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Guest host Mike Hill weighs in on the state of boxing and what Jake Paul’s popularity means for the sport’s future, and reacts to LeBron James’ decision to take a break from social media.  

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Get to it. The Rich Eisen Show with guest host Mike Hill. Earlier on the show, Steelers writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Ray Fittipaldo, NFL Network insider Tom Felicero. Coming up, host of the Jim Jackson Show podcast, Jim Jackson. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Mike Hill. Looking forward to my man, my mellow, Jimmy Jackson coming in and talking about the NBA, talking about that mess that's going on in Philadelphia as well. Hit him on his Clippers as well, turn things around.

The Warriors, surprised to see him out there. I'm getting some NBA action. Before we get things going in hour number three, before I leave, I just want to let Mike Tyson know I was just playing. I'm just joking around Mike, you know, it's a form of entertainment, man.

We already tweeted your clips out. No man, just in case Mike, bruh, I know I'm mad respect for you, man. You know, entertainment purposes. You know, we just playing, dawg. Just playing, man. Please, Mike.

Please. I got a family. I got kids that love me.

You should have thought about all that. Hey, man. Tom, the YouTuber. What's the boy's name? Can't think of his name right now.

Why am I drawing a blank? What's he do? The one he just fought. Oh, Jake Paul.

Jake Paul. If he wants to be taken seriously, though, as a boxer, he's got to fight somebody that's actually a boxer. Yeah. Right.

That's still not necessarily, he got to be in his prime, but he's got to be still active and maybe ranked if he wants to be taken seriously as a boxer, which he says he wants to be taken seriously. Do you care, Chris? Do you care, Jason? Do you care if you're getting the amount of money that this guy is generating? He's kind of created his own little niche.

I don't know that he cares to be thought of as a robot. Here's the thing, TJ. Now, he's a great businessman. He's getting paid. He's offering people tens of millions of dollars. If he's got that much money to give out, what's he bringing in?

No, no, I get it. He's a great, a brilliant businessman, but he's also saying he wants to be considered a legitimate boxer. You can't, you're a showman. It's like you do the WWE, right? You know it's a showman. It's not fate, but it's scripted, right? You already know the outcome, pretty much.

With Jake Paul, you kind of know, okay, I can pick and choose, matchmaker and all that. It's a circus, more so than a legitimate boxing match. Well, the only actual boxer he's fought beat him soundly. Fury. So I don't think that that's what he's really interested in.

And then he goes out there and he's calling out Canelo Alvarez. Like, what are you trying to do, bro? Yeah.

That's a death question right there. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. But that's what I'm saying.

But don't pretend that you just be what you are. You know, people love to hate you pretty much. But he's kind of the biggest thing in boxing right now. And that's a shame. Sadly.

That's a shame. As a guy who loves the sport of boxing, boxing used to be an event. Boxing used to be an attraction. Now, boxing is a circus. When the biggest event in boxing is a YouTuber fighting the 58 year old former champion who's 60 years old. When that's the biggest boxing event of the year, that lets you know the state of boxing. That lets you know why UFC is taking over when it comes to combat sports.

Because there is no draw. There's no Muhammad Ali. There's no Mike Tyson in his prime.

There's no Floyd Mayweather. You know, you got guys like Tank. That's Canelo and Tank. Tank, Canelo. But they're not household names. You got Haney.

You got my man Bud Crawford. You got guys who are great boxers, but you don't have the household name that crosses over the Sugar Ray Leonard's of the world. Canelo's not a crossover?

No, he's not a crossover. Canelo could walk down the street in LA and I don't believe that. 90% of the people would not know who he is. I guarantee you here in Los Angeles.

Well, among the end of the Mexican community would know him, obviously. I'm saying there's a lot of boxing fans out there. If you're a boxing fan, you love the state of boxing.

Don't get me wrong. I'm talking about boxing used to be an event. The fight. It wasn't just a boxing match. It was, you're going to get the fight.

If somebody says you're going to get the fight, you knew exactly what you were talking about because you had stars in the sport of boxing that crossed over that people wanted to go. You had your house parties. You had your, your, your, your, your, your people over to watch the pay-per-view, to watch the undercard. It was a party.

It was an event. You don't do that now. We did that for Mike Tyson and Jake Paul on Netflix. People do it for UFC now. They do it for UFC now. When John Jones fights, when Conor McGregor fights, you still get, but see, they got names still that crosses over into households that people who are non-sports or non-boxing or non-combat sports fans recognize, or people are talking about so much that they're like, I got to see this guy.

They don't have that right now. The best fight that night, the other night was the, the woman's match. You know, it exposed us to that.

Yeah, absolutely. She was robbed. I told you that that night, two people were robbed. You know, uh, the, the lady who, I can't think of a name right now. She, she lost the match. She was wrong. And I was robbed in my time.

I was robbed in my time, you know, even though it was free, that's it. And we have fury you sec two coming up in a month, but once again, nobody knows that, you know, like it used to be, I would think the closest fighter, um, used to be, uh, the bronze bomber where you will see the bronze bomber and, you know, he's been losing lately and he probably needs to retire. He's not the best boxer in the world. Deontay Wilder, you know, he, I'd like to watch him fight Jake Paul, to be honest. That would be pretty good. No, it wouldn't. That would be, why not? I just want, I want to see it. I mean, why not?

