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And wanted to touch base real quick. I'm on the roll right now. I love being in the studio, but right now it's college basketball season. So I just got off the road and I did the Kansas at Creighton game. Now I have a game Saturday, an interstate rivalry game between Wisconsin and Marquette. And it got me thinking about the state of college basketball real quick.
I want to touch on it. It's different. I think with NIL and what's going on, it makes it a lot more challenging for coaches to coach in a couple of different reasons. One, because of the transfer portal, which I do embrace and I do endorse.
I think the young men and women should have an option to be able to pursue another opportunity if one is not working. Now, with all that being said, it's not because, oh, the coach is too hard on me or whatever. That's the part I don't like. Ask a Baker Mayfield, ask a Joe Burrow, ask some other quarterbacks who have transferred and they found success.
What's my quarterback at Philly? He also was able to leave and then Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts, to get out of a situation and get into a better situation. I'm all for that. Now maybe the two, three, four times transfer, that's a little tough because it stresses out the program because now coaches, and I saw this with UCLA, not really recruiting high school players anymore, unless you're a Cooper flag or a player like that that came out that's the number one recruit and a potential pro, of course you're going to recruit. But now coaches are saying, you know, I don't need the high school guy anymore. I need to go out to the transfer port or get me a seasoned player that can come and help my team win right away.
I want to get older and stay older. Well now you have continuity issues, teams, you know, with a lot of transfers don't actually make the fit right away so it takes a little bit more. Now you got to promise to pay NIL money. Not only that, with coaches, you got to re-recruit your own players. Now I'm all for guys getting paid, for females getting paid, get it. But it has to be some kind of balance and right now the way the structure, the infrastructure, the NIL and the transfer portal is set up is not a lot of regulations, no regulation. So what Alabama does compared to UCLA to Ohio State to Michigan is totally different depending on what they want to do. I think it's another two to three year period of all these things coming together within college sports so we can have all this data to say what works, what doesn't, and then from there kind of put some parameters in place that make it so that the young men and women benefit from their name, likeness, and image, but that also these universities are TV partners that are paying for the product itself and we're really talking about basketball and football, okay?
There's men and women's basketball and, you know, football that the product is secure because right now what's happening I think it's beginning to get a little watered down because of all of the uncertainty of what's happening, okay? And it's not a perfect scenario but I do think it's a solution but I don't think the solution is around the corner because at the beginning when NIL was set in it was all about name, likeness, and image, that a young man or woman could earn money based off of their who they are, their superstardom, their potential, but nobody saw coming that you would have a third party that would come into play where you actually raise money to be able to go out and recruit and pay players. That wasn't a part of the equation. That wasn't part of the thought process and now that's a whole different challenge. So the premise of NIL which I'm all for was name, likeness, and image, student-athletes able to earn money off of that.
Perfect. And I think when they instituted the NCAA that this was going to be available and not put parameters around it with regards to how much there's a cap you can earn, no. If you can go out and earn two, three, four million dollars you'll get it. But what they didn't see was the collective which is the collective is a third-party operation within the university that now actually raises money to go out and recruit and pay players and now you can say well player A over here if you come to this university I can guarantee you x amount of dollars based on the collective and what we can raise. Now one of the challenges is that the collective has a lot of power and what I mean by that is that if they from a basketball perspective you have a budget of two million dollars they can pretty much dictate or try to dictate to the university and to the coaches who should get paid and how much and when and how and how long and that develops a conflict as well. In particular when you're going through a coaching change because the collective has a lot of input insight into maybe who they want the coaches of the new coach to be because they're raising money. Now that collective also raises money via current donors maybe some new donors new sponsors so this whole thing has gotten so much bigger than what the initial thought process was of name likeness and image and I just believe you need another two to three years of collecting data to figure out what's right what's not working right and how to how do we put regulations around where the student athletes still can benefit off of this but now the product doesn't get affected as much because at the end of the day football and basketball men and women's basketball football is making the money. TV is paying for those three sports really football but then basketball comes after that so the product on the court has to be viable and to do that these things have to be put in place where now the players that are playing the coaches