Dan Quinn: Jayden Daniels Puts In The Work

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Yeah, well look, nobody expected us to really do anything this season. Earlier on the show, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. Coming up, Commander's Head Coach, Dan Quinn. Fox Sports College Football Analyst, Bruce Feldman. Host of Nothing Personal Podcast, David Sampson. And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's right.

My IC. Dan Quinn getting set to zoom into our program. Here it comes. Fox Sports about to join us in athletic. Let's talk a little bit of college football.

Let's do so. Oh yeah, yesterday, Rich, we were talking about Alabama, Georgia. It's next week. They both have byes this week. Oh, that's right. Byes.

Early by. That's right. Did I kept saying that was this week? Yeah, I think people were confused. Oh, that's great. I'm sure that was very... You know who was also probably confused by that?

Kalen DeBoer. He's like, well, we're off this week though. All right. At any rate, that's coming up next for him. And it's USC Michigan this weekend. Yeah. That's nuts.

That's a huge game. Unbelievable. It's great.

I mean, it's great. I wish... Your home dog.

Home dog. I know. I wish Michigan looked like... I wish they played us last year. Yeah, I was going to say. That's all I need to see is all my idiot USC friends around here talking to me about how... They have a thing to say to me. Oh my God, the whole fight on thing.

Home dogs. When they play here, it's going to be... Oh my gosh. And UCLA LSU, these matchups are so weird. They're big 10 matchups. They're big 10 matchups. It's kind of crazy.

It is kind of crazy. So that's how we're rolling here. Let's get right to him. He's the head coach of the Washington commanders coming off of his first win as such. Jayden Daniels' first win as a professional quarterback and getting set to take on our first guest. We just chatted with Joe Burrow earlier today. And he's getting set to take on the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football on many of these Westwood One stations.

You'll hear that. And of course, on the worldwide leader in sports. He's the head coach in D.C., the former D.C. of Dallas. The head coach of the Washington commanders, Dan Quinn, is here. How are you, coach?

Doing good, man. We are looking forward to our first time on Monday night here together. So yeah, we're ready to let it rip, man. So yeah, I was going to ask what you think that means Monday night under the lights here, coach? Yeah, I think for us, we want to make sure the process really stays the same.

So kick back everything one day just to kind of do all the preparation in the same fashion, the same way. As a new team, lots to still grow on, man. So as we're going, I expect our trajectory of improvement to keep on rocking in a good trend. But a good matchup, man. These guys are a good team, and we're really looking forward to this matchup.

Well, we'll get into that in a second. But let's talk about your quarterback first, Jayden Daniels. He had a very nice game from week one to week two. You're looking to see some improvement, seven of nine for 91 yards in the final two drives, including a couple of runs. So what's your takeaway from your kid QB becoming a grown man here?

What do you have? Yeah, 100 percent he is. The thing that stays remarkable about him so far rich to me is the word that comes to mind is poise. In those moments, Jayden is really rock solid, man. So tie game going into the last drive and he's got the smile.

Let's go do a cube. And so just confident, poised, ready to go. And so he really puts in the work, which I think gives him a lot of the confidence. And the other players definitely feel that from him as he's going, kind of he's growing, but the team is as well.

We didn't have our best performance at Tampa. And so to see that improve week two, we certainly expect that to keep going. But poise is, I think, one of the words that comes to mind, Rich. Maybe when we had talked earlier, I spoke of his a good blend of confidence and humility. But now that we're in the games, you see a really calm, cool, collected guy that stays razor focused. How much do you talk to him about sliding, getting down? I mean, that moment when he had the wind knocked out of him, where he tries to split two defenders, it's like, oh, I was like watching a horror movie, you know, like through my fingers of my hand.

What do you say to him? I'd say we are a work in progress on that part, Rich. It is a physical league. And so we want to make sure the smart decisions, when to get down, when to get out of bounds. And so just like every game, every other part of his game, there's going to be some extended plays that he'll remain a passer and lets it rip down the field. And that also kind of goes into some of the scrambles.

And so I think we're going to work hard at that. He's been absolutely crushing all the things that we've thrown at him. And this is another one that remaining a passer, as long as you can, knowing there's some big plays out there that you can do that.

And then when he has the chance to use his legs, get the yards, get down and let's keep it moving. Yeah. And again, I've never met him. I've only seen interviews with him and I've only talked to people who know him. He strikes me as someone who should know better.

You know what I mean? Like he knows, right? He does. He does. He does. And I think the things that you love about him are the same things.

Like most things, there's like a blessing and a curse. Like he is a rare competitor. And so let's make sure, uh, don't let the competitor override the decision making in that space because that part of him is absolutely fantastic in terms of the competitor.

So for us, uh, making sure good decisions to go through it and, uh, and he'll improve on that spot for sure. And obviously all young quarterbacks are their own personalities, right? I mean, they all have different, uh, height, weight measurement.

They also have what beats inside and things of that nature. That's different. But that said, a conversation in our league right now is based on a highly drafted quarterback from the SEC, won the Heisman trophy and Bryce young, who has now been sat down by, by the Carolina Panthers and the conversation about growing a quarterback is now front and center again. Are there any hard and fast rules or any sort of through line that you have here about nurturing a young quarterback and not putting too much on the plate, but pulling back saying something, I'm wondering what it's like to be a head coach with this tug of war going on.