Why not? I want to see Jake Paul get his, to be honest. I want to see while they're not going to knock his out. Can I tell you, that's the reason why most people, a lot of people watch Floyd fights. Yeah. We talked about it earlier.

Yeah. You watch Floyd's fights to see because half of them disliked them. They wanted to see, that's why a lot of people back in the day, as much as Muhammad Ali is revered today, people have revisionist history because when Ali was in his prime, half the people hated Ali. Half of the people hated Ali because of a lot of things he stood for, changed his name, didn't fight in the Olympics. They call him a draft dodger, all that type of stuff like that. He was a black man who believed in himself and all that type of stuff like that.

We was in that time, still in that time now, but I'm saying it's different. So they hated him. So it was almost like you got to be a heel, but also polarizing in a sense. You get somebody that's polarizing, somebody that, you know, half the audience wants to see you get beat. And that's why Jake Paul's good because Jake Paul is not liked. Jake Paul is not liked. Jake Paul's got a lot of followers and a lot of people that like him. Well, he's not liked by people of our age. He's not liked by people of our age. He's not, but he's a brilliant businessman. And I respect what he's built. I respect what he's built. But once again, if you're saying you want to be a legitimate boxer, fight somebody legit.

Yeah. Fight legit boxers. Fight legit boxers.

But if you want to just make money, go ahead and make money. I'll watch. I mean, if it's something, you know, like I said, if he fights Deontay Wilder, well, I'll watch. I'll sit there and watch Netflix freeze again.

You know, that'll work buffering buffering. Another polarizing figure, LeBron James, very polarizing figure. You love LeBron James. You dislike LeBron James, but I respect and I like LeBron James. I know what he's built. I have nothing against LeBron James.

You know, he's never done anything wrong to me. I just, I like what he and his crew, Maverick and all those guys do off the basketball court, what he stands for. LeBron James just came out and said, he's taking a break from social media. Kevin Durant's agent came out and talking about, you know, what social media stands for these days. And LeBron basically co-signed and said, I'm out. And I think this is a good move for LeBron.

One, because a lot of the things that LeBron's reading right now is negative, even though it seems off to a really good start. This team should be talked about 10 and four in a season. They won, I believe six in a row.

They're undefeated at home. Rookie head coach. He's 40, about to be 40 years old, 22nd season in the league.

Still one of the top 10 players out there. And everything that he's possibly reading is, is about something negative. And a lot of it has to do with his kid.

So sometimes you got to shut the madness out, shut the madness off. If you were to go on somewhere or a site and 70% of what you read about yourself was negative, would you continue to read it? Would you continue to watch what you continue to subscribe to that? I'm asking, would you?

No. So why should he? And he's active on social media. I get that. And for all the athletes out there back in the day, remember athletes always say, well, I don't, I don't see it.

I don't read the paper. Come on, man. But you know what's being said about you. Same thing with LeBron. He's seeing the at's. He's seeing how people are coming at him and coming after Bronny or whatever.

And let me tell you something. You know, when LeBron actually started winning championships, you know, when LeBron James became the player to take that next step. You remember that year after they lost the championship to the Mavericks and when he was in Miami, his second year in Miami, the year he won a championship, what did he do? What did he start doing during the playoffs? Shut down social media.

Zero dark 30 or whatever you call it. He shut down social media and he got locked in and he got focused. It worked for him.

It worked for him. Man, I was on a reality show. So I got, it's one thing to get criticism or being talked about from sports perspective. You know, I get it on here now.

Somebody came out to me and I'll give the guy some love. Came out to me because I said that Peyton Manning was a shell himself with the Denver Broncos. Right. I mean, after his neck injury at the end, he was, I mean, I know he had a great season with the Broncos and led them to the Super Bowl and they lost Seattle. I get that, you know, he still had a great career.

I was talking about the neck, the last season when he won the Super Bowl, he was a shell himself and they come, they come and sometimes they misinterpret whatever. I can take that. Uh, I can take criticism when I'm wrong with a take. I can't, I can admit when I'm wrong. I don't like it when somebody comes at me sideways and you don't know me. I don't like, I, I try not to let it bother me, but when you see it, obviously as a human, you're going to react to a certain kind of way. You might not respond to them, but it's going to make you react a certain kind of way.

It's going to infuriate you. You can look at a hundred posts on here and 95 of them can be great. Oh, we love you. You do a great job filling in on rich blah, blah, blah.

You know, Fox, I love you. Oh, women coming at you. Oh, you're handsome and all that type of stuff like that. You're going to see five posts on there and five. I'm going to criticize you. Two of them going to come at you sideways and call you out of your name. And there are so many times on this social media, on X, on Instagram, whatever I'm on somebody just out of nowhere because of my opinion about something that is just like not even important. And they'll come out of here, you idiot and cursing me and like you this and you things that they would never say to you publicly things that they would never say to you in your face, but they got so much courage on this site that they feel like they can be faceless.