that are coaching they have some kind of continuity and you know it's it's a tough role right now for everyone involved but that's the state and what we're in and being in college basketball I've seen the changes over the years this is year 18 for me of covering college basketball and it's a lot different trust me than what it was five years ago compared to that so just wanted to drop that just because I'm in the midst of college basketball season but also in the midst of which I love right now on the NBA side is the emirates cup it kind of kind of just like before when it was the play-in tournament at the end of the year people were fighting against it because you know you always fight against change change is like oh we don't want to do that change is like uh we don't like that okay but in the end of the day it gave you more intrigue it allowed for teams that were in a 12th position but only a game and a half out to still be within shouting distance to be able to get to 10 and be in the play but it also caused the team that was in six that was a game and a half up to not be able to just rest for the last week and a half because if they lose some games now they drop to seventh and they're in the play so it gave you that kind of entry and I think that's what's happening right now with the emirates cup is that the end season tournament modeled off of soccer and European basketball gives you a little something different little spark in particular with basketball this year I know everybody's talking about the ratings were down or are down now this was in election year so a lot of that I believe played into it then you're always going up against college football and NFL a lot of intrigue in both of those things but what the emirates cup does it separates on Tuesdays and Thursdays the regular season from this little iteration of an in-season tournament okay by instituting the uniforms changing the court it designates something is different it does that I feel that when we have our games at home or when we went to Minnesota the Clippers it felt like a different game during the regular season and that's what the NBA wanted and I think players feel that as well as that when they go into these games at first they thought it was a gimmick but now it feels real feels real you're able to go and play in Vegas let me tell you about gimmicks back before the ABA and the NBA merged ABA needed gimmicks they needed the three-point shooting they NBA didn't like it they needed the slam dunk contest NBA didn't like it they they needed in-house entertainment cheerleaders musicians all kind of stuff going on in between time outs and at halftime guess who finally adopted the NBA so what you think is a gimmick sometimes it's just resistant to change but that resistance holds you back I applaud the NBA for trying to be a little bit different and fight the stigma of staying the same because you can't so I want you to you can so I look forward to see what's happening now that things are shaped out we're a day beyond the last games of the Emory Cup but to see how things shake out so I can't wait I think it just bleeds right into the season which has been up to this point a little uncertain because of number of injuries to key players hopefully the health starts to turn around we can see those individuals we all want to see the stars play get back on board so the NBA can really pick up and you know we're getting close to Christmas time and that's our time when we're national tv in front of everybody knowing NFL has a prime time game on that Thursday but it's all about NBA then so hopefully our stars will be back in place and we can pick up the season where we thought it would be you know with the stars in there playing and 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or visit us at OReillyAuto.com that's OReillyAuto.com E-I-S-E-N O-O-O-Reilly Auto Parts as promised my really good friend and actually hungry individual sitting here eating and drinking in his office in Miami which he's never at but my good friend great friend Alonzo Moore all right before we get into it you were walking me through some of the memorabilia that you got up there I mean just the collectible items you had one with uh Bill Russell Muhammad Ali signed gloves yeah yeah yeah the boxing gloves signed by one of my treasure pictures of me and Bill Russell on the golf course uh is that big john up top uh is that john thompson up top uh yeah yeah and this is also another picture of me and bill him handing me the uh defensive player of the year trophy you know what year was that uh I think that was 99 2000 okay yeah and uh so when you look at that when you look at that stuff and you kind of look at it now like at back at the time getting those pictures it was like okay getting stuff but as you're further away from the career and doing different things and you now look at it does it take on a different connotation a different meaning now that you're you know 54 and it's a different time in your life yeah yeah as we get older you know I'm gonna tell you the truth man that we uh we reach a point where we start valuing those those moments that we take for granted for all those years you know those relationships you know those those experiences all those things you know and then and you know to look around you know i mean and i got another couple other pieces on the wall to hear man that you know i'll take them off the wall you know but a couple other people you know this you know ebony magazine cover of you know president obama he personally signs it to alonzo thanks for the friendship and i mean that's one of my treasures and then also this is pretty unique here is a uh a new york times crossword puzzle that that bill clinton filled out and my name was in the crossword puzzle so