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December 10, 2024 3:22 pm

SMU head coach Rhett Lashley discusses his team's journey to the college football playoff, including their ACC championship win and their upcoming game against Penn State. Meanwhile, the Philadelphia Eagles' passing game is under scrutiny, with AJ Brown expressing frustration and teammate Brandon Graham calling for accountability.

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Caught by Giammarche. Touchdown! A 40-yard strike. Earlier on the show, NFL on Fox analyst Rob Gronkowski. Steelers defensive tackle Cam Hayward. Coming up, SMU head coach Rhett Lashley. Comedian Sam Morrell. And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's right, our number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We spoke to Gronk and Cam Hayward, two of the best in the National Football League from past and present. The comedian Sam Morrell will be joining us in studio in about 20 minutes time. We just talked about the college football playoff Dozen, and one of the head coaches that has an opportunity to go on a run and win it all is joining us here to kick off our number three of the program. SMU head football coach Rhett Lashley here on the Rich Eisen Show. Good to chat with you, coach. How are you, sir?

Rich, pretty busy. Getting ready for the first round, but excited to be on the show with you. I appreciate you saying that. I appreciate you taking time out. Let's walk me through your emotions on Saturday when your team was down at half and you knew what was right there in front of you as an opportunity and what needed to happen, and then the game, and then you go into wondering about your future.

Coach, can you walk me through all that for me? Yeah, it was a pretty eventful 18 hours or so. We've had a great season. We were excited to play in that championship game, thought we were ready to go, and we just had a really bad first quarter. Gave them some really gift opportunities they took advantage of and found ourselves down 24 to 7 at halftime. We went in at half and we just said, look, we couldn't have pretty much played a worse first quarter.

If they can do it 24 to 7 and a half, we can too. Our guys did a great job of regrouping. They believed it.

They knew it. I mean, I think we had outgained them in the first half. They felt like we belonged, like we have all year. But credit to them to go out and until the last 16 seconds they did. We won the second half 24 to 7, came back to tie it with 16 seconds to go, and then we didn't cover a kick the way we should, and their kid made an unbelievable kick and we lost.

Then you go into the locker room. You're obviously disappointed you didn't win the championship, but that happens in big-time games. Someone's going to lose, but then knowing that in about 11 or 12 hours you're going to find out if you'd done enough to get into the playoff. A lot of emotions there. So we were on pins and needles and pretty unsettled for the next 11 or so hours traveling home. Then fortunately a little after 11 central time we saw our name called. So it was a pretty wide range of emotions in those 18 hours. I'm sure.

Then you go from having four quarters to control what you can control, and then you're immediately in a position where you can't control a damn thing anymore except pounding a table. Did you or anybody in the administration make some phone calls to anybody in the committee or anything like that to politic after? Yeah, we don't have access to the committee.

I mean, we politic for the week leading up. I know our conference did, our commissioner did. I mean, I'm grateful to the committee for doing what I think, at least what it looked like to me, most of America thought was the right thing.

You know, it's one thing. Conference championship games are a big deal, and only us in Oregon went undefeated in a power four conference in the regular season. You know, and so we earned the right to be there, and had the committee have gone into championship weekend and left us outside of the playoff bracket, then I'm fine with that. Like, we know we have to win to get in like Clemson did. But the fact that they had us in, they had us ranked ahead of two teams, Indiana and Alabama, that were also in the field but weren't playing in their championship weekend, you know, you just you know, you just felt like we earned the right to be in championship weekend, but if we lose, maybe our seed gets affected, which it did. If we had won, we'd have had to buy and be the three seed. We lost. We're the 11 seed, but you just feel like, man, you don't want to penalize people for earning that opportunity, because if you do, then in the future, like, who's going to play in conference championship games? And did you, did you learn through television that you made it? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they don't, that stuff doesn't get shared. We were, we were watching in my living room, holding our breath as ESPN did an excellent job building drama for that last one. We were either going to see a Mustang or we were going to see an A, and when we saw the Mustang, my kids went crazy running around the house, and you know, it was a good moment. How old are they? How old are your kids? My twin boys are 14. My twin girls are eight. Wait, so you got two sets of twins. Is that what you're saying? You got two sets of twins? I do.

How do you still have your hair, man? Well, it's running away from me. It's an efficient way to do things, but it's crazy. It's efficient, but crazy. That is definitely, well, I could say the same thing about the college football playoff committee, right?

I mean, I mean, it's kind of wild. So you learn that way. And then, then what? You make phone calls, you got to get to work.

You got to start watching Penn State, right? Yeah. We, we'd set a team meeting for three, no matter what our fate was going to be. So we came in and did some things here or there, and then had the meeting and celebrated with the guys. They were really excited to get another opportunity to go out and prove they belong. And after we kind of felt like we let one slip the night before, and then, yeah, I mean, we got our hands full. We're going all the way up to Happy Valley, 106,000 people on the road at Penn State.

It's going to be awesome. Yeah, but this is what you live for though, right? That sort of stuff, right? If you're a competitor, that's, that's the opportunity. I mean, you got to look at SMU and our program that has a rich history. As you know, we've, I mean, you go all the way back to Dope Walker in the thirties to Eric Dickerson and the Pony Express in the eighties, but we just haven't been back on this stage in a while. And so to get back to this stage and to be playing in games where it's SMU and Penn State, there's 12 teams playing for a national championship and we're one of them. That was the vision. That's where we wanted to be. And so we're excited. We know it's going to be a difficult challenge to overcome, but that's why you compete to get a chance to go do it.

Brett Lashley, the head coach and the ACC coach of the year of SMU right here on the Rich Eisen Show. So how do you prep for the first ever tournament like this? I mean, it's one thing like in, you know, where you got to win one or two to win it all. Now you got to win four. I mean, and there's really no, there's no history here in college football to do something like what you're tasked to do.

So what do you, what do you do do right now? Yeah. You know, from a counter standpoint, we're okay. We're 13 days from the announcement to our game. So it's almost like this week's like an off weekend season for us. So we get an extra week of prep. We also get a week to try to rest our bodies and recover from a long season. And then next week's like a normal game week. So, you know, that part of it almost is like riding a bike. It's the, obviously the prep to figure out a way to try to beat Penn State.

And that's a challenge in and of itself. But then the college football transfer portal opened up yesterday. So you've got free agency in the middle of your season, which no other sport does. And so we're trying to retain our roster for next year. We have guys that are seniors, right? That this is it for them. So we have visitors coming that are in the transfer portal to potentially come be a part of this team and replace them next year. And we're preparing for a playoff game.

How the hell did you do that? I mean, right? I'll let you know in about 12 days. We're working on it. It's uncharted territory for the 12 teams that are in this deal. And we're all handling it, I think, like football coaches. You know, we see a problem. We just run to it and find a way to solve it.

And try and fix it. And so have you started grinding tape on the Nittany lines? Have you done that yet? We started yet? We have.

Our staff has for sure. I've not gotten to it as much as I'd like. I'm getting into it this afternoon. Because of the portal stuff? Is that what you're saying? Pretty much, yeah. So that's how you're going to start digging into it? Yeah. Okay.

Gotta be able to multitask. I bet. Rhett Lashley here on the Rich Eisen Show. I spoke to Josh Hypel last week. He's a head coach in this tournament now and also played quarterback.

You did too. How do you coach Kevin Jennings? Hard? How does a quarterback, former quarterback now in HC, coach their QB right now? Yeah.

Well, two things. One, I got an incredible quarterback coach in D'Eric King, who was a really good college football player. And I got to coach him as well. So he does an excellent job coaching the quarterbacks.

We do it together. Yeah, I think you got to be demanding of your quarterbacks. At the same time, you got to have a great relationship with them. The coach, the play caller to quarterback relationship is arguably as big of a relationship as any in sports. Because the quarterback, look, you got to have a good one, first of all. And then if he doesn't play well, you're not going to win.

It doesn't matter who you are and at what level. That's why in the NFL every year when the playoffs get around, the teams that are in it are the ones with the best quarterbacks. And there's very few exceptions usually. And so you have to be able to build confidence in them, build your offense around what they do very, very well.

And at the same time, to your point, be demanding of them. So that takes a lot of time together, a lot of trust both ways. And we just couldn't be more proud of Kevin. He's a winner.

He's a leader. And our team really believes in him. And obviously a lot on his shoulders and his arm and so many hopes of so many SMU fans that can't believe what's happening with your team and are very excited to see it all. So do you guys have any connection with the Pony Express guys or those days are over or what? I mean, any of those SMU guys still around the program for you, coach? What's been great, when I got hired three years ago, a lot of the former players weren't.

At least maybe some of the former players from the last five or six years, like a Courtland Sutton or, but not a lot. And so we've really reached out and it was really cool. Like I got texts from Emmanuel Sanders yesterday, just telling me how excited he was watching that game and how fired up he is for us to be in the playoff. And then Eric Dickerson and Craig James were at the game. They were honorary captains at the ACC championship game. I think Craig's come to almost all the games this year at home because he lives nearby and Eric's come to three or so.

Like they care, they text, they're involved. That started a few years ago. And of course we've been winning, so that helps. But I think it just started with making sure those guys felt welcome back.

You know, I talked to Kelvin Beecham the other day, he's in the middle of his season for the Cardinals right now. And so, you know, James Prochay, on and on and on. And you know, we're now winning, we're on the national stage again. So those guys are proud of their program and they feel welcome back. And that's a big deal to us because we do, we have a lot of those guys. And so, I mean, Eric Dickerson still has the NFL record for most rushing yards, I believe, in the season. That's pretty impressive. That is correct.

And then just you, your journey. Can you tell me about, Gus Malzahn's your guy, right? He's the guy that pretty much brought you in to coaching back in the day? Yeah, he was my high school coach. So when I was just a seventh grader at my school, he got the head high school job. And I played in his system in junior high and then he coached me my sophomore and junior year of high school before taking another job.

And so, you know, I learned a lot of the game. That player-coach relationship I was talking about for me was him. And then when he got into college, you know, he gave me the opportunity to get in as a graduate assistant and then one day be his OC.

And so, yeah, I owe a lot of my opportunity to him. But is it true, again, this is a, by the way, not to bully coach Signetti on you, but I Googled you. Oh gosh. Is it true you left coaching for a couple years to write a magazine? Is that, did you do that?

No? It's true. It wasn't exactly that, but it is true.

Yeah. So after my first year as a graduate assistant in 06 in Arkansas, we had Darren McFadden and Felix Jones and those guys. Gus took the OC job at Tulsa. I was going to go be a graduate assistant coach to running backs. It was an incredible opportunity. I was in my early twenties. I was engaged.

We were getting married like four or five months later. Long story short, I just went over there and didn't have a real piece about it. And I didn't do it, which at that point pretty much ended my career in coaching. Like it's really hard to get those opportunities. And when you say no to one, you're, you're kind of out. And I won't get into all the reasons. It ended up being the right decision for me, even though it made no sense.

Sure. So I got married and the first two years of our marriage, I wasn't in coaching and I had figured out about a month after I didn't do that, I got to find a job. And so my brother-in-law had a friend in Oklahoma. Anyways, they had a, a franchise called at the time, high school sports, the magazine later became vibe, the magazine, which is like, it's like a sports illustrated for high schools in your state. That's what I can describe it.

So I never wrote the magazine. I was basically the owner, director and the marketing person. And I did all the sales and hired an editor, but I was like a sports sales marketing business.

Yeah. I did that for about 22 months, but six months in, I knew I needed to coach. And then fortunately for me, a few years later, Gus got the OC job at Auburn and he wasn't mad at me anymore. So he called and said, Hey, do you want to go to Auburn? And I think I was in Auburn before he got there. Yeah. And now you're the ACC coach of the year for SMU and the college football playoff first ever 12 team field. It's just unbelievable how this stuff works out.

Right? It's crazy. Make it up. Everybody's path's different and it's kind of cool.

Everyone's got a unique story. Well listen, good luck, sir. It's a pleasure to have you on here, get to meet you and get to know you as a, as a Michigan Wolverine. You know, I'll be, I'll be keenly looking at your game against Penn state, maybe with a certain interest. Normally I don't wear red but you know it'll be one of those days for me. You never know.

You never know. I'm in. I'll take all we can get. Okay. Well I look forward to chatting with you again. Good luck against Penn state and a pleasure to see that you made the field. Thank you. Thanks, Rich. Appreciate it.

You got it. That's Rhett Lashley, the head coach of SMU football, the reigning ACC coach of the year. What a journey.

I Googled him. I love that. No matter what line of work you're in, coaching, our business, everyone's journey is different and unique to them, but it helps them, you know, shape who they are and how they look at going about the job each day.

He's not wrong. When you're, when you're trying to, when you're in coaching and some coach says, you come with me and this is an opportunity for you. And these opportunities are like golden tickets to be a grad assistant. Even, you know, you hear that grad assistant. Okay. But yeah, you're a grad assistant.

Do you want to be a coach or not? And if you say no, it's like excommunicated. Why would I call you again? I'm not calling you again. Exactly.

There's someone else to replace you. Right. And now he's the ACC coach of the year for SMU football. Crazy. It's great. I like that.

Take it on Penn State. No offense. Yeah. I mean, that was a little harsh, you know, you want to wear red and I'm sitting right here, you know, but cool. Actually, I texted you what I was going to tell him. Yeah, exactly.

Tell us what you're doing over the weekend. Oh, my bad. I've missed, I've missed that in the 76 that were there. 76.

And it's true because I just counted them by the way, ladies and gentlemen. All right, let's take a break. Sam Morrell is going to come out here. Very funny man. Let's chat with him.

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Are you serious? Yeah, it's crazy. We rehearsed that thing for, we choreographed the hell out of it and we rehearsed it for a month. We had it down. But then, you know, you get in front of the cameras, they're actually rolling and 300 extras adrenaline gets going and he tagged me and I thought, that's not good. It wasn't agonizing until the next day.

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I mean, nobody, I couldn't tell it. Were you medicating yourself throughout the day, Kelly? I had a lot of ibuprofen and there was a medic on the set who sort of felt it. I kept, people kept telling me, John T. Wilder, who was in my corner, was like, no, I don't think it's broken.

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I think he just said, nah, I don't think so. Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show Radio Network, sitting at the Rich Eisen Show Desk, furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you. Call clickrainger.com or just stop by. Look who stopped by back here on the Rich Eisen Show in advance of his new tour, the Errors Tour, launching in February. Tickets on sale now at sammoral.com. Sam Moral is here. Good to see you. Good to see you. Fresh in from New York, are you? I was in Phoenix, Austin. I've been all over.

You're all over. Yeah. But that's your base of operations is New York, pretty much? Yeah. Yeah. I'm a New Yorker.

The home of Juan Soto for the next 16 years. Just I'm shocked. How are you shocked? Come on. I mean, I knew he was going to go to the Mets, but it's, I'm still shocked. I just felt he was going to, he didn't want to be, the Mets seem more fun right now. I'm a Yankees fan, but like, they just seem like a more fun team. Why does it look more fun to you?

Why would it be more fun? Just, you know, like that Edwin Diaz song, the trumpets are playing and you can have a beard. Enough of this, enough of this, no beard stuff.

Beggars can't be choosers at this point. This isn't the nineties Yankees. I'm a fan, but like, come on, make the team look fun. Also like Sam gets it. I mean, you can't win it with, you have, you know, Stanton was incredible in the playoffs and judge was terrible, but he got us there. You got to give him credit for that. He's the MVP.

He's phenomenal. But he gave us, I mean, that was tough. Don't tell me you weren't getting angry by the end. You know, by the end it was pretty rough. By the end I was resigned. Yeah. That was my, my emotion was he wasn't resigned. We turned the trumpets into trombones though.

The wamp wamp. When clay Holmes comes out of that door. Ooh, I'll tell you what, although he's sorry, he's a starter now. He's going to turn in. He's going to turn into Brett Saberhagen, my bad. That's right.

Cy Young clay homes, right? Maybe it's good for the Yankees to be humbled a little sometimes. And also guess what? It's a ton of money. It's it's an insane amount of money. Like I'm a Knicks fan when the net signed Durant and Kyrie, and then it got hard and we're like, all right, it's over.

We, and now look what happened. So just getting the big flashy name at that price. I know it's a different sport. There's a, there's no cap, but I'm with you, you know, and I don't know, again, if that's just my coping mechanism here to sit here and say, well, you know what? That's a lot of money for one guy who does one thing, which is hit. Yeah. There's other parts of the game, like fielding is, you know, base running and things of that nature.

And he's excellent at hitting and everything else is not, you know, what you pay 765 million over 15 years about. But that's how they're telling us to get over this. So they're like, just sign a bunch of pieces. It's literally like you got dumped by the hottest girl and your friends are like, just bang a bunch of fours. You know, it's like, all right, we need, I mean, we need some pieces for sure. Well, of course the depth was a problem. Like I don't think it's not going to be fours though.

Sam, if you can't get to 10, get yourself five twos. That's what I'm saying. Maybe five twos, but that is part of my coping mechanism to see who they are going to get and will they spend 760 million in the aggregate? Like even if we don't want guys beating the Dodgers right now, I mean that it's so stacked. Also, you look at what you get out of Soto, sorry, Shohei versus Soto. It's like you get two positions versus one. I know you get to defer the contract.

You get this huge audience in Japan. I mean, it just seems like Soto is a great player, but it seems like you're overpaying by a lot. You know what?

I'm with you and I hope that you are right when it's all said and done. And, but I can see what you're saying. Like the Mets are kind of those lovable guys and Queens, the Yankees are this CEO team that needs to win or nothing. And the Mets are like those lovable losers, but they're not losers anymore.

And as a matter of fact... They won more games against the Dodgers than the Yankees did. Brother, and as I said on Monday's show, the thing that's very difficult for me to comprehend as a, you know, a long time Yankee fan going back to Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson is that the Mets can now spend more money than the Yankees. That the whole business of whatever the Yankees were, pinstripes, come to the place where DiMaggio played and Mantle played and you can make more money than you can anywhere else.

Those days are gone. DiMaggio is turning in his grave right now. He, I mean, he really, I mean, he was so the purest Yankee. I mean, yeah, you look at the history. We got the cool history with Garrick and Babe and DiMaggio and Mantle and Berra, everything, but you have to look at right now. And right now the Mets seem fun and being a scrappy underdog, baseball is about being a scrappy underdog. It's about like, you think of the rally caps and how it's like a dirty sport. And I don't know.

Yankees, I think need to be humbled a little, but hopefully we get, we get a bunch of pieces and you figure it out. Oh, I thought you were referring to DiMaggio as the guy dumped by the hot girl that needed to find somebody else. Well, yeah, I guess. That's what you meant right there. No, but I mean he, yeah, right?

Madeline Monroe? Yeah, you get it? Yeah, I got it. I'm just making 50s pop culture references. Try and keep up with me. The old guy. Yeah.

And it's interesting. It's funny, Mike Hoskins, if you have that photograph ready that I was talking about beforehand, we did meet the, the Mets owner, you and I back in the day together, you just don't remember. It was in the form of Bobby Axelrod. There he is right here on the screen. There's, we had no idea. He had no idea he was going to own the Mets. It feels like a billions plot too.

The whole thing does. Yeah. You know, I'm sure Wags was trying to make sure Juan Soto was, you know, hanging out and having fun while he's learning how to sign with the Axe cap. There you are in the middle. There I am right there. I'm just glad he didn't, I'm glad he's in the city. I, I'm one of those Yankees fans and I know I'm going to get for this, but like, I'm one of those Yankees fans that like, I don't hate it when the Mets are competitive.

I like, I think it's good for the city. I'm a Giants fan, but I don't hate it when the Jets are, luckily they booked up. I mean, I mean, the Giants are hard to watch. Yankees and Mets are different than Mets, Giants and Jets. You know, it's, it's kind of different than, than Knicks and Nets either. But, but the Nets aren't even in the equation. I don't even think Nets are like, they're Jersey to me, so I don't think of the Nets. You don't go to Barclays? You don't go, you don't go there? I go for Liberty games.

I don't go for the Nets. Those are fun games, right? I love it.

Yeah. I mean, I didn't love that Sabrina Ionescu shot one of 19 in the championship, but they won. It was an ugly, that game set women's rights back like 20 years. That was rough.

Cause I'm a fan of the WMB. I'll bite on that one, but that was that game five. I remember there was a Sunday night game going on. There was a game five going on and it was a baseball playoff game going on.

Right. Wasn't something like that. That was a hot time in New York where New York felt on fire and then it just fell apart, but Mets, Yankees, Liberty, and then, you know, the Jets, the Jets were two and two and the Knicks were getting started. Aaron Rogers, two and two, like, it's so funny to look back, by the way, how bad do you have to be to depress Jets fans? You have to be so bad to be like, you gave them hope and then you just stripped it away.

I mean, the Aaron Rogers, this documentary coming out just infuriates me. Like, you know, he thought he was going to have like an MVP season when he was producing that. He's like, I'm going to bounce back. You get to be when you're performing at a high level. You don't get to be, you don't get to be like, you know, yeah, you were a hot chick. So we put up with how crazy you were, but when, but when you're not that hot anymore, we're just like, Oh yeah, you're just kind of crazy. It's not that fun. Three and 10 right now.

Three and 10. I don't know if he's going to come back, but it's funny. We're at the point for the Jets and Giants where we're rooting for them to lose for the draft picks. But it's like the Giants at that every year.

Like I was so depressed. Daniel Jones was our guy. I never saw it. He seems like a really nice kid too, but like, I just never, he gave us one game in the playoffs against the Vikings. It's a hell of a game. It was a great game, but it's one, like, that's the bar now, one playoff win. He made about a hundred million off that game, I think. Well, what do you think Juan Soto got paid off that one at-bat?

Against the guardians you're talking about? That was a badass at-bat. That was the coolest at-bat. But you know, Daniel Jones is like, that was like years of just this guy sucking. Like he was at the comedy cellar one night and my friend's a bartender and he's like, dude, Daniel Jones is here. Do you want to meet him? And I was like, nah, I'm good. You didn't want to go meet him?

Nah, I just, I'm not, I was never a huge fan. I didn't see it, man. He seems like a good kid, but like, I just didn't. I would've, I would've met him just to see if, how he laughed. I've never seen him laugh. Have you ever seen him laugh?

Or blink or do anything? Never seen him laugh. So you went to, Daniel Jones went to a comedy club?

By the way, as a comedian, that's who you want to meet, a person you've never seen laugh ever. No, he, dude, he, I never saw it. No, I just. Okay. If it was any Nick, I probably would have been. Oh, there he is. Then we found a father. Oh, there we go.

All right. Because he's a Viking now. That's why he's smiling. You need to be a backup for a while, just because if he goes to another bad situation, it's over. I think he's just going to go there and just, just learn, make, make, make a, you know, a million bucks and just learn.

That's what he's pretty much doing. I've got Sam Morrill here on the Rich Eisen show. You gotta be psyched about the Knicks. I know that they're, you know, um, were you one of those folks that, that were bummed that they traded for Colonel Anthony towns because of who they traded away. I wasn't bummed. I just didn't see it. Like I didn't see him being this good. I knew he was, I knew he made more sense in our offense. I was a Randall supporter, right? Always like say what you want about Randall, but that guy, like he always gave a hundred percent. Well, he's the one you were referring to Sam moments ago, the Durant Kyrie arrival in Brooklyn. The fact that Durant didn't even look at Madison square garden. He goes, I'd rather go to Brooklyn was a kind of a blow for the Knicks because at that time, like nobody was coming, they put Durant on like the, the season ticket brochure, like, Hey, these are the guys we're going to chase down, not actually go acquire. And, and then Randall showed up. He goes, I'll go there, turn himself into a, but nobody, he eventually turned himself into some second chemo NBA twice. He's a beast, which is why I understand diehard Nick fans were like, we got to get rid of him. But I mean, cats, the man that's the man Dante really hurt losing to, because for a one year, Nick, like who couldn't even name who's more fun.

That was an insane, I was a game too. When he hit that game winning three, losing Hardenstein actually hurt us the most because of what he could do defensively, you know, great pass or high IQ guy that, that changed the identity of the team. So the one thing that hurts watching this year, as opposed to last year's, we're not getting those offensive boards.

Like we used to, we were beating teams up and now we're a finesse team, which is fine. Cause offensively we're ridiculous, but we miss Mitch Robinson. We need someone to beat you up a little, especially if you want to get past, you know, a team like Cleveland, you, you need to beat up Jared Allen. You need to beat up Mobley.

Randall beat up Evan Mobley every time we played them. Hey man, I know Cleveland's got maybe, you know, the best record, but it's really his Celtics team that you got to eventually face. That's the end of that. You got to get to the Eastern conference finals. Of course. Yeah, the Celtics are the best team.

They're the best team. And I met Jaylen Brown and it annoyed me how cool he was. I wanted, I did a benefit, like not a bet. It was like a, for fashion week, they dress all these comics up. We did the Apollo and I was in, they put me in like a fur coat. And when I say I bombed, I, I opened, I think my first line was, I'm in a fur coat.

I'm like, man, I haven't sweat this much since I raw dog to Q and on chick silence. And I'm like, maybe not the right icebreaker for this crowd. And Jaylen Brown's in the, in the green room after. And I was like, Oh man, we'll, we'll screw this guy. Anyway, he's a Celtic. I hate him. And then he came over and he was like, so cool.

And I was like, damn it. He's all right. And even, and he even entertained, listen to how much I hate the Celtics and was cool about it. Well, I mean, he's, he lost one playoff game and dominating, you know, and they even have porzingis for all of them and he's using porzingis. I mean, forget it. He's a cool guy.

And that's cool. But he also, I hate that they gave the Celtics ammo. I like, you know, Tatum is getting all this crap for not being the finals MVP.

He didn't get to play in the USA games. Brown doesn't even get picked. It's like, you know, so you win the championship and you come into the season angry. I hate that they did that for them. Cause they're already like, they're a super team defensively. And I hate how they play 63 is a game.

It's so boring. I understand what you were saying, Sam, which is why I tried to use my microphone on behalf of the next faithful for good, trying to stir up some sort of a controversy within the Celtics locker room. The fact that Jalen Brown is angry, he wasn't picked means he thinks his teammate, Derek white didn't deserve to go.

So I'm trying to, I'm trying, I'm trying to use it in a way like, Hey, if you're every minute that you think you've got that chip on your shoulder. Cause you weren't picked. Well, who's the one who was picked instead of you. That guy's right on the other side of your locker room. Drew holiday on that side.

You didn't think Drew deserved to. And Tatum's like, well, holiday got all those minutes and I didn't get any minutes at all. Like you see what you see where I'm going.

And I heard Brown says that a white has messed up teeth too. Let's keep seeing all kinds of stuff. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.

Cause he chipped a tooth, right? I think the next championship, I think the Knicks are doing really well considering how many new pieces they have and like, you know, give bridges bridges is we love to get angry early, but like new team, he's in a new role. You're asking him to be the duty was like four years ago, not the duty was a year ago. So give, give bridges a minute, I think. And maybe two weeks from now, you'll be raising a, an NBA cup banner next to the Billy Joel banner next to the, uh, you know, get Josh Harder's AP next to Walt Frazier, right? Next to all Frazier's retired Jersey. Here comes the Emirates banner. Do we put those up?

Do you raise those up? Lakers put it up. Lakers put one up. They're not putting up much this year. They are, they're looking, I don't know.

I mean, it's going to take, I mean, look, listen, LeBron finally missed a game. So, uh, I, they started like a house of fire. I don't know. Yeah.

A house on fire. Three wins. They're not the calves, you know, they're above 500.

The Lakers are about 500 Sam moral here on the rich eyes and show the errors tour. I liked that. Yeah.

Although I'm so annoyed. I was just in Phoenix and I saw Murr from impractical jokers, the errors tour. I was like, oh, come on. Oh wow. And then someone else tagged me. They're like, that was my tour. It was like some guy with 30 followers. I'm like, I'm sorry. I didn't follow. I didn't pick up on that. I don't know everybody. I guess we all made the same dumb Taylor Swift.

There should be a database where you have to like enter it in and you can see live updates. I think there is, it's called Google. We're just all lazy. Or they could have been playing an impractical joke on you, Sam. Damn it.

I hope you didn't overreact because that might be coming soon to a YouTube channel near you. Oh, I don't know. Um, but it's also comedy. Don't you guys all rip each other off?

Oh yeah, sure. No, I mean, rip each other off, you know, sample Dan Patrick calls it sampling. That's what he gets. Dan Patrick always that's not comedy. That's how men see a guy destroyed.

Everyone hates men see it for that. That's what Dan would, we would always do that in sports center where, you know, we would accuse each other of like, didn't I call it with that on the show the other day? And Dan would call it sample. I'm just sampling. You just, you took Booyah? Uh, I've never done. No, that one I did not take.

You can't sample? No, who is it? We, we talked about this on the show once upon a time where IQ, Steve birth, Yuma stealing, say hello to my little friend for me. And he heard me talk about it and called into the show to push back. Yeah. Yeah. I used to do that for my, uh, for a home run call. Say hello to my little friend.

Weinstein said the same pickup line. I think everybody check out tickets at sammoral.com. Um, that starts in February that you were a co-hosting the games with names pod with the Edelman for a while. Yeah, we had a good time, man. I love, I love Julian. He's the best.

He's a great guy. Yeah. So, uh, what were some of the games with names? I did that show once you weren't not, you were not co-hosting. Yeah.

They want to shoot out here and I'm on the road too much. So when it was in New York, it was easy, but they couldn't stockpile them. So I just couldn't do it. I chose the Bart Scott, uh, jets game that beat Edelman as my game, just to troll on him. Our first episode was the, he wasn't on the team at the time, but it was the giants over the Patriots. When the first one, the helmet catch, I mean, it's just, and we had Eli and Teddy Brewski on. It's cool when you have a guy come on to discuss the loss.

Yes. Cause that's, but also it's Teddy Brewski. You won three Super Bowls. It's, you know, Oh, he's fine. Teddy's good. He's secure. He is that.

Yeah. I mean, that was probably as a sports fan, the craziest. Cause the thing about football is it's one game, you know? So it's not, you know, a seven game series, but that's probably number one.

And then I don't even know. I mean, cause he's Boston royalty. We'd have all these, we'd have like Ortiz on, we'd have Paul Pierce on and it's like, I know I'm reliving some games. Ortiz of course hit me with the three Oh, you know, game seven comeback, which like you deserve it.

That's an incredible achievement. I was sitting here for just a split moment during the world series that the Yankees were going to come back from three Oh down to beat Dave Roberts. Who's stolen base. As we all understand, remember spark the three Oh back in the day. You know what I mean? That game sucked. I, yeah, we had great guests.

I think the only guests who every once in a while we get someone who loved Julian and just was like, who the hell is this guy? And I remember Kurt Warner just hated my guts. I think that guy really didn't like me. And then I could tell because your style, your sense of humor, your language, I was making jokes and I was like, Oh, this guy doesn't like me. And so I just, when I'm bombing, I feel like the anxiety to double down.

So I just kept making masturbation jokes. And he was, and he just looked at me like, what the hell? I was like, well, I'm going to bomb. I may as well bomb in flames and Julian's bailing me out. Of course, he's laughing at these horrible jokes, but yeah, Warner didn't like me. Oh, Kurt, I can't wait to say this was on my show this week, Kurt. Oh, he probably doesn't remember who the hell I am, but, uh, Phil Sims even laughed at my, you know, course humor and, uh, yeah.

And he's a, he's an old gent. I love, yeah. Phil Sims was cool.

I mean, if Phil had to survive bill Parcells and his fork tongue man, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure those ears are not very delicate. Yeah. We had so many cool guests on the show. I mean, that's the one thing I miss is, uh, I mean, I had a great time with him. So, I mean, we're still, we're still good buddies. And then, uh, your recent special, Sam Morrill, you've changed, premiered in July.

That's still available on prime video, which you can see right here on the Roku portal. That's a good one. That's, uh, that's, uh, I'm proud of that one.

Why is that? It's just, you know, I think I toured pretty hard with it. You know, I, I went international, that went to Australia.

I went to Europe. I like really ran it through the mud to make sure it was, it was tight and funny. And, uh, yeah, like that's a good one. Okay.

Some of them aren't as good as others. Uh, and the, we might be drunk pod fellow comedian, Mark Norman, that, that is for those who have yet to, uh, take it in as you you've released your own brand of whiskey and you're just, you're, you're hammering. Yeah. We get drunk. Uh, we don't get drunk every episode.

We would be in bad shape. I mean, some, some guests are like, can you do, uh, 11 AM on Tuesday? And I'm just like, Oh damn, do we have to drink? So we don't always do it, but, uh, yeah, we, we have, it's a lot of fun, man.

A ton of people. Uh, you know, it was cool. We had Nick Offerman, we did his scotch and he did our whiskey.

So, you know, he's got the Offerman, the Lagavulin, which is like a dream come true for a scotch drinker. Uh, him, we've had, you know, every comics come through, Bill Burr, Bobby Lee, uh, Tim Dylan, every comedian comes through. Uh, we had Alison Brie on the actress, Mark, I think farted on her. Uh, is that so he didn't do it on purpose. When you say you think I would, I would sit here and I would sit here and believe that that would be confirmed for some reason, instead of just saying he farted on it. It's just like, how is something like that in doubt?

Yeah, no, he did it. Uh, we had, uh, yeah, we've had a million different, yeah. Uh, so many guests, so many, uh, good guests. Uh, it's a good show.

It's fun. Fantastic. You come through, have a drink with us sometime.

We we've had some, let me know. Yeah. We've had, I'll set lebitard on. We had Richard Jefferson on Jefferson got hammered.

Just kidding. He got hammered and he left. Uh, he left his like a big, nice wallet and he had to come pick it up at the comedy seller from me.

But you do that in New York or you do it out here. Yeah. He brought the Offerman blend too. He's a scotch guy. Yeah.

I'm more of a red wine guy, but that's, I can see that we'll drink red wine with you. When you say I could see that. What do you mean? Come on. I don't know.

Don't judge a man by his quarter zip. It's a nice sweater. It's cashmere. Okay. Yeah.

The guy who says it's cashmere is not drinking like gutter whiskey. I'm expecting like a nice thing. I'm sorry to take it personally then, but I'll come on.

I love red wine. Let's do it. Let's do it. And, um, and the errors tour, check it out starting, uh, in February sales, uh, ticket sales are on right now at sammoral.com. Uh, there's a whole bunch of neat places in February. Uh, I used to do standup, so I'm happy to open up for you in Columbus, Ohio on April 10th. Are you going to be there? No, I am not. I'm a Michigan Wolverine, so I'd love to go there and just talk and burn a hole.

Oh boy. I did that. I did that at the Wiltern last time I was here. I just opened, I get on the God mic to bring out my opener and I just go, first of all, the Lakers suck and everyone's booing and I just, I like to start from a deficit. So if you want to start from a deficit, I should open for you in Columbus, Ohio.

Cause you would be basically halfway through the center of the earth. That's a good town though. Columbus is solid. It is, it is for Michigan people. It's a friendly place just a couple Saturdays ago.

And then two years before that, I was a rough state because you know, like it doesn't take much to be considered nice. Cause you're like, have you been to like Toledo? It's brutal. I've never been to, well, good. It's awful. Dayton, Ohio. Have you been, I mean, it's like meth country barbecue. Are you, are you, are you, is the errors tour coming through either of those places?

No, we're not. Cause that's a deficit. Yeah. But there is something about like, if you have like a meth problem, you do have good barbecue. Usually I had no idea there was such a correlation, Sam. The rib falls off the bone.

So you don't need good teeth. I don't know. Something like that. Yeah. We might be drunk podcasts. Check it out.

You've changed as well on prime video, which you can get through the Roku portal right now. And then sammoral.com for the errors tour, tour dates and tickets. Thanks for coming back. Thanks for having me any time, brother. That's Sam moral right here on the rich eyes and show. We'll be back in a moment on the program. When you think about businesses that are selling through the roof, like aloe or skins.

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Watch what Lala is talking about on YouTube or search for give them Lala wherever you listen. The playoff clinching scenario bills and chiefs have already clinched in the AFC division winners. Both the Houston Texans can clinch a playoff spot if they beat the Miami dolphins. And then the Colts lose at Denver. Then the AFC South is clinched and the Texans can join the chiefs and the bills with a home playoff game to start things off. Okay.

All right. The Pittsburgh Steelers can clench a playoff spot just by beating the Eagles. Or if the dolphins and Colts both lose.

Okay. So basically if the Texans clench the South, the Steelers are in, even if they lose to Philadelphia and the NFC Packers playoff clinching scenario is not going to happen. Not because I don't think they win. They can't win in Seattle or that the Falcons won't lose at the Raiders. They have to have the Rams and Niners tie to kick the week off. All right.

But it exists. The Vikings can clench a playoff spot just by beating the bears on Monday night. Or if the Rams lose on Thursday night to kick off the week, then the Vikings clench a playoff spot. If Seattle loses to green Bay, the Vikings are in. And then the Eagles can clench the East if they beat the Steelers and then the commanders come off there by and lose at new Orleans. So those are your playoff clinching scenarios. All right.

I like these. So I think everybody's wondering out there. Yo, yo, what's the scenario? Here we go. Yeah. You just quote in the tribe called questions made me very happy. I pay attention to things. Did you know it was called quest? What else would the tribe be called? It's not quest. That's my man right there.

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I love everybody. I've won nine in a row. Doesn't matter. Instead, he's like passing game. I was upset over three and out.

You know, my comment was my issue isn't that Hurts and him aren't getting along. It's just that he's let that cat out of the bag. Well, Michigan men think alike. So Brandon Graham went on the local radio and had his take. This is the OG of the Philadelphia Eagles, who is out for the season due to injury. This would BG the OG had to say.

The person that's complaining need to be accountable. And I'm just being honest, you know what I'm saying? Like, and he noticed he, you know, I don't know the whole story, but I know that one is trying and I mean, 11 could be a little better with how he responded to things. And they was friends before this.

He's like, man, but things have changed. And I understand that because life happens, but we got to, it's the business side that we have to make sure that we don't let the personal get in the way of the business. And that's where we got to do better as right now, because we know it's an issue. Everybody's seeing some, some things, but we need to be able to talk, talk things out as men, you know what I'm saying? And, but we need to let personal stuff go and let's get right for this game because man, it's like a lot of stuff.

Most of the time, it's just a conversation that just needs to be had, but the person with the problem got to want to talk to the person other than others. That's all I'm saying. Quite a revealing response from Brandon Graham that they used to be friends.

They're not anymore. They should be talking about it behind the scenes. And I think somebody went up to Brandon, maybe from a coaching staff for the team to say, Hey, you calling out AJ Brown for not keeping things in house is you also not keeping things in house. So he wound up speaking to Tim McManus who covers a team for ESPN saying what he said was a mistake. I assume that it was something that it wasn't. I want to win so bad that I just don't want to use the media when we need to talk about something and we can fix the problems ourselves. I didn't add to it in a good light. So that's my bad.

I just assumed it made me out to look even worse because I had it all wrong. And now people are going to run with that part. I really just want to win, man.

And I want brothers to be able to just hash it out. So there is something going on. There's something going on, especially Nick Sirianni today on 94 WIP and his weekly, he's got a weekly Tuesday chat said he didn't take AJ Brown's comments post-game, as if the relationship between the quarterback and wide receiver as in having issues. I didn't take it that way.

You can do anything and spin it in any way. I took it as we want to get better as a passing attack. AJ is part of the passing attack. And so we all want to be better at it. He called them both really outstanding people, really outstanding players.

He loves that our players want to get better and desire to get better. And that's what we talk about all the time. Later on, he goes by what he sees between the two, by the way, hurts his godfather to Brown's daughter. And then all I can do is judge things on what I see on a daily basis.

Sirianni said, when I see AJ and Jalen communicating about the game plan, eating lunch together every single day, praying with each other before the game, there's going to be speculation. And I get it rightfully so based on what's happened the last couple of days, but all you can do is judge what you see. And my eyes see. Boom. Here it comes. Well, what do my eyes see? I see the record. I see the Eagles taking on a team that of all the teams in the NFL could wreck this buffet even more.

Boom. If the passing game's not working and they come across state and, heaven forbid, end their nine game win streak, it'll just be more fodder until these guys play a playoff game, which they will. And they will do, and they will probably do it at home.

And they'll do it against maybe the commanders for a third time. Did the Niners slip through and get in there? Get in there?

Anybody from the sniffing it category making it in? You know, I think the Rams get in as a division champ, as you know. Right. Could it be Seattle coming across the way? That's what's happening here.

But all I know is this. Philadelphia kind of joining Boston in that category of you're never happy until you're most unhappy. Nine straight wins, and this is the conversation. What are we doing? Well, 10 and one last year, and then... Come on now.

It's a different season, I think. That'll wrap up this show. My World with Jeff Jarrett takes wrestling fans behind the scenes, along with King of the Mountain Conrad Thompson. I wanted to ask you about what you know, if anything, on the new WWE ID program, where they're apparently going to be working with some independent wrestlers. My encouragement to any independent wrestler out there, build your value, and then understand your value, and then you create your own leverage. There's no substitute for hard work and getting over it. My World with Jeff Jarrett, wherever you listen.

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