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Chans on steady! You're really going out on a limb, aren't you? Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Hey, listen, the Eagles are really good, but I also chose- Oh boy, are they? I chose the Chiefs.
The Eagles are going to have to be up by at least 30 points. Earlier on the show, hosted pro football talk, Mike Florio, Fox Sports NFL analyst, Julian Edelman. Coming up, University of Washington head coach, Jed Fish. And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's right, our number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Jed Fish of the University of Washington is going to be strolling in here.
He's worked for Jim Harbaugh, Sean McVeigh, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll. Who, by the way, just got a text from Suze as she's coming in to do What the Football with Suzy Schuster and Amy Trask. Pete Carroll is slated to be on today's What the Football. Nice.
Oh, that's how they get down. Suzy and Pete go way back to when she covered his USC Trojans, so Pete is going to pop on. The new head coach of the Raiders with the Princess of Darkness, and that's not how I'm referring to my wife.
My wife. Suzy and Amy Trask, What the Football, as soon as we're done here. Marshall Faulk also slated to appear in a monster post-championship Sunday, getting you ready for Super Bowl edition. Overreaction Monday is out, where anybody gets their podcasts or on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. We just completed overreaction Monday on a Tuesday, as well as talk with Julian Edelman and also with Mike Florio. And if you missed any of that, we re-air on the Roku Sports Channel, as well as there's our YouTube feed, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. And all three hours are available in podcast form, wherever you get your podcasts.
844-204-rich, number to dial. There is a head coach who got introduced that we have yet to discuss in earnest, and it is the head coach of the New York Jets. They went back to the future. Back in the day, speaking of Pete Carroll, the first ever first round draft choice for Pete Carroll as a head coach in the NFL. Yes, the oldest ever head coach in the NFL. It used to be the youngest when the Jets selected him as being the HC of the NYJ. And a lot of people were like, who's this young guy? And his first draft choice was Aaron Glenn, 1994. Then he played for Parcells, and he was around when the Jets came awful close to getting back to the Super Bowl before Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez got them close. And Aaron Glenn was introduced yesterday, former defensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions.
And this is a soundbite that's gone a lot of places in his introductory press conference. To any players that's here now, put your seat belts on and get ready for the ride. Put your seat belts on and get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to be some challenges, but with challenges it gets opportunity. But here's what I do know.
We're the freaking New York Jets, so we're built for this ****. Listen, I want this job. I interviewed for a number of them, but I wanted this job. When I was going to my second interview, I wanted to make sure this was going to be the second interview. It was going to be the first of the second interviews. Because I didn't want to leave the building without shaking Woody's hand and make sure we had a contract. So I'm just telling you now, everything else was really out of it.
It was all about the Jets, and it's been that way from the beginning. I look forward to this. I look forward to it. It's going to be a great ride. It really is. It's going to be better than having your start here as a player, here as a scout, and now here as a head coach. And I'm ready for it.
I appreciate it. So two things upon hearing that. The first part of it. When I heard it, I thought, oh God. It sounded very Rex Ryan-ish to me. The only thing that was missing is he wasn't going to kiss Andy Reid's rings or whatever. You know, where the frigging New York Jets. And then a very Jeb Bush-like clap, I think, in the audience.
You know what I mean? It was just like one. Please clap. Not great.
Not great. But then, you know, then I heard what you need to hear is that he wanted the job. And that was my concern throughout this entire process. Entire process is that people around this league would hear the stories emanating from the Jets ownership suite in front office and say, no thanks.
And the candidates wouldn't be top notch because of it. Or they would read the stories. And as a matter of fact, Woody Johnson spoke at this press conference.
Announcing Aaron Glenn coming home. And untouched upon, we was asked about the dysfunction in all these stories. You know, like the Madden rating and let's not trade for Jerry Jeudy because his Madden rating isn't any good. And this is what he had to say about that. You don't believe those reports, do you?
She always had a lot of exaggeration, I probably. You know, there really was. Yeah. And you really have to take all that stuff in the grand assault.
Because you don't know how, nobody knows how involved it is. Yes, I want Aaron Glenn to coach the team. I want the general manager to manage the assets and the players. And I'll take the owner's position. That's what I'd like to do. Which is great to hear.
He also, I believe in his press conference, talked about being better at the job of owning a team. I have to look in the mirror and write. And I have to be a better owner. And I'm trying to be better. And I do self-scout. And a lot of people scout for me, you know. Right?