what he did was if you look closely this is his right there yeah that's his stationary he wrote me a personal note and many of y'all don't know but bill bill clinton went to georgetown law school and uh president clinton man sent me a personal note said hey i thought you might like this dropped it in the mail this was folded up in an envelope and uh he sent it to me man so i took it and i framed it wow yeah bill clinton yeah it's pretty cool yeah so you know when when you think about the relationships and your moment your life you know and you know i uh reached a certain point now in my life where i just i don't take those things for granted man i really don't you know it's truly a blessing uh if god forbid you know you know my life ends the day you know i i lived an incredible incredible life you know and had a chance to travel the world and develop some amazing relationships you know and i'm very grateful and thankful for those moments you know and i try to uh every morning man just get up and just show gratitude i really do uh more than i have ever before because um you know last this last year you know this year the year it's almost over with you know 2024 but it was a rough year for me you know i lost a couple of dear friends of mine um you know i was diagnosed with you know prostate cancer stage stage three prostate cancer so i caught it i mean you know i ended up getting a bacterial infection man it almost cost me you know losing you know my transplanted kidney you know so it's just a lot of things happened this year and uh i'm still here by the grace of god you know so i just every morning i wake up i meditate for about 10 15 minutes you know and i show gratitude as much as i can for you know god getting me to this particular point in my life you know it's ironic so we talk a lot about when we take our trips when we're sitting around talking about having some cigars about life and how basketball has gotten us to this point we never would have thought about this back in high school college or even starting our career about the doors in which the game open and the people that we met via the game so as you reflect back on your career and i know the defensive player of the year hall of fame you know the nba championship in 2006 but the bigger picture it seems like to me is that the game allowed you to grow and mature meet travel and experience things that you probably would not have in that magnitude if the game wasn't there oh yeah you know big the game the game of basketball uh set an amazing stage for my life as it is today you know uh the game of basketball not only allowed me to travel the world but it allowed me to take care of my family you know financially you know across the board mother father to you know show my appreciation for them you know financially and support them and show them a better life uh the people that the people that i love those that made a significant investment in my life you know because i'm a strong believer that life is about relationships and knowing that in those relationships you know we're all here because of other people's contributions and um i'm a product of that i truly am you know grew up in foster care you know a transplant recipient from a from a family member uh you know so i my college coach you know was one of my you know most instrumental teachers uh my high school coach was a father figure to me i mean the list goes on man it's just the investments that were made in my life you know so i think about how basketball has impacted my life from that perspective you know so you know now i've reached a point now in my life where i'm like jesus christ you know this has been a um this has been a uh pretty much part of my life's work is just paying it forward because all those people that made those contributions through the game of basketball and through this life that i've had through this journey that i've taken i think about all those contributions that have made i'd be doing you know them a disservice if i did not pay it forward you know so that's why you know my foundation has grown to the point that it has you know over the past you know 20 25 years yeah five years man we've been doing the work that we've been doing now community providing educational opportunities and enrichment services and holistic services wraparound services and health and wellness you know initiatives all of these things you know uh tied around lifting up impoverished families and in and very challenged areas especially here in south florida well but that that just goes to why you know now you're on your second building of the old town youth center because you outgrew the first one but it seems like that all of that you've been doing is all of that you just talked about presented the opportunity but also made you look at the bigger picture and why oyc is such a big dynamic and a little bit about oyc the community health center and people that understand where the overtown community once was for black individuals back in the 30s 40s 50s who couldn't travel and stay in miami they had to stay in overtown a lot of entertainers actors had to stay there because you know the segregation so it's an older black community you went in there it used to be called colored town that's right yeah it was the history of this particular area in downtown miami and it was the only place that you know the likes of count basey ella fitzjuro all these entertainers mohammed ali you know who worked out on the fifth street gym used to drive across the causeway you know from downtown you know to the fifth street gym in miami beach and then you had uh you know all these black pioneers and jazz artists entertainers that performed at the fountain blue back then and um they were given a card that allowed them to cross the bridge but