Yeah. And it's, uh, my first time going through the whole process, you know, as a, as a head coach, um, you know, even over maybe the last, you know, 10 or 12 years, I was in Seattle with Russell who had been in his second year, uh, Matt and, you know, had been experienced player in DAC. So for me, my first experience going through that and I wanted to make sure, take each step along the way and, uh, don't miss one step of the development. And so I think the biggest, um, you know, lessons that I'm taken out of it, um, you know, as you go back through to say, you know, trust your eyes of what you see and make sure you're featuring in the player, featuring for the player, all the things that make them unique and make them really good. And so we've certainly tried to do that with Jayden, but, uh, I think trust your eyes and make sure, you know, you don't put the player in a spot where, you know, the schemes uncomfortable or the situation is just make sure they have a real readiness for the things they can absolutely go crush. And, uh, I guess one of the real keys so far, that's been my experience. Just wondering, have you asked any of your coach and colleagues who have been through it before for a two cents of advice?

And if so, you're willing to share who you've reached out to? Um, I've definitely, um, you know, talked to coach Carol, you know, through that, you know, going with Russ on an early space. Um, I've certainly had conversation with Mike McDaniel and Adam has done, um, some with his time, um, in San Francisco. So, um, he was very deliberate about pieces around the quarterback as a young player. So, uh, for us to interior part of the offensive line, why we had Zach Hertz, you know, the running game, all the things that go to support a player. I thought, um, Adam just nailed every bit of that rich to say, let's make sure the running game, a tight end, um, you know, the interior part of the offensive line to make sure, you know, the person was protected and in that way. And so those are a few of the things before the player, you know, was even here that we selected. Um, we knew Jayden was the player that we wanted to take, but I thought Adam was very intentional about surrounding, um, pieces around that player to make sure they would be set up for success when that time came, uh, you know, including signing a backup like Marcus Mariota to ensure that we were not going to be forced into something, uh, before a ballplayer was ready. And I thought that was great intentional, uh, mindset by Adam.

And I couldn't agree with him more on that. I love that you mentioned coach Carol, cause I just remember how, you know, Seattle had signed Matt Flynn, right. And, and, and, and drafted Russ and Carol's all, you know, always compete mantra was personified by Russ's Ascension and taking over that, that job. Obviously Jayden Daniels path to the league is different, but are there any similarities?

Do you think between the two of these guys? You know what the similarities were? Um, and I wasn't there on that first lap with Russ on the very first year, but talking to Pete, um, the similarities were that you gave them some benchmarks and they competed to go get it.

You gave them some more and they went after it again. And so that's what I felt from Jayden from starting here, going through the off season program into training camp. And so, um, it was a lot of topics about, you know, why aren't you naming the starter ready? It's like, and we're going to go through the process that we laid out and I have full confidence that he'll get there, but let's go through the whole process. So 10 years from now, when the, another player comes in at another position and why aren't you naming them starter, let's say it's a receiver or, you know, whatever position could be any positions.

If Jayden Daniels went through it to go earn it, you can too. And I just think it's a fair way to go and allows the player to grow and you get to test him to see where he's at. And I think that's important, um, in our league, rich to make sure if you're going into a locker room, a veteran player wants to know, can this guy help us win and earning it, improving it? Um, there's nothing better than that to establish that trust from the locker room. Dan Quinn, head coach of the Washington commanders here on the rich eyes and show taking on the Bengals on Monday night and week three, you mentioned, uh, laps and, uh, being around the first lap, you weren't there for, for Russ. How's this second lap with you and Bobby Wagner going?

Couple. Yeah. Uh, he's just, uh, got a remarkable way about him. Um, may not be like the most unique thing, but like Bobby Wagner's floor is so high. He's so consistent, rich that every part of his game is just rock solid as a linebacker.

He plays square. He's an excellent tack where he's got the ability to communicate. And so his consistent level, um, of what it looks like to be an all pro player has been beneficial for our team, uh, to know this is all the steps that you have to take, uh, to get into that space. And not every player can be a great player, uh, like wags, but you can, you know, consistently raise so many parts of your game, rich, that it allows you to become a much better player. And so by example, um, guys like wags and Zach Ertz have established what great habits look like from a ball player. And, uh, man, I love what they bring to our team, but wags and specifically, um, I've just admired him for so long.

And so to get a chance to coach him again, it's been one of the highlights for me so far. And obviously with Cincinnati being in front of you next and Joe burrow being one of the best, and you might see T Higgins, you may, you know, you may see him and they just came off of a near miss in, in Kansas city. Obviously, defensively, you're going to have your hands full Monday. Where do you, where do you see your defense just two weeks, two games into your tenure coach? Yeah, I think, um, what we're looking for first off, uh, is real play speed, rich to make sure that the attitude and the style is right, and the guys will continue to improve, but that is always a number one top of the pile, the effort, the relentless nature that you have to play with to play excellent defense. So the things I'd love to see us improve on our tackling and our third down, we're not anywhere near the mark that we're going to be yet at that, but, uh, to play well at Cincinnati, those are going to be two things that we're going to have to improve upon our tackling and playing better on third down. So, uh, uh, to give ourselves an excellent chance to go play our best. So, yeah, I guess it's a, it's a battle of the LSU quarterbacks, right? Coming up on Monday night, I'm coming up with my, my, my storylines.

