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December 14, 2021 11:23 pm

Making a Difference?

Steve has Michele Suffridge, from Refugee Hope Partners, and Donna Pygott, from North Raleigh Ministries, on the show.


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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network mobile show where biblical Christianity meets the everyday issues of life in your home work even in politics. Steve is an ordinary man who believes in an extraordinary God it on a show, there's plenty of grace and lots of true no sacred call Steve now 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH or check them out online, Steve Noble now here's your host Steve Noble back everybody you know how I make it a point to get all up in your business and that's is iron sharpening iron I can baptize that bad, but generally on the show regularly, the background mission behind the show is really similar to what happened to me and what happened to both my guest today which is mining your business and your trying to live your life for Christ trying to make a difference. A note mostly that's pretty central to your home and the family which is normal for most of us, but occasionally there's things that come up and hit your radar screen and you have a heart for a project that oftentimes you struggle with what can I really make a difference do I have the time. I have a family. Whatever the case may be installed so I try to throw a lot at you and share things with you with different ministries whether there here in the Raleigh area are that the triangle area around the state around the country to try to just got a prod that in all of us James that you show me your faith by what you say, I'll show you my faith by what I do I talk about that a lot with respect to the life issue. I don't know any convictional Christians I don't are pro-life but I know very few can fictional Christians that do anything with their pro-life if they make a statement of pro-life faith, but they don't have much works behind it and don't get involved in.

You may have a heart for the refugee issue and I'm in a challenge on that today in terms of not thinking politically if you can hit the pause button on your political reaction. I say the word refugee. Don't let it trigger you. Okay, don't go there.

You want to go to the southern border.

I can go to the Old Testament if I need to and we can talk about that in loving your neighbor as yourself.

But if the refugee plight of the refugees is something that touches your heart. Well, the question is, what you doing about it. Or perhaps it's just that the kind of needs that we see increasingly in this country, especially with COBIT with people that are dealing with poverty. We had a call or the other day. This was interesting to meet Donna and Michelle are in the second none of this will ring true to you at a caller the other day because I was talk. We did a show on Santa Claus and a sweet lady called and she said I grew up in poverty. We never had Christmas presents, but I always heard Santa Claus brought presents to good little kids so my assumption was I'm a bad get because my parents couldn't afford anything side like I never thought of the Santa Claus question from an impoverished perspective, but that's real is real for a whole lot of people, so poverty people that don't have much which is an increasing number around us.

Perhaps that's something that touches your heart well again my question for you is what you doing about that, why pray about it.

Steve, that's awesome. We should pray about everything but prayer is the only thing we should do in many cases, so today you learn about refugee health partners as well as North Raleigh ministries, which are both here in the Raleigh area I done is been on the show before. Is it pie got high good pie. Get pie get nice and subtle done up like it is here in the Michelle suffrage. Michelle and I welcome to show how are you were great, thank you so much freight thanks and I Michelle and I are families known each other for a while with those type of people were homeschoolers you have renal X excellent social skills. You said hello when you came in here he made eye contact. So for all of you think this homeschoolers all freaky, you're wrong. You need to come out of the cave were not the ones in the cave of your thinking like that puts a great personal stories for both of them for Donna Michelle and how did they go from observing things and having a heart for things actually doing things in the both very involved in these ministries. I refugee hope partners is Michelle and Donna's talk about North Raleigh ministries done is been on before Michelle start with you because here in Raleigh and the and in the homeschool world becoming known about this kind of refugee community which is in a particular part of town here in North Raleigh. But how did they get on your radar screen. So I think you know suffering. I think a lot of times people's call to ministry comes the suffering and early and my marriage ice my husband and I we struggled with infertility. We end up having me lost for babies before we had our oldest 10 adoption was always something that was stirring in our hearts and it was ended up being through the adoption of our sign that my eyes were opened have vulnerable children and suffering around the world and went through and journey of probably three or four years of that are just opening my eyes to vulnerable children here in our community that ended up I refugee family walked up the hill to my church one Sunday and that is that desire that I was having in those questions and then at intersection of that real family sitting on it and I came in my church intersect at end and a couple more years beyond that kind to string me deeper and deeper. It was dark 21st 2000 7007 so this is a 14-year-old story 14-year-old story one family to seven show picture with one family just walked up the hill to my church once on any vision. At the time that this would blossom to you being so involved in refugee hope partners is that it was just kinda some families that were getting together and there is a need and now it's an actual organization and became official. Three Years ago, but any vision of that back then that while this could really go somewhere not in the beginning and I say all the time and an accidental executive director. I never saw myself running a nonprofit, but the Lord just Bringing a mind needs and people coming together and saying I think we can. I think as believers we can get together and we can figure out a way to kind of tackle that and more people brought ideas and we just work together and people from across different churches and finally became aware of each other and started praying together and I say all the time that where always steps behind the door, that the Lord has already opened for us, which is really beautiful and just been a walk of faith.