they couldn't stay there after they performed they had to come back over the bridge man so that was doing segregation so the overtown has so much history you know and unfortunately you know the riots kind of brought it down crime and drugs and things of that nature you know and now it's gone through a huge revitalization you know which the uh you know the elected officials are trying to preserve the history history you know they're trying to preserve the history of overtown you know and they're doing a contrimentous job and ironically we're talking today at this moment about it you know i uh trying to do my best to preserve the history and provide housing for the for the neighbor the natives in south florida because i mean people that are born here people are born in these inner city areas man that being gentrified slowly being gentrified you know what i've been trying to do is i've been trying to develop affordable housing and today we broke ground on the second affordable housing project project in overtown uh through me and my partners with our housing trust group uh and i formed my own company am affordable housing and together we've developed it throughout the state of florida over 10 affordable housing projects so this is going to be 120 units and uh one two and three bedroom you know uh and it's been you know it's been a blessing because i understand the need you know not just here in south florida but across the country you know thinking about the um the shortage of affordable housing across the country from the standpoint of seven million right here in south florida you know it's a shortage of 90 000 affordable houses you know and we're trying to put a dent in those statistics you know the first one that i built was 84 units we had 3000 applicants for 84 units it was unbelievable unbelievable you know so we uh what we've done here we created an incredible model that's been recognized by hood as one of the top development affordable housing development companies in the country and we're very grateful because of the quality of work that we do respectively i have friends of mine visit those some of the projects we've done it they can't believe how high in it is you know you know but listen people deserve the best you know and um my name and my reputation is all on all the lines it pertains to these developments you know so i want people to be safe i want people to age with dignity and i want people to grow their families you know in a safe and clean and and uh high-end environment they deserve it they truly do you know yeah and you know one of the challenges too with the with the affordable housing thing i think that because it's such a need but also you need medium and market rate income i mean housing to have income to be able to spend money because one of the biggest detriments i think to the black community was desegregation and i say that because during the time of segregation if you look at the laundry mats if you look at the doctors and lawyers the pharmacies uh all of the ancillary businesses because blacks lived there the dollar circulated 10 11 12 20 times in the community so those ancillary uh support mechanisms had income okay and you had housing you had black people making money that could contribute once segregation happened too a lot of that money left the community and as a result the parks and rec you don't have the tax base anymore the retail around it began to suffer so as we build back to central city it's not only with the affordable housing getting people in there you got to figure out ways with these construction costs to get market rate housing in there people that have income so now they can support all those ancillary businesses that need to be back in there so that's why i say what you're doing because you're so connected close to downtown with oyc and everything over there that it feels right in there and what i found talking to you too though is that you had a passion for helping kids but it was if i don't help the families too the families the support mechanisms then you got to do both you just can't separate one or the other right no you're totally right man at-risk kids go home to average situations you know so what we've done through this this model of ours you know and first of all for those of you all listening uh 25 years uh producing events fundraising events you know to support educational initiatives and provide support to children and families baby yes oh some good 16 years over the years outside of all of that you know we created some momentum behind the work that we were doing um in our statistics and identifying these obstacles in these children's lives breaking down those barriers you know inspiring empowering enriching and exposing these children and families you know and getting them across the finish line um walking through the doors of a school uh breaking down the challenges of just attendance getting them to the school to walk across the stage with a diploma in their hand you know so we graduate in our program we graduate 100 our kids from high school 90 of our kids go to college and graduate they start in our program at age five uh and we follow them through direct services all the way to age 25 so we've over the years now we've had kids that have started my program at age five they have graduated from college and now they're working for us they're part of our staff you know they might be one of our coordinators you know one of our uh front office managers as well you know or they could be actually a teacher in the some of our uh kids that have graduated they've come back and they're actually teachers in the building that we have in the building that we have we got a 56,000 square foot facility in there in the city it started as an 18,000 square foot facility and we tripled