Thank you for helping me with my homework here. So, but what, what, what do you see on, on tape when you, when you take an on borrow, like what's your concern here, coach? Yeah, I think, um, one, uh, man is the accuracy, rich that you see, um, he can put the ball in the right location against the right coverage at the right time. So that for me is always one, you know, from a quarterback standpoint, he can process so quickly. And then the other thing that I, uh, really respect about Joe, uh, this guy is tough as nails and, uh, absolutely a rare competitor in our league, um, gets hit, stays in there, delivers the ball, uh, knowing that, you know, a hit's about to come down. So the ones that consistently do that over and over again, man, you got to tip your hat to him.

And, uh, Joe was certainly that player. Okay, coach, I appreciate the time here before I let you go. How do you see the dynamic kickoff here playing off? I mean, we're seeing a few more of these kicks returned, but, uh, I'm just seeing a ton just booted in the end zone, certainly when the game's on the line, right? Yeah, that seems to be the case right now.

There's, I would say that's inconclusive so far. Um, we thought we had a really good opt to start off our game actually rich. We returned one and got called back on a foul, right?

And so you do get to the next level. Uh, you got a chance for a big play, but when that hole closes, it closes quickly. And, uh, I still think there's more to grow and more to learn and probably be next time we talk, uh, weeks from now, another conversation now that we've got outside the numbers, does it hit the ground on the kickoffs? But, uh, by and large, there's not a big difference so far, uh, just within two weeks of a kick that, you know, was kicked into the end zone for a touch back and the returns, there's not a big difference in those two at this time. But I think as we go more players will evolve, you know, what kind of returners are there and, uh, the style of kicks that the kickers are going to start working, I think will come into effect as well. When you signed your kicker last week to in week on Tuesday, did you think you'd be giving him a game ball five days later, Dan?

Hell no. And I was, uh, you know, wanting to make sure, you know, that we were just constantly supporting him, uh, fantastic snapper and holder that works with him and Tyler out and trust way. And so, uh, gave himself a great chance to come in to do well.

And, uh, we're really pumped man. He came through in the biggest of ways, uh, including a game winner. So, uh, remarkable, uh, first game as a commander. Is that your first game coaching or ever with seven field goals? Is that the first for you? Absolutely.

Yes. And, uh, it was actually a franchise record was six, but, uh, we joked Austin, maybe just want to put a little distance between himself and somebody else. So he nailed seven. So yeah, I can't remember a game, uh, with seven. And so it like a division game, man, you expected it to be closed. I certainly thought that going into the, into the game, uh, and finding a way to win with seven was a big deal. Uh, we got lots of things to clean up, uh, you know, going into Cincinnati.

Um, I think that would be, uh, very tough to, uh, think you, you can sustain that, that kind of, uh, production. Um, we gotta get some, some scores in the red zone and, uh, we'll work hard at that, but yeah, really cool start for Austin. That said you're in the standings. You look to your left, that's the equally one-on-one Eagles.

You look to your right. That's the equally one-on-one Cowboys, right? Two weeks in, you got a piece of first, here we go. We're marathon. We go and sprinting, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Just why not? Yeah.

400 meters. Just go for it. Right. Honestly, we're just thinking about this game this week, man. There's so much ball to play, but like having a division game as your first home game, you know, with a new club, rich, that was cool, man.

So to have, you know, Washington, New York play in our first game, the history of these two teams and battling for it, man, it was, it was really cool. Even if you're disappointing the kid who once went to practice to watch Parcells and his Giants, right? Like, even though you, you, you crushed your childhood self, Dan. Yeah, I will do that every time I'm allowed to. Coach, really appreciate the time, as always. Good luck on Monday night and again, look for more of my calls. I appreciate our chats. Enjoy it. Thanks. Yeah. Likewise, Rich.

Good afternoon. You got it. That is the head coach, the Washington commanders getting set to take on the Bengals on Monday night, right here on many of these Westwood One stations. And that's the commander that ate the canary right there. I mean, he beats the Giants. The Cowboys get smoked by the Saints and the new defensive coordinator, they're replacing him.

We'll throw the week one where Mike Zimmer's defense looked lights out, out the window, right? And then the Eagles lose. And you know, Eagles lose, you know, you know, gutting fashion. Gutting. Heartbreaking. And Cowboys lose in a blowout fashion, right?

So who had an easier broccoli? See, now that's it. This is like the annual, this is the annual, like, would you rather be just destroyed and have no chance and just be left for dead. And it's totally disheartening rather than having the gutting loss or whatever. I know the way you guys go about it.

There's one individual who would clearly have the gutting loss than being blown out. And it's somebody I played golf with yesterday. And had, after we finished up the 18, wanted to record a message for TJ Jefferson.

