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August 11, 2022 9:09 pm

Seeing Through the Fog

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Seeing Through the Fog

Steve talks to Billy Gotcher for Theology Thursday about seeing through the fog of this world. How do we get through?

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network mobile show were biblical Christianity meets the everyday issues of life in your home, at work, and even in politics. Steve is an ordinary man who believes in an extraordinary God it on a show, there's plenty of grace and lots of three no sacred call Steve now 86 34 true 866-34-TRUTH or checking out online, Steve Noble now here's your host Steve Noble okay well let me reminisce what leverage of the second lets his reminiscences go back in the little bit of time to simpler days, easier days and less confusing days. I would say that would take us back to what January 2020 and of course, February and March 2020 we get into coalbed get introduced to this thing called COBIT and these people called Burke's anthology and then Memorial day we get to Minneapolis and George Floyd in the way the BLM that summer and everything going on in the way of the election that fall, followed by election concerns and then we roll right into January 6 and so over the last 2 1/2 years in terms of like what I do not only hear on the radio but in teaching students, high school students predominantly.

I would say that the number one thing that I needed and asked the Lord for as I've engaged all these topics is discernment and trying to understand what is true and what is not. And of course you everything it kind of what we see in the natural world. I like and that to a glacier. You see what's above the water, that's what we see when you turn on the news or what have you got spiritual underpinnings and spiritual reality underneath and inside everything. So that's the rest of the that's the rest of the iceberg that's under the water. The top of the iceberg is what you can see the rest of it underneath the spiritual and it's hard to tell spiritually for a lot of people. For a lot of us because we need discernment and that's certainly something that is a big deal for me. It should be a big deal for you. I think it's a big deal for all of us, perhaps more, now that has been at any time in my adult life as a Christian.

And so today on theology Thursday back with Dr. Billy Goucher who is that the BG seminary down there in Greenville, South Carolina to be working our way through just an excellent blog post, which I shared on my social media pages just recently seeing through the fog. A lesson on discernment because this is something that we all need lesson we talk to Billy you guys were in the middle of at the tail end of a road trip driving back from Detroit so it's good to see again how are you were doing well pleasurably with you. Thanks for your welcome.

It's great to have you and this is a really important topic within our work our way through this, but wanted to start off with. This is a really kind of a powerful and a sad example of a lack of discernment involving a very famous person who actually died as a result of this, but let's start there and then. I know you have kind of a personal story on the same same basic subject. Yeah, without tragic event took place with the decision to flyer no-fly foggy situation was 11 people you and that the decision to fly that terrain visual situation that fog.

We know the horrible outcome of that decision just illustrates at times how we we can get the story. I guess I make the analogy back to me of so many people speaking right now, especially with you know just voices loud and saying very contradictory things in the Spencer creates a major fog about where is truth found Becky right where the worst of truth teller, or for that pilot is where's the ground he was trying to fly the helicopter the ground he thought it was climb right and reason any of us even know that stories is one of the people on board that died that day which is January 26 again back in 2020 was Kobe Bryant and then of course the question is how can this lot. How can this experienced licensed helicopter pilot crash into the mountains surrounding LA you ever been out there. Yeah there's mountains around there but they're pretty obvious, but then that's a question of discernment, whether they were to flyer not defined in the LAT one was kind of a little confusing that they run and fog bank spoken with. We worse was probably not long before this happened but I was scheduled to take flight small aircraft go to a conference in everything was good in the night before. A cold front rolled in.

So the next morning the pilot stays major fog bank and they called early warnings were not taken extra and they could flight instruments they didn't have to spend on visual but they said the conditions for flying with such a level they they were saying were to be safely canceled trip and I want to say at that moment I was more disappointed than happy to go I was excited about the trip in the conference and all that on and then this happens a few months later and I'm like I praise the Lord.

These men, they were not risking life for calm yet because that discernment will in that case can save somebody's life, at eight you can lose somebody's life as it did Kobe Bryant do for us just making the wrong decisions.

