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Yeah, Dad. Who stop me and say, why are you talking about the Cowboys? I'll tell you why. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Because this story right here, the Cowboys trading for a backup quarterback moves the needle. Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider, Tom Pellicero. Still to come, college football reporter for the athletic, Scott Doctorman, Kansas City, and the center, Hunter Dickinson. And now sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano. It is pro-day season, SZN. It's Friday on the Rich Eisen Show. Thanks for being here, everybody. My final day in the chair.
Rich back soon. Pellicero here as well. Next week, as we count down to 20 days to the NFL draft.
In title town, USA. Have you, do you have a bucket list of NFL stadiums and NFL towns? Do you? If you don't, Green Bay should be atop the list. I cannot recommend. I'll say this before the draft as well. If you've never been there, make a trip. Your favorite team doesn't have to be there. You want to wait for that? Go. That's fine.
Do it then. But it is the coolest football environment and venue. In American sports, in the NFL, at least college football is a little bit different. Anyway, three weeks from now, we will be there. And three weeks from now, we're going to know what happened in the first round. Is Cam Ward really going number one overall? Who in God's name is going number two overall? Because the draft begins, we think it too. What about the giants?
What about Chris Brockman? Good day to you and the Patriots sitting there at four. There's a team in Jacksonville, I'm told as well.
What do they do at five? Three weeks from today, we're going to know all of this. Do the bears take a running back? Do the saints draft a quarterback? Three weeks from now, we could be sitting here saying, does Derek Carr want out now? Because the saints just took a quarterback at nine.
And if so, which quarterback is that? All of that, three weeks from today, I have no patience. I want it three weeks from yesterday, but so be it. We got to wait.
Anyway, glad you're here. Scott, Dr. Men from the athletic coming up shortly. Hunter Dickinson, an interview that Rich did coming up next hour as well.
Chris Brockman, Jay and TJ, happy Friday to you. Andrew, as a Browns fan, not just their radio voice or a team employee, what do you want them to do as a fan? I honestly want them to trade up for Cam Warren, but it ain't going to happen.
I never, never say never. I just, I think the Titans like him too much to give it up. And I also think that if they decide they don't want him, the price is going to be exorbitant. Now, if you really, the only way the Browns get him, well, I mean, look, the Titans could take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. They could. They could shock the world and take Chidor. You never know.
That would be shocking. But the only way the Browns get him is if the Titans decide, all right, this has all been a ruse. We like another player better. But we either, A, take that other player or B, call the Browns or the Titans or whomever and say, we'll take anything.
Start bidding. Like we'll go to two. We don't want to go to three. We'll go to two or three. But, you know, three is going to have to pay more than two.
Go for it. And then maybe you do get it for a couple of twos or a two and a three, or maybe the Giants will give you a one next year. That scenario is possible. But as Andrew Berry said last Sunday at the annual meeting in Florida, it is unlikely that the Browns can do it or that they will even be given the opportunity to do it. Because if the Giants or rather the Titans decide to get out, as Mike Mayak said yesterday, look, they got to be lockstep with ownership there. You never know. I'm not saying Amy Adam Strunk is making this decision, but you're going into a new stadium soon.
You need the quarterback. Like you all got to be on the same page. Organizations will always say, hey, this is an organizational decision. Well, who is the final say? Whose contract says you have the final say? Guys, it might say this person has the final say, but we're going to do this together. And if the Titans just say, we're going to take them, then they're going to take them and there's nothing you can do.
And you just got to live with that. Yes. Could you call up and say, here are three ones? I guarantee the Titans would, would listen to that, but are you really going to give up three ones to go from two to one? That's dumb. But if they do that, please don't play this back. But you get my point. You just don't, you don't do that. You don't give up three, one from two to one, right? And unless you're in a movie, unless you're in a movie, no matter what.
And then he ended up getting all his picks back because he was a pancake eating MF. I mean, that movie is so unrealistic. I know, but it's great. It is so, the idea that you would trade up to one and then not, not have any idea of who you're going to take. You just go to one and then you figure it out, right? You just go figure it out.
Super fun. Also wanted to ask you about this, Andrew, after Miles Garrett, much, much ballyhooed off season for him, ultimately stays in Cleveland, gets the record contract. You had a conversation with him where it, Miles made it seem like he was told what the plan is at quarterback. What did you take away from that conversation?
And did you get any idea of knowing what the actual plan is from him? So I've been asked this a thousand times for asking for those who did not see after Miles Garrett did do the deal. And he did the podium that day, a Friday, a few weeks ago, he did my Browns podcast. I have a podcast in the Browns on the Browns media platforms. It was on zoom.
I did it from here in California. So I asked Miles, you know, do you know the plan of quarterback and you smile? Yeah.