On Twitter. How can you be a better owner, in your view? I think I did it today by introducing you to the two leaders of this team. That's part of it. The second is just to have, I've got to have patience or whatever. I've got to let them, let them evolve in these positions. Which I think they will. I think it will be quick.
But I think they'll evolve. Hey. It's great to hear. And I'm sorry to do this. But you always accuse me of roping you in when I shouldn't, DJ. Well, I mean. I mean, that's exactly the sort of stuff I'd imagine you as a Dallas Cowboy fan would love to hear from the owner of the Dallas Cowboy.
Yeah. I'm going to step back. I'm going to let the people that I have hired.
Because he introduced a new general manager, which back in the day used to be the most important thing for the Jets. Who's going to be actually shopping for the groceries? Oh, God.
You still have the John Isaac drops around here, Mike. Please don't. Please. Come on. Oh, my God.
Ultimately, I'm responsible for the performance of our team. All right. Enough. Stop. That was like eight GMs ago. Oh, God. That used to be the most important. Like, who's going to be who is going to be shopping for the grocery?
Who is going to be the one who actually putting together? It's a very talented team that Aaron Glenn has in front of him. And so it's great to hear that from from Woody Johnson. Like, I need to be more patient.
I mean, he just fired his previous head coach five games into a season. My word. And we saw how poorly that went. So a self scout. Terrific.
Glad to hear it. And Aaron Glenn, again, I know he was. I think he probably had that line in the shoot where the frigging New York Jets or whatever, and he threw that out there. And like I said with Liam Cohen before and what we said about other coaches, you win. No one will remember.
No one. And as a matter of fact, who even brings out I mean, we still bring up the kneecap stuff with with Dan Campbell, but we're so past it now. Right. Yeah, for sure. As in like he he knows what he's doing and and and and that Hannibal Lecter stuff that he started, it was weird and and and wild.
But guess what? We turned the page on wondering if he's the right fitter. He can do the job. We're going to have a great day today.
Thank you. And as a matter of fact, Aaron Glenn was on his staff. And if he brings a little bit of the Dan Campbell to the equation, then great. But the way that he handled this part of the media availability session when asked about Aaron Rodgers and his future there. I I kind of I kind of dig here in this is what Aaron Glenn had to say in response to the New York media.
Now, in a scrum around him asking him about who's playing quarterback and Aaron Rodgers Larry Rodgers be your quarterback. You can continue to ask me the same question and get the same answer. We're still in the evaluation mode. So for anybody else going to ask that, I'm going to give you the same answer.
So don't waste your time. Very clear. Well, let's answer that. What do you look for in a quarterback? What's an Aaron Glenn quarterback? A winner. A winner.
Mental and physical. You're not going to get me. Well, let me ask you this. You know, Parcells. You know, I know you guys are close.
He always said that sales. OK. I'm Aaron Glenn. OK.
So you don't. That's Parcells. I'm Aaron Glenn. OK. OK.
He's already got the hackles up and he's got the jousting ability and he's got the work. We're going to prove it. And by the way, what's this guy supposed to say when Aaron Rodgers brought up? First of all, Aaron Rodgers is apparently not said a word yet as to whether he wants to keep playing.
Right. And this guy, of course, he's not going to shut the door on Aaron Rodgers. Why would he do that? Why would he do that in his opening press conference?
Why would it be weird? And if it comes out where he's like, absolutely, I would I would take Aaron Rodgers on. Guess what? If Aaron Rodgers says I want to come back and play, there's some contractual stuff that needs to be worked out here. And and if Aaron Rodgers is like, I'm the guy, then Aaron Glenn will have to show who Aaron Glenn is all about and explain to him that he's a bridge quarterback and we're going to get to the next one.
And it's not going to be like another Jordan Love moment here. We might go to him right away. Are you fine with that? Davante Adams, are you fine with that? If we get the if we draft a kid. What if Chador Sanders drops to the Jets?
Oh, I'm serious. I'd be shocked, for one. But who knows what if the Jets love him so much they trade him to go get him?
That'd be fun. I think Aaron Rodgers is starting week one. You know what? But but why would he why would he close the door on it? He wouldn't tell you wouldn't. Because Rodgers has got to make a stand first. He's got to make his stance known first and then the new general manager is going to have to say.
And guess what? The owner will chime in on this subject matter. I wouldn't blame Woody for wanting to get in on this chat. Enter that chat.
Or, Rich, what if Aaron Glenn has watched from afar what's going on the last two seasons and is no desire. I don't want to have anything to do with this. That's correct.