the size because like you said earlier we grew out of it you know so it's a nine million dollar budget a year uh to sustain the work we're doing uh all the services that we provide all the wraparound services with the charter schools that we have in here you know as well as the 14 peter schools all of the services that we provide whether it be health and wellness and um in school after school mentoring uh homework tutorial you name it you know sports the arts dance studio music studio stem lab i mean you name it all of these things that we have in there the community doesn't pay one dime you know so we go out and raise all the money to sustain that work you know but getting back to your point about you know you know having you know the the funding coming to the community you know now you know we have identified tax dollars subsidies you know which has allowed us you know to try to preserve some of what you were talking about you know the businesses as well as you know putting affordable housing there you know so that the the folks from that community won't be forced out because of the property costs and what have you um i think the actual center itself had become a hub where people are go able to go there for all family resources free of charge you know so that helps as well that helps uh provide support to the family as well in in these inner cities when you think about this model i i i i envision jewish community centers across the country and there's over 350 jewish communities across the country and i and i say to myself i'm like wow you know we don't have a place for people of color to go and find refuge and get resources what have you you know and the jccs are open to people of all races and the same thing with my center this open to people of all races you know but predominantly we're predominantly in a community of color and uh we've been fortunate enough you know to change a lot of the statistics that when i first came to the community and we built that center uh you know two out of 12 graduated from high school you know now that statistic has changed tremendously and i like to thank a lot of us due to our help you know so throughout all of our corporate partnerships partnerships with miami-dade county public schools and all that which allows us to do the work we do in the school after school and in the summertime there is a consistent positive voice of influence in these kids lives which has allowed us to get the positive statistics that we have as an organization so i'm very grateful that basketball has kind of created all of that it truly has created all that it's just given me an opportunity to be a philanthropic leader in the community it's given me an opportunity to be a businessman in the community you know by understanding the ins and outs of development and what have you and tapping into government subsidies as well you know to kind of help me build these communities up and kind of preserve the history of a lot of these communities instead of them being just totally taken over and gentrified well i love it man because i'm going to put a button on that too because of what you're doing and it's steadily growing because that can be used as a template and a model to kind of duplicate in other central cities all the time because the private public relationship is there and that model can be whether depending on size wise of that community it could be expanded it could be shrunk but the the essence of the programming that you have to your point to your point you know first most you know i'm very grateful for the program that i adopted and replicated the model years ago you know back in 2022 you know i met this gentleman by the name of tony hopson in portland oregon sei was an organization and i was referred to them by nike some nike executives because i was a nike athlete back then you know i didn't know anything about running after school program so i was introduced to tony i flew him and his staff out from portland oregon they helped me implement that culture in the overtown youth center and then the rest was history history we just grew from there and you know it was about identifying the right who this whole process that's what it was all about you know but i'm gonna tell you you know to your point this being a template we've already shown that we can replicate this model because we already did it from the other side of the country what i need is seed you know i need a uh an amazon you know i need a microsoft you know i need them coming in and to give me seed so i can drop these and so many strategically put these across the country in a lot of different inner cities you know which needs to help in chicago and springfield missouri i mean the list goes on you know if you know if we can really strategically you know um you know provide these type of services in the inner cities because there's such a grave need across the country even across south florida where people call us and asking us hey when are we coming to your community but you know it's hard i wish i could clone myself man i really do man because the need is tremendous you know and i i wish i just had seed money or i had it's those type dollars you know and i could just start replicating these across the country because of the need now i'm with you man because i know in calito ohio we're working on some things and and this is very critical because of the youth there education wise because the central city has been decimated from an educational perspective a health perspective we're partnering with the health organization to do some good things in the neighborhood but man you you keep doing what you're doing you touch on the wellness part of it too and we were talking offline before you got on yeah what's the challenge with black men going to get