Trump Calls Epstein List a Hoax, Blames Democrats

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Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's America's conservative blowtorch. That's it! That's right. I love this American. Do you remember when you were a small child?

Or maybe you remember it now? You were a little kid, and mommy and daddy were fighting. And it was it was not pretty. Mommy and daddy were yelling and screaming, raised voices, and maybe mommy was throwing dishes at daddy. Anybody, does that ring a bell with anybody?

Do you remember those days? And so maybe you were so horrified that you hid under your bed, or maybe you were in bed and you pulled the covers up over your head and you just put your hands over your ears so you wouldn't hear mommy and daddy screaming and yelling and calling each other names. Anybody remember those? Anybody remember those days? Or is it just me?

I'm just the reason I'm asking is because I'm getting that feeling again, that sense of dread as we watch this back and forth between President Trump and all of his supporters. And it's really just weird, man. Just really weird. And I want us to have a conversation. I know many of you.

I know you. Many of you, you love to talk. And you light up our phones. But when the Epstein stuff came up, everybody got nervous. And you know why?

Because mommy and daddy are yelling at each other. And it's really ugly, and it's getting uglier. And this is, it's, it's really a little mind-boggling. if you ask me, but I have a couple of theories and I want to run these theories by you. Because President Trump just a little while ago put out a lengthy statement, and the President is pretty much done with you people.

And there are a lot of people in this audience who believe that whatever is in those Epstein files or the black book, it all needs to come out. And now President Trump is saying it's just all been a hoax. It's all been a hoax. And I want to read to you what the president wrote on True Social. Uh just a little while ago.

The President said the radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like with the fake and fully discredited Steele dossier, the lying fifty one intelligence agents, the laptop from hell, which the Dem swore had come from Russia, no it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom. And even the Russia Russia Russia scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide crooked Hillary Clinton's big loss in the twenty sixteen presidential election. These scams and hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at. It's all they have. They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates.

Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue. And by the way, everything the president says up to that point. is absolutely, verifiably true. Absolutely true.

Now here's the rest of it. Their news scam talking about the Democrats. Their news scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. Yeah.

So I want to stop there for just a moment. The only reason And hear me on this. The only reason anybody ever talked about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal is because the Trump campaign made it an issue. That's the only reason anybody out there has been talking about. And this goes well beyond.

Remember, they campaigned on releasing the information, getting the information out there. All right.

Now, do I. Not once have I heard any indication or even inclination that this was some sort of or could be some sort of a big Democrat holiday. Hoax.

Now, again, do I believe President Trump's name was written into the file? No, I don't. I really don't. And I don't believe it is a hoax. I think it's real.

I think there is Quantifiable, verifiable evidence that very powerful, very well-placed, very well-connected people. Very wealthy people. We're doing horrible things to children. That's what I think is really going on here. And whatever it is, is so bad.

That it would truly bring down the government as we know it. That's what I think is going on.

Well, let me continue. That's just the first sentence.

So the President now says this is all a scam. And then he says this And my past supporters have bought into this B S hook, line and sinker.

Well, here's the problem with that, Mr. President. You were the one holding the fishing rod. You were the one, mister President, that went out there fishing with the story on the campaign trail, not us. We didn't bring it up.

You did, mister President. The president again talking about all of you people who believe there is an well, it's called now the Epstein hoax. He said, You people, you MAGA World, you haven't learned your lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left rather for eight long years. And then he goes on to say this: I have had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history. And all these people.

Want to talk about with strong prodding by the fake news and the success star of Dims is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. Let these weaklings talking about you and MAGA world. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work. Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore.

So the president is saying: if you are a member of MAGA, And you believe in the Epstein files, then he doesn't want your support anymore. He's done with you. He is taking the welcome mat and he's dusting it off and he is going to Mar-a-Lago. You are dead to him, is what the president is saying here. This is.

I die. The President again says. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work. Don't even think about. Talking of our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. He also said, make America great again. And I agree with that. Look, I.

So now everybody's losing their collective minds today. All of this happening in the past, well, couple of hours. And my question, ladies and gentlemen, what do you think is really going on here? I mean, Dan Pongino literally built most of his career on this issue. And now the president is out there saying anybody who's ever talked about this has somehow been colluding with the Democrats.

To advance this hoax. I mean, is it? Is it possible that it's a hoax? I mean, I guess so, but I'm telling you, I think there's a lot more to this. A lot more to this.

Tom Fitton is our friend over at Judicial Watch. Oh, and by the way. Before I get to Fitzin's comments, there is a brand new CNN poll that shows only 3% of the public and 4% of Republicans. Are you ready for this? Again, 3% of the public.

4% of Republicans are satisfied with the amount of information the government's put out about the Epstein case. That means. 96% of Republicans are not happy with this. Tom Pitten was on C-Span. Earlier today, he says, I don't think the Justice Department and the FBI have the confidence of the American people to get to the bottom of any of it.

But at this point, there's nothing there to get to the bottom of. President Trump just announced to the world: folks, don't believe your lying eyes. There never was an Epstein case. It was all a big fat hoax. There's nothing to it at all.

None of this ever happened. Do you believe that? Do you believe that? It's President Trump is basically saying I mean, it's not basically, he's coming out and telling you, if you believe That there's a list. Then You're done.

You're dead to him. That's what the President is saying here.

Okay. Folks, I'm telling This is not good. It is not good. I'm just trying to tell you, this is not good. Because this is an administration that has been preaching transparency.

Yeah.

And a lot of people are taking this as President Trump giving the middle finger to his base. And I think the president, look, I get it. He's frustrated. This story will not go away. It's only getting worse.

Charlie Kirk, by the way, and if Trump wants to lash out at somebody, he needs to pick up the phone and call Charlie Kirk because that's the only thing that the TPUSA gathering over the weekend was about. And that's where all of that they just literally poured gasoline onto all of this during that conference in Tampa. Megan Kelly now calling out Trump supporters blinded by loyalty to the president on the Epstein issue. On the Tuesday edition of The Meghan Kelly Show, She singled out Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, and Laura Ingram, accusing them and others of putting too much trust in the Trump administration when it comes to the Epstein files. You will recall that after Charlie Kirk pulled the gasoline and lit the match over the weekend, he goes on his radio show yesterday or Monday and says that he's no longer talking about Epstein.

So here you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Megan Kelly saying you now have some MAGA influencers clearly on direction of the White House saying, okay, I'm done. You had Laura Ingram go on her show on Fox News last night and be like, oh, well, you know, after the pylon at Charlie Kirk's turning point event, all the Republican infighting, and then she says it's time to move on. But Kelly said, okay, great, but Laura Ingrill was 100% responsible for all of this because she got up there. And that's the problem I have with me, ladies and gentlemen.

What you see is what you get. I call it like I see it. But then you get Charlie Kirk and all these folks out there and Laura Ingram. They all know where their bread is buttered, and that's why they're turning right now. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong, ladies and gentlemen.

We have always believed that on this radio program. There has to be something so.

So dangerous. In those files. That whatever it is, they cannot allow it. to get out. That's the only explanation here.

I mean, it really is. Otherw I mean, this is just this is Busha League. We are watching, and it's not a matter of the MAGA base going in the midterms and voting for Democrats. That's not it at all. It's MAGA voters so disenfranchised and so disillusioned that they just stay home on Election Day.

And that is a dangerous proposition.

So I I would like to think we're in the middle of the road on all of this. Because for years Trump and MAGA World have been leading the charge on this Jeffrey Epstein issue. And let me say this: and one of the reasons why is because the Republicans and the MAGA World folks actually thought that most of the damage was going to be inflicted on the Democrats if the list was exposed. I have another theory. I think there are a lot of Republicans.

On that list as well. That's what I think is going on.

So we're going to open up the phone lines here. Where do you stand? You heard what the President said. If you have any concerns, you're dead to him now. This issue is over, and you will either get in line or he's cutting you off.

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That's 800-839-8506. Use promo code STARNS. No, no, I call it the Epstein hoax. It takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had.

A great gentleman, yesterday, as you know, went on CNBC and he made the statement that Trump may go down as the greatest president of all in the United States. And instead of talking about the things we've achieved, we've had tremendous achievement. They're wasting their time with a guy who obviously had some very serious problems, who died three, four years ago. I'd rather talk about the success we have with the economy, the best we've ever had, and all of the things we've done, including the Middle East. I mean, you see it.