I'm not possible. But it's a forty nine million dollar dead cap hit. Well it worked out for the Broncos though. That's true. You know. And you're right.
He could be from afar saying I want none of this. I'm coming in. We're going to start our new program.
This is the frigging New York Jets. But who are you going to get in free agency? I have no idea. Because you're not going to start a rookie week one unless you move up to take one of these two guys. I have no idea. I have no earthly idea. Which is why Rogers makes sense. Certainly if Devonta Adams is sticking around.
Yeah it makes sense. I don't know. It just seems to me based off the little I know about Aaron Glenn in that meeting that it's like him and Rogers might there could be a little butting of heads if Rogers starts trying to act like he's the smartest guy in the room. But guess what? Guess what Aaron? This is Aaron. Last two years is about Aaron Rogers. Now it's about Aaron Glenn. And I do hope Woody Johnson is 100% following his own advice or whatever epiphany might have happened.
That might be too strong a word for him. But this is Aaron Glenn. This is all about letting him do his thing with the general manager that they have probably all picked together.
And they have a really talented roster. As I've told you, the first order of business is to go to Sauce Gardner. That's the first guy I want Aaron Glenn talking to.
Because that kid going out and saying I'm not telling T. Higgins to come here. We need to get him back on the program. And the new general manager needs to be told Woody can keep the white hat on on this one. And basically say Garrett Wilson is staying. So let's figure out what we're doing there and Devonta Adams can coach him up if that's what we need to do. If Aaron Rodgers stays, then those two guys, if there is some problem that's between the two of them, let's bury that thing.
And then we tell Aaron Rodgers the Aaron here now is Glenn. If that needs to be expressed to him, perhaps it does not. I don't know.
But the dysfunction does need to go. Starting now. Let's take a break.
Jed Fish of the University of Washington football program. This is going to be a lot of fun. That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Let's talk TurboTax, people. You might be sitting there going, wait a minute, Rich.
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These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. Who was your coach, Joel McHale, when you were at Washington? Coach Don James.
So the legendary Don James. How would he have handled that? Well, he wouldn't really make eye contact with me because I was a lock on and we were cattle and we were the chaff. We were cannon fodder.
But if you did something good, then he'd be like, hey, that was good. He stood up in a booth because he tried to watch the whole practice. As everyone knows, I was the worst player in Washington history. We're looking at a shot of you standing in front of the Rose Bowl right now. See, the problem is that I forgot my pads. So they were like, go back out to the bus and get them.
And then they got that photo of me. You're in your uniform, minus pads and what looks like practice shorts. So that was not game day itself then, right? No, there would have been a lot more people around.
And so, yeah, that's as close as I got to playing. I was in the stadium, but no, I wasn't. You never even got in the game? Not even like Rudy? Not even like a Rudy moment for you at any point? No, Rudy hadn't come out yet. So they didn't know about that moment. As soon as that movie came out, I was like, oh, missed my shot.
Yeah. No, I walked on and I was awful. And then they redshirted me my second year. And then I quit because that's what you do to make it in Hollywood. You quit your redshirt season. I knew that I needed, I was no, it was no. Now, you were a tight end, right?
Yes. The two tight ends in front of me and the other eight in front of me, but the two were, it was Mark Bruner and Ernie Conwell, who are, they look like Greek gods. And Ernie was cleaning and jerking 365 when he was a 19 year old. So he could bench 450 as a freshman. And I ran screaming and crying a lot on the field. And that's why no one could tackle me because I felt bad.
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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by and look who has stopped by. The head coach of the University of Washington football program, Mr. Husky himself, if you will. Jed Fish. Good to see you, Jed. How are you? I'm doing great. Good to see you. It's great to see you. Good to take a little break from the recruiting trail and say hello. Yeah.
Down here in Southern California. Man, there's so many ways to go with you to start this conversation and we'll get to, you know, your program in a second. But before you were coming out here, I had no idea your college roommate at the University of Florida was? Howie Roseman, Super Bowl contender again.
So excited for Howie and we lived together in college and we lived in apartments together and one of my closest friends. So I mean, were you, I mean, what were you talking about? Like back in the day? Like were you talking about coaching football and he was talking about, you know, putting together football teams or not really? Yeah. No, my favorite story is it's the day of the NFL draft in 1996 or seven.
I think it was. And we're living in an apartment together. We're fraternity brothers also. In Gainesville?
In Gainesville, Florida. Yeah. And he comes down with a briefcase full of items for the draft and he is ready to be the Jets general manager. And he was locked into that NFL draft weekend. Why the Jets?