tested what and you've been through from the kidney from the prostate and your advice would be to what be proactive truly be proactive with your health you know you think about people of color we lead in a lot of statistics heart disease diabetes uh kidney disease of african americans account for 35 of all kidney failure cases think about that there's over 37 million people who are dealing with chronic kidney disease in african americans account for 35 of kidney failure cases you know so you think about the millions and millions of people who suffer from chronic kidney and a lot of which if we went to the doctor on a regular basis you know we can kind of identify and stay on top of the things that we need to do in order to make the adjustments as it pertains to our diet and exercise and what have you uh and then you gotta think of diabetes and hypertension you know people that are pre-diabetic you know and instead of uh going about your life and not knowing that you're pre-diabetic and ignoring some of the signs and symptoms you know getting a once a year checkup you know getting a blood test you know get your men getting your psa checked you know uh after age of 45 45 50 years old uh i caught mines early i got my psa checked at 52 you know and you know if i would have gotten it checked at 49 or 50 they would have called it even earlier that i had you know prostate cancer so i was very fortunate enough that it did not spread and uh god knows you know things would have been dramatically different for me i would have had to take chemo and i would have had to take radiation or what have you you know but they were able to take it out you know which has altered my life and i'm still healing but you know the devastation of the cancer spreading uh was eliminated because i was proactive with my health and i went and saw the nephrologist and what have you and i just got a simple blood test then getting your cholesterol check you know things of that nature you know that uh that we as people of color color we eat a lot of fire fried foods a lot of foods with a lot of dairy and we eat a lot of inflammatory foods you know which causes what we weakens our immune system and causes mucus all of that stuff you know so if you're doing it every day for the rest of your life every day for the rest of your life if you're eating inflammatory foods you've eaten animal products every day on a regular basis eventually something's got to give your body's like oh oh you know and then you're not exercising you know you're not drinking enough water you know you're not you know not doing what you have to do to take care of your body you know so people of color unfortunately we have been victims of a lot of these statistics and it's important for us especially men of color it's important for us to kind of be a little bit more proactive and take better care of ourselves health-wise no i love it man so all the brothers that are tuning in it is take your health serious go get those checkups uh don't be afraid of the old saying of the doctor you don't trust yeah you but those numbers are going to tell you something more than anything else and it's better that you know sooner than later listen i want to dig real quick too but you know we've known each other more important jimmy i'm gonna tell you you know what men and i'm speaking directly to men several reasons why we don't go to the doctor we don't go to the doctor because of embarrassment you know uh we don't want to be transparent with the doctors while we're there so they can really give us the proper care that they need to give us you know so it's things that we don't want to talk to them about because we don't trust them as well especially if they don't look like us you know so it's important that we find a doctor that we can trust that we can be open with so they can give you the correct diagnosis and what have you you know outside of that man listen nobody can do it for you you have to be an active participant in your own health as men you know i'm tired of seeing you know friends of mine you know you know dealing with these health obstacles that you know that could have been preventing you know and i'm i'm speaking i'm really i'm speaking to you based on my own personal testimony okay because both of my particular situations were caught because i had a routine physical okay my kidney disease when i was playing we had to take pre-season physical they found out they had crises otherwise i would have ignored it okay second all right my prostate cancer i found out because i went to my my urologist for those that you um don't don't know what a urologist did you know it's a doctor that you know that it's a for for men that you know that you know that that treat that takes care of your prostate okay that'll tickle you a little bit yeah you don't have to worry about the finger anymore that's why that's why a lot of men didn't want to go in there and get it because they was worried about the finger yeah you want to do that anymore now but something going somewhere you know what i'm saying to test it it ain't the finger no more but it's exactly exactly yeah so yeah you know so listen i'm grateful that i'm here to share this message i truly am you know because you know the life is nothing if you don't have your health okay how big your car is how nice your house is how nice your clothes are none of that means 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back really really quick on a couple things past history basketball watch some of your greatest moments but 2006 when you guys won a championship and a lot of times we always talk about winning a championship and what does that mean but there are contexts to that right did it would it would it have meant more to win it let's say when you were in prime time