But you can't not walk forward right when doors keep open.

That's right. And that's just a matter of obedience but but there's joy in it and there's rewards and obedience every time you're obedient, there's always good to be a rework was the phrase you use an accidental executive is accidental executive director your accidental executive director on a radio show hosted by an accidental radio show help build the way the Lord so let's go to our other accident the room. That doesn't sound that profession new intro under sling around you. Donna, thanks for coming back on Joe phone before, but now you have to be an ideal and bright lights in your faith right think right kindness. But how did this come to get on your radar screen does not really ministries is like what 16 years old and Helen have you been there five years how to how did it get on your radar screen. So accidentally became omicron scary outlay so I I spent about 20 years working in state-level advocacy for crime victims and underserved population. Specifically, child abuse prevention and so I was at the state level for so long. I just had this desire because of church like I helped my church start a food pantry and was leading the team group and we were going out and serving food to the homeless population in that area and I just filled my heart to help the teams like learn how to pray with people in the moment in their time of need in and we flourished as generate some break it up. I got up I got here with North Raleigh ministries Michelle suffrage with refugee hope partners on put links up on Facebook.

You guys can see that get involved and continue with their story how they got involved. What's going on now and eventually, what can you help will be right back and back. Merry Christmas to show talking about what you can do locally. By utilizing the stories about two friends of my Michelle suffrage with refugee hope partners in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Donna pie. Get with North Raleigh ministries done is been on the show. Before Michelle, the first timer, but the word talks going through their stories of how they got involved with these various ministries which started not on purpose or accidentally seems to be the word of the day today on the show because I was looking early on, to get into radio.

That wasn't my plan.

Michelle can envision 14 years old in 2007 that this would become the official federally recognized a ministry and then Donna when you are working with your church and stop even though you been in the realm of dealing with this professionally. The thought of of it being, full-time ministry endeavor probably wasn't on your radar screen wasn't it was not on my radar screen and it just became more so in my heart though, and I felt like I needed to take that step forward and really be more boots on the ground out of the advocacy arena and helping people firsthand and so I just came across North Raleigh ministries when it was in need of an executive director and I was like I have all this experience and so I'm just going to apply, and it was the only job that I had applied for at the time it wasn't like I was really looking to make a change. I just wanted something more in ministry. And so it just worked out and hearing about was that of a scary leap for you but it really was the state state. I did it work for this statement. State-level nonprofits that off also have a national level I funding totally different under grants and contracts and this and that now like and then so just jump off and know that I have operating a faith-based ministry which is super exciting because I can say Merry Christmas to you and you know God is great and so ill.

It was scary but ended the scary thing was that they said all and it has a thrift store and I'm like excuse me, I know like I worked in retail. When I was young, so I had to put that hat back on as well, but it was a big leap in is completely completely different.

Yet, firsthand, and so let's let's go I will stay with you and welcome back to Michelle. So tell us about North Raleigh ministries, what the essence of what you guys do so. We really work to equip families and individuals with resources and skills needed to achieve stability so people come to us in crisis, and most of them are on the verge of homelessness, and so we really try to dive in with people on a relational level and not only provide the food in another like immediate assistance to bring them to just some level of stability but to dive deeper and engage them into our programs that could really help them change their lives and how much is that environment changed in the last two years.