That was his team growing up. And the... What the hell? Yeah.
Wow. He went to law school and ended up at the Eagles and has been there ever since. What was in the case?
The case was all of his information, his draft reports. They ended up taking Kyle Brady, whatever draft that was. I think, was that the one where they could have had sap?
Yes. And they took Kyle Brady instead? My TV took it on the chin for that one. He was not very happy with that draft. Because how he wanted, he probably wanted sap. I think it was sap.
Whoever they wanted, there were some guys that everyone thought they should have taken and Howie was one of those people and had quite a moment, quite a moment in our living room at that moment. So that's the 95 draft. There it is. Yes. Kyle Brady goes ninth overall to the Jets. Sap goes 12th.
To the Bucks. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, because sap had a red flag or two. I mean, yes. Whatever. Yeah. Okay. And so Howie was running the Jets draft better than the Jets back in the college is what you're saying. Yeah.
The Jets draft. Whatever it was at that moment in time. And then I remember saying, what are you doing? And he said, I'm going to be a general manager one day. And I said, oh, okay.
We'll see how that works. And he said, well, what are you doing? I go, I'm going to go work for Coach Burry.
I'm going to be a college head football coach and hopefully a pro head football coach one day. And he said, yeah, we'll see how that works. And luckily every summer we get to celebrate that same story. No kidding. Yeah. So Spurrier was the one who got you involved?
Yeah. A student assistant with, I think I was like the first or second ever student assistant. And then I became a GA there in 99 and 2000 with Coach Burrier and then had a chance to go work for Vic Fangio and Dom Capers at the Houston Texans. And look who hired Vic Fangio to coordinate the defense. Amazing how that all happens.
And Philadelphia. That is amazing. Yeah. All right.
I'm going to ask this question multiple times. Just fill in the blank. Your favorite Spurrier story. Give me a good Steve Spurrier story. Oh man.
There's so many good ones, right? But I think really my favorite one was just, he was coming to my wedding and he was driving up and he was driving from Washington at the time. I was coaching for the Ravens and he was driving up to New Jersey to my wedding and he gets lost.
Okay. And he calls, he kind of doesn't get off the Delaware Memorial bridge the right way. And he calls me and I don't know where he is.
He's driving around Philly. He said, I've circled Donovan McNabb's house twice at this point was his line to me. I said, oh, this is on your wedding day on my wedding day.
Yeah. I was on the golf course on my wedding day. I said, well, let me give you the phone to my dad. My dad can help you. He went to Penn. He knows Philly. My dad picks up the phone. He goes, where are you at? And he goes, I think you should probably pull over to a gas station and get a map. So he goes, he gets a map. He shows up at the wedding. Goes, the only smart person in your whole family is your daddy told me to get a map.
I said, that's the smartest piece of advice you got was get a map. But he was amazing. And there were so many great stories, but the fact that he made the trip up to our wedding and just to give me a chance to be a part of his staff, I'm forever grateful. And then who was the guy who hired, was Billick the one who hired you in Baltimore?
Yeah. Billick hired me in Baltimore. No, Brian. I worked for Brian for four years. And that was, he really was like a dad to me. And my dad passed away when I was coaching for Brian and Brian was always, he had two daughters and he always kind of took me under his wing and was just an amazing mentor and gave me so many opportunities to grow in this profession.
And we stay super close to this day. But he and his family have just been amazing and what an amazing mentor. And you know, he's an offensive guy and you know, my favorite story, you know, with him, as I said to him one time, I said, why aren't you calling it? Why, you know, why, why have you never been the play caller until later on in the career? And he said, well, if it took me 16 hours to be a good offensive coordinator, it takes me 10 hours to be a good head coach.
That's about 26 hours in a day. We don't have that. Right. So we got to figure out what we're going to do and what we're not going to do. And then of course he took over the play calling, we went 13 and three. So I said, well, how'd that go for us, Brian, maybe you could have done that a few years earlier. Well, one of my favorite Billick stories that I have, having worked with him and interviewed him a couple of times is he just bristled whenever he would hear people break down Belichick by saying, well, Belichick is going to take away what you do best. We know that going into a Bill Belichick game, he's going to take away the one thing you do best.
And Billick would sit there and go like the rest of us coaches don't have the same idea. Like what the hell, what the hell gives with that? You know? He, he, he always had that bristling aspect about him that, that we were scribing things in a way to Belichick, but he was also coaching when Belichick and Brady were doing their things too. Right.