He made it seem like he knew. I go, do you like the plan? So can you tell us the plan?
He's like, no, I can't tell you the plan. Brown social did a great job. Justin Fela and others have cut in that and zooming in on Miles. They, they did a really good job, but did I have a conversation off air about what they discussed? I did not because it was on zoom and I did not have the opportunity of, hey, if I were there, the two of us walking down the hallway and talking about it afterwards. I didn't have that because I did it on zoom and there were other people in the room, not only in the zoom room, but in the room, the physical room. I think the door was open out to the hallway as well. The Browns have their studio downstairs, kind of off the lobby. It wasn't, I had no opportunity to go, all right, cut, dude, what's going on?
I wish I did. Now I did ask Kevin Stefanski in a Monday interview that I don't know if it's aired on clevelandbrowns.com yet that exact question. Hey, Miles and I talked to seem like he knew what was going on.
What did you tell him? Kevin, of course, gave a silly answer. I don't remember what it was. He's not going to say it, but what's amazing is if you look at the comments on that video, whether it's Instagram or Tik TOK or Twitter or whatever, is that everybody is using that look on miles face to confirm whatever crazy idea they have. So the comments underneath where I told you it's going to be Kirk cousins, or I told you they're drafting Chador, or I told you this means they're trading up and they're taking cam ward. Or I told you they're bringing Flacco back. There's been crazy ones like it's going to be Russell Wilson because Russell was in the building that very day.
There's been even crazier ones like, see, I told you they're trading for Kyler. I'm like, what? Huh? But everybody is using that as confirmation of their best guess. And the answer is, I don't know. And as Tom just said there around the league meetings, and I got this 50 times as well, everybody is asking, Hey, what are the Browns doing?
I'm like, don't look at me. If they're asking me and they're asking Tom and neither of us have an answer, I don't know. I really don't.
The Browns are great, are great at keeping it tight. Yeah. Nothing's really leaked out or anything. Whereas it seems like everyone you talk to the consensus is, well, cam ward's going number one, Tennessee is going to take him and the, and the draft starts at two. That's literally what Tom just told us.
Right. But we kind of really have no idea what, what Cleveland's thinking, which way they're leaning. And it really is going to be a surprise on draft night.
You know, if you ask us right now, it's going to be a surprise on draft night what they do it to. The Browns have ownership in the building today in Colorado as we speak. It is Colorado Pro Day. Although if you watch on NFL network, it's called the Colorado showcase. And in the building, they have signs that say we ain't hard to find showcase.
That's what Colorado is calling it is snowing in Boulder. They are indoors. The Browns met last night.
Owner, Jimmy Haslam, other members of, of ownership, coach, GM, everybody with both Chidor and Travis Hunter. They had the dinner. Chidor is throwing today.
Friends. There is your headline. He is throwing and he is throwing to Travis Hunter. That was not expected to happen. I don't know if arms were twisted to dinner last night. I don't know if this was the plan all along.
I got no clue, but Travis Hunter is catching footballs today from Chidor Sanders. So this is real. And this is legitimate.
This is legitimacy. Say that again. Hoskins. Gotcha.
Sorry. I got voices in my head. Like Randy Orton.
You liked it? Randy Orton. Chris, if only we had a Browns insider close, someone who was really tight with the organization who could really tell us what's going on in the building. Ear in the, you know, to the pavement who understands what's going on. If only there was somebody living in Cleveland for the football, close proximity to us, who was almost there all the time. I mean, do you think this person signed an NDA and they can't really tell us?
I wonder, I wonder if he's been actually told of the plan and can't because he doesn't want to tell her. I'm just saying, I'm just saying Nathan Zagora, my partner, my partner in the broadcast booth. All right. As promised now, covers both football and the basketball, the Big Ten and everything from the athletic as we get ready, not only for Colorado Pro Day, Scott Doctorman of the athletic, but the Final Four as well. Scott, good to talk to you. How are you? Andrew, I'm doing great.
Can't complain. Finally into draft season, Final Four approaching. Pretty good.
Pretty good weekend overall. Have you ever heard a pro day called a showcase and not a pro day? Yeah, the last two years with the Big Twelve going down to the star in Texas, they've turned it into a showcase. But for the most part, the pro days I've been to have been pretty blah.
I think there's been a few rock parties was interesting a few years ago, but other than that, it's been same old, same old, everybody doing what they can do. But I think Travis Hunter today will make a mark on everything. Well, Scott, let's talk about the Big Twelve pro day because you were there.
It was the star. It's a big thing now for NFL Network. They got all the Big Twelve teams there. Travis Hunter and Chidor Sanders did not work out there. Chidor did a 10 minute NFL Network interview.