Such a strange and there are no arrivals.


So we we change significantly. We have curbside grocery assistance because now we have so many food pantry recipients that there's no way they can go through and shop in the way they know was a dignified approach for folks so it's is very much different and so their calling in and then were engaging through the phone. We have all types of options though for people to participate in further programming beyond the food pantry, or any type of food need and that is to resume you can come in one online and meet with the pastor or for pastoral counseling, coaching, case management, any of that. So do phone doesn't matter. Whatever you're comfortable with writing Larry send me that you see the world. While the percentage of the buildings changed. It it was about. Well, I think it bordered on about 500% in 2020, and then it went down to about 300% and I feel like now it's probably hundred and 50% will massively yeah, very much so. So I don't feel like were going to be able to open the door like the physical door like we had in the past without another type of miracle happening yet.

So there's so much work out there and it's all yeah you see but on the refugee side Michelle refugee hope partners. Let's talk generally what what started as a simple story which is one family, but obviously slumber going on out so that one family became five became 10 became 15/14 years. We serve about 1100 1200 families. It's growing really fast right now with a number of folks that are coming from Afghanistan so it's a really really highly high increase time right now for the number of people that we serve. But we engage, equip and encourage refugee families on so that all may thrive and we do that in partnership with the local church. We want to engage and mobilize the local church to reach toward these families. We provide a lot of holistic supports and areas that families need that overdoing this for a long time. We see families do it means a lot to leave everything you've ever now and you leave your chest time you leave your community leave your people and we archiving them the job of community building for refugees so they have family needs changed in terms of going back to 2007. This one family was refugee family member where they were from now. They were from Burma. They were Karen family and probably for the first five years.

The only families that I really knew were Karen families but now we serve people from over 40 different countries did the ministry to the program Noel Jacob says they come to town. Do you find now that there's up kind of a consistent flow of what their needs are. Regardless of where they're coming from. Yeah everything turned upside down. So whether they're coming from Africa whether they're coming from the Middle East where they're coming from.

From Burma the needs of the same and that they are just trying to figure out life here and said our system is acting out. We have a whole brain vault trust of information that we have from growing up anywhere and helping connect people to that knowledge and and resources but then come along beside them and just provide this provide support. Whether figuring it out. A safe place, almost like a greenhouse kind of community but they do it and they figured out it's beautiful to see what what are some of the things he have dealt with first leg. Let's just take up refugee family from Afghanistan and again that's why mention it earlier because I a lot of us in our age group and people that are largely conservative Christians. Unfortunately, I think we tended think politically before we think spiritually or from a theology aura even a ministry perspective. So talk about was that unique circumstance because this is such a big news cycle may people come in here from Burma. Nobody even knows from Burma this next time and so people are clueless but with Afghanistan. Now there is so politically charged. What was that like well it's been really beautiful, and it's been really unique because we saw this play out. We also I play out on our televisions 90 days ago and and those people that we were praying for this people that we were lumped lamenting over just unbelievable horrific scenes and we've heard story after story of people's journey to that airport and horrible things that happen to them collectively as a family and you hear that over and over and over again and said those people that we were praying for our here now and they're safe and we get to be neighbors and friends with them. So it's now it's beautiful. I've never had that experience for many of the families that we serve have been encamps for 1015 years never have things move this quickly, but we are really thankful to be welcoming these family others where letting you know whether were talking about refugees or document North really ministries is an overlap there, which is a group of people that most of us tend to know about, but don't get really involved talk about this and keep unfolding the story what's going on.

A refugee hope partners what's going on in North Raleigh ministries and then I'll make it even more comfortable. Talk about what's going on with you. What are you doing about any of that same question for me will be right back.