Oh yeah. You know, he was always that way. Brian was always that way. There was a Sports Illustrated article written one time and they were talking about Gruden and how early he wakes up in the morning and they asked coach Billick, well, what time do you wake up? Because five minutes before coach Gruden says he does, it was always something, it was always something with him. And he was just, I loved it because you know, he, he had that, he had, what he was is what he is, you know, he was that tough, hard nosed, you know, guy that just didn't really back down to anybody.
Jed Fish, head coach of Washington Huskies football here on the Rich Eisen Show. When did you wind up with Bill? When did you, when did that one come? That was at the, that was in 2020. So we're jumping way ahead. Way ahead. Yeah. I was at the Rams.
It was Sean in 18 and 19. And then coach Belichick called and you know, in 18 we lost the Super Bowl to New England. And so I had to have a big, you know, whatever I say, we're having a family meeting at the house. They know we're moving. So it was 2020 and I said, girls, we're going to have a family meeting here. And I brought out like the Patriots cookies. I'm like, you know, we're going to go to New England. And my youngest daughter goes, finally, we're going to win a Super Bowl.
And then what happens, the Rams win the Super Bowl the next year. But we had a great run. I was, I actually had the Cam Newton time. But I'm so another, you know, coach Belichick and I have been very close for a lot of years. When did you first meet him?
2011, when I was coaching for University of Miami. You know, one thing that, that Bill did, I think better than, than anybody is his ties to college football are so great that he was always communicating and always trying to find out, you know, where do you see this guy versus this guy? And we had a lot of good players on that team from Lamar Miller to Philip Dorsett to, you know, a bunch of Sean Spence.
And he would talk about it and he would ask you like, compare this guy to this guy. And then as you build that relationship and trust, it just continued to get stronger and stronger. And then when I had an opportunity to go be his quarterback coach, I ran at it and it was so awesome to be with them.
And then Arizona called to be their head coach. So I wound up only being there one year, but we've stayed obviously extremely close. I hired his son to be our defensive coordinator last year. Bill was at our program a bunch and I mean, he's my number one resource. Yeah.
I mean, for, for a while, we kept showing a photograph of Bill wearing Washington gear and you know, I think we probably still have it to pop it up there. So he was around, you know, clearly. Oh yeah. And how do you feel he's equipped for this 21st century NIL world in, in, in North Carolina, if you don't mind me prying on that.
Yeah. I mean, I think he's, he's the best. He's phenomenal. And I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that he is going to have an unbelievable plan, an unbelievable idea of how he's going to do things. He's going to know exactly what it's going to take. He's going to have great conversations. You know, with what, what is it going to take to get to the next level and also be able to handle the finances because what, what bill did so well over 19 or 20 years, whatever it was exactly, it was build a team. And he was able to have those conversations with players and say, Hey, I'm not going to be able to pay you the maximum number that maybe another player would be getting in that position because we're kind of, we're also needing to sign this guard and this three technique and this nickel.
And he was able to build it. So I think he's going to have an unbelievable run there for as long as he's going to want to do it. And Chapel Hill is certainly very lucky. Is that the way it is now in college where you're basically, it is like building because clearly we've established, we didn't even get into, and I'd love to before you, before, you know, this interview ends, you know, the year you spent with Pete Carroll, who's now in Vegas and the time you spent with Jim at Michigan, who is now across the street with the chargers. I mean, you've had, you've, you've straddled the line of pro and college for quite some time. Is this, is it one in the same right now?
Jed? You know, there's some differences that the contracts are different, right? So not everyone's a free agent every six months in the NFL.
That doesn't happen, right? So you have to be able to find that balance of relationship and finances versus, you know, once you tie an NFL player down to a contract, they have a contract. I still think recruiting matters. I think that building a culture matters. We still are very much in a player centric program that what we do at University of Washington, what we did at Arizona.
I learned so much from being with Coach Harbaugh year one and year two at Michigan and being with Coach Carroll year one at Seattle. And I think when you're with these guys in their first year, as they're putting their culture in, that never goes away. How do you install a culture?
I just wonder, cause that's what we're, that's all we're hearing. Pete's going to install his culture. I've mentioned it.
I, I, I have a general sense of, you know what it is. He's always compete. He puts the signs everywhere.
He really means it. Russell Wilson's the personification of it. So you can actually point to somebody, say, see, it doesn't matter where you are on the depth chart. Doesn't matter who we just signed as a free agent.
If you work hard, you compete, you can win here. Obviously Harbaugh, what he was able to do, he pluses a team up every single time he goes somewhere. You saw it firsthand at Michigan. He just plussed up the charger six.