Instead, they want to talk about the Epstein hooks. And the sad part is it's people that are really doing the Democrats' work. They're stupid people. Yeah, go ahead. Wow.

So who are the stupid people? Are we talking about Steve Bannon? Are we talking about Megan Kelly? Are we talking about Charlie Kirk? Are we talking about all the people who...

Are we talking about Dan Pancino? He built his career on all of this. Talking about how we're going to get there and we're going to release all this information.

So we're going right to the phones here, but I want to finish this thought here. Every day we celebrate the incredible things that Donald Trump is doing on this program. Yeah.

But again, we're not worshiping, we don't worship anybody except Almighty God. And this is a problem. And again, the reason why MAGA conservatives bought the Epstein files hook line and sinker, as the President said, is because the President went fishing with that issue during the election. And here's the question that must be asked. We need to know.

Exactly when the Trump administration first learned the entire Epstein debacle was a complete fabrication and hoax. At what point? And by the way, why now are they just coming out and announcing all of this? When did they find out? That's what I want to know.

And what is the evidence that all of this is made up? It's a hoax. All right, let's go to the phone lines. I know a lot of you have fired up over this. 901-260-5926.

Let's start the day in Gainesville, Georgia, W-D-U-N. That's Bill Maine territory. Susie on the line. Hi, Susie. What's going on?

Hi, Todd. How you doing today? I'm good. Thank you for asking.

Well, last night, I don't know where I found this part. It was kind of late last night. I found an interview with Alan Dursery. And you know, at one time he was Epstein's lawyer. He says There is no client list.

He knows this for a fact. He said there is no such list And he said. The Justice Department and administration is no way to be blamed for any of this. And I believe what Alan Duswick said. And he said, there is some people out there, there are accusers.

and the accusees. And he said, you can find that. And he said, the problem is talk to federal. judges in New York are holding all this stuff and they won't release it.

Well, Susie Alan Dershowitz wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, and you're right. He said in this piece that there was no client list, and he said that there was nothing improper or even questionable about President Trump. And I've been pretty hardcore about that. I don't believe this has anything to do with Donald Trump at all. But again, if this was all a fabrication, I want to know when the administration learned all of that.

Because that's not what they were saying out on the campaign trail. Right. Right, I agree with you, I agree with you. And it it bugs me. It really bugs me, but I'm going to stand by President Trump so I just I'm just gonna stand by him and uh That's just my view on it, Todd.

And I appreciate you And I thank you for everything you do, and I thank you, Todd, for the truth.

Well, Susie, you're kind to say that. And, you know, it gets me in trouble a lot. I'm just going to tell you, it really does. I mean, we're not mean-spirited about anything, but again, people, I think, have legitimate questions about this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing. And it may be a complete hoax, but we need to understand the evidence and how they came to that conclusion.

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Terms and conditions apply. All right, welcome back. And we are going to the phone lines here.

So hang tight, but I want to go back to something our dear, the dear sweet Miss Susie brought up just a few moments ago from Gainesville, Georgia.

So. You had Alan Dershowitz, who was Jeffrey Epstein's former attorney, and he's out there now saying, well, look, that this was all that there is no such thing as a client list. All right.

That's the new information coming out from Alan Dershowitz. And this is the headline from the New York Post. Epstein's lawyer says there was no client list and sets the record straight on Trump. Nothing improper or even questionable.

Okay, that's what he is saying today. All right.

That's Alan Dershowitz today. and he said he knows the facts and he wants to make things important and clear. Epstein never created a client list. All of this in the opinion piece written by Dershowitz in the Wall Street Journal. All right, that was what, yesterday, today.

This was just this was just a few days ago. On Sean Spicer's show. Take a listen to what Dershowitz was saying then. This is not an opinion. This is a fact.

I have seen, remember, I was accused falsely, and they have seen. And ultimately, I was completely cleared. The woman admitted that she may have mistook me for somebody else and withdrew all of her lawsuits. And so, from day one, from the day I was accused, I said I want every document out because I knew every document would prove I was innocent.

So, let me tell you, I know for a fact documents are being suppressed. And they're being suppressed to protect individuals. I know the names of the individuals. I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them.

But I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and I can't disclose what I know. But I hand to God. I know, I know the names of people. Whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them, and that's wrong. Just out of curiosity, right?

There you go, ladies and gentlemen. I just wanted to hear that little clip there.

So the question is: okay, was Alan Dershowitz lying just a few days ago on Sean Spicer's TV show? Or. Or is Alan Dershowitz lying now? Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

You just simply cannot. All right, let's go to the phone lines. Memphis, Tennessee. Shann is listening to us on KWAM. Hi, Shannon.

What's on your minds? Hi, what's on my mind is: can I make a comment first about what you just said about Dershowitz? Yes, ma'am. Is he lying or not? But the question you have to ask is, why?

You know, on that why did he change his tune? Right, exactly.

Okay, but my point I wanted to bring up is If there's not a client list, If there is a client list, Let's think about that. That might not be the important part. The important part is What about the women that went through these ordeals? That suffered this. That are they all lying?

Did they make all this up? these poor young ladies that went through that. What's your viewpoint on that? I mean, you have to ask that question. I mean, that is a very important question because we understand.

From the federal government, there was a victims' fund to set up.

So it's not like these people are saying, okay. These are People who say they were victims, these are individuals who were recognized by the Justice Department as being victims, and they were paid out of a victim compensation fund. That number is that we know of is about 150 individuals.

Now, we understand some of the victims, Shan, were as young as 14 years old.

So, to your point here, Okay, if you've got victims that are being paid out of a Federal Victims' Compensation Fund Who are the perpetrators?

Okay, so what are you leaning to say that they were paid to say something? No, no, no. They were paid because they were victims. They got some sort of compensation, whether it be from Epstein's accounts or whatever.

So these people are victims. And to your point, if these people really are victims, that means somebody committed a crime against them. Where are those people? Correct. And are those people on a, not so-called a list, but are there in the information that Epstein had that?

Some of that stuff is even missing.

So I I find it hard to believe that it's a hoax. There may be aspects of it. like let's just take the list. There may be aspects of it that aren't real, but Something really happened. That I think the public should know Everything about because of these poor women that suffered.

And you're right. What happened to those people that mistreated those women? We need to get to those guys. It's a fair question. And again, but President Trump says, She's, and I'm curious here: were you a supporter of President Trump?

I'm not a I'm not really a party person, I'm a people person. And I when people start misrepresenting things, I question.

So that's the best answer I can give you. No, look, that's a fair answer to the question. But the president is telling his supporters: if you're still talking about this, I don't want to have anything to do with you. Yeah, I understand that, but why is he saying that? Come on, let the American people need some answers.

All right.

Those girls and women deserve it. That's all I got to say. Shannon, thank you for calling in. Again, 901-260-5926 is our number. Let's go to Thomas in Statesville, North Carolina, listening to us on WSIC.

Hi, Thomas. What say you? Hey uh I believe that uh No apparent things got on because If it was, Democrats would have been shouting at them every root out the world. But uh I do believe it is real. But the trouble is You got about seventy five percent of Congress Oh that leads.

What region is anyhow? I'll tell you what you do. You put a big old fence and some guard sentry post around the Capitol, and you've got another Federal prison on your hands. I didn't think about that. That sounds like a.

100% good idea right there.

So Thomas, President Trump says Got to move on. I don't want to have anything. And if you're buying into, if you think there really is something here, then you're a stupid person. What do you say to the president? Do I know?

I was 1,000% behind it.

Now I'm just 100% behind it.

Okay, well, that's still pretty good. I like those percentages. Yeah.

But uh I I don't like that. He Yeah. They've been people saying that there's something here, there's something there, not there. Right. Nobody knows that.

Well, Thomas, yeah, I hear you, and I still think the president, and we'll play some audio here.

Well, as a matter of fact, let's listen to the president. He was asked directly about the hoax. I think somebody, one of the reporters, may have been listening to the show. Let's take a listen. I know you want to move past all this intrigue over the Epstein files, but I do want to ask you to clarify something you said this morning.

You said this was all a hoax. Has your attorney general told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen? It's not the attorney general. No, I know it's a hoax.