Everybody over the Steve Noble show work going mess as well as the rest of the year and into next year. So if you watch or be a part of the show you where mask and then also working to start doing about just kidding. Just triggering everybody that is the subject I wanted to talk about for a while with Michelle suffered from refugee hope, partners, and on up.

I get from North Raleigh ministries both here in the Raleigh area and into women that weren't looking to be executive directors of years ago but yet here they are accidental executive directors accidental accidental for Michelle. That wasn't exactly your plan originally now originally got out and then they put the job up and you applied and got it I got that freak you out when you got the job. I was totally ready. I've been in Executive Director before it had been many years before the years and so like yours Raleigh ministries. For example, will touch the lives about 3000 people this year.

Refugee hope partners working with 1200 people only families that it's about 400 family so there's a lot going on there and especially if you're in the Triangle area, especially Raleigh bee stings are in our backyard. So what a great opportunity to cut a move from listening to stories like this to being involved with stories like this and maybe for you it's you'd be the epicenter of you would be a downer, you would be Michelle in my case, you would be Steve.

None of us were really thinking about this years ago and the Lord in his sovereignty changes things and brings opportunities and doors open and you you choose to walk through them or not. It's a matter of faithfulness. The rest of it lead to the Lord in terms of fruitfulness. So what. It doesn't have to be. These two ministries but is there something on your heart that you wanted to deal with forever, but just have it and let the show today be a little loving nudge for me or perhaps a kick in the rear and the time to do something about it okay because God's got all kinds of blessings out there for you. If you're obedient to what is put on your heart but coded is totally change things for both of you guys good deal of people and then was refugees also know these kids are old and you have way more people 345 or percent more people Donna coming there.

So how did you guys deal with COBIT for the last almost 2 years now don't you go first and will so we quickly pivoted to curbside grocery assistance and then we offered backpack buddies program with the local schools and instead of partnering with local schools because they were closed. We began to offer backpack buddies plus so kid friendly food, seven days a week, breakfast, lunch, snacks so that way parents had what they needed to ensure that their children were fed throughout the school day because normally that child is eating breakfast, lunch at regularly and you're not thinking about it because they're falling within that poverty percentage where they qualify for free and reduced lunch so we fill those gaps and we just began to fill every type of gap that we could related to food insecurity, and then while we had our doors closed as well. We decided just to revamp the way that we do all of our programming and really began to focus on the client's needs, surveying them, making sure that we are helping the whole of the person and not just one or two aspects of that person. And so it's been great for us. We've seen huge success.

Wonderful program outcomes tons of engagement with families, but something that's it's it's a it's a bitter tree in many ways it is through flat out two months, but in those seasons. Generally, there's a lot of opportunities especially when you start caring about our neighbors because more more people. It needs you have to be innovative, you change you be willing to change what you're doing.

I mean there could be an atomic bomb goes off and it doesn't really change what I do. I just can't hide here Michael Bunker do my thing but for you guys on the street puts it, more people coming right and then you have to find new ways to deal with it. Like with the refugee community. Michelle all of a sudden all these kids to Donna's point were gone all day, another although that I don't change everything for you guys. Yeah, I mean I think that was the word of 2020. For all we knew right away people working adults were to be losing jobs. We knew kids were going to be out of school, which meant lack of access to lunch and breakfast and say oh I remember it happen really quickly. The shutdown happened really quickly.

We were just reflecting on that a couple of weeks ago. I think we had a normal Monday and by Friday we should were set down for what we thought was gonna be too weak right into Debbie and a whole lot longer.

So we I remember very clearly meeting in San okay there's a lot we can't do, what are we gonna do during that time so we shifted to food as well. We even partnered with North Raleigh ministries during that time people being said is really really important. But then when the kids didn't go back to school and August and that was a full remote situation. We had 350 400 kids we were surveying. They didn't have laptops that didn't have access to the Internet. We rented another apartment we hired a bunch of college interns ran teetering 13 hours a day, kept our community afloat. But then there was a huge informational gap.