He plussed up the charger seven when he, I mean the Niners, when he first went there. How does one install a culture? I think it's environmental. I think you have to have your culture everywhere. I don't think you can only touch a culture with a sign. I don't think you can only touch a culture with a team meeting.
I think your culture has to be throughout your building. I think it has to be talked about daily. Um, our, our, you know, to me, if you asked me what our program is about, it's about becoming a pro. Um, everywhere in our building, it says, be a pro and we talk about being professional, resilient and original. But when we, when we talk about it, it has to be every day of a pro, make sure that he never misses class.
A pro makes sure that he takes care of his body in the training room. A pro understands that they have a short timeline to be as successful as they want to be. And to have that type of mentality, we're going to help you get there.
But um, in our building, that's going to be plastered all over the place and we're going to continue to strive to help these guys be the best they can possibly be. But being a professional in anything to me is being elite in what you're trying to get done. And, uh, you just have to talk that culture and, uh, coach Carroll's phenomenal at it. I mean, I think if you were to ask me, what's Jim Harbaugh's culture, I'd say football's everything. I mean, football is everything. I mean, he is just, he is just such a great, my favorite Harbaugh conversation. Coach Harbaugh, you would love this as obviously we're at Michigan and we're talking and we have all these different things.
We're going satellite camps and then we're trying to, you know, figure out what we're going to do on offense and figure out how many plays we're going to put in. I said, you know, maybe sometimes, you know, less is more. And he looks at me with his face, he goes, how could less be more? More is more. Less is less. And I look back and I go, I mean, I guess I can't argue that. And he said, Jed, more is more. I said, there it is. More is more.
I will never say less is more ever when talking to you, but I, but I understand that less can actually mean more is that, uh, don't try to explain that to him. Oh my God. Well, birds, birds make you nervous. If you eat birds, they're nervous bird, they're nervous chicken, don't eat chicken.
Nervous bird. I know. I mean, I'm unbelievable. I mean, the satellite camps, I remember that Jim pissed some people off when he first showed up to Michigan and he starts holding sat Michigan satellite camps in sec country. Yeah. We were there. We were, we ran through, I think it was 72 camps in 28 days.
We were doing three camps a day. We were getting out of here. We had Dale Earnhardt's plane and we got on that plane and we flew. We could be in Georgia. Then we could be in Florida.
Then we could be doing a camp in the middle of Tennessee. I mean, it was unbelievable. And it was so much fun looking back on it now, cause it's a story for life, but during that 28 days, man, his stamina, that's second to none. Well, I mean, he, he, he would, um, so you were hopping on, you, Jim Harbaugh are hanging on Dale Earnhardt's plane flying around retooling the Michigan program and about 30 other people. It was one of, it was, uh, it was this, it was unbelievable.
Yeah. It was this, this plane that we borrowed, I think it was, yeah, it was this black plane. It was amazing. And uh, we had it for like four weeks or three weeks and we just tooled around and we just promoted the program and we would drop everywhere. You know, you remember the shirtless gym picture when we were in Alabama. Then a day later we might've been in the middle of Kansas city. I mean, we were everywhere and um, well you were there with him when he stayed over in the tree house.
That was a kicker. You were there. I was there. You were staying.
Were you sleeping in the tree house? I was sleeping in the Marriott courtyard, but you gotta love Jim, but uh, he's the best. I mean, he's in that, I feel so blessed at my pro like to have the coaches that I've worked for, um, and learn from because they're all different and unique, but they all win. And that's the best part about it. Jed Fish here of the university of Washington, uh, football program.
And it's amazing. You're coaching in the big 10 again. I still can't get over it.
I still can't get over it, man. Everything is totally changed now and you know, Washington, Oregon, two schools down here in Southern California, all in the big 10, um, and the big 10 winning back to back championships too. It looks like we were living in the big, I don't know how people in the Southeast are handling it.
So awesome. You know, I would just say this, it's a national conference. That's what's the separator about the big 10 versus all these other conferences. It's national.
It's just like the NFL. Like we're at Washington and we're flying across and playing Rutgers. You know, we're at, then we're going and we're playing Indiana, we're playing Iowa. We're playing in every time zone.
You have an opportunity. We're hosting Ohio state and sure. We're going to the big house next year. We're hosting Oregon. We're going to Madison, Wisconsin. Uh, it's just so exciting to be in this conference.