Hey, TJ, I'm golfing here with Rich and I told him that we both had a bad week, but damn, your week was way worse than ours. Damn. Karl Anthony Towns. This guy. I love it. This guy took an L. That's so good.

I love him even more than you. What's that tell you about somebody? You take an L, but you like, you feel joy because someone else took an L. I mean, I don't mind that. That's actually petty, but you know. All right.

All right. Karl Anthony Towns. Wanted to send a message. Disrespectful. To TJ Jefferson.

Rich, great picture. I sent him a picture. We played great cat golf. Wow.

Karl Anthony Towns. What's cat's game like? I knew you would ask that question. Show that picture, the last picture here. Look at that setup.

Yeah, I heard you tell him. Look where the stick is right there. It's just, it's perfect. It's amazing to watch a seven footer play golf, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hits it high. There's a high ball flight. I mean, he's got to be like plus two, plus three on the clubs. Like extenders because he's so tall. He's really good at it. He can hit it far. Big guys usually hit it far. He can hit it far. But look at that set.

Look at that. That's a great swing right there. I like golf. I heard you tell Susie when you were leaving yesterday you were going to go play golf. Right. I didn't expect it was going to be with Karl Anthony Towns. I like golf.

I could have gone and driven the cart. Oh, you're talking about why they didn't get invited. That's what they're. I thought we were friends.

I just like the cars. Oh, we are. We are friends.

Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

Yeah. Just two of my poker guys. I invited those guys.

I could be a cat. Another time. Oh, yeah, sure.

Maybe another time. Yeah, because you get to go golfing with NBA, you know, All Stars all the time. You know what? That's right.

I got my own game with Anthony Edwards. Is that what it is? You and the Ant Man? Yeah. Can we see that video one more time? You don't need to see that video.

No, it's really good. By the way, as advertised, sweetest guy on the planet. We basically kicked him out when he was here. Hold on a minute. Here we go. Rock it.

Rack it one more time. Hey, TJ. Listen, I'm golfing here with Rich, and I told him that we both had a bad week.

But damn, your week was way worse than ours. Dang it. And then you're just like... I had no idea what he was going to say. By the way, he also, when it was time to... He's done this before. He pushed the button for 4K and the HD and all that.

Oh, wow. He knows what he's doing. He got it ready. He got it ready. I had no idea what he was going to say, and I'm thinking, I'll hold the phone, but I'm not going to be part of it.

And then when he said what he said, I'm like, all right, I got it. At least you're on his mind. Good. Yeah, they're thinking about you, man. It's good. It's good.

It's like a health check. You don't want to be not. At least, Chris, early in the third quarter, I was able to accept my fate. It's like, all right, this is not our game. Oh, he's going in this way.

Early third quarter. How come we can approve? You're able to cauterize the wound. We're on the board. I had to make some notes. But with him, you thought you had to get exactly how you want to handle your business. You want to get totally blown out by the Saints at home after you've done what you've done with the Browns.

Exactly. So you could feel better about yourself. You should have one. You should have won the game. Run the ball. You want to start the healing process as soon as possible. Yeah, exactly. I understand. I understand. Exactly. Get out of here. Yep.

There's no way. All right, let's take a break. This is going to come on out much for I lose the way to Eagles. Arch Manning starting. What does that mean? Oh, yeah.

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And this is the time of year where I'm like stuck on East Coast time. I don't sleep very well. And I'm like, in the ride here, I'm like, did I see somewhere where somebody on social media was talking about like Del Tufo has this amazing smile. I was like, did I imagine that? Like something, like where did that come from? Well, I mean, he is the king of the toothy selfie.

The toothy selfie. You know, he's in the convertible, though. Top down. Top down.

Top down. To borrow a line from Jiminy Glick, believe it or not, he's like a grandmother's email. All caps.

OK. He's all caps. He's all caps. Brady Hoke was all caps. Text her. Oh, I know Brady Hoke was an all cap. I got I got a few of those, too.

And all caps text her. But I think that's what it's from. It's his brand. It's my brand.

It's his brand. It's disarming. Did you see? That's a new drop. It's disarming saying it's disarming. Boy, that was a right cross. I didn't see coming. Like, you just hit me with that one. That is true.

It is disarming. That's a great way to put it. Did you see this? Do you know where it's from?

Because you see all the comments about you. Who told you had a great smile? Someone in India, because that's Rose Constance did. Well, I think it's one of the best people I've ever met. I agree. Constance Schwartz Marie was here yesterday.

And you get and it's like it's like she was like, great smile. I know. OK, I know. OK, great.

I must have saw it like on Instagram or something. I think you did. You did. You did. OK. Can confirm Bruce Feldman. That's a real thing.

And I didn't like conjure it in my head. Then we'd have issues on the Rich Eisen Show radio network sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grange with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call Click Ranger Dotcom or just stop by as Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and the Athletic is doing here. Let's just jump into it, man. Arch Manning mania is real. And just to see the way that he I listen, I don't think anybody was watching a lot of Isidore Newman tape, you know, that said, seeing him do his thing in place of an injured Quinn Ewers and this thing includes him running away from people like Trevor Lawrence. I don't think people saw that one coming.