They can be nameless and they can say whatever they want to whenever they want to at you. And as human, as we, as strong as we, people think we are or robots or whatever, like LeBron is and athletes or whatever, you're still human at the end of the day. So sometimes you just got to shut it off. And once again, I always said that social media is the greatest invention ever made. It's also the worst invention ever made. The greatest invention ever made because obviously there are so many things that are being done and taken care of because there's an awareness awareness out there that wasn't out there before that's drawn people together.

And you see your light-minded and things are getting done and you're rallying and you're making change and progress in the country and things are getting better when it comes to equality, but it's also the worst because of all the hate that you see out there. We're also, you know, all of us in this room, we're part of the generation in an age where we remember the time before it all and what it was like before, you know, we were all, you know, connected to one another, you know, with our phones and our computers. We remember, we remember what it was like. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't bad back then as well.

I mean, there were bad times, right? But you, it was all face to face. It was face to face. If I, when I was at a local market before this, the internet before, you know, social media, no, I was at ESPN back then. Somebody had to send me a letter.

Sometimes you send a letter or an email, an email or whatever, something like that, or, but, or phone call. At least I heard a voice, at least, at least I heard a voice, but once again, man, and I say this and I, and I'm knocking on woods, I'm not asking for it to happen. I'm not asking for trouble, whatever, but I'll take care of it. I need to, you know, it, unless it's Mike Tyson.

Unless it's Mike Tyson. In all my years of doing this, and I've been doing this for over 30 years and I've been, I've had threats against me, threats against my family. I remember when I was in Nashville, Tennessee and Peyton did not win the Heisman trophy that year and Charles Woodson won the Heisman trophy in 1997. I worked for an ABC affiliate, which was affiliated with Disney, obviously, ABC and Disney. And because ESPN was on this campaign, apparently to get Charles Woodson the Heisman trophy, they blamed anything associated with ABC, including me. And I had nothing to do with ESPN at the time.

Nothing to do with it, but because fans don't know everything about television, they'll just link, oh, he's part of Disney. You're part of the problem. And you're covering Tennessee. I was in Nashville at the time.

So the Vols were like our home, you know, that was our home college football team, them and Vandy. And because he lost that night, I got 200 phone calls. I got so many death threats that night. I got people, I had to go look under my car. When I went outside to go with security, go look on my car. That's how bad it was, man. That was, but that was back then I was in 97. Now it's worse.

Now it's worse. Let me do a take on somebody that, you know, a fan base that's Lakers fan base. I could say 99 great things about the Lakers. I say one negative thing about the Lakers. They're coming.

They're coming. And I get it. You defend your team, but keep it respectable. Keep it civil. Hey man.

Hey, I disagree with your take, man, blah, blah, blah. But when you come in and you try and make it personal, cause I don't make things personal. I don't go after somebody and make it personal. But when you make it personal, you come after me like that.

What am I supposed to do? Okay. So that's you, Mike Hill, no disrespect to you on a very minor scale, but LeBron James. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Like, so it's, yeah. So we get, look, we talk, what you just said, we talk about all the time. These guys always say to me, why do you read the comments? How do you not, how can you truly not look at a comment in your face? But knowing that it's like that small of a percentage. Now you're talking about someone like LeBron who your every move is under scrutiny. Like, yeah. After a while, if you're not reading it, guess what?

Your wife's looking at it. When your kids looking at your best, your boys are looking at it going, yo, you see what they're saying? So yeah, that's my point. I'm on this level. LeBron is on a level a hundred times more to me and as much love as he gets, he gets just as much hate. And once again, after a while you, people say, man, just ignore it. Don't pay attention to it, block it out or whatever, man, it's just still human.

You are still human. And for what? Because the man wanted to play basketball with his son. That's his family. Hey, if he had that much power to be able to have a franchise draft his son, then so be it. The fact that we just talked about that the power source, we talked about Aaron Rogers with Woody Johnson. That's why I won't believe he got Robert Salah fired because Woody Johnson didn't think he was going to quarterback to even start gate week five. Yeah.

That article has me kind of rethinking my thoughts about that. You know what I mean? So if he couldn't even, if Woody Johnson didn't want him to start week five, how did he have enough power to weeks later go and say, I need you to get rid of Salah. No, he doesn't. LeBron James should be, should be applauded. The fact that we've never, despite if you think he's better than Jordan or Colby or whatever, whatnot, wherever you have on the list, he should be applauded because we haven't seen anything like this ever in NBA history. Where man, 22 years in the league, 22 years in the league with all the miles going to 10 NBA finals, still playing at a top 10 level. I mean, we saw Kareem playing to his forties. We saw other players playing to their foot. We saw Vince Carter playing to his forties and played 20 something years in the league, but you ain't never seen somebody play this consistently, this great for 20 straight seasons, 22 straight seasons.

Nobody. All time leading scorer. He's a a pass first player, all time leading scorer. So you got to give him the respect and love he deserves, man. And he's still got that power and deserves it, man.