Our families are not surfing the Internet don't speak English and so we were doing a lot of door-to-door just informing them of this is what's going on in them. When kids started to go back and cohorts okay this kid can go but this other kid can't go and it shifted to. We do a lot of transportation of kids who are sick we do COBIT testing on site and work with families about when their kids can go back to school so we just tried to smooth over that I process for our community and its help the schools to and so it's been a it's been a win-win.

That's where the if you know other people and connectivity is so important and then what school system you can actually have a friendly relationship, but we don't think about that right now and there's many ways, yes, we need all the school system to account and there's a lot of things about the public school system that need to be exposed need to be discussed and need to be dealt with but setting that aside, where are talking about children that are struggling and failed to struggling and that's where you have to kind of willing to divorce her political opinions. These are very real things going on. The school system. Everybody elicits the show knows I know that but then you set that aside to go get us talk about people all the other just after Langley were just talking about people yeah and I mean I said in so many IEP meetings were a school is found a translator. They brought the parents and that don't speak English as a room full of people all talking about one refugees stayed at that struggling I've seen a lot of beautiful things and commitment to our kids in the wake County schools. Here is our latest things. The biggest challenges that you face as a result of COBIT or just in general done will serve you. I that I think the biggest challenge that we are seeing at North Raleigh ministries is that a it's the mental health crises, and so the families that we serve there already struggling under tremendous amount of stress not really having the capacity to make really good decisions and so we want to help them overcome all of that but we it's taking a lot more to get there and to really dive in deeper. We also had to add bilingual, we added a trilingual pastor to our team to help meet some of the challenges that we are experiencing with communication barrier, but the big big thing is that the mental health of the people that were surveying and there it's really stemming from isolation and the great unknown.

Like none of us know what going on right now we think we do, and it's one day amassed in the next day.

It's not this works and that doesn't work in the story keeps changing and so fully vaccinated. Yeah goalposts, there's a lot going on and so if you have means and you're not worrying about how you're going to put food on the table. You can probably think through it and adapt quicker but if you're already stress you don't have food you don't know about your job and everything's always in some type of an rate. Add all of that too little in its it's crushing Joe's garage got such a great and appropriate word crushing to the people that you serve, whether it's refugee community or North Raleigh ministries.

Are they aware of it or do you see it in the not everybody can put their finger on. Hey, I'm depressed. I got some mental health issues going on here, but I imagine because you were doing this before COBIT right you seen a difference. So what how does that manifests itself when you see people struggling I've seen what we are saying is an increase in suicidal ideation in their calling us. There's nowhere to go so a lot of services shutdown and there might be a website that says this service is available or this service is available, but because of COBIT and all of the unknown mental health services have changed and so there is no outlet for people and they are coming to us and we were blessed God graced us with a licensed clinical social worker who is a Christian that she is fielding these calls and it is the unexpected. For us it's not something that we anticipated like diving into really deeply enjoy. 21 but we have no choice because even we can't get a referral for them and if we do get a referral. It's months out. We can't afford to let that right to read my life or death. Yeah so what about for you guys. Refugee will mental health is definitely something that we were struggling with with our youth especially it is discouraging to be home and our kids need support they need additional supports that come from non-English-speaking homes they're working on their English proficiency. That's really difficult to do overs them. I think one of our biggest struggles has just been bought. IVR is now, but I assume yeah it's just become a way of life and we've exacted it to some degree that we had in your serving people you're sorry and I have a computer resume I talk about IPA learn language, you tell me to learn something that they use the phone right now really tell you there. When we come back so were talking Michelle suffers from geo-partners done up. I get from North Raleigh ministries and then we'll talk about some of the biggest challenges that were there facing like Michelle just said a lot of it's good to be volunteers just boots on the ground of people willing to roll their sleeves up while talk about it as well. This is the norm of the signal so don't go anywhere because I'm in a get all up in your face when we come back for the show. I love you guys. That's why I tell you the truth will show talking. Michelle suffers from refugee hope partners and done up.

I get from North Raleigh ministries unit Raleigh North Carolina got links up for their Facebook page websites so hopefully I know that for some of you.