So did Deion Sanders there as well. I'm fascinated, though, by what happens today, because we've seen the tape. We know the kids stuff. We know the kids smart. We know the kid is more than just his last name. But Scott, from that day, I think it was three weeks ago. How have you heard the narrative, if at all, change on Chidor Sanders?
I think it's still really up and down. I think people see the talent and they get it and they understand it because he's he's an incredible athlete, but he's not a running quarterback, per se. He's got a great arm. He showcased it throughout the season.
Different players over three different years and two different schools. I haven't heard that the narrative change a whole lot with him, except there are people on one side who are kind of adamantly against Chidor Sanders and then people on the other who are really for him. And I think it's up to him to to convince somebody who likes him already that he is their choice to lead them in the future. And as we know with the NFL draft, there's always going to be a handful of people who have no interest in somebody like that. But then there's going to be four or five or 10 teams that really like him. And I think that's probably where he's putting himself right now is to emphasize his strengths to the people who already are in his corner, because all it takes is one to draft you. But I feel as we head, you're going to be a first round quarterback if one team turns in the car, that's it.
But as we head towards the draft and we'll know three weeks from today, or maybe we won't feel like the consensus is right now, there's a shot. He doesn't go two or three and then becomes the story of draft night. Now he's not going to be there. He's going to do his own thing. Good for him.
He's not a businessman. He's a business man, and they're going to have their own thing going on draft day. But I'm kind of glad for him on a personal level that he isn't going to the draft and not going to be in the green room.
Yeah, that is a good thing. We've seen that before with Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers going all the way back 20 years ago or so. And as we know with Aaron Rodgers case, it worked out so much better for him to go where he could sit for a couple of years in Green Bay. And if you look at somewhere in the teens, maybe in the 20s, if somebody takes a chance at Chidor then and he has a chance not to come in as the savior like he would be in New York, for instance, trying to compete for that starting job right away, there's going to be there would be a ton of pressure on him. But if he's able to kind of wait it out and, you know, he might find the best possible spot for him. Of course, it'll cost him millions and it'll be a blow to the ego.
But I think that might be his best bet. And and I think right now you're seeing that kind of that echo chamber move around. And I kind of wonder if Jackson Dart's going to start getting some play and moving up into the first round or at least being discussed there. Oh, I guarantee you will write that down right now, whether it's Jackson Dart or Jalen Milro, by the way, both of whom have visited the Steelers. Jackson Dart doing so today in the Aaron Rodgers thing, hangs over all of this, talking Scott Doctorman from the Athletic, because if Rodgers has already gone to the Steelers, if that is done by draft day, then we look at, I think, the 21st overall pick very differently. Scott, want to change gears here real quick to the final four Florida, Auburn, Duke, Houston, Saturday in San Antonio.
What does your what does your gut tell you? Houston's chances of knocking Duke out? Probably twenty five percent. I mean, you've got the best, the most efficient offense in the country and Duke against the most efficient defense in Houston. And Houston is relentless on the defensive end.
That's how they pride themselves. And that's why they've been so successful on losing only one Big 12 game. I mean, this is a team that's been vastly underrated. However, we haven't seen an efficient offense or machine like Duke in a long, long time.
I mean, Cooper Flag is clearly the best player in the sport, but it goes deeper than that. I mean, they are just as good on the defensive end. I mean, scoring defense, three point defense, everything you name that Duke is is tremendous there. I mean, and there are four NCAA tournament games they've given up, they won by an average of twenty three and a half points and they won 15 straight games. In fact, only one of their thirty five wins has come by a single score.
So this is a tremendous team. So I think Houston has a chance. It's probably going to have to rely on Duke missing a lot of shots and they're not necessarily tremendous scorers themselves. But I think it's probably have to be a close game and Duke missing shots for Houston.
Scott, I'm going to steal an ESPN topic bar from this morning. Got to give him credit. If if Cooper Flag wins, if Duke wins, is he the greatest Duke freshman of all time? Yeah, he is.
And that's hard to say. More than Grant Hill. Yeah, more than Grant Hill, for sure. I think he's in that he elevates himself into that Christian Laitner, Jay Williams category, Shane Battier. He is in that discussion.
I mean, we're going through an exercise now. I'm trying to rank the final the best players for each final four team. And it was almost impossible with Duke. But to do what he's been able to do as a freshman, an 18 year old freshman, and put together the statistics and just lead this team, it's it's out of this world. He's one of the best freshmen that's ever played. You're talking to a native of Reston, Virginia, so that Grant Hill for sure thing just hurt, buddy. Sorry, man.
No, it's OK. He signed my yearbook once. Scott Doctorman from the athletic, it's we got football and basketball. It is the greatest time of the year and baseball as well.