So yeah, I don't blame him, man. Shut it off. Shut it off.

I tell my family to shut it off too. I feel worse for Bronny because Bronny didn't ask for any of this. So imagine what he gets.

I see some of the comments Bronny gets. Come on, man. And your kid can't even play.

And yo, sorry. Can't even play as a grown person. You worried about a 20 year old kid. Come on, man.

Stop. Jim Jackson has a son. We're going to talk to him about the NBA and see what's going on with his his life and stuff. What's going on?

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Shopify.com slash Westwood One. You're 6'7", correct? Is that what you are? Correct.

Okay. And you're from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Born and raised. So did you ever try football? Did anybody ever say throw you out there on the field as a tight end or something like that or rush the passer? Oh, yes.

Being from Tuscaloosa, you know, it was, you know, we seen football day in and day out. So as a child, yeah, you want to do what you see. And that was my goal and plans, you know, until I was in college and I had a daughter that was on the way that was born with spina bifida. So, you know, it's just like to say, like, for me, it's like, sometimes when you have plans, but God has other plans for you. And those plans that I had set for myself, he's seen it in another light, a different way. And I found one of my purpose, you know, at that point in time, my life coming up, um, having a child that was born with a disorder, you know, uh, it was very tough. It was difficult being that you young yourself and then you only pray for a healthy child.

And then when you don't get that, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta set responsibilities and do what you gotta do as a, as a human being in general. And as a father, you know, and, um, I love being a father, you know, if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be in boxing when, you know, I'll probably be, you know, in football or basketball or something like that, but having her, she changed my world completely. And, uh, and I'm forever grateful for it because I wouldn't be in this position.

I probably wouldn't even be here. Who knows where I'd be, you know, without my children, man, their blessings. Many people say, when you have kids and not playing that, you know, there's a mistake, but no child is a mistake, you know?

And, um, I just love it. The father, being a father is number one for me, you know, even my two-year-olds understand boxing. All my kids will be at the fight. And, uh, my two-year-olds say, I want to go see daddy boom-boom. All right, back on the Rich Eyes and Show radio network, sitting at the Rich Eyes and Show desk, furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. In the house, my man, my mellow. It's been a minute, man. It's been too long.

I just text you the other day. I know you're just talking about it. I was just like studio Fox. I'm like, uh, Jim Jackson house.

Y'all know his course on the Jim Jackson podcast. Uh, yeah. Just text him like, are you going to be in studio? That's when they told me that you weren't coming to the studio. He's going to do all the games. Yeah.

It gives me an opportunity though. I've been doing, we go back 2013 when you were doing the America's game day, right? Yeah. Pre-game. And then, um, when Fox got the contract for the big East started doing studio back then I was doing studio before for the big 10 network, which Fox owns 51%. But then once I started really getting into the NBA stuff, especially with the Clippers here, the games are just so much more vibrant. I love being in the studio, but I love being in the action. So it allows me some more days to be able to do more, um, LA clipper games. That's good, man. I miss you in the studio though, man. We always have a good time, man. We always have a good time, man. It's it's good. I miss it, man. But it was like I said, 18 years, man.

I wish that was still with the Clippers now. Cause I'd be on the road with you. And, um, that would be a lot of fun. You don't smoke cigars.

So two of America's most. That would be good for either of your careers. Jimmy Jack on the road. I'll take the cast off.

So good road trip, man. Uh, I know you love cigars. I know you love golf. Uh, and I know you love basketball. Yeah. If I told you you had to give up one of the three.

Ooh. Which one would you give up? Uh, if I had to give up one of the three, it'd be golf.

You'd give up golf. Really? I mean, now what can I from basketball from my perspective, like covering it, covering it. Yeah. Oh no. Yeah.

Yeah. Golf. Golf.

Golf is, I mean, I love it. I was a caddy when I was growing up. My father, cause I had a job my whole, all the way through high school and always through college too. My father made me work.

So Emory country club in Toledo, Ohio was like 20 minute bike ride from me right down door street. So I had a job. I worked as a caddy. My uncle who was deputy chief of police at the time, they had a crew black man who played golf.

He was like a seven handicap. They should try to get me to play. When I was young, I was like, man, anybody playing this, this, these four, you know, and this, you know, nobody hitting the golf ball. Cause I didn't see black people playing right.

Especially when I caddy, it just wasn't like that. But now that I look back at it, I was like, man, I wish I would have took up the sport when I was younger, but it was football and basketball. So I didn't know, but I basketball, I love covering.

I love being in the midst of it. The best part, the beneficial part, man, being in the 18 years, Mike, is that, I've seen a lot of the, the men playing today in college, right? I got a chance to cover my Draymond Green when he first came to Michigan state, had a chance to watch him grow, not only in college, but now that he's year 15, 16 in the, in the league, LeBron when he was in high school, all this stuff. So that part of it, it gives you that duality of watching them, trying to understand where they are and growing into a young man in college to now 15, 16 years later, full blown NBA career. And at the tail end of the NBA career, still valuable, still valuable doing things off the court as well. LeBron had a podcast. LeBron is big in media. Draymond's got a really good podcast himself doing great things too as well, man.