It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Wray and these characters and Comey before him. And it's a bad group. It started, actually, look at the Steele dossier, that turned out to be a total hoax.

The 51 agents, the intelligence, so-called intelligence agents, that was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax, it's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net, and so they try and do the Democrats' work. The Democrats are good for nothing other than these hoaxes. They're bad for policy, they're bad for picking candidates that can get elected.

Like in New York we have a communist running. He may get elected too actually, but he's gonna he'll destroy the city. All right, so there you have it, folks. Again, I don't believe Trump's name is on the list. Is it possible?

Is it possible that the Democrats wrote his name into the list? Yeah, that is possible. It is possible. But again, I think they would have already used that information against the president. All right, let's go to Sharon in Jackson, Tennessee, listening to us on WTJS.

Hi, Sharon. What say you? Hi.

Well, my question is if you know, Jeffrey Epstein was a businessman. He didn't run his island just for favors. He ran a business. And what businessman or business in general do you know? that doesn't keep a list.

of their client. I mean, retail stores, they have lists of who you know who who their vendors are. They have lists. He was a businessman. And if there is no list, then why is Maxwell in prison?

Why is she saying that she's going to testify if there's no list? Why was that thing killed? Gershowitz probably said that there was no list to try and save his life. You know, they probably came out and said at the very beginning, there's no, oh, no, no, no, no, I don't keep a list, no.

Well, he got killed anyway, so what good did that do? But yes, I fully believe that he was a businessman who kept a list. But now, if there is no list and all this just flies under the radar and it just goes away. Maxwell should be released and she should sue the prosecutors and everybody who put her in jail. Because if there's no Liz, What crimes were committed?

if you know, if there was no um If there were no trafficking, if there was no trafficking, then what crimes were committed and why is she still in jail? Sharon, it's a great question. And again, she is serving a pretty lengthy sentence, what, 240 months in prison. And she was found guilty of abusing a scheme to exploit sexually and abuse multiple minor girls over the course of a decade. And she's been in prison ever since.

So you're right. I mean, if, you know, if in fact that's what she was guilty of, there have to be people on the other side of that transaction that you pointed out. And again, going back to a very obvious thing, Sharon, if you're running a business, you're keeping tabs on people. I mean, the mob did it. And all they gotta know who owns them.

You know, you know, he you keep you keep track of your favors. You don't just do things for the You know, for your health and benefit, you do it because you're making money. But if I were, here's the thing, Sharon: if I'm Delaine Maxwell's attorney, I'm taking what President Trump said today. He called this an absolute hoax. None of this happened.

This is all just make-believe created by the Democrats.

Well, if that's the case, I'm taking that directly to court and I'm demanding my client be let out of prison. Yeah.

So why you know, why who's gonna go to jail for a hoax? Great question. Shared, it's a great question. All right, we got to run. Again, folks, you guys are asking very important questions here.

And I understand what the president is saying, and we should be celebrating. But again, the question is. Pam Blondie. Did Pam Blondie mess all of this up? Is is she somebody who over promises and under d delivers here?

But it is a mess right now. And I can't wait to hear from Bongino and Cash Patel. And man, they must have gone into, I don't know, the witness relocation program. We haven't heard anything from those guys. All right, 901-260-5926, our telephone number.

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Hi, Terry. What's on your mind? Hi, good morning, Todd. Good afternoon. Yeah, it's great to hear, talk to you again.

I've kind of missed your program because I've been working and busy. And I don't know if you brought this up or not. But I'm listening to you this morning well heavy. And I've got a question. If there's government funds for the paying people.

For being abused than where those people at. What are the names? Why don't he come out and speak? I don't want my government money. go to someone I don't know and Don't have any reason.

It's got to be. More answers.

Well, there's more questions than answers, but I want answers. From from my government. Terry, I think it's a fair question you're asking. And I know there have been some of the victims who have spoken out. And again, And I want to share this intel with you.

The federal investigators have stated that Epstein victimized more than a thousand people and that Epstein's accusers That there was a compensation fund established for Epstein's victims, and they paid out between $120 million to 150 people as of August 2021. The FBI declined to comment on the details, the actual details of all of this.

So, yeah, not all of them are speaking out, but there have been some, Terry, that have spoken out. Oh, that's been something.

Okay. I missed that part then because I'm a little bit curious why is it more people speaking out. If this is real, Just like Alan Gershwin was saying, he believes it is.

Well, You know, I know you under pound by by a judge to keep quiet, but There's some things you just got to speak up about and set its record straight.

Okay. So this doesn't happen again. Yeah, it's fair. And again, that money coming from the Epstein estate, that's where the $125 million came from. Around 225 people filed claims that coming from Fox Business.

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Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's America's favorite gun totem, Bible-clanging, deplorable American. That's it! That's right. I love this American ride. Star.

Oh yeah. I've been thinking a lot about atheist. Hello everybody, welcome to the Todd Sterns radio program. I've been thinking a lot about Atheist. And you know why people don't believe in God?

It's because they've never had the pleasure of enjoying a delicious. Stuckey's Pecan Log Roll. Anybody who has been able to enjoy a delicious original pecan log roll from our friends at Stuckey's? They found Jesus. This is really just a wonderful little treat.

We got a package in the mail during the commercial break. And I thought to myself, what is this? You know, we always get a little nervous here when we get boxes, packages in the mail. But once we realize it's not ticking, you know, we're pretty good. We ease up a little bit.

So, anyway, imagine my surprise when I opened up the package, and it was a gift box from our friends at Stuckey's, the original Pecan log roll people. And I know many of you. of a certain age may remember the old Stuckeys. And before, long before you had Buckeys, you had the Stuckey family. And they started, this started back in 1937 in Eastman, Georgia, when Mr.

Stuckey, W. Sylvester Stuckey, it was his name. He had a $35 loan and he had a lot of pecans. And so he opened up a roadside pecan stand in 1937. And soon that evolved into a candy kitchen and a candy plant, and eventually led to All of these stores.

And I think in the 1950s and 60s, there were about.

well, almost four hundred Stuckeys roadside diners in thirty states, and they were known for their billboards. And it it was just it's a great American success story. Of course, things you know how things go. And but the the brand has been revived by the next generation of Stuckey family members, and that would be Stephanie Stuckey. And I was making a comment on the radio show just a few a couple of weeks ago, and I was talking about Stuckeys.

And she reaches out and says, Oh, my gosh, we would love to be able to send you A gift box from Stuck Ease. And I said, Yeah, sure, that'd be great. We gave them a dress, didn't think anything else of it. And then today we get this delicious and I'm telling you, Dylan, I know you're not a big pecan guy, but the stamp has gone nuts. I mean, they love well, I guess they have gone nuts.

Yeah.

Anyway, it's uh the pecan log roll. And we also got, I mean, we've got a huge box of stuff here: the Stuckeys Candied Pecans, kettle glazed. Is it pecans? or pecans. Or pecubs.

That's controversial. I say pecans. Do you yeah, see, I say pecans as well. Maybe northerners say pecan. Pecan.

Pecan sounds like a bird. Pecan pie. No, that's yeah, that's the northern version. And something called hunky dory, Stuckey's famous hunky dory. It's caramel popcorn, pecans, and almonds.

So, this thank you so much for sending this over. But I love their slogan: find highway happiness. We all want that in life, don't we, ladies and gentlemen? Stephanie Stuckey says every traveler is a friend.

Well, She hasn't been to Memphis. You haven't been on I-240, but who knows? Maybe, maybe some of the drive-pies, maybe all they need to start seeing the right way of life is to get a delicious Stuckey's pecan log roll. I'm just saying.

So, anyway, thank you for this, Stephanie Stuckey. And I know many of you, if you're of a certain age, you remember stopping at Stuckey's to get gas and get a good meal and get one of those delicious pecan log rolls.

So, we'd love to hear from you today. 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. I need some milk. I was chowing down on the pecans during the break.

Okay, let's go right to the phones. We have so many people that want to weigh in on this Epstein mess. Let's start in Athens, Georgia. Gina is on the line. Hi, Gina.

What's on your mind? Mm-hmm. Hey, Todd.

So I was just listening to your callers and talking about the list and all, and that's true. It really doesn't matter if there's a list or not. We know he had people that he serviced and so forth. But the problem that's made this so bad, which you well know. If When Trump came out last Tuesday, I believe it was last Tuesday.