And the Reds keep getting shut out. We thank you for your time. Enjoy your basketball this weekend, man. Appreciate you. Yeah, thanks, Andrew.
Appreciate being on. You gotcha. Scott Doctorman, everybody. So the Reds got shut out one to nothing for the third consecutive game. I threw that in there. I'm not a Reds fan last night, but we have a mutual friend, Brockman, that is a Reds fan.
Sorry, quick left turn here. So they've been shut out one to nothing in three consecutive games. According to Grock, is that how you say it?
The X AI, in other words, AI for the X social media platform. According to Grock, the odds of an MLB team losing three straight one nothing games are one in 296 million. That is based on a five to 10% chance of a shutout and a two to 5% chance the opponent scores just one run, one in 296 million. First time since 1960 that a team has lost three straight one nothing games. So for recreational purposes only, what were the odds that you could have gotten if anyone would have even written the ticket on a baseball team getting shut out one to nothing for the next three consecutive games? I don't know.
Probably 2001 or something. That's it? You probably wouldn't have got 20,000 to one. No one's going to write the ticket. No one would have wrote the ticket, but you wouldn't have got 290 million to one.
No, no, you would not have gotten two. Yeah. Oh, here's a 10 spot. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, let me just throw down a dollar on this.
No, no, no. Yeah. Anybody got... Honey, do you have a 20? Yeah, I want to bankrupt this casino.
I want to balance the national debt. Honey, do you have a 20? All right, so Colorado pro day, more details from that as we continue coming up, are we going to do what's more likely? Yes.
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They don't know anything, man. Anything, man, like one of the questions for the NFL team was, and we were asking a guy running back for the Packers. Can't think of his name, but the question was, complete the sentence. Strip and use, you know, like strip mall, strip poker, strip sack, strip sack. I said name, complete the word strip. He said Perth. Strip Perth.
I went, hold on, man. I quit breathing. How is that your point of reference to complete the word strip?
Perth. That was it. I was done. That was one of my great moments.
And again, you just walk away and you just, you realize that in the moment, like, okay, this is it. And I'm going to let this thing go. After the show, he asked me, he said, Steve, is there any way we can edit that out? I said, sir, we're not editing that out. Matter of fact, we're going to embellish it. You're going to say Perth so loud.
Perth. That's funny. I've told you this story many times here before about sitting across from Steve Harvey on a flight many years ago. And he had the whole Steve Harvey get up, like the loud suit and the big hat. And he has an assistant talking Steve Harvey here because we had a Steve Harvey bit on the TV side, sat across from him on a plane many years ago on the way to a Superbowl. And he had the whole get up, the loud suit and the wide, the big hat. And a guy next to him either was his BFF or his assistant, just from the body language. It felt like an assistant dude was dressed the exact same way. That's great. And I'm like, dress like the job you want, right?
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They choose not to run. Shidora will throw to Travis Hunter, however, and that is your headline. Not breaking news, but a headline. Time for What's More Likely. Hit it. What's more likely?
Never say never, but never. Hey, guys, what's up? Everybody.
What's more likely? Chris Brockman. Everybody good? We're good.
Jay Felley, you good? Great. So, Andrew, just a quick refresher on how we play the game.
I give you a scenario, A or B, you tell me which one is more likely. Very simple. TJ, please chime in as well. Jay Felley, nobody wants to hear from you. Wow. Wow.
Yeah, I knew that. We're in the Dodger hat, man. Come on, save some wins for the rest of us. Guys, the more likely Seattle quarterback to win more games next year. The old one. Geno Smith.
Or the new one. Sam Darnold. Geno Smith. Really? With the Raiders?
Actually, you can chime in on this, Jay Felley, because it's the Raiders squad. Yeah. Geno Smith.
Really? I don't say it confidently, but I'm going to say Geno because I believe in Pete. Oh, all right. I believe in Pete, and I told Pete Monday night in Florida, sitting there eating dinner together, standing up at a reception. Oh, name drop.
No, I don't care. I used to host the Pete Carroll Show, ladies and gentlemen, way back in the day. He's like, ask about it. Here in Los Angeles when he was head coach at SC.
I told him and I firmly believe this. The NFL is a better place with him in it. The NFL is better now that he is back, and I believe in the energy.
And I mean, I'm not talking like aura or telepathy energy, but I believe what Pete can bring to the building vibes. I'd like some of the free agent moves they have already done. They're in a good position at six.
If they go running back or who knows, maybe maybe Jalen Walker is there. Who knows what they do? OK, I believe in Pete. I do.
And John Spytek. And as Mark Davis said this week, you heard what Mark Davis said, right? This is my favorite time of the year because we're undefeated.
We're undefeated. He gives it to you straight, man. Yes. Straight like his bangs right across the top of his forehead. Straight like like a P.F.