The games are so awesome every week and we got to make sure we got good enough players to compete every week. Who am I seeing at the combine pound the table here for me, Jed, who am I going to be seeing in, um, in Indianapolis talking about maybe in the draft for you, Jed? You know, I really, I really hope, um, well, there's two groups, right? There's that group at Arizona that we had that I can't, you know, I can't wait to see Tetero McMillan, right? Who we recruited, who, uh, came to us and he'll be a top 10 pick. I really believe that, uh, probably the best wide receiver in the country, uh, big Jonah Sevanaya and offensive lineman that we had. Uh, I think he'll be a first round pick.
Uh, he's phenomenal. I really am hoping to see guys like Carson Bruner, uh, Mark Bruner's son, uh, was our starting linebacker at Washington this past year. I'm really hoping that he has that opportunity to be at the combine, but, um, you know, I really feel like the way the team went, there were so many guys from Washington that were at the combine a year ago that we were in this rebuilding stage. Uh, I really hope to see Will Rogers, our quarterback from Mississippi state that transferred to us his final year, um, make it have an opportunity there. And, uh, you know, it's just such a great, it's a great moment to watch him at the combine to be a part of that. And, uh, I really am excited to see where, where T-Mac goes, knowing him since my wife's flying out to Honolulu for his draft day party.
And we're just excited to be a part of it. Yeah. That's awesome.
That really is great. And I just, again, just, you know, your journey, we, geez, we didn't even talk about McVeigh too. Um, let's cause I know when I saw you, uh, at the Clipper game, which is great, I'm glad I ran into, which is what's led to, led to this conversation here, uh, McVeigh was right across the way, um, sitting there courtside and you're like, yeah, I was just seeing Sean here. I mean, what, what do you, what is the conversation between Jed Fish and Sean McVeigh, if you don't mind me being a fly on the wall sound like as you're talking football, just talking about programs and installing culture and being coaches.
What about that? I think, uh, I mean, Sean schematically is elite, but Sean culturally is even better. I hear that all the time. You know, I mean, he's amazing.
How so, what can you do to describe that? He's a constant learner and he's a constant listener and he's always, uh, talking to the best of the brightest and in this, in the profession and in leadership. Well, he's that now, I mean, people are going to him like he's the mount now that you go see. And then I get whatever information he's gotten from everybody else, but he's so smart. He's such a great listener. He puts together such a clear and concise plan every year on what he wants his team to look like, what he wants the messaging of that year to be. But the part that I love so much about Sean is that his consistent message of connectivity, that will be one that I think he is a pillar of his program and how connected the staff is, how connected the staff is with the players and how connected the players are.
We really pride ourselves to try to be like that. We talk about the Rams in such high regard in our facility at Washington because Sean's culture of connection is what allows them to handle any adversity. Yeah, I know we were, we were talking about how, uh, how many wins he has at a certain age and how he's, you know, got records for his age. But he's also got records for people, um, already in his mid, uh, by being a certain numbers before your mid forties.
And he's not going to be in his mid forties till 2031. He's just way, way, way ahead. So do you guys just chop up X's and O's stuff that you've worked on? And then he picks your brain and he's got stuff that he's worked on and vice versa. That's how it works. It is.
It is. We chop up the X's and O's and we talk culture is kind of what I would say. We have a lot of, and then we try to share at least two or three times a year, we get together, uh, you know, hoping to bring him out for our coaching clinic and then spend a day or two around that with him and with Chris Shula also.
Um, but with Sean, like chopping up the X's and O's is so good because we run the same offense. We do the same stuff. Um, so we're able to always talk about what's kind of the new up and coming let's call it, you know, how, what can we adjust or tweak to make it a little bit better for 2025 and beyond. And then on the same token, just to be able to say, Hey, how are you handling this situation?
Um, situational football is really the separator. And um, the more we can talk through that. And he calls me almost after every one of our games, text me after our games, I text him after his and just be able to just talk about one or two segments in the game. You know, I'm so appreciative of him. Redfish you're the man. So what are the next few weeks, months, look for a, a major college head coach of a program like Washington.
What does it, what does it look like? We got four days left of recruiting. Um, so tonight's of San Francisco, then the red eye to Jersey, then down to Florida, uh, for four days, just for these final four days.
And then it's about a football. It's about February getting our team together and February, March, we're committed to seeing how connected we can be as a team. And then spring ball starts and we'll see how good we can get. But I love our team.
I love where our team's going. Uh, we're young and, uh, but I've said, I've never heard an NFL coach say, we're going to build our team through free agency. So we're not going to build our team through the portal.
We're going to build it through high school recruiting. That's old school. That's the way it works. Yeah. Like we're used to.