And that Um Reporter asked Tam Bondi, and he distracted from that. And the way he did that, oh my gosh, that sounded just like a Democrat. There's something Biden did that was very similar. I'm sure multiple times, but that's what he sounded like. And you know, he really is honest most of the time, and he's going at this from a dishonest Um with a dish dishonest method and it's not working.

And because it's not working for him, he goes back to what he knows how to do, which is fight.

So now he's turning that against us. And the problem is, it had he just maybe even kept quiet, When that reporter asked that, and let her. get out of it herself. Which I don't know that that was a good answer that she gave, given that they had just released that. You know, the day before, what was it, saying that there was nothing to it, going away, no big deal, nothing to see here.

Well, he should have expected questions, and his response was absolutely not the response. to give. And I can't believe, I mean, he's lost his mind turning against base. Gina, you know, I know this president, and when he gets a B in his beautiful bonnet there on top of his head, he's not going to stop until he's finished. And honestly, it would have been a lot easier for him to have said, you know what, the Justice Department is investigating.

You got to talk to the AG about this. I'm not involved. Let's move on.

Next question. But he couldn't stop. He could not stop. And that was such a hard turn for him on this issue. I mean, he wouldn't have liked it had we treated the issues against him the same way that he's saying to treat this issue when everyone knows, again, why is she in jail?

There's obviously a reason that she's in jail and that he's dead. Epstein's dead. There's more to it than, oh, nothing to see here. And there was a reason why Epstein was in jail as well.

So it's, you know, here's the thing, Gina. And we're now entering this weird world where it doesn't matter if it's true or not now because everybody's going to wonder, and the Democrats are going to play the same game when it's their turn to have some sort of a scandal. Yeah.

And in my opinion, Trump has only made it worse. I'm just curious, speaking of hard pivots here, Gina, have you ever been to a Stucky's? You know, I was listening to that. I think I went years ago in my childhood, and remember I'm the same age as you, so that's been a while. But I have not well, it wasn't that long ago, Gina.

It's not that old. My apologies. It's been a minute, though. But no, I was listening to you about that convo. That sounds good.

I do remember that from my childhood. I remember going down. I was speaking in Albany, Georgia, for an event years ago, and it was funny. The airport, it's like literally a one-gate airport down there. They may have more now.

But I had to wait for the TSA agent to come and unlock the airport. To get out of there, but they had a pecan stand right there at the airport. I'm like, how cool is that?

So, you know, you guys do pecans well in Georgia. They do, and that's when we would get them, when we would go down family vacations down to Florida. We'd go to South Georgia and that's where that would we would stop at one of those.

Well, we were we were a big Pensacola Panama City family, and we always we saw the blue roof, and we were like, it's time for a Stuckeys break. Yes, exactly. I'm going to have to go to one of the new ones. All right.

Well, Gina, thanks for calling in. Appreciate that. 901-260-5926. Let's say hello to Richard in Murphysboro, Tennessee, home to Middle Tennessee State University. Hey, Richard.

Yes, it is. And my grandson just graduated from there. Oh, congratulations.

So I'm going to keep this short. Before I start, Big shout out to Doctor Frizil over at Briarcrest for a great rendition of our national anthem. Um And a shout out to Miss Janis in New Orleans because With Dexter on the way, stay safe, baby. We love Miss Dannis. Hey, Richard, let me explain, because a lot of our listeners may not be aware of what you were talking about.

Every day at noon, you're listening to us on our stream on KWAM, the news radio station in Memphis. Every day at noon, straight up, we play the national anthem and it is performed. We have an incredible a cappella rendition by One Voice, which is the award-winning vocal group at Briarcrest Christian School. All right.

Yeah.

And doctor Frizzell did one heck of a job with his arrangement of that.

So moving on to the subject of the day. Um I think Trump really hurt himself with the way he's handled this. I agree with you that he should have just said talk to Pam about this. and left it alone, but no, he didn't do that. Um One of the things people don't realize now is that all these demands to release the it's time files.

Um That's just going to mean that what you're going to get is that the investigative files that are prepared by the law enforcement. Those are misguided. Um the unredacted the raw files for criminal investigations aren't ever released publicly Um If you get any kind of release of material about that right now, It's going to be very selective. and it's also going to be improper. It's also never going to never going to satisfy Any conspiracy theorists?

Uh 'cause Once you release it, they're only going to have demands I want more, I want more.

So In a way, Trump is right. It's time to move on. But He really hurt himself with the way he handled this. Oh I include myself in that. Because I was really disappointed.

uh at the way he he seemingly just Blew it off.

Well um Kind of like, ah, nothing to see here, move along, move along. Um So That's my take on it and uh I know a lot of people here while they were training.

Well, Richard, well, I appreciate you calling in. And yeah, I think you're right. And look, I'm not beating the president up over this. I mean, he's made a mistake. Whether he acknowledges it or not, I think he did make a mistake.

And we cannot, and also, we can't let this consume the entire news cycle. I mean, there's a lot of other stuff going on, and we do need to get to a lot of the other stuff as well. But when you're coming out there and you're making these kinds of statements saying, I don't want your support, you know, Mr. President, we need those people. We really do.

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Got it. Take a break. We'll be right back. Uh We're gonna pick, mix, pick, mix, pick, make something come. Till the sun moves and we'll pick them all day long Right some open, put them in a five and the ones for a while.

We're gonna make fake, big, fake, fake, fake, come, fix, come. You know, I am all about Americana, and I love it when old brands come back to life. You know, that's what I that's what we did here at KWAM, the flagship radio station that I own in Memphis, Tennessee. This is a radio station, what, 77, 78 years old now? And it was the original home of Johnny Cash and B.B.

King. And also, a young fellow who played his guitar on the radio for the very first time, his name Elvis Presley.

Okay. And we were able to revive a once-dead brand here in the Memphis area, and we love that. And it's so exciting to see Stucies, the revival of Stuckeys. They've been around since 1937, and we just really appreciate the kindness sending us a little gift box in the mail. All right.

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Thank you.

Well, you know, it's really fascinating to watch what's happening with this mayor's race, and it seems as though Zoron Mamdami is really picking up steam. And I know you've got a piece up on Fox News about the Democrats and their identity crisis. And I really think what's happening in New York City is a great example of that. Yeah, it really is a great example of that. Nature abhors a vacuum.

I'm sure you've heard that expression before. And that's what the Democrat Party is right now. In terms of leadership, there is none. And this isn't a right-wing talking point. This comes out of a unite the country party.

Poll, and that's a Democrat super PAC, which is doing the polling. And they've concluded that the party basically not only is failing in terms of regaining its position with Hispanic men, white men, et cetera, all of which their polling with those groups is less than thirty-five percent. But the but Democrat voters generally say the party has no leadership and no message. And so when there's a void like that, in walks somebody who's slick, uh who's kind of reaching out to the new generation, the Gen Zers and promising free Free childcare and free bus transportation and rent caps and all these things. It sounds pretty terrific.

to a 25-year-old who's paying $2,000 a month for a one bedroom. Probably that's actually cheaper than the usual. And who doesn't know any better? Todd, I mean, this is the real issue. These kids have been educated in institutions that are so left wing.

That they think socialism is okay, and they think capitalism is cruel, and that it. rewards people unduly and that billionaires shouldn't exist and so forth. This is really bad stuff and it's really terrible, but it's in the heart of the most capitalist city in America and the greatest city on earth. How can we be standing by and letting this happen? I don't know.

It's just mind-boggling, as you said. And again, I'm not sure there's really a way out of this. I know Andrew Cuomo thinks he could be the savior of the city. I just don't think that's possible. I think he's just too tainted.

And it looks as though Mamdami is really generating the base of the party right now when it comes to these radical progressives.

Well, so there was just a race in Arizona, pitting a young influencer Gen Z type against a little bit more. seasoned Democrat and the seasoned Democrat won and that's like five in a row. Where these youngsters The socialist wing, if you will, get beaten by people maybe who know better. And the problem with New York is that uh that we it's not I would argue that had Mondani and by the way, even his name is annoying because it isn't Mondami, which is what is easy to say, it's Mama Dani, which is almost impossible to get right. Uh if he had come up against a reasonable Democrat Uh opponent He would have not won.