Chang's appetizer. Whatever that means. But no, I'm I'm going to take Gino. Yeah. Billy, call your shot. One of the Raiders going this year. I'm going to write this down.
What? What is your record this year, man? 17-0, baby. Call your shot 17-0, man.
That's how you do it. All right, TJ, this is for you. You guys made a move yesterday.
Congratulations. Who's more likely to start more games for the Cowboys this year? Dak or Joe Milton? Stop it. Next. Come on.
Swipe left. Dak. Barring injury, of course. Does Dak start every game this year?
Oh, no, because they will have already clinched the NFC. There you go. There you go. Come on, Andrew. I'm like, there you go. Start a game in December or January. I like the way you think, Joe.
I am going to say Joe Milton will start one game this year because of injury. Dak, historically speaking, just looking looking at the numbers, is not a guy that that often actually we looked it up. Yeah, sure. Thank you.
You're you're fantastic as well. Dak hasn't started every game since 2023. He did.
What do we do in 2023? Did not last year. It was actually 22 years ago. He did before we went to the 17 game schedule. Actually, four years for consecutive years. Yeah, and then he went, you know, 20, 21. He played all 16 and then 2023 played all 17.
So it can happen. I'm going to say it's a rough sport. Joe Milton will will start one game at least one this year. Yeah. Pulling for you, TJ. TJ, call your shot. Cowboy record.
Oh, man. Well, since Jay did the 17 and 0. And he got 20 and 0? Right now, today, I'll just say 10 and 7. You have got to be smoking something over there this morning. OK. Optimistic. All right, here we go. Hold on. It's legal. Before we go, can I can I double down on the point I made yesterday?
Sure. I guarantee you there will come a time this season where the screaming head shows and where cowboy fans will be calling for Joe Milton to start. I guarantee you.
And I'm going to go a step further. I guarantee you it will happen in August. Yeah, we said that yesterday, didn't we? Joe Milton is going to have a preseason game that's going to blow up the highlight shows. He's going to get in there in the preseason. He's going to run around. He's going to throw a 70 yard touchdown to an undrafted rookie free agent wide receiver. And the next day, Monday morning, there's going to be a topic bar.
Should Joe Milton start for the Cowboys week one? He shouldn't, by the way. But it's going to be the conversation because that's how this whole thing works. I guarantee you it is going to happen. And it may happen as early. I'm going to do it on the podcast as August.
I mean, of course it's going to happen because that shows how stupid some of this stuff is. That is going to be your summer television. What are we doing while you're trying to get the kids ready to go back to school back to school?
Right. This is ground have we gone to target yet and filled up the backpack with all the supplies, like vacations over all that. Remember trapper keepers? Get ready for it.
Yes, I do remember the trapper keeper. Oh, so good. Yes. All right, guys, more likely to be an off season. Wow.
Move Tyree gets traded or Rogers ends up somewhere other than Pittsburgh. More likely. What's more likely?
Oh, you're reading the chart. You're really thinking about this one. Thank you, Jay, for filling the air while Andrew just says, I think it's a push.
I think it's a push. This one's tough because I do think even though Mike McDaniel said the Tyree is going to be on the team where he welcomed whatever he said this week. This is not, as Mike Mack said yesterday, a very deep wide receiver class. And is there a chance that somebody says, I'll take the Tyree drama? Sure. And Miami gets the contract off the books and they take a modest return on the second day of the draft. I could see that happening.
I could also. Miami's picking 13th. They could easily take Matthew Golden there or.
That doesn't mean you'd have to get rid of Tyree. No, but if you're going to. You know what? We've done this. We're good, right?
Kind of thing. And they take a modest return for a team that says, we need to add a veteran playmaker. Brandon and I, you're not taking that contract. Like this is the guy we would take, right? He could still be explosive. He could still win games and take the top off.
I think that's a possibility. And I also think Aaron Rodgers, if he wanted to be a Steeler would have been a Steeler by now. I think he may take the job, not begrudgingly, but because it is the job.
It's a good job and there's nothing else out there. But I also think there's a very good chance that Aaron just waits and goes back to Malibu and waits for FaceTime audio to ring and waits for somebody to inevitably get hurt because it will happen. It is part of the game. Unfortunately, that phone may not ring until December. And you may not like who's on the other end of the line when it does ring in December.
But at that point, it's going to be a team that's likely in position to win. And you may go do it. So I think I'm going to go push here. I'm going to cheat.
That's not how the game is. Okay. Then I'm going to say Tyree traded. I thought Rich was on vacation to say Tyree traded. Does he do that too?
He always does. Really? We see both.
That's just the spec is real. Thank you. Thank you, Tyree. Last NFL one and then a couple, you know, kind of a hodgepodge here. More likely division winner who should most worry about a 2025 letdown. Lions or Ravens?