The Lord's moving on you as we hear their stories and learn about these ministries and the important work they're doing to reach people that a lot of us don't frankly don't even know we drive by Amber. Like for example with refugee hope partners now living in North Raleigh. This particular area. For those of you out of the market. You have a North Raleigh were you live.

It's a nicer part of town and so there's one particular apartment complex on the corner of a couple of busy roads and over the years, you'd notice that there's more more people there that don't look like you.

You being Caucasian and eventually you find out that this is Michelle. Should this earlier. Back in 2007 there's like 10% of the folks there were refugees.

Now it's what Michelle like 90 p.m. close to 90% things are there and we tend to be like the story of the good Samaritan.

We drive by, you know, there's problems, you know there's needs.

We know you're out there. Most of us have the ability to do something about it, as opposed to nothing. The question is will we.

And so that's why working to driving towards this opportunity for all of us to support these two great ministries and what these two women of God are doing Michelle you're talking about.

We are just unpacking a little about COBIT and mental health of what was going on with the refugees because Nelson kids are home. They don't know about assume they don't know anything and and then now if COBIT in there so mental health is probably how is it manifesting itself in terms of these families about foreign families that you guys are from a mental health perspective.

Yeah, it's just you know they had these families have been through so much.

I mean they've been through war they been through famine. Some of them have been imprisoned.

Many of them have lost family members a lot of family members they've operated. They've moved to a new place. So in some ways COBIT hasn't been that overwhelming for these families.

The road their deceased and moving forward. Now I think getting the kids back in school has been really huge, but even when they were home providing that structure. Every day the kids were to come to get the help that they need and relieve that pressure from from the parents, and so they they had a schedule they knew what they were doing when and we just provided that framework which which went a long way by thankfully our families are working finding jobs has not been a problem know. So after the initial hit got better better Americans after losing jobs. In the beginning everyone is working and that that has been really great. That's huge. Ask on ramps for involvement and how do people get involved in and what are your needs and how can we help so let's address that and done. If you want to go first.

That's fine and just talk to people talk to us so we understand how we get involved looking to need you have. And then there's people out there that can help meet those so we have tons ways of getting involved in at North Raleigh ministries. In fact, we have a get involved had that North Raleigh and you can go check that out, but we are always in need of volunteers. We love volunteers. We celebrate volunteer so if you want to get involved you volunteer and thrift and there's all types of things to do there. We have opportunities that are short-term, long-term, but every night so I think that would be really great for people to join us.

That way there's always giving opportunities as well. Let's also under the get involved tab and then our end of your campaign is open arms open and that will share information about what were doing right now in the challenges that we are experiencing and what we plan to do about those challenges.

So giving food donating items to our thrift store so that we can resell those gently used items at its our primary income source.

So all of that is a great way to get involved because we've had that we moved twice in 13 months. Yeah. And so we done that before and it's amazing how much stuff we have that we don't need gently used items that most of us need to clean out her closet so it's a really easy way to win with it is when when we love it and drop us an will will meet you out there get your stuff help you get organized and we will take it we will fix it up and sell it. It is our primary funding source yeah is to have a three-story yeah about refugee hope partners because I think both of you. What you have in common is yeah there's always financial but human needs are sometimes even more challenging. Right now we have needs across it cost lots of different programs we have things that happen every single week.

If you've got Tuesday afternoon from 3 to 4 available. We have a spot for year but we have a lot of kind of more random opportunities. We do a lot with medical and social work, and we have families that can't provide transportation for themselves and so we do a lot of transportation and we have a mentoring program for juniors and seniors in high school to help them over that hurdle of next steps we have Bible studies that meet in the community. We need folks to bring a meal if that's your gift and you have the gift of hospitality week that kids that love to eat and are really motivated by that so and then we have this whole huge increase in Afghans that are coming and other refugees that numbers last year and the triangle were about 200 people that were resettled is coming here it's gonna be close to 2500 early on and so there's a lot of people coming with too difficult really difficult circumstances. Many of the families we talked. He lost everything on the way to the airport in Afghanistan, multiple attempts to get to the airport just like practical no food helps is back to close on their back and that's it In the weather in Afghanistan when they left is different than a letter that we have right now. Yeah it's getting cold concept about most. You mentioned that the Bible studies and stuffer for both organizations have you cut a deal with the spiritual aspect of locomotion we need to be people were there I would need to help them with their actual physical needs, but they have a deeper need.