Having the wrong opinion create creating a stress and attention in your life that perhaps doesn't even need to be there and when Paul was writing in the book of Colossians and you write about this extensively. Billy and today's blog post which will share on Facebook live here in a second. That's what was going on. You mentioned fog.

There was a whole bunch of fog.

There for the people in Colossae yeah I mean you have the fledgling church got new revelations being given the apostles writing you don't, but then you have a perfect environment for people who claim to be a source of authority and their offering other opinions about the gospel of life and Paul's having right into that and say what we do when there's confusion. There's fall, how to navigate and I think that's what Colossians chapter 3 is such a beautiful answer. A biblical answer to the confusion of the foggy faces pointing the direction and any mention in the blog. The battle of ideas waging in our culture is the biggest threat to Christianity in your lifetime.

I agree in my own and especially for our younger people you guys deal with this down at BG seminary and is obviously at Bob Jones University an ideal of that with my own students that they have so much coming at them there so many ideas so many philosophies so many so many truth claims coming at them through this iPhone that I'm holding up on the screen right now, or through your MacBook or PC or whatever. If you have discernment in and in our young people are getting so much information and that their age they lack wisdom and discernment. It's really dangerous, especially when Everett with every source of authority is under that and so is basically ending. Philosophically, they're being taught.

You are your source for that's right, that the great value in society is to be authentic media you and as you identify with whatever that authenticity looks like. I'm told that my only write more responses to Frank's and if I don't affirm.

Somehow, I'm now I'm hurting, that's right, harm that's right because I didn't affirm their identity is not looked at it got really answer the question yeah working again that on the other side of the break in this problem of identity which the lack of discernment. I just watched the video of the Boston Children's Hospital not say about Noblesville theology Thursday with our friends at BJ's South Carolina.

By the way where we're referencing as we do every week and I mention this in your yeah I know but I want you to go check this out for yourself because we always have each week our guest from BG seminary sometimes from the University, writes a blog post. This is under the seminary viewpoints that we use is kind of the outline is our main points of going to this conversation every Thursday just a very rich content we doing a very conversational way.

But if you want to read the blog which also has links not Scripture references all can stop in and you should share these things because like I mentioned in an Billy goat you're here with us today as well.

We both mentioned discernment. This is one of the chief things that we all need today because we have so many truth claims summary philosophies so much stuff coming at us that it's kinda harkening back to the old days of the Secret Service because their job originally was to deal with counterfeit money and what they did was studied real money all the time. So when the counterfeit stuff showed up there like oh that's fake I can tell that well. If you have a robust Christian worldview.

When all this garbage is coming at you, which is obviously not dressed up as garbage is dressed up as as a good and wholesome and loving and kind Billy mention the whole gender confusion issue and by affirming somebody you're being loving and kind. Some people go so far as to say that's good good Christian characters course being loving and kind and you want to build people up and love them right where they're at the end of validate their authentic self. What all sounds nice and it has emotional pleas but is it based in truth and so that's where we have a Christian worldview, discernment, what will help take you through the filter by which everything comes through your brain and we got some stuff coming at us, which is why this is so important, especially with our younger Christians and talking college, high school and below because they've got a ton of information coming at them every day that is not godly is not biblical. The source of authority is themselves or it's tick-tock or whatever and so discernment is a real real big deal so that's why were working our way through this today seeing through the fog. A lesson on discernment Billy goat again, thanks for being with us today.

The first main point. We get into here at the blog post is discernment begins with identity. Knowing who you are. Where were looking at the book of Colossians here and that's that's a big deal when the fog of unbelief makes you doubt truth stop and remember her. You are I think sometimes we forget that God love the way Paul begins at that section, just as he really stops the quashing party laid out the chapters, some the issues they're facing the influences and that he just stopped.

If you've been raised with Christ, you stop trying to say if I don't think you have you actually try to see if I believe what he does his own purpose, because it is meant to make us stop and say this is true is this why have I been raised new life in Christ and that's that's the first thing that rings throughout this chapter, you think, who are you, you're raised in Christ. Now this is how we live.