Lions. Lions, because they lost both coordinators. And I'm not saying that Dan Campbell doesn't have or hasn't lost his ability to coach. He has not lost his ability to coach rather.
But when you lose Aaron Glenn, you lose Ben Johnson. I do think there will be there are some big shoes to fill. And I do think that that will be felt. And eventually the law of averages tell you the law tells you that going for it on fourth down all the time.
I know the Atlantic and the analytics people are going to kill me for this. I just think there is a regression eventually. And I do think this could be their regression. Now, I think I don't know that the Vikings are going to win as many games as they did a year ago. I think the Packers are still good and the Bears are a big question mark. So I don't know that the division is going to be as good top to bottom as it was a year ago. The Lions, the Packers and the Vikings combined to win 40 games in the regular season last year, 40 between those three teams, an average of 13 and a third.
You could do the math. Obviously, the Bears won five. The Bears will be better. Do they win the division? No, but I do think the Lions, it's just time.
Take a bit of a step back. Yeah. Win totals Vegas right now.
Ravens 11 and a half, Lions 10 and a half. There you go, buddy. Didn't know that. I don't look at those things. I like looking at them. They're fun. I sometimes I do. Hey, these two teams played last night.
We talked about it on this show. Who's more likely to go further in the Western Conference playoffs? Warriors or Lakers? I'm gonna say Warriors now. I would not have said that a couple of weeks ago, but I will say it now. The Jimmy Butler thing has changed that team. Steph is still Steph, man. He is. They got pieces.
Yeah, he's been great. They got pieces and I am not. I still can't believe they got Luca.
I'm still in that camp. However, they're kind of playing with house money this year. And I believe in the Lakers more next year than I do this.
I really buy that. They feel like they that Mark Williams trade getting rejected. TJ, I think that's a huge deal for sure.
They have no rim protection. You kind of saw that last night a little bit. You're going to see that whoever they play in the first round of the playoffs. They'll obviously fix that hole in the offseason.
I'm with you on liking them better next year. Yeah. Noted NBA analyst.
You're screwing. Last one. No one more. Jay Kelly.
It's all good. I'm not going to act surprised. Aaron Judge doesn't need a torpedo bat to hit bombs. He did it again last night. First player since the Babe to have five home runs and 15 RBIs in the first six games of a season.
Is that good? What's more likely? Aaron Judge breaks his own AL home run record or the Dodgers break the win record. I'm going to say Aaron Judge. What's the record? He had 62 to 62 years ago. I can't believe I don't know that he's going to break American League. I think he will. Heck, he may get to 70. He's played six games. He already has a.8 war for all the nerds out there.
That's really good. He's on a pace for like 25 war, which is unheard of. He's going to get to 70. Write it down this year. Yeah. Wow. Write it down.
He's going to get to 70. See, can we bet them the degenerate? I make a bold talk show prediction for the sake of making bold predictions on a talk show. And you're like, I'm going to bet that. Hurry up.
Can I make money? He's plus 105 to lead the weekend home runs. You're like Ohtani plus six. Like the Dow is crashing.
Can I make it up on an Aaron Judge future? I saw a really funny tweet. Someone was like, the US, the US is like $33 trillion in debt or something. He's like, all you got to do is bet $35 trillion on a Jaylen Hurts anytime touchdown.
And we balanced the budget. Right. And you get $25 free added to your account. So come on people.
Use promo code Rockmansanddegenerate now. One Jaylen Hurts anytime TD away from balancing everything out. And I don't think the Cubs get to, I know Ryan Dempster or the Dodgers rather. Dempster said yesterday, he thinks they break the, the 116 record. I, there, there are enough, there are enough, you know, three game losing streaks and, you know, mid season slides and random injuries.
Freddie Freeman was on their B team. Went on the DL yesterday, right after we got off the air. Slipped in the shower. You buy that? Come on. Are you, are you. Baseball players have notoriously the dumbest, weirdest injuries. So why would you not believe are you selling a Freddie Freeman conspiracy theory right now is a little weird.
This is your first time meeting him. Of course he believes in that. And it's, something's a monk. Come on. That there's some shading this behind. Oh, I sneezed and threw up my back.
Really? Or were you riding your motorcycle and fell? Have you ever slipped in the shower? Like hotel tubs that like the, you know, the mat down to like, Whoa, totally.
I almost got impaled in the shower last week, like final destination. I was at a hotel that shall remain nameless in, in West Palm beach, Florida. So not the hotel where the annual meeting was happening. Cause I'm not paying 16 hundo a night for that. So I'm at another major brand hotel, their highest label, you know, that mid-market label, the brand hotel.