So, um, it makes us feel a little bit older. Oh my bro, bro. I mean, when I watch, when I'm, when I'm, when I see the, see the guys and we're doing Clipper games or when I was doing some TNT stuff and I hear like Eric Gordon, I covered him when he was at Indiana.

Right. And I hear dudes calling them OG, Jeff Green. I'm like, man, you OG man.

I'm triple OG there because I was covering you when you were in college. But to see them still kind of, their roles, you know how it is Mike. Their roles went from young brass trying to prove myself to who I want to be in the league to established player to now that veteran voice of reason in the locker room. To watch that whole transition because I've been through it, but to watch it unfold by people that I've covered is, is special. And that's why I love it.

That's why I love being at the games because those interactions you don't get by sitting in the studio, always having those good relationships. I mean, I feel chase Daniels. I covered him in high school. He now works at Fox. Yeah. His playing career is over. Now works at Fox. I saw him in the hallways. I covered you in high school. Yeah.

I'm like, she's a grown ass man. But that's good for us. That mean longevity, that we're still here.

We're still getting it done. And now you, how's Avi doing man? Xavi good.

Yeah, he good bro. He and everything. He, basketball, jiu jitsu, piano, done with swim, want to get him in some more. So, oh, he had a little chess lesson for the first time. Oh, wow. Six years old?

Six years old. But it was good because it was a, it was a, it's like a bookstore in Culver City and they, but they had a session where they would teach kids how to play chess. So a good friend of mine, Terrace Duckett, and his son were going and we tagged along. It was great, bro. That's awesome, man. You know, we've seen some high profile dads, obviously, and their sons interacting.

We're talking about Prime, Shador Sanders, LeBron and Brony. What's, what's the balance or the line for you between being a dad and making sure eventually they live their own life? You got a grown son, 31. So I've been there. It was always one for me being a father because my father, you know, I'm 54.

So my father, old school bus driver, you know, he was raised, you know, his grandfather had a speak, not a speak, he's like a pool hall where they ran numbers out of it. So my aunts and uncles, they all grew up in that environment. You snitching right now? Yeah, I'm snitching. There ain't nothing they can do.

Reciprocity is already over. But you know, but that statute of limitations. But my grandmother back in the day, she had, you know, a soulful spot back in the neighborhood. But my father was and I got to know this man.

This is this is what's interesting about the history of the family. My father was one that didn't say a lot. Like, I can't remember him really saying I loved you, but he showed it in different ways. And he was quiet. But when he spoke, he spoke as I when I was younger, I didn't understand it. Like why it was always you just got to do something that they know in between.

It wasn't an explanation. It wasn't the he fathered in the way that he was fathered. And then as I got older, I got a chance to understand why he did that, because he didn't know. That's how he got raised. You know, so his parenting allowed me to understand how I needed to raise my older son with more communication, showing affection, showing love, things like that.

But allowing my older son to communicate what he was thinking, because too many times as parents, especially when we're older and I was younger at the time, but we're older. We think we know everything. Right. And we tend to shut our kids down when they're talking, thinking they don't know. You don't know. But sometimes they do.

They do. And we can learn. So as a father now, my tendency is to listen a lot more than talk, unless it's something I got to really lay down the law on. I try to really allow my son to express his feelings and talk about whatever it is so he feels comfortable that he can always come to me without any hesitation, without thinking that he's going to be judged, that he whenever he has a problem.

And I know it won't be all the time because, you know, they go tend to seek somewhere else. But that's how I've learned over the years to become a better father by becoming a better listener and understand. You know how it is.

You got two girls, two girls. Man, I couldn't even make that man. When they taught me a lot. What they taught me a lot, man. They taught me how to be a man. I told people all the time, man, I didn't become a man until like seven years ago.

I thought I was being a man. They were at the time, like 16 and one, I was like 12, 13. Starting to date and stuff like that. And boy, yeah. And that's when I started seeing it. That's when I started when I started seeing a lot of things to talk about, you know, my past and I've been open about that. And then I started seeing how being raised by their moms and then me being a part of their lives, I'm seeing who they started liking. And I started looking at them like, how can I be mad at that little boy for doing the same thing? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And so I'm like, I had to change because I don't want to see my girls go through anything like that, man. So it made a big difference in my life. So kudos to you, man, for doing that, man.

I love it, bro. But it's good that Xavi can call a team meeting. Hey, we need to talk. Things ain't working out right now. Right.

That's a fine line between the two of my partner. It's consequences to what you want to do now. Keep that in mind now. Now we will give you the freedom to make some decisions and do not.

He's six years old. I'm speaking in the future. Right. I said, but when you make a decision, it's consequence. I told my older son, I said, listen, you know the difference between right or wrong, bro. So when you choose to make your decision, think about what my father approve of it. Now, if in your mind, this situation is so critical that you like, man, forget what my father talking about. OK, you go make it right now. You got to deal with whatever comes with it.

Don't be mad at me when it goes south. All right. You chose to make it.