This is how we know truth. This is how we discern because if you're new in Christ. This is walked right this now is how you live so you know the truth or discern from the unbelief fall to be talking about this tomorrow. The bunch of young men that are starting school private school here in town called iron Academy and and they have will always conduct myself as a gentleman live pure speak true right wrong and follow the king I'm doing. I'm doing the fall of the King part and that's why this is so important in Colossians 31 if then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above okay if you're Christian then you're in a different kingdom now you're not in the world's kingdom.

You're not a little taking them here in the K kingdom which means you have a different operating system as I referenced earlier ability and so that that then tells you when you mention this before what your source of authority is it yourself is that the world is the popular opinion is its Republican Party, the Democrat party. Whatever but for us as Christians are source of authority really our only source of authority ultimate source of authority is that the Scriptures is the word of God and Christ to skate right it's like living for the king's gutters that you been raised with Christ, your new your new wing that's just such a blessing to me for me to be reminded constantly by myself I was raised from spiritual death. I was raised from a place I was blinded by soon.

That's not Wyoming.

Yeah, because my eyes been opened, truth the King of glory, who is seated at the right hand of God, who has been the approval of God, which is what I all we really want that one who house it has set me free from blinding and if I set my eyes on him.

I actually that's really what is called to do doing that I can discern my next step in the midst, especially knowing who you are such an important point. Have you ever have you ever been to foreign countries.

Billy where English was not the primary language. Yes, I can over training national pastors in several different countries yet so number of times so it's amazing how obvious it becomes to yourself that you're an American like I don't fit here.

This is cultures different languages different. I don't know where I'm going.

I've asked for directions. Maybe I'll trust me don't trust Google. Maybe I won't. But it's really obvious when you go to a foreign land that that's not your home. I think one of our challenges here is to this point equally single yeah I know I'm I know I'm in Christ.

Galatians 220 I get it I'm in Christ but you forget that even here in America. This is your home and we get way too comfortable way to ground rules yeah and all offers constant nonstop is nonstop voice of options of the opinions of affirmation of things that are not true, not healthy or holy yeah and it's nonstop so you got this onslaught of information is bombarded at you that actually does have not neutral intentionality (right and we got this onslaught of racial but praise the Lord. We got truth tellers to and we actually can get truth through a lot of the same sources are given their we actually have a lot of truth tellers, but we do have to know the word of God right exactly right. And we have to be bathing our minds and saturating our minds and that worked in the word of God which has all authority because it's working right Trudy right you and we have the right authority. Now we start seeing through the Malays of all the garbage being aimed at. I don't get confused much anymore. At this point my life and 56 I was born again when I was 28, started getting serious about my faith. About 2002, so it's been 20 years now. I mean that the lies of the world, the culture, the spirit of the age. The Prince, the power the air at this point my life Billy are pretty obvious they're they're all like FLASHING red lights. Unlike that's bogus, but that but I don't think that's not pumping myself up.

I just think because I've been inundated in the stuff for such a long time that get that allow me to build discernment, but I think your average Christian is we are talking about earlier you going to church once a week and that's about it. That's not enough in this world. No pressure or cultures really push churches to you to do last. Yet rather than more, everybody's busy we are busy and I think that's one of the subtle things the devils done. We've all gotten you feel busier than we think we are don't have time. What we end up not having time for us to actually be in the word of God. One source of truth will never like we don't spend enough time with other believers in the community of faith discerning how to live and we wonder why were mass yeah that's right yeah you swimming in the culture all week and you think 45 minutes or an hour and Sundays enough and it doesn't. I was leading mice are signed in and five or six. His buddies were over, they come over Wednesday nights we go to Bible study in summer and somehow the topic of screen time came up yesterday new so I'm like okay, everybody plugs from smart phone to look here springtime the lowest was five hours a day. The highest was 11 hours a day screen time on a smart phone and I could blow them away with my own number but that's the problem.