I'm not going to even begin to go there. And I'm in the shower and you reach through the curtain for the towel on the towel rack. Sure. Little bar that hangs there.
Sure. And bother the room was filthy when I got it. And so I grabbed the towel and I pull the towel. The towel bar comes off the wall. The bar itself is dislodged from the two brackets that are holding it into the wall. Strong guy. And go easy. And that bar, this is just a casual rip of the towel here.
That bar flies through the curtain into the shower, sharp edges, and goes directly onto the top of my foot, bruising my foot in multiple places. Boom. Imagine going out like that. So I go downstairs and on my way out of my way, would you mind? Would you mind cleaning my room and my foot's bruised? Like, I'm okay.
I'm not going to die. Right. But would you mind? Yeah. Got it.
Got it. Checked out 36 hours. That towel rack was still on the floor.
36 hours later, foot still has a bruise on it. Are you the, are you type of guy? We in Brockman and fellow have talked about this when you're at a hotel, do you like them to come clean the room? Or do you... It depends how long I'm there.
If I'm only there one night now, I'm going to hang that. Do not disturb. Right.
Yeah. I turn on Sports Center. I blast it loud and hang, do not disturb. See, none of us, once we get in the room, we like to just... I live there.
I live there now. Nobody else comes in. Nobody else comes in. If I'm there for a week, I'd like it cleaned. I'd like the bed made.
Like it cleaned. Don't you? I don't know.
There's a safe. You could, you know. I guess.
Yes, you can hide your Aaron Judge Futures in there. Taking a picture with RJ. Oh, look what happened.
We're having so much fun that we lost track of time. On Yahoo right now, they're putting a little torpedo bat next to your players who are using the torpedo bats. Really?
To let you know that they're using a special bat. They were putting a little torpedo next to the Dow, right? That's going the other way. Right. That's going down. Damn the torpedoes and the market.
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I went to the office and brought my playbook, so I knew I was going. He couldn't have been nicer, by the way. He was complimentary. He said, look, you're a tough kid, but you're trying to learn the position. I had never played.
We didn't have outside linebacker in the college I played for. It was the only position I reasonably could have played, and he didn't have time. He said, look, it's my first year too. He said, I can get you down with the Eagles. The Eagles were desperate.
That would have got a rental car straight down 80. And he said, but it's got to be, you got to tell me right now. I said, I'm done. You knew that you didn't want to go play for the Eagles? No. Why?
I don't know. It was a spur of the moment. I had knee problems. To be honest, I was sick of football. Who was the best football player that you ever lined up with or against? Roger Staubach.
When did you play against him? I played against Roger Staubach when I was at Youngstown State University, and he was at Pensacola Naval Station doing his six-year bid. Wait a minute.
This is a great story, right? Yeah. You know, they do that. He graduated from Annapolis, won the Heisman, went down there, and played football for six years. You're playing against the Pensacola Naval Station, and then out trots Roger Staubach?
Yeah. That's not fair. He was their quarterback. That's not fair.
These were high-scoring, close games. Did you rush him? Did you get him? Did you take him down?
I tell you the truth. I rushed him. I got a hold of him. I spun around one time on his leg, and he just kept wiggling his leg free, and then he threw a touchdown pass. I hit him illegally out of bounds once. I got a 15-yard penalty, and they had a guy. Their middle linebacker was a guy named Lynch, who was a naval boxing champion, who I think one of his brothers played for Kansas City, the Lynch brothers, and he wanted to kill me because they loved Roger.
Of course. So you almost started a brawl by hitting Roger Staubach out of bounds? I was just so tired of chasing him, and he just stepped out of bounds, and I thought, no, I've been running 25 yards now. 15 yards on Ed O'Neill. Oh, yeah.
Ed O'Neill, everybody. It's a Friday. Friday, yeah. It's a Friday on the Rich Eisen Show ahead of Final Four Weekend.
Saturday, Sunday, what? Got the Gardos in town as well. In town here? In here in Southern Cali Caliente.
They're in Anaheim. Are you going? Tonight, I'm actually, I have two birthday parties the next two nights, so I'm going to go Sunday. As an adult, or are you going to some kids parties? No, not a kids party. Like, got some buddies who are in town, like doing a little thing tonight.
It's in the valley, deep in the valley. Like, oh, hit me up. I may go.
And then tomorrow, my buddy's got a 50th birthday dinner. Okay. Okay.
And then a Sunday might go to the matinee. Yeah. You want to go to the, you want to bring Cage? Go to the game on? Sure. On Sunday? Maybe.
Yeah. We'll hop on your favorite ticketing app. Let's do it. Let's do it. I like baseball.
All right. So you just heard it. Brockman and I are going to, are going to take the- I have Mike Trout in fantasy, so I'm- Take Cage. I'm invested.