So how how real is Arch Manning starting at quarterback for the Texas Longhorns right now? Well, I think it's expected this weekend because you were still injured or still not 100 percent. Look, I feel like we talked about this kind of scenario. About a month ago. Well, even way before that, like I remember the day after or maybe a couple days after Ewers announced he was coming back, I remember you asked like, well, what does he do now? And I was like, you know, and it was all off the cuff. I wasn't I hadn't really thought it through before that. And I just remember thinking, though, well, you went to Texas for a reason because you really believe in Sark, who's brilliant as a quarterback guy and play caller and you believe in the system and around there. And obviously you want to be there. And also the reality was Quinn Ewers has gotten hurt in the previous two years and missed a couple of games.

And so it worked. Turned out that, you know, and nobody wants and Quinn Ewers looked terrific against Michigan and has looked. But so, you know, he gets banged up and in comes, you know, first play touchdown pass, like a couple of plays later on offense, he breaks off like a 70 yard run where he's hitting almost 21 miles per hour. The thing I will say, because I got a chance to spend some time with some of the Texas offensive coaches in Ann Arbor a couple of weeks ago, they really rave about Arch in a lot of ways. Now, he's physically become a lot more developed since he's been at UT. He could always run. He's super smart.

They love his demeanor and temperament. And I think the things I'd heard was, you know, he's really come on as a passer and just continue to develop. I mean, it's a great situation Texas has where you have a high level starter who's played a lot of football and you have a younger backup who's not only extremely talented, but has like a lot of intangibles, but also, you know, the support system around him is like, yeah, you don't need to go someplace else just to get on the field right now.

Just be patient, keep developing. And it's a, again, it's a great problem for Texas to have because it's really not a problem. I mean, they play ULM, Louisiana Monroe this weekend, who's 2-0, but shouldn't be able to hang with with Texas. And we'll see what Arch does this week. I mean, I would expect him, you know, he has been as advertised, right? Like the hype around him, he was a five-star guy. And sometimes you wonder if his name was not Arch Manning, but if it was like Mike Davis, would he have been a five-star guy at that high school, you know, playing at, I think there's still a two-way program in Louisiana. But he has a lot of ability and everybody who's been around him can't say enough good things about him.

So I'm interested to see not just this weekend, but how he continues to keep playing. I don't see it's such a situation where like he keeps making these amazing plays and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, Sarc's like, now yours is healthy. I got to play two, or I got to manage it.

Well, it's not two or managing it. It's Brady Bledsoe type stuff. You know what I mean? Like that's the conversation to be had here. And so the first question is, before we even endeavor that, which we will, heads up, you've already gotten it, is what is yours is status? What do we know? I mean, injury news, I don't need to tell you coming out of college programs like Fort Knox.

Yeah. I mean, my hunch on this is going to be a couple of weeks. You don't need to rush them back for ULM. I think this is not an injury where you want where you want, it's an abdominal injury where you want to really force him out there. He doesn't need to be out there right now.

Maybe in a couple of weeks, it may be a different story. Mississippi State after that. Mississippi State just got hammered by Toledo.

Arch will be fine in that. And then they're coming off of a buy, it looks like. And then it's the big one with Oklahoma, right? Yeah. I mean, so that's what, three weeks from now? Yeah. That's plenty of time for him, you know, hopefully to heal. And you go back to him? Yeah, you would think.

Yes. I mean, he's played a lot of big games. I think it's great to know, though, like you have Arch and Arch is going to keep developing and get live game reps. And also, by the way, the receivers are still new. They're really talented. But, you know, you had the two guys who went high in the draft last year, like the timing and all the stuff that goes on. Now, there's a couple of these guys are really young receivers. A couple of them, you know, Silas Bolden and Isaiah Bond had played really well at other programs and come in, but it's just the timing and everything. And I think that's good for them to keep developing.

And it's a great situation. I would be surprised if it got to the point where Ewers comes back. He doesn't look, you know, they're going to play some really good opponents beyond Oklahoma after that. Yeah, he comes back. It's Oklahoma, then it's Georgia.

That's the one, right? So, you know, Georgia is still loaded. I know they struggled with Kentucky last week, but like if that's a game, it's tight. You know, this is the putting the cart before the horse to say it, but like it's you're down 10 points.

Does I mean, who knows? That's the meat, man, because after that, Vanderbilt, Florida, which is just having a disastrous campaign so far, Arkansas, Kentucky, which just put the scare in Georgia and then their final game is at Texas A&M. So, I mean, it's the Georgia game. I don't want to diminish Oklahoma. It's a great rivalry game.

You must throw the records out. You have to. You don't have to this year unless they, you know, get smashed at Tennessee by Tennessee this week.

Right. Could happen. But again, I think because Mississippi State, you know, Mississippi State is not, you know, they lost Arizona State. They got absolutely, you know, pummeled by Toledo. The probably game shouldn't even have been as close as it was.

And it was a 24 point, you know, different. So again, I think I think Texas is in a in a really good situation. I agree with you is that that yours is hurt enough where you give them the three weeks with two games that you should be able to win with your backup, let alone Arch Manning.