Do you have discernment to deal that will be right back, back, and Steve Noble to Steve Noble, show theology Thursday as it is with our friends at BG you seminary today talking to our buddy Billy culture who is Prof. Donna BJ you seminary working our way through just outstanding blog post that you all need to read and we all need to share this because the issue of discernment is something that is such a premium. Now, as Billy wrote in the blog posts are culture like Colossus A's document the book of Colossians a Paul Road has lost its ability to discern which direction we are going a dense layer of fog has descended upon the American consciousness and making everyone more morally disoriented than ever before.

You see that all over the place just a few minutes ago before the show.

I shared something on Facebook which was appeared to be this nice educated young woman speaking on behalf of a Boston children's college and about Boston children's college and was well set up as well done and she's basically explaining how they perform hysterectomy's for young women who are looking for gender reassignment and so as a way to affirm them. She's talking casually ergo I mean I would go so far as to say she's attempting to be loving and kind and compassionate about removing her you that this a woman's a young girl's uterus or fallopian tubes or ovaries in order to affirm her new gender identity as a boy, as opposed to a girl and that's why discernment is such a big deal and we swim in the stuff in these lies all day long. We watch it, whether it's CNN or Fox News. I'll care what source you want to go to. None of them are pure as the wind driven snow and so discernment especially for younger Christians today is such a big deal because there's so many contrary philosophies and truth claims coming at us literally nonstop.

The minute you wake up to the minute you go to bed and goes to look at your screen time on your phone and you'll see we mention that before the last break but talking through discernment.

Discernment begins with identity.

Knowing who you are. You are in Christ, which means you're part of a different kingdom. You have a different way of thinking of different operating system. As I mentioned in this one's really important. Discernment grows through engagement doing what I was created to do again Billy thanks for your time in helping us through this today.

So what were re-created us, created to do.

If Christ is our King. Well I think Christ but you know he will call people he would say follow and then that call to follow cold, we engage in. That is ultimately sometimes talk about what love is. Both speak in terms of what love does.

But God is love. Christ is love is one of love is really up to know Christ and then we see what love is and what love does and so were called to follow Christ and that looks like actually taking the cruise think he has taught us living and sharing that it that I am to live out the truth that God is given that Jesus came to rescue me from the penalty of sin, but also a life dominated life of moral chaos and confusion.

He actually has put me on a path path of righteousness where I can discern the difference between right and wrong. I can make those discernment in a confusion. Cultures with a lot of voices. I do have a source of authority who has spoken who has died for me, who has lived for me and then he called me to follow and engage in take those cruise to live them but then to share them to show that lifesaving story of the gospel with others so they can be rescued from confusion as well just such a great point in X right there. Colossians 31 if then you have been raised with Christ know you are, seek the things that are above and in. And like I mentioned screen time, Billy. We talk about what I'll often ask people what you striving after in the biblical language. What are you seeking after and often times I think what were seeking is probably not the things above. It's the things here on earth right over to see somebody's affirmation is affirmation, are we actually seeking the approval of working mean the one who loved me enough to buy from others. Not many people in the world and there's no one like Christ right all that level of love that sacrifice that rescue and so is rescue me from having to live in this in the chaos in the sense of being confused by me. I live in the chaos pump close to live as a light in the middle of the dark right actions was to live as one who could be followed so I could be like cold safe. Follow me, not because I had my life all figured out because I'm following the Kate if I'm frolicking you can follow me because we can cut through the moral chaos and actually give truth and that's what were trying to do all these issues best white universe like Bob Jones because why seminary like BJ says were trying to train young people to know how to cut through the fog and help others lift them out before and see the truth because he did and on and the truth will set us free.

And people know how they know how I do know I was a slave well you are. If you're following the world system even if you're a believer in your not seeking the things above you seeking the things below your your living a very worldly life is what I was talking to these guys in their early 20s, about just last night had to be friends with the world makes you an enemy of God like that out of that language make you feel you know that they were comfortable with being an enemy of God. Especially since there they all claim to be Christians but that's the reality of it in and as you as you come in this type that's really interesting point here just in the subtitle of this section. Discernment grows through engagement.

