth. And once you believe that there's no such thing as truth, then of course, yes, you can believe Tommy can think that he's Sally and Sally can think that she's Sam, but I am not going to believe it, and you're not going to believe it, and we should not obey these people. We need to be defiant and say no.

Time out. And I don't want to get too far off of the topic here, but as a very recent, and we were talking about this with Mike Huckabee just a little while ago, a great example of that idea of there's no such thing as absolute truth. Look at what the administration is doing right now. They're saying that anybody who believes Biden is dealing with dementia or senility or whatever, those people are off their rockers. It's not true.

Don't believe what you see in these videos. Yeah, it's all gaslighting.

So they're all liars, and they know better. And we have to be defiant. I went for a routine doctor's exam about a year ago, and they had a big Hopeful page on am I male, female? Do I belong to some other group and this and that? And fill out all this stuff.

And I just put a big X through it. And I said, This is nonsense. And I gave it to the girl. She started laughing, and some other women started laughing too. They said, You know, other people are afraid to do it.

I said, I'm not.

Now, if your boss wants to have a problem with me, bring him out right now. 'Cause I'm not going to put up with this, okay?

Now they're learning in Europe. They're way ahead of us. They're learning in Europe that this is child abuse, and they're cutting back on it tremendously. In last place, is the United States and Canada.

Now, one of the things that I know you cover in the book, there are a lot of people that get triggered when we say, well, America is the most exceptional nation on earth. And they're saying, no, no, no, we're all equal. You actually addressed that issue, whether all cultures and civilizations are morally equal. What did you find out?

Well, as a matter of fact, and I I have it's a great little anecdote back in the early nineteen nineties. I was teaching in Pittsburgh and I was now addressing PhD PhD students from Carnegie Mellon University, one of the renowned universities. And after I gave a speech, a couple of guys came up to me and they said, you're really proud to be an American. I said, yeah, I am. I'm a veteran, and I love America.

I said, but you you feel a little bit different.

Well, yeah, of course. I said, Let me let me ask you something. You think that all cultures are equal. That's right. I said, No, so we can't make any moral distinctions.

Between Western civilization and any other civilization, between America and any other guy? He said, Now you got it. I said, I think I got it. I just want to be clear. I got to ask you one question.

In this country, we put pizza into ovens And in Nazi Germany, they put Jews into ovens. That's a matter of different strokes for different frogs. Is that right?

Oh my God, you should see him. They got nervous. I said, what's the matter? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not what we mean. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's exactly what you mean. What I said is a logical conclusion from the premise which you gave me. Maybe it's time you began to rethink all these shibboleths that you've been believing, this nonsense. Of course there's a difference between our country and others. And by the way, you say there's no such thing as truth.

Guess who believed that there was no such thing as truth? And he literally said it. His name is Adolf Hitler. All right. I mean, we these these these savants, uh, these rubes that are in the colleges and university I spent sixteen years as a professor, I know them well, and twenty years on the board of directors of the National Association of Scholars.

Many of them are good people. But many of them have literally gone off the reservation. I quote in chapter two a situation where I quote a professor, Laurie Calhoun. She's a postmodernist. She believes the truth is a fiction.

She was asked by another philosopher, I got to ask you a question. Are giraffes taken? Yeah. And her answer? No.

It's a matter of religious faith. What? Yep. See, that's why I said we need to build more asylums. And if we build more asylums, we can take half the people working in the academy and put them in there.

We'd be better off. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that's being taught to kids in the colleges and universities.

Now and I keep saying this because people say to me, well, how can we change the society? Here's one quick example. The next time listeners, you hear somebody on radio or watch them on T V. And somebody with alphabets after his name, okay, I got PhD after my name, fine. But be careful.

Be skeptical. If they say something that strikes you in the gut as being really bizarre, Trust your gut and not the expert. I say that because too many of the experts have gone off the rails. They're dysfunctional, deracinated people, and what they're selling is total nonsense.

So you might say, well, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a professional.

So what? Maybe you're better off. Trust if you've got good common sense. And that's what it comes down to. The people in the academy who teach in higher education, many of them do not have any common sense.

And they live in this fanciful world where they think that if they're in charge, they can restructure human nature because God doesn't exist and nature doesn't exist and we'll all have a better society. They've tried that under Mao. They tried under Stalin. They tried it under Hitler. And the body bags are pretty deep.

All right. The name of the book here, folks, and you need this in your library. It's a deep dive, and you need to read Bill's book. It's going to help you make sense of what's happening in our culture. Again, Cultural Meltdown: The Secular Roots of Our Moral Crisis, written by a good friend, Bill Donahue.

We have a direct link to it on our live show blog. But, Bill, folks can get it really wherever they buy their books. Is that right?

Yes, it's available on Amazon. And by the way, I'm very happy that Amazon breaks it down by different categories.

So they put me in one category with cultural anthropology, which I can understand. And then they have a list of the 100 new releases in cultural anthropology. Right now it's number one.

So I'm very happy the way it's it's taking off. And yeah, I tried to put in layman's terms I'm speaking to the average intelligent reader, not the professors. I try to put in layman's terms what happened to our society, how we got there and what can be done about it.