But who did he face? Andrew Cuomo, as you say, tainted? Yeah, I think so. He killed thousands of people by ordering them into nursing homes. When they had COVID and they infected nursing home populations, which we now know, and I think we knew then.

were extremely vulnerable. And by the way, he's also unpopular. People don't like Ando Como. I've had very distant dealings with him. I think he's horrible.

So that it's not like. Uh Mom Doni squared off against Some attractive establishment Democrat, that didn't happen. And I gotta say, this is a moment where. I am so unhappy with our business community in New York. Why don't they get Cuomo and Run.

You know, Jamie Dimon and Steve Schwartzmann and all these big hitters. Sit Cuomo down and say, You got to get out. We're going to make your life completely miserable in every way we can imagine. We're not going to ever lend you money for a house. We're going to do everything possible in our control to make you unhappy.

You get out of this race and put everything you have behind getting Eric Adams back in. Eric Adams is also a flawed candidate, to be sure. But at least he Has the backing of the Jewish community, the black community, and I think he would have a very good chance of winning. Liz Peake joining us on our Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line today. Liz, I do want to pivot, and I know you've been pretty outspoken and critical of Jerome Powell, and a lot of people they're just not understanding why he is not cutting rates.

Yeah, so I mean, I think I have been outspoken about this actually for several months, because if you go back and look at what he did last September, When he He pushed through not just a cut to rates, but a jumbo cut, meaning 50 basis points, which is twice the normal. It really, in retrospect, looks very political. And why do I say that? Because if you look at the inflation numbers and the growth numbers from the job numbers. there is a better case to be made today for cutting rates than there was then.

What would Jay Powell say in response to that?

Well, maybe, but we're going to have all this tariff confusion, and I'm sure tariffs I'm sure tariffs will lead to inflation. Here's the thing, Todd. He has always said that he is data driven. He is not supposed to be a soothstayer. He's not a fortune teller.

He's not supposed to be sitting around saying, gosh, you know, here are the five things that could drive prices higher six months from now. And we have no clarity, so we're just going to continue at very high interest rate. Levels, which by the way, has real impact. I mean, I think that's what people may not understand. It really impacts the housing market, for example.

And I have looked at a lot of Data recently on family formations and housing starts and all the rest. We are underhoused right now in this country, and it's very hard for young families to buy a home. Why is that important? Obviously, because they have to have a place to live and rents are out of control. But secondly, that is how you begin your financial journey.

You buy a home, you save, you put money in a mortgage, and nine times out of ten, or maybe ninety-nine out of one hundred, you end up accumulating wealth beginning with your equity in that home.

So that is sort of a real problem for the country, and J-Powell is completely oblivious to it. And the second thing is, Trump is right. It's costing the federal government a gazillion dollars that rates are so high. And why is that? Because Janet Yellen, who I think will go down as the worst Treasury Secretary in history, never pushed our debt out longer term.

In other words, we still have much, much too much short-term debt in the federal government. And so these short term abnormally high rates really mean we're paying too much on our debt. And it's not just me saying it's Danley, Drunken Miller, and other Really fabulously smart money managers called Janet Yellen out on that. And Dr. Collins said it was the worst mistake made by a Treasury Secretary in history.

And I think he's right.

So, you know, there's a lot to talk about here, but everyone also should know Jay Powell is not an economist, he's a lawyer. And so how Trump called him too late, Powell. I think he has been too late. both in trying to rate in inflation and now in terms of trying to help help the country kind of get back into a faster growth mode. And one last thing.

If you're going to be forecasting as he is doing and predicting where Tariffs will drive inflation. You also should be predicting where AI should drive the labor market because people are just like whistling past the graveyard on this. But there are thousands of people being laid off every week because of AI, and that's going to accelerate. And so Jay Powell's job is to make sure the labor market stays strong, and he should be anticipating that. All right.

Liz, great stuff, great intel, and a lot for us to follow. Always appreciate your good word and great writing. Liz Peak, everybody, and be sure to check out LizPeak.com for all of her columns and all of her writings. Liz, always good hearing from you. Thank you.

Thank you for having me on. Take care. All right.

There you go, ladies and gentlemen. And It's a mess in D.C. right now. And Trump is going to get it all fixed up. We just have to focus on the main things as opposed to all this chaos and all these little missteps.

That's what we've got to worry about. All right.

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This really creeped me out. There is there's a a horrible story about a One of these paranormal investigators. These guys, I don't watch these shows. It really makes me nervous. I just don't like it.

You know, the Ouija board stuff, you don't know who you're conjuring up, and I believe there are demons out there. I mean, there's a whole party full of them. Demon Rats So anyway, there is um there's a guy out there. He's apparently very well known in the paranormal world. His name is Dan Rivera.

And he was on a tour of America with Annabelle, who is apparently a haunted doll. Dylan, are you familiar with this? Have you heard about this? Unfortunately, I have, and I'm really terrified of it.

So the little doll, it's kind of like. It's not like Chucky. I guess it's the female version of Chucky. Yeah, but I feel like it's taller than Chucky. Oh, that freaks me out.

You see, they make them look like little midget people. Yeah.

And we can't.

Sorry, that's anoxymorrhy. But in doll form. But in doll form, right. This is So that's, and the thing is, she looks like the little doll, kind of looks like Raggedy Ann. Like Gone bad.

And it's very disturbing.

So, anyway, this doll, the name of the doll, the doll has the name Annabelle, and the doll is apparently possessed by evil spirits. Oh, jeez. Anyway, as the story goes, this all happened in Gettysburg. Is anybody hearing that music, or is it just me? Dylan, are you hearing music?

Yeah, where's that coming from? I don't know. I feel really weird right now. I'm scared. Hmm.

Annabelle Annabelle Me? Mm.

So, anyway, this guy's on a tour. His name is Dan Rivera. And they found him dead. In Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, in a hotel room.

Now The coroner in Adams County says there was nothing suspicious about the death. Nothing suspicious other than the doll sitting in the room with a knife, a bloody knife.

Sorry, About that, I just had to get that off my chest. The According to the Today Show. That there was nothing suspicious. The coroner's office and the state police were called to the scene. It's not a crime scene, but they were called to the scene on Sunday night.

They're waiting for an autopsy. I want to know what happened to that doll.

So the Annabelle doll, oh, here we go. The Annabelle doll was not present at the scene.

So is it on the loose? Are we s have we put out an APP? They said that Annabelle might have been inside a van in the hotel parking lot. It's always a van. There's always a van.

Rivers Rivera's death was announced on Facebook by the New England Society for Psychic Research. Not going to join that group. It's with deep sadness that Tony Wade and I share the sudden passing of our close friend and partner, Dan Rivera. We are heartbroken and still processing this loss. Dan truly believed in sharing his experiences and educating people on the paranormal.

His kindness and passion touched everyone who knew him. Thank you for your support and kind thoughts during this difficult time. It is a terrible thing. He was participating in the Devils on the Run tour.

Well, there you go. You're just tempting fate at that point.

So not only do you have a psycho baby doll in your car, but you're calling your tour Devils on the Run. According to the tour, it celebrates the work of Ed and Lorraine Warren. Who are the are they supernatural investigators? They're dead, I think. And they displayed Annabel on the tour for anyone brave enough to face her.

In 1968, the Warrens investigated the case of Annabelle, a red headed, raggedy ant doll given to a nursing student who brought it home where she lived with a roommate. Almost immediately the roommates noticed Uho, here it comes again. Strange occurrences With the doll. and they were introduced to a medium who told them the doll was inhabited by the spirit of a young girl named Annabel. The two roommates tried to accept the doll's spirit and please it, only to have it reciprocate with maliciousness and violent intent.

That damn doll it ate my sandwich again! I wonder if they made the doll, like, I don't know, pay rent. The Warren said Annabelle was demonically possessed.

So they came in, they were summoned, they removed the doll from the house, and they put it in a glass box to contain the evil spirit. Another famous case handled by the Warrens, a 1971 haunting in Rhode Island that would inspire the film series The Conjuring Annabelle Rises. And this guy thought it was a good idea to drive around the New England states with the demonic baby doll in the back seat. What is wrong with you? All right, I'm officially creeped out now.

I think I need to go eat another pecan log roll. All right, folks, hour three of the big show coming up next. This is the Todd Starge Show. Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's common sense conservative commentary from Todd Starr. Set us, that's right.