So as we seek the things above and try to live that Christian life and follow after Christ, your discernment, get stronger, doesn't it absolutely. It is always in the test of what you believe. If what I believe doesn't change where you live right. I mean, if Christ is my king.

There should be a level there should be some evidencing that. I actually believe that he is Lord and I am following it is worthy to be followed mean he really as Paul said earlier Colossians is the come first right first place in everything and as I is Christ really has first place. He does the steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord. We actually can trust Christ for the next day, we can discern in the middle of moral confusion and not be swallowed by. That's the blessing of being in Christ by grace of Christ. I can live that life. I can, not because I'm smarter to register a sinner saved by grace x-rayed by God's grace I can follow Christ and once that regeneration occurs then in of the big trick here is you can have a Ferrari but without gas it's worthless is just a doorstop and so also we talked about this last night. So what what enables you to try to pursue the Christian life is you and I can live it perfectly, but you should be pursuing it.

You should be. After that I should be seeking the things above and these young guys and I deprive the prod. They all grew up in church and I to prod them more than I wish I had to, but I like what what do you get when you become a Christian. We are born again will you get salvation to get heaven yeah what what else was going to enable you to follow hard after Christ. Next do what he says and then finally, also Holy Spirit right so now you have the ability to before you didn't and now you do and and and Paul actually wrote. We know the spiritual truths are spiritually discerned. So without the power the Holy Spirit.

You can't discern anything that's true. Anyway you were either to walk after the flesh or the spirit take your pick the fruit begins the evidence that really quick you live in a culture celebrating the fruit of the flesh as if it's a victory. In all the chaos of reading the anger of the disorder vision the animosity the hatred I mean were seen well over culture and it's the fruit of flash that is just flowing out yet being celebrated as some kind of progress of snow. No, it was so, when we actually begin to to actually recognize doing what I've been created to do is place the greatest joy. There's nothing more frustrating than actually existing to serve Christ know Christ and experience the joy of that and try to do something when you mention something earlier on the break that I wrote down about a puddle versus an ocean which secrete example of what your dog is a beautiful, thoughtful pup, unpacked that real quick for everybody. I like to say it in analogy, I think the world offers us continually puddles flesh we we generally don't send out obligation we sin because we think it's good greatest pleasure right it brings us some measure of temporal whatever legislator Ashley indulgence, and in all these puddles are all around. But what is sitting on the other side is an ocean of joy, an ocean of actually living for what you're created to do. Knowing and enjoying God, now and forever. That's a vast ocean will never end.

I just like to remind myself that I'm tempted to get sucked down by my pleasure, yeah. Yeah I'm playing a puddle right and I did that as a kid I grew up you know that was our entertainment. I didn't have all the right trail you played in puddles. Yeah, but if I do puddle play an emotional play, and I sure hope you have such a great point in a puddle. He pretty much just going to get a map going to get a mess, but that's a powerful way of looking at ability that you're surrounded by all these puddles the world strongly visited puddle opportunities all the time and and something I've said for years.

It's amazing what you can get used to. It's amazing what will settle for in the moment, and then because we all know if you're believer, you know, on the other side of your little puddle of pleasure is guilt and shame you feel it immediately.

You should invent versus God's on the other side going hey, I got an ocean of joy appear for, but you gotta quit messing around in the puddles absolutely. You know he's cleanse us from the guilt and he will continue to cleanse us very power of that sin. Now you and one day will not be present so joy that will didn't know no sorrow. Praise the Lord feel in this day we don't were not trapped in this puddles Dragon is Christ a man and one day in the new heaven and new earth where heaven is right now but in the new heavens and the new earth. No more puddles. That's an awesome thought only a notion of joy as opposed to the stupid little photos of pleasure that we tend to jump from one to next up far too often, this is Steve Noble talk to Billy culture today on theology Thursday working on our discernment will be right look back at Steve Noble to Steve Noble, show theology Thursday with her friends at BJ's seminary, and sometimes Bob Jones University we get all kinds great access to incredible teachers and leaders down there. Great thought leaders and so it's always a blessing every Thursday that we get the jump into the deep end of the pool.