Yeah. Your choices have consequences. Life is a series of choices, but your choices have consequences. That's why people always say I got a freedom to speak and say what I want to. But yeah, you can say what you want to.

But what you say or what you write, what you put down on on social media may have consequences of all. I was talking about the team meeting because I wanted to get into the Sixers. Oh, yeah. And the mess. I mean, it's team two and ten on the C two and twelve, two and twelve on the season.

And they got all kind of turmoils. I know injuries have been a big part of it with Paul George and and Maxie being out, of course, and B coming back from the knee injury from the Olympics and everything that's going on there. What do you see as the biggest issue?

And should they break this team up? Should they start the process? I think first you got to be careful because what's led out there in the media and I've been through this before.

OK. Doesn't mean it's necessarily all the way true, but there may be a thin line of truth in what's going on. Now, what and how the meeting went down and what Maxie said and how he said it. It's that is somebody's hearsay. That's what they said happened. Is it a fact that he had more of a conversation and said this and and B may have understood and now everybody's blowing it up? I just because I've been in a locker room, I've been in situations where people will report on something that happened. It did happen, but it didn't happen to the extent of what it was. So I'm always careful of that because I'm not there. But what I can say is it's been things that led up to maybe the conversation that are true in B.

And I'm gonna talk about this on my podcast a little bit later. The leadership aspect is not for everybody. Just because you're the best player doesn't mean you're the best leader. OK. And that is probably something that probably been permeating for a little while in the organization on that roster.

And maybe at that point, Maxie was like, look, I had enough. It's something I got to say about this, about being on time and tardy. That may have some truth to it.

But what's that say about in B? I understand sometimes leadership roles are for everybody. Just because you're a star player doesn't mean you're a leader. But the fact that you've been there that long, that you haven't won a championship, that you haven't lived up quite to expectations, even though you've won an MVP and you're showing up late and somebody is calling you out, a new star to your team is basically calling you out.

What's that say about the player? That again, I'm not in the locker room every day, but just based on the track record of Philly. They've allowed in B to kind of run the show since he got there. They've given him everything. Now, and not to say that he's, listen, first and foremost, from everything that I gather and people I talked to when Sam Cassell was there and everybody, he's a great young man.

OK, so let's let's put that on the table. But with that, too, was a level of immaturity that when he came into the league, he had. OK, and by giving him everything as as a young at a young age, I think now as a young, maybe not as mature young man, you take that for granted and you do things because you're able to get away with things that other players can. And that happens. I don't care in sports.

What what what is baseball, football, basketball? If you're a child prodigy in mathematics, whatever, you always going to get special treatment. So stop all with the everybody deserves to be treated the same. Stop it. Right.

I don't care what area of life is going to be somebody that because of their their talent or their skill set are going to get something special. And I think a lot of that is embedded in B because of the early process in which he was able to get away with stuff. And part of the maturity in the league is understanding that I can't be that same guy, get away with the same stuff. If I really, truly want to be the voice and people to follow me, I got to lead more by example than by my word. Yeah. But if you give that power to somebody is not mature, like you said, then it creates a monster.

And if you do create that monster, that monster better win. I mean, like you said, star players always, always get star treatment. LeBron gets star treatment no matter who.

Michael Jordan got star treatment. But once again, you got to they won. They won to the fact that and Mike, even though he got to start treatment and Kobe get to start treatment, there are examples on how to be a pro, not that they got everything right, because they got their own mistakes, too.

And in times, but. That's the beauty of that is that you can't get it all right. OK, and that you have self-accountability when things go south, you're not blaming this. This when Mike missed a shot or did something wrong was on him. When Kobe didn't do something right, he put it on himself. Embiid at times will will push the blame over here. Like, to be honest, as an athlete. And I just want to give the whole of your kids the credit.

What's the difference between the two? Embiid may be a little bit more skilled in what he can do. But Yoke is from a leadership perspective, understood that in order for me to be the best and my team to be the best, I got to lose weight and not only lose weight, come into better shape and keep it off.

All right. So since covid, because what he's look at what he's done, three MVPs, he's had a championship, you know, finals, all that kind of stuff, because he dedicated himself to say as a leader of this team, I can't talk about I got to be about Embiid hasn't done that. Reason why the injuries keep, I think, building up. He's never been, in my opinion, as a basketball player, he's never taken his offseason seriously enough to cut down the weight and take that pressure off his lower limb. That's why he has a lot of lower extremity injuries, top heavy. Being able to carry that weight is going to eventually add pressure on those knees, ankles, back, hips, everything.

And you have injuries. Can you stick around for one more second? I got you. Come on, man. I ain't going nowhere.

I know you got to go to the podcast. I ain't going nowhere. I'm sitting right over there. You walked ten steps to go to your set.

I didn't know if you had to go to makeup and get touched up. Nah, man. It's all natural. You know, delighting. We're going to talk more basketball and life. My man, Jim Jackson, right here on the Rich Ozzie Show. O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson bring their unique take on sports entertainment with no contest wrestling.

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It's an instrument used to punish. It was just finding those common items. When you see them, you automatically think back to me in that moment. So it's one of those things I wanted to just implement in my whole character, being the most dangerous man in A.W.