I love this American ride. And hello, everybody. Welcome to hour three of the big show. Great to have you with us today. A lot going on.

Yesterday on Newsmax, we had an interesting conversation with. Um With John Rose and Keith Self, both Republican congressmen, and we've been watching the Senate. Try and try and pass President Trump's rescuions package. It's just iffy right now. The Republicans do not have a majority vote, and they need a majority vote to get this thing through.

So we're paying close attention to this, but I want to play some of the interview with Congressman Rose, who is also running to be the next governor of the state of Tennessee. Let's take a listen. Congressman, good to have you with us today. Thank you, Todd. Thanks for having me on the Todd Starn Show.

And Congressman, before we get to this auto pen scandal, I want to get your take on what we just heard here. The Republicans and the Senate seem to be having some getting a little squeamish on cutting Sesame Street in Iraq and these vegan programs in Zambia. What say you? Well, I think the senators need to remember that 77 million Americans spoke loudly and clearly last November 5th, and they need to honor the wishes of those Americans who gave them a Senate majority, restored and Maintain our majority in the House and re-elected President Trump overwhelmingly. And they need to come through for the American people.

They need to remember that the President promised just the sort of cuts that we see in this rescissions package.

Now, Congressman, I know you've been traveling across the state of Tennessee. What are you hearing from your constituents and regular Tennesseans out there when it comes to these cuts in the budget? Sure.

Well, I think Tennesseans are excited about the president following through on his campaign promises, and they're excited to see Congress delivering with the passage of the One Big Beautiful Law. And they want to see the President stay on a roll. And so they would want to see these rescions passed. And I think the American people need to reach out to their senators, those who are balking here, and let them know loudly and clearly that they sent them to Washington to help the president implement his vision for restoring the greatness of America. You know, Congress, another big story that I know you've been following is this auto pen scandal.

How big of a deal is this that Joe Biden may not have been in charge of his White House?

Well, I think it's a very big deal, and it was one of the most common questions I got over the last four years of who is governing our country. And we now, with the curtain pulled back and the opportunity to see what was happening, know that there are serious questions about which of the decisions and formal actions that the president was purportedly taking, taking as president, which of those was he actually making the decisions on, and in which instances was maybe the chief of staff or other lower level staffers at the White House actually making decisions for the president without his knowledge. And so we need to get to the bottom of it. That's why I've co-sponsored the resolution to create a select committee that my friend Buddy Carter from Georgia has introduced. And I think we need to see not only Congress get to the bottom of this, but I hope that the Attorney General and her team will also be looking very closely at those actions that the President was taking in the final hours of his administration, pardoning literally.

Thousands, the most pardons I think of any president in history that indeed may have not been made appropriately. It may have been a White House staffer or the chief of staff or others who were making those decisions without the full knowledge or assent of the president. And that really brings into question the will of the people who elect the president of the United States. If they can't trust that the person who they elected is making the decisions, then we may have already lost our democracy.

Well, I know Senator Rand Paul on the other side there of the Capitol now reissuing a criminal referral of Dr. Fauci to the Department of Justice. If those pardons were signed by the Autopen without the President's final discretion, should they be voided? I think they should, and I think we need to get to the bottom of that. And even the Fauci pardon supposedly signed off in the wee hours of the night, late hours of the night.

And the question is: did the President even know that was happening? Was he making that decision? And clearly, it is hard to imagine that the president, in the condition that we now know he was in at that time, was literally pouring through the thousands, I think 4,000 or so clemency grants that were made by him and signed off on by the Autopen. Was the President aware of the circumstances? And what is the standard that we should hold our presidents to if they're going to use the awesome power granted to them in the Constitution?

So we need to get to the bottom of this, and I hope Senator Paul will press, and I hope that the Attorney General will press. And I hope that Congress will put in place a select committee, as Buddy Carter has proposed, to dig into the details of this and make sure that the American people's decisions are being made by the person they elected. All right.

That was just a bit of the interview we did there with Congressman John Rose out of the great state of Tennessee. More reaction is coming in. From MACA World, and a lot of folks that you people admire and respect. General Michael Flynn writing this, and he wrote it directly to President Trump on X. He said, Mr.

President, I hesitated to write this.

However, with the utmost respect and deference to you, for all you've withstood, few know it better than me what the deep state can do when they want to turn on a person. The Epstein affair is not about who killed him or if he committed suicide. Personally, I'm glad this noon pedophile is dead, but neither is this a hoax. The issue goes beyond all that. There are millions of Americans who overwhelmingly voted for you to be our President, and we want you to be massively successful, no one more than me.

Personally, I still have a target on my forehead. I know that, but like you, I still fight. Beyond all of that, our country is facing a level of internal subversion, and it is a relentless attack on the very foundation of our constitutional republic. If you are not successful, our country may not survive. It is that extreme of a situation that we currently face.

Read Lincoln's Lyceum speech of eighteen thirty eight. He knew, as you know, and as we all can see with our very eyes, our nation will not die from a foreign foe, never. If we die, it will be by our own suicide. This is coming from Michael Flynn. He goes on to write There is an ongoing undermining by subversive elements inside and outside the Government.

That is the essence of the deep state. All we want at this stage is for a modicum of trust to be reestablished between our Federal Government and the people it is designed to serve. That's all. An element of that is of great importance surrounding this Epstein affair is the fact that this man was a known pedophile, had a list of clients who represented the upper crust of society and likely did untoward things to children on his island, in his homes in New York City and New Mexico, and elsewhere. He was convicted of it.

Regardless of what class of society abuses and commits crimes against children, it is never acceptable. This is where this argument went off the rails. It's not about Epstein or the left. It's about committing crimes against children. If he were part of an intel operation known or run by our CIA, shame on them.

And those responsible must be held accountable. If there's another country involved, then shame on them as well. If there are elites inside our country that committed crimes against children, shame on them. They must be held accountable. Few know how many crystal balls you juggle on a daily basis, and I know you cannot drop any of them.

With my strongest recommendation, please gather your team and figure out a way to move past this. The rollout of this was terrible. No way around that. Americans want America to be successful. Therefore, we need you to be successful.

Please take this missive as though coming from someone who willingly and voluntarily fought for this country. against multiple enemies overseas only to come home to face my greatest enemy right here at home. You know precisely what I mean, mister President. God bless you, and may God continue to protect you from the dark forces that do exist. I believe you are put on this earth for such a time as this.

I completely agree with the sentiment there coming from General Flynn. We all want the very best for President Trump, and the reason why is not our allegiance to President Trump, ladies and gentlemen. It's our allegiance to the United States of America. And we know just how precarious our nation is right now. And there are subversive forces at work here.

And I think a lot of this could be resolved. by putting Pam first of all, removing Donald Trump from the conversation and bringing Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and putting them in front of the reporters for a free for all press conference. Bring in a lot of the new media. Let everybody in there, all the reporters, and ask the questions until every single question has been answered. And I think I think that we might be able to get the answers we need.

But based on what happened today, I'm just shocked that Dan Bongino has not already resigned. Because this puts him now in a very precarious situation. Keep in mind, Bongino built his career on all of this, and now we're being told it was just a great big hoax. And anybody who helped perpetuate the hoax is stupid. I mean, that's what the president came out and said today.

So, again, I think we have to remove the president out of this conversation. The president is maybe speaking without having all of the facts on this. We've got to get Pambandi, Patel, and Bongino before the microphones and just let them answer the questions. And then let the chips fall where they may. All right, let's go to the phones here: 901-260-5926, Newburn, North Carolina.

Louise is on the phone. Hi, Luis. Hey, uh, Todd. I have back Trump from the beginning. I have lost friends, I've lost family backing Trump.

For him to come out and say, Anybody who thinks Epstein's thing is a hoax Ha He don't want us anymore? you know, what did he say? He said If you think if you don't believe what I'm telling you, you can go away.

Well I'm going away. I bought flags, I bought signs for the yard, I bought t-shirts. But yeah. He's doing the same thing, these idiot Republicans we voted into Congress. are doing.

You know You get there telling one story and you end up But it's a different story. You know, we elected these people in Congress to back the President.

Now he's not even wanting us to back him. He he thinks he's above us? We got him there. We can take him out. I don't want you to do that just yet, Luis.