And then you've got a bye week and then Oklahoma and Georgia. You probably want to have the the guy who looked like the Heisman Trophy, a Heisman Trophy candidate before he got hurt. Who has played a ton of football and actually played well on the road. He is, you know, to his credit. And I think because we talk a lot about Arch, I think to yours credit, he has developed really nicely there. I mean, I think he is, you know, he's got good arm talent. I think he showed some really good mobility against against a Michigan defense that looked honestly kind of lost.

And again, credit to Texas for for doing that. And I think it's, you know, if you ask me who has the best quarterback situation in college football right now, it's Sarks. It really is. I agree. Bruce Feldman here on the Rich Ozzie show game of the week is what in your estimation?

What do you got for me? In my eyes, the most intriguing game actually involves your alma mater. They're going to host USC. And if you had asked people a month ago, you know, all right, we're thinking USC is going to be lucky to be a seven win team. Michigan's coming off the national title. And I'm thinking still because they had to replace so many guys, I thought they were like an eight and four team.

I still thought it's here's where I'm different on this that I've changed in the last couple of weeks. USC, yes, their defense has looked markedly better. That's a credit to Danton Lynn, the new defensive coordinator. But I didn't think USC's offensive line was very good. And I thought Michigan's defense should be outstanding still.

And I thought their D line would be really scary. You know, Wink Martindale, unlike a lot of the other, there's been a bunch of defensive coordinators in college who came from the NFL, whether they were coordinators in the NFL or position coaches, and they really did a terrific job. Two of those guys that I would reference both were in Ann Arbor.

First Mike McDonald, then Jesse Minner. Danton Lynn, another guy who was with the Ravens. Chip Kelly hires him, first time DC does great last year for UCLA. Al Golden, now he's been in college for a while, but he was with the Bengals and then came from the Bengals. He's been really good for Notre Dame. Even the guy Dion hired in Boulder right now, Robert Livingston, spent a dozen years with the Bengals.

He was a safety coach. I think he's done a really nice job there because they were awful on defense before and they've actually played pretty well and they've made improvements. Wink is the one who's probably the most seasoned of the NFL guys. And there was just a lot of stuff that looked really unsound, especially they were like, look like they were step off against, certainly against Texas. And they have experience and they have players on that side of the ball. To me, it's different than their issues on offense and the matchup of Wink trying to contain Lincoln Riley. If I was a Michigan fan, I would be not comfortable with that because Michigan's offense is not great. So it's not like you feel like they're going to be getting 28 points. Well, certainly if it's a similar situation of Wink trying to contain Sarc's team, right?

And that's why I'll be straight up, man. I'm concerned about what happens when Chip Kelly is going to be courted in the offense. I think they're going to smash Michigan because they're way more loaded than USC has a very good quarterback. He's not mobile like Caleb, but he's good. He's accurate.

He's really smart. They have a bunch of big time receivers. I don't think their offensive line is outstanding.

Right now I think it's best to say it's okay. The running backs are not what Ohio State has. They're not typically what USC has, but they're good enough.

I just think Lincoln is a terrific schemer and good at drawing stuff up and exploiting things. And again, they have a really good quarterback, really smart quarterback, and really like four or five big time receivers. And unless Michigan just absolutely terrorizes Miller-Moss and gets four or five sacks and I don't see Michigan... Again, I think they have a better chance to beat them than they did Texas because Texas has way more firepower and Texas has a much better offensive line than USC. But I could see why USC is the favorite. Well, and I know you mentioned it. You're talking about the defense as opposed to Michigan's offense. It would be helpful if you got a blitz happy guy like Wink, right? Who's looking at 18 year olds who were in high school last year and saying, how do you like cover zero kid?

And you're on an island. And it would be helpful if Michigan's run game was similar to last year's. It has not been. The offensive line is not even close.

Correct. And it would be helpful if they play turnover free football like last year and they have not. And part of the issue is walk on quarterback with a great story, beat out the kid that a lot of we Wolverine fans thought was going to start, Alex Orji, who's starting this week. He's going to get that gig.

What do you think? Are they going to bust into Schembechler Hall and break some glass and take what Benny Oosterbahn's playbook from 19 whatever and run the ball, run a triple option or something like that? What are they going to do? I'm interested to see it because they feel really one dimensional like Mullings actually has been the bigger threat for them right now. I keep wondering, Donovan Edwards, we've talked about this, I feel like a couple of weeks ago, he had a great game against Ohio State when they needed him most on the road two years ago, was really good in the national title game. But there's times where you're like, what's going on here? I wouldn't be surprised.

Who knows? He may be the guy two years from now who's on an NFL roster and has some big games. But it's like, you desperately need a playmaker. Colson Lovell was banged up. They're not very good at receiver. Their offensive line is not what it was, which was great before.

And now it's probably just good. I just feel like they're margin for error now on offense. And look, credit to JJ. I feel like there was times where people would say, oh yeah, he threw it 32 times in a row. Yeah, but JJ could make plays when they needed it to.