The No Contest Wrestling Podcast, part of the Rich Eisen Podcast Network, wherever you listen. Then I think we're at a crossroads here. Actually, we're not at a crossroads. Let me tell you why. Okay, sure. I'm not a lawyer, but I watch a lot of law shows. I got about 50 witnesses that say me hit my head on your set. Oh. So if you just give me this, I'll let bygone be bygone. So it's a liability issue for me that turns into an even worse liability issue.

I don't want to have to call it the Shaq Eisen Show. No, I know that. I know that. All you got to do is just give me this and I'll put it next to mine. This is beautiful. I'm doing the math in my head as to how much you'd be suing me for personal liability as to how much this trophy costs, which I've been told is around $22,000. Well, I'll be suing you for $23,000. You want to lift it? No, I don't want to touch it. Okay, you sure you don't want to touch that? Bad luck.

Bad luck for you? No, to touch the trophy when you don't earn it. I like that. My father used to always… Are you serious? He always used to… Because, you know, like when you're a kid, you get the trophy from the local trophy shop. Sure.

He'd be like, if you listen to me, guys, you get this, you want to touch it, don't touch it. It's bad luck. You got to earn it. Right.

That's why, like, you know how like in the NBA when you win the Eastern Conference or the Western Conference, they give you those little trophies? I never touched it. Never?

I never touched it and I never celebrated it. I remember Phil did that too, right? Yeah.

Like when you guys won the Western Conference Finals of one of the many times you did. Yeah. I never touched it. I never looked at it. I never celebrated it. This is beautiful, though. It's a beautiful trophy. Yeah.

I love the TV clips they show. That's great, man. Shaq is the best. We go back to high school, bro. You and Shaquille knew? Yeah, we came out… Yeah. We came out in 89 together.

It's funny, interested, that 89 class, Kenny Anderson was the best player in the class and that was number two in the nation. Mm-hmm. But you didn't hear about him because in Texas at that time, you couldn't participate in camps outside of the state. Oh, really? So you heard of Shaquille, but you never saw him.

Mm-hmm. So the first time we got a chance to see him was in Dapper Dan. It was an old high school All-Star game in Pittsburgh and that's when we saw him. Then we saw him in the McDonald's game and that was… it was over after that, bro. Lights out, man.

Lights out. People get how great that LSU squad was with Chris Jackson and Stanley Roberts. Oh, Stanley Roberts?

Man. Stanley Roberts was the beast on that team. It's funny because Stanley was a little bit more skilled than Shaq at the time. Mm-hmm.

Like move, post, move, jump, hook. Shaq was just… and Shaq was smaller. Mm-hmm. Stanley was still a big dude. Right. At that time, it was Chris, man. Chris Jackson was unbelievable. Yeah.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rahul, some of the people out there that don't know. So here's the 89 Parade All-American First team. Remember Parade back in the day?

Oh, yeah. Parade. So the Parade All-American First team for high school that year. Kenny Anderson, a guy named Aaron Bain.

Aaron Bain went to Villanova. Yep. Yep. Doug Edwards. Blue Edwards.

Miami. Darren Hancock. So Darren was from Georgia. He was a year younger than us.

He was a junior. Alan Houston. Yep. Yep.

Bobby Hurley. Yep. Jim. Yep. Ed O'Bannon.

Ed O'Bannon, younger. Shaq. Yep. And Dion Thomas.

Dion Thomas. Illinois. Mm-hmm.

From outside Chicago. Yep. Wow. Yeah, bro. What is the most exciting thing to do inside the NBA?

You know, you're the guy that's always just blowing up. Yeah. You know, he's been playing all over the place. TNT. Doing his thing. It's a great, Shaq.