Of course, so how do you kinda weave that and what is that look like spiritually at ministries Herat skippers for eyes. It's just a part is just a part of life are primary core value is gospel first set is what drives us. That's what motivates us in the community on these families have come through a lot of suffering and they come to a lot of persecutions. Everything we do is very out in the open weed out.

We don't do a bait and switch were not tricking people into those opportunities.

That's their relationship with parents.

We talk to families that the kid wants to participate in a Bible study that's a conversation with the family and the parents can say yes I am where thrilled and they can say no and where like will see you at homework help on Monday.

That's no big deal. And so we do have about 70 or 80 folks that participate in weekly study have grown in their faith and come to Christ. Even in those Bible studies, so I just have felt really strongly we have felt strongly as a team that is being slowly transparent discussions right there not asking to be anybody other than that's right now and we can be who we are as well.

That's right right that's right, how they react to the edge, especially the look specifically Afghans to run out of time, but how are they react in fact there's a bunch of Jesus followers that are help Sir yeah you know what were seen. I'm overhearing right now is that they see the chart showing up and serving them right now and it's impactful and they are giving voice to that and it's done in a in a way that there is no expectation of responses. Just because this is what the gospel compels us today was what you will do that's right, to what we are calling them at the mission of, well, I think, is as it is a really key thing that we are compelled to do in the end, the gospel drives us toward that refugee hope By the way is the website to refugee hope partners because of a website is real do we get there doors and Donna what about a northerly ministries that he can. The obvious nature it's right so we are very transparent.

It's very clear. I think the website and development materials that we provide. But every person that walks through the door is offered prayer so no one leaves without food no one lease hungry, but the very next step is how can we pray for you today and what's going on with your life. We have a pastor on staff with social workers on staff so that we can really have a provide programs that work through you know evidence and then have a spiritual component to it so it we really are developing something that is wrapped in in the love of Christ is what you doing and is why yes and the wise always going to be right. Part of it yet. Most people, especially needy people.

Okay fine, whatever. I don't care right need help yeah as you develop a relationship that that those door start open and end. You've proven that you care about. Yeah, so it's not something like okay great course. Well, those are just invite Don Wilton review the Michelle finish specifically how how can people help. Like today, right now, today, well today if you want make a gift you can go to open arms open and make a gift. There financial contribution and then also just go to our website and sign up to receive volunteer information and that's get involved I'm looking at it right there open arms and then volunteer opportunities in the nation right what about refugee hope partners Michelle yeah very very similar. We have asked serve tab on our website, you can go there you can sign up for our newsletter that comes out about actually. We have one that comes out every week with ministry opportunities ways to serve. Giving is is big for us right now we are actually gonna be opening up.

I welcome center and you springing up, 20, 22 so were in a campaign right now to raise trying to raise $200,000 by the end of the year to set us up well for that but it'll be a stable location that refugees from all over the city, not just the ones living in the one community that he mentioned can calm for programming can come for support and comfort to find their community so it's an actual storefront, location right. It's going to be a large programming space that families will be able to come they outsell nowhere to come to find so exciting to have a storefront for that and there were sort really ministries located at six Forks and Strickland yes six Forks and Strickland Road is our crisis and development center, and you probably know you're talking yelp that shot you just surf the web like like a WW refugee hope or North really you all know there's a front of it, which is no sense for the wild wild wet.

Michelle and Donna a Merry Christmas to you and thanks to my brothers are marching orders get involved and do nothing. That's all. Or Christ. This is not on the Steve Noble show, God willing, I'll talk to you soon and like my dad always used to say ever forward another program powered by the Truth Network

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