He was accurate on the run. He didn't get the credit he deserved. And I don't think JJ is griping about it or anything like that. But I just think there was a lot of stuff that people, including us in the media, took for granted about Michigan, because they didn't need to do things the other way. Right now, it feels like they can only do things one way. And I don't know. I feel like it's hard for them to get more than 17 points.

They feel all of a sudden a lot like Iowa on offense. My goodness gracious. That's a perfect way to take a break because I need to recover from that. When we come back, you wrote an interesting story about Tennessee and what they're doing with a 10% surcharge on their tickets, right? What are you talking about? Yeah, this is the talent fee that's been added. As a talent fee has been added to Tennessee tickets. I want to talk about that.

And I also want to get your two cents on what's happening with Bryce Young, who 18 starts ago is the number one overall Pick Heisman Trophy winner out of Alabama. Now, not so much. Bruce Feldman here from Fox Sports and The Athletic right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Let's talk about game time tickets, people.

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The head coach Charles Huff. You heard this soundbite clearly, right? Check it out. This is great. What a soundbite this is from the Marshall head coach.

This is A++. I feel good about the track we're on. Trust me. I know where we are, but I feel good about the track we're on. And I feel good about the players we have. I would love to have some of those guys from Ohio State too. So if they want to transfer on down, we've got a Tudor Biscuit NIL all you can eat. So if any of those guys that run really, really fast at Ohio State like Tudor's Biscuits, I promise you all you can eat all day if you transfer here.

So, but yeah. That sounds fantastic. I've been to a Tudor's in West Virginia. I went with, do you know Andy Staples? I went with him once to this. And he had two of these things, which were the size of like a catcher's mitt. And he goes, I'm thinking about getting another one.

I was like, if you do Andy, they ought to serve it to you in the bathroom right there because you're just not going to hold up. This thing is enormous. Huff's super smart. I'm glad to see people are kind of seeing him. He had been a running back coach at Alabama and Penn State. And yeah, it's tough to be a group of five head coach right now because a couple of his best players now are at Miami.

He's got a defensive end at Miami and a DB at Miami. So good luck this weekend. These biscuits look incredible. I'm on them. You're on the biscuit front. Can we order them? All that and a biscuit. That's what he's basically saying.

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We have Bruce Feldman still here with us from Fox Sports and the Athletic. What is going on with the Tennessee tickets? You were telling me about this. You wrote an article about this.

I did. Yeah, I wrote a column yesterday. The AD there, Danny White, credit to him that he has become transparent with this and just said, hey, we have all of this money that we're going to be on the hook for as college athletic departments through this settlement, which could be $30 million in terms of, you know, for revenue sharing and everything else that's coming down the pipe. A settlement in a court case in which players are going to have to be compensated? Across.

Yes, thank you. And so if it's upwards of $30 million per school. Yeah.

I mean, so how do you get to that point? Well, now, all of a sudden, this would be about a third, I think, on their projections. Now, why I think it's smart is Tennessee's timing on it is very shrewd.

If you look at it this way. What are they doing? What are they doing? So they are increasing season tickets for basically about 10%. And that could bring in up to $10 million across the board. So all Tennessee season ticket holders for next year are going to see a 10% increase. For a talent fee. That's what it's called.

That's what he referenced it when we talked yesterday. A talent fee. And so now whether it goes to, because I asked him about a distinction, because on the front end of NIL, when they were seven and six, their collective, Spire Sports, did a deal with a high school quarterback from here in Southern California, Nico Imeleava, who was a big recruit, but unproven. He wasn't a college player. And the deal was $8 million approximately. That is a huge bet that they made on him. Now, after that, they have this great year where they finished sixth in the country, 11-2.

Hendon Hooker's the star quarterback. And from that point on, the Vols have been rolling. And remember, before that time, it had been about 15 years of futility and embarrassment. From the end of Phil Fulmer, to Lane Kiffin being there and not being there, to Derek Dooley, who was like one debacle after another, to Butch Jones, and then even Jeremy Pruitt and all that. So they got it rolling. The fan base, who's incredibly passionate and loyal, now they're engaged. They've won their first three games by like a combined score of like a 190 to 13. And the quarterback who they spent, they're spending $8 million for, he was the MVP of the bowl game last year in his first real start, and he's looked good so far. So that looks like a good bet. This looks like a very smart bet.

I don't think there's that many schools who can make this ask, because as the AD told me yesterday, they have a wait list for season tickets for 15,000 people. I know that. It's just, again, like, what are we doing?

It's a big business. I know I understand that, but why can't we all get together? Why can't there be a system where we understand where this ruling comes in? Now let's all, as smart people in various conferences that have similar issues, get together and come up with a way to run it that schools aren't like standing on the sports street corner asking people who are driving by to roll down their windows. You know what I mean? Like, to be very honest here, like, this is the way we're going to, that's how we're going to tackle the problem, is ask the diehard fans for 10% more, because we can't figure out the rest, because a whole bunch of people can't get in a room to figure out how to work NIL and Portal and paying the players and scheduling and figure it all out as smart educators and administrators in the world.

Really? We can't do that? The smart educators and administrators have had the NCA for a long time. There's been a lot of flawed stuff with that.