Those guys is good to see inside the NBA stand on air too. I love that. Okay. So what happens to, so here's the thing. What happens to NBA countdown? Because if it's still doing some games, but not all the guys. Okay. So, but also what happened the best part of like, uh, inside the NBA with earning them is postgame. Yeah. So, but usually after an ESPN game, it goes right to. Sports center. or it goes to SVP and the their their meat of their is either at halftime real quick but really after the game when they're breaking down different games so how does that that's what i'm interested to see how does that work 40 minutes yeah how does that work post game espn is panama i don't know how it works but they got to allow them to but you gotta have the post game right man because that's when they get in the best of the jokes and maybe on those nights you don't go to svp or sports center till a little later i'd stay with i mean you gotta be no but you but on those nights if espn has the games on wednesdays and sundays or they have the abc special during the weekend that's just you know a couple days out the week you don't have i don't think about this jim people tune in to watch the post game show big time bro sometimes they don't watch the game no tune in to watch the post game show man uh once again bro you do an excellent job anything you do man let's let's talk more basketball though cavaliers surprise team of the year i don't know their 15 game winning streak the start of season got snapped by the boston celtics the other night but they just won again last night the 16 and one on the season are they legit contenders to you they are because they've been together i think what's happened this year and you know it's i was i was talking about this the other day about jb bigger seven this job he did there is it similar to what mark jackson did in golden state not that cleveland is going to be you know win four championships and six titles but he was there to help construct what we see today right and then on top here comes steve kurt with a different mindset a different philosophy a different way to play the team matured another year then boom so now you got kenny ackinson right who was at golden state who was with us at the clippers he comes in with a different mindset on how to utilize the tools in the toolbox a little differently not playing too big at the same time uh now they're taking off but they matured another year donovan mitchell got his contract so that thing is out the way darius garland is playing free of mind um so now everything evan mobley is at a different role so you see this big explosion so it's like you take and jb's doing a great job in detroit right now with that squad so i think it's a combination of a lot of things of why cleveland is where they're at yes they are a contender i don't think they have the wing depth to defend boston in the seven game series though right right okay the team that i think matches up better with boston ironically is the nicks because they can defend on the wing because that's where boston gets you they beat you but cleveland is interesting you know i'm from ohio so i'd love to see what they're doing but because philly's issues because of milwaukee's issues uh it opened the door for a team like cleveland and their schedule at the beginning of the year people talk about is a little soft but so what you got to play and beat the people when you win championships mike you know this you beat the people you're supposed to be right take care of your business they do and you you you you sneak those games sometimes that may be a little tougher and you win those right and they still get defended and they still can score lights out they're shooting three or shoot a lot of things but they're really balanced man the bench is playing well and they got 10 players averaging over 20 minutes of games like um warriors doing the same thing a lot of people are talking about the warriors warriors don't have a player even including steph curry that's averaging more than 30 minutes a game i mean they got they play a lot of people they were at the end of the year because cavalier is a surprise so far i think the lakers are surprised golden state's a surprise but at the end of the year which one of those three you think would be the biggest surprise when it's all said and done if golden state stays where they're at okay in the western conference because listen the western conference so deep you have five or six eight teams that were over 500 okay more right about 500 in the east you have two teams okay so for them to be able to leapfrog the denvers and minnesotas the phoenixes okay to be at the lakers to be where they're at says a lot that's record in the west you know now again it's an early and a small snippet of where we're going to be because you got injuries trades everything else and the rest of the season but it gives you a little entry we just played them we we were able clippers would beat them twice we beat them up there chase center and the other night but the thing that's more surprising yes they're playing 10 to 12 guys and then they skew back as the year goes on but look here's what surprise here's what i think they they lay the groundwork defensively they're not big trace jackson davis is six nine right but defensively is where they've really taken that next step in why they're so competitive steph is shooting the ball and and you know i think the anthony melton is helping a lot pajinsky is helping a lot comminga coming off the bench has a different role you know from that perspective but their defense is kind of like okc kind of like uh we played the golden state with their defense the other night it's orlando when you lay your hat on that you can offset when you're having bad shooting and that's a part of the warriors when they had that dynasty that did not get enough enough love but the defense the defense i mean people talked about obviously steph and clay and the shooting that they had a whatever man but they had a outside steph wasn't the greatest defender never been a great defender good team defender but their defense helped them win a lot of their championships you know and also too at that time they were a high turnover team okay but they got away with it because of that defense but what beat you with golden state is layups because you were so busy spread out defending the three-point line golden state got a lot of layers right okay now and and and steph and and clay were really good in the mid-range too so we got enamored with this and it's kind of very similar to still keep you spread out and they get layers but defensively they create opportunities with deflections and now they get steals and they get out and run okay all right man we got about two minutes to go before we shut things down but i got to talk about the jim jackson congratulations on that man i i've always told you i said bro i said you need to get even beyond basketball because you're just brilliant at what you do man how's the podcast going so far it's going good man it's gonna continue to expand and i want to love to get you on because sports is just a small snippet of kind of what i want to talk about you know we talk about this all the time life whether whether it's travel there's sports whether it's family whether it's economics whether it's history whatever it may be it's just so many things that are dynamic enough to talk about that kind of revolve around sports too right that i want to be able to touch on that you know i wanted to look at this back in 2016-17 and my agency at the time kind of dropped the ball on like when we were talking about it on really doing it before it kind of blew up and when i got into the space i'm like man it's a lot of podcasts i don't know and rich was like jim i think you have a really good opportunity to do something so i'm expanding i'm growing i love it gives me a platform i got a great guest d-nice is going to be on d-nice okay yeah uh-huh this week's show all right we go back to the 90s so we got a lot of stories yeah man i'm looking forward to that man check out the uh jim jackson podcast whatever podcast or soul man jim jackson jim jackson show jim jackson youtube you know apple spotify looking forward to it man appreciate you coming man always brother always jim jackson everybody make sure you check out the jim jackson show and this podcast everywhere where podcasts are found hey it's rich eisen here join me and my compadre chris brockman every monday on the overreaction monday podcast rich jamus has taken the brows to the playoffs dude why can't they win seven eight games to finish the year why not i'm not saying it's no why not but this is a definitive statement that's clearly an overreaction and it's perfect fodder for a show like this one i appreciate you coming out of the gate hot come react or overreact with us overreaction monday wherever you listen it's game over over man
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