Well, Bill, congratulations on the terrific new book. This is going to be a great read. Folks, got to get a copy of this. Bill, we're going to get you back on soon, and always appreciate your great insight. Thank you.

God bless you. All right. There we go, folks. Bill Donahue, author of Cultural Meltdown: The Secular Roots of Our Moral Crisis. You know, maybe instead of building more insane asylums, we can just turn the universities out.

Get the sane people out and just fence them in. There you go. All right, hang tight. We got to take a break going right to our phones. 901-260-5926.

This is the Todd Stern Show. All right. Just got a note here from Wyatt Cox over at the Nevada Taunt Network. Todd Chippendale, they were named after the furniture, not the strippers. And they're supposed to be chipmunks.

All right. Well, thank you very much. I thought it was like a beaver or some sort of a. I don't know, a marmot, like a groundhog, maybe. I don't know.

They want to get close enough. Let's go to the phones. 901-260-5926, Kathy, Oregon, K-Y-K-N. What's on your mind? Hi, Todd.

Um Did that VP of whatever division of Disney just admit to a crime? I thought it was highly. Illegal Thank you. discriminate against skin color.

Well, yes, unless you happen to be white. And that does seem to be the caveat here. Because, Kathy, we've had a lot of these stories of mayors announcing, hey, we're going to be building a new school, but we're not going to be hiring any white people. We're going to be only hiring minority-owned businesses, for example.

So apparently, nobody really seems to have a problem with that.

Okay. Well There are Maybe oh, this is a little different, but maybe the reason that parents are taking their kids to Disney is 'cause the kids are begging them. They ought to take them to Dali Pardon. Oh, Dollywood. Yeah, Dollywood.

Yeah. Silver dollar city. I would say Chuck E. Cheese, but you kind of need to have some Kevlar and, you know, some ammo if you're going to Chuck E. Cheese, at least in Memphis.

Yeah. All right, well Thanks for taking my calls. Kathy, always happy to do it. Thank you for calling in. It's true though.

Dylan, you you know you I'm not lying here, right? It's it's been a while, but I've seen the videos recently. It's bad. That's right. Chuck your cheese.

Get yourself an AR fifteen if you're going. You gotta be protected. Let's go to Scott in Maine, WLOB. Hi, Scott. What's on your mind?

Hey uh I was just going to bring up the point that on the other side, they're always talking about the conservatives and the Christians, Republicans, whatever. That we're the ones that are politicizing the Bibles in schools, the prayer in schools. The Ten Commandments, and let's look at it historically. They're the ones that actually attacked all of this through politics and through the judiciary. It's not us.

And all we did is respond and say, hey, That's not that's not good. going to fly. And yet unfortunately, we can see what happened in history. The T Scott, the Ten Commandments are the bas I mean, when you look at Western civilization, that's the foundation of Western civilization, those Ten Commandments. Exactly.

Exactly. And you know, it's just it's really sad because even on a historical note, even my dad used to say years ago, well, why don't you just put them up and call them the ten the ten constructs? Or the ten But You know, don't just but you know, but that's that's the thing. It's just such an idiotic reality. And I remember as a kid when they took prayer out of school, I'm old enough, I'm 69.

And I just recall one day we were praying to our Father and the next day we couldn't. And we're all looking at each other as kids like, huh? And they wouldn't tell us why.

Now think about this, Scott. What do you think would happen if a public school teacher put up let's say let's say you had a gay pride flag in the classroom, and then the teacher puts up this I load this picture of an ark. with all these little animals on the deck of the ark, with a rainbow over the ark, I guarantee you the ACLU would be demanding that that photo be taken out of the classroom. Oh, absolutely. Only some rainbows are permissible.

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I I know, and and and there's God's covenant to to humankind, not just even the Jewish people, but to everyone. I'll never flood this world. You know, and there's my covenant rainbow.

All right. Scott, appreciate that call. Thank you for listening. But you know, it's interesting. The lady from Americans United, we held it, she never answered my question, right?

That's when she got upset. When I told her, yes or no, yes or no, and then she starts going off.

So she was trying to be this nice, kind, you know, thank you so much for having me on. And you could tell it was all an act. Right?

So when you started pushing the buttons, that's when you got to see the real atheist pop out. And that's what we got to see at the tail end of that interview. Because it's a simple question. If you're going to demand that the Ten Commandments come out of the classroom, are you going to demand that the Ten Commandments come out of the Supreme Court building? And by the way, it's not the only government building where they have literally chiseled the Ten Commandments into the actual marble of the buildings.

And they don't want to talk about that. But in all honesty, if she were honest, she would say, you know what? Yeah, we want that gone too. We don't believe there should be any references to the future. Yeah.

Anywhere in public society. That's what they want. They won't come out and admit it. The freedom from religion people will. They're radical atheists.

I mean, they're a hate group. They hate Christians. But I'm telling you, this is an all-out assault on Western civilization. And if you really want to destroy this country, you take God out of the public marketplace. And when you do that, you get the absolute chaos that we have here.

I wrote a book about it called Twilight's Last Gleaming. And I would encourage all of you to get a copy and read it because that's what's happening in this country right now. All right, folks, been a great day tonight, 5 o'clock Eastern, back on Newsmax 2. Hope you tune in. We're going to have some fun debates, great conversation.

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