Get help with that are always good to be referencing on theology Thursday. What's one of the professors down there is written to come to guide us in our conversation. Those are all called seminary viewpoints and every single one that we've done almost the last year is available, you can scroll right on the page. If you just go to seminary.BJ\radio it's in the land you on a page that has all of this was a bunch of other links and great interviews and more blog posts and that the different authors the different professors that have been on and help us so you can kinda dig deeper. That's a great can a gateway to levels of deeper learning and understanding like a discernment like were talking about today with Billy culture but again that's seminary.BJ\radio and that will land you write on that page and you can check out all these things and then you wonder what this conversation was likely the check that all of the podcast go to my webpage the Steve Noble you can get the podcast wherever your podcasts run all the major platforms you can access it that way as well because you get to a lot more because we do this in a very conversational way it back and forth reacting to one another, but they always based on the blog post, so make sure you check that out today talking about discernment. The title is seen through the fog. A lesson on discernment. We talked about discernment because of identity, knowing who you are in Colossians 3. Here you been raised with Christ. Okay so now you got and you have a new King you have a new operating system Avenue call in your life.

We talked about that and then discernment grows through engagement doing what I was created to do seeking the things above right and then discernment matures out of right affections now are talking about what's going on in our heart failing. What really matters again in Colossians and this is time we started off a little bit on this Billy Colossians 32, but you wrote this in the blog. The contrast in the text is meant to remind us that the trinkets of this world are not eternally valuable you are mentioning puddles of pleasure versus an ocean of joy. They do not matter beyond this life doing what pleases God does.

Discernment allows us to lay up treasures in heaven instead. If you been raised to new life, then you must not waste God's gift of life on things that are earthly bound employee. Do we have an invitation to not spend her time ungodly things pretty much all day every day we are culture than their payment is made a lot of money doing it offers entertainment on a nonstop basis so there's always things to distract their set me the devil is really good.

I called you when the most subtle on the earth was good at offering distractions.

Even distractions that look like they might be a good thing.

It's like this is so they would live in. Why good, just good theology. So I appreciate you doing theology Thursday you will think right biblically having an anchor for the rest and begin building out truth to live but also reminding ourselves of the truth. I live close out of an affection, values, genuine heart, affections, and that's what I was with first-rate commands look up of all yeah and so out of the heart. Affection grows real maturing. One of the aspects of this you know that our audience is very much in our age range.

Billy and so one of things that's so important incumbent upon us to light. Well, I'm not a teacher.

Yes, you are you not called to the pulpit. Okay, you're not called into a classroom like me or Billy okay but you're still teaching and in the biggest. I think one of the biggest challenges we face and we started the show at this today is the lack of discernment in young people, particularly young Christians. And so it's incumbent upon us that we get this right and then we don't hoard it. We pass it on. So we have to engage younger Christians in conversations in order to help them grasp discernment which is taking them into a biblical worldview. But you mentioned affection so so how do we have we come to get our affections right we have yet four points here at the end of the blog post that I think are really helpful. Yeah, that's part of one author put it this way you talk to you more than anybody else. Man. And so I talked to myself in terms that even as this bombardment of information, I'm processing. And as I process that I begin to repeat it.

And now I begin shaping my affections by these things that I started something to be true.

That's why even as you said in our generation were our to be teachers. Part of that is to push back against the light. It's as if I love somebody I for all the right will no love tells the truth and tells the truth in love because I generally care about trauma care enough to speak true then that means I have for me as a person. Yes, your personal I love deeply, but that is me. I from your choice, because if you're making choices that actually go to damage or destroy you that are true. If you're allowing your factions be bent by a lie if I love you. I need to be able to speak truth is I know that that's just not true. And I have the Bible to back me like I better be equipped with the Bible to speak truth into these young people's lives is what God is. There is an authority about these issues, like who you are and the weather's gender and all these other sexual issues.

The Bible actually is given by God who loves you, and it gives you truth and then our lives being shaped by the truth is, our affections for people need to be shaped by the yeah which is why it takes us into out one of the earlier points in the conversation, but it's a voice first we hear about setting our affections of rightly towards Christ.