I know, so let's figure out a different way. Let's not give them too much credit on that on that front, but so if you're like, the NIL piece of this, and because I asked him specifically about, is there a distinction, do you make any distinction between the revenue sharing and all the stuff that is coming down the pipe versus the NIL challenges of now? Because what you hear a lot is, a lot of schools only have a handful of big boosters, and that's not a sustainable model. And so you're seeing, and I don't want to say Tennessee's payroll is now 20 million dollars for the roster, but it is a big difference between some of these schools of what they're paying within conferences, not to say like Michigan versus Fresno State. And I think that's the part where it's like, if you tell fans, and I give, I think this is a smart thing on a lot of levels by Tennessee, one of the things what they did was by telling fans up front, hey, this is what it's for, I think the rationale is going to be for a lot of fans, hey, I want us to beat Alabama and to do this, if that means I'm paying a little more for us to beat them, to make it happen, I'm on board with that. If you're just saying, oh, we're raising, if you don't tell them what the increase is for, then I think people are like, oh, it's just another thing that somebody's tapping into my wallet. I think when you're specific, and then certain fans are going to sit there and go, okay, well, I had a role in helping this team, the team I love more than anything, then I feel like they're going to be engaged. Now, if they go six and six, they're going to be ticked off. But that's the nature of sports where if teams aren't, look, I'm sure you'll feel differently about your coaching staff if they're winning a national title versus if they plummet to six and six.

I hear you. In the less than three minutes I have left, you covered Bryce Young, we were talking about him when he was first overall, everybody thought he was going to be first overall, and he was. What do you think of when you heard the news that the Panthers benched him just two games in this year?

It's not shocking, because it seems like it's been going so poorly. I will say this, because I've gotten a bunch of these wrong, I did think CJ Stroud was the safer pick of the two. He's bigger, he was incredibly accurate, and I didn't think CJ would be as great as he is so fast. How about is Bryce Young as bad as he's looked so fast also? Yeah, but who's Bryce's go-to guy, Adam Thielen? Adam Thielen is like 35, I'm guessing, 36, I don't know, he's in his mid-30s, he's been around for a long time, and then who else, right? And except for Cam, who's been good at a quarterback for the Panthers? I know Cam was there for a long time, but do we have to go back to Jake Delone?

I don't know. I know there's been a bunch of quarterbacks who've gone there. But is there any signs of the way he left Alabama, or when he was at Alabama, or getting ready for the draft? Like in Alabama, you're on the top end of the talent, he's operating the plane, I think he's very smart, I think he sees the game really well.

I mean, he's really small, but I think that's the concern is durability, not the actual performance part. But I think you see a guy who has gone from having, even when he didn't have what Tua had in terms of like, they had mind-bogglingly good receivers, but he still had Jamison Williams. I mean, Jamison Williams is like, can fly, and John Mechie was a really good college receiver. I know he's been, had some issues in the NFL health-wise, but those were two high-level players that he had, and you had, I think he had Jameer Gibbs for a year. Like, you're in Alabama, you have a really good offensive line.

I just think when you go to the bottom of the deck, I think it's just way harder, and you can get exposed if everything's just not right. And I think that's why it's so hard to project who's going to be really good in the NFL at quarterback, and who's not. Like the guy I thought was, the closest thing I've seen in a while to can't miss was Joe Burrow, just because I was like, Joe Burrow is so smart and such a coach. He's accurate, he's athletic. He was kind of checking every box, but after that, I feel like, man, it's like, you're just kind of throwing a dart at the wall.

Yeah, I know. Bruce Feldman here, everybody. We've got David Sampson coming up, hour number three. It's just still stunning, because everything I heard is Bryce Young was prepared, and he was always in the playbook, and he was done with Saturday, and he was already on a Sunday, and had a professional mentality like that, and then he doesn't throw at the combine like, I'm definitely the first overall pick, and it certainly hasn't helped that CJ Stroud hasn't just succeeded. He has exceeded expectations.

He has crushed them. He is a top five quarterback in the league right now. You're throwing him in with Burrow.

You're throwing him in with Mahomes, Josh Allen, for real. Ask your guy, Bucky Brooks, about him. Bucky was the first one on the bandwagon for him. Saw him when he was a high school junior, and coached him. He's unbelievable.

Yeah, and all the stuff that he was raving about, and you could see it. He was great against Georgia. That's the performance that mattered the most. If they made the field goal, they're most likely national champions, for real. Oh, I know.

I agree. I saw what happened. That final drive that he put Ohio State up, spectacular. And then the combine, honestly, I've never seen somebody spin it like that.

I turned to Daniel Jeremiah. He threw touch passes like the one that he threw to Diggs on Sunday night, and then darts like the one he threw to Collins. Deep balls. He's doing absolutely everything. He actually, one of the defensive coaches I lean on a lot for different stuff, saw him, also saw a bunch of other top quarterbacks, including Caleb.

And it was almost like CJ was so accurate downfield to the point where it almost diminished the other guys that, who are still really good quarterbacks, really like they're not CJ. Thanks again, brother. You're the man.

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