position when there was a lounge of morning of 98 99 2000 miami more so than the stuff of that and i asked that question because people talk about that like yeah i was on the team and i and i contributed but it's not like it was before when i was kind of like option number one any difference between the two like if you would have wanted in 2002 okay being the lounge of warning compared to being a complimentary piece in 06 does it does it separate the championship of what the meaning is or how they feel no it doesn't because i was an active participant in helping us win that you know it's not like i was just sitting on the bench just cheering you know i was actually a part of it you know yeah and i was at a stage where my body and a physical obstacle you know that that affected the decline of some of my play but i knew that i could still make an impact you know and i had just come off of a kidney transplant 2003 we won in 2006 i had just come off a kidney transplant but you know through my will and through the grace of god you know i was able to you know get myself back in excellent basketball shape and come back and play again and contribute you know so i think i appreciated it more at the age of 36 then it would have then i would have if i was 28 just because everything that you've been through because of everything i went right you know of everything i went right yeah right you think of everything that i went through for sure i appreciated it so much more i was so so grateful man because you never know you're gonna win one until you win one until it happens now you can look great on paper at the beginning of the year it doesn't guarantee that you're gonna win you know but you never know that you're gonna win one until you're gonna win one you know we were winning yeah do you win it we were very fortunate we were very fortunate to win in 2006 because there were moments man especially in the finals we were down oh two we had to win four games in a row and be because of the heroics of the way you know and obviously we had a bunch of guys that contributed at the right time and gp and hitting that shot in game three you know it's just you know j-dub you know having an incredible finals for us you know moments in the game um you know ud being consistent with with uh with dirk and you know posey and antoine i mean the list goes on man the guys that were making plays for us time and time again you know and then game six you know i had a big game six you know i just know man blocking shots and rebounding and wreaking havoc you know put us back in back in so i want to go back to the 2006 championship you went from being an adversary of shakil o'neill 92 draft we all came out epic battles to now being teammates and ultimately winning the championship right how was that relationship how was that dinette i mean we developed this brotherly type of relationship man we complemented each other tremendously you know very um grateful for that you know i've always said you know i'm a strong believer that you know we we plan our calendar every day you know but god guides our steps you know and after coming into 92 you know being adversaries and really you know having wars with each other over throughout our career and then finally coming together and being teammates and complementing each other you know during that 2006 run you know it was pretty special it really was and then more importantly what put the icing on the cake for me man was you know you know him inviting me to bring him into the hall to sit on stage and bring him into the hall you know you know so that was that was an incredible compliment you know and a statement to me you know of how what he thought of me you know how much he appreciated me and the feeling is mutual it truly is because he he truly brought out the best of me he really did yeah he brought out the best of me and i think we motivated each other over the years uh the the funny part back in the career when you see this picture when you see the picture of jeff bangundy holding on your leg what do you think was the first thing that come to mind and i'm with jeff right now uh you know with the with the clippers right now but you know every year this picture comes up when you first see what do you think and jeff is on your leg war you know i mean it was obviously obviously comical at that moment i didn't even feel him down there i didn't feel him down there he was like a piece of gum on my shoe you know because i was i was i was trying to get at larry i was trying to get at him you know so uh you know hey man i blame pat riley for that why because he created two monsters man he did man he he left new york he had already planted the seed of you know the intensity level and the fierce defensive approach to the game he had already planted that seed in in that team in that organization so and then he then he left there and then he planted he did the same thing in in miami you know so these were two frankensteins that's what it was it was two frankenstein that we were just going at each other every time we played that's why the games were so close that's why the games are so fierce that's why we knew each other's place because everybody we were already yeah yeah we all knew what we were going to do and let me tell you what some of these games just came down to the fourth quarter and it was just fierce fierce battles i don't think there'll ever be any more intense robberies like that again because of the way the game is being played right now the games isn't played the way we played it back then you know so we're not going to have any of those type of fierce rivals like that that was entertainment at its best it really was it was wwe wwf and you know but you know the game has to evolve and it has to change but you know and