Uh huh. So do you have your quarterback right now? We do. We have a freshman quarterback that just, uh, he started the last two games. I think he's elite. I think he's going to be super special. He threw for five or had five touchdowns in our bowl game. And um, I think this kid, uh, Damon Williams is going to be someone to keep an eye on for years to come.
And I can't wait to coach him the next, uh, two to three years and then be able to talk about him going to Indianapolis for that combine. No kidding, man. All right.
Well, I, I root for you, sir. With the exception of one day in the big house, as you know, I do know that that's no offense though. No offense taken. Okay. You understand it. It was a nice moment for you too.
I can't wait. I know you've beaten Michigan probably was a nice moment, uh, obviously, but, um, but going there, uh, I'm sure that's going to be pretty neat for you because you, and it's just pretty, like I said, I just wanted to interview you and get through, you've got so many vast experiences at both levels in so many different spots, you're, you're kind of like a tapestry of different coaches and different styles all in one man. So from Spurrier all the way through to the current day, it's pretty cool. Well, I appreciate it and thanks for having me on it. It was an awesome experience to be a part of it and, and talk football with a guy that I've watched on TV year in and year out.
You're a good man. Thanks Jed. I appreciate everybody. Check out Jed Fish's exploits and wins up in, uh, UW country.
Um, thanks for being here. That's Jed Fish, sending him off to different parts to get his program better right here on the Rich Eisen Show. And right here on the infinity sports network, it's time for a sports update with Carlos Ortiz.
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That's... Me? Yeah, that's my question. I mean, if they bring the vodka, I think we might have to.
You know, the thing that I'd consider drinking in, but from a cup, I think to the face was rough. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. Here everybody.
They're back here. There's two things that happen this time of year in between now and Super Sunday. Two things that happen every single time this time of year.
What's that? One is we find out who the Pro Bowl replacements are. Oh, true. The Pro Bowl games replacement is now we're saying. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson just got replaced. Not surprised. Josh Allen's replacement is Russell Wilson, who will soon not be under contract anywhere. Yeah.
Black and gold. Here we go. That's right. Russell Wilson's going to the Pro Bowl games. How about that? And by the way, it's basically like calling up Russell and saying, would you and Sierra and your kids like to have a weekend in Orlando and hang out?
The answer is absolutely. Play a little dodgeball. Hell yeah.
What do they do in those games now? And hey, Chris, Drake May and Matt Jones now have something in common. Round of applause there. They have now something in common. What's that? They made the Pro Bowl in their rookie season as a replacement.
Drake May is replacing Lamar Jackson. Congratulations. Nice. Thank you. Now he can make the Pro Bowl every year of his career.
It's tough to do that if you miss the first year. You know what I mean? Oh my goodness. So Chris, by.
Congratulations. By saying that, then you were saying he's never going to make a Super Bowl because he's going to be in the Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl every year? Well, I mean, if you make the Super Bowl, you're still a Pro Bowler and then you get replaced.
And the other thing that happens this week is general managers and newsmakers of teams that are not in the playoffs, but at the East West Shrine or the Senior Bowl start talking about the future. Andrew Berry, general manager of the Browns, with the rumors hot that Myles Garrett could be on the trade block, Andrew Berry said no. And he was even asked, hey, if somebody at dinner says, we'll give you two ones for him tonight. He said, OK, no, thank you.
Tastes like a buffalo. He's lying. He's lying.
If someone offers two number ones and probably like a third for Myles Garrett, yes. Every time. I don't know, dude. Oh, man.
No, no, no, no. I don't know. Why would you trade the grim reaper? You've got the second overall pick. How many more first overall picks? How many first round picks do you need? All of them. No, you don't.
You got to keep that fan base happy, too. And he's like, the question is, do you add Travis Hunter or Cam Ward? That's what you that's your question.
If that's the those are the choices. They don't have a quarterback, Daniel, Jeremiah and his mock draft 1.0, which we'll discuss at length tomorrow, has the Browns leaving Cam Ward for the Giants and having Myles Garrett have a new teammate and Travis Hunter on the back end. So there's all of that. And what, Kirk Cousins and free agency? I don't know.
If he gets released. Boy, there's just so much to talk about down the road. That's on Wednesday's edition of the Rich Eisen Show. What the football with Suji Schuster and Amy Trask, Marshall Falk and Pete Carroll are the guests scheduled. Back to wrap in a sec, actor Michael Rosenbaum, you know, some of the most talented people from some of the most fascinating people in pop culture today.