I think what the president wrote this morning was written out of, and you know how our president is. He just speaks, whatever is on his mind. There is not an edit button there. And he just put it all out there. And I think he's aggravated because people are not moving on.

And we can't move on. I think General Flynn really nailed it there. We can't move on because this is at the essence of what we are fighting within the deep state right now. I agree, I agree, and And this is part of the thing he got elected on. to bring all of this stuff out.

And to have a a government that we can believe for for a change. Before, we couldn't believe anything the government was saying. It's a fair point, Louise. But again, I don't want you to give up on the president just yet. It's all coming from a good place.

I think he was way out of line, and I think he hurt himself, and it was just an unforced error posting all of that on social media today. But again, I think all of this can be fixed if we get Bondi, Patel, and Bongino in front of the cameras for just a free-for-all.

Well, y I've made the phone calls you've asked. asking our congresspeople to do what we voted them in to do. And it's just, you know, it's disheartening. Yes. For us guys on the bottom of this poll, To hear him say, you know, I don't need you anymore.

You either agree with me or go away. What can we do? Yeah, look, it's a fair. These are fair questions. Fair questions, Luis.

And again, yeah, Trump, he can't run again, but you know what? J.D. Vance can. And we have the ability to win. But if the President is going to keep putting out statements like this, it is going to drag down the base of the party.

And let me just ask you this: Are you those kinds of comments? Does that make you more or less willing to go out and vote in the midterm elections? Last. Uh He's about ready to turn me off to voting for anybody. because you can't trust them.

I don't want another Democrat in there. Because we know they're crooked. I mean, they go into Congress having $12 in their pocket and they come out having $12 million. And then after one term, They get their their their salary for life. And three medical.

You know, retirees don't get their salary for life and they don't get free medical, and that's for sure. Yeah, so Congress was not designed to be a job. It was designed to represent the people. That's true. Luis, we're going to have to leave it there, my friend.

We've got to take a quick break, but thank you for calling in. Ladies and gentlemen, are you standing with the president here, or are you disappointed in your president? 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. I'll say this: I liked Congressman Tim Burchett's idea.

He's out of East Tennessee. He says anybody. Anybody that commits a crime against a child should be hung in public. String them up and hang them in public. I like that, Congressman.

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Miss Janice in New Orleans. And Miss Janice, before we get to what we're going to talk about with Epstein, you guys doing well? It looks like you got a little tropical action going on down there. Yes, we do. And in the moment right now, you know, here where I am, things are okay.

But later tonight They said we're supposed to have rain. And tomorrow and everything and Friday.

Now if it's if if all we get is the rain I mean, you know, I'm not going to worry so much about that. But I just hope and pray that we don't get wind. That's what kind of has me concerned. And one thing I am going to do You know, somebody was telling me, somebody was telling me, oh, well. Ye you know, a good tavern it.

I told them, I said, I will put the generator on. After this is over. I am going to go yes, there's part of me that would love to be able to sit in here with a light on during a storm. But I'm going to go out in a few minutes. I'm going to turn it off.

Because I am concerned. How about CO2 I don't know what the chances are that that could ever get into my home. Uh hopefully not. And I'm also, I mean, uh uh You know, how do I know about water? I don't know about water.

That's a good point. Ms. Janice, I want you to hold on a second. We'll pick up the conversation. We've got to take a break here.

But yeah, you want to make sure if you're running a generator, you got to make sure it is incredibly ventilated and not actually inside your home. Hang tight, Ms. Janice. We will be right back after this break. Lines are open, ladies and gentlemen.

901-260-5926. This is the Todd Stern Show. All right, welcome back. Let's go back to New Orleans. Ms.

Janice wants to weigh in on Jeffrey Epstein. All right, Ms. Janice, let's jump right into it. Tell me about Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I'll tell you that in a second.

I just wanted to tell you, my generator is not portable. It's a whole house. Generator. Oh, good. Like I said.

Like I said, though, if anything, when it gets in the house CO two or something like that, I can't go outside in the middle of the storm.

So I'm going to just turn it off and sit here with my lantern. And when everything is over, I'm going to turn it back. We don't have a lot of time, so let's get to Epstein here. I want to hear your thoughts. Here's the deal with Epstein.

Uh I have a name for Bondi. It's Bondi itch. And you put whatever letter you want in front of the word itch. I'm not going to say the word on the radio. On the itch.

Because, yes, she's bondy itch and I'll tell you why. She was either lying before or she's lying now. You can't sit there and say Oh, the papers are on my desk. They're right there on my desk and now you're going to be saying, ooh, don't exist.

Now, this This is utter ridiculousness and someone is trying to cover up for something. for someone. I I saw something the other day And it was being talked about on the radio. But I went to Snopes. website, and they're saying that it is fake though.

It's a picture of Epstein with a girl on his lap, Trump sitting next to him with his hand on her leg. But Snope says that's not true. That's an altered picture, you know, and I would hope so.

Now there was a man the other night. I saw him on YouTube, and he was saying that he had been in jail And he was in the same Spart that Epstein was in the same. place there. Not going to call it a cage, but whatever you call it. the the same area there that he was in.

And he said that there is no way that he committed suicide. He said he really does not feel that. And there was some video or something. that they had and one minute of it is missing.

So who's to do?

Well, I think now they're saying up to three minutes of it is missing Miss Janice. But regardless, going back to what General Flynn said. This is really not about The suicide, or the it's not about Epstein, it's about all the clients. And it's about very powerful people who did very horrible things to children. And I think at the end of the day, that's what we've really got to be focusing on here.

Exactly. And why is she saying, oh, the papers are on my desk and now it's Oh, there's no papers, there's nothing, we don't have anything, it never existed.

Someone is lying and this really stinks. And I hope that the people will keep on this and not let up. until the truth can come out. I really hope so. I do too.

Ms. Janice, got to leave it there. Thank you for that call, and thank you for listening. Let's go to Dennis in Atlanta. Hi, Dennis.

What's on your mind? What else? I've been listening and listening. I was telling you, Spotter, that one time I heard the report That Giselle is the real She was the real brains behind the whole thing and The whole thing with Epstein was just to suck in high ranking people. But when her dad, who was a UK Resident.

Died. Israel gave the man. Complete State of the uh Honor. Yeah, it was a state funeral. Yeah, that was Ghillain, by the way, is her name.

And his name is Robert Maxwell, who was a self-made tycoon, a media tycoon. And you're right. I mean, they gave him, the nation of Israel gave him a funeral befitting a national hero. Yeah, you thought he was Ben-Gurian.

Okay. And I just, you know, the whole point of that article that I read was that. She was the real Behind the whole thing, and it was just to suck in these. I mean, the current king of England was there. Yeah.

He wasn't a king then, he was prince whomever. And uh It just strikes me that there's some high, high, high level Stein going on, and that's what they're all hiding. They're obviously hiding something.

So there was years ago, this happened. I mean, the guy died like 33 years ago, and there were some allegations. Another Washington Post covered this guy because he was a very important figure at the time.

So we're talking about Ghelane Maxwell's father. And this guy was the publisher of the. I believe it was one of the big newspaper chains, and the author Seymour Hirsch had accused Robert Maxwell of actually working as an Israeli spy and an agent.

So, for the Mossad, which is Israel's intelligence agency. And so, if that's the case, you know, and again, I think people are saying, well, you know, Epstein was the one working as a spy, and he may have been. I have no idea. But there were documented allegations at the time that Maxwell was an agent for Israel. Yeah, and so she was the she's really She was really the brains behind the whole thing and they're and they're sucking I'm thanking people from around the world for crying out loud.

Yeah.

The senators do they caught their what their chump change compared to what so many other people they So, why do you think so?

So, why is that important? Why is the Israeli connection there? And of course, Maxwell. is Jewish, but why is that important to to the story here? You know what?

I don't know, but it didn't come out. It really wasn't. I didn't see it until the whole thing was Epstein. was brought to light. And it just makes me wonder Epstein seemed to be running this thing as a trap.

To get goods on high ranking government officials from around the world. Is is it Israeli way of of spying or Well, that's been the allegation. That's what people are now suggesting: is that ultimately there may be something going on. I mean, the allegation is that Israel was using either Epstein or Maxwell or both to get all this dirt on world leaders to use to their advantage and to their benefit as the nation of Israel. I mean, that's the allegation.