We set our affections by continually speaking these truths ourselves and that that's where I've mentioned that where the guy came up last week when we did the show when you guys run the road is is you have to come to continually preach the gospel to yourself because there's so much noise coming at us and so many lies you have to continually thinking of show recently. Billy, I was like at the little engine that could. I think I can. I think I can, I think, again, you have to continually pour truth back into your head. In this first point, the old earthly oriented hell bound slave of sin that I was died the day I was raised to new life with Christ. I think that's something we need to be reminded of absolutely I was with you know that's like a said the first verse in Colossians ones that they haven't memorized that she memorize Colossians 31 because if you been raised with Christ and that she just keep ringing in my head all day long. I am doing Christ I've been raised. I have a new life. That means having a new life been rescued from this earthbound life for my perspective should simply shaped by that which is just around me. I actually met my life shaped by Christ who is seated at the right that gives me just a minute, and that actually encourages my heart dark day. I've been raised yeah such a great point so that truth is something I know these truths are meant to be something I need to repeat myself over and over again because I come back to who I am and what I do with who I and why am I doing which is my affections, and those are really what discernment is all well that's right it in and nobody can take that from me you mentioned, then the second point address rage eternal life in the presence of God and no man can take it from him know anything for me and so if I have 30 FBI agents. For example shelf at my house on a Monday. They can search my house, but they can't take. They can't take that eternal life. They can't take the bond of Christ from me.

They can't take my eternal reward from me. They can't take the Holy Spirit from me. That's an important thing because it reminds you again back to who you are.

It reminds you what I have I been set new in Christ. That also means I glory we talked about that Lord's coming is the life that I now have is not something people can ever touch.

So while the world can make it difficult for us. They might, they could throw me in prison. This stuff is your leisure.

You can confine me, but one of things you can never take for me is the joy that I have.

You can't touch the x-ray because it didn't come from this temporal stuff. Christ that abides in me as a Christian and always will will he will give fuller and fuller and so part of getting back to why me if you so work saturated affection concern is my factions are set on the right things they don't get destroyed by the temples yeah which is so important, especially when the temporal circumstances you dislike of the last two and half years as I started the show with can really become all-consuming. If we let Ingersoll I mean the real issue absolutely difficult or harbor all in the middle of the book is always sees the circumstances that we lose sight of her cake and then we forget why we're here and we don't live here were always trying to self protect her lookout for what's next crisis or what's next pandemic coming in our ministry. I've actually been called abundant living in the middle of the difficult world because I've been set free in Christ. And so I actually can live above the chaos and actually spend my life well even in the midst of the chaos and you know at the end of my life when I give an accounting to Christ. I want to spend my life. Well, I believe it brings joy right now. You absolutely, and joy from yeah such a great point. Well, you know, I think you talk about a life of abundance. I think way too many of us Billy are just trying to survive nominates me and I just can't wait till Jesus comes back. I go home to be in glory. In the meantime's going to hunker down just to survive.

There is a huge nationwide study back in a pastor use this one, which was that the same sermon that can change my life. We talked about is the time magazine huge nationwide survey by 10 20,000 people and and is asking basically how they view their lives 10% of them said that they were an absolute failure. 10% said that they succeeded beyond their wildest imagination, but 88, 80% of them describe their lives and simply enduring.

As I just I'm just making it and I'm just getting by. I'm enduring and that's not what Christ died to give us that that that that abundance versus just survival. I think I think we struggled into well when life gets difficult and hard life right but worse the source of my joy is in the world think that's right as Christ is and what I can share actually yeah valid, great, great point. Great point Billy. Thanks so much again for your time. Thanks for sharing this important topic with us and leading us through it and it's always great to have you on thanks so much. The writer will pray together as we finish up put me in the sermon get to work on and check your heart member you are, check your affections and then let's make sure were teaching this discernment to the younger generation now more than ever.

This is Steve Noble and Steve Noble showed God willing I'll talk together soon and like my dad always used to say ever for another gram powered by the Truth Network

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