Yeah, I hope Mike Trout's healthy for the game. But like, take Cage down to the big A. He could buy a rally monkey. I'm having a mandate.
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True story. Reading from Pro Football Talk, but I read the initial story last night on a blog by an attorney named Josh Gerben. They are fighting over the trademark and the copyright to number eight. Dale drove the number eight car. Lamar wears number eight.
Something similar. Lamar and Trey Aikman going on as well. But Lamar Jackson is challenging the trademark application by Dale Earnhardt Jr. for a stylized version of number eight.
Reading from Florio's right up, he's the attorney. Jackson contends in his submission that number one, he's widely associated with number eight due to his NFL status. And two, Earnhardt's efforts could falsely imply a connection between the two athletes. And number three, customers could mistakenly believe products offered by Earnhardt are related to products offered by Lamar Jackson.
It's all very early in the process. Yes, it is kind of weird that you would do this. I think they are different number eights. One is red, one is purple. I mean, if he were number eight for the chiefs, I think there might be more confusion. He doesn't, he wears number eight for the Ravens. Now, granted every Lamar Jackson number eight that he may sell is not necessarily purple and vice versa, not necessarily red for Dale Jr. I respect Lamar and his people.
I mean, he's been criticized on the business side before. Why is your mom your agent? I've heard you've turned down all these marketing deals because you just don't get them done.
Offers on the table, why don't you take the money? This shows a different side of Lamar Jackson, a side that says, hey, I am going to go after the business deals, but not necessarily what you think. I'm going to plant my flag. That was me five yards on me, five yards on me. Five yards on me, throw the flag, five yards on me.
I had my laptop volume on, five yards. Wow. What an amateur move. What an amateur move.
But Lamar Jackson's move, not amateur. I respect you. But I mean, I don't know you're going to win. I'm not a copyright attorney, nor have I ever played one, but yeah, go for it. Protect your name and likeness. In an NIL world, Lamar Jackson, go ahead.
Protect your name and likeness. But it's a number that if he went to another team, he might change. Or he would pay somebody to get the number. Like Russell Wilson. I don't know if he paid Dion Banks, but he's moving to three and Banks, the Giants' corner is moving to two. Joe Namath said it was cool that Rogers could wear 12.
He changed his number and wore eight last year. Right. It's odd. I don't know. Don't ask me. Coming up next though, what Dion Sanders said about Jimmy Haslam and who the Browns are picking at two. Oh, and we're still on the TV.
Professional teas. So back in the day, back in the day when I'd be hosting an NFL network and we'd have Pelosero and Ian and Judy and Garofalo screaming at somebody off camera. And when you'd hear the bing, because somebody had their laptop open or their phone, didn't have the volume turned down, we'd always kind of point figures. One me, no, no, it was you. One me, no, no, it was you. I would take the blame. That was me.
That is an amateur move there on my laptop. It is still five yards. It is not an automatic first down.
We never did get to that, by the way. The rule changed that got voted down. Well, the Lions proposed it. They were the most penalized team of this infraction in the last few years. Illegal contact and defensive holding. Yeah.
What were your thoughts on that? Should it not be a first down or? It should not. No, it is. The rule is fine as it is, period.
I kind of feel so feel that way too, but. All right. So let's do a hypothetical.
If you could make a compelling case as to, I mean, I would hear it. All right. Let's do TJ, your Cowboys here. We'll use them as the example. Let's say the point of the Bengals, not a good example, but you send Jamar chase in motion. Then all of a sudden it's a mismatch. He's lined up on third and 14 against Tamarion over Sean, a linebacker who can cover, but that's not a matchup you want. So on third and 14, why wouldn't you, if you're tomorrow and over Sean, just hold them right off the line. Take the flag, take the five yards. It's not a first out. It's now third nine.
I live to see another day. And that's what teams would do. Heck it happens again, hold them again. It's now third and four.
What's the big deal now? Do you have to write in something? If you do two plays in a row, it's an automatic first out. I don't know, but that's, that is the unintended unintended rather consequence. Now, could you look at it differently for illegal contact? Downfield?
Because some of the times the illegal contact flags, you're like, I mean, come on, really? I mean, they're hand fighting top of the route. But defensive holding, which is when the ball is still in the quarterback's hand, that's the rule. That is defensive holding. Once it leaves his hand, it's pass interference. Defensive holding is an automatic first down and a five yard penalty. And a lot of times like third long, oh, what a cheap penalty. It gave them the first, the offensive team will tell you, well, I didn't throw the ball to the guy because he's being held. So is it a cheap penalty? But there's no way I think that thing is ever going to, not the way the lions wrote it. No, because it would just lead you to tackle a guy, arena football league style.
Go ahead. We'll take the five yards. Who cares?
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