Yeah, and that that makes more sense to me than anything I eat. Yeah, I hear people calling in. You know, we're mad about, well, Trump was there, or this guy was there, Clinton was there. I mean, there was something something that really has not been brought out. Going on.

It could have been Israel. That's what they're hiding because You know, God knows we don't want to harm our relations between America and Israel. But uh I I think we're just you know, we're chasing our our tail like a puppy dog. when the back is high, high, high, ranking spine. And that's what they're hiding.

All right, Dennis, appreciate the call and the question. Let's go to Bob in Texas, listening to us on Patriot Talk 920. Hi, Bob. What's on your mind? It's about Epstein and the list and Trump's failure to let it out.

I mean, he campaigned on it that he's going to release the names and the list and information transparency and And then they withheld it. I think Bonnie, she was excited about doing it first. You could tell it in her the way her body language was, her the voice, everything at first. announcements. And then as time went on, it was like it changed, and you can see a change with her and what and what she was saying.

I think she was genuine at first, but then she's kind of holding back and having to not reveal what she knows, and that's probably why you got the big squabble with Mon Gino and Cash Patel. Um It's pretty transparent or obvious that That Trump is using this list or this information to get some of these people in higher places to go along with his agenda. And that could be. I've actually Bob, I've actually heard that that being thrown out there as a possibility, a theory here is that Trump has the list and he's using it to get his agenda through. Here's a good example of that.

For the first part of this term that Trump has been, Justice Roberts has been against him, voted against him. And I mean, he couldn't hardly get anything done and everything was like held up for the longest. In the last what, I don't know, six uh two six weeks, uh three months. All of a sudden, Justice Roberts and Supreme Court has been rubber stamping everything for Trump. You know, six three, six three, six three decisions and it's from the Supreme Court.

in um Trump's favor. And I just don't understand how Roberts had such a change of heart. without some kind of a uh persuasion And I just wonder if that's a part of it. I've heard that they're saying, oh, there's nobody on the list that is in office at this time, but there's. There's like Schumer.

I think he was on the list, and he's still in office. I know he's getting out, but there's several others. And to get and for to hit to get rid of the deep state, like he's promised and uh, you know, the to Clear the swamp or drain the swamp, he's got to reveal this list to get the swamp cleared. Otherwise, Trump is going to lose it in the midterms. The MAGA voters or enough of the MAGA voters are just going to be disenhearted and just going to stay at home.

I'm not encouraging that. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to go vote. Enough of them are just going to stay home and let it happen. And you know what's going to happen once they get a majority in the House They're going to be impeachment again and and the Trump agenda or MAGA isn't going to go nowhere.

This is going to be as major stumbling uh stone uh Trump has done this and this uh And he's done it to himself, which is the sad thing here. He's done this to himself. And I think it's really unfair of the president to go out and attack all these people who have been out there, and they have been loyal supporters of the president and his administration. And now he's saying, you know what, I don't, you people are dead to me. You're being excommunicated from MAGA world.

I think that's how Alex Jones described it. And look, a lot of this has to, I think a majority of the blame has to go to Pam Bondi and her handling of all of this. It has been unprofessional. And I've said that as soon as she brought in the MAGA influencers to the White House and gave them the binders. That was an incredibly unprofessional and inappropriate thing to do.

And I think at that moment, everything was undermined. And I'll leave you with this, Bob. It's also possible that Pam Bondi is a rhino. And I say that because when you look back at all the people who are congratulating her when she was Confirmed. We're talking about people like the Jeb Bushes of the world.

So that certainly raised, that raises a concern for me. Bob, good call, and thank you for listening to us. I will say this on John Roberts. There have been some allegations that the Chief Justice had been photographed with one of the Epstein girls. That turned out not to be true.

So we ran down all that information, and that just simply was not true. It was somebody else, but it wasn't the Chief Justice. All right, we've got to take a break here, 901-260-5926. Real quick, folks, again, head over to our website, ToddSterns.com. Help us raise money for our good friends in the great state of Texas, the hill country, devastated by the floods.

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All right.

Charlie Kirk. Our friends over at the Liberty Daily, they said, Did Charlie Kirk get the call? Because Charlie on Monday said, Oh, we're moving on. We're not talking about this anymore.

So today, Charlie is, so here's his Charlie's changing his position pretty much on a daily basis now.

So the latest from Charlie Kirk is that he's had a chance to analyze everything and he realizes there's really not much that there's not much difference between what Trump is saying and what the MAGA supporters are saying. Are you kidding me? This is, look, this is killing Charlie because he can't come out and say what he really thinks because he doesn't want to lose access.

So, anyway, it's unfortunate, but there you go. Wow.

Let's go to the phone lines: Statesville, North Carolina. The lovely Miss Patty. Miss Patty, what's on your mind? Whoops, I don't think we've got Miss Patty. All right, well, we'll try to get her back on the show tomorrow.

All right, don't forget, it's 5 o'clock tonight. We've got a jam-packed show coming up for you on Newsmax. It's going to be a lot of fun. We have a lot of great information, a lot of great guests coming up. 5 o'clock Eastern on Newsmax.

All right, I want to play some audio here. This is yesterday, Congressman Randy Fine from Florida. Really, doing a terrific job here of laying out just how bad the anti-Semitism is on university campuses. Cut number two, please. You created in the fall of 2024, you named Osama McDeasi the inaugural chair of a new endowed program in Palestinian Arab Studies.

On October 7th, McDeezi described the Hamas attack against Israel as, quote, resistance. Why would you give a job? See, I understand freedom of speech, but you get to decide who to hire. Why would you give a position to someone who said October 7th was justified? Why?

Usama McDeasi, Professor McDeasi is a fine scholar. He was awarded that position from his colleagues based on academic standards. Great.

So on February 5th, 2024, this great academic, you're showing the problem, said, quote, I could have been one of those who broke through the siege on October 7th. This is what you think is good. And then we're surprised when people come in here and behave this way. I'm going to move on to Georgetown. You've got a campus in Qatar.

I note when my colleague, Vice Chair Owens, said what would happen with a KKK student on campus, you said, yes, but. That's the problem with all of this. We believe that we should deal with racism, and we should. And I did a lot in the Florida legislature to do with that. But there should not be a but after it when it comes to anti-Semites.

So at your school in Qatar, you had a October 24th, 2023, an event titled Decolonization is Not Just a Theory. It was an exhibition of armed resistance in Africa in solidarity with Palestine. What does decolonization is not just a theory mean to you, and what does it mean to Georgetown? I don't have knowledge of that exhibition. This was a student-led event, Congressman.

All right, so Michael, I have 90 seconds left and I'm going to end with this. I have a 17-year-old who will be applying to school next year. He's in Washington interning right now. And how in good conscience could you tell my son, who is Jewish, who's the reason I wear this kipah, how could you tell my son in good conscience that he would be safe at any of your schools? I'll give each of you 20 seconds to try to answer that question.

I would deeply hope he would feel safe. And there's a reason for this at Georgetown. If Jewish students don't feel safe, if they have fear, if it's not just hurtful to them, it destroys our mission of interfaith dialogue. They don't feel safe right now. Your turn.

I have spoken to many students. We have recruited actively in the Jewish community at CUNY. I've actually began a program of extending a program that we have of recruiting in the high schools to the yeshivas, which is college now. And again, we have listened, I have met with the students, gone to Hillel, listened to their concerns, and I've told them that we need to do better. We have made the changes and we're showing the results and listening and being committed to their safety.

is something that I wake up every day to do. Yeah, I don't even need an answer from Berkeley given the answer to that question about that professor. I would tell you this, the Jewish students on your campus, they do not feel safe today, and you all should be ashamed about that. And with that, I yield back. Wow.

Well said, Congressman. And that's by the way, that's how you deal with that. My question is, why are we still funding these people? Right? Look, we are well beyond we're what, seven, eight months into the new administration.

Let's go ahead and start defunding all of these folks. Let's start the process of dismantling the Department of Education. Let's start returning control of our schools back to the state and local level. And when we do that, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to fix a lot of this nonsense.

So, look, folks, hang in there. It's going to be okay. This is a hiccup. It's a big hiccup with President Trump right now, but it's going to get better. And we're going to get all this figured out.

I can promise you that. All right.

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