the last one i want to hit on this too was all the memories you had you know defensive player of the years you had the all-stars you had the championship outside of that is it from a basketball perspective what's the biggest take from you out of it not the individual awards right uh you know what my growth happened during the during the playoffs you know because the we we raised the ante during the playoffs because that's when you got more out of your guys the intensity excuse me the intensity level changed you got more out of your guys you know so there was more of an expectation of you to produce in the playoffs it was just an heightened level of intensity and expectation so my growth happened when the challenge was increased that's when my growth happened as a player you know so i missed that i missed that challenge you know and that's why we find we found golf as a way to supplement that because it's a tremendous challenge you know it's you against you you know it's without the physical punishment but it's just a mental punishment it really is you know it's you against you okay and one more thing before we i would be remiss if i didn't ask you this from a from a former player to a father who had a son that played and actually played at georgetown you see what's happening with lebron and brawny not to say that the two are parallel but the expectation level from yeah i mean it's it's a lot of pressure again it's a little bit different because of the the bronze still playing with brawny you know it's a hell of a spot it's a hell of a spotlight on a young fella man it really is and how he handled it but how how brawny handles it is tremendous with all of the stuff that comes with it he's still an outstanding young man to deal with all the hate the vitriol that comes with that listen you know it he his family between his wife and his wife's you know lebron's wife you know is an amazing mother she's an amazing mother i had a chance to spend some time with the family when they were here for four years and the brawn is i mean he's a stand-up gentleman and you know he's a great father as well you know so you know brawny has been taught well you know so he's a good kid you know uh unfortunately he has to receive this type of pressure you know and it's unfortunate he has to receive this type of pressure you know and i hate i hate to see that him go through that you know i i just at that point you know you really want you want to want the kid to enjoy himself you know and i you know and i hope that's what he's doing i really do hope he's enjoying the game you know i hope it's just not the pressure isn't weighing on him and it's great that he has his father there to kind of help balance it and balance that out you know but i wish him nothing but the best i do i want to see him do well yeah we all handle to handle that and it and it's made tremendous history man i mean come on man who was it the only other father was ken drippy jr yeah yeah i think it might have been done in hockey too father and son get a look at that i think it might have been done in hockey but for basketball perspective you had father's son but not playing at the same time i think it's great for the game i do i think it's amazing for the game i really do yeah well good man hey listen man i'm not gonna take up too much for your time i had to get you on to talk about in particular the basketball was great but at the health side and what you're doing in o-y-c you got the golf tournament coming up with july i mean january the 25th 27th 27th okay it's my 25th year 25 years man we old bro yeah who you telling me well well good man hey listen enjoy it i appreciate you coming on man and blessed i'm gonna keep doing what you're doing in miami yeah man my pleasure brother thank you man god bless you got it your favorite segment right here off the court don't be really quick don't be resistant to change that's the problem i don't care what it is we get stuck into loving what we love how we love it when we love it it's just like music as people what's your favorite genre era of music and a lot of times they dig back into their childhood that same thing about sports well you're back in the 80s and 90s the mba of football was this and i say well it's nostalgic because that was your time when you were younger that it had an impact on your life you can you have memories based around games music or whatever it may be and you want to keep those times close to you but life is about growth you got to be open to it not all things are great but all things do need to change and you need to sometimes change your perspective on what's going on in order to be able to continue to survive but also to continue to grow i know change is hard but it's in front of us and don't be resistant so much without actually doing your homework on what you're being asked to change immediately immediately a lot of people's like no i don't want to do that i don't want to do that um it's not the way we used to do it well if we stay stuck the way we used to do things a lot of stuff here in america still be the same now we don't want that so that says for me ending this year that if you take a positive thing out of moving into 2025 is that you open up and be less resistant to change and be more open to understanding that the world is going to evolve and move on now whether you want to or not is going to happen thanks for tuning in peace out let's talk sleep number people it's the official sleep and wellness partner of the national football league so if you get good sleep you play well eighty percent of kansas city chief players have a sleep number smart bed ninety percent of vikings players have a sleep number smart bed sleep number smart